[e-gold-list] Re: Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer you might not noitice

2000-11-15 Thread Destiny Worldwide


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-Original Message-
From: Glencannon Group Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Destiny Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED]; e-gold Discussion
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer you
might not noitice


I generally don't like to talk bad about people, but this fellow is full of
shit.  I never spoke ill of whoever "Destiny Worldwide" is and I have no
particular problems with their system as I HAVE NO INFORMATION ABOUT IT.
Now a little less than a month I asked if people would be interested in
this, and I would put it together.  This is waht I have done.  I don't
appreciate the tone of this message, but I will let people judge for
themselves.  I do not claim that this is ANONYMOUS, and I do not claim it
is
a high security vehicle.  If that is what you want and need, contact me and
I'll give you some advice.  I do not advise the use of ANONYMOUS accounts
as
most of these are run by crooks who either run off with the funds inthe


Excuse me,  this is issued by the largest bank in thier jurisdiction.  If
you can start calling people names, then so can I.  I think, though, if
people will compare your pitiful little website with ours they will see a
big difference.  We have spent money and time to develop ours, along with a
functional database, etc.  Yours 

accounts, or get caught because they are breaking the laws in the
jurisdiction in which they operate.  But the fact is that this asshole has
chosen to promote his product, which may be very fine, by attacking mine
with false and misleading comments.  I will address these pissant comments
below:


I will answer your points below.  I have not attacked anything, just pointed
out the facts.  Sorry if this hurts your sales.  And since our card is
issued by the LARGEST BANK in their jurisdiction, what's the problem?  YOU
ARE THE GUY TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO BUY A COMPANY CARD THAT BY CONTRACT
BELONGS TO YOU!



On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:05:41 -0600, Destiny Worldwide wrote:

  I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but since Glencannon pointed
out
  what he thought was a problem with our system, let me pount out a couple
  with his.

  1.  His website states that he is in Belize, yet he gives an address in
  Texas to mail the applications.  Obviusly, then, the address in Belize
is
a
  maildrop.  What this means is that when you send yoru documents to him,
they
  are sotred onshore, where BB can seize them anytime they want.  Your
  identity is not safe!

The mail drop is in Houston, and documents are forwarded to me wherever I
may be, Belize, the Dominican Republic, or sometimes Houston.  But no
doubt,


Oh, so if there is a problem, don't bother looking for you because you are
on the lam -- er.. on the go all the time.  It's is obvious that this is
a one man show.  We, on the other hand, are an established company with
offices, employees, etc...

there is a possibility of interception.  I never claimed this was some kind
of safe way to do "money launderying."  If that is what you need you might


Who said anything about money laundering?  That is a viscius ad homanim
argument and a logical fallacy.  People can send orders to a place where we
really are.  Anyway, there is no proof that this is a maildrop, just your
word.  And no one knows if you are really the globetrotter you claim, or
just some guy working in his basement in Houston.

want to go elsewhere.  What I am providing is a convenient way of giving a
service.  Take it or leave it.


Yeah, real conventient.  And THEIR CARD IS IN YOUR COMPANY NAME!  How
convenient for you!



  2.  Same for the bank.  If the bank they are ever using rolls over and
rats
  you out, then you are screwed.  The only way to prevent this is if the
bnak
  does not know who you are.


This is utter Bullshit, but would go for any bank out there.  This bank in
particular is a very safe and sound bank in a very safe and sound
jurisdiction.  I have been doing business with it and others in this
jurisdiction, and it will no more "rat you out" than the rat who wrote this
email.


that's what people thought with Guardian Trust, too, but if the bank doens't
know who you are, then they CAN'T RAT ON YOU, CAN THEY?  Even if the
jurisdiction changes it's laws under OECD  or FATF preassure.  So, you have
this guy's assurances versus the FACTS!


  3.  What are his fees for the transfers from egold to the card?  He does
not
  disclose this, but our fees are clearly stated on our website.  If you
are
  just transferring from egold to the card, then you will look in the
  passthrough category of our fee shcedule, plus add the wire transfer
fe

[e-gold-list] Re: Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer you might not noitice

2000-11-15 Thread Michael Moore

Both of you.

