[E3-hacking] About Amstrad E3 Video Phone Main Software

[Nick Griffin]

I noticed on the Amstrad E3 Video Phone that the Services on the home screen 
change with every update of the Main Software so V1 is different to V2 and so 
on so if you were look for a version you could spot it easterly by the service 
on the home screen. I own a V2,V4 and V5. I am trying to get photos of the E3 
home screen of each Main Software version so V1,V2,V3,V4 and V5, I have 
V2,V4,V5, need V1 and V3 anyone can help...?

Probably will be hard it get a V1 photo of the E3 Home Screen..

http://amstrad-e3-hacking.freeforums.net/thread/38/amstrad-video-phone-main-software

Nick

From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
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All you need is a PS/2 Adapter and plug the 4 wires from the Mailboard into it 
and it works fine just needs mapping.

Posted about it here…  
http://amstrad-e3-hacking.freeforums.net/thread/36/using-amstrad-mailboard-keyboard-android<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http://amstrad-e3-hacking.freeforums.net/thread/36/using-amstrad-mailboard-keyboard-android&data=02%7c01%7c%7c5b9ef2b0def349a1028808d727c976c6%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c637021618547010903&sdata=LiE38X2BGxmlh98E85t%2B91Oe1nlRpWKWT9FiDB254UE%3D&reserved=0>

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
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Its funny realy Android is Linux and the E3 run on Linux… 😊

I am using a app called Keyboard/Button Mapper its on Google Play got it from 
XDA,It works but the keys don’t work properly in games or Emulators so just 
looked it up and I need to make a .kl Keyboard layout file for it so it knows 
where the keys are.
Anyone made a keyboard layout file, it works the same way in Linux, Android 
uses the same layout files..? this is the app… 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.github.sds100.keymapper&rdid=io.github.sds100.keymapper<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id%3Dio.github.sds100.keymapper%26rdid%3Dio.github.sds100.keymapper&data=02%7c01%7c%7c5b9ef2b0def349a1028808d727c976c6%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c637021618547010903&sdata=2lN99eYoefJwLJ/un1YJFXyUxaflj/8zWRyhbjpWymY%3D&reserved=0>

Ok just relised you answered this question already.. 😊

The Mailboard a good little keyboard for Android… 😊 If I manage to make a key 
file for it and it works I shear it here if anyone wants to use there's with 
Android.


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From: Ralph Corderoy<mailto:ra...@inputplus.co.uk>
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎22‎ ‎August‎ ‎2019 ‎11‎:‎17
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Hi Nick,

> I plugged it into my PC just to see if it works ,I need it to work on
> Andriod, is there a way of mapping the keys on that, its Android
> 4.4.4…?

That's more of an Android question, you may be better off asking
somewhere else.  Google suggests things like
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpyra-handheld.com%2Fboards%2Fthreads%2Ftutorial-how-to-remap-android-hardware-keys.69593%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5fb615a9f08b4ef2c9b808d726e9fb70%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637020658691998236&sdata=cM3isLd%2FMsP760WSWNHJdCfBwZ4ehsZinGlbTykWzv4%3D&reserved=0
so it looks possible.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Anyone know the Pinout of the Amstrad E3 Videophone Mailboard

[Nick Griffin]

All you need is a PS/2 Adapter and plug the 4 wires from the Mailboard into it 
and it works fine just needs mapping.

Posted about it here…  
http://amstrad-e3-hacking.freeforums.net/thread/36/using-amstrad-mailboard-keyboard-android<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http://amstrad-e3-hacking.freeforums.net/thread/36/using-amstrad-mailboard-keyboard-android&data=02%7c01%7c%7cd9bb2a0eed0543f0e83508d727c944dc%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c637021617699834319&sdata=p8euCRZxGf9%2BfHexInbRMYlLnQUmirGXznE0FMR7/mA%3D&reserved=0>

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎23‎ ‎August‎ ‎2019 ‎13‎:‎37
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
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Its funny realy Android is Linux and the E3 run on Linux… 😊

I am using a app called Keyboard/Button Mapper its on Google Play got it from 
XDA,It works but the keys don’t work properly in games or Emulators so just 
looked it up and I need to make a .kl Keyboard layout file for it so it knows 
where the keys are.
Anyone made a keyboard layout file, it works the same way in Linux, Android 
uses the same layout files..? this is the app… 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.github.sds100.keymapper&rdid=io.github.sds100.keymapper<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id%3Dio.github.sds100.keymapper%26rdid%3Dio.github.sds100.keymapper&data=02%7c01%7c%7c296534ae3ba340eeec5708d727c6b23e%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c63702160904248&sdata=WJHkHn8P8ykeDjA7dC92BJeC%2BaODrTgQZYfTyUwJyi8%3D&reserved=0>

Ok just relised you answered this question already.. 😊

The Mailboard a good little keyboard for Android… 😊 If I manage to make a key 
file for it and it works I shear it here if anyone wants to use there's with 
Android.


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From: Ralph Corderoy<mailto:ra...@inputplus.co.uk>
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎22‎ ‎August‎ ‎2019 ‎11‎:‎17
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
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Hi Nick,

> I plugged it into my PC just to see if it works ,I need it to work on
> Andriod, is there a way of mapping the keys on that, its Android
> 4.4.4…?

That's more of an Android question, you may be better off asking
somewhere else.  Google suggests things like
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpyra-handheld.com%2Fboards%2Fthreads%2Ftutorial-how-to-remap-android-hardware-keys.69593%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5fb615a9f08b4ef2c9b808d726e9fb70%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637020658691998236&sdata=cM3isLd%2FMsP760WSWNHJdCfBwZ4ehsZinGlbTykWzv4%3D&reserved=0
so it looks possible.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Anyone know the Pinout of the Amstrad E3 Videophone Mailboard

[Nick Griffin]

Its funny realy Android is Linux and the E3 run on Linux… 😊

I am using a app called Keyboard/Button Mapper its on Google Play got it from 
XDA,It works but the keys don’t work properly in games or Emulators so just 
looked it up and I need to make a .kl Keyboard layout file for it so it knows 
where the keys are.
Anyone made a keyboard layout file, it works the same way in Linux, Android 
uses the same layout files..? this is the app… 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.github.sds100.keymapper&rdid=io.github.sds100.keymapper

Ok just relised you answered this question already.. 😊

The Mailboard a good little keyboard for Android… 😊 If I manage to make a key 
file for it and it works I shear it here if anyone wants to use there's with 
Android.


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From: Ralph Corderoy
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎22‎ ‎August‎ ‎2019 ‎11‎:‎17
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software

Hi Nick,

> I plugged it into my PC just to see if it works ,I need it to work on
> Andriod, is there a way of mapping the keys on that, its Android
> 4.4.4…?

That's more of an Android question, you may be better off asking
somewhere else.  Google suggests things like
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpyra-handheld.com%2Fboards%2Fthreads%2Ftutorial-how-to-remap-android-hardware-keys.69593%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5fb615a9f08b4ef2c9b808d726e9fb70%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637020658691998236&sdata=cM3isLd%2FMsP760WSWNHJdCfBwZ4ehsZinGlbTykWzv4%3D&reserved=0
so it looks possible.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Anyone know the Pinout of the Amstrad E3 Videophone Mailboard

[Nick Griffin]

I plugged it into my PC just to see if it works ,I need it to work on Andriod, 
is there a way of mapping the keys on that, its Android 4.4.4…?

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From: Antony Stone<mailto:antony.st...@e3.open.source.it>
Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎21‎ ‎August‎ ‎2019 ‎20‎:‎15
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On Wednesday 21 August 2019 at 20:39:56, Nick Griffin wrote:

> Just connected the Mailboard to a PS/2 adapter and its works on Windows but
> the keys are wrong so how would I go about changing each key to the right
> one..?

https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.makeuseof.com%2Ftag%2Fcreate-custom-keyboard-layout-windows%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc3b3bccf939048af03f008d7266be258%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637020117130312902&sdata=su0ITBGFu5lR6wYKejkaHXTeu%2FMw%2F9h6cCq9N146vuA%3D&reserved=0
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helpful to me.


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Re: [E3-hacking] Anyone know the Pinout of the Amstrad E3 Videophone Mailboard

[Nick Griffin]

Just connected the Mailboard to a PS/2 adapter and its works on Windows but the 
keys are wrong so how would I go about changing each key to the right one..?

Anyone know..?

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎19‎ ‎August‎ ‎2019 ‎18‎:‎10
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Had a idea, couldn’t you use a arduino nano to made a converter for it so it 
works like a PC keyboard and put the key codes or its key map on the arduino 
nano so when you press “P” on the Mailboard “P” is on the screen…is pressed and 
so on .?
https://www.engineersgarage.com/embedded/arduino/how-to-interface-ps2-keyboard-arduino<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://www.engineersgarage.com/embedded/arduino/how-to-interface-ps2-keyboard-arduino&data=02%7c01%7c%7c05ca9946ee8a4915196d08d724c825b2%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c637018314348199389&sdata=Q0srCSSE9LrjtoRkykQugnm5Ux0a29o3EXQXZ5RXqfA%3D&reserved=0>

From: David Given<mailto:d...@cowlark.com>
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Huh, it is actually PS/2. I didn't know that.

https://github.com/octronic-uk/amstrad-mailboard<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://github.com/octronic-uk/amstrad-mailboard&data=02%7c01%7c%7c05ca9946ee8a4915196d08d724c825b2%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c637018314348209394&sdata=a6MtPv4TEx7NoHvjdYdu1IvKpf3ahvNUsUFrm0XVTTU%3D&reserved=0>


On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 17:26, Nick Griffin 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
Hi Long time no speak… 😊 Anyone know the pinout ,I want to connect it to a PS/2 
connector, The PS/2 connector has 6 pins when the Mailboard has 4 pins…?

Anyone..?

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Re: [E3-hacking] Anyone know the Pinout of the Amstrad E3 Videophone Mailboard

[Nick Griffin]

Had a idea, couldn’t you use a arduino nano to made a converter for it so it 
works like a PC keyboard and put the key codes or its key map on the arduino 
nano so when you press “P” on the Mailboard “P” is on the screen…is pressed and 
so on .?
https://www.engineersgarage.com/embedded/arduino/how-to-interface-ps2-keyboard-arduino

From: David Given<mailto:d...@cowlark.com>
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Huh, it is actually PS/2. I didn't know that.

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On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 17:26, Nick Griffin 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
Hi Long time no speak… 😊 Anyone know the pinout ,I want to connect it to a PS/2 
connector, The PS/2 connector has 6 pins when the Mailboard has 4 pins…?

Anyone..?

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[E3-hacking] Anyone know the Pinout of the Amstrad E3 Videophone Mailboard

[Nick Griffin]

Hi Long time no speak… 😊 Anyone know the pinout ,I want to connect it to a PS/2 
connector, The PS/2 connector has 6 pins when the Mailboard has 4 pins…?

Anyone..?

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[E3-hacking] Who used there Emailer up until the end of the service in 2011

[Nick Griffin]

I was wondering, Did anyone use there Emailer up until the end of the service 
in 2011 on here, I must admit I didn’t, I still had a Emailer Plus in 2008 but 
my partner didn’t like the 20p charge a day for it that's like £5.20 a month 
and that's over £15 a quarter on your phone bill,.

Nick..

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[E3-hacking] What font is use on the Emailer

[Nick Griffin]

I was just wondering what font the emailer uses, all 3 models use the same 
font..?

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[E3-hacking] I have had a Idea of what the Main Software is maybe made from..

[Nick Griffin]

I was thinking what they could of used to build it and was thinking, when I 
made themes for the LG Viewty, the LG Viewty used Adobe Flash to make the home 
screen, menus and widgets, a lot of mobile phones used it at the time, that 
when Android was new and not on every phone like it is now, so why not the 
Emailer use Flash too.. 😊,if so I can re crate the Main Software home screen 
and menus and it would work on the PC to like a demo of it but would need the 
codes to the keyboard mapping so when you press setup button it would show the 
setup menu,but would Linux be able to use Flash…? I am not talking about 
Director but Adobe Flash Pro.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=opera&hs=1FE&ei=OrHJXNmIKpCsUtCzj5AF&q=adobe+flash+professional+cs3

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Re: [E3-hacking] The Pocket Dock IT..How does it work..??

[Nick Griffin]

What's the orange thing that going over the IC, that's has broken because I 
dropped it..?

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It'll be some generic microcontroller inside the blob --- there'll be no way to 
find out what without decapping it, etching with acid, and hoping that the 
designer left a model number on the silicon!

On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 at 22:51, Nick Griffin 
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There is a picture of the insides of the Pocket Dock IT its board on 
there,Can’t post it on the Mailing List.

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[E3-hacking] The Pocket Dock IT..How does it work..??

[Nick Griffin]

http://amstrad-e3-hacking.freeforums.net/thread/18/pocket-dock-work

There is a picture of the insides of the Pocket Dock IT its board on 
there,Can’t post it on the Mailing List.

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Re: [E3-hacking] List etiquette

[Nick Griffin]

OK will do..😊

I tried to post the log of me flashing the 5 mtds so its was way to big,so I 
have posted on the forum,this is when it comes in handy… 😊

http://amstrad-e3-hacking.freeforums.net/thread/17/trying-flash-amstrad-original-firmware

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From: Jonathan McDowell
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎29‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎15‎:‎30
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I've just rejected a couple of multi-megabyte messages to the list;
please don't add big attachments, there are currently 124 people on the
list and I doubt they all want to receive such big emails. Post links
where appropriate.

(Great to see a revival of interest in the E3 though, I managed to find
mine in the attic but not the PSU yet.)

J.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

No still don’t load any well. Maybe Jonathan could help…? I don’t have a 
clue.

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎24‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎19‎:‎39
To: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>

I try again with the images with the oob in them and see if that works.

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
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Yes we need Jonathan I think, he understands this more.. I think he gave 
the code to remove it so you could look at the data in the files better by hex.

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
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I  think it needs the OOB data in the image.
Just looked on the net about ,it say…

How does this combination of nandsim, nandwrite and nandddump decide which ECC 
scheme to use? The flash is from a TI AM335 system, and as far as I know, the 
ECC scheme is decided by a combination of the processor and OS. How do these 
utilities know what to do?


First of all the ECC scheme used does not necessarily have to be for all the 
flash erase blocks. There are ususally 3 different types of flash partitions 
used and for every type the method to specify the used ECC code differs:

  1.  The one that are accessed by the ROM bootcode
  2.  The ones that are accessed by the bootloader (usually u-boot)
  3.  The ones that are accessed by the operating system (assuming you are 
using Linux)

In general the use of a specific ECC method is limited by the OOB size of the 
flash. The AM335x_U-Boot_User's_Guide (cannot post link here because of 
reputation) explains it in sections BCH Flash OOB Layout and the example 
matches to the flash chip you are using. The 64 bytes per 2k page effectively 
limit the usable ECC algorithms to BCH8, BCH4 or HAMMING codes.

BCH Flash OOB Layout

For any ECC scheme we need to add some extra data while writing so as to detect 
and correct (if possible) the errors introduced by the NAND part. In case of 
BCH scheme some bytes are needed to store the ECC related info.

The section of NAND memory where addition info like ECC data is stored is 
referred to as Out Of Band or OOB section.

The first 2 bytes are used for Bad block marker – 0x => Good block

The next ‘N’ bytes is used for BCH bytes

N = B * Number of 512-byte sectors in a page

B = 8 bytes per 512 byte sector in BCH4 B = 14 bytes per 512 byte sector in 
BCH8 B = 26 bytes per 512 byte sector in BCH16

So for a 2k page-size NAND flash with 64-byte OOB size, we will use BCH8. This 
will consume 2 + (14*4) = 58 bytes out of 64 bytes available.

ECC used by ROM bootcode

The AM335x processor's ROM bootcode decides which ECC scheme to use for NAND 
flash depending on the mechanism expalined in the AM335x technical reference 
manual chapter 26.1.7.4 NAND

ECC Correction The default ECC correction applied is BCH 8b/sector using the 
GPMC and ELM hardware. For device ID codes D3h, C3h, D5h, C5h, D7h, C7h, DEh, 
CEh when manufacturer code (first ID byte) is 98h the Cell type information is 
checked in the 4th byte of ID data. If it is equal to 10b then the ECC 
correction applied is BCH 16b/sector. In addition ECC computation done by the 
ROM can be turned off completely by using SYSBOOT[9]. This is particularly 
useful when interfacing with NAND devices that have built in ECC engines.

Other ways to control the ECC behavior are ONFI or and I2C EEPROM but the 
H27U1G8F2BTR datasheet does not mention ONFI so I guess it is not supported by 
the flash chip.

So basically BCH8 or BCH16 or no ECC mechanism is used for the first 128K the 
ROM bootloader reads from NAND flash.

ECC used by the bootloader

The bootloader decides this on his own. For example for U-boot this information 
is compiled into u-boot and the first level bootloader (SPL/MLO) as well. The 
information is controlled by U-Boot configuration settings set at compile time. 
Recent versions of U-boot can switch the ecc at runtime using the nandecc 
command.

ECC used by the OS

The selection is completely OS specific. For Linux embedded systems using 
AM335x processors I know that this information is passed into the kernel using 
the device tree.

Which ECC method does nandsim use

There is a parameter called bch which can be passed to the nandsim module to 
select an ecc code. From the code I guess It is initialized to zero so it won't 
use any ECC code. So it seems that nandsim can use BCH8 and BCH16 but only one 
for the whole flash that is simulated.

modprobe nandsim bch=8 first_id_byte=0xad second_id_byte=0xf1 
third_id_byte=0x00 fourth_id_byte=0x1d

Which ECC method does nanddump/nandwrite use

Ag

Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

I  think it needs the OOB data in the image.
Just looked on the net about ,it say…

How does this combination of nandsim, nandwrite and nandddump decide which ECC 
scheme to use? The flash is from a TI AM335 system, and as far as I know, the 
ECC scheme is decided by a combination of the processor and OS. How do these 
utilities know what to do?


First of all the ECC scheme used does not necessarily have to be for all the 
flash erase blocks. There are ususally 3 different types of flash partitions 
used and for every type the method to specify the used ECC code differs:

  1.  The one that are accessed by the ROM bootcode
  2.  The ones that are accessed by the bootloader (usually u-boot)
  3.  The ones that are accessed by the operating system (assuming you are 
using Linux)

In general the use of a specific ECC method is limited by the OOB size of the 
flash. The AM335x_U-Boot_User's_Guide (cannot post link here because of 
reputation) explains it in sections BCH Flash OOB Layout and the example 
matches to the flash chip you are using. The 64 bytes per 2k page effectively 
limit the usable ECC algorithms to BCH8, BCH4 or HAMMING codes.

BCH Flash OOB Layout

For any ECC scheme we need to add some extra data while writing so as to detect 
and correct (if possible) the errors introduced by the NAND part. In case of 
BCH scheme some bytes are needed to store the ECC related info.

The section of NAND memory where addition info like ECC data is stored is 
referred to as Out Of Band or OOB section.

The first 2 bytes are used for Bad block marker – 0x => Good block

The next ‘N’ bytes is used for BCH bytes

N = B * Number of 512-byte sectors in a page

B = 8 bytes per 512 byte sector in BCH4 B = 14 bytes per 512 byte sector in 
BCH8 B = 26 bytes per 512 byte sector in BCH16

So for a 2k page-size NAND flash with 64-byte OOB size, we will use BCH8. This 
will consume 2 + (14*4) = 58 bytes out of 64 bytes available.

ECC used by ROM bootcode

The AM335x processor's ROM bootcode decides which ECC scheme to use for NAND 
flash depending on the mechanism expalined in the AM335x technical reference 
manual chapter 26.1.7.4 NAND

ECC Correction The default ECC correction applied is BCH 8b/sector using the 
GPMC and ELM hardware. For device ID codes D3h, C3h, D5h, C5h, D7h, C7h, DEh, 
CEh when manufacturer code (first ID byte) is 98h the Cell type information is 
checked in the 4th byte of ID data. If it is equal to 10b then the ECC 
correction applied is BCH 16b/sector. In addition ECC computation done by the 
ROM can be turned off completely by using SYSBOOT[9]. This is particularly 
useful when interfacing with NAND devices that have built in ECC engines.

Other ways to control the ECC behavior are ONFI or and I2C EEPROM but the 
H27U1G8F2BTR datasheet does not mention ONFI so I guess it is not supported by 
the flash chip.

So basically BCH8 or BCH16 or no ECC mechanism is used for the first 128K the 
ROM bootloader reads from NAND flash.

ECC used by the bootloader

The bootloader decides this on his own. For example for U-boot this information 
is compiled into u-boot and the first level bootloader (SPL/MLO) as well. The 
information is controlled by U-Boot configuration settings set at compile time. 
Recent versions of U-boot can switch the ecc at runtime using the nandecc 
command.

ECC used by the OS

The selection is completely OS specific. For Linux embedded systems using 
AM335x processors I know that this information is passed into the kernel using 
the device tree.

Which ECC method does nandsim use

There is a parameter called bch which can be passed to the nandsim module to 
select an ecc code. From the code I guess It is initialized to zero so it won't 
use any ECC code. So it seems that nandsim can use BCH8 and BCH16 but only one 
for the whole flash that is simulated.

modprobe nandsim bch=8 first_id_byte=0xad second_id_byte=0xf1 
third_id_byte=0x00 fourth_id_byte=0x1d

Which ECC method does nanddump/nandwrite use

Again, this depends on the OS/Linux you used to dump the flash. Similar to the 
nandsim module real mtd drivers have ways to specify the used ECC scheme 
(kernel parameters, device tree). But you can instruct nanddump to ignore the 
ECC information, too.

References

  *   AM335x technical reference manual http://www.ti.com/lit/gpn/am3359
  *   bch Linux Kernel parameter for nandsim 
http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/mtd/nand/nandsim.c#L175
  *   The AM335x_U-Boot_User's_Guide





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From: Ralph Corderoy
Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎24‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎18‎:‎30
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Hi Nick,

> I copied it twice not

What's the output of copying it once?

> Amstrad Delta - PBL V4.9 Build:1311 Assert Debug ICE
> PBL 32MB NAND
> 0MB.-->MEMv01.00.002,CopyLim=0022h,CodeEnd=0140h-->PBL..1MB...2MB*

What if you try reading ou

Re: [E3-hacking] E1

[Nick Griffin]

I noticed you were talking about the E1 and the Pocket Dock IT, How far did 
your investigations get with the E1..?

Does anyone know how the Pocket Dock IT works and the slot it connects to on 
the E-mailer(E1/2/3) I ask this because you can use the Pocket Dock IT to copy 
the Configuration Change Set Up from one E-mailer to another E-mailer but has 
to be the same model and activated. I was wondering how it copies the setup 
over to the Pocket Dock IT and back, if we could interface with the dock or 
Pocket Dock IT we could maybe save the setup from the E-mailer or Pocket Dock 
IT to the PC.

If the batteries in the Pocket Dock IT run out, the setup from the E-mailer 
gets deleted.

Just a idea..??

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

Ok so PBL boots from mtd3 partition first then so maybe its not flashing mtd3 
properly…??

If you can see the data from the images I made then the data is there so what 
the hell it going on, why will it not boot up, just a black screen..??

Just found a site on info about NAND .. might be interesting reading.. 

NAND data - Memory Technology Device (MTD) Subsystem for Linux


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From: Ralph Corderoy
Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎28‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎13‎:‎44
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Hi Nick,

> Does anyone know what mtd partition this line is from…
> System module loader - LDR V1.5 Build:0008 Assert

$ LC_ALL=C grep -boa 'LDR V1.5 Build:0008 Assert' e3-nand-backup.?
e3-nand-backup.3:18472:LDR V1.5 Build:0008 Assert
$

18472 is the zero-based byte offset.

That's the same file with the Q;Q; for LDR.

$ qq() {
> LC_ALL=C perl -0777ne 'print $& while /Q;Q;.{0,32}/gs' "$@" |
> hexdump -ve '36/1 "%_p" "\n"';
> }
$
$ for f in e3-nand-backup.?; do
> qq $f | grep LDR | sed "s/^/$f /"
> done
e3-nand-backup.3 Q;Q;Hf..LDR.
$

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

Does anyone know what mtd partition this line is from…

System module loader - LDR V1.5 Build:0008 Assert

Its the first line that comes up in the boot log after Amstrad Delta - PBL V4.9 
… , after I flash the mtdx it only comes up with Amstrad Delta - PBL V4.9 … 
than stops at 2MB* and no splash screen, just a black screen..?

Amstrad Delta - PBL V4.9 Build:1311 Assert Debug ICE
PBL 32MB NAND
0MB.-->MEMv01.00.002,CopyLim=0022h,CodeEnd=0140h-->PBL..1MB...2MB*


System module loader - LDR V1.5 Build:0008 Assert
Mod scan 10010100 to 10230100
MEM - 10024000 (flash 00404000)
PARMS - 10024400 (flash 00404400)
LDR - 10024800 (flash 00404800)
LINUX - 10044000 (flash 00424000)
num modules: 4

I am trying to work out what mtd it looks at first, mtd0 …?

It looks like to me that its flashing it back to the NAND wrong and that why 
its not booting, this is why I need someone to test it who knows what they are 
doing and knows about flashing to mtd partitions ..?

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
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I need someone on here who knows what there are doing flashing the Amstrad 
firmware back on the E3.

Has anyone still got there E3 on here but only if you have flashed E3 Linux on 
it already then you can test trying flashing Amstrad E3 Original Firmware back 
and see it you can get it working, More people doing it would be better because 
one of us might get it working.

And I might of missed something you might find.. 😊

Any one willing to do this..?

Mine don’t go anywhere it don’t even get to this line …

System module loader - LDR V1.5 Build:0008 Assert

What am I missing…??

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
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>So, does that mean you have two now?

Yes I have 2 E3 now.. lol

>What do you mean by "reset"?

I mean if you hold Down Delete, Stop and Handfree when you boot up the E3 it 
puts in back to factory defaults where you have to register it and says” Press 
the [Email] button to get connected”

>Please remind me what this "trick" is?

With the Main Software V2 if its deactivated you could lift hand set and press 
and hold email down until it says aborting email please wait.. and it would 
activate the phone, it don’t work on V4.

>I disagree - a comparison (especially of the boot loader, not necessarily the
main software) could be instructive.

I can copy the firmware if you want it and share it…?

>You mean copying the firmware for interest's sake, or with the idea of copying
from the E1/E2 to the E3?
No copying the firmware from the E1/E2 to copy it back to a E1/E2 that's 
deactivated to activate them.

>Why do you always write this at the end of your emails?

Spanner is my name, My real name is Nick, I have not been called Nick for about 
15 years. Last person to call me Nick was my mum, she died 15 years ago in 
2004. I go by Spanner or Span now… 😊

Its a nickname I got at school, my partner started calling me it because I am 
good at working things out or fixing things then I started to use it as a 
username online.

