[e-gold-list] Re: How is this for service!!! Please read

2001-05-25 Thread Joyce Marie

You know...all this storm of controversy that started
over my posting the other day really bothered
me...even the reaction that I had.  So, I decided to
check the facts.

Here are the facts...

I spent $9.90 to the OSOpps in error.

I wrote to OSGold about it...not knowing if they could
help.

In their terms and agreements, as I just discovered,
they DO say that they will mediate by contacting the
recipient of a spend error one time and do NOT
guarantee the results.

I guess they did this, as my incorrect spend WAS
returned from the account I spent it to in error.

I was merely writing because I was so pleased to have
my situation resolved at all...let again so
quickly...nowadays that just doesn't happen often, and
I was impressed.

It's as simple as that.

Joyce Marie

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> Unfortunately, that story means that
> 
>   OS Gold is super for specific purposes and
> customers.
> 
> but it also means
> 
>   OS Gold is not a player as a currency.
> 
> Just last night i spent THIRTY THOUSAND dollars of
> gold, to a market 
> maker I was selling wholesale to (you know who you
> are, you bastard! 
> :) )
> 
> Today the price of gold has shot up again.
> 
> I would LOVE TO revoke that spend, so i could get a
> better price. 
> But, with e-gold it is not possible to revoke the
> spend.
> 
> Thus, if you are into the specific purposes and
> customers OS Gold is 
> targetted to, I reckon OS Gold is aboslutely perfect
> for your uses 
> and you should never, ever use e-gold for any
> reason.
> 
> 
> 
> >Hi everyone
> >
> >I just had to tell you about this!
> >
> >I have a private club called International Money
> Club.
> >I set up an OsGold account a few weeks ago for the
> >club. Well when they came out with the OSOPPS site
> >last week I offered to all the club members that
> >signed up under the IMC (International Money Club)
> >account with OSOPPS that I would send them back
> $9.90
> >of the referal fee that was paid to the IMC
> account.
> >All has gone well...OSOPPS pays the referal fees
> then
> >I send the $9.90 to the members that joined.
> >
> >Well, while sending the funds to some members the
> >other day I accidently sent the $9.90 to the wrong
> >accountoops...suppposed to look at that name
> >before you confirmand I know better but was in
> a
> >hurry...so I went ahead and sent the funds to the
> >person I was supposed to.
> >
> >I then made contact with the Customer Care of
> OSGOLD
> >and they replied in a very short time...not
> counting
> >the auto mail you receive right away...but a person
> >made contact with me and told me the would send it
> to
> >the operations manager...or whatever...any way the
> >next day I received another email message telling
> me
> >that it would be refunded to me...
> >
> >This morning when I looked in my account there was
> the
> >refund
> >2001-05-23 00:03:56 638632 10005584 OSOPPS 10014478
> >International Money Club 10.00 USD spent to wrong
> >account :-)
> >
> >...and look they sent $10...that means I didn't
> even
> >lose the .10 that it took me to get it back..they
> >covered that too! AND IT WAS MY MISTAKE NOT THEIRS.
> >
> >Yes, the mistake was made by me, sending the funds
> to
> >OSOPPS...I put the wrong account number...but
> >still...I am really happy that they felt I was
> >important enough and that my little 9.90 was sent
> back
> >to me
> >
> >Just wanted to share that!
> >
> >Joyce Marie
> >
> >
> >=
> >
> >OsOpps! Join today!
>
>http://www.osopps.com/cgi-bin/show.cgi/joycemarie/index.html
> >OsGold account...FREE
> http://www.osgold.com/index.php?id=1032
> >"Find something you love to do and you will never
> have to work 
> >another day in your life." -- Harvey MacKay
> >
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> prices
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[e-gold-list] Re: How is this for service!!!

2001-05-25 Thread Tommie Wilhite

Why does it matter? They evidently could help the lady in one way or another and they 
did it. 

I have heard such stories about E-Gold being able to help someone un-do an error even 
though it obviously was not their problem.

But why assume that if they were in fact able to help, whether it was by just dropping 
an email to their member or by blowing ten bucks in order to make some points, why 
assume that this was some dark violation of some kind.

It gets a little ridiculous sometimes.

Tommie

 


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[e-gold-list] Re: How is this for service!!!

2001-05-24 Thread jpm

Unfortunately, that story means that

OS Gold is super for specific purposes and customers.

but it also means

OS Gold is not a player as a currency.

Just last night i spent THIRTY THOUSAND dollars of gold, to a market 
maker I was selling wholesale to (you know who you are, you bastard! 
:) )

Today the price of gold has shot up again.

I would LOVE TO revoke that spend, so i could get a better price. 
But, with e-gold it is not possible to revoke the spend.

Thus, if you are into the specific purposes and customers OS Gold is 
targetted to, I reckon OS Gold is aboslutely perfect for your uses 
and you should never, ever use e-gold for any reason.



