[e-gold-list] Re: FAKE gold bars!!

2001-06-08 Thread Ken Griffith

Tungsten isn't exactly cheap or common either is it?
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  some clever person on this list explained the process of making good
  FAKE gold bars.
 

 That would be me...

 Here are the originals...
 http://www.mail-archive.com/e-gold-list@talk.e-gold.com/msg01478.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/e-gold-list@talk.e-gold.com/msg01879.html

 Tungsten, which has the exact same DENSITY as Gold, can be coated with a
 15 micron coating of Gold and pass as a Gold Bar, under the scrutiny of
 X-Ray Fluorescence; which can test to 10 microns deep only!

 Gold: 19.3 g/cm^3, $8820/kg
 Tungsten: 19.25 g/cm^3, $110/kg


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[e-gold-list] Re: FAKE gold bars!!

2001-06-08 Thread Viking Coder

 I'm sure you could test for this with a seismic approach - sound
 transmission and scattering, such as they use to prospect for oil but on
 a smaller scale. It wouldn't detect *what* the error was, but it would
 detect a linear discontinuity in the metal content, and the bar could
 then get sawn in half to check.

This is nowhere near my area of expertise, but I don't think you can take
a SONAR reading on something so small.


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[e-gold-list] Re: FAKE gold bars!!

2001-06-08 Thread Tristan Petersen

This is nowhere near my area of expertise, but I don't think you can take
a SONAR reading on something so small.

Indeed, you can. Perhaps not as a SONAR reading as such, but using the
same principles and concepts. There is a subset of the Mechanical
Engineering field called Nondestructive Testing. Using these
techniques, you can determine flaws in metals and other materials without
(you guessed it) destroying them. One technique is called ultrasound; it
can be used to determine flaws and other things in metals.

In any event, the concept between the two is the same: use sound
(vibrations through a medium) and look at the reflecting patterns.

Although NDT is not my specific field, I believe the ultrasound technique
might be able to discern the boundary where the gold meets the tungsten
(was that the metal?)

Tristan


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[e-gold-list] Re: FAKE gold bars!!

2001-06-08 Thread jpm

thank you ...

 some clever person on this list explained the process of making good
 FAKE gold bars.


That would be me...

Here are the originals...
http://www.mail-archive.com/e-gold-list@talk.e-gold.com/msg01478.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/e-gold-list@talk.e-gold.com/msg01879.html

Tungsten, which has the exact same DENSITY as Gold, can be coated with a
15 micron coating of Gold and pass as a Gold Bar, under the scrutiny of
X-Ray Fluorescence; which can test to 10 microns deep only!

Gold: 19.3 g/cm^3, $8820/kg
Tungsten: 19.25 g/cm^3, $110/kg


Viking Coder




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[e-gold-list] Re: FAKE gold bars!!

2001-06-07 Thread Tril

On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 01:37:47PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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