I do not think this is an appropriate discussion board for a personal bun
fight.

None of this will enamour customers to your cause.

You don't have to prove yourself right by proving someone else wrong.

I suggest you kiss and make up

Your customers are watching you

Kind regards,

Michael Moore
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.gold-today.com
Sign up with e-gold today and get grams of e-gold here.
https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=129542

- Original Message -
From: "Destiny Worldwide" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 9:37 AM
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer you
might not noitice



 !!!
 Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and
 we now have web based banking, opening of accounts,
 deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com
 +))
 -Original Message-
 From: Glencannon Group Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Destiny Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED]; e-gold Discussion
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer you
 might not noitice


 I generally don't like to talk bad about people, but this fellow is full
of
 shit.  I never spoke ill of whoever "Destiny Worldwide" is and I have no
 particular problems with their system as I HAVE NO INFORMATION ABOUT IT.
 Now a little less than a month I asked if people would be interested in
 this, and I would put it together.  This is waht I have done.  I don't
 appreciate the tone of this message, but I will let people judge for
 themselves.  I do not claim that this is ANONYMOUS, and I do not claim it
 is
 a high security vehicle.  If that is what you want and need, contact me
and
 I'll give you some advice.  I do not advise the use of ANONYMOUS accounts
 as
 most of these are run by crooks who either run off with the funds inthe


 Excuse me,  this is issued by the largest bank in thier jurisdiction.  If
 you can start calling people names, then so can I.  I think, though, if
 people will compare your pitiful little website with ours they will see a
 big difference.  We have spent money and time to develop ours, along with
a
 functional database, etc.  Yours 

 accounts, or get caught because they are breaking the laws in the
 jurisdiction in which they operate.  But the fact is that this asshole
has
 chosen to promote his product, which may be very fine, by attacking mine
 with false and misleading comments.  I will address these pissant
comments
 below:


 I will answer your points below.  I have not attacked anything, just
pointed
 out the facts.  Sorry if this hurts your sales.  And since our card is
 issued by the LARGEST BANK in their jurisdiction, what's the problem?  YOU
 ARE THE GUY TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO BUY A COMPANY CARD THAT BY CONTRACT
 BELONGS TO YOU!

 
 
 On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:05:41 -0600, Destiny Worldwide wrote:
 
   I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but since Glencannon pointed
 out
   what he thought was a problem with our system, let me pount out a
couple
   with his.
 
   1.  His website states that he is in Belize, yet he gives an address
in
   Texas to mail the applications.  Obviusly, then, the address in Belize
 is
 a
   maildrop.  What this means is that when you send yoru documents to
him,
 they
   are sotred onshore, where BB can seize them anytime they want.  Your
   identity is not safe!
 
 The mail drop is in Houston, and documents are forwarded to me wherever I
 may be, Belize, the Dominican Republic, or sometimes Houston.  But no
 doubt,


 Oh, so if there is a problem, don't bother looking for you because you are
 on the lam -- er.. on the go all the time.  It's is obvious that this
is
 a one man show.  We, on the other hand, are an established company with
 offices, employees, etc...

 there is a possibility of interception.  I never claimed this was some
kind
 of safe way to do "money launderying."  If that is what you need you
might


 Who said anything about money laundering?  That is a viscius ad homanim
 argument and a logical fallacy.  People can send orders to a place where
we
 really are.  Anyway, there is no proof that this is a maildrop, just your
 word.  And no one knows if you are really the globetrotter you claim, or
 just some guy working in his basement in Houston.

 want to go elsewhere.  What I am providing is a convenient way of giving
a
 service.  Take it or leave it.


 Yeah, real conventient.  And THEIR CARD IS IN YOUR COMPANY NAME!  How
 convenient for you!

 
 
   2.  Same for the bank.  If the bank they are ever using rolls over and
 rats
   you out, then you are screwed.  The only way to prevent this is if the
 bnak
   does not know who you are.
 