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From: Antony Stone<mailto:antony.st...@e3.open.source.it>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎26‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎21‎:‎31
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On Friday 26 April 2019 at 22:01:29, Nick Griffin wrote:

> Ok thanks,I got my new E3 today

So, does that mean you have two now?

> and the seller told me it was working and able to make a call on it before I
> bought it and its unregistered so deactivated…

Sounds good so far...

> dam it.. ☹ ,he said to me he don’t understand how it was reset when it was
> working…???

What do you mean by "reset"?

> Its Main Software is V4 so the dial for email trick don’t work.

Please remind me what this "trick" is?

> so no point in copying the firmware

I disagree - a comparison (especially of the boot loader, not necessarily the
main software) could be instructive.

> but I am glad I have the clock back,

Be thankful for small mercies :))

> Has anyone have a idea of copying the firmware on the E1 or E2,

You mean copying the firmware for interest's sake, or with the idea of copying
from the E1/E2 to the E3?

I really doubt that E1/E2 firmware would work on an E3.  Different CPUs, for a
start.

> I have a E1 that activated too now.. 😊I don’t know how the E1/E2 E-mailers
> OS work maybe someone can explain, well it not Linux like E3 so what does it
> use..?

Remember that there was a day when people wrote fi

Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

I need someone on here who knows what there are doing flashing the Amstrad 
firmware back on the E3.

Has anyone still got there E3 on here but only if you have flashed E3 Linux on 
it already then you can test trying flashing Amstrad E3 Original Firmware back 
and see it you can get it working, More people doing it would be better because 
one of us might get it working.

And I might of missed something you might find.. 😊

Any one willing to do this..?

Mine don’t go anywhere it don’t even get to this line …

System module loader - LDR V1.5 Build:0008 Assert

What am I missing…??

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
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>So, does that mean you have two now?

Yes I have 2 E3 now.. lol

>What do you mean by "reset"?

I mean if you hold Down Delete, Stop and Handfree when you boot up the E3 it 
puts in back to factory defaults where you have to register it and says” Press 
the [Email] button to get connected”

>Please remind me what this "trick" is?

With the Main Software V2 if its deactivated you could lift hand set and press 
and hold email down until it says aborting email please wait.. and it would 
activate the phone, it don’t work on V4.

>I disagree - a comparison (especially of the boot loader, not necessarily the
main software) could be instructive.

I can copy the firmware if you want it and share it…?

>You mean copying the firmware for interest's sake, or with the idea of copying
from the E1/E2 to the E3?
No copying the firmware from the E1/E2 to copy it back to a E1/E2 that's 
deactivated to activate them.

>Why do you always write this at the end of your emails?

Spanner is my name, My real name is Nick, I have not been called Nick for about 
15 years. Last person to call me Nick was my mum, she died 15 years ago in 
2004. I go by Spanner or Span now… 😊

Its a nickname I got at school, my partner started calling me it because I am 
good at working things out or fixing things then I started to use it as a 
username online.

Spanner..

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From: Antony Stone<mailto:antony.st...@e3.open.source.it>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎26‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎21‎:‎31
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On Friday 26 April 2019 at 22:01:29, Nick Griffin wrote:

> Ok thanks,I got my new E3 today

So, does that mean you have two now?

> and the seller told me it was working and able to make a call on it before I
> bought it and its unregistered so deactivated…

Sounds good so far...

> dam it.. ☹ ,he said to me he don’t understand how it was reset when it was
> working…???

What do you mean by "reset"?

> Its Main Software is V4 so the dial for email trick don’t work.

Please remind me what this "trick" is?

> so no point in copying the firmware

I disagree - a comparison (especially of the boot loader, not necessarily the
main software) could be instructive.

> but I am glad I have the clock back,

Be thankful for small mercies :))

> Has anyone have a idea of copying the firmware on the E1 or E2,

You mean copying the firmware for interest's sake, or with the idea of copying
from the E1/E2 to the E3?

I really doubt that E1/E2 firmware would work on an E3.  Different CPUs, for a
start.

> I have a E1 that activated too now.. 😊I don’t know how the E1/E2 E-mailers
> OS work maybe someone can explain, well it not Linux like E3 so what does it
> use..?

Remember that there was a day when people wrote firmware for devices from
scratch, without using an "operating system".  It's only since the days when
embedded devices like wireless routers, telephones, televisions etc have had
enough CPU and RAM to run Linux that this has been a simpler starting point.

> Spanner..

Why do you always write this at the end of your emails?


Regards,


Antony.

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[E3-hacking] How about the E3 screen as a Picture Frame..?

[Nick Griffin]

So you can show pictures and video on the screen, there is info here about it 
here on how to do it on a laptop.. 
http://www.amusings.com/linux-powered-digital-picture-frame/  There is nothing 
on how to do it on a E3, well there wouldn’t be, if anyone can give me some 
points on how to do this,but I don’t want to take the E3 a part just add the 
software to make it act like a Digital Picture Frame.

One way of recycling it..😠

Oh.. I am at the moment making one of the adverts that were on the E3,I am 
rebuilding the AOL advert, its the one in red and white and say AOL.. One Month 
Free, because I found it but its too small. I going to make more..😊 It funny it 
say on the advert in small writing that a PC in required… lol

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
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>So, does that mean you have two now?

Yes I have 2 E3 now.. lol

>What do you mean by "reset"?

I mean if you hold Down Delete, Stop and Handfree when you boot up the E3 it 
puts in back to factory defaults where you have to register it and says” Press 
the [Email] button to get connected”

>Please remind me what this "trick" is?

With the Main Software V2 if its deactivated you could lift hand set and press 
and hold email down until it says aborting email please wait.. and it would 
activate the phone, it don’t work on V4.

>I disagree - a comparison (especially of the boot loader, not necessarily the
main software) could be instructive.

I can copy the firmware if you want it and share it…?

>You mean copying the firmware for interest's sake, or with the idea of copying
from the E1/E2 to the E3?
No copying the firmware from the E1/E2 to copy it back to a E1/E2 that's 
deactivated to activate them.

>Why do you always write this at the end of your emails?

Spanner is my name, My real name is Nick, I have not been called Nick for about 
15 years. Last person to call me Nick was my mum, she died 15 years ago in 
2004. I go by Spanner or Span now… 😊

Its a nickname I got at school, my partner started calling me it because I am 
good at working things out or fixing things then I started to use it as a 
username online.

Spanner..

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From: Antony Stone<mailto:antony.st...@e3.open.source.it>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎26‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎21‎:‎31
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
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On Friday 26 April 2019 at 22:01:29, Nick Griffin wrote:

> Ok thanks,I got my new E3 today

So, does that mean you have two now?

> and the seller told me it was working and able to make a call on it before I
> bought it and its unregistered so deactivated…

Sounds good so far...

> dam it.. ☹ ,he said to me he don’t understand how it was reset when it was
> working…???

What do you mean by "reset"?

> Its Main Software is V4 so the dial for email trick don’t work.

Please remind me what this "trick" is?

> so no point in copying the firmware

I disagree - a comparison (especially of the boot loader, not necessarily the
main software) could be instructive.

> but I am glad I have the clock back,

Be thankful for small mercies :))

> Has anyone have a idea of copying the firmware on the E1 or E2,

You mean copying the firmware for interest's sake, or with the idea of copying
from the E1/E2 to the E3?

I really doubt that E1/E2 firmware would work on an E3.  Different CPUs, for a
start.

> I have a E1 that activated too now.. 😊I don’t know how the E1/E2 E-mailers
> OS work maybe someone can explain, well it not Linux like E3 so what does it
> use..?

Remember that there was a day when people wrote firmware for devices from
scratch, without using an "operating system".  It's only since the days when
embedded devices like wireless routers, telephones, televisions etc have had
enough CPU and RAM to run Linux that this has been a simpler starting point.

> Spanner..

Why do you always write this at the end of your emails?


Regards,


Antony.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

>So, does that mean you have two now?

Yes I have 2 E3 now.. lol

>What do you mean by "reset"?

I mean if you hold Down Delete, Stop and Handfree when you boot up the E3 it 
puts in back to factory defaults where you have to register it and says” Press 
the [Email] button to get connected”

>Please remind me what this "trick" is?

With the Main Software V2 if its deactivated you could lift hand set and press 
and hold email down until it says aborting email please wait.. and it would 
activate the phone, it don’t work on V4.

>I disagree - a comparison (especially of the boot loader, not necessarily the
main software) could be instructive.

I can copy the firmware if you want it and share it…?

>You mean copying the firmware for interest's sake, or with the idea of copying
from the E1/E2 to the E3?
No copying the firmware from the E1/E2 to copy it back to a E1/E2 that's 
deactivated to activate them.

>Why do you always write this at the end of your emails?

Spanner is my name, My real name is Nick, I have not been called Nick for about 
15 years. Last person to call me Nick was my mum, she died 15 years ago in 
2004. I go by Spanner or Span now… 😊

Its a nickname I got at school, my partner started calling me it because I am 
good at working things out or fixing things then I started to use it as a 
username online.

Spanner..

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From: Antony Stone<mailto:antony.st...@e3.open.source.it>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎26‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎21‎:‎31
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

On Friday 26 April 2019 at 22:01:29, Nick Griffin wrote:

> Ok thanks,I got my new E3 today

So, does that mean you have two now?

> and the seller told me it was working and able to make a call on it before I
> bought it and its unregistered so deactivated…

Sounds good so far...

> dam it.. ☹ ,he said to me he don’t understand how it was reset when it was
> working…???

What do you mean by "reset"?

> Its Main Software is V4 so the dial for email trick don’t work.

Please remind me what this "trick" is?

> so no point in copying the firmware

I disagree - a comparison (especially of the boot loader, not necessarily the
main software) could be instructive.

> but I am glad I have the clock back,

Be thankful for small mercies :))

> Has anyone have a idea of copying the firmware on the E1 or E2,

You mean copying the firmware for interest's sake, or with the idea of copying
from the E1/E2 to the E3?

I really doubt that E1/E2 firmware would work on an E3.  Different CPUs, for a
start.

> I have a E1 that activated too now.. 😊I don’t know how the E1/E2 E-mailers
> OS work maybe someone can explain, well it not Linux like E3 so what does it
> use..?

Remember that there was a day when people wrote firmware for devices from
scratch, without using an "operating system".  It's only since the days when
embedded devices like wireless routers, telephones, televisions etc have had
enough CPU and RAM to run Linux that this has been a simpler starting point.

> Spanner..

Why do you always write this at the end of your emails?


Regards,


Antony.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

just found this about bad blocks on the NAND.. 
https://e2e.ti.com/support/legacy_forums/embedded/linux/f/354/t/457249

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From: Ralph Corderoy
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎25‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎13‎:‎25
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Hi Nick,

> As its flashing to the Nand it is reporting bad blocks but still
> flashing the image, its missing some of them so not flashing them all
> over to the Nand.

You could try adding the -m option to nandwrite to mark the bad blocks.
nandwrite -mn $dev $f
But it's risky.  I don't know if it's the correct thing to do, and if it
needlessly marks blocks as bad for some reason, I don't know how to
cancel that, though I assume it's possible.

In short, you're outside the scope of what I know.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

Ok thanks,I got my new E3 today and the seller told me it was working and able 
to make a call on it before I bought it and its unregistered so deactivated…dam 
it.. ☹ ,he said to me he don’t understand how it was reset when it was 
working…??? Well it can do it by itself without you pressing Delete,Stop and 
Handsfree at boot up….lol
Its Main Software is V4 so the dial for email trick don’t work. so no point in 
copying the firmware but I am glad I have the clock back, I do like the look of 
the firmware on the E3.. 😊 Well its my clock now. Its a shame, I never buy 
another E3 again unless I see it working(picture of its screen) and it 
activated or have CC on it, but trying to get one that has CC on it is like 
looking for a needle in a haystack..lol

Has anyone have a idea of copying the firmware on the E1 or E2, I have a E1 
that activated too now.. 😊I don’t know how the E1/E2 E-mailers OS work maybe 
someone can explain, well it not Linux like E3 so what does it use..?

Spanner..

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From: Ralph Corderoy
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎25‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎13‎:‎25
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software

Hi Nick,

> As its flashing to the Nand it is reporting bad blocks but still
> flashing the image, its missing some of them so not flashing them all
> over to the Nand.

You could try adding the -m option to nandwrite to mark the bad blocks.
nandwrite -mn $dev $f
But it's risky.  I don't know if it's the correct thing to do, and if it
needlessly marks blocks as bad for some reason, I don't know how to
cancel that, though I assume it's possible.

In short, you're outside the scope of what I know.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

>What if you try reading out the flash.  Do you get what you put in?
>`cmp foo bar' compares all the bytes in those two files and complains if
>any differ.

Just noticed what you wrote, how do I do this,flash the Nand then after its 
done it type >`cmp foo bar' ..?

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
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As its flashing to the Nand it is reporting bad blocks but still flashing the 
image, its missing some of them so not flashing them all over to the Nand. I 
think mtd 5 it said “ image don’t fit because of bad blocks” I just don’t have 
a clue.

Spanner..

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
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All it does is show the PBL line on terminal and a black screen on the E3 and 
nothing else, its like it can’t get past it.

Spanner..

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From: Ralph Corderoy<mailto:ra...@inputplus.co.uk>
Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎24‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎18‎:‎30
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Hi Nick,

> I copied it twice not

What's the output of copying it once?

> Amstrad Delta - PBL V4.9 Build:1311 Assert Debug ICE
> PBL 32MB NAND
> 0MB.-->MEMv01.00.002,CopyLim=0022h,CodeEnd=0140h-->PBL..1MB...2MB*

What if you try reading out the flash.  Do you get what you put in?
`cmp foo bar' compares all the bytes in those two files and complains if
any differ.

Otherwise, I think you'll have to wait for someone that knows mtd to
come along and offer suggestions.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

As its flashing to the Nand it is reporting bad blocks but still flashing the 
image, its missing some of them so not flashing them all over to the Nand. I 
think mtd 5 it said “ image don’t fit because of bad blocks” I just don’t have 
a clue.

Spanner..

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
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All it does is show the PBL line on terminal and a black screen on the E3 and 
nothing else, its like it can’t get past it.

Spanner..

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From: Ralph Corderoy<mailto:ra...@inputplus.co.uk>
Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎24‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎18‎:‎30
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Hi Nick,

> I copied it twice not

What's the output of copying it once?

> Amstrad Delta - PBL V4.9 Build:1311 Assert Debug ICE
> PBL 32MB NAND
> 0MB.-->MEMv01.00.002,CopyLim=0022h,CodeEnd=0140h-->PBL..1MB...2MB*

What if you try reading out the flash.  Do you get what you put in?
`cmp foo bar' compares all the bytes in those two files and complains if
any differ.

Otherwise, I think you'll have to wait for someone that knows mtd to
come along and offer suggestions.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

All it does is show the PBL line on terminal and a black screen on the E3 and 
nothing else, its like it can’t get past it.

Spanner..

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From: Ralph Corderoy
Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎24‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎18‎:‎30
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Hi Nick,

> I copied it twice not

What's the output of copying it once?

> Amstrad Delta - PBL V4.9 Build:1311 Assert Debug ICE
> PBL 32MB NAND
> 0MB.-->MEMv01.00.002,CopyLim=0022h,CodeEnd=0140h-->PBL..1MB...2MB*

What if you try reading out the flash.  Do you get what you put in?
`cmp foo bar' compares all the bytes in those two files and complains if
any differ.

Otherwise, I think you'll have to wait for someone that knows mtd to
come along and offer suggestions.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

I copied it twice not and still getting..

Amstrad Delta - PBL V4.9 Build:1311 Assert Debug ICE
PBL 32MB NAND
0MB.-->MEMv01.00.002,CopyLim=0022h,CodeEnd=0140h-->PBL..1MB...2MB*



and that's it…??

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From: Ralph Corderoy
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Hi Nick,

> Starting restore.. This might take a while...
> found /media/sda1/e3-nand.0
> erasing 224 on /dev/mtd0
> Erase Total 224 Units
> Performing Flash Erase of length 16384 at offset 0x37c000 done offset 0x1f8000
> writing flash
> Input file is not page aligned

That's nandwrite detecting the file's length means it doesn't contain a
whole number of what it expects.

> Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks

That's just a secondary error caused by the first that can be ignored;
a bug in nandwrite.

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 says -o
means image contains OOB data, but we've stripped it out so the
nandwrite -on $dev $f
you have needs to be
nandwrite -n $dev $f

That's assuming it's okay to write the data without the OOB part;
I don't know about mtd but that's the implication I picked up from
earlier in this thread.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

Ignor last message,silly me..looks like the backup didn’t flash on to the nand..

Starting restore.. This might take a while...
found /media/sda1/e3-nand.0
erasing 224 on /dev/mtd0
Erase Total 224 Units
Performing Flash Erase of length 16384 at offset 0x37c000 done offset 0x1f8000
writing flash
Input file is not page aligned
Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks

What bad blocks…? Input file is not page aligned…???

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What code would I add to the erase code to add the 5 backup images to nandwrite 
to nand..?

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Code works but didn’t realise the code don’t have nandwrite to write the 5 
backup files to the nand… lol

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OK try it in about hour busy at the moment. My other E3 is on it way… 😊

I have added the new script..

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Hi Nick,

> Changed…

Looks good enough to try to me, based on your original.

> echo "Type Reboot or unplug E3 to see if the Amstrad E3 Splash Screen"

It's `reboot' that needs typing as command names on Linux are case
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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

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What code would I add to the erase code to add the 5 backup images to nandwrite 
to nand..?

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Code works but didn’t realise the code don’t have nandwrite to write the 5 
backup files to the nand… lol

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OK try it in about hour busy at the moment. My other E3 is on it way… 😊

I have added the new script..

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Hi Nick,

> Changed…

Looks good enough to try to me, based on your original.

> echo "Type Reboot or unplug E3 to see if the Amstrad E3 Splash Screen"

It's `reboot' that needs typing as command names on Linux are case
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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

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Code works but didn’t realise the code don’t have nandwrite to write the 5 
backup files to the nand… lol

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I have added the new script..

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Hi Nick,

> Changed…

Looks good enough to try to me, based on your original.

> echo "Type Reboot or unplug E3 to see if the Amstrad E3 Splash Screen"

It's `reboot' that needs typing as command names on Linux are case
sensitive.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

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OK try it in about hour busy at the moment. My other E3 is on it way… 😊

I have added the new script..

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Hi Nick,

> Changed…

Looks good enough to try to me, based on your original.

> echo "Type Reboot or unplug E3 to see if the Amstrad E3 Splash Screen"

It's `reboot' that needs typing as command names on Linux are case
sensitive.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

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Changed…

#!/bin/sh

if (! grep -q /dev/sda1 /proc/mounts); then
 echo "No install media mounted; couldn't find /dev/sda in /proc/mounts"
 exit 1;
fi

echo

echo "This process will completely restore your E3's NAND."
echo This will try and restore The Amstrad firmware on the device. Are you
echo -n "sure you wish to continue? [y/N]: "

read i

if [ ! "x$i" = "xy" -a ! "x$i" = "xY" ]; then
 echo
 echo Aborting.
 exit 1
fi

echo
echo Starting restore.. This might take a while...

perhaps_write_flash()
{
p=${1?} erase=${2?}
f=/media/sda1/e3-nand.$p
dev=/dev/mtd$p

test -e $f || return

echo found $f
echo erasing $erase on $dev
flash_erase $dev 0 $erase
echo writing flash
nandwrite -on $dev $f
}

 perhaps_write_flash 0 224
  perhaps_write_flash 1 16
  perhaps_write_flash 2 16
  perhaps_write_flash 3 16
  perhaps_write_flash 4 1728
  perhaps_write_flash 5 48


echo "Finished restoring the Amstrad E3 Firmware,"
echo "Type Reboot or unplug E3 to see if the Amstrad E3 Splash Screen"
echo "comes up (Fingers Crossed) If not just reinstall E3 Linux with the"
echo "pbltool with the -n in the line to stop Handshaking otherwise it will"
echo "not find PBL V4.9 Build:1311 bootloader."

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Hi Nick,

> is this right…??
>
> perhaps_write_flash()
> {
> p=${1?} erase=${2?}
> f=/media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.$p
> dev=/dev/mtd$p
>
> test -e $f || return
>
> echo found $f
> echo erasing $erase on $dev
> flash_erase $dev 0 $erase
> echo writing flash
> nandwrite -on $dev $f
> }

That bit is.

> perhaps_write_flash 0 224
> perhaps_write_flash 0 16
> perhaps_write_flash 0 16
> perhaps_write_flash 0 16
> perhaps_write_flash 0 1728
> perhaps_write_flash 0 48

The function takes two parameters, in $1 and $2 at the start.
The first parameter, copied into p, is the partition number,
and so it needs to go 0, 1, ...

perhaps_write_flash 0 224
perhaps_write_flash 1 16
perhaps_write_flash 2 16
perhaps_write_flash 3 16
perhaps_write_flash 4 1728
perhaps_write_flash 5 48

I also think you might want to remove the `-backup' in f's definition
near the start because your script said they were called e3-nand.0, etc.

What you've given here replaces the six blocks of if...then...fi lines
in your original script, leaving the bit before and after.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

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New code I don’t know if this is right…??

#!/bin/sh

if (! grep -q /dev/sda1 /proc/mounts); then
 echo "No install media mounted; couldn't find /dev/sda in /proc/mounts"
 exit 1;
fi

echo

echo "This process will completely restore your E3's NAND."
echo This will try and restore The Amstrad firmware on the device. Are you
echo -n "sure you wish to continue? [y/N]: "

read i

if [ ! "x$i" = "xy" -a ! "x$i" = "xY" ]; then
 echo
 echo Aborting.
 exit 1
fi

echo
echo Starting restore.. This might take a while...

perhaps_write_flash()
{
p=${1?} erase=${2?}
f=/media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.$p
dev=/dev/mtd$p

test -e $f || return

echo found $f
echo erasing $erase on $dev
flash_erase $dev 0 $erase
echo writing flash
nandwrite -on $dev $f
}

 perhaps_write_flash 0 224
 perhaps_write_flash 1 16
 perhaps_write_flash 2 16
 perhaps_write_flash 3 16
 perhaps_write_flash 4 1728
 perhaps_write_flash 5 48


echo "Finished restoring the Amstrad E3 Firmware,"
echo "Type Reboot or unplug E3 to see if the Amstrad E3 Splash Screen"
echo "comes up (Fingers Crossed) If not just reinstall E3 Linux with the"
echo "pbltool with the -n in the line to stop Handshaking otherwise it will"
echo "not find PBL V4.9 Build:1311 bootloader."

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Or is this part … perhaps like this… lol

 perhaps_write_flash 0 224
 perhaps_write_flash 1 16
 perhaps_write_flash 2 16
 perhaps_write_flash 3 16
 perhaps_write_flash 4 1728
 perhaps_write_flash 5 48

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is this right…??

perhaps_write_flash()
{
p=${1?} erase=${2?}
f=/media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.$p
dev=/dev/mtd$p

test -e $f || return

echo found $f
echo erasing $erase on $dev
flash_erase $dev 0 $erase
echo writing flash
nandwrite -on $dev $f
}

perhaps_write_flash 0 224
perhaps_write_flash 0 16
 perhaps_write_flash 0 16
 perhaps_write_flash 0 16
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Hi Nick,

>  flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 224
...
>  flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 16

It always mtd0.  There's too much repetition in the code so errors like
this are likely to creep in.  Consider the approach I suggested in
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Then the `0' of mtd0, etc., it only typed once.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

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Or is this part … perhaps like this… lol

 perhaps_write_flash 0 224
 perhaps_write_flash 1 16
 perhaps_write_flash 2 16
 perhaps_write_flash 3 16
 perhaps_write_flash 4 1728
 perhaps_write_flash 5 48

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is this right…??

perhaps_write_flash()
{
p=${1?} erase=${2?}
f=/media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.$p
dev=/dev/mtd$p

test -e $f || return

echo found $f
echo erasing $erase on $dev
flash_erase $dev 0 $erase
echo writing flash
nandwrite -on $dev $f
}

perhaps_write_flash 0 224
perhaps_write_flash 0 16
 perhaps_write_flash 0 16
 perhaps_write_flash 0 16
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Hi Nick,

>  flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 224
...
>  flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 16

It always mtd0.  There's too much repetition in the code so errors like
this are likely to creep in.  Consider the approach I suggested in
https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.earth.li%2Fpipermail%2Fe3-hacking%2F2019-April%2F001314.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C3698329065b24dc1983108d6c8a3522f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63691700275025&sdata=6HxFeGP9mAKyYCGbBLR%2FyibGpJ5zDrlJKtEwH%2FpuZdk%3D&reserved=0
Then the `0' of mtd0, etc., it only typed once.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

is this right…??

perhaps_write_flash()
{
p=${1?} erase=${2?}
f=/media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.$p
dev=/dev/mtd$p

test -e $f || return

echo found $f
echo erasing $erase on $dev
flash_erase $dev 0 $erase
echo writing flash
nandwrite -on $dev $f
}

perhaps_write_flash 0 224
perhaps_write_flash 0 16
 perhaps_write_flash 0 16
 perhaps_write_flash 0 16
 perhaps_write_flash 0 1728
 perhaps_write_flash 0 48

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Hi Nick,

>  flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 224
...
>  flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 16

It always mtd0.  There's too much repetition in the code so errors like
this are likely to creep in.  Consider the approach I suggested in
https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.earth.li%2Fpipermail%2Fe3-hacking%2F2019-April%2F001314.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C3698329065b24dc1983108d6c8a3522f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63691700275025&sdata=6HxFeGP9mAKyYCGbBLR%2FyibGpJ5zDrlJKtEwH%2FpuZdk%3D&reserved=0
Then the `0' of mtd0, etc., it only typed once.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

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This is the code I made for it… so if anyone wants to try it on theres,you 
can’t damge the E3 doing it,if it don’t work it will not get past the PBL 
line,lucky they put PBL on the nor flash you can’t brick it..😊 if it don’t work 
just when using the Pbltool put -n in the line to stop it from “Probbing” and 
“handshaking” because it will not find PBL V4.9 otherwise.
And say “Probbing” forever.. 😊 and not find anything.

