I would suggest reading O'Neill, Robert V. (2001). Is It Time to Bury the
Ecosystem Concept? (With Full Military Honors, of Course!). *Ecology*, 82:
3275-3284.
The eminent authors concludes in the article there is need to make revisions
in the concept of ecosystem. Especially, as far as the role and place of
humans is concerned. He points out that the humans are the ultimate invasive
species in the ecosystem that alters both the biotic and abiotic components.
A must read and very interesting article.
Ajay Sharma
PhD Student,
SFRC, UF, Gainesville, FL
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Daniel A Fiscus dafis...@frostburg.eduwrote:
Fabrice,
An interesting and evocative question and dilemma! I should really think on
it over time and reply in depth...but some thoughts of the top instead...
I agree with other repliers that the definition really does not exclude
humans per se...unless we focus on the special aspect of your ID of humans
as special animals. So I think the CBD definition is OK in the broadest
sense of all animals.
But I also agree that humans are special animals...so what could we change?
My core idea of ecosystem as I remember Tansley to have originally coined
it mentioned and emphasized reciprocal influence between the abiotic and
biotic realms. And I think it a reasonable extension to also suggest the
definition so far includes a sense of a balanced reciprocity...not
necessarily equilibrium, stasis, homeostasis or simple stability...but still
in general a kind of equal weighting, value, importance, dominance, or
causal driving by the biotic and abiotic realms.
If we tried to address what is special about humans as animals, in this
context of ecosystem as a functional biotic-abiotic unit...what to
emphasize?
One option would be to say that when humans enter the integrated functional
whole of an ecosystem, the relationship is no longer reciprocal or balanced
between biotic and abiotic realms. This does not necessarily have to mean
that this change is bad, just that it is different from ecosystems without
humans. The change would be compatible with the idea of the anthropocene era
in which humans are the main driving force of change...even geologic,
atmospheric, biogeochemical, species extinctions, etc. changes...on the
planet. Another very general analogy would be to say that without humans the
organisms and communities within ecosystems (biotic) adapt themselves mainly
to survival needs as defined by abiotic changes, but humans (biotic) adapt
(alter) the abiotic (and biotic) environment to our own needs. This is
grossly general...and not even a clearly separable difference between humans
and other species, especially those studied as ecosystem engineers, but it
is a rough start.
So...a revised approach would be to leave the definition of ecosystem as it
is (or one of the other classic or widely used versions by Odum and others),
but to add some modifier to another term or type of ecosystem and define
that one differently. This might be coupled human-natural ecosystems or
human-dominated ecosystems or human ecosystems or ecosystems with
humans.
But I think you open a can of worms that has to remain fuzzy and
open-ended, because I think it an open question as to whether we humans can
continue this lopsided relationship and continue to alter the environment to
our needs and wishes. If the pendulum swings back as we reach the
environmental limits of the planet, then the old and original ecosystem
definition may be fine. If we find some way to transcend these planetary
limits or boundaries...then we humans really are special enough to require
an expanded definition of ecosystem.
Some thoughts...would be fun to discuss more...
Dan
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Dan Fiscus
Assistant Professor
Biology Department
Frostburg State University
308 Compton Science Center
Frostburg, MD 21532 USA
301-687-4170
dafis...@frostburg.edu
-Original Message-
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news on behalf of
Fabrice De Clerck
Sent: Fri 6/25/2010 11:20 AM
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Humans in the definition of ecosystems
Dear Friends,
An environmental economist colleague of mine is disappointed with the CBD
definition of ecosystems which gives the impression that only pristine areas
are ecosystems. Can anyone point us to a more recent definition of
ecosystems that explicitly includes humans as an integral part of the
definition?
Here is the original question:
The CBD defines ecosystems as a dynamic complex of plant, animal and
micro-organism communities and their non-living environment interacting as a
functional unit.
I find this boring, as it leaves us humans, as special animals, out of the
picture. When you read it, it is easy to think of pristine environments. Has
there been any reaction or correction of this definition? I need an
authoritative quote that balances the CBD´s
All reactions welcome