[e-gold-list] Acct error

2001-02-05 Thread B Ray

Would the owner of e-gold acct # 120895 listed as earvelo egold acct please contact me 
privately regarding an error relating to your acct.
Thank you
Boyd Pate acct 109406
   http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?109406texas451%40yahoo.com
   http://www.two-cents-worth.com/?120895SRtexas451%40yahoo.com


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[e-gold-list] RE: Visa Card

2001-01-01 Thread B Ray

--Original Message--
From: "Michael Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: January 1, 2001 12:14:14 PM GMT
Subject: [e-gold-list] Visa Card


Some information about the Free Visa Card is in order.

I am somewhat puzzled by the promotion of a CC by some who are stauch supporters of 
e-gold, an asset back by a real commodity as a means of exchange.  Is not, as stated 
in an earlier post a credit card just another way of creating money out of thin air by 
using the debt concept?  How will we win the war if we detour off our objective by  
promoting something that has and does cause so much grief to MM and others?
Boyd Pate
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[e-gold-list] Re: More Questions

2000-12-31 Thread B Ray

--Original Message--
From: "Michael Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: December 31, 2000 7:43:07 AM GMT
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: More Questions


sheaves of blockquotes and  irritating
hieroglyphic html code


I would like to know what they mean
Boyd Pate
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[e-gold-list] Possible scam?

2000-12-31 Thread B Ray

I received this post website address from a list that I subscribe to. 
http://big5.to/64U  

Following is the information that was on it.  Now if this is not the classic ponzi 
scheme then I don't know what is.  

I did some quick math(and I may be wrong)but if you multiply $10 x the 15625 you must 
get you get $156,250 minus the $19530 leaves the promoter with $136,720.  Not bad huh 
How many with go for this and then complain wonder what happened.  As you can see they 
are using the e-gold system for the payments.  Anyone know anything about this deal?
Regards
B Pate

Following SIX4YOU, System will push you going through the all SIX levels automatically 
and then make at least $19,530 for you.

What you should do is to pay $10 to join the System and introduce 5 people to SIX4YOU.

How SIX4YOU works? Well, There are six levels in the System. Each participant needs to 
introduce 5 people to the system. When you introduce at least 5 people to the system, 
we will pay you $5. This is the first level. Once you finish the first level, what you 
need to do is just let the system make at least $19,525 for you. The 5 people you 
sponsor will also introduce 5 people to this system, this is the second level, and 
will reach least 5¥5=25 people. When there are at least 25 people in your second 
level, we will pay you $25. Then when your Third level reach to 5¥5¥5=125 people, we 
will pay you $125. When your Forth level reach to 5¥5¥5¥5=625 people, we will pay you 
$625. When your Fifth level reach to 5¥5¥5¥5¥5=3125 people, we will pay you $3125. 
When your Sixth level reach to 5¥5¥5¥5¥5¥5=15,625 people, we will pay you $15,625. So, 
How much will you be paid?

*   When 1st level reaches to 5 people, you will get $5.
*   When 2nd level reaches to 25 people, you will get $25.
*   When 3rd level reaches to 125 people, you will get $125.
*   When 4th level reaches to 625 people, you will get $625.
*   When 5th level reaches to 3125 people, you will get $3125.
*   When 6th level reaches to 15,625 people, you will get $15,625.
*   So, the total you make amounts to 5+25+125+625+3125+15,625= $19,530, and you 
invested just $10.
*   If you introduce more than 5 people or there are more than the least number of 
people in each level, you will get more than the money show in above list. Each 
additional people equal to $1.

You can see your downline state in the following site.
64U Viewer
When you finish all of 6 levels, you can join once again. There is no limit for how 
many times you join SIX4YOU. You can also rejoin SIX4YOU when you are not finish the 
System, but you must pay $10 for each sign-up.
Ask our staff if you have any question

How do you get your payments? All payments transact with e-gold. If you have no e-gold 
account, go to the following site to get one. It’s free for sign up.

Get an e-gold account

You also need to pay $10 by e-gold to join SIX4YOU, so you must fund you e-gold 
account if there is no money in your account.

How can you fund your e-gold account? There are two ways!

1.The first and most cost effective way is to receive payment in e-gold from another 
account holder. It takes only a few seconds for transactions to clear and settle this 
way. 

2. The second way is to exchange your national currency for e-gold using the services 
of an independent exchange market maker.
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[e-gold-list] RE: Standard Reserve

2000-12-30 Thread B Ray

Could not agree with you more.
Does anyone think that some sort of escrow sytem similar to ebay might help solve some 
of the problem with the dishonest buyers and sellers on the egold system?
Boyd Pate 

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Sent: December 30, 2000 4:40:14 PM GMT
Subject: [e-gold-list] Standard Reserve


Anyone else sick to death of Standard Reserve's posts here?

Andthree cheers for Destiny Worldwide's philosophy!


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[e-gold-list] Re: The offer still stands (sincerely!)

2000-12-30 Thread B Ray

--Original Message--
From: Dale Pond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: December 30, 2000 8:07:58 PM GMT
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: 
Hi Eric,

This discussion is very positive bringing out a lot of hithertofore unknown
details at least to me. Seems the market makers, by accepting checks and credit
cards, are open to fraud and scammers by the very nature of checks and credit
cards. Why accept them at all? I admit this allows for quicker growth of the
number of gold accounts and convenience for customers but such a practice opens
up to "low life" types.