You have to put the script on the USB Stick and run it from it on the E3 for it 
to work.

so .. cd /media/sda1/
ams-delta-of-install

The code…
-

#!/bin/sh

if (! grep -q /dev/sda1 /proc/mounts); then
 echo "No install media mounted; couldn't find /dev/sda in /proc/mounts"
 exit 1;
fi

echo

echo "This process will completely restore your E3's NAND."
echo This will try and restore The Amstrad firmware on the device. Are you
echo -n "sure you wish to continue? [y/N]: "

read i

if [ ! "x$i" = "xy" -a ! "x$i" = "xY" ]; then
 echo
 echo Aborting.
 exit 1
fi

echo
echo Starting restore.. This might take a while...

if [ -e /media/sda1/e3-nand.0 ]; then
 echo Found e3-nand.0
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd0"
 flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 224
 echo "  Writing e3-nand.0  4mb to /dev/mtd0"
 nandwrite /dev/mtd0 /media/sda1/e3-nand.0
fi

if [ -e /media/sda1/e3-nand.1 ]; then
 echo Found e3-nand.1
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd1"
 flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 16
 echo "  Writing e3-nand-backup.1 264kb to /dev/mtd1"
 nandwrite /dev/mtd1 /media/sda1/e3-nand.1
fi

if [ -e /media/sda1/e3-nand.2 ]; then
 echo Found e3-nand.2
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd2"
 flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 16
 echo "  Writing e3-nand-backup.2 264kb to /dev/mtd2"
 nandwrite /dev/mtd2 /media/sda1/e3-nand.2
fi

if [ -e /media/sda1/e3-nand.3 ]; then
 echo Found e3-nand.3
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd3"
 flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 16
 echo "  Writing e3-nand-backup.3 264kb to /dev/mtd3"
 nandwrite /dev/mtd3 /media/sda1/e3-nand.3
fi

if [ -e /media/sda1/e3-nand.4 ]; then
 echo Found e3-nand.4
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd4"
 flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 1728
 echo "  Writing e3-nand-backup.4  32 mb to /dev/mtd4"
 nandwrite /dev/mtd4 /media/sda1/e3-nand.4
fi

if [ -e /media/sda1/e3-nand.5 ]; then
 echo Found e3-nand.5
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd5"
 flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 48
 echo "  Writing e3-nand-backup.5  792kb to /dev/mtd5"
 nandwrite /dev/mtd5 /media/sda1/e3-nand.5
fi


echo "Finished restoring the Amstrad E3 Firmware,"
echo "Type Reboot or unplug E3 to see if the Amstrad E3 Splash Screen”
echo "comes up (Fingers Crossed) If not just reinstall E3 Linux with the"
echo "pbltool with the -n in the line to stop Handshaking otherwise it will"
echo "not find PBL V4.9 Build:1311 bootloader."


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The E3 is based on an ARM reference design, isn't it? What's the feasibility of 
emulating one?

On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 11:46, Ralph Corderoy 
mailto:ra...@inputplus.co.uk>> wrote:
Hi Nick,

> > That should be possible as you have the files, now without their 16
> > bytes per 512 bytes overhead.  You need to work out how many blocks
> > to erase based on the size of each file you're trying to put back.
> > IIRC I pointed out a block is the unit of erasure and it's 16 KiB.
>
> So e3-nand.0 is 3584 KB so how many blocks go into it…? so how many
> times dose 16KB going in to 3584KB…?? I don’t know..?? I can’t divide.
> Iam a bit ok on Add not brilliant at Times but can’t do Divide.

Having stripped the excess OOB data, I have these sizes for each file in
bytes.

 3670016  e3-nand-backup.0
  262144  e3-nand-backup.1
  262144  e3-nand-backup.2
  262144  e3-nand-backup.3
28311552  e3-nand-backup.4
  786432  e3-nand-backup.5

You're right, 3,670,016 B is 3,584 KiB because
3,670,016 / 1,024 = 3,584
so 1,024 goes into 3,670,016 exactly 3,584 times.

But the size of the erase block is 16 KiB which is
16 * 1,024 = 16,384
so we want to know how many times 16,384 goes into 3,670,016.
3,670,016 / 16,384 = 224
224 is what you worked out in your other email.

Taking those six sizes above and repeating the same sum gives

 3,670,016 / 16,384 =   224
   262,144 /

Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

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Thanks btw Ralph.. 😊

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The E3 is based on an ARM reference design, isn't it? What's the feasibility of 
emulating one?

On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 11:46, Ralph Corderoy 
mailto:ra...@inputplus.co.uk>> wrote:
Hi Nick,

> > That should be possible as you have the files, now without their 16
> > bytes per 512 bytes overhead.  You need to work out how many blocks
> > to erase based on the size of each file you're trying to put back.
> > IIRC I pointed out a block is the unit of erasure and it's 16 KiB.
>
> So e3-nand.0 is 3584 KB so how many blocks go into it…? so how many
> times dose 16KB going in to 3584KB…?? I don’t know..?? I can’t divide.
> Iam a bit ok on Add not brilliant at Times but can’t do Divide.

Having stripped the excess OOB data, I have these sizes for each file in
bytes.

 3670016  e3-nand-backup.0
  262144  e3-nand-backup.1
  262144  e3-nand-backup.2
  262144  e3-nand-backup.3
28311552  e3-nand-backup.4
  786432  e3-nand-backup.5

You're right, 3,670,016 B is 3,584 KiB because
3,670,016 / 1,024 = 3,584
so 1,024 goes into 3,670,016 exactly 3,584 times.

But the size of the erase block is 16 KiB which is
16 * 1,024 = 16,384
so we want to know how many times 16,384 goes into 3,670,016.
3,670,016 / 16,384 = 224
224 is what you worked out in your other email.

Taking those six sizes above and repeating the same sum gives

 3,670,016 / 16,384 =   224
   262,144 / 16,384 =16
   262,144 / 16,384 =16
   262,144 / 16,384 =16
28,311,552 / 16,384 = 1,728
   786,432 / 16,384 =48

Now I haven't been carefully following along how to extract
e3-nand-backup.* in the first place, and how to write them back.
I'm aware there's a script involved and a command where one of the
parameters is the number of 16 KiB blocks to erase.  Hopefully, plugging
in those numbers above for each of the matching areas will work, but
it's your responsibility whether to go ahead as you're the one actually
doing all this;  I've just been sitting at a keyboard.  :-)

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

So you would put in the number 224 in the flash_erase line at the end..

flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 224

I just hope it works if it dose then we have just fixed the E3,all you need is 
a copy of the firware that's activated and when it deactives just reflash it 
again to activate it..😊

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Hi Nick,

> > That should be possible as you have the files, now without their 16
> > bytes per 512 bytes overhead.  You need to work out how many blocks
> > to erase based on the size of each file you're trying to put back.
> > IIRC I pointed out a block is the unit of erasure and it's 16 KiB.
>
> So e3-nand.0 is 3584 KB so how many blocks go into it…? so how many
> times dose 16KB going in to 3584KB…?? I don’t know..?? I can’t divide.
> Iam a bit ok on Add not brilliant at Times but can’t do Divide.

Having stripped the excess OOB data, I have these sizes for each file in
bytes.

 3670016  e3-nand-backup.0
  262144  e3-nand-backup.1
  262144  e3-nand-backup.2
  262144  e3-nand-backup.3
28311552  e3-nand-backup.4
  786432  e3-nand-backup.5

You're right, 3,670,016 B is 3,584 KiB because
3,670,016 / 1,024 = 3,584
so 1,024 goes into 3,670,016 exactly 3,584 times.

But the size of the erase block is 16 KiB which is
16 * 1,024 = 16,384
so we want to know how many times 16,384 goes into 3,670,016.
3,670,016 / 16,384 = 224
224 is what you worked out in your other email.

Taking those six sizes above and repeating the same sum gives

 3,670,016 / 16,384 =   224
   262,144 / 16,384 =16
   262,144 / 16,384 =16
   262,144 / 16,384 =16
28,311,552 / 16,384 = 1,728
   786,432 / 16,384 =48

Now I haven't been carefully following along how to extract
e3-nand-backup.* in the first place, and how to write them back.
I'm aware there's a script involved and a command where one of the
parameters is the number of 16 KiB blocks to erase.  Hopefully, plugging
in those numbers above for each of the matching areas will work, but
it's your responsibility whether to go ahead as you're the one actually
doing all this;  I've just been sitting at a keyboard.  :-)

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

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Is this right,I have just did this on my calculator 3584(KB) Divided by 16(KB) 
= 224 so 16 goes into it 224 times then it needs 224 blocks to be deleted..??

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Yeah I know Linux runs from its Kernel,it has a 2.6.19 kernel, without the 
kernel there be on Linux.. 😊 ,Windows has a kernel too.

I don't understand how to erase the blocks, I was never good at Maths that why 
I am not a programmer, I have Autism but am dyslexic too so need things said to 
me  step by step otherwise I don’t understand.

>> If I can’t put the original firmware back

That should be possible as you have the files, now without their
16 bytes per 512 bytes overhead.  You need to work out how many blocks
to erase based on the size of each file you're trying to put back.
IIRC I pointed out a block is the unit of erasure and it's 16 KiB.

So e3-nand.0 is 3584 KB so how many blocks go into it…? so how many times dose 
16KB going in to 3584KB…?? I don’t know..?? I can’t divide. Iam a bit ok on Add 
not brilliant at Times but can’t do Divide.
I was crap a Maths,I left school in 87,32 years ago… 😊 I got a 5 for Maths. 
that's a E ,…lol

Could you work it out for me, I do not know how too..?

How do I know how many files there are in each image(mtd0,1,2,3,4,5) and what 
size they are, you can’t open it like a normal partition, Dam Amstrad this will 
take forever…lol ☹

I be copying and sharing the firmware from my new E3 I am waiting for it to 
arrive, its activated.

My plan is to flash the copy of the firmware every time the E3 deactivates 
itself to activate it again, hopefully for 3 months,you see… 😊 ? My plan is to 
get all E3 working, well to the point you can use the Phone, Address Book and 
Answer Machine and that.

I still think the firmware needs hacking…😊 if we could get in and edit the 
Delta_e_live.config you could open up the whole system, that file configs the 
emailer so Amstrad could added different options in Setup(Setup Button) too 
that file so they show up, that's why some options in Setup only has like 1,2,3 
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Hi Nick,

> its just a command line version because the E3 is not powerful to run
> proper Linux.

Linux as you know it is three main parts.  There's the kernel, that's
what Linux really is, and it talks to the hardware.  Atop of that are
the user-space programs, like the shell, ls(1), etc.  They give you the
command line that many of us appreciate.  And then a bunch of user-space
programs can together provide a graphical environment with windows,
menus, etc.;  a `desktop', like Gnome, or XFCE.  Linux distributions
bundle those all up together.

So the E3 is powerful enough to run a Linux kernel, but doesn't have
enough memory to run a modern version, just as Intel 386 processors are
no longer supported.

> If I can’t put the original firmware back

That should be possible as you have the files, now without their
16 bytes per 512 bytes overhead.  You need to work out how many blocks
to erase based on the size of each file you're trying to put back.
IIRC I pointed out a block is the unit of erasure and it's 16 KiB.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

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You can get them here…  
http://amstrad-e3-hacking.freeforums.net/thread/16/amstrad-e3-adverts?page=1&scrollTo=96
  click on one and it will come up on its own page then right click on it and 
click on save as...

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Hi Nick,

> Does anyone want the E3 adverts, they are not big, there are 7 of them
> in gif format they are the same size as the screen on the E3 is
> 480x320, I can upload them

Yes, do that, e.g. to Dropbox like with the other files.  I expect I'm
not the only one to squirrel stuff away so copies live on.

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Yeah I know Linux runs from its Kernel,it has a 2.6.19 kernel, without the 
kernel there be on Linux.. 😊 ,Windows has a kernel too.

I don't understand how to erase the blocks, I was never good at Maths that why 
I am not a programmer, I have Autism but am dyslexic too so need things said to 
me  step by step otherwise I don’t understand.

>> If I can’t put the original firmware back

That should be possible as you have the files, now without their
16 bytes per 512 bytes overhead.  You need to work out how many blocks
to erase based on the size of each file you're trying to put back.
IIRC I pointed out a block is the unit of erasure and it's 16 KiB.

So e3-nand.0 is 3584 KB so how many blocks go into it…? so how many times dose 
16KB going in to 3584KB…?? I don’t know..?? I can’t divide. Iam a bit ok on Add 
not brilliant at Times but can’t do Divide.
I was crap a Maths,I left school in 87,32 years ago… 😊 I got a 5 for Maths. 
that's a E ,…lol

Could you work it out for me, I do not know how too..?

How do I know how many files there are in each image(mtd0,1,2,3,4,5) and what 
size they are, you can’t open it like a normal partition, Dam Amstrad this will 
take forever…lol ☹

I be copying and sharing the firmware from my new E3 I am waiting for it to 
arrive, its activated.

My plan is to flash the copy of the firmware every time the E3 deactivates 
itself to activate it again, hopefully for 3 months,you see… 😊 ? My plan is to 
get all E3 working, well to the point you can use the Phone, Address Book and 
Answer Machine and that.

I still think the firmware needs hacking…😊 if we could get in and edit the 
Delta_e_live.config you could open up the whole system, that file configs the 
emailer so Amstrad could added different options in Setup(Setup Button) too 
that file so they show up, that's why some options in Setup only has like 1,2,3 
options because the rest is hidden.

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Hi Nick,

> its just a command line version because the E3 is not powerful to run
> proper Linux.

Linux as you know it is three main parts.  There's the kernel, that's
what Linux really is, and it talks to the hardware.  Atop of that are
the user-space programs, like the shell, ls(1), etc.  They give you the
command line that many of us appreciate.  And then a bunch of user-space
programs can together provide a graphical environment with windows,
menus, etc.;  a `desktop', like Gnome, or XFCE.  Linux distributions
bundle those all up together.

So the E3 is powerful enough to run a Linux kernel, but doesn't have
enough memory to run a modern version, just as Intel 386 processors are
no longer supported.

> If I can’t put the original firmware back

That should be possible as you have the files, now without their
16 bytes per 512 bytes overhead.  You need to work out how many blocks
to erase based on the size of each file you're trying to put back.
IIRC I pointed out a block is the unit of erasure and it's 16 KiB.

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[E3-hacking] Anyone heard of this phone..

[Nick Griffin]

It looks like the first emailer abit, its has the same layout ,see the keyboard 
at the bottom and uses the Pocket Dock IT too and has PB in its name like PBL 
for the Boot Loader, I guess that's where PBL came from.. weird, its called a 
Amstrad PB1500 and PB Stands for Phone Book. So Phone Book Loader…😊 well that 
makes sence,when you turn on the Emailer it loading up its phone book so you 
can make a call.. 😊 Phone Book is Address Book just another name for it.

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I do wish I never flashed E3 Linux on it now,theres no point to it,you can’t 
put anything on it or run anything on it cos its too old and E3 Linux didn’t go 
anywhere, its just a command line version because the E3 is not powerful to run 
proper Linux. I installed E3 Linux release v2 (E3 Linux sound better that just 
Linux or release v2 this way you know what I am taking about)from 
the.earth.li/pub/e3/<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http://the.earth.li/pub/e3/&data=02%7c01%7c%7c840b4cbdc1144202f49908d6c645d49b%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636914400552286012&sdata=G0BDfgsHg/sYeCygQes4FwIOjf39Uy92wVNnDT20ZdI%3D&reserved=0>
  what are the rest of the stuff in there, can I update it to 2.6.19,its at 
2.6.16 that what release v2 is…?

I would like to put a program on it so it shows images on it screen you have to 
make it on it and it don’t even have make on it to make a program so make need 
to be installed first.
If I can’t put the original firmware back or put a program on it so it shows a 
animated gif then it useless and I will end up putting it in the bin. I have 
about 8 gifs of its old adverts and want to show them on the E3s screen, can 
anyone help me please. I am not used to installing programs from source code, I 
am use to installing it from a repository.

Oh and what happen to this…  
http://amstrad-e3-hacking.freeforums.net/thread/7/support-status-update<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http://amstrad-e3-hacking.freeforums.net/thread/7/support-status-update&data=02%7c01%7c%7c840b4cbdc1144202f49908d6c645d49b%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636914400552296023&sdata=Sz12Lx9X8WFByYU/vSme5aD2fP4oDx9mC%2BWoJgaTf5c%3D&reserved=0>
  why did the work on E3 Linux stop and only get to 2.6.19…?

and very interested in this bit at the end.. “BTW, my 12-bit framebuffer 
display support has been accepted and included in
mplayer svn revision 31139 on May 6th. Using it, I can enjoy a prescaled
422x316 5fps MSMPEG-4 encoded live video stream playing fluently in
fullscreen mode on my E3 display.”

Leave a reply in there and tell us what happened to E3 Linux 2.6.34..

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OK sorted it out now, (thanks to Ollie), will I be able to use these files to 
put the Amstrad firmware back on the E3 at all..?

question is here too 
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Hi Nick,

> sudo nand-oob-strip.py e3-nand-backup.0 e3-nand.0: No such file or
> directory

Two things.  You probably don't need sudo as your ordinary user should
be able to read e3-nand-backup.0 and write e3-nand.0.  You have to
specify a path to the nand-oob-strip.py script for the shell to find it.
Since it's in the current directory, that's just `.', i.e.

./nand-oob-strip.py in.0 out.0

If that complains, then it's because ./nand-oob-strip.py lacks the
`execute' permission for you.  Either add it with chmod(1), or run the
Python interpreter directly:

python3 nand-oob-strip.py in.0 out.0

Alternatively, to modify the file in place, so ensure they're not your
only copies, you can do

LC_ALL=C perl -i -0777pe 's/(.{512})(.{16})/$1/gs' \
e3-nand-backup.{0..5}

which substitutes every 512 bytes followed by 16 

Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

Does anyone want the E3 adverts, they are not big, there are 7 of them in gif 
format they are the same size as the screen on the E3 is 480x320, I can upload 
them for you to download them if you like might make it easier if some wants to 
look into getting them working on the E3..?
The adverts are the ones from the Amserve website ,I have had them for years 
lucky,you can’t get the no more. site it dead now.

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From: David Given<mailto:d...@cowlark.com>
Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎21‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎23‎:‎05
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You wouldn't run imagemagick on the E3 itself. (Apart from anything else the E3 
distribution is, IIRC, something based on OpenEmbedded/Angstrom and is very 
hard to get software for?) You'd run it on a PC and use it to convert files to 
put on a USB stick, and then use simple scripting on the E3 to draw them on the 
screen.

That said, I remember the E3 framebuffer format to be pretty weird, so you may 
be better off writing a program (on a PC) to do some kind of custom conversion. 
fbset on the E3 should tell you the exact format.

On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 23:45, Nick Griffin 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
What the ams-delta mini distribution ..?
Which one do I download… 
https://www.imagemagick.org/script/download.php<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://www.imagemagick.org/script/download.php&data=02%7c01%7c%7c1884cbd3e3714908d56e08d6c6a5825b%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636914811491696574&sdata=aHJgcEqUtJC3i7OzT1atOz9D3rblq0Dytc95jvLXl/4%3D&reserved=0>
 and how do I install it on the E3..?

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If you just want to put images onto the screen, write a tiny script that copies 
files from the USB stick and cats them to /dev/fb0. Converting images to the 
right format's a little bit harder but I wouldn't be surprised if ImageMagick 
could do it out of the box. That'll run happily in the ams-delta mini 
distribution.

Alternatively, you can boot an old Debian from a USB stick using that kernel 
--- although you'll need to hunt around to find a userland old enough; I think 
Debian woody works. That'll give you a (very slow) development system running 
on the E3 itself. Then you can write your own SDL programs to draw whatever you 
like, although I should warn you against extended typing on that keyboard 
unless you hate your fingers.

On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 12:40, Nick Griffin 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
I do wish I never flashed E3 Linux on it now,theres no point to it,you can’t 
put anything on it or run anything on it cos its too old and E3 Linux didn’t go 
anywhere, its just a command line version because the E3 is not powerful to run 
proper Linux. I installed E3 Linux release v2 (E3 Linux sound better that just 
Linux or release v2 this way you know what I am taking about)from 
the.earth.li/pub/e3/<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http://the.earth.li/pub/e3/&data=02%7c01%7c%7c1884cbd3e3714908d56e08d6c6a5825b%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636914811491716590&sdata=WhRGFTM%2Bj7BOhOgH9a6MOCgfC5EM%2BFGaM%2B4pBZ5R0ZA%3D&reserved=0>
  what are the rest of the stuff in there, can I update it to 2.6.19,its at 
2.6.16 that what release v2 is…?

I would like to put a program on it so it shows images on it screen you have to 
make it on it and it don’t even have make on it to make a program so make need 
to be installed first.
If I can’t put the original firmware back or put a program on it so it shows a 
animated gif then it useless and I will end up putting it in the bin. I have 
about 8 gifs of its old adverts and want to show them on the E3s screen, can 
anyone help me please. I am not used to installing programs from source code, I 
am use to installing it from a repository.

Oh and what happen to this…  
http://amstrad-e3-hacking.freeforums.net/thread/7/support-status-update<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http://amstrad-e3-hacking.freeforums.net/thread/7/support-status-update&data=02%7c01%7c%7c1884cbd3e3714908d56e08d6c6a5825b%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636914811491726595&sdata=rS6frR9nj3Dw6Uk401ios9A7ClAg%2Beb7FCz3JxtqjeI%3D&reserved=0>
  why did the work on E3 Linux stop and only get to 2.6.19…?

and very interested in this bit

Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

OK so converting the gif to something maybe like in a video format or 
something, I don’t know, I won't know where to start, I never scripted stuff in 
Linux before, I am not a coder,I have played around with scripts in Linux but 
easy stuff,this is way over my head,I need a step by step instructions on how 
to do it,Once I am showed I will,remember how,I understand reading the file 
from the USB stick ,but I not got a clue how to do it,If this is possible we 
might of found something to do with it,you wouldn’t just be able to show the 
adverts on the screen you would able to show anything on it, It would be good 
as a image viewer and a video player. You could get it to show the adverts and 
have it a display model of what the emailer was like so you could show parts of 
what the menu was like to if you wanted but would have to make the image of the 
menu to show, the adverts are very easy to make, you could make  them yourself, 
or make a slideshow of your own pictures and videos on the screen.

But I need someone who knows how to do scripting in Linux because I don’t know 
how. I played around with the scripts in Commodore OS but they are really 
simply ones and nothing like this, If anyone has some spear time and would like 
to help I would really appreciate it.

Thanks..

Spanner..
PS… Dose anyone know what was used to make the Main Software (The GUI) on the 
E3,I want to add it to the page on Wikipedia..? (Phone Book Loader….HAHAHA that 
makes me laugh but dose make sense.. 😊.)
Looking forward to my new ish Amstrad E3 coming and E1 too.. I have the whole 
set now..😊 When E3 comes I be copying it firmware and sharing it because its 
activated so has the .confg file still on it. its will properly operate for 3 
Months before deactivating and removing the config file. Someone has to just 
find a why be able to flash it back properly.

I am good at thinking up ideas but have a problem of making them a reality.. 😊
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Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎21‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎23‎:‎05
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

You wouldn't run imagemagick on the E3 itself. (Apart from anything else the E3 
distribution is, IIRC, something based on OpenEmbedded/Angstrom and is very 
hard to get software for?) You'd run it on a PC and use it to convert files to 
put on a USB stick, and then use simple scripting on the E3 to draw them on the 
screen.

That said, I remember the E3 framebuffer format to be pretty weird, so you may 
be better off writing a program (on a PC) to do some kind of custom conversion. 
fbset on the E3 should tell you the exact format.

On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 23:45, Nick Griffin 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
What the ams-delta mini distribution ..?
Which one do I download… 
https://www.imagemagick.org/script/download.php<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://www.imagemagick.org/script/download.php&data=02%7c01%7c%7c1884cbd3e3714908d56e08d6c6a5825b%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636914811491696574&sdata=aHJgcEqUtJC3i7OzT1atOz9D3rblq0Dytc95jvLXl/4%3D&reserved=0>
 and how do I install it on the E3..?

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hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

If you just want to put images onto the screen, write a tiny script that copies 
files from the USB stick and cats them to /dev/fb0. Converting images to the 
right format's a little bit harder but I wouldn't be surprised if ImageMagick 
could do it out of the box. That'll run happily in the ams-delta mini 
distribution.

Alternatively, you can boot an old Debian from a USB stick using that kernel 
--- although you'll need to hunt around to find a userland old enough; I think 
Debian woody works. That'll give you a (very slow) development system running 
on the E3 itself. Then you can write your own SDL programs to draw whatever you 
like, although I should warn you against extended typing on that keyboard 
unless you hate your fingers.

On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 12:40, Nick Griffin 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
I do wish I never flashed E3 Linux on it now,theres no point to it,you can’t 
put anything on it or run anything on it cos its too old and E3 Linux didn’t go 
anywhere, its just a command line version because the E3 is not powerful to run 
proper Linux. I installed E3 Linux release v2 (E3 Linux sound better 

[E3-hacking] What happen to 2.6.34 why is only 2.6.19 available on E3 wiki site...?

[Nick Griffin]

The post is called Support status 
update
 and posted by Janusz Krzysztofikand its its here  
https://www.mail-archive.com/e3-hacking@earth.li/msg00189.html

Where could you download it from..?

Janusz 
Krzysztofik
 Mon, 17 May 2010 13:35:30 
-0700

Hi,

As linux-2.6.34 is out, a few words on what's new regarding our E3's.

Modem support and dependant audio mixer functionality, that got broken in
2.6.33, have been corrected and should work again.

Contrast control has been added (not extremely usefull, but just for
completeness). You should be able to play with it by writing
to /sys/class/lcd/omapfb/contrast and /sys/class/lcd/omapfb/lcd_power.
Unfortunatelly, I failed to get the updated ams_delta_defconfig included, so
you have to select this manually for now:

Device Drivers  --->
  Graphics support  --->
[*] Backlight & LCD device support  --->
  <*>   Lowlevel LCD controls

For the same reason, you may have to make more corrections to the default
configuration if you would still like to use the new kernel together with old
installation tools, otherwise the resulting uImage would probably be too big.
Try these changes that got accepted too late for inclusion:

General setup  --->
  RCU Subsystem  --->
RCU Implementation  --->
  (X) Preemptable tree-based hierarchical RCU

[*] Enable the block layer  --->
  [ ]   Support for large (2TB+) block devices and files

Kernel hacking  --->
  [ ] Verbose BUG() reporting (adds 70K)

That's all for 2.6.34. The long awaited external keyboard support is already
present in linux-omap and should appear in mainline as soon as 2.6.35-rc1 is
out.

BTW, my 12-bit framebuffer display support has been accepted and included in
mplayer svn revision 31139 on May 6th. Using it, I can enjoy a prescaled
422x316 5fps MSMPEG-4 encoded live video stream playing fluently in
fullscreen mode on my E3 display.

Thanks,
Janusz


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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

What the ams-delta mini distribution ..?
Which one do I download… https://www.imagemagick.org/script/download.php and 
how do I install it on the E3..?

