[e-gold-list] Re: equivalent currency exchange

2003-12-03 Thread Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC
>One question though - was the exchange order in terms of USD or
>grams of gold? It is technically correct that e-gold does the
>transactional work on a grams basis. However, what was the spend, and
>exchange request, recorded as - "580 USD worth of" or "x grams of"?

580 USD worth of e-gold


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[e-gold-list] Re: debit card funding delays grrr! Virtual Visa and ATM card

2003-12-03 Thread Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC
> If you don't like the services or service that Graham Kelly offers, 
> and clearly you don't, then simply don't use them in the future.  I 
> think you've made the point about your dissatisfaction many times 
> over.


still waiting for the gold



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[e-gold-list] Re: debit card funding delays grrr! Virtual Visa and ATM card

2003-12-03 Thread Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC
I'M EXCITED TO INFORM YOU THAT I ALREADY RECEIVED AN ENQUIRY OF A COMPETITOR OF GRAHAM 
KELLY: :-) 
COMPETITION IS GOOD AND BRINGS DOWN PROFITS. 

> THIS IS ANOTHER HYPE. 
> YOU DON'T NEED TO BUY THESE CARDS FROM GOLDLATER/MARKETINGGUY. 
> IF YOU ARE INTERSTED I COULD TELL YOU WHERE (URL) YOU COULD BUY THESE CARDS DIRECTLY 
> WITHOUT PAYING A HEAVTY FEE TO GOLDLATER/MARKETINGGUY. 
> SHOULD I POST IT TO THE LIST?
> 
> > Stay tuned for further announcements... I'm excited, AGAIN!
> Graham Kelly CEO <
> YES, I'M EXCITED TO ENLIGHTEN THE E-GOLD LIST, AGAIN!


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[e-gold-list] Re: Ethical refunds

2003-12-03 Thread Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC
> The ethical way to deal with a situation like this is to return
the 
> exact amount of gold by weight to the customer, not the USD
value.
> 
> Sidd.

Why is that the case when the transaction was done in USD, and the
site/emails contain notices stating such an eventuality?

A transaction should be unraveled in the same manner that it was
entered.

LET'S HAVE A LOOK AT GOLDLATERS TOS: 
"2. The ecurrency transfer will occur within 72 hours of receipt
of
ecurrency." 
WE HAD TO WAIT APPROXIMATELY THREE WEEKS. GRAHAM KELLY BROKE HIS OWN
TOS!!!

10. In the event of any changes with the spot price of gold/dollar
value, we reserve the right to change our delivery structure between
the current dollar volume and "purchased" gold volume
(grams) amount.
NICE PROVISION. CUSTOMERS ALWAYS LOOSE. 


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[e-gold-list] Re: Some reasons why you should do MUCHbusiness with Graham Kelly/GoldNOW!

2003-12-03 Thread Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC
> I'm not sure in the case of DMT since I'm not that familiar with it. If it
> was for a certain amount of -gold- in the DMT system, then the amt. of gold
> should be returned. 

yes it was for a certain amount of (e-)gold in the DMT system...but goldLATER only had 
USD in their ALTA account.



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[e-gold-list] Re: debit card funding delays grrr!

2003-12-03 Thread Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC
From: "Graham Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> As a result, GoldNow will be able to create a VIRTUAL Visa card for y'all literally 
> within *seconds*, as well as fund it immediately!! (Well, maybe not ALL 32,000+ 
> GoldNow stomers, within seconds!) The card will also have a CVV2 number. This is to 
> be used for  online internet purchases only. You can also order an attached ATM 
> card, which attaches to the SAME account. Card to card transfers are their specialty.
We will be selling this package, an ATM card, plus a Visa virtual debit card. <
THIS IS ANOTHER HYPE. 
YOU DON'T NEED TO BUY THESE CARDS FROM GOLDLATER/MARKETINGGUY. 
IF YOU ARE INTERSTED I COULD TELL YOU WHERE (URL) YOU COULD BUY THESE CARDS DIRECTLY 
WITHOUT PAYING A HEAVTY FEE TO GOLDLATER/MARKETINGGUY. 
SHOULD I POST IT TO THE LIST?


> Stay tuned for further announcements... I'm excited, AGAIN!
Graham Kelly CEO <
YES, I'M EXCITED TO ENLIGHTEN THE E-GOLD LIST, AGAIN!


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[e-gold-list] Re: Some reasons why you should do MUCH business with Graham Kelly/GoldNOW!

2003-12-03 Thread Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC
From: "Graham Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> This person wants me to refund the difference in the cost of the e-gold
> when he delivered it to us, after he cancelled his order, and we refunded
> him. 
We cancelled the order because you sent us USD instead of e-gold into our ALTA 
account. 

