Re: [ECOLOG-L] Similarity index

2011-06-20 Thread Andy Rominger
Hi Rajasri,

Sorry for coming to this late.  Is your concern that in the case of small
patches you've sampled completely, but in the case of large patches, some
species may have gone undetected?

If that's the case, using Chao's indices might be a good option.  They try
to take account of unseen species.  The paper is by Chao et al. 2005 in
Ecology Letters.  Here's a link:
http://chao.stat.nthu.edu.tw/paper/2005_EcologyLetters_8_P148.pdf

This might not be helpful, in particular you'll need species abundances or
replication through time.  Also, I'm not sure what the uniform area concept
is, so I just took a guess.  Hope it's helpful.

Best of luck,
Andy


On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Rajasri Ray rb...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
   I am trying to compare species composition among different patches
 which vary in their sizes to a great extent.I am planning to compute
 Jaccard's similarity index for this. For species enumeration, in some
 patches I have documented presence of all members (due to very small size
 of
 the patch ~ 80 - 500 sq. m).There is problem to apply uniform area concept
 for species composition. I would like to know whether Jaccard's is suitable
 for that kind of comparison.
 Thanks
 Rajasri



[ECOLOG-L] Similarity index

2011-06-14 Thread Rajasri Ray
Hello,
   I am trying to compare species composition among different patches
which vary in their sizes to a great extent.I am planning to compute
Jaccard's similarity index for this. For species enumeration, in some
patches I have documented presence of all members (due to very small size of
the patch ~ 80 - 500 sq. m).There is problem to apply uniform area concept
for species composition. I would like to know whether Jaccard's is suitable
for that kind of comparison.
Thanks
Rajasri  


Re: [ECOLOG-L] Similarity index

2011-06-14 Thread Adolf Ceska
Just try it and you will see. You may get a lot of criticism from people who
either never used or would never use these indices, but I am sure that it
will help you to analyze your data. You don't have to publish it, but you
will get a better insight into your data.

The size is another hot potato in your project. You touched the question of
minimal area that is another sensitive problem in vegetation sampling. Are
your patches large enough to get the majority of species in them? You will
get some random noise, if your areas are too large, but skewed results, if
they are too small. It depends on the vegetation types you are working with.

Adolf Ceska
P.S. I prefer Sorensen's similarity index. 



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Hello,
   I am trying to compare species composition among different patches
which vary in their sizes to a great extent.I am planning to compute
Jaccard's similarity index for this. For species enumeration, in some
patches I have documented presence of all members (due to very small size of
the patch ~ 80 - 500 sq. m).There is problem to apply uniform area concept
for species composition. I would like to know whether Jaccard's is suitable
for that kind of comparison.
Thanks
Rajasri