Spanner..

http://amstrad-e3-hacking.freeforums.net

From: David Given<mailto:d...@cowlark.com>
Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎21‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎19‎:‎41
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

If you just want to put images onto the screen, write a tiny script that copies 
files from the USB stick and cats them to /dev/fb0. Converting images to the 
right format's a little bit harder but I wouldn't be surprised if ImageMagick 
could do it out of the box. That'll run happily in the ams-delta mini 
distribution.

Alternatively, you can boot an old Debian from a USB stick using that kernel 
--- although you'll need to hunt around to find a userland old enough; I think 
Debian woody works. That'll give you a (very slow) development system running 
on the E3 itself. Then you can write your own SDL programs to draw whatever you 
like, although I should warn you against extended typing on that keyboard 
unless you hate your fingers.

On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 12:40, Nick Griffin 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
I do wish I never flashed E3 Linux on it now,theres no point to it,you can’t 
put anything on it or run anything on it cos its too old and E3 Linux didn’t go 
anywhere, its just a command line version because the E3 is not powerful to run 
proper Linux. I installed E3 Linux release v2 (E3 Linux sound better that just 
Linux or release v2 this way you know what I am taking about)from 
the.earth.li/pub/e3/<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http://the.earth.li/pub/e3/&data=02%7c01%7c%7ca0b9c24dc4674add1b8b08d6c688ee6f%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636914688762358339&sdata=FOzBMM3LtY1wHF6x7%2BBQNWYAGuV5iYw7lbtnVBH6OTk%3D&reserved=0>
  what are the rest of the stuff in there, can I update it to 2.6.19,its at 
2.6.16 that what release v2 is…?

I would like to put a program on it so it shows images on it screen you have to 
make it on it and it don’t even have make on it to make a program so make need 
to be installed first.
If I can’t put the original firmware back or put a program on it so it shows a 
animated gif then it useless and I will end up putting it in the bin. I have 
about 8 gifs of its old adverts and want to show them on the E3s screen, can 
anyone help me please. I am not used to installing programs from source code, I 
am use to installing it from a repository.

Oh and what happen to this…  
http://amstrad-e3-hacking.freeforums.net/thread/7/support-status-update<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http://amstrad-e3-hacking.freeforums.net/thread/7/support-status-update&data=02%7c01%7c%7ca0b9c24dc4674add1b8b08d6c688ee6f%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636914688762378349&sdata=NXv3LlBFMP0bxp1Ool7i0X0cLJG6yYCDwj0OeESE7AI%3D&reserved=0>
  why did the work on E3 Linux stop and only get to 2.6.19…?

and very interested in this bit at the end.. “BTW, my 12-bit framebuffer 
display support has been accepted and included in
mplayer svn revision 31139 on May 6th. Using it, I can enjoy a prescaled
422x316 5fps MSMPEG-4 encoded live video stream playing fluently in
fullscreen mode on my E3 display.”

Leave a reply in there and tell us what happened to E3 Linux 2.6.34..

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OK sorted it out now, (thanks to Ollie), will I be able to use these files to 
put the Amstrad firmware back on the E3 at all..?

question is here too 
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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

I do wish I never flashed E3 Linux on it now,theres no point to it,you can’t 
put anything on it or run anything on it cos its too old and E3 Linux didn’t go 
anywhere, its just a command line version because the E3 is not powerful to run 
proper Linux. I installed E3 Linux release v2 (E3 Linux sound better that just 
Linux or release v2 this way you know what I am taking about)from 
the.earth.li/pub/e3/<http://the.earth.li/pub/e3/>  what are the rest of the 
stuff in there, can I update it to 2.6.19,its at 2.6.16 that what release v2 
is…?

I would like to put a program on it so it shows images on it screen you have to 
make it on it and it don’t even have make on it to make a program so make need 
to be installed first.
If I can’t put the original firmware back or put a program on it so it shows a 
animated gif then it useless and I will end up putting it in the bin. I have 
about 8 gifs of its old adverts and want to show them on the E3s screen, can 
anyone help me please. I am not used to installing programs from source code, I 
am use to installing it from a repository.

Oh and what happen to this…  
http://amstrad-e3-hacking.freeforums.net/thread/7/support-status-update  why 
did the work on E3 Linux stop and only get to 2.6.19…?

and very interested in this bit at the end.. “BTW, my 12-bit framebuffer 
display support has been accepted and included in
mplayer svn revision 31139 on May 6th. Using it, I can enjoy a prescaled
422x316 5fps MSMPEG-4 encoded live video stream playing fluently in
fullscreen mode on my E3 display.”

Leave a reply in there and tell us what happened to E3 Linux 2.6.34..

Spanner..

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎20‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎22‎:‎25
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

OK sorted it out now, (thanks to Ollie), will I be able to use these files to 
put the Amstrad firmware back on the E3 at all..?

question is here too 
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Hi Nick,

> sudo nand-oob-strip.py e3-nand-backup.0 e3-nand.0: No such file or
> directory

Two things.  You probably don't need sudo as your ordinary user should
be able to read e3-nand-backup.0 and write e3-nand.0.  You have to
specify a path to the nand-oob-strip.py script for the shell to find it.
Since it's in the current directory, that's just `.', i.e.

./nand-oob-strip.py in.0 out.0

If that complains, then it's because ./nand-oob-strip.py lacks the
`execute' permission for you.  Either add it with chmod(1), or run the
Python interpreter directly:

python3 nand-oob-strip.py in.0 out.0

Alternatively, to modify the file in place, so ensure they're not your
only copies, you can do

LC_ALL=C perl -i -0777pe 's/(.{512})(.{16})/$1/gs' \
e3-nand-backup.{0..5}

which substitutes every 512 bytes followed by 16 bytes with just the
512.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

OK sorted it out now, (thanks to Ollie), will I be able to use these files to 
put the Amstrad firmware back on the E3 at all..?

question is here too 
http://amstrad-e3-hacking.freeforums.net/thread/9/config-content-filesystem?page=1&scrollTo=92

You don’t need to register to reply or leave a new thread there now.

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From: Ralph Corderoy
Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎20‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎18‎:‎39
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software

Hi Nick,

> sudo nand-oob-strip.py e3-nand-backup.0 e3-nand.0: No such file or
> directory

Two things.  You probably don't need sudo as your ordinary user should
be able to read e3-nand-backup.0 and write e3-nand.0.  You have to
specify a path to the nand-oob-strip.py script for the shell to find it.
Since it's in the current directory, that's just `.', i.e.

./nand-oob-strip.py in.0 out.0

If that complains, then it's because ./nand-oob-strip.py lacks the
`execute' permission for you.  Either add it with chmod(1), or run the
Python interpreter directly:

python3 nand-oob-strip.py in.0 out.0

Alternatively, to modify the file in place, so ensure they're not your
only copies, you can do

LC_ALL=C perl -i -0777pe 's/(.{512})(.{16})/$1/gs' \
e3-nand-backup.{0..5}

which substitutes every 512 bytes followed by 16 bytes with just the
512.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

live@commodoreos<mailto:live@commodoreos> /media/live/E3
READY.
sudo nand-oob-strip.py e3-nand-backup.0 e3-nand.0: No such file or directory


Spanner..

http://amstrad-e3-hacking.freeforums.net

From: Jonathan McDowell<mailto:nood...@earth.li>
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎18‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎21‎:‎09
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Yes, you run it on a proper Linux box, not the E3. The script isn't
going to magically fix anything, but it'll turn the dumps that include
OOB information into dumps without OOB information that might help you
do some sleuthing about their contents.

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 12:52:37PM +, Nick Griffin wrote:
> Where do I put attached Python script, in my Linux not in the E3..?
>
> So I do each file with it..?
>
> Spanner..
>
> From: Jonathan McDowell<mailto:nood...@earth.li>
> Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎18‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎11‎:‎58
> To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
> hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 01:26:40PM +, Nick Griffin wrote:
>
> > Do you remember if you were able to mount the Cramfs and look at its
> > filesystem..?  What's Q;Q; blocks in flash, another files system…?
> > Can’t find any info on it, were you able to mount that too. So does it
> > have 2 partitions on mtd4 then..?
>
> You need to remember the E3 dates from a time when embedded Linux
> systems were a lot simpler, and the E3 was designed to be a low cost
> platform (even allowing for the subsidy). It doesn't have the sort of
> NAND setup seen on modern systems; it simply didn't have the resources.
>
> So, the MTD partitions do not directly map to a kernel or a Linux
> filesystem. The "Q;Q;" blocks are an Amstrad specific way of putting
> data into those partitions, with a type + description associated with
> each one. For example the kernel lives in a Q;Q; block in mtd3 called
> "LINUX". mtd3 also has Q;Q; blocks for LDR (the second stage boot
> loader), and PARMS (the kernel boot parameters).
>
> The CRAMFS filesystem is in mtd4; Q;Q; block name "LNXFSYS". There are 2
> of them (I imagine to allow for an active + fallback). There are various
> other bits of content in mtd4 too - you can see them by doing:
>
>  hexdump -C e3-nand-backup.4 | grep -A 1 "Q;Q;"
>
> Finally the nanddump files have 16 bytes of out of band (OOB) data per
> 512 byte block, so if you want something that might be writable back to
> the flash you need to strip those out. The attached Python should do the
> trick:
>
>  nand-oob-strip e3-nand-backup.0 e3-nand.0
>
> will dump out e3-nand.0 with the OOB data stripped.

J.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

Where do I put attached Python script, in my Linux not in the E3..?

So I do each file with it..?

Spanner..

From: Jonathan McDowell<mailto:nood...@earth.li>
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎18‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎11‎:‎58
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 01:26:40PM +, Nick Griffin wrote:

> Do you remember if you were able to mount the Cramfs and look at its
> filesystem..?  What's Q;Q; blocks in flash, another files system…?
> Can’t find any info on it, were you able to mount that too. So does it
> have 2 partitions on mtd4 then..?

You need to remember the E3 dates from a time when embedded Linux
systems were a lot simpler, and the E3 was designed to be a low cost
platform (even allowing for the subsidy). It doesn't have the sort of
NAND setup seen on modern systems; it simply didn't have the resources.

So, the MTD partitions do not directly map to a kernel or a Linux
filesystem. The "Q;Q;" blocks are an Amstrad specific way of putting
data into those partitions, with a type + description associated with
each one. For example the kernel lives in a Q;Q; block in mtd3 called
"LINUX". mtd3 also has Q;Q; blocks for LDR (the second stage boot
loader), and PARMS (the kernel boot parameters).

The CRAMFS filesystem is in mtd4; Q;Q; block name "LNXFSYS". There are 2
of them (I imagine to allow for an active + fallback). There are various
other bits of content in mtd4 too - you can see them by doing:

 hexdump -C e3-nand-backup.4 | grep -A 1 "Q;Q;"

Finally the nanddump files have 16 bytes of out of band (OOB) data per
512 byte block, so if you want something that might be writable back to
the flash you need to strip those out. The attached Python should do the
trick:

 nand-oob-strip e3-nand-backup.0 e3-nand.0

will dump out e3-nand.0 with the OOB data stripped.

J.

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[E3-hacking] Amstrad Emailer Forum

[Nick Griffin]

Hi just setup a forum of the Amstrad Emailer, all the question on the mailing 
list will be added,it will take a while but not long.
Its has a Chat Box on there so you can leave messages and talk live,You don’t 
have to join to use it but please no spam, if there is spam then it will be 
deleted, If you need help quickly post it in the Chat Box.

http://amstrad-e3-hacking.freeforums.net
I hope you find it useful, I am not making you to join, join or not join its up 
to you, but Its easier to communicate on there and if you miss anything in your 
post you can edit it, You can’t do that on here because its email.

If you want me to add anything to the forum just ask and I see if I can.. 😊

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Re: [E3-hacking] Trying to Flashing the backup of the Original Firmware Again

[Nick Griffin]

Try to find out the block size for the mtd partitions for ​

#flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 16 - don’t know what number 16 should be for each mtdx 
partition..?

Can someone help me please..??

Is the size where it says ending at 0x0038 so what would the number be for 
it to erase the right amount of memory from the mtd partition..?

mtd0
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x0038...*
mtd1
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004...*
mtd2
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004...
mtd3
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004...*
mtd4
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x01b0...*
mtd5
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x000c...

Spanner..

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Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎17‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎09‎:‎26
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On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 12:28:03AM +, SJS Doherty wrote:
> If possible, could you remove me from the E3 mailing lists. My mother
> is ill at the moment and I’m watching the email on my phone for
> updates, so I’m trying to exclude non-essential emails.

I've dealt with this, but in general if people want to modify their list
settings they can + should do so themselves at:

 
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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

Sorry forget to add..
Do you remember if you were able to mount the Cramfs and look at its 
filesystem..?
What's Q;Q; blocks in flash, another files system…? Can’t find any info on it, 
were you able to mount that too. So does it have 2 partitions on mtd4 then..?
At the time no one would of looked into the file system cos that would validate 
the rules on using the Emailer,It now matters cos there all are dead and If we 
can get to the config file, then maybe get other E3s working again, Amstrad had 
a 500+ page manual on it cos there could add things to the emaler like 
different oprtions and that to it,that config file was the heart to the system, 
Made everything tick.. 😊 without it its a dead machine.

Does anyone remember the command line to mount a mtd partition..?

Spanner..

From: Jonathan McDowell<mailto:nood...@earth.li>
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On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 07:45:20PM +0000, Nick Griffin wrote:
> Got to just find out how to mount a mtd partition with the system on
> it, then that file (delta_e_live.config) will be in there somewhere…😊

I have a vague memory that the E3 used a read-only cramfs or similar
filesystem for the actual OS/base application stuff, and then a custom
filesystem (based on Q;Q; blocks in flash) for all the ads / games /
ringtones / other content. I don't recall anyone spending time on
working out how to modify that custom setup.

J.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Config / content filesystem

[Nick Griffin]

Thanks for the info, but the emailer would have to download the config file 
ever time it looked for mail so rewriting on the top of the old config,so to 
reset the time back to 90days,it has to be on apart off the system that has 
full rights if it was read only it would not be able to download the config 
file. Maybe the Config file is in a place where the games are download.I don’t 
know yet, It only there if the emailer is activated, if you never connected the 
email to Amserve the config file would not be there.They all worked the same 
way.

Spanner..

From: Jonathan McDowell<mailto:nood...@earth.li>
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On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 07:45:20PM +, Nick Griffin wrote:
> Got to just find out how to mount a mtd partition with the system on
> it, then that file (delta_e_live.config) will be in there somewhere…😊

I have a vague memory that the E3 used a read-only cramfs or similar
filesystem for the actual OS/base application stuff, and then a custom
filesystem (based on Q;Q; blocks in flash) for all the ads / games /
ringtones / other content. I don't recall anyone spending time on
working out how to modify that custom setup.

J.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Trying to Flashing the backup of the Original Firmware Again

[Nick Griffin]

Here is the backup to my E3 original Firmware,6 files are zipped up in a zip 
file. download it 
here<https://drive.google.com/open?id=1oAZ5oUuoHOttOP0neAN3RMQoy0Hu7LfK>.. 
Maybe someone might find it useful..😊 This is not activated but someone might 
be able to extract the OS from it and get there E3 partly working again. I 
sheared this so you can have a play with it, if you want.
Remember that it has bad blocks too so they need to be removed or data need 
extracted ,you can’t flash it to the E3 the way it is, It will not work, the 
biggest file, e3-nand-backup.4 is the OS it 27.8mb.

e3-nand-backup.0 is 360mb,e3-nand-backup.1 is 264kb, e3-nand-backup.2 is 264kb, 
e3-nand-backup.3 is 264kb, e3-nand-backup.4 is 27.8mb, e3-nand-backup.5 is 
792kb.

Good luck with it.

Spanner..

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Got to just find out how to mount a mtd partition with the system on it, then 
that file (delta_e_live.config) will be in there somewhere…😊

Spanner..

From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎16‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎14‎:‎04
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Just bought another one but Good News is that its working and Activated so 
hopefully be able to get the delta_e_live.config from it.
If the emailer is activated then the file is in the system, when it deactivated 
then the file has been deleted.

Spanner..

From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎16‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎09‎:‎03
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Is there any website about extracting the data from the Amstrad E3 images,if I 
can’t find a way I be buying another this week, I flashed E3 Linux on it 
thinking I could put the original Firmware back, ah well, there is nothing you 
can do with E3 Linux becase it missing so mush programs that in normal Linux 
because its slimed down..it don’t even have make on it to compile programs on 
it, this is why it not used and now there are development boards out there now 
that are faster and can hold Linux on without having to slim it down but this 
was not made for this, at the end of the day its just a phone and should used 
as one now.

Spanner..

From: David Given<mailto:d...@cowlark.com>
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎15‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎22‎:‎59
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There'll be a way to extract the data from the flash backups you have, which 
you can then write to the device in a way that knows about the bad blocks. The 
ams_delta installer script will be doing exactly this. I can't remember what 
any of the E3 partitions do any more but the big one will most likely be a 
JFFS2 filesystem. Loopback mounting those JFFS2 images is a pain because you 
need to use mtdram to fake a flash device.

If all else fails, you can always run ams_delta on it.

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 23:34, Nick Griffin 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
It looks like when it backs up the NAND its copies the blocks that are bad too 
making the image bigger,  so if you try and restore the E3 back to the way it 
was, you can’t because the bad Blocks stop it from installing,  if you want to 
use Linux on the E3 use it from the Ramdisk in Release V2 
here<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http://the.earth.li/pub/e3/E3_release_v2.tar.gz&data=02%7c01%7c%7ce53ab1dbbb2942fa729f08d6c2a417b7%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636910407358132598&sdata=z7wAKaWg04ZUsu1iKQPybfra8a35n4eTSTmTOYeBpKw%3D&reserved=0>,Just
 don’t run ams-delta-install then you will not lose the Amstrad E3 Original 
Firmware. Like I did and I am gutted. I have to now buy another one and its 
going to cost me £30 because they are not cheap because they are retro, 
well…😊How can it be retro when the service only was close 8 years ago. A 
Commodore 64 or ZX Spectrum is retro..😊

Spanner..

From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎15‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎17‎:‎11
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Well it didn’t flash, and I think it didn’t erase too so my code is wrong I 
think… looks like it has bad blocks too and they and made the files bigger in 
size than the partition..???

This process will completely restore your E3's NAND.
This will try and restore The Amstrad firmware on the device. Are you
sure you wish to continue? [y/N]: y

Starting restore.. This might take a while...
Found e3-nand-backup.0
  Erasing /dev/mtd0
Erase Total 0 Units
 done
  Writing e3-nand-backup.0 to /dev/mtd0
Image 3784704 bytes, NAND page 512 bytes, OOB area 512 bytes, device size 
3670016 bytes
Input file does not fit into device: Suc

Re: [E3-hacking] Trying to Flashing the backup of the Original Firmware Again

[Nick Griffin]

Got to just find out how to mount a mtd partition with the system on it, then 
that file (delta_e_live.config) will be in there somewhere…😊

Spanner..

From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎16‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎14‎:‎04
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Just bought another one but Good News is that its working and Activated so 
hopefully be able to get the delta_e_live.config from it.
If the emailer is activated then the file is in the system, when it deactivated 
then the file has been deleted.

Spanner..

From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎16‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎09‎:‎03
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Is there any website about extracting the data from the Amstrad E3 images,if I 
can’t find a way I be buying another this week, I flashed E3 Linux on it 
thinking I could put the original Firmware back, ah well, there is nothing you 
can do with E3 Linux becase it missing so mush programs that in normal Linux 
because its slimed down..it don’t even have make on it to compile programs on 
it, this is why it not used and now there are development boards out there now 
that are faster and can hold Linux on without having to slim it down but this 
was not made for this, at the end of the day its just a phone and should used 
as one now.

Spanner..

From: David Given<mailto:d...@cowlark.com>
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎15‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎22‎:‎59
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

There'll be a way to extract the data from the flash backups you have, which 
you can then write to the device in a way that knows about the bad blocks. The 
ams_delta installer script will be doing exactly this. I can't remember what 
any of the E3 partitions do any more but the big one will most likely be a 
JFFS2 filesystem. Loopback mounting those JFFS2 images is a pain because you 
need to use mtdram to fake a flash device.

If all else fails, you can always run ams_delta on it.

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 23:34, Nick Griffin 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
It looks like when it backs up the NAND its copies the blocks that are bad too 
making the image bigger,  so if you try and restore the E3 back to the way it 
was, you can’t because the bad Blocks stop it from installing,  if you want to 
use Linux on the E3 use it from the Ramdisk in Release V2 
here<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http://the.earth.li/pub/e3/E3_release_v2.tar.gz&data=02%7c01%7c%7cc5291e35571543ca34c408d6c26c1fe0%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636910166973216848&sdata=aaN9t11isvaBv31NMEoD0szYuWlnbrIxgkBncakToEs%3D&reserved=0>,Just
 don’t run ams-delta-install then you will not lose the Amstrad E3 Original 
Firmware. Like I did and I am gutted. I have to now buy another one and its 
going to cost me £30 because they are not cheap because they are retro, 
well…😊How can it be retro when the service only was close 8 years ago. A 
Commodore 64 or ZX Spectrum is retro..😊

Spanner..

From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎15‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎17‎:‎11
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Well it didn’t flash, and I think it didn’t erase too so my code is wrong I 
think… looks like it has bad blocks too and they and made the files bigger in 
size than the partition..???

This process will completely restore your E3's NAND.
This will try and restore The Amstrad firmware on the device. Are you
sure you wish to continue? [y/N]: y

Starting restore.. This might take a while...
Found e3-nand-backup.0
  Erasing /dev/mtd0
Erase Total 0 Units
 done
  Writing e3-nand-backup.0 to /dev/mtd0
Image 3784704 bytes, NAND page 512 bytes, OOB area 512 bytes, device size 
3670016 bytes
Input file does not fit into device: Success
Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks
: Success
Found e3-nand-backup.1
  Erasing /dev/mtd1
Erase Total 0 Units
 done
  Writing e3-nand-backup.1 to /dev/mtd1
Image 270336 bytes, NAND page 512 bytes, OOB area 512 bytes, device size 262144 
bytes
Input file does not fit into device: Success
Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks
: Success
Found e3-nand-backup.3
  Erasing /dev/mtd3
Erase Total 0 Units
 done
  Writing e3-nand-backup.3 to /dev/mtd3
Image 270336 bytes, NAND page 512 bytes, OOB area 512 bytes, device size 262144 
bytes
Input file does not fit into device: Success
Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks
: Success
Found e3-nand-backup.4
  Erasing /dev/mtd4
Erase Total 0 Units
 done
  Writing e3-nand-backup.4 to /dev/mtd4
Image 29196288 bytes, NAND page 512 bytes, OOB area 512 bytes, device size 
28311552 bytes
Input file does not fit into device: Success
Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks
: Success
Finished restoring the 

Re: [E3-hacking] Trying to Flashing the backup of the Original Firmware Again

[Nick Griffin]

Just bought another one but Good News is that its working and Activated so 
hopefully be able to get the delta_e_live.config from it.
If the emailer is activated then the file is in the system, when it deactivated 
then the file has been deleted.

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎16‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎09‎:‎03
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Is there any website about extracting the data from the Amstrad E3 images,if I 
can’t find a way I be buying another this week, I flashed E3 Linux on it 
thinking I could put the original Firmware back, ah well, there is nothing you 
can do with E3 Linux becase it missing so mush programs that in normal Linux 
because its slimed down..it don’t even have make on it to compile programs on 
it, this is why it not used and now there are development boards out there now 
that are faster and can hold Linux on without having to slim it down but this 
was not made for this, at the end of the day its just a phone and should used 
as one now.

Spanner..

From: David Given<mailto:d...@cowlark.com>
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎15‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎22‎:‎59
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

There'll be a way to extract the data from the flash backups you have, which 
you can then write to the device in a way that knows about the bad blocks. The 
ams_delta installer script will be doing exactly this. I can't remember what 
any of the E3 partitions do any more but the big one will most likely be a 
JFFS2 filesystem. Loopback mounting those JFFS2 images is a pain because you 
need to use mtdram to fake a flash device.

If all else fails, you can always run ams_delta on it.

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 23:34, Nick Griffin 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
It looks like when it backs up the NAND its copies the blocks that are bad too 
making the image bigger,  so if you try and restore the E3 back to the way it 
was, you can’t because the bad Blocks stop it from installing,  if you want to 
use Linux on the E3 use it from the Ramdisk in Release V2 
here<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http://the.earth.li/pub/e3/E3_release_v2.tar.gz&data=02%7c01%7c%7ca81b3b1bffcd45d3586508d6c241f55d%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636909985870739791&sdata=ZNxcj1BbEU60rSiE%2B0W3aTIcQp/dUzU2AKifheWowB0%3D&reserved=0>,Just
 don’t run ams-delta-install then you will not lose the Amstrad E3 Original 
Firmware. Like I did and I am gutted. I have to now buy another one and its 
going to cost me £30 because they are not cheap because they are retro, 
well…😊How can it be retro when the service only was close 8 years ago. A 
Commodore 64 or ZX Spectrum is retro..😊

Spanner..

From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎15‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎17‎:‎11
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Well it didn’t flash, and I think it didn’t erase too so my code is wrong I 
think… looks like it has bad blocks too and they and made the files bigger in 
size than the partition..???

This process will completely restore your E3's NAND.
This will try and restore The Amstrad firmware on the device. Are you
sure you wish to continue? [y/N]: y

Starting restore.. This might take a while...
Found e3-nand-backup.0
  Erasing /dev/mtd0
Erase Total 0 Units
 done
  Writing e3-nand-backup.0 to /dev/mtd0
Image 3784704 bytes, NAND page 512 bytes, OOB area 512 bytes, device size 
3670016 bytes
Input file does not fit into device: Success
Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks
: Success
Found e3-nand-backup.1
  Erasing /dev/mtd1
Erase Total 0 Units
 done
  Writing e3-nand-backup.1 to /dev/mtd1
Image 270336 bytes, NAND page 512 bytes, OOB area 512 bytes, device size 262144 
bytes
Input file does not fit into device: Success
Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks
: Success
Found e3-nand-backup.3
  Erasing /dev/mtd3
Erase Total 0 Units
 done
  Writing e3-nand-backup.3 to /dev/mtd3
Image 270336 bytes, NAND page 512 bytes, OOB area 512 bytes, device size 262144 
bytes
Input file does not fit into device: Success
Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks
: Success
Found e3-nand-backup.4
  Erasing /dev/mtd4
Erase Total 0 Units
 done
  Writing e3-nand-backup.4 to /dev/mtd4
Image 29196288 bytes, NAND page 512 bytes, OOB area 512 bytes, device size 
28311552 bytes
Input file does not fit into device: Success
Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks
: Success
Finished restoring the Amstrad E3 Firmware,
Type Reboot to see if the Amstrad E3 splashcreen comes up

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Re: [E3-hacking] Trying to Flashing the backup of the Original Firmware Again

[Nick Griffin]

Is there any website about extracting the data from the Amstrad E3 images,if I 
can’t find a way I be buying another this week, I flashed E3 Linux on it 
thinking I could put the original Firmware back, ah well, there is nothing you 
can do with E3 Linux becase it missing so mush programs that in normal Linux 
because its slimed down..it don’t even have make on it to compile programs on 
it, this is why it not used and now there are development boards out there now 
that are faster and can hold Linux on without having to slim it down but this 
was not made for this, at the end of the day its just a phone and should used 
as one now.