 

[e-gold-list] Re: Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer you might not noitice

2000-11-15 Thread Destiny Worldwide

I heartily agree.  I refraim form this type of thing most of the time, but
when attacked and called an ashole, it is hard to resist.  I have found most
of the people I deal with introduced to me frm egold to be great people to
work with.  That's why I was surprised by the vritriol in the other guy's
post.  I promise to stop this.

John
!!!
Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and
we now have web based banking, opening of accounts,
deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com
+))
-Original Message-
From: Michael Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Destiny Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED]; e-gold Discussion
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Re: Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer
you might not noitice


Both of you.

I do not think this is an appropriate discussion board for a personal bun
fight.

None of this will enamour customers to your cause.

You don't have to prove yourself right by proving someone else wrong.

I suggest you kiss and make up

Your customers are watching you

Kind regards,

Michael Moore
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.gold-today.com
Sign up with e-gold today and get grams of e-gold here.
https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=129542

- Original Message -
From: "Destiny Worldwide" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 9:37 AM
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer you
might not noitice



 !!!
 Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and
 we now have web based banking, opening of accounts,
 deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com
 +))

 -Original Message-
 From: Glencannon Group Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Destiny Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED]; e-gold Discussion
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer
you
 might not noitice


 I generally don't like to talk bad about people, but this fellow is full
of
 shit.  I never spoke ill of whoever "Destiny Worldwide" is and I have no
 particular problems with their system as I HAVE NO INFORMATION ABOUT IT.
 Now a little less than a month I asked if people would be interested in
 this, and I would put it together.  This is waht I have done.  I don't
 appreciate the tone of this message, but I will let people judge for
 themselves.  I do not claim that this is ANONYMOUS, and I do not claim
it
 is
 a high security vehicle.  If that is what you want and need, contact me
and
 I'll give you some advice.  I do not advise the use of ANONYMOUS
accounts
 as
 most of these are run by crooks who either run off with the funds inthe


 Excuse me,  this is issued by the largest bank in thier jurisdiction.  If
 you can start calling people names, then so can I.  I think, though, if
 people will compare your pitiful little website with ours they will see a
 big difference.  We have spent money and time to develop ours, along with
a
 functional database, etc.  Yours 

 accounts, or get caught because they are breaking the laws in the
 jurisdiction in which they operate.  But the fact is that this asshole
has
 chosen to promote his product, which may be very fine, by attacking mine
 with false and misleading comments.  I will address these pissant
comments
 below:


 I will answer your points below.  I have not attacked anything, just
pointed
 out the facts.  Sorry if this hurts your sales.  And since our card is
 issued by the LARGEST BANK in their jurisdiction, what's the problem?
YOU
 ARE THE GUY TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO BUY A COMPANY CARD THAT BY CONTRACT
 BELONGS TO YOU!

 
 
 On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:05:41 -0600, Destiny Worldwide wrote:
 
   I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but since Glencannon pointed
 out
   what he thought was a problem with our system, let me pount out a
couple
   with his.
 
   1.  His website states that he is in Belize, yet he gives an address
in
   Texas to mail the applications.  Obviusly, then, the address in
Belize
 is
 a
   maildrop.  What this means is that when you send yoru documents to
him,
 they
   are sotred onshore, where BB can seize them anytime they want.  Your
   identity is not safe!
 
 The mail drop is in Houston, and documents are forwarded to me wherever
I
 may be, Belize, the Dominican Republic, or sometimes Houston.  But no
 doubt,


 Oh, so if there is a problem, don't bother looking for you because you
are
 on the lam -- er.. on the go all the time.  It's is obvious that this
is
 a one man show.  We, on the other hand, 

[e-gold-list] Re: Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer you might not noitice

2000-11-15 Thread Glencannon Group Ltd.

And I bet your dad is bigger than my dad too.  Again, Best of luck.