> Apparantly,
> the value of gold reduced by some $13 odd! (Incidently, we would have
> refunded his e-gold for EXACTLY the same amount had the ecurrency value
> increased... he could have made $ on the refund!)
I am not so sure about that. His policy says that in the event the market is against 
GoldLATER/Graham Kelly he could change this so that it is in his favour. 

We faced a loss in gold because you delayed that oder by about THREE WEEKS!...and you 
think thats alright that we should cover this loss as a result of your inabilities to 
process our order. 
Beware of GoldLATER/Graham Kelly. This marketing guy hyped that he could do DMT/ALTA 
exchanges but had obviously no funds in his ALTA account at the time of ordering ant 
at least two weeks after our oder. After we publicly complained he realised that he 
cannot fool us. Other people of the e-gold mailing list had to help this wannabe big 
exchanger to get funds into his ALTA account. But then he gave us USD and we wanted 
e-gold. 
Great Service: Wait several weeks and get the wrong currency.


> We have 30,000+ happy customers, who KNOW this. 
If those customers would be faced with price fluctuations which could happen within 
THREE WEEKS they wouldn't be "happy". 


> Also, GoldNow is not a gold futures dealer... yet! 
Why a futures dealer? We gave you (e-)gold and we want back (e-)gold. What has this to 
do with futures? 
 
> Garry, Please keep those *reasons* coming...
you will not be amused. guarranted. 


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[e-gold-list] Re: Ethical refunds

2003-12-03 Thread Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC
the order was reversed because goldLATER sent us usd instead of e-gold. 
we are faced with a loss in gold because goldLATER delayed our order. we had to wait 
approximately THREE WEEKS! 
graham kelly delayed it and should pay the price for this delay. 
in fact he has not to pay any price for this delay...simple return what you get from 
us. 
we gave you gold and expect to get back the same weight of gold. that's all. 

but i have no hope. this marketing guy has no ethics. 
you may have a look at the osgold case. he promoted osgold heavily at a time he 
already knew that it is a scam to get his inventory of osgold funds sold. 



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[e-gold-list] Some reasons why you shouldn't any business with GrahamKelly/Gold now +++ Your GoldNow.st Order #EX-12453 REFUND

2003-12-02 Thread Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC
No. 1: The company name itself is false advertising. As everybody
knows it should read GoldNever or GoldLater. 

No. 2: This guy offers exchanges to DMT/ALTA but has obviously no
clue how it works. See below. 

Stay tuned. From now on more reasons will follow every day. 


Garry,

Thank you for the reminder. Having to "Claim" the amount is
unusual. It's now claimed. I will credit your e-gold account today.

Graham Kelly CEO


On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:10:39 -0500, "Internet Investment Group
LLC
Internet Investment Group LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 said:
again. still waiting for the money (e-gold). 
according to our alta account history you still haven't claimed the
money we payed to you. 
date: 2003-11-21
 
 
From: "Graham Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:43:03 +1300
To: "Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment
Group LLC"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: Your GoldNow.st Order #EX-12453
 
So, we are all newbies together... how delightful! :)

Transfer the funds back into my USD account 
D1FB86F2219EE12B6949C2A777E631B3D3F5A58F9B, and I will credit
your e-gold account as soon as I receive the funds back, same day.
 
Cheers!
 
GK


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[e-gold-list] Graham Kelly/GoldNow is only a marketing guy +++ vermycycle project?

2003-12-02 Thread Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC
he is great in announcing great things. but thats all. 
very late funding and very unfavourable rates and terms of business. 

by the way what happened to your vermicycle? project which you heavily advertised 
here? 
i assume it was a big success. ;-) 
i am waiting for your creative explanations ;-) maybe the summer was too hot and noone 
wanted to invest with goldlater ;-)


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[e-gold-list] Re: GolNow or should we say GoldNEVER ServiceComplaint

2003-11-18 Thread Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC
"Has it appeared to you that Graham might just not have any DMT/Alta funds?
As far as I can see he actually posted here trying to find some..."
 
Yes. 
Has it appeared to you that he posted here trying to find some DMT/Alta funds 13 
(THIRTEEN) DAYS AFTER HE GET YOUR FUNDS!
 
"It's amazing how people always believe that exchangers have to have stock
of every paltry DGC and carry the risk of price fluctuations, provide
instant service, reply to every email, hold their hand, etc. for a few
measly percents."
 
It's amazing how people can loose much of their credibility with a single e-mail. 
No, Robert is not always right. 
For a entity with over 2 customers it should be no problem to manage its DGC stock 
the right way. 
If GoldNow would provide instant service there would be no risk or CHANCE of price 
fluctuations. 
Don't you reply to the e-mails of your customers?...I say good night. 
"Measly percents"? Maybe you don't get it. Why are there so many exchangers?...because 
of those measly percents? 
With their exchange business they attract customers to sell them higher priced 
products (debit cards,...) later. 
 