Spanner..

From: David Given<mailto:d...@cowlark.com>
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎15‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎22‎:‎59
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

There'll be a way to extract the data from the flash backups you have, which 
you can then write to the device in a way that knows about the bad blocks. The 
ams_delta installer script will be doing exactly this. I can't remember what 
any of the E3 partitions do any more but the big one will most likely be a 
JFFS2 filesystem. Loopback mounting those JFFS2 images is a pain because you 
need to use mtdram to fake a flash device.

If all else fails, you can always run ams_delta on it.

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 23:34, Nick Griffin 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
It looks like when it backs up the NAND its copies the blocks that are bad too 
making the image bigger,  so if you try and restore the E3 back to the way it 
was, you can’t because the bad Blocks stop it from installing,  if you want to 
use Linux on the E3 use it from the Ramdisk in Release V2 
here<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http://the.earth.li/pub/e3/E3_release_v2.tar.gz&data=02%7c01%7c%7c47d96ca1b9fc41e51db808d6c1edb3b6%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636909623990816699&sdata=17YCNEtuH%2BeK%2B2BNb6gJ4qiIKmFbDFPl2LcDxvIqpWA%3D&reserved=0>,Just
 don’t run ams-delta-install then you will not lose the Amstrad E3 Original 
Firmware. Like I did and I am gutted. I have to now buy another one and its 
going to cost me £30 because they are not cheap because they are retro, 
well…😊How can it be retro when the service only was close 8 years ago. A 
Commodore 64 or ZX Spectrum is retro..😊

Spanner..

From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎15‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎17‎:‎11
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Well it didn’t flash, and I think it didn’t erase too so my code is wrong I 
think… looks like it has bad blocks too and they and made the files bigger in 
size than the partition..???

This process will completely restore your E3's NAND.
This will try and restore The Amstrad firmware on the device. Are you
sure you wish to continue? [y/N]: y

Starting restore.. This might take a while...
Found e3-nand-backup.0
  Erasing /dev/mtd0
Erase Total 0 Units
 done
  Writing e3-nand-backup.0 to /dev/mtd0
Image 3784704 bytes, NAND page 512 bytes, OOB area 512 bytes, device size 
3670016 bytes
Input file does not fit into device: Success
Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks
: Success
Found e3-nand-backup.1
  Erasing /dev/mtd1
Erase Total 0 Units
 done
  Writing e3-nand-backup.1 to /dev/mtd1
Image 270336 bytes, NAND page 512 bytes, OOB area 512 bytes, device size 262144 
bytes
Input file does not fit into device: Success
Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks
: Success
Found e3-nand-backup.3
  Erasing /dev/mtd3
Erase Total 0 Units
 done
  Writing e3-nand-backup.3 to /dev/mtd3
Image 270336 bytes, NAND page 512 bytes, OOB area 512 bytes, device size 262144 
bytes
Input file does not fit into device: Success
Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks
: Success
Found e3-nand-backup.4
  Erasing /dev/mtd4
Erase Total 0 Units
 done
  Writing e3-nand-backup.4 to /dev/mtd4
Image 29196288 bytes, NAND page 512 bytes, OOB area 512 bytes, device size 
28311552 bytes
Input file does not fit into device: Success
Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks
: Success
Finished restoring the Amstrad E3 Firmware,
Type Reboot to see if the Amstrad E3 splashcreen comes up

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Re: [E3-hacking] Trying to Flashing the backup of the Original Firmware Again

[Nick Griffin]

It looks like when it backs up the NAND its copies the blocks that are bad too 
making the image bigger,  so if you try and restore the E3 back to the way it 
was, you can’t because the bad Blocks stop it from installing,  if you want to 
use Linux on the E3 use it from the Ramdisk in Release V2 
here<http://the.earth.li/pub/e3/E3_release_v2.tar.gz>,Just don’t run 
ams-delta-install then you will not lose the Amstrad E3 Original Firmware. Like 
I did and I am gutted. I have to now buy another one and its going to cost me 
£30 because they are not cheap because they are retro, well…😊How can it be 
retro when the service only was close 8 years ago. A Commodore 64 or ZX 
Spectrum is retro..😊

Spanner..

From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎15‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎17‎:‎11
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Well it didn’t flash, and I think it didn’t erase too so my code is wrong I 
think… looks like it has bad blocks too and they and made the files bigger in 
size than the partition..???

This process will completely restore your E3's NAND.
This will try and restore The Amstrad firmware on the device. Are you
sure you wish to continue? [y/N]: y

Starting restore.. This might take a while...
Found e3-nand-backup.0
  Erasing /dev/mtd0
Erase Total 0 Units
 done
  Writing e3-nand-backup.0 to /dev/mtd0
Image 3784704 bytes, NAND page 512 bytes, OOB area 512 bytes, device size 
3670016 bytes
Input file does not fit into device: Success
Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks
: Success
Found e3-nand-backup.1
  Erasing /dev/mtd1
Erase Total 0 Units
 done
  Writing e3-nand-backup.1 to /dev/mtd1
Image 270336 bytes, NAND page 512 bytes, OOB area 512 bytes, device size 262144 
bytes
Input file does not fit into device: Success
Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks
: Success
Found e3-nand-backup.3
  Erasing /dev/mtd3
Erase Total 0 Units
 done
  Writing e3-nand-backup.3 to /dev/mtd3
Image 270336 bytes, NAND page 512 bytes, OOB area 512 bytes, device size 262144 
bytes
Input file does not fit into device: Success
Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks
: Success
Found e3-nand-backup.4
  Erasing /dev/mtd4
Erase Total 0 Units
 done
  Writing e3-nand-backup.4 to /dev/mtd4
Image 29196288 bytes, NAND page 512 bytes, OOB area 512 bytes, device size 
28311552 bytes
Input file does not fit into device: Success
Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks
: Success
Finished restoring the Amstrad E3 Firmware,
Type Reboot to see if the Amstrad E3 splashcreen comes up

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[E3-hacking] Trying to Flashing the backup of the Original Firmware Again

[Nick Griffin]

Well it didn’t flash, and I think it didn’t erase too so my code is wrong I 
think… looks like it has bad blocks too and they and made the files bigger in 
size than the partition..???

This process will completely restore your E3's NAND.
This will try and restore The Amstrad firmware on the device. Are you
sure you wish to continue? [y/N]: y

Starting restore.. This might take a while...
Found e3-nand-backup.0
  Erasing /dev/mtd0
Erase Total 0 Units
 done
  Writing e3-nand-backup.0 to /dev/mtd0
Image 3784704 bytes, NAND page 512 bytes, OOB area 512 bytes, device size 
3670016 bytes
Input file does not fit into device: Success
Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks
: Success
Found e3-nand-backup.1
  Erasing /dev/mtd1
Erase Total 0 Units
 done
  Writing e3-nand-backup.1 to /dev/mtd1
Image 270336 bytes, NAND page 512 bytes, OOB area 512 bytes, device size 262144 
bytes
Input file does not fit into device: Success
Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks
: Success
Found e3-nand-backup.3
  Erasing /dev/mtd3
Erase Total 0 Units
 done
  Writing e3-nand-backup.3 to /dev/mtd3
Image 270336 bytes, NAND page 512 bytes, OOB area 512 bytes, device size 262144 
bytes
Input file does not fit into device: Success
Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks
: Success
Found e3-nand-backup.4
  Erasing /dev/mtd4
Erase Total 0 Units
 done
  Writing e3-nand-backup.4 to /dev/mtd4
Image 29196288 bytes, NAND page 512 bytes, OOB area 512 bytes, device size 
28311552 bytes
Input file does not fit into device: Success
Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks
: Success
Finished restoring the Amstrad E3 Firmware,
Type Reboot to see if the Amstrad E3 splashcreen comes up

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Re: [E3-hacking] Is it possible to install a Desktop Environment into E3 Linux

[Nick Griffin]

I wouldn’t know how to port Minix,can anyone else do it..?

Spanner..

From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎15‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎13‎:‎11
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

I believe it needs a hacked version of the original firmware really and 
everything would work and if you could hack the internet and email apps in the 
Main Software so it would work with a network adapter to download email and 
that.

But that will never happen because there is no interest in the device no more 
and its too old now. I would like a hacked version of it. You could put a 
Raspberry PI in it and would need a 6 inch screen. I would like to use it as 
intended, as a phone and that.

Spanner..

From: David Given<mailto:d...@cowlark.com>
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎15‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎11‎:‎57
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Android's also way too big! Even the earliest version (I have one on my desk) 
needed 192MB. Current versions get a bit uncomfortable in 2048MB..

Linux is really too big for the E3; the OS, even the 10-year-old version the E3 
used, doesn't scale down well that far. Now, if you wanted to port something 
like Minix to it...

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 12:40, Nick Griffin 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
Thanks, do I download the latest version, its a shame this can’t run Android, 
Android uses Linux to run, well Android is Linux in a way, it come from it If 
Linux didn’t exist Android wouldn't.

Spanner..

From: Ralph Corderoy<mailto:ra...@inputplus.co.uk>
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎15‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎10‎:‎04
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Hi Nick,

> Has anyone got any ideas on how to show a gif on the E3 screen..?

If you have a working framebuffer then fbvis is a image viewer by
Ali Gholami Rudi who no longer uses X11.  See his `FRAMEBUFFER' section.
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flitcave.rudi.ir%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc23d3bd2aac54a03c6ed08d6c181602e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636909158734999545&sdata=R9NgcWO9AfU17MsJECM78S1jZbOirwzBTlgvtOxnrXQ%3D&reserved=0<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http://litcave.rudi.ir/&data=02%7c01%7c%7cd9bb905f844c498706b708d6c19b7f22%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636909270933083383&sdata=xj8H8mLF42Oxb0gYar6xQicn9vtg9ohRL9vH%2B%2BCLtPQ%3D&reserved=0>

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Re: [E3-hacking] Is it possible to install a Desktop Environment into E3 Linux

[Nick Griffin]

I believe it needs a hacked version of the original firmware really and 
everything would work and if you could hack the internet and email apps in the 
Main Software so it would work with a network adapter to download email and 
that.

But that will never happen because there is no interest in the device no more 
and its too old now. I would like a hacked version of it. You could put a 
Raspberry PI in it and would need a 6 inch screen. I would like to use it as 
intended, as a phone and that.

Spanner..

From: David Given<mailto:d...@cowlark.com>
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎15‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎11‎:‎57
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Android's also way too big! Even the earliest version (I have one on my desk) 
needed 192MB. Current versions get a bit uncomfortable in 2048MB..

Linux is really too big for the E3; the OS, even the 10-year-old version the E3 
used, doesn't scale down well that far. Now, if you wanted to port something 
like Minix to it...

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 12:40, Nick Griffin 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
Thanks, do I download the latest version, its a shame this can’t run Android, 
Android uses Linux to run, well Android is Linux in a way, it come from it If 
Linux didn’t exist Android wouldn't.

Spanner..

From: Ralph Corderoy<mailto:ra...@inputplus.co.uk>
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎15‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎10‎:‎04
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Hi Nick,

> Has anyone got any ideas on how to show a gif on the E3 screen..?

If you have a working framebuffer then fbvis is a image viewer by
Ali Gholami Rudi who no longer uses X11.  See his `FRAMEBUFFER' section.
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flitcave.rudi.ir%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc23d3bd2aac54a03c6ed08d6c181602e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636909158734999545&sdata=R9NgcWO9AfU17MsJECM78S1jZbOirwzBTlgvtOxnrXQ%3D&reserved=0<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http://litcave.rudi.ir/&data=02%7c01%7c%7c55fc20814aba4056b1a708d6c191259e%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636909226493582912&sdata=Mj5QB1qQspKqvPKiCIAIuuxQerS1U3HvjW4NLasb3RA%3D&reserved=0>

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Re: [E3-hacking] Another Idea about the Amstrad E3 Original Firmware

[Nick Griffin]

Sorry had to add abit I missed..😊

This is another idea I have, this is about the Amstrad E3 Original Firmware, I 
wish I thought of this before I flashed E3 Linux on mine. This will only work 
if your E3 is activated(unlocked).

The installer for installing E3 Linux on the E3 Release V2 uses a Ramdisk to 
boot up so it can flash E3 Linux to the E3s NAND.
Only read the part in brakets if you don’t know how to run the e3 Linux Release 
v2 so it runs its ramdisk.. move to “My idea…” if you do..
(You need to connect your E3 by Serial then download 
http://the.earth.li/pub/e3/E3_release_v2.tar.gz and uncompress it,this will 
only work on Linux, it don’t work on Windows,then click on readme to find out 
how to boot in to E3 Linux BUT DO NOT INSTALL IT, Only run the Installer but 
using the pbltool command in the readme Once you have logged on with root then 
you need to find out how to mount a MTD 
Partition.)

My idea is you should be able to mount the Amstrad Original file system,its in 
one of the mtd partitions,I don’t know of hand what command you would use to 
mount it, once you have mounted it, this may work but may not I can’t test it 
because I flashed mine with E3 Linux V2,I wish I didn’t now, anyway.
Once in the file system(you need the partition with the Main Software on) look 
for Delta_e_live.config its should be in there somewhere, If the E3 is works 
and is unlocked Activated, Plug in your USB Stick, copy it to your USB Stick 
for save keeping and to keep the config the way it is, like a snapshot of it 
(you add more time to the E3 by coping it over the file again, this is why you 
need a copy of the file)if you can, but should be able to copy it or edit it, 
if you do find it can you please share it, I would like to look at it, I am 
hoping its just a text file but this is just guess work will not know until we 
find the config file.

Let me know if this works or you find the config file.

Oh the E2 (Amstrad Emailer Plus) has one too, its called Gamma_e_live.confg. 
and works the same way as on the E3.

Hope this works.. 😊

Spanner..

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[E3-hacking] Another Idea about the Amstrad E3 Original Firmware

[Nick Griffin]

This is another idea I have, this is about the Amstrad E3 Original Firmware, I 
wish I thought of this before I flashed E3 Linux on mine. This will only work 
if your E3 that is activated(unlocked).
The installer for installing E3 Linux on the E3 Release V2 uses a Ramdisk to 
boot up so it can flash E3 Linux to the E3s NAND.
My idea is you should be able to mount the Amstrad Original file system,its in 
one of the mtd partitions,I don’t know of hand what command you would use to 
mount it, once you have mounted it, this may work but may not I can’t test it 
because I flashed mine with E3 Linux V2,I wish I didn’t now, anyway.
Once in the file system(you need the partition with the Main Software on) look 
for Delta_e_live.config its should be in there somewhere, If the E3 is works 
and is unlocked Activated, Plug in your USB Stick, copy it to your USB Stick 
for save keeping and to keep the config the way it is, like a snapshot of it 
(you add more time to the E3 by coping it over the file again, this is why you 
need a copy of the file)if you can, but should be able to copy it or edit it, 
if you do find it can you please share it, I would like to look at it, I am 
hoping its just a text file but this is just guess work will not know until we 
find the config file.

Let me know if this works or you find the config file.

Oh the E2 (Amstrad Emailer Plus) has one too, its called Gamma_e_live.confg. 
and works the same way as on the E3.

Hope this works.. 😊

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Re: [E3-hacking] Is it possible to install a Desktop Environment into E3 Linux

[Nick Griffin]

Thanks, do I download the latest version, its a shame this can’t run Android, 
Android uses Linux to run, well Android is Linux in a way, it come from it If 
Linux didn’t exist Android wouldn't.

Spanner..

From: Ralph Corderoy
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎15‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎10‎:‎04
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Hi Nick,

> Has anyone got any ideas on how to show a gif on the E3 screen..?

If you have a working framebuffer then fbvis is a image viewer by
Ali Gholami Rudi who no longer uses X11.  See his `FRAMEBUFFER' section.
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Re: [E3-hacking] Is it possible to install a Desktop Environment into E3 Linux

[Nick Griffin]

I guest it would be imposable, Has anyone got any ideas on how to show a gif on 
the E3 screen..?

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Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎14‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎21‎:‎39
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I used to run KDE 1.x and GNOME 1.x and even Mozilla on a PC with 32MB of RAM. 
But that was ~15 years ago. I think modern Mozilla would refuse to run with 
that.
You could probably try to run some lightweight WMs like IceWM or something.

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niedz., 14 kwi 2019 o 22:24 Antony Stone 
mailto:antony.st...@e3.open.source.it>> 
napisał(a):
On Sunday 14 April 2019 at 22:05:45, Nick Griffin wrote:

> I was thinking of the GNOME Desktop, It would need a light, or is it not
> possible because the E3 is not powerful enough..?

I don't know quite what sort of light you're thinking of using, but there is
no way the E3 has anything like enough RAM to run a "standard" Linux graphical
desktop environment.

The CPU may be slow, but without enough RAM you'll get nowhere.


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[E3-hacking] Is it possible to install a Desktop Environment into E3 Linux

[Nick Griffin]

I was thinking of the GNOME Desktop, It would need a light, or is it not 
possible because the E3 is not powerful enough..?

Has anyone looked into this..?

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Re: [E3-hacking] Amstrad E3 Will not Boot After Flashing a Backup of AMS E3 Original Firmware

[Nick Griffin]

Fingered it out, Had to stop pbltool from Prodding and had to tell the E3 I 
have already handshaked..😊and BING it worked, now have Linux back on the 
E3..feee..lol

Here is the command just incase it happens to anyone else…

Use it in a Terminal under Linux, well pbltool only works under Linux..😊 ..

“./pbltool -d  -f /dev/ttyS0 -n oe-install.pbl” I had to put -d command switch 
in for pbltool to stop prodding.. 😊 Its was looking for a singnal from the E3 
but was not getting one because the system was corrupt so couldn’t boot 
properly.

Worked it out in the end, and now I have worked something else out too,more in 
another email soon,(its good news,it about the Amstrad E3 Original Firmware and 
its file system)I need to go and have a tea break now.. 😊

Talk more later..

Spanner..

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I have made a video so you can see it for yourself, its just not doing 
anything,in pbltool it says Prodding and not going no further ,in Putty you 
only see Amstrad Delta - PBL V4.9 Build:1311 Assert Debug ICE
> PBL 32MB NAND
> 0MB.-->MEMv01.00.002,CopyLim=0022h,CodeEnd=0140h-->PBL..1MB...2MB*
and that's it stops and nothing happens. No more text comes up …dead... ☹ Its 
like it can’t talk thought serial no more.
If I can’t fix this I have to buy another one and the cheapest one on eBay is 
£30..wow.
Here is the video on you tube.. 
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>You'd need to look into what pbltool is seeking and not finding.
>But as long as you're still getting PBL printing out its banner, it's
>there and willing to alter the main flash memory for you.

I don’t know what I need to do next and how to find out what pbltool is looking 
for..?
I don’t know anything about pbltool,I only run it in the V2 release of E3 Linux 
to install it.
Can you please help.
Thanks.

Spanner..

From: Ralph Corderoy<mailto:ra...@inputplus.co.uk>
Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎14‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎09‎:‎50
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Hi Nick,

> On Putty it just comes up with this and that's it..
> “Amstrad Delta - PBL V4.9 Build:1311 Assert Debug ICE
> PBL 32MB NAND
> 0MB.-->MEMv01.00.002,CopyLim=0022h,CodeEnd=0140h-->PBL..1MB...2MB*”
> Dam have to buy another one now.

I agree with David; PBL survives, by design, and you can try again.

You later write:
> Its lights flash when you plug it in and thats it pbltool says
> probbing and nothing else...?

You'd need to look into what pbltool is seeking and not finding.
But as long as you're still getting PBL printing out its banner, it's
there and willing to alter the main flash memory for you.

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[E3-hacking] Amstrad E3 Will not Boot After Flashing a Backup of AMS E3 Original Firmware

[Nick Griffin]

I have made a video so you can see it for yourself, its just not doing 
anything,in pbltool it says Prodding and not going no further ,in Putty you 
only see Amstrad Delta - PBL V4.9 Build:1311 Assert Debug ICE
> PBL 32MB NAND
> 0MB.-->MEMv01.00.002,CopyLim=0022h,CodeEnd=0140h-->PBL..1MB...2MB*
and that's it stops and nothing happens. No more text comes up …dead... ☹ Its 
like it can’t talk thought serial no more.
If I can’t fix this I have to buy another one and the cheapest one on eBay is 
£30..wow.
Here is the video on you tube.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl8-QUlJvpU
Spanner..

From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎14‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎12‎:‎00
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>You'd need to look into what pbltool is seeking and not finding.
>But as long as you're still getting PBL printing out its banner, it's
>there and willing to alter the main flash memory for you.

I don’t know what I need to do next and how to find out what pbltool is looking 
for..?
I don’t know anything about pbltool,I only run it in the V2 release of E3 Linux 
to install it.
Can you please help.
Thanks.

Spanner..

From: Ralph Corderoy<mailto:ra...@inputplus.co.uk>
Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎14‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎09‎:‎50
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Hi Nick,

> On Putty it just comes up with this and that's it..
> “Amstrad Delta - PBL V4.9 Build:1311 Assert Debug ICE
> PBL 32MB NAND
> 0MB.-->MEMv01.00.002,CopyLim=0022h,CodeEnd=0140h-->PBL..1MB...2MB*”
> Dam have to buy another one now.

I agree with David; PBL survives, by design, and you can try again.

You later write:
> Its lights flash when you plug it in and thats it pbltool says
> probbing and nothing else...?

You'd need to look into what pbltool is seeking and not finding.
But as long as you're still getting PBL printing out its banner, it's
there and willing to alter the main flash memory for you.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Understanding the E3s Partitions

[Nick Griffin]

>You'd need to look into what pbltool is seeking and not finding.
>But as long as you're still getting PBL printing out its banner, it's
>there and willing to alter the main flash memory for you.

I don’t know what I need to do next and how to find out what pbltool is looking 
for..?
I don’t know anything about pbltool,I only run it in the V2 release of E3 Linux 
to install it.
Can you please help.
Thanks.

Spanner..

From: Ralph Corderoy
Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎14‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎09‎:‎50
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Hi Nick,

> On Putty it just comes up with this and that's it..
> “Amstrad Delta - PBL V4.9 Build:1311 Assert Debug ICE
> PBL 32MB NAND
> 0MB.-->MEMv01.00.002,CopyLim=0022h,CodeEnd=0140h-->PBL..1MB...2MB*”
> Dam have to buy another one now.

I agree with David; PBL survives, by design, and you can try again.

You later write:
> Its lights flash when you plug it in and thats it pbltool says
> probbing and nothing else...?

You'd need to look into what pbltool is seeking and not finding.
But as long as you're still getting PBL printing out its banner, it's
there and willing to alter the main flash memory for you.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Would Chafa work on E3 Linux for Animated gif on CLI

[Nick Griffin]

Hi..
I just wanted to know if I could install its tarball because E3 Linux don’t 
have a repository to install programs, but it might need 
dependencies so 
its trial and error to see which programs works and what don’t, I thought it 
was a good idea using it as photo viewer, the goal was to  put Linux on the E3 
but now, you have to find something to do with it otherwise what's the point of 
putting Linux on it in the first place, Well part of it is a learning curve and 
to see if it was possible, hats of to all that made it possible.. 😊 but it 
needs a end result,the whole idea is to make it better and useful, what it 
really needs is a basic desktop, something bit like what's on the Raspberry PI 
1 or Zero but the E3 is probably not powerful enough or it needs its own custom 
GUI.

It would be good if it had a splash screen while its booting so you know its 
doing something.

This is the only place I can ask, there's no support for E3 Linux anyway else.

It does need a repository of the programs that work with E3 Linux. That way it 
can be updated too, but it would need to be connected to the internet by a 
Ethernet adapter but only certain ones will work becase all it drivers are in 
its kernel, and have to be installed there to get a new device working,I know 
abit about Linux, well I did make Commodore OS.. 😊

Anyway hope you all  have a great day.. 😉

Spanner..

From: Ralph Corderoy
Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎14‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎09‎:‎36
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Hi,

> Chafa is a command-line utility that converts all kinds of images,
> including animated GIFs, into ANSI/Unicode character output that can
> be displayed in a terminal.

Can we stick to on-topic stuff, please?  We've been asleep on the list
for many years, and the flurry of emails is a bit of a shock.
Superfluous ones like this don't help.  :-)

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Re: [E3-hacking] Understanding the E3s Partitions

[Nick Griffin]

Its lights flash when you plug it in and thats it pbltool says probbing and 
nothing else...?



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


 Original message 
From: David Given 
Date: 13/04/2019 22:58 (GMT+00:00)
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer hardware/software 
Subject: Re: [E3-hacking] Understanding the E3s Partitions

It's pretty hard to brick them --- PBL's in a different ROM chip to the main 
flash (and I think you can't reflash it anyway?), so even if you've trashed the 
main flash PBL runs. So, you should be able to connect pbltool or pblq to it 
and read and reflash, even if it doesn't boot.


On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 at 21:47, Nick Griffin 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
Dam..Just tried to flash the E3 and now it don’t boot, ah well..☹
With that's code and it starred coming up with “Flashing Data to NAND Flash 
without EEC in not recommended”

On Putty it just comes up with this and that's it..
“Amstrad Delta - PBL V4.9 Build:1311 Assert Debug ICE
PBL 32MB NAND
0MB.-->MEMv01.00.002,CopyLim=0022h,CodeEnd=0140h-->PBL..1MB...2MB*”
Dam have to buy another one now. Ah well if you don’t try you’ll never learn.. 😊

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root@amsdelta<mailto:root@amsdelta>:~#  cat /proc/mtd
dev:  size   erasesize  name
mtd0: 0038 4000 "Kernel"
mtd1: 0004 4000 "u-boot"
mtd2: 0004 4000 "u-boot params"
mtd3: 0004 4000 "Amstrad LDR"
mtd4: 01b0 4000 "File system"
mtd5: 000c 4000 "PBL reserved"
 Just realised there are all the same Block size, look at the erasesize.
“flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 16” whats the 16 for at the end of the line, is it 
what block size to  erase, ( can’t work out what number to put there)could I 
just erase the whole partition(mtd0) with “flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 0”..? I 
don’t want to made a mistake..??