On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:37:56 -0600, Destiny Worldwide wrote:

  
  !!!
  Our Offshore Website has been totally redesigned, and
  we now have web based banking, opening of accounts,
  deposits, and withdrawals! Go to: http://www.offshorearnings.com
  +))
  -Original Message-
  From: Glencannon Group Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Destiny Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED]; e-gold Discussion
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Problems with Glencannon's debit card offer
you
  might not noitice
  
  
  I generally don't like to talk bad about people, but this fellow is full
of
  shit.  I never spoke ill of whoever "Destiny Worldwide" is and I have no
  particular problems with their system as I HAVE NO INFORMATION ABOUT IT.
  Now a little less than a month I asked if people would be interested in
  this, and I would put it together.  This is waht I have done.  I don't
  appreciate the tone of this message, but I will let people judge for
  themselves.  I do not claim that this is ANONYMOUS, and I do not claim
it
  is
  a high security vehicle.  If that is what you want and need, contact me
and
  I'll give you some advice.  I do not advise the use of ANONYMOUS
accounts
  as
  most of these are run by crooks who either run off with the funds inthe
  
  
  Excuse me,  this is issued by the largest bank in thier jurisdiction.  If
  you can start calling people names, then so can I.  I think, though, if
  people will compare your pitiful little website with ours they will see a
  big difference.  We have spent money and time to develop ours, along with
a
  functional database, etc.  Yours 
  
  accounts, or get caught because they are breaking the laws in the
  jurisdiction in which they operate.  But the fact is that this asshole
has
  chosen to promote his product, which may be very fine, by attacking mine
  with false and misleading comments.  I will address these pissant
comments
  below:
  
  
  I will answer your points below.  I have not attacked anything, just
pointed
  out the facts.  Sorry if this hurts your sales.  And since our card is
  issued by the LARGEST BANK in their jurisdiction, what's the problem? 
YOU
  ARE THE GUY TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO BUY A COMPANY CARD THAT BY CONTRACT
  BELONGS TO YOU!
  
  
  
  On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:05:41 -0600, Destiny Worldwide wrote:
  
I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but since Glencannon pointed
  out
what he thought was a problem with our system, let me pount out a
couple
with his.
  
1.  His website states that he is in Belize, yet he gives an address
in
Texas to mail the applications.  Obviusly, then, the address in
Belize
  is
  a
maildrop.  What this means is that when you send yoru documents to
him,
  they
are sotred onshore, where BB can seize them anytime they want.  Your
identity is not safe!
  
  The mail drop is in Houston, and documents are forwarded to me wherever
I
  may be, Belize, the Dominican Republic, or sometimes Houston.  But no
  doubt,
  
  
  Oh, so if there is a problem, don't bother looking for you because you
are
  on the lam -- er.. on the go all the time.  It's is obvious that this
is
  a one man show.  We, on the other hand, are an established company with
  offices, employees, etc...
  
  there is a possibility of interception.  I never claimed this was some
kind
  of safe way to do "money launderying."  If that is what you need you
might
  
  
  Who said anything about money laundering?  That is a viscius ad homanim
  argument and a logical fallacy.  People can send orders to a place where
we
  really are.  Anyway, there is no proof that this is a maildrop, just your
  word.  And no one knows if you are really the globetrotter you claim, or
  just some guy working in his basement in Houston.
  
  want to go elsewhere.  What I am providing is a convenient way of giving
a
  service.  Take it or leave it.
  
  
  Yeah, real conventient.  And THEIR CARD IS IN YOUR COMPANY NAME!  How
  convenient for you!
  
  
  
2.  Same for the bank.  If the bank they are ever using rolls over
and
  rats
you out, then you are screwed.  The only way to prevent this is if
the
  bnak
does not know who you are.
  
  
  This is utter Bullshit, but would go for any bank out there.  This bank
in
  particular is a very safe and sound bank in a very safe and sound
  jurisdiction.  I have been doing business with it and others in this
  jurisdiction, and it will no more "rat you out" than the rat who wrote
this
  email.
  
  
  that's what people thought with Guardian Trust, too, but if the bank
doens't
  know who you are, then they CAN'T RAT ON YOU, CAN THEY?  Even if the
  jurisdiction changes it's laws under OECD  or FATF preassure.  So, yo