>Hi everyone
>
>I just had to tell you about this!
>
>I have a private club called International Money Club.
>I set up an OsGold account a few weeks ago for the
>club. Well when they came out with the OSOPPS site
>last week I offered to all the club members that
>signed up under the IMC (International Money Club)
>account with OSOPPS that I would send them back $9.90
>of the referal fee that was paid to the IMC account.
>All has gone well...OSOPPS pays the referal fees then
>I send the $9.90 to the members that joined.
>
>Well, while sending the funds to some members the
>other day I accidently sent the $9.90 to the wrong
>accountoops...suppposed to look at that name
>before you confirmand I know better but was in a
>hurry...so I went ahead and sent the funds to the
>person I was supposed to.
>
>I then made contact with the Customer Care of OSGOLD
>and they replied in a very short time...not counting
>the auto mail you receive right away...but a person
>made contact with me and told me the would send it to
>the operations manager...or whatever...any way the
>next day I received another email message telling me
>that it would be refunded to me...
>
>This morning when I looked in my account there was the
>refund
>2001-05-23 00:03:56 638632 10005584 OSOPPS 10014478
>International Money Club 10.00 USD spent to wrong
>account :-)
>
>...and look they sent $10...that means I didn't even
>lose the .10 that it took me to get it back..they
>covered that too! AND IT WAS MY MISTAKE NOT THEIRS.
>
>Yes, the mistake was made by me, sending the funds to
>OSOPPS...I put the wrong account number...but
>still...I am really happy that they felt I was
>important enough and that my little 9.90 was sent back
>to me
>
>Just wanted to share that!
>
>Joyce Marie
>
>
>=
>
>OsOpps! Join today!
>http://www.osopps.com/cgi-bin/show.cgi/joycemarie/index.html
>OsGold account...FREE http://www.osgold.com/index.php?id=1032
>"Find something you love to do and you will never have to work 
>another day in your life." -- Harvey MacKay
>
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[e-gold-list] Re: How is this for service!!!

2001-05-24 Thread Viking Coder

> > So, in other words, OSGold has proven that they are a repudiable form of
> > payment.
> 
> I think you misread the note.  It looked as if osgold contacted the other
> account holder and they did the refund, not osgold.

: 2001-05-23 00:03:56 638632 10005584 OSOPPS 10014478 International Money
Club
: 10.00 USD spent to wrong account :-) 

It appears that the refund came from OSOpps, not from some anonymous,
generous, un-intentional recipient. She said she was trying to send the
payment to somebody and ended up sending it to somebody else. Neither one
of these people was OSOpps, yet that is where she got the refund from.


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[e-gold-list] Re: How is this for service!!!

2001-05-24 Thread Viking Coder

> There's a fourth way - they could have just eaten the $10 and paid it out to
> keep a happy customer.
> 

That is exactly what option number 3 is.

> > 3) Leave the original payment intact, and spend the refund from their own
> > account.

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> > 
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[e-gold-list] Re: How is this for service!!!

2001-05-24 Thread Vince Callaway

On Thu, 24 May 2001, Viking Coder wrote:
> 
> So, in other words, OSGold has proven that they are a repudiable form of
> payment.

I think you misread the note.  It looked as if osgold contacted the other
account holder and they did the refund, not osgold.


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[e-gold-list] Re: How is this for service!!!

2001-05-24 Thread hkkid

There's a fourth way - they could have just eaten the $10 and paid it out to
keep a happy customer.

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> > any way the next day I received another email message telling
> > me that it would be refunded to me...
> >
> > This morning when I looked in my account there was the
> > refund
>
> So, in other words, OSGold has proven that they are a repudiable form of
> payment.
>
> There is only 3 ways that they could have given you a refund.
>
> 1) Negate the original payment; just like you do with a bank check, or
> credit card.
>
> 2) Leave the original payment intact, and create your refund of thin air.
>
> 3) Leave the original payment intact, and spend the refund from their own
> account.
>
>
> The first option does away non-repudiability. Why bother with an
> instantly-clearing financial system, when at any point in the future the
> transaction could be reversed if the payer complains enough?
>
> The second option does away the 150% backing claim, of which only 50% is
> metal. The whole claim of backing is shoddy in the first place because
> there is no method is exchange OSGold for the backing. In effect, OSGold
> becomes no better than the glorious US dollar. The only thing supporting
> such a currency is the belief in that currency. As long as nobody
> questions it's validity, it is valid.
>
> The third option does away with their profitiability. They would retain
> both non-repudiability and a claim of backing, but would soon be running
> real low on cash after granting all the refund requests.
>
>
> Viking Coder
> 
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[e-gold-list] Re: How is this for service!!!

2001-05-24 Thread Mike McNamara

At 11:54 AM -0500 5/24/01, SnowDog wrote:

>With all due respect, this is another reason to suspect that they might not
>be credible. Refunding that payment is a violation of their terms of
>service, unless they got the explicit permission of the account to which the
>money was sent.

Well surely they are as credible as the vague and exciting investment 
world of OsOpps:

http://www.osopps.com/


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[e-gold-list] Re: How is this for service!!!

2001-05-24 Thread Viking Coder

> any way the next day I received another email message telling
> me that it would be refunded to me...
>
> This morning when I looked in my account there was the
> refund

So, in other words, OSGold has proven that they are a repudiable form of
payment.

There is only 3 ways that they could have given you a refund.

1) Negate the original payment; just like you do with a bank check, or
credit card.

2) Leave the original payment intact, and create your refund of thin air.

3) Leave the original payment intact, and spend the refund from their own
account.


The first option does away non-repudiability. Why bother with an
instantly-clearing financial system, when at any point in the future the
transaction could be reversed if the payer complains enough?

The second option does away the 150% backing claim, of which only 50% is
metal. The whole claim of backing is shoddy in the first place because
there is no method is exchange OSGold for the backing. In effect, OSGold
becomes no better than the glorious US dollar. The only thing supporting
such a currency is the belief in that currency. As long as nobody
questions it's validity, it is valid.

The third option does away with their profitiability. They would retain
both non-repudiability and a claim of backing, but would soon be running
real low on cash after granting all the refund requests.


Viking Coder

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