 
"Cheers,
Robert.
 
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[e-gold-list] GoldNever Service Complaint follow up

2003-11-18 Thread Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC
No answer on single e-mails. 
They only answer if you do constantly mailbombing. 

TODAY IS SOME DAYS AGO. 


Subject: Your GoldNow.st Order #EX-12453
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:25 -0500 (CST)

Internet Investment Group LLC,

I do apologise for this crazy delay. This should be cleared up by COB
today.

Graham Kelly CEO

Customer Service Dept
GoldNow http://www.GoldNow.St

Primary Customer Service +61 3 9776-4886 (Australia)
US Call 1-866-999-1717
US Fax 1-213-559-8555 
UK Phone +44 (0)709 233-7612
UK Phone +44 (0)709 201-4015 CEO

Order a debit card today, at
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[e-gold-list] GolNow or should we say GoldNEVER Service Complaint

2003-11-17 Thread Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC
E-mail was previously sent on November 13 but was recjected by the list because of an 
attachment. 

After two weeks we are still waiting...


GOLDNOW / GRAHAM KELLY DOES NOT PROCESS OUR TRANSFER ORDER (e-gold
--> DMT/ALTA) NOR DOES HE REPLY TO ANY E-MAIL SENT TO HIM. E-GOLD
PAYMENT WAS MADE ON 11/05/03! 
Maybe he is busy counting the money he earned with the OSGold scam.


"11/5/03
   18:01 Payment Made 27450538 Gold -1.512386 103346 580.00 USD
383.50 
To: GoldNow.StMerchant Reference #: 12453 
Memo: GoldNow.st Order #EX-12453" 



"Note: If you have not already done so, please go into your
e-gold
account and perform a manual spend to our e-gold account 103346 in the
amount of 580.00 USD. Please keep in mind that we will deduct
applicable fee for the type of exchange you are requesting (see table
at https://www.goldnow.st/exchange.asp for details).
 
Thank you for your order to exchange gold! A summary of the order 
you placed appears below. Please note that we verify all customers 
before processing your order. 
 
AFTER THE VERIFICATION PROCESS IS COMPLETE, your account will 
be paid within 48 hours of the verification.
 
Your order number is: EX-12453. Please include this order number if 
you need to contact me about this order. If you have any questions 
about this order, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 PLEASE NOTE: 
EVERY COMMUNICATION MUST INCLUDE YOUR GOLDNOW ORDER NUMBER.
 
Our phone number is +44 (0)709-233-7612.
 
-
   TERMS & CONDITIONS
-
 

1. You hereby authorize GoldNow.st to request or verify your personal
details listed with the e-currency, for cross verification purposes,
and/or  authorize those companies to have access to the GoldNow
database, for cross verification purposes. No credit card information
will be compared, or shared. This is limited to personal information
ONLY.

2. The ecurrency transfer will occur within 72 hours of receipt of
ecurrency. We may take longer if we cannot verify the customer.

3. GoldNow.st is not and can not be responsible for any lost or stolen
ecurrency payments/transfers.

4. We reserve the right to reject any order, for any reason.

5. You agree that any ecurrency payments that you receive from this
order are to be used for only lawful purposes, and that you will not
use this service for the purpose of engaging in or promoting any
unlawful or fraudulent activities.
6. Your IP, 200.46.109.85, will be saved along with this order.We
reserve the right to report any fraudulent activity to the appropriate
authorities, and we make no apology for it!  If we discover a
fraudulent activity, we WILL report it.

7.  This service is independently operated and is neither endorsed by
nor affiliated with the e-currency. In the event of any questions
about this service and/or your order, you should contact us directly
at [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Please do NOT contact the e-currency about this
order, as they will NOT be able to help you with any issue relating to
this service.
8. Especially large cash redemptions from any GBC or DC
may
incur additional fees, to be advised on a case by case basis.
9. In the unlikely event of a e-currency failure, or bank failure, you
agree that GoldNow & GoldNow staff can not be held responsible for the
return of any of that failed stored currency, or fiat currency.
10. In the event of any changes with the spot price of gold/dollar
value, we reserve the right to change our delivery structure between
the current dollar volume and "purchased" gold volume
(grams) amount.
 
-
 ORDER SUMMARY
-
Your IP: ...
 
To Account Type: DMT/Alta account
To Account Number: ...
 
Email: ...

 
US$ amount of gold: $...
 
Name: ...
Address (line 1): ...
Address (line 2): 
City: ...
State: ...
Zip: ...
Country: 
Phone: ...
 
Comments: 
 
The above mentioned account # is our DMT/Alta Claim Number. We do
DMT/Alta transfers the first time."

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