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎13‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎16‎:‎24
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
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mtd0
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x0038...*
mtd1
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004...*
mtd2
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004...
mtd3
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004...*
mtd4
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x01b0...*
mtd5
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x000c...

Why are there saying all the same block size..?

Only need to restore mtd0, mtd1, mtd3 and mtd4 so ones with a star(*) on.mtd2, 
mtd5 are not flashed over.

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎12‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎19‎:‎32
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
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Just copy the Amstrad Firmware to USB and as well flash Linux on the E3 so now 
I have to find a way to flash it back.. 😊 wow its takes a long time to boot, it 
took about a hour to copy the Amstrad Firmware over to USB.Is each file a copy 
of the partition(mtd0,1,2,3,4,5,) only mtd0,1,3 and 4 get flashed with the new 
system, so if the backups are complete copies then they could be flash back the 
same way, maybe something like this, taking the code for mdt0..

”if [ -e /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.0 ]; then
 echo Found Amstrad kernel.
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd0"
 flash_eraseall /dev/mtd0
 echo "  Writing Amstrad kernel to /dev/mtd0"
nandwrite -on /dev/mtd0 /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.0
fi”

Mtd0,2,3,4,5 Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
only need to restore mtd0,1,3 and 4 so ones with a * on.
mtd0: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0030*
mtd1: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004*
mtd2: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004
mtd3: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004*
mtd4: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x01b0*
mtd5: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x000c
I don’t know how much of the Nand you would need to erase for each partition..?
So lucky I recored the install..😊 I be uploading soon once I have edited it.
This is just guess work don’t know if it would work, need someone who knows 
about the code. If I manage to flash the Amstrad Firmware back and it works 
then you be able to flash any E3 fir

Re: [E3-hacking] Understanding the E3s Partitions

[Nick Griffin]

mtd0
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x0038...*
mtd1
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004...*
mtd2
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004...
mtd3
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004...*
mtd4
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x01b0...*
mtd5
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x000c...

Why are there saying all the same block size..?

Only need to restore mtd0, mtd1, mtd3 and mtd4 so ones with a star(*) on.mtd2, 
mtd5 are not flashed over.

Spanner..

From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎12‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎19‎:‎32
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
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Just copy the Amstrad Firmware to USB and as well flash Linux on the E3 so now 
I have to find a way to flash it back.. 😊 wow its takes a long time to boot, it 
took about a hour to copy the Amstrad Firmware over to USB.Is each file a copy 
of the partition(mtd0,1,2,3,4,5,) only mtd0,1,3 and 4 get flashed with the new 
system, so if the backups are complete copies then they could be flash back the 
same way, maybe something like this, taking the code for mdt0..

”if [ -e /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.0 ]; then
 echo Found Amstrad kernel.
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd0"
 flash_eraseall /dev/mtd0
 echo "  Writing Amstrad kernel to /dev/mtd0"
nandwrite -on /dev/mtd0 /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.0
fi”

Mtd0,2,3,4,5 Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
only need to restore mtd0,1,3 and 4 so ones with a * on.
mtd0: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0030*
mtd1: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004*
mtd2: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004
mtd3: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004*
mtd4: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x01b0*
mtd5: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x000c
I don’t know how much of the Nand you would need to erase for each partition..?
So lucky I recored the install..😊 I be uploading soon once I have edited it.
This is just guess work don’t know if it would work, need someone who knows 
about the code. If I manage to flash the Amstrad Firmware back and it works 
then you be able to flash any E3 firmware this way so even with one with the 
config change on it.

There is info here how to flash to mtd ..  
https://forum.doozan.com/read.php?3,16789,16800<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://forum.doozan.com/read.php?3%2c16789%2c16800&data=02%7c01%7c%7c43dd69f306b24fa4d01308d6bf7526b0%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636906907207602767&sdata=l0A1sVMwvXx2BYpNyQBhS72Osn/%2BKERDRDUddCciVB8%3D&reserved=0>

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Oh one more thing.. the USB memory stick,does it matter if its fat or fat32 
formatted to copy the 6 files over to it,it don’t say in the Readme..?

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“When it flash's Linux to the E3 it only uses partitions mtd0,mtd1,mtd3 and 
mtd4, so mtd2 and mtd3 is not used.”

mtd0 - kernel
mtd1 - PBL ( Maybe, I say this because Uboot is flashed there.)
mtd3 - ldr ( File System..? uses mtdblock3 of mtd3)
mtd4 - Root( Root File System,maybe ?? uses mtdblock4 of mtd4)

What are mtd2 and mtd5 used for..??

Trying to find out what each Partition is used for?

Is the Amstrad Install Script running in a Ramdisk..??
You have 2 Uboot images the same, one for flashing the other on for the install 
so you made it a bit like FEL mode where you hold down the FEL Button and can 
boot into Uboot +ramdisk  from you PC thought its usb cable that powers it then 
you can mount the system partition to get into files and folders, that's on 
TheC64 Mini.
Most Developing Boards now have the FEL button.

Just trying to find out more ,it dumps the firmware into 6 partitions, when it 
dumps them, can they be put back the way they are or do they need to be 
converted, so what I am say, are they raw files so they can’t be used the way 
they are at the moment…?

You can backup your firmware with this script without installing Linux on the 
E3,you can say no to installing it, right..?? if so I will try and see if I can 
back the E3 up to get the 6 backup files.

P.S Have not done anything with my E2Plus yet, if I can ba

Re: [E3-hacking] Understanding the E3s Partitions

[Nick Griffin]

Dam..Just tried to flash the E3 and now it don’t boot, ah well..☹
With that's code and it starred coming up with “Flashing Data to NAND Flash 
without EEC in not recommended”

On Putty it just comes up with this and that's it..
“Amstrad Delta - PBL V4.9 Build:1311 Assert Debug ICE
PBL 32MB NAND
0MB.-->MEMv01.00.002,CopyLim=0022h,CodeEnd=0140h-->PBL..1MB...2MB*”
Dam have to buy another one now. Ah well if you don’t try you’ll never learn.. 😊

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root@amsdelta<mailto:root@amsdelta>:~#  cat /proc/mtd
dev:  size   erasesize  name
mtd0: 0038 4000 "Kernel"
mtd1: 0004 4000 "u-boot"
mtd2: 0004 4000 "u-boot params"
mtd3: 0004 4000 "Amstrad LDR"
mtd4: 01b0 4000 "File system"
mtd5: 000c 4000 "PBL reserved"
 Just realised there are all the same Block size, look at the erasesize.
“flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 16” whats the 16 for at the end of the line, is it 
what block size to  erase, ( can’t work out what number to put there)could I 
just erase the whole partition(mtd0) with “flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 0”..? I 
don’t want to made a mistake..??

Spanner..

From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
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mtd0
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x0038...*
mtd1
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004...*
mtd2
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004...
mtd3
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004...*
mtd4
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x01b0...*
mtd5
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x000c...

Why are there saying all the same block size..?

Only need to restore mtd0, mtd1, mtd3 and mtd4 so ones with a star(*) on.mtd2, 
mtd5 are not flashed over.

Spanner..

From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎12‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎19‎:‎32
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
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Just copy the Amstrad Firmware to USB and as well flash Linux on the E3 so now 
I have to find a way to flash it back.. 😊 wow its takes a long time to boot, it 
took about a hour to copy the Amstrad Firmware over to USB.Is each file a copy 
of the partition(mtd0,1,2,3,4,5,) only mtd0,1,3 and 4 get flashed with the new 
system, so if the backups are complete copies then they could be flash back the 
same way, maybe something like this, taking the code for mdt0..

”if [ -e /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.0 ]; then
 echo Found Amstrad kernel.
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd0"
 flash_eraseall /dev/mtd0
 echo "  Writing Amstrad kernel to /dev/mtd0"
nandwrite -on /dev/mtd0 /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.0
fi”

Mtd0,2,3,4,5 Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
only need to restore mtd0,1,3 and 4 so ones with a * on.
mtd0: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0030*
mtd1: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004*
mtd2: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004
mtd3: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004*
mtd4: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x01b0*
mtd5: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x000c
I don’t know how much of the Nand you would need to erase for each partition..?
So lucky I recored the install..😊 I be uploading soon once I have edited it.
This is just guess work don’t know if it would work, need someone who knows 
about the code. If I manage to flash the Amstrad Firmware back and it works 
then you be able to flash any E3 firmware this way so even with one with the 
config change on it.

There is info here how to flash to mtd ..  
https://forum.doozan.com/read.php?3,16789,16800<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url%3Dhttps://forum.doozan.com/read.php?3%252c16789%252c16800%26data%3D02%257c01%257c%257c43dd69f306b24fa4d01308d6bf7526b0%257c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%257c1%257c0%257c636906907207602767%26sdata%3Dl0A1sVMwvXx2BYpNyQBhS72Osn/%252BKERDRDUddCciVB8%253D%26reserved%3D0&data=02%7c01%7c%7c4337d4d22ed34c948f7e08d6c0273e89%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636907672114917921&sdata=8zfyyhh%2Bl3lzg4S9X0RSMoAihn%2BsTAdIdxyDb7m8tzo%3D&reserved=0>

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From: Nick Griffin&

[E3-hacking] Would Chafa work on E3 Linux for Animated gif on CLI

[Nick Griffin]

https://github.com/hpjansson/chafa

Chafa is a command-line utility that converts all kinds of images, including 
animated GIFs, into ANSI/Unicode character output that can be displayed in a 
terminal.

It is highly configurable, with support for alpha transparency and multiple 
color modes and color spaces, combining selectable ranges of Unicode characters 
to produce the desired output.

The core functionality is provided by a C library with a public, 
well-documented API.

It has official web pages and C API 
documentation online

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Re: [E3-hacking] Understanding the E3s Partitions

[Nick Griffin]

root@amsdelta<mailto:root@amsdelta>:~#  cat /proc/mtd
dev:  size   erasesize  name
mtd0: 0038 4000 "Kernel"
mtd1: 0004 4000 "u-boot"
mtd2: 0004 4000 "u-boot params"
mtd3: 0004 4000 "Amstrad LDR"
mtd4: 01b0 4000 "File system"
mtd5: 000c 4000 "PBL reserved"
 Just realised there are all the same Block size, look at the erasesize.
“flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 16” whats the 16 for at the end of the line, is it 
what block size to  erase, ( can’t work out what number to put there)could I 
just erase the whole partition(mtd0) with “flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 0”..? I 
don’t want to made a mistake..??

Spanner..

From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎13‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎16‎:‎24
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
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mtd0
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x0038...*
mtd1
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004...*
mtd2
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004...
mtd3
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004...*
mtd4
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x01b0...*
mtd5
Block Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
Dumping data starting at 0x and ending at 0x000c...

Why are there saying all the same block size..?

Only need to restore mtd0, mtd1, mtd3 and mtd4 so ones with a star(*) on.mtd2, 
mtd5 are not flashed over.

Spanner..

From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎12‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎19‎:‎32
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Just copy the Amstrad Firmware to USB and as well flash Linux on the E3 so now 
I have to find a way to flash it back.. 😊 wow its takes a long time to boot, it 
took about a hour to copy the Amstrad Firmware over to USB.Is each file a copy 
of the partition(mtd0,1,2,3,4,5,) only mtd0,1,3 and 4 get flashed with the new 
system, so if the backups are complete copies then they could be flash back the 
same way, maybe something like this, taking the code for mdt0..

”if [ -e /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.0 ]; then
 echo Found Amstrad kernel.
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd0"
 flash_eraseall /dev/mtd0
 echo "  Writing Amstrad kernel to /dev/mtd0"
nandwrite -on /dev/mtd0 /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.0
fi”

Mtd0,2,3,4,5 Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
only need to restore mtd0,1,3 and 4 so ones with a * on.
mtd0: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0030*
mtd1: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004*
mtd2: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004
mtd3: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004*
mtd4: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x01b0*
mtd5: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x000c
I don’t know how much of the Nand you would need to erase for each partition..?
So lucky I recored the install..😊 I be uploading soon once I have edited it.
This is just guess work don’t know if it would work, need someone who knows 
about the code. If I manage to flash the Amstrad Firmware back and it works 
then you be able to flash any E3 firmware this way so even with one with the 
config change on it.

There is info here how to flash to mtd ..  
https://forum.doozan.com/read.php?3,16789,16800<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://forum.doozan.com/read.php?3%2c16789%2c16800&data=02%7c01%7c%7c43dd69f306b24fa4d01308d6bf7526b0%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaa%7c1%7c0%7c636906907207602767&sdata=l0A1sVMwvXx2BYpNyQBhS72Osn/%2BKERDRDUddCciVB8%3D&reserved=0>

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Oh one more thing.. the USB memory stick,does it matter if its fat or fat32 
formatted to copy the 6 files over to it,it don’t say in the Readme..?

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎12‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎14‎:‎02
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“When it flash's Linux to the E3 it only uses partitions mtd0,mtd1,mtd3 and 
mtd4, so mtd2 and mtd3 is not used.”

mtd0 - kernel
mtd1 - PBL ( Maybe, I say this because Uboot is flashed there.)
mtd3 - ldr ( File System..? uses mtdblock3 of mtd3)
mtd4 - Root( Root File System,maybe ?? uses mtdblock4 of mtd4)

What are mtd2 and mtd5 used for..??

Trying to find out what each Partition is used for?

Is the Amstrad Install Scrip

[E3-hacking] Can you Loading a Animated gif into E3 Linux and display on the E3 screen

[Nick Griffin]

Can you Loading a Animated gif into E3 Linux and display on the E3 screen say 
from the USB Stick so its like a sceen saver..?

I have animated gifs of the E3s adverts..😊 I wanted to see if I can get them to 
play on the screen and maybe then by pressing the advent button on the screen 
it stops them and put it back to Linux command line. It be good for displaying 
them and how it looked with the adverts on E3 screen in 2004/5.

Well you could then use it as a picture viewer then.


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Re: [E3-hacking] Understanding the E3s Partitions

[Nick Griffin]

Its Cliff Lawson not Clive,who is Clive.. What Clive Sinclair … 😊

“Aren't PBL and Uboot two distinct separate things?”
Yes I know they are but mtd0 is where boot (like the bios on a PC) would be so 
PBL or Uboot would be there.

Example..  
https://forum.doozan.com/read.php?3,16789,16800

device nand0 , # parts = 5
 #: namesizeoffset  mask_flags
 0: u-boot  0x0020  0x  0
 1: uImage  0x0030  0x0020  0
 2: uImage2 0x0030  0x0050  0
 3: failsafe0x0080  0x0080  0
 4: root0x0700  0x0100  0

active partition: nand0,2 - (uImage2) 0x0030 @ 0x0050

defaults:
mtdids  : none
mtdparts: none

I videoed the install but I shorting it so its like 22 minutes long. Its took 
about a hour and a half to do, the backing up of the E3 took the longest, 
flashing Linux took about 2 to 3 minutes because the OS is not very big. but if 
you want Linux on your E3 you don’t need to install it, the Installer is a 
ramdisk so you can test it on that. Its like FEL mode. I just want to record it 
for my channel on You Tube and false me to have to restore it.

Its say on that website.. “If you need to restore mtd1 to mtd4, then calculate 
the number of blocks for each mtd (i.e. a block is 128K, 1M is 8 blocks)”

 Erase mtd0:

#flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 16
Erase Total 16 Units
Performing Flash Erase of length 131072 at offset 0x1e done

flash _erase line I got from this site but it will not delete the right amount 
of blocks.
So 16 units make the block size 131072 so what is the unit for block size 
16384,mtd0 to 5 are all the same block size..?? I am not great at maths…lol

Thank for the help Ralph..😊 Once I get this working again I move on to the 
E2(Amstrad E-M@iler Plus)..😊

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From: Ralph Corderoy
Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎13‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎10‎:‎03
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software

Hi Nick,

> mtd0 - kernel
> mtd1 - PBL ( Maybe, I say this because Uboot is flashed there.)

Aren't PBL and Uboot two distinct separate things?  PBL was written by
Clive at Amstrad.  On the E2, it's the sole occupant of the small 64 KiB
flash so it isn't at risk of corruption when it writes to the main 8 MiB
flash.
https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Finputplus.co.uk%2Fralph%2Femailer%2Femailerplus.html%23hardware-ics&data=02%7C01%7C%7C98de71a5da4c439d992708d6bfeeecbb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636907430224288747&sdata=LqkjcsSy62DcL04jS5U0mhtqVbReqh9NVioinst3eyk%3D&reserved=0

> What are mtd2 and mtd5 used for..??
> Trying to find out what each Partition is used for?

If you have extracted the contents of those partitions then start poking
around their contents.  file(1), hexdump(1), etc.  And Google some
resources on reverse-engineering flash blobs to identify their contents.

> One of the problem with the E2 is it don’t run Linux
...
> The E3 had a different CPU because it need a MMU for the Colour LCD
> screen so need to be more powerful than the E1,E2.

I think Clive wanted to take advantage of Linux for the E3, given its
higher, more complex, workload and thus needed the MMU.

--
Cheers, Ralph.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Understanding the E3s Partitions

[Nick Griffin]

Made a mistake.. ..☹
This at the end of the code e3-nand-backup.4, its says ” nandwrite -on 
/dev/mtd3  /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.3” what it should be mtd4 and 4 at the 
end of this code “nandwrite -on /dev/mtd4  /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.4”

if [ -e /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.4 ]; then
 echo Found e3-nand-backup.4
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd4"
 flash_erase /dev/mtd4 0 16
 echo "  Writing e3-nand-backup.4 to /dev/mtd4"
 nandwrite -on /dev/mtd4  /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.4
fi


echo "Done.
“

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎12‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎22‎:‎04
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Can someone look at this…
Just edited the ams-delta-install script and renamed it to 
ams-delta-restore-e3-install

I can do all the work and tests, Just need a expert to look at the code and see 
if it OK because I am just reading up on MTD NAND write and dumping stuff on 
the net. This is how you learn you ask someone to help you and they help you 
and if you are wrong then you will remember how to do it next time… 😊

”#!/bin/sh

if (! grep -q /dev/sda1 /proc/mounts); then
 echo "No install media mounted; couldn't find /dev/sda in /proc/mounts"
 exit 1;
fi

echo

echo "This process will completely restore your E3's NAND."
echo This will try and restore The Amstrad firmware on the device. Are you
echo -n "sure you wish to continue? [y/N]: "

read i

if [ ! "x$i" = "xy" -a ! "x$i" = "xY" ]; then
 echo
 echo Aborting.
 exit 1
fi

echo
echo Starting restore...

if [ -e /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.0 ]; then
 echo Found e3-nand-backup.0
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd0"
 flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 16
 echo "  Writing e3-nand-backup.0 to /dev/mtd0"
 nandwrite -on /dev/mtd0 /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.0
fi

if [ -e /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.1 ]; then
 echo Found e3-nand-backup.1
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd1"
 flash_erase /dev/mtd1 0 16
 echo "  Writing e3-nand-backup.1 to /dev/mtd1"
 nandwrite -on /dev/mtd1 /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.1
fi

if [ -e /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.3 ]; then
 echo Found e3-nand-backup.3
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd3"
 flash_erase /dev/mtd3 0 16
 echo "  Writing e3-nand-backup.3 to /dev/mtd3"
 nandwrite -on /dev/mtd3  /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.3
fi

if [ -e /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.4 ]; then
 echo Found e3-nand-backup.4
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd4"
 flash_erase /dev/mtd4 0 16
 echo "  Writing e3-nand-backup.4 to /dev/mtd4"
 nandwrite -on /dev/mtd3  /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.3
fi


echo "Done."

What do you think… Would this work…?


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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎12‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎19‎:‎32
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Just copy the Amstrad Firmware to USB and as well flash Linux on the E3 so now 
I have to find a way to flash it back.. 😊 wow its takes a long time to boot, it 
took about a hour to copy the Amstrad Firmware over to USB.Is each file a copy 
of the partition(mtd0,1,2,3,4,5,) only mtd0,1,3 and 4 get flashed with the new 
system, so if the backups are complete copies then they could be flash back the 
same way, maybe something like this, taking the code for mdt0..

”if [ -e /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.0 ]; then
 echo Found Amstrad kernel.
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd0"
 flash_eraseall /dev/mtd0
 echo "  Writing Amstrad kernel to /dev/mtd0"
nandwrite -on /dev/mtd0 /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.0
fi”

Mtd0,2,3,4,5 Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
only need to restore mtd0,1,3 and 4 so ones with a * on.
mtd0: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0030*
mtd1: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004*
mtd2: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004
mtd3: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004*
mtd4: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x01b0*
mtd5: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x000c
I don’t know how much of the Nand you would need to erase for each partition..?
So lucky I recored the install..😊 I be uploading soon once I have edited it.
This is just guess work don’t know if it would work, need someone who knows 
about the code. If I manage to flash the Amstrad Firmware back and it works 
then you be able to flash any E3 firmware this way so even with one with the 
config change on it.

There is info here how to flash to mtd ..  
https://forum.doozan.com/read.php?3,16789,16800<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://forum.doozan.com/read.php?3%2c16789%2c16800&data=02%7c01%7c%7c4e14113df08b4714a45708d6bf8a762e%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636906998736410136&sdata=4rRkSMMFT0JJOseEcWKRtZOmqeUCO7RRRhFioD6wIZ0%3D&res

Re: [E3-hacking] Understanding the E3s Partitions

[Nick Griffin]

Can someone look at this…
Just edited the ams-delta-install script and renamed it to 
ams-delta-restore-e3-install

I can do all the work and tests, Just need a expert to look at the code and see 
if it OK because I am just reading up on MTD NAND write and dumping stuff on 
the net. This is how you learn you ask someone to help you and they help you 
and if you are wrong then you will remember how to do it next time… 😊

”#!/bin/sh

if (! grep -q /dev/sda1 /proc/mounts); then
 echo "No install media mounted; couldn't find /dev/sda in /proc/mounts"
 exit 1;
fi

echo

echo "This process will completely restore your E3's NAND."
echo This will try and restore The Amstrad firmware on the device. Are you
echo -n "sure you wish to continue? [y/N]: "

read i

if [ ! "x$i" = "xy" -a ! "x$i" = "xY" ]; then
 echo
 echo Aborting.
 exit 1
fi

echo
echo Starting restore...

if [ -e /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.0 ]; then
 echo Found e3-nand-backup.0
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd0"
 flash_erase /dev/mtd0 0 16
 echo "  Writing e3-nand-backup.0 to /dev/mtd0"
 nandwrite -on /dev/mtd0 /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.0
fi

if [ -e /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.1 ]; then
 echo Found e3-nand-backup.1
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd1"
 flash_erase /dev/mtd1 0 16
 echo "  Writing e3-nand-backup.1 to /dev/mtd1"
 nandwrite -on /dev/mtd1 /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.1
fi

if [ -e /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.3 ]; then
 echo Found e3-nand-backup.3
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd3"
 flash_erase /dev/mtd3 0 16
 echo "  Writing e3-nand-backup.3 to /dev/mtd3"
 nandwrite -on /dev/mtd3  /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.3
fi

if [ -e /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.4 ]; then
 echo Found e3-nand-backup.4
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd4"
 flash_erase /dev/mtd4 0 16
 echo "  Writing e3-nand-backup.4 to /dev/mtd4"
 nandwrite -on /dev/mtd3  /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.3
fi


echo "Done."

What do you think… Would this work…?


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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎12‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎19‎:‎32
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Just copy the Amstrad Firmware to USB and as well flash Linux on the E3 so now 
I have to find a way to flash it back.. 😊 wow its takes a long time to boot, it 
took about a hour to copy the Amstrad Firmware over to USB.Is each file a copy 
of the partition(mtd0,1,2,3,4,5,) only mtd0,1,3 and 4 get flashed with the new 
system, so if the backups are complete copies then they could be flash back the 
same way, maybe something like this, taking the code for mdt0..

”if [ -e /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.0 ]; then
 echo Found Amstrad kernel.
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd0"
 flash_eraseall /dev/mtd0
 echo "  Writing Amstrad kernel to /dev/mtd0"
nandwrite -on /dev/mtd0 /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.0
fi”

Mtd0,2,3,4,5 Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
only need to restore mtd0,1,3 and 4 so ones with a * on.
mtd0: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0030*
mtd1: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004*
mtd2: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004
mtd3: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004*
mtd4: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x01b0*
mtd5: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x000c
I don’t know how much of the Nand you would need to erase for each partition..?
So lucky I recored the install..😊 I be uploading soon once I have edited it.
This is just guess work don’t know if it would work, need someone who knows 
about the code. If I manage to flash the Amstrad Firmware back and it works 
then you be able to flash any E3 firmware this way so even with one with the 
config change on it.

There is info here how to flash to mtd ..  
https://forum.doozan.com/read.php?3,16789,16800<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://forum.doozan.com/read.php?3%2c16789%2c16800&data=02%7c01%7c%7c43dd69f306b24fa4d01308d6bf7526b0%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636906907207602767&sdata=l0A1sVMwvXx2BYpNyQBhS72Osn/%2BKERDRDUddCciVB8%3D&reserved=0>

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎12‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎14‎:‎10
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Oh one more thing.. the USB memory stick,does it matter if its fat or fat32 
formatted to copy the 6 files over to it,it don’t say in the Readme..?

Spanner..

From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎12‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎14‎:‎02
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

“When it flash's Linux to the E3 it only uses partitions mtd0,mtd1,mtd3 and 
mtd4, so mtd2 and mtd3 is not used.”

mtd0 - kernel
mtd1 - PBL ( Maybe, I s

Re: [E3-hacking] Understanding the E3s Partitions

[Nick Griffin]

Just copy the Amstrad Firmware to USB and as well flash Linux on the E3 so now 
I have to find a way to flash it back.. 😊 wow its takes a long time to boot, it 
took about a hour to copy the Amstrad Firmware over to USB.Is each file a copy 
of the partition(mtd0,1,2,3,4,5,) only mtd0,1,3 and 4 get flashed with the new 
system, so if the backups are complete copies then they could be flash back the 
same way, maybe something like this, taking the code for mdt0..

”if [ -e /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.0 ]; then
 echo Found Amstrad kernel.
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd0"
 flash_eraseall /dev/mtd0
 echo "  Writing Amstrad kernel to /dev/mtd0"
nandwrite -on /dev/mtd0 /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.0
fi”

Mtd0,2,3,4,5 Size 16384,Page Size 512, 00B Size 16
only need to restore mtd0,1,3 and 4 so ones with a * on.
mtd0: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0030*
mtd1: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004*
mtd2: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004
mtd3: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x0004*
mtd4: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x01b0*
mtd5: Dumping Data Starting at 0x and ending at 0x000c
I don’t know how much of the Nand you would need to erase for each partition..?
So lucky I recored the install..😊 I be uploading soon once I have edited it.
This is just guess work don’t know if it would work, need someone who knows 
about the code. If I manage to flash the Amstrad Firmware back and it works 
then you be able to flash any E3 firmware this way so even with one with the 
config change on it.

