[e-gold-list] RE: Visa Card

2001-01-01 Thread B Ray

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Some information about the Free Visa Card is in order.

I am somewhat puzzled by the promotion of a CC by some who are stauch supporters of 
e-gold, an asset back by a real commodity as a means of exchange.  Is not, as stated 
in an earlier post a credit card just another way of creating money out of thin air by 
using the debt concept?  How will we win the war if we detour off our objective by  
promoting something that has and does cause so much grief to MM and others?
Boyd Pate
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[e-gold-list] RE: Visa Card

2001-01-01 Thread Dale Pond

B Ray wrote:


 I am somewhat puzzled by the promotion of a CC by some who are stauch supporters of 
e-gold, an asset back by a real commodity as a means of exchange.  Is not, as stated 
in an earlier post a credit card just another way of creating money out of thin air 
by using the debt concept?  How will we win the war if we detour off our objective by 
 promoting something that has and does cause so much grief to MM and others?

I concur. Maybe the lure of dollars overshadows other concerns? Was it Kruschev (sp?) 
who said circa 1947 communism would be implemented in America by Americans through 
their love of money? And it would be the grandchildren of those he spoke to that would 
willing raise the socialist flag in America?

The 5th plank of the Communist Manifesto:

 5. "Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank 
with state capital and an exclusive monopoly."

More comments on the Communist Manifesto can be seen here:

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7006/com-man.html

The world Communist movement has posted their ostentatious intents here:

http://www.anu.edu.au/polsci/marx/classics/manifesto.html

By the way the "State" is most likely the privately controlled "United States of 
America", a subset or "agency" of the original government called "United States". You 
can read about this incredible fraud here:

http://www.LawResearch-Registry.org/tyranny.htm

If one promotes or encourages credit are they promoting communism? America was founded 
in part on the principle of property ("rights" are property). Communism does not 
recognize property (property includes your "rights"). Credit is not based on property 
but upon commerical contracts. Hard asset based currencies are about property 
including the right to own and control property. Does this indicate there is a
conflict looming on the horizon? Or are we in it already?

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[e-gold-list] RE: Visa Card

2001-01-01 Thread PR

B Ray said on Monday, January 01, 2001 12:15 PM:

 I am somewhat puzzled by the promotion of a CC by some who are
 stauch supporters of e-gold, an asset back by a real commodity as
 a means of exchange.  Is not, as stated in an earlier post a
 credit card just another way of creating money out of thin air by
 using the debt concept?  How will we win the war if we detour off
 our objective by  promoting something that has and does cause so
 much grief to MM and others?

Posts about credit cards are welcome so long as they are related to the
topic of e-gold.  The post you reference most definitely did not fall into
this category.

 - Reid -

a.k.a. owner-e-gold-list
(who is capable of selective moderation if sufficiently provoked)


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