Re: [ECOLOG-L] Gaining Experience in Molecular Biology

2015-09-30 Thread Antonio Castilla
Hi Angela,


Actually, I think that you are right now in the best scenario to gain some
experience in molecular skills. When I finished my degree, I didn’t have
any experience with molecular tools. I got an initiation into the
scientific career fellowship in Spain. During one year, I collaborated with
my former lab in different projects and I was trained in a diverse set of
molecular tools. It was a great experience! Finally, I applied for a
doctoral fellowship combining field and molecular work. And now, molecular
work is present in most of my works!


Therefore, I think that you are in the right moment to explore this
pathway. I think that you should take a look to labs working on interesting
questions for you. I don’t know if you have fellowships to make a stay in a
lab. If not, you could contact with the principal investigator and explore
alternative options (e.g., lab technician...).  I think that this previous
experience could be very useful for your future.


If you are thinking in a PhD, you can also write a project incorporating a
part focused on molecular work. I don’t know what your interests are, but
if you want, I could help you with this part giving you some feedback.


Good luck!


Best


Antonio

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Angela Trenkle 
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>I am a recent graduate and since I've been applying to jobs, I've
> noticed that the majority of them ask for skills in molecular biology. I do
> not have any of this under my belt and I was wondering if anyone here had
> any suggestions on how I could gain some experience in this area. Thanks!
> -Angela Trenkle
>



-- 
Dr. Antonio R. Castilla
Integrative Biology
University of Texas at Austin
401 Biological Laboratories
http://www.antoniorcastilla.com/


Re: [ECOLOG-L] Gaining Experience in Molecular Biology

2015-09-30 Thread Emily Moran
You could look for lab assistant or intern positions that include basic 
molecular bio tasks such as PCR, DNA extraction, etc.  Although many will be 
looking for someone who has those skills already, if it is a minor part of the 
project they may be willing to train you.

Emily Moran

On Sep 30, 2015, at 6:14 AM, Angela Trenkle  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>I am a recent graduate and since I've been applying to jobs, I've noticed 
> that the majority of them ask for skills in molecular biology. I do not have 
> any of this under my belt and I was wondering if anyone here had any 
> suggestions on how I could gain some experience in this area. Thanks!
> -Angela Trenkle


Re: [ECOLOG-L] Gaining Experience in Molecular Biology

2015-09-30 Thread Malcolm McCallum
This is long, and I am posting it to Ecolog because, frankly, I guarantee a
ton of people are asking the same question as you!

the only realistic way you will get this is to take some classes.
When I graduated with my BS most bio programs only required a genetics
class.  Then, I attended an MS program where most of the courses were more
field-based or traditional ecology (biogeography, evolution, etc.).  The
molecular tools became a dominant tool requirement became a common request
in the 90s.  When I did my PHD everyone already knew them.  I took lab
courses that taught specifically how to do methods I had not done (or was
shaky on).  Now, anyone with a BS should have run an elisa and done some
basic things like PCR (heck, they were teaching basic PCR in freshman
biology at the community college in the mid-1990s.  THese students did not
"KNOW" it, but they had a clue at least about what was going on.  Check
your local community college, they might teach biotech courses.  It is
increasingly common for community colleges to have some form of biotech
classes and programs.  I lived near SIUE after my MS and had no molecular
experience/training.  I did not know a PCR from a blot test.  So, I
attended a recombinant DNA course and a molecular genetics course at that
school through a neat adult learner program they offered at the time.  YOu
could take any course for a small fee (in 1995 I think it was $15).  So, I
enrolled in grantsmanship, molecular genetics, recombinant DNA, entomology,
insect morphology, field botany, and a few other courses.  There were no
transcripts but you could keep your receipt which would show what course
you paid to take.  There may be similar programs at universities near you.

There is also the option to earn an MS or graduate certificate at a nearby
institution specifically in molecular biology.  However, I will tell you
that although every student should know the basics of these molecular
tests, most graduates with a BS at least are not fluent in their usage.
THey are kind of like the kid who drove a car for the first time in drivers
ed.  The real skill with these techniques is understanding what jels to
use, and the amazing number of specialized molecular methods tht now
exist.  IF you are truly interested in learning molecular techniques, I
suggest you find a class and take it.  However, it is generally true that
permanent jobs in which biology students get hired break up loosely into
lab techs, desk jobs, and teaching.

Many testing labs hire biology majors.  These positions may be doing
chemical testing (I was once interviewed to test the viscosity of paint in
a paint factory!), forensic tests, or environmental tests (using standard
test organisms or methods with instrumentation).  Often, these jobs have
nothign to do with biology, but your understanding of laboratory "life" is
essential.  Some places may hire you for clinical testing, but generally
these jobs go to people who have a back ground in medical technology.  I
remember once being interviewed for a field chemist job in which I was to
collect soil and water samples around chemical factories.  I live in Kansas
City and there are a surprising large number of environemntal testing labs
around here.  At least one in Overland Park, another over in Columbia
Missouri that I am aware of.  They pay darn well too.  I have seen their
job ads on Indeed.com.  Clin ical testing labs tend to hire people with
education in med tech.  THings like medical technologist, clinical
laboratory tech, serologist, hematologist, etc., these are all med tech
jobs and most biology majors just will not qualify.  Likewise, there has
been a movement for biotech AA degrees and you may see jobs for gel
technicians, and such wich are mostly filled by people with simple training
via such degrees and training programs.

Federal and state jobs with the department of the interior and US EPA tend
to be desk jobs where you do a lot of permit approvals denials.  THese are
very important jobs and from the outside sound kind of dry, but they can be
amazingly interesting.  Most of these jobs are multi-tasking of sorts with
say 50% permits, 20% NEPA EIS reviews, 20% Endangred species paperwork, 10%
research.  The research part is largely assisting biologists when needed.
The other kinds of jobs are few in number by comparison so there is WAY
more competition for things like a wildlife biologist doing direct wildlife
studies. I was offered a really neat job like this with the US EPA many
years ago. It was a PHD level job, but it involved pesticide policy for the
entire US and was stationed in Washington DC.  FOr me, visiting the city is
one thing, living in city that goes on forever was too much!  I turned it
down.  This is another thing you HAVE to consider when applying for jobs
and training for potential careers...is the job and the place you have to
live to do it compatable.  It is hard to be a Forester in the great plains,
an arctic surveyor in Nevada, or a de