There is info here how to flash to mtd ..  
https://forum.doozan.com/read.php?3,16789,16800

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎12‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎14‎:‎10
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Oh one more thing.. the USB memory stick,does it matter if its fat or fat32 
formatted to copy the 6 files over to it,it don’t say in the Readme..?

Spanner..

From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎12‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎14‎:‎02
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

“When it flash's Linux to the E3 it only uses partitions mtd0,mtd1,mtd3 and 
mtd4, so mtd2 and mtd3 is not used.”

mtd0 - kernel
mtd1 - PBL ( Maybe, I say this because Uboot is flashed there.)
mtd3 - ldr ( File System..? uses mtdblock3 of mtd3)
mtd4 - Root( Root File System,maybe ?? uses mtdblock4 of mtd4)

What are mtd2 and mtd5 used for..??

Trying to find out what each Partition is used for?

Is the Amstrad Install Script running in a Ramdisk..??
You have 2 Uboot images the same, one for flashing the other on for the install 
so you made it a bit like FEL mode where you hold down the FEL Button and can 
boot into Uboot +ramdisk  from you PC thought its usb cable that powers it then 
you can mount the system partition to get into files and folders, that's on 
TheC64 Mini.
Most Developing Boards now have the FEL button.

Just trying to find out more ,it dumps the firmware into 6 partitions, when it 
dumps them, can they be put back the way they are or do they need to be 
converted, so what I am say, are they raw files so they can’t be used the way 
they are at the moment…?

You can backup your firmware with this script without installing Linux on the 
E3,you can say no to installing it, right..?? if so I will try and see if I can 
back the E3 up to get the 6 backup files.

P.S Have not done anything with my E2Plus yet, if I can backup its firmware and 
then flash it back then I can fix the dead E2s out there, but I need help.
If I can backup its firmware I am willing to share it.But don’t worry my E2Plus 
is going no where.. 😊 Just been looking at you page Ralph,One of the problem 
with the E2 is it don’t run Linux, I am trying to find out more about its 
firmware at the moment.
The E1 and E2 use the same Firmware and same CPU Sharp LH79531 ARM (L136 00B), 
the only difference in them is the Plus had ZX Spectrum games. So I might be 
able to use the firmware from the E2 on the E1. The E3 had a different CPU 
because it need a MMU for the Colour LCD screen so need to be more powerful 
than the E1,E2.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Understanding the E3s Partitions

[Nick Griffin]

Oh one more thing.. the USB memory stick,does it matter if its fat or fat32 
formatted to copy the 6 files over to it,it don’t say in the Readme..?

Spanner..

From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎12‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎14‎:‎02
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

“When it flash's Linux to the E3 it only uses partitions mtd0,mtd1,mtd3 and 
mtd4, so mtd2 and mtd3 is not used.”

mtd0 - kernel
mtd1 - PBL ( Maybe, I say this because Uboot is flashed there.)
mtd3 - ldr ( File System..? uses mtdblock3 of mtd3)
mtd4 - Root( Root File System,maybe ?? uses mtdblock4 of mtd4)

What are mtd2 and mtd5 used for..??

Trying to find out what each Partition is used for?

Is the Amstrad Install Script running in a Ramdisk..??
You have 2 Uboot images the same, one for flashing the other on for the install 
so you made it a bit like FEL mode where you hold down the FEL Button and can 
boot into Uboot +ramdisk  from you PC thought its usb cable that powers it then 
you can mount the system partition to get into files and folders, that's on 
TheC64 Mini.
Most Developing Boards now have the FEL button.

Just trying to find out more ,it dumps the firmware into 6 partitions, when it 
dumps them, can they be put back the way they are or do they need to be 
converted, so what I am say, are they raw files so they can’t be used the way 
they are at the moment…?

You can backup your firmware with this script without installing Linux on the 
E3,you can say no to installing it, right..?? if so I will try and see if I can 
back the E3 up to get the 6 backup files.

P.S Have not done anything with my E2Plus yet, if I can backup its firmware and 
then flash it back then I can fix the dead E2s out there, but I need help.
If I can backup its firmware I am willing to share it.But don’t worry my E2Plus 
is going no where.. 😊 Just been looking at you page Ralph,One of the problem 
with the E2 is it don’t run Linux, I am trying to find out more about its 
firmware at the moment.
The E1 and E2 use the same Firmware and same CPU Sharp LH79531 ARM (L136 00B), 
the only difference in them is the Plus had ZX Spectrum games. So I might be 
able to use the firmware from the E2 on the E1. The E3 had a different CPU 
because it need a MMU for the Colour LCD screen so need to be more powerful 
than the E1,E2.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Understanding the E3s Partitions

[Nick Griffin]

“When it flash's Linux to the E3 it only uses partitions mtd0,mtd1,mtd3 and 
mtd4, so mtd2 and mtd3 is not used.”

mtd0 - kernel
mtd1 - PBL ( Maybe, I say this because Uboot is flashed there.)
mtd3 - ldr ( File System..? uses mtdblock3 of mtd3)
mtd4 - Root( Root File System,maybe ?? uses mtdblock4 of mtd4)

What are mtd2 and mtd5 used for..??

Trying to find out what each Partition is used for?

Is the Amstrad Install Script running in a Ramdisk..??
You have 2 Uboot images the same, one for flashing the other on for the install 
so you made it a bit like FEL mode where you hold down the FEL Button and can 
boot into Uboot +ramdisk  from you PC thought its usb cable that powers it then 
you can mount the system partition to get into files and folders, that's on 
TheC64 Mini.
Most Developing Boards now have the FEL button.

Just trying to find out more ,it dumps the firmware into 6 partitions, when it 
dumps them, can they be put back the way they are or do they need to be 
converted, so what I am say, are they raw files so they can’t be used the way 
they are at the moment…?

You can backup your firmware with this script without installing Linux on the 
E3,you can say no to installing it, right..?? if so I will try and see if I can 
back the E3 up to get the 6 backup files.

P.S Have not done anything with my E2Plus yet, if I can backup its firmware and 
then flash it back then I can fix the dead E2s out there, but I need help.
If I can backup its firmware I am willing to share it.But don’t worry my E2Plus 
is going no where.. 😊 Just been looking at you page Ralph,One of the problem 
with the E2 is it don’t run Linux, I am trying to find out more about its 
firmware at the moment.
The E1 and E2 use the same Firmware and same CPU Sharp LH79531 ARM (L136 00B), 
the only difference in them is the Plus had ZX Spectrum games. So I might be 
able to use the firmware from the E2 on the E1. The E3 had a different CPU 
because it need a MMU for the Colour LCD screen so need to be more powerful 
than the E1,E2.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Getting the E3 Working again

[Nick Griffin]

Thanks..😊 You host it on your PC did you say, I am going to be doing that soon, 
I did it years ago, I use a wampserver on Windows because you install it and 
works and all I have to do is point it to my outside IP then a domain name and 
its done then start adding pages, I use to host a forum that way but my 
internet was to slow, now its not.

Going to host the old Amstrad website from 2004 and Cliff old UK Online site(UK 
Online was owned by Sky too and they closed it in 2011 the same time Amstrad 
was close down, that's why Cliff’s site disappeared)Sky buys companies and take 
there technology and add it to there own and then shut it down,it sound like 
the Borg to me.. SKY Resistant is Futile… 😊

If you are wondering why I am not using the Amstrad E2(Plus) its because they 
are rare with the Configuration Change on and I don’t want to ware it out, that 
why I want to find a way of backing up its firmware, so if the hardware fails, 
all I need is another E2(Plus) to replace it with.
And I share it here too and then the E2 Plus can be of some use of all the 
other E2s out there that are deactivated.
Did anyone manage to backup the E2s firmware or hack it at all..?
All I have seen is the E3 hacked to install Linux on..?

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From: Jonathan McDowell<mailto:nood...@earth.li>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎12‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎07‎:‎38
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On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 09:02:51PM +0000, Nick Griffin wrote:
> Who owns the wiki page at 
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.earth.li%2FE3&data=02%7C01%7C%7C3ad8b110e0834f7ac97d08d6bf11877c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636906479333994180&sdata=Y7ZdIIgpga9XQDtMnEs9LYSpQ%2FCWUNzXbLxALrc6yE4%3D&reserved=0
>  would it be ok if I
> up dated it,

It's running on my machine but go ahead and do any updates you think
would make it more useful - the whole point of having it as a wiki was
to make it possible for anyone to update.

(Thanks to spammers the process of registering might be a little tricky,
but let me know if you hit problems.)

J.

--
If a program is useful, it must be changed.

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[E3-hacking] Wheres your Amstrad Emailer..?

[Nick Griffin]

I have mine next to me near my PC, its on the Emailer page on Wikipedia, I 
still use it to make a call if I want, I sometime get it to play demo mode..😊

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Amstrad_E-mailer_Plus_and_E3.jpg

My Amstrad E2CC Plus is on the left and E3 is on the right.

Still looking out for a E3 with the Configuration Change on but its very rare. 
I have it on my E2 Plus and was the only one I have seen on eBay.

If I could dump the firmware on the E2CC(CC stands for Config Change) I could 
share it.

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[E3-hacking] Getting the E3 Working again

[Nick Griffin]

Who owns the wiki page at https://wiki.earth.li/E3 would it be ok if I up dated 
it, I have up dated the Emailer and Amstrad Pages on Wikipedia and added 
Jonathans McDowell comment from his’s website about the hardware, and what it 
is, if you look at it now its a lot bigger now,I explain about how it 
deactivates after 3 months and about the Configuration Change. I might be 
adding more soon.I have found out a lot more, been taking to Cliff, and that 
file I found (delta_e_live.config) is the file that it downloads to keep it(a 
live)activated, it keeps it working, it gets deleted after the time runs out 
and deactivates the emailer, they all work the same, they all need that file to 
function that why it has e and live in its name, emailer live and the more it 
downloaded the file the more time is added to the emailer,3 months was added 
each time it downloaded the file, so if can’t connect to the server(Amserve) 
but it connects to the server twice in the same day the Emailer would be a live 
for 6 months(if you never connected it for 6 months it would stay live for that 
time),mine lasted 3 months so it connected once before it was turned off, my E3 
was last used in 2006 online until last year when I got it from eBay and 
started to use it all the time, I use it for looking at the time and making 
calls.

The only way to keep the E3 Emailer activated is to flash a copy of the 
firmware that has been registered and activated for 3 months or more or has the 
configuration change on but that would be like looking for a needle in a 
haystack, they are very rare, so when it deactivates(runs out of time) flash it 
again, its would be like a snapshot of the emailers state.

You can’t activate E1,E2 or E3 that are deactivated because the technology 
don’t existed anymore that added time to them and would activated them, you 
need the Amserve server to do it, You would have to make a HTTP server and get 
the Emailer to connect to it and fool it into thinking its connected to Amserve 
and it would need to download the delta_e_live.config(Emailer Live 
Configuration file) but would need the same PI address (http://212.225.36.174) 
that points to the Emailer Live file because the PI is hard coded into the 
emaler so you can’t change it.so the server would have to have that IP address 
and login and password to Amserve too for it to work.

The Way forward would be the Amstrad Installer Script and see how it dumps the 
Amstrad E3 Emailer firmware into 6 files and reverse engineer it so it flashes 
the Amstrad Firmware back to the E3,it hacks it because it should not be able 
to do it Because Amstrad didn’t want there hardware used this way. But all 
Linux based devices get hacked.

the Amstrad Installer Script is a Bash script and use about 22 lines to nand 
dump the Nand flash from the E3 to the USB Stick in the back of the E3.

Looks like dev/mtd has 6 partitions :0,1,2,3,4,5 (mtd0,mtd1,mtd2 and so on)so 
each partition would be part of the system.

When it flash's Linux to the E3 it only uses partitions mtd0,mtd1,mtd3 and 
mtd4, so mtd2 and mtd3 is not used.

If this could be worked out then this would get your E3 working again, you 
would need a working E3 emailer as the donor system.

I have copied the Amstrad Install script on here so if you want to look at it 
to see if you help,you don’t have to do it if you don’t want to.

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#!/bin/sh

if (! grep -q /dev/sda1 /proc/mounts); then
 echo "No install media mounted; couldn't find /dev/sda in /proc/mounts"
 exit 1;
fi

echo Do you wish to backup your existing E3 NAND? If you say yes then 6
echo "e3-nand-backup. files will be written containing the current contents"
echo of your flash.
echo -n "[y/N]: "

read i
if [ "x$i" = "xy" -o "x$i" = "xY" ]; then
 echo Backing up NAND. Be patient - this can take a few hours.
 for i in 0 1 2 3 4 5; do
  echo "   mtd$i"
  nanddump -f /media/sda1/e3-nand-backup.$i /dev/mtd$i
 done
else
 echo Skipping NAND backup.
fi

echo

echo "Ready to install. This process will completely wipe your E3's NAND."
echo The Amstrad firmware will no longer exist on the device. Are you
echo -n "sure you wish to continue? [y/N]: "

read i

if [ ! "x$i" = "xy" -a ! "x$i" = "xY" ]; then
 echo
 echo Aborting.
 exit 1
fi

echo
echo Starting install.

if [ -e /media/sda1/uImage ]; then
 echo Found a kernel.
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd0"
 flash_eraseall /dev/mtd0
 echo "  Writing kernel to /dev/mtd0"
 nandwrite -p /dev/mtd0 /media/sda1/uImage
fi

if [ -e /media/sda1/u-boot.bin ]; then
 echo Found u-boot.bin
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd1"
 flash_eraseall /dev/mtd1
 echo "  Writing u-boot to /dev/mtd1"
 nandwrite -p /dev/mtd1 /media/sda1/u-boot.bin
fi

if [ -e /media/sda1/ldr.img ]; then
 echo Found ldr.img
 echo "  Erasing /dev/mtd3"
 flash_eraseall /dev/mtd3
 echo "  Writing ldr.img to /dev/mtd3"
 dd if=/media/sda1/ldr.img of=/dev/mtdbl

[E3-hacking] ZX Spectrum Games

[Nick Griffin]

Anyone know what all the games were that were available at the time, is there a 
list if them..?

I only know of 5 or 6 I think, Donkey Kong, Tetris, Space Invaders, Jetpac, 
Crazy Cars and Pac man, I wonder if it had all the ZX Spectrum games in its 
library..??
Donkey Kong was the first one I downloaded… 😊

OH I just noticed Cliff Lawson's name in the Demo that runs if you hold CALC 
and SHIFT, its on the Address Book Page ..HAHAHHA.I thought I had seen his 
name before...

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Re: [E3-hacking] NAND backup

[Nick Griffin]

So if I flash V2 Linux http://the.earth.li/pub/e3/ to my E3 it will backup the 
original firmware first before flashing V2 on to the E3,is that what your 
saying,I need to know cos,I would need to flash it back to put back to normal 
again,I don’t want Linux on it because I can still use it as a phone at the 
moment because of the bug in the Main Software V2, I want to activate(unlock) 
it.

Just out of curiosity,has anyone tried to run a ZX Spectrum Emulator on it with 
the Linux build on it, you would have to compile it on it..? That’s one thing 
you could use it for, or you could take all its insides out and replace it with 
a ZX Spectrum Vega, its runs on composite so would have get a new screen, 
screens are better now,the E3 screen has a shadow on it when things are moving 
fast a cross it, look at the video I post showing the games on it you can see 
it on there. Its not a bad screen for been made in 2003.. 😊

I like the E3 I use to use the Plus when I got it in 2004, I even downloaded a 
ringtone to see what its like, its like the old mobiles ringtones before MP3, 
Polyphonic, sounds like the old Game and Watch handhelds from the 80s.I only 
downloaded one took about 2 to 3 mins I think. And at £1.50 a min that's a lot.

Properly a lot of you never used yours just flashed Linux straight on it.

Are you now playing anything similar like Mini Consoles, they are Identical but 
easer to hack because they use UBoot.

Can you replace PBL with UBoot but keep its Main Software..?

So like TheC64 Mini to get into it you use a FTDI232 or a CP2102 (this is at 
3.3v already on it but has to be at 3.3 v on RX because you can blow it UART I 
did it to mine and had to get another one.To use its console when its booting 
you have press and hold “s” down to interrupt its boot so you can make a root 
user on it so you can then just login with root.it uses Uboot to boot, it has 2 
partitions: nanda: Linux kernel,Uboot, nandb: root filesystem, ext2 format. I 
made a guide on how to add games to it here.. 
http://thec64community.online/thread/76/thec64-modding-games-little-guide

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From: David Given<mailto:d...@cowlark.com>
Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎7‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎23‎:‎50
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Hmm, I thought that was documented on the 'getting started' wiki page --- turns 
out it's not.

This is part of the turnkey Linux distribution for the E3. You can get it here: 
http://the.earth.li/pub/e3/<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http://the.earth.li/pub/e3/&data=02%7c01%7c%7cf72dfc7c025941e40e7308d6bbab77e5%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636902742453231414&sdata=qkst42hPENWcCnz/920uMGm%2B1TJ0uj1LcHPk4LBhbws%3D&reserved=0>
 Get the E3_release_v2.tar.gz file, and follow the instructions in the README.

Really this should be front and centre when it comes to doing stuff with the 
E3, but, well, this was all 14 years ago and the information's all bitrotted 
(I'd certainly forgotten it ever existed until you prompted me).

On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 00:12, Nick Griffin 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:

Whats the
ams-delta-install script ..? And where can i get it from.never heard of 
it.remember i don't know about the flashing side to the emailer I am not aksing 
you to do anything i can do it just need to be pointed in the right direction. 
You can use a USB Stick to back it up...? Anyone have the script...?



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

 Original message 
From: Jonathan McDowell mailto:nood...@earth.li>>
Date: 07/04/2019 21:48 (GMT+00:00)
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer hardware/software 
mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>>
Subject: Re: [E3-hacking] NAND backup

On Sun, Apr 07, 2019 at 08:43:59PM +, Nick Griffin wrote:
> Werid no one ever thought of backing up the firmware before putting
> new firmware on it,what would happen if you didn’t work.

Anyone who uses the ams-delta-install script will have a NAND backup -
there are 6 partitions and it backed them all up to the install USB
stick. Don't ask me what they were or if I happen to still have my
copies though! I didn't spend a lot of time looking at the original
Amstrad firmware, I was more focussed on getting a clean Linux install
up and running.

J.

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Re: [E3-hacking] About connecting to the serial on the E3

[Nick Griffin]

I compiled pblq OK on Commodore OS
What's the command line to copy the NAND from the E3 to my PC in PBLQ..?
Do I need to copy the NOR too..?

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎5‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎22‎:‎16
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hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

USB to RS232 Cable (Prolific USB to Serial) it works, I can see text…😊

Amstrad Delta - PBL V4.9 Build:1311 Assert Debug ICE
PBL 32MB NAND
0MB.-->MEMv01.00.002,CopyLim=0022h,CodeEnd=0140h-->PBL..1MB...2MB*


System module loader - LDR V1.5 Build:0008 Assert
Mod scan 10010100 to 10230100
MEM - 10024000 (flash 00404000)
PARMS - 10024400 (flash 00404400)
LDR - 10024800 (flash 00404800)
LINUX - 10044000 (flash 00424000)
num modules: 4
checking LDR V1 at 10024800, alive=0, load=10002000
checking LINUX V1 at 10044000, alive=0, load=1180
checking MEM V1 at 10024000, alive=0, load=11F0
checking PARMS V1 at 10024400, alive=0, load=1190
4 Modules processed, 4 are valid
LDR thinks global number for them is 1
Found mod  V=1 at 10044000
Found mod  V=1 at 10024400
Linux command line module (PARMS) found at 10024400
INITRD Not found
Linux start-up params (Any key to edit)
Found mod  V=1 at 10044000
Uncompressing Linux 
done, booting the kernel.
Linux version 2.4.18_mvl30-ams-delta 
(droberts@dev1-linux<mailto:droberts@dev1-linux>) (gcc version 3.2.1 20020930 
(MontaVista)) #1 Mon Aug 23 07:34:07 BST 2004
CPU: ARM/TI925 Arm925Tsid(wb) revision 2
Machine: AMS-DELTA/OMAP1510
modem enable 0
On node 0 totalpages: 7424
zone(0): 7424 pages.
zone(1): 0 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
Kernel command line: console=ttyS0,115200n8 init=/start_cramfs 
rootfstype=cramfs root=/dev/dfdb4 ro ams_mmod_base=0x10FFF000 
ams_mmod_size=0xFFF mem=29M ams_mod_ver=1
unmask_irq(#e)
rtsched version <20011203.1609.50>
Console: colour dummy device 80x30
Calibrating delay loop... 74.75 BogoMIPS
Memory: 29MB = 29MB total
Memory: 27272KB available (1386K code, 493K data, 64K init)
Dentry-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 2048 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
Buffer-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd
Disabling the Out Of Memory Killer
Installing stub AMS_DELTA keyboard driver.
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
SERIAL DRVR
Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xfffb (irq = 46) is a OMAP UART
ttyS01 at 0xeb00 (irq = 66) is a Smart SMC
omap-rtc: RTC power up reset detected.
omap-rtc: Enabling RTC.
Real Time Clock Driver v1.0
block: 64 slots per queue, batch=16
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size 1024 blocksize
DSPLinux FB (c) 2001 RidgeRun, Inc.
Looking for mono/colour, GPIO=FB93, proc_conf_bit=800
LCD is colour, 16BPP
tifb_init v_screen_base:C1C81000


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From: J<mailto:spar...@gmail.com>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎5‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎19‎:‎55
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Ftdi have a programming tool ftdi-prog that allows you to invert rx and tx.

On Fri, 5 Apr 2019 19:05 Nick Griffin, 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
Its still getting garbled text with CP 2102. 15200 was a typo on here.. 😊 in 
Putty its 115200.
I thought I try my FTDI 232,its text is garbled too… it does it on both of 
them.??
I am connecting it to pc then to FTDI232 or CP 2102 they connect to E3 then 
running Putty on PC and unplugging the E3 to restart it and garbled text on 
Putty. I can’t see the boot log text is unreadable…?

I have only one more thing I can try, I have a USB to RS232 Cable that's 
Prolific USB to Serial and see if that works.

Spanner..

From: David Given<mailto:d...@cowlark.com>
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎4‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎17‎:‎57
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

It's probably a typo, but just to check: you said 15200, but it should be 
115200?

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019, 18:52 Nick Griffin, 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
Could it be that I might have the RX and TX round there wrong way..? red is TX 
(Ring) so it connected to TX pin on CP 2102,White is RX (Tip) so it connected 
to RX pin on CP 2102,black is Ground (Sleeve) connected to GND pin on CP 
2102..??

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎4‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎17‎:‎38
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This is my settings in putty, 15200, 8 bits, no parity and 1 stop bit. And no 
flow control.
from 
https

Re: [E3-hacking] About connecting to the serial on the E3

[Nick Griffin]

I don’t anything about configuring a serial in Lunux even thought I made 
Commodore OS..😊

Do I need a app to setup the serial or can I do it in pblq..? I am using my USB 
to RS232 Cable (Prolific USB to Serial) I plugged the wires in Red to RX and 
While to TX and black to GND and it works fine. Its a original Prolific USB to 
Serial not a clone, I worked out this would work cos the Nokia 5100 uses the 
same chip(PL-2303) in its data cable. Glad you showed a picture of the board on 
your site.
Only seen the boot log in Putty in Windows…?
How do I find out what COM port its using in Linux..?

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎5‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎22‎:‎16
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

USB to RS232 Cable (Prolific USB to Serial) it works, I can see text…😊

Amstrad Delta - PBL V4.9 Build:1311 Assert Debug ICE
PBL 32MB NAND
0MB.-->MEMv01.00.002,CopyLim=0022h,CodeEnd=0140h-->PBL..1MB...2MB*


System module loader - LDR V1.5 Build:0008 Assert
Mod scan 10010100 to 10230100
MEM - 10024000 (flash 00404000)
PARMS - 10024400 (flash 00404400)
LDR - 10024800 (flash 00404800)
LINUX - 10044000 (flash 00424000)
num modules: 4
checking LDR V1 at 10024800, alive=0, load=10002000
checking LINUX V1 at 10044000, alive=0, load=1180
checking MEM V1 at 10024000, alive=0, load=11F0
checking PARMS V1 at 10024400, alive=0, load=1190
4 Modules processed, 4 are valid
LDR thinks global number for them is 1
Found mod  V=1 at 10044000
Found mod  V=1 at 10024400
Linux command line module (PARMS) found at 10024400
INITRD Not found
Linux start-up params (Any key to edit)
Found mod  V=1 at 10044000
Uncompressing Linux 
done, booting the kernel.
Linux version 2.4.18_mvl30-ams-delta 
(droberts@dev1-linux<mailto:droberts@dev1-linux>) (gcc version 3.2.1 20020930 
(MontaVista)) #1 Mon Aug 23 07:34:07 BST 2004
CPU: ARM/TI925 Arm925Tsid(wb) revision 2
Machine: AMS-DELTA/OMAP1510
modem enable 0
On node 0 totalpages: 7424
zone(0): 7424 pages.
zone(1): 0 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
Kernel command line: console=ttyS0,115200n8 init=/start_cramfs 
rootfstype=cramfs root=/dev/dfdb4 ro ams_mmod_base=0x10FFF000 
ams_mmod_size=0xFFF mem=29M ams_mod_ver=1
unmask_irq(#e)
rtsched version <20011203.1609.50>
Console: colour dummy device 80x30
Calibrating delay loop... 74.75 BogoMIPS
Memory: 29MB = 29MB total
Memory: 27272KB available (1386K code, 493K data, 64K init)
Dentry-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 2048 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
Buffer-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd
Disabling the Out Of Memory Killer
Installing stub AMS_DELTA keyboard driver.
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
SERIAL DRVR
Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xfffb (irq = 46) is a OMAP UART
ttyS01 at 0xeb00 (irq = 66) is a Smart SMC
omap-rtc: RTC power up reset detected.
omap-rtc: Enabling RTC.
Real Time Clock Driver v1.0
block: 64 slots per queue, batch=16
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size 1024 blocksize
DSPLinux FB (c) 2001 RidgeRun, Inc.
Looking for mono/colour, GPIO=FB93, proc_conf_bit=800
LCD is colour, 16BPP
tifb_init v_screen_base:C1C81000


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From: J<mailto:spar...@gmail.com>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎5‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎19‎:‎55
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Ftdi have a programming tool ftdi-prog that allows you to invert rx and tx.