Why not accept only bank wire and Western Union transfers? These are all paid for 
before remitting so we are back to an asset based and verified currency.

Excellent idea

This one tactic would eliminate a broad array of risk.  I realize some would like to 
eliminate banks and the FED
involvement as soon as possible. I agree. 

The ones who don't want to involve banks, just use the WU option
Boyd Pate
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[e-gold-list] Re: The offer still stands (sincerely!)

2000-12-30 Thread B Ray

--Original Message--
From: Dale Pond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: December 30, 2000 8:07:58 PM GMT
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: 
Hi Eric,

This discussion is very positive bringing out a lot of hithertofore unknown
details at least to me. Seems the market makers, by accepting checks and credit
cards, are open to fraud and scammers by the very nature of checks and credit
cards. Why accept them at all? I admit this allows for quicker growth of the
number of gold accounts and convenience for customers but such a practice opens
up to "low life" types.

Why not accept only bank wire and Western Union transfers? These are all paid for 
before remitting so we are back to an asset based and verified currency.

Excellent idea

This one tactic would eliminate a broad array of risk.  I realize some would like to 
eliminate banks and the FED
involvement as soon as possible. I agree. 

The ones who don't want to involve banks, just use the WU option
Boyd Pate
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[e-gold-list] Re: SR Identity

2000-12-30 Thread B Ray

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Sent: December 31, 2000 1:59:06 AM GMT
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: SR  Identity


At 8:48 PM -0500 12/30/00, B Ray wrote:
http://www.yoursolutions.net/goldrush/

I musyt say that's a good, SIMPLE, sensible looking xchange provider

(I have absolutely no idea who's running it, if it's a crooked one, 
or whatever!  :) )

All I can tell you is that the 2 transaction I did with James Shupperd were clean, 
quick, and with no BS and completed within half an hour at most.  I believe there have 
been others who have dealt with him who post the fact that they were very pleased also.
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[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold / SR ??

2000-12-28 Thread B Ray

Is it just me or does anyone else get more confused as SR tries to answer what I 
thought was a fairly simple question? The response given below to the question gets 
more complex and confusing each time Mr Jenkins tries to answer it.  Why does it take 
a book to do this?

Also the whole operation is based in the US and according to a previous post, there 
are a number of people with very close connections to the government involved with SR. 
 You are asked to give quite a bit of personal information in order to open an acct 
including a SS# all this makes me very suspicious and starts my mind asking lots of 
questions.
B Pate

--Original Message--
From: "Elwyn Jenkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: December 28, 2000 1:05:22 PM GMT
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: e-gold / SR ??


Sidd,

In an ongoing discussion on this site you posed the following:

 If this is true, then how does the statement earlier by EJ, "there is
 not always the necessity to back Standard Gold 100% with E-Gold" fit
 into the picture?
 Hope someone can help me out on this one.

Here is an answer but the more definitive answer will take more than the
room we have here. In fact, I am writing a book which in the near future
will casr much more light on the subject, and on the Gold Economy site I
am planning and already writing some new articles to provide more answers
in this arena.

But a short answer to these questions is provided here.

Currencies
==
The two currencies E-Gold and Standard Gold are both currencies that are
based on "gold" in a "digital" form so that gold itself can be used as
"cash". E-Gold and Standard Gold are not exactly the same thing. E-Gold is
"digital gold" that is exactly as the E-Gold website states, "gold itself
circulated electronically".

Standard Gold on the other hand is not "gold itself circulated
electronically". In fact it is "digital gold circulated electronically".
This means that instead of holding actual gold as the backing for Standard
Reserve holds "digital gold" as the backing for Standard Gold. This gives
Standard Gold potential that is simply not available with E-Gold. The
potential to use that digital gold backing to obtain growth of that asset
and therefore to be able to pass that growth onto the people who hold that
currency and to be able to sustain Standard Reserve into the future with
profits.

The Asset
=
So in having a more liquid asset being E-Gold for which there is a market,
and there are people who earn their sole income in the form of E-Gold, and
there are businesses that are now beginning to base their entire activies
on gold, there is a market where those individuals and businesses may need
capital to grow. Standard Reserve will be in that market providing capital
from its asset backing.

If you take a look at E-Gold's asset, it has been growing for the last
four years and is a bulk of about $15m worth of gold or something of that
size. Daily activities of the E-Gold currency do not call on that asset.
Similarly, with Standard Gold's asset, it will grow, and over time it will
have a bulk that is not called upon on a daily basis.

This is the bulk of money that is in a liquid form that can be used to
loan people and businesses so that earnings can be made and dividends paid
to holders of the currency.

The plan

This cannot occur until we achieve two things: one, sufficient asset so as
to have a meaningful amount to "invest" in some way, and two, a plan in
place that ensures that the public's money is not at risk.

We plan to introduce this in the following manner. We will not expose the
entire currency to this risk -- and there is a risk here as in any loan
activity. In time we will be offering a special account type that can be
selected and only that gold backing those accounts will be used in this
"factional banking" style.


This is the opportunity fro Standard Reserve and of which you will be
hearing more about as Standard Reserve grows. Further detail will be in a
number of articles on The Gold Economy in the next few weeks. Look for
them. The first of these will be appearing later today in about two hours
from now.

Dr Elwyn Jenkins
The Gold Economy
www.goldeconomy.com
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