On Fri, 5 Apr 2019 19:05 Nick Griffin, 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
Its still getting garbled text with CP 2102. 15200 was a typo on here.. 😊 in 
Putty its 115200.
I thought I try my FTDI 232,its text is garbled too… it does it on both of 
them.??
I am connecting it to pc then to FTDI232 or CP 2102 they connect to E3 then 
running Putty on PC and unplugging the E3 to restart it and garbled text on 
Putty. I can’t see the boot log text is unreadable…?

I have only one more thing I can try, I have a USB to RS232 Cable that's 
Prolific USB to Serial and see if that works.

Spanner..

From: David Given<mailto:d...@cowlark.com>
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎4‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎17‎:‎57
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

It's probably a typo, but just to check: you said 15200, but it should be 
115200?

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019, 18:52 Nick Griffin, 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
Could it be that I might have the RX and TX round there wrong way..? red is TX 
(Ring) so it connected 

Re: [E3-hacking] NAND backup

[Nick Griffin]

Whats the
ams-delta-install script ..? And where can i get it from.never heard of 
it.remember i don't know about the flashing side to the emailer I am not aksing 
you to do anything i can do it just need to be pointed in the right direction. 
You can use a USB Stick to back it up...? Anyone have the script...?



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

 Original message 
From: Jonathan McDowell 
Date: 07/04/2019 21:48 (GMT+00:00)
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer hardware/software 
Subject: Re: [E3-hacking] NAND backup

On Sun, Apr 07, 2019 at 08:43:59PM +0000, Nick Griffin wrote:
> Werid no one ever thought of backing up the firmware before putting
> new firmware on it,what would happen if you didn’t work.

Anyone who uses the ams-delta-install script will have a NAND backup -
there are 6 partitions and it backed them all up to the install USB
stick. Don't ask me what they were or if I happen to still have my
copies though! I didn't spend a lot of time looking at the original
Amstrad firmware, I was more focussed on getting a clean Linux install
up and running.

J.

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Re: [E3-hacking] Fw: I found Cliff Lawson old website about Amstrad

[Nick Griffin]

So no way of backing up the Nand then ..?



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


 Original message 
From: David Given 
Date: 07/04/2019 22:22 (GMT+00:00)
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer hardware/software 
Subject: Re: [E3-hacking] Fw: I found Cliff Lawson old website about Amstrad

readflash won't work. I'm not kidding about it being slow --- it's only a few 
bytes per second. PBL doesn't have a command to read data, so what pblq does is 
to tell it to checksum one byte at a time, and it figures out what the byte is 
from that. It's strictly a hack.



On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 at 22:44, Nick Griffin 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
Werid no one ever thought of backing up the firmware before putting new 
firmware on it,what would happen if you didn’t work.

You don’t have anything on the program you made pblq..?

This is the bit I want to get working..

“readflash   
  Reads data from the NAND flash (very, very slowly)”

What's the offset and length, I don’t know what that means..?

Spanner..

From: David Given<mailto:d...@cowlark.com>
Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎7‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎17‎:‎37
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

I don't think I had anything written down --- this was all years ago, remember. 
I have managed to dig up this old Getting Started page, with instructions on 
reflashing the E3 with Linux: 
https://wiki.earth.li/E3_Getting_Started<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.earth.li%2FE3_Getting_Started&data=02%7C01%7C%7C7c55375aea6a4a77e90508d6bb9f2cdf%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636902689655542999&sdata=H2PLBCxlm0DisFSVtC2GXqxPWeeLAzOU8bAz1HIRXXY%3D&reserved=0>
 Remember that we were all interested in running stock Linux on the machine 
rather than hacking the built-in firmware. Those instructions are all based 
around pbltool, which was the other tool for talking to PBL and which I'd 
completely forgotten about, but should work fine. Bear in mind that this will 
replace the stock firmware.

Regarding forums... I've never met a forum yet which was as easy to use as 
email, let alone coming close to the convenience of getting messages delivered 
directly to my inbox. (If this had been a forum I would never have seen your 
posts!)

Have you seen the mailing list archives at 
https://www.earth.li/pipermail/e3-hacking/<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.earth.li%2Fpipermail%2Fe3-hacking%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C7c55375aea6a4a77e90508d6bb9f2cdf%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63690268963004&sdata=MBwkP77N8Af1BpvQS%2BXHA50Aebe1omhbjFRwwEjebow%3D&reserved=0>?

On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 at 17:15, Nick Griffin 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
I need help with PBLQ I don’t understand its commands and options what am I as 
pose to know how to use it, when there are no instructions on how to use it, 
all it has is a read me,please can David Given help me because he made it..?? 
or anyone who has used it…??
Like “ writeflash  ” I don’t understand what is offset and 
length is ,is length the size of the NAND..
I am don’t know about pbl commands..??? Has anyone used this program before,I 
just hope I am not talking to myself or I will go mad…lol

”live@commodoreos<mailto:live@commodoreos> ~
READY.
pblq -h
pblq: Amstrad PBL boot load client v0.3.pre1.
(C) 2005 David Given.
Usage: pblq [] 
Options:
   -h Displays this message
   -v Switch on verbose mode (what that)
   -r Reuse an already existing connection
   -e  Set which emailer model to use (what Mode do not understand)
   -p   Sets the serial port to use
   -s   Sets the slow baud rate
   -f   Sets the fast baud rate
   -m   Sets the maximum packet size (0=ask PBL)
Commands:
   ping   Pings the device, testing communication
   term   Start simple serial terminal (is this like Putty, when I reset 
the email there is no txt just binary.)
   bless 
  Makes a PBL image bootable (does this copy PBL to your PC as a 
bootable image or something)
   execute 
  Executes an on-device program and enters the terminal (not sure 
need more explaining)
   checksum  
  Calculates the checksum of an area of memory ( not sure is the 
binary code,so need the code for the area in the Memory so it can grab it)
   read   
  Reads data from RAM into the specified file ( Reads data from the 
memory and copies into a file,so you can copy it back)
   write  
  Writes data from the specified file into RAM ( same as above but 
the opposite)
   readflash   
  Reads data from the NAND flash (very, very slowly)( not sure need 
help with offset and length do not understand)
   writeflash  
  Writes data into the NAND flash ( same as above but the opposite)
Addresses should begin 0x

Re: [E3-hacking] Fw: I found Cliff Lawson old website about Amstrad

[Nick Griffin]

Werid no one ever thought of backing up the firmware before putting new 
firmware on it,what would happen if you didn’t work.

You don’t have anything on the program you made pblq..?

This is the bit I want to get working..

“readflash   
  Reads data from the NAND flash (very, very slowly)”

What's the offset and length, I don’t know what that means..?

Spanner..

From: David Given<mailto:d...@cowlark.com>
Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎7‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎17‎:‎37
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

I don't think I had anything written down --- this was all years ago, remember. 
I have managed to dig up this old Getting Started page, with instructions on 
reflashing the E3 with Linux: 
https://wiki.earth.li/E3_Getting_Started<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://wiki.earth.li/E3_Getting_Started&data=02%7c01%7c%7c0e1a78592f874400258108d6bb774552%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636902518268872757&sdata=jSA8dIr7CFXUXgZwB59gzrKtzW7KRwpMzxRnlplSnv0%3D&reserved=0>
 Remember that we were all interested in running stock Linux on the machine 
rather than hacking the built-in firmware. Those instructions are all based 
around pbltool, which was the other tool for talking to PBL and which I'd 
completely forgotten about, but should work fine. Bear in mind that this will 
replace the stock firmware.

Regarding forums... I've never met a forum yet which was as easy to use as 
email, let alone coming close to the convenience of getting messages delivered 
directly to my inbox. (If this had been a forum I would never have seen your 
posts!)

Have you seen the mailing list archives at 
https://www.earth.li/pipermail/e3-hacking/<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://www.earth.li/pipermail/e3-hacking/&data=02%7c01%7c%7c0e1a78592f874400258108d6bb774552%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636902518268882768&sdata=qH/ycQtfYV6AwdUsRX94KqcBx3jpohM0Pscv9V5mZQg%3D&reserved=0>?

On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 at 17:15, Nick Griffin 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
I need help with PBLQ I don’t understand its commands and options what am I as 
pose to know how to use it, when there are no instructions on how to use it, 
all it has is a read me,please can David Given help me because he made it..?? 
or anyone who has used it…??
Like “ writeflash  ” I don’t understand what is offset and 
length is ,is length the size of the NAND..
I am don’t know about pbl commands..??? Has anyone used this program before,I 
just hope I am not talking to myself or I will go mad…lol

”live@commodoreos<mailto:live@commodoreos> ~
READY.
pblq -h
pblq: Amstrad PBL boot load client v0.3.pre1.
(C) 2005 David Given.
Usage: pblq [] 
Options:
   -h Displays this message
   -v Switch on verbose mode (what that)
   -r Reuse an already existing connection
   -e  Set which emailer model to use (what Mode do not understand)
   -p   Sets the serial port to use
   -s   Sets the slow baud rate
   -f   Sets the fast baud rate
   -m   Sets the maximum packet size (0=ask PBL)
Commands:
   ping   Pings the device, testing communication
   term   Start simple serial terminal (is this like Putty, when I reset 
the email there is no txt just binary.)
   bless 
  Makes a PBL image bootable (does this copy PBL to your PC as a 
bootable image or something)
   execute 
  Executes an on-device program and enters the terminal (not sure 
need more explaining)
   checksum  
  Calculates the checksum of an area of memory ( not sure is the 
binary code,so need the code for the area in the Memory so it can grab it)
   read   
  Reads data from RAM into the specified file ( Reads data from the 
memory and copies into a file,so you can copy it back)
   write  
  Writes data from the specified file into RAM ( same as above but 
the opposite)
   readflash   
  Reads data from the NAND flash (very, very slowly)( not sure need 
help with offset and length do not understand)
   writeflash  
  Writes data into the NAND flash ( same as above but the opposite)
Addresses should begin 0x if you want them in hex. ( hex ok  so starts with 0x 
so 0x1234567)
WARNING. Use this program at your own risk. The author accepts no responsibility
for any damage this program may do to your hardware. You have been warned!”

This needs a manual on how to use it properly,some I understand not all. I have 
notice there is not a lot of info on flashing the emailer and its not explained 
well, its like you put it up to show you have hacked it, but how do you 
expected to do it yourself, I have looked there is nothing on how to read the 
NAND from the E3,please someone make a walkthrough or explain offset and 
length..?

Not beaning funny but posting on here is hard, I have never used  email so 
much,well I don’

Re: [E3-hacking] Fw: I found Cliff Lawson old website about Amstrad

[Nick Griffin]

I am trying to read the NAND to my PC,but don’t know to to put as the command..?

pblq nand.img
pblq: syntax error: readflash   
readflash   
Reads data from the NAND flash (very, very slowly)
pblq nand.img 

Is the start of the nand 0x something, can you help me or is there a website 
that explains this..? I DO NOT KNOW…?? I DO NOT Know about this stuff or about 
PBL.All I want to do is copy the NAND.

Is the stuff in need in the console info like here…??
LDR - 10024800 (flash 00404800)
is LDR the NAND..??

Its says here..
“The second stage loader is stored in a Q;Q; format block in NAND, and is 
called LDR. It's responsible for finding the kernel parameters block and the 
kernel itself, then booting it. The kernel mounts a cramfs filesystem from the 
flash as its root, then pivot_roots so that the root is a ramdisk with a 
symlink farm into the cramfs.”

so does LDR hold the OS, thats where the main software is..?

Spanner..

From: Ralph Corderoy
Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎7‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎18‎:‎49
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software

Hi Nick,

>read   
>   Reads data from RAM into the specified file
>readflash   
>   Reads data from the NAND flash (very, very slowly)

Is it the distinction between RAM and NAND flash that's confusing you?
Otherwise, they're pretty similar.

> Not beaning funny but posting on here is hard, I have never used email
> so much,well I don’t use email

It's always a good time to learn to use email properly.  It's the core
of many projects' communications.  Lots of data can flow into email,
e.g. RSS feed readers, and cron-job output.  And there are many programs
that can read it, search it, and store it as a text file per email for
access by the normal Unix text processing tools.  Email is king.  :-)

--
Cheers, Ralph.

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[E3-hacking] Fw: I found Cliff Lawson old website about Amstrad

[Nick Griffin]

I need help with PBLQ I don’t understand its commands and options what am I as 
pose to know how to use it, when there are no instructions on how to use it, 
all it has is a read me,please can David Given help me because he made it..?? 
or anyone who has used it…??
Like “ writeflash  ” I don’t understand what is offset and 
length is ,is length the size of the NAND..
I am don’t know about pbl commands..??? Has anyone used this program before,I 
just hope I am not talking to myself or I will go mad…lol

”live@commodoreos ~
READY.
pblq -h
pblq: Amstrad PBL boot load client v0.3.pre1.
(C) 2005 David Given.
Usage: pblq [] 
Options:
   -h Displays this message
   -v Switch on verbose mode (what that)
   -r Reuse an already existing connection
   -e  Set which emailer model to use (what Mode do not understand)
   -p   Sets the serial port to use
   -s   Sets the slow baud rate
   -f   Sets the fast baud rate
   -m   Sets the maximum packet size (0=ask PBL)
Commands:
   ping   Pings the device, testing communication
   term   Start simple serial terminal (is this like Putty, when I reset 
the email there is no txt just binary.)
   bless 
  Makes a PBL image bootable (does this copy PBL to your PC as a 
bootable image or something)
   execute 
  Executes an on-device program and enters the terminal (not sure 
need more explaining)
   checksum  
  Calculates the checksum of an area of memory ( not sure is the 
binary code,so need the code for the area in the Memory so it can grab it)
   read   
  Reads data from RAM into the specified file ( Reads data from the 
memory and copies into a file,so you can copy it back)
   write  
  Writes data from the specified file into RAM ( same as above but 
the opposite)
   readflash   
  Reads data from the NAND flash (very, very slowly)( not sure need 
help with offset and length do not understand)
   writeflash  
  Writes data into the NAND flash ( same as above but the opposite)
Addresses should begin 0x if you want them in hex. ( hex ok  so starts with 0x 
so 0x1234567)
WARNING. Use this program at your own risk. The author accepts no responsibility
for any damage this program may do to your hardware. You have been warned!”

This needs a manual on how to use it properly,some I understand not all. I have 
notice there is not a lot of info on flashing the emailer and its not explained 
well, its like you put it up to show you have hacked it, but how do you 
expected to do it yourself, I have looked there is nothing on how to read the 
NAND from the E3,please someone make a walkthrough or explain offset and 
length..?

Not beaning funny but posting on here is hard, I have never used  email so 
much,well I don’t use email, I know people on here don’t like Facebook so what 
about a Forum so all info can be in one place not scattered over different 
websites, it very hard to look up any thing in the Mailing list Archive because 
it has no search options so you have to press on each thread one by one.

Would you be happy If I make a forum for the Emailer, no point me making one if 
no one uses it..?? I am proberly 8 years to late…lol, I am good at making them, 
I make one for TheC64 Mini. http://thec64community.online

I think I know why you made the E3 Hacking Mailing list because you could at 
the time look at it on the Emailer by redirecting the emails to your email addy 
on Amserve.… 😊 would of cost a bomb to look at it at the time at 20p a 
collection. I only connected email once a day when I was using it and that was 
about £6.20 a month so it cost about £75 a year just to have it turn on…lol

Thanks..
Spanner..

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[E3-hacking] Fw: I found Cliff Lawson old website about Amstrad

[Nick Griffin]

I Need your help..?
Can someone who knows Cliff contact him to ask how the Amstrad Emailer 
deactivates itself or locks its features please…? I don’t see why you wouldn’t 
tell us now the device is obsolete, I did send a message on Twitter but no 
reply, that’s probably because he don’t know me, I need to know how it locks 
and how it does it, if we know then we might be able to find a way to activate, 
unlock them.

Has anyone managed to backed up there NAND from the E3,if so did you backup it 
when the Emailer was activated, if yes to both please can you shear it, I want 
to test and see if I can writing over my NAND with it, and how did you do it, 
there is no walkthrough on explaining on how to do this with pblq..?

Sky took over Amstrad in 2007 for 125 million, they got full control of it in 
2010, (Sky removed the name Amstrad of they Sky+HD boxes and replaced it with 
the name Sky in 2010)that why they closed the Emailer service in 2011,they 
closed it because the phone numbers were from BT and Sky would have of paid BT 
to keep them(Amstrad did a deal with BT in 2000 with the first E1, its even had 
BT on the device), all they wanted was the satellite box part of Amstrad, 
that's how they made Sky Q (they brought it in-house so they could make them 
themselves) and Now TV, they never existed before and would not exist if they 
didn’t buy Amstrad. I wonder if Cliff works for Sky now or moved on. Amstrad 
exists only in name now, it don’t make or build anything, its the so Sky can 
hold on to what copyright Amstrad has like the copyright to the name and 
likeness of the ZX Spectrum, so when the ZX Spectrum Vega was made Retro 
Computer LTD had to pay Sky for the copyright to use its name and likeness.

”Yes I know a lot about Amstrad and the Emailer,I had to,to add stuff to the 
Amstrad and Emailer Wikipedia pages.. 😊 I have all 3 manualsE1,E3,E2(Shame they 
gone now from the Amstrad site, the links are there to the PDFs but they are 
dead because they go to Amstrad’s download site but that's been taken down by 
Sky,well Amserve.co.uk don’t work no more so it only time before Amstrad main 
site disappears) and 3 Emailers one E3 and 2 E2 Pluses.. lol. One of my 
Plus has the Configuration Change on it, I got that last year same as my E3, 
from eBay, they cost me £12 each with P+P,the other don’t work well it does but 
deactivated but keeping it and I got that in 2004, My mum bought for me before 
she died, she died 3 months later in October.”

Have a nice day..

Spanner..

From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎6‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎21‎:‎59
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Try this… 
https://web.archive.org/web/20070531214536/http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cliff.lawson/index.htm<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070531214536/http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cliff.lawson/index.htm&data=02%7c01%7c%7ceb33954ea3244a4b540108d6bad2c7ac%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636901811786841556&sdata=C7Axhbx4LR4wtjQfwieQqr9ul9y5lm3dVPALpplgNyw%3D&reserved=0>

Spanner..

From: Antony Stone<mailto:antony.st...@e3.open.source.it>
Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎6‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎20‎:‎16
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
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On Saturday 06 April 2019 at 19:55:51, Nick Griffin wrote:

> I found Cliff Lawson old website about Amstrad.. 😊 The files work on there
> too, so if you need to download something for you PPC640… 😊
>
> https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20100111065846%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fweb.ukonline.co.uk%3A80%2Fcli&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbc9b4e19deb44187e20008d6bac46ea3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636901750176337201&sdata=GFCxZFCrRLFe7Shitjk2HsN3h76CFjvXyD%2FDcXVpRkM%3D&reserved=0
> ff.lawson/<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://web.
> archive.org/web/20100111065846/http://web.ukonline.co.uk:80/cliff.lawson/&d
> ata=02%7c01%7c%7cec60a40c8c474674a9e108d6baafc57f%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
> a%7c1%7c0%7c636901661420165108&sdata=AYuOwEPXcqIuCLVxgq/VMaeODqQOjH
> tk9ctgHx/uiEY%3D&reserved=0>

That link gives me "Hrm.
The Wayback Machine has not archived that URL.
This page is not available on the web
because of server error"


Antony.

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The second logician says "I don't know."
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Re: [E3-hacking] I found Cliff Lawson old website about Amstrad

[Nick Griffin]

Try this… 
https://web.archive.org/web/20070531214536/http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cliff.lawson/index.htm

Spanner..

From: Antony Stone<mailto:antony.st...@e3.open.source.it>
Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎6‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎20‎:‎16
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

On Saturday 06 April 2019 at 19:55:51, Nick Griffin wrote:

> I found Cliff Lawson old website about Amstrad.. 😊 The files work on there
> too, so if you need to download something for you PPC640… 😊
>
> https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20100111065846%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fweb.ukonline.co.uk%3A80%2Fcli&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbc9b4e19deb44187e20008d6bac46ea3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636901750176337201&sdata=GFCxZFCrRLFe7Shitjk2HsN3h76CFjvXyD%2FDcXVpRkM%3D&reserved=0
> ff.lawson/<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://web.
> archive.org/web/20100111065846/http://web.ukonline.co.uk:80/cliff.lawson/&d
> ata=02%7c01%7c%7cec60a40c8c474674a9e108d6baafc57f%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
> a%7c1%7c0%7c636901661420165108&sdata=AYuOwEPXcqIuCLVxgq/VMaeODqQOjH
> tk9ctgHx/uiEY%3D&reserved=0>

That link gives me "Hrm.
The Wayback Machine has not archived that URL.
This page is not available on the web
because of server error"


Antony.

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[E3-hacking] I found Cliff Lawson old website about Amstrad

[Nick Griffin]

I found Cliff Lawson old website about Amstrad.. 😊 The files work on there too, 
so if you need to download something for you PPC640… 😊

https://web.archive.org/web/20100111065846/http://web.ukonline.co.uk:80/cliff.lawson/

If anyone needs to contact him I found him on Twitter here.. 
https://twitter.com/1903wrightflyer

Spanner..

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[E3-hacking] A Idea... well I am Autistic.. :)

[Nick Griffin]

I was thinking,again,I do that.. 😊 We don’t need a Emailer with the 
Configuration Change on, if we can backup its NAND and then Copy over it with 
the backup, all we need is someone with a activated emailer that works, but you 
would not know how long before the emailer would deactivate, ones it 
deactivates all you do is copy over it again with the baxckup and it be back to 
how it was when you copied over the NAND in the beginning, so all you are doing 
is taking a snapshot of someone's Emailer and coping it to yours to activate it 
but will have to do it every time it deactivates itself, so a bit like what you 
do with Windows when you have to activate it every 120 days because you are 
using Microsoft Toolkit.

and if someone has got a emailer with games on and is activated, you can do the 
same thing once the games expirer, all you do is copy the backup of the NAND 
with the games on that have like 4 weeks remaining then you have the games back.

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Re: [E3-hacking] About connecting to the serial on the E3

[Nick Griffin]

USB to RS232 Cable (Prolific USB to Serial) it works, I can see text…😊

Amstrad Delta - PBL V4.9 Build:1311 Assert Debug ICE
PBL 32MB NAND
0MB.-->MEMv01.00.002,CopyLim=0022h,CodeEnd=0140h-->PBL..1MB...2MB*


System module loader - LDR V1.5 Build:0008 Assert
Mod scan 10010100 to 10230100
MEM - 10024000 (flash 00404000)
PARMS - 10024400 (flash 00404400)
LDR - 10024800 (flash 00404800)
LINUX - 10044000 (flash 00424000)
num modules: 4
checking LDR V1 at 10024800, alive=0, load=10002000
checking LINUX V1 at 10044000, alive=0, load=1180
checking MEM V1 at 10024000, alive=0, load=11F0
checking PARMS V1 at 10024400, alive=0, load=1190
4 Modules processed, 4 are valid
LDR thinks global number for them is 1
Found mod  V=1 at 10044000
Found mod  V=1 at 10024400
Linux command line module (PARMS) found at 10024400
INITRD Not found
Linux start-up params (Any key to edit)
Found mod  V=1 at 10044000
Uncompressing Linux 
done, booting the kernel.
Linux version 2.4.18_mvl30-ams-delta 
(droberts@dev1-linux<mailto:droberts@dev1-linux>) (gcc version 3.2.1 20020930 
(MontaVista)) #1 Mon Aug 23 07:34:07 BST 2004
CPU: ARM/TI925 Arm925Tsid(wb) revision 2
Machine: AMS-DELTA/OMAP1510
modem enable 0
On node 0 totalpages: 7424
zone(0): 7424 pages.
zone(1): 0 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
Kernel command line: console=ttyS0,115200n8 init=/start_cramfs 
rootfstype=cramfs root=/dev/dfdb4 ro ams_mmod_base=0x10FFF000 
ams_mmod_size=0xFFF mem=29M ams_mod_ver=1
unmask_irq(#e)
rtsched version <20011203.1609.50>
Console: colour dummy device 80x30
Calibrating delay loop... 74.75 BogoMIPS
Memory: 29MB = 29MB total
Memory: 27272KB available (1386K code, 493K data, 64K init)
Dentry-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 2048 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
Buffer-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd
Disabling the Out Of Memory Killer
Installing stub AMS_DELTA keyboard driver.
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
SERIAL DRVR
Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xfffb (irq = 46) is a OMAP UART
ttyS01 at 0xeb00 (irq = 66) is a Smart SMC
omap-rtc: RTC power up reset detected.
omap-rtc: Enabling RTC.
Real Time Clock Driver v1.0
block: 64 slots per queue, batch=16
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size 1024 blocksize
DSPLinux FB (c) 2001 RidgeRun, Inc.
Looking for mono/colour, GPIO=FB93, proc_conf_bit=800
LCD is colour, 16BPP
tifb_init v_screen_base:C1C81000


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From: J<mailto:spar...@gmail.com>
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎5‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎19‎:‎55
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

Ftdi have a programming tool ftdi-prog that allows you to invert rx and tx.

On Fri, 5 Apr 2019 19:05 Nick Griffin, 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
Its still getting garbled text with CP 2102. 15200 was a typo on here.. 😊 in 
Putty its 115200.
I thought I try my FTDI 232,its text is garbled too… it does it on both of 
them.??
I am connecting it to pc then to FTDI232 or CP 2102 they connect to E3 then 
running Putty on PC and unplugging the E3 to restart it and garbled text on 
Putty. I can’t see the boot log text is unreadable…?

I have only one more thing I can try, I have a USB to RS232 Cable that's 
Prolific USB to Serial and see if that works.

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From: David Given<mailto:d...@cowlark.com>
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎4‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎17‎:‎57
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

It's probably a typo, but just to check: you said 15200, but it should be 
115200?

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019, 18:52 Nick Griffin, 
mailto:span1...@live.com>> wrote:
Could it be that I might have the RX and TX round there wrong way..? red is TX 
(Ring) so it connected to TX pin on CP 2102,White is RX (Tip) so it connected 
to RX pin on CP 2102,black is Ground (Sleeve) connected to GND pin on CP 
2102..??

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From: Nick Griffin<mailto:span1...@live.com>
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎4‎ ‎April‎ ‎2019 ‎17‎:‎38
To: Discussion of the Amstrad E3 emailer 
hardware/software<mailto:e3-hacking@earth.li>

This is my settings in putty, 15200, 8 bits, no parity and 1 stop bit. And no 
flow control.
from 
https://wiki.earth.li/E3_Getting_Started<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://wiki.earth.li/E3_Getting_Started&data=02%7c01%7c%7cd1639360107448e0886008d6b9f8558f%7c84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7c1%7c0%7c636900873564293591&sdata=TYDNHQD5T0sLlL5zo0C70lJ6bgbX7PT4iSqiSdzNTzQ%3D&reserved=0>
 website.

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