Re: WHITE EUROPEANS SUCK

2001-09-10 Thread Unclaimed Mysteries


Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in part:


 And both of you have just repeated the website that the spammer
 wanted publicised.
 I'm sure it's very gratefull.

But White Europeans do suck. And so do other humans. At least according to
http://www.subgenius.com.
Bob has chunks of people like Hal Turner in his, uh, pipe.

Great, now I owe another on-topic post.

Corry


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Re: WHITE EUROPEANS SUCK

2001-09-10 Thread Anon.

Unclaimed Mysteries wrote:
 
 Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in part:
 
  And both of you have just repeated the website that the spammer
  wanted publicised.
  I'm sure it's very gratefull.
 
 But White Europeans do suck. And so do other humans. 

But only when they've got loppipops in their mouths.

Can I claim this as the final word?

Bob

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language, he has still never yet succeeded in forcing it to reveal his
meaning
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Re: how to compare these 2 functions(asymptotically)

2001-09-10 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson



kmswys wrote:
 
 lg*(lg(n)) and lg(lg*n)
 
 lg* is iterated logarithm (base 2), defined as the smallest i such that
 ith iteration of logarithm is less or equal one.


lg*(lg(n)) is just lg*(n) - 1, asymptotically ~ lg*(n)

The second expression is thus asymptotically the log of the first.

-Robert Dawson


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Re: Definitions of Likert scale, Likert item, etc.

2001-09-10 Thread Dennis Roberts

At 01:17 PM 9/9/01 +1200, Magenta wrote:
It would treat don't agree as the zero point.  So an answer at the 100%
point would be interpreted as twice as strong as an answer at the 50% point.

again ... one (of many) problems with this notion is that it assumes that a 
person who opts for this choice ... has NO degree of feeling with the 
statement at all ... when in fact ... since you have given this person NO 
other way to respond ... it could be because the person DISagrees with the 
statement ... or, in fact, rather than having zero opinion about it ... 
does NOT want to respond or thinks the item is ambiguous ... and hence will 
use the don't agree as a way to NOT making a response ... but still 
making one


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Re: Definitions of Likert scale, Likert item, etc.

2001-09-10 Thread Dennis Roberts

At 01:17 PM 9/9/01 +1200, Magenta wrote:
It would treat don't agree as the zero point.  So an answer at the 100%
point would be interpreted as twice as strong as an answer at the 50% point.


let's say the item is

i like statistics

and, we have two people ... PERSON 1 who HATES statistics ... and PERSON 2 
one who really has had no exposure to statistics and therefore, really has 
no opinion at this point in time

and the response options are:

I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS || I STRONGLY 
AGREE WITH THIS
 0 5 10

NOW, both person A and person B ... respond I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS 
(which is dictated by the item response possibilities)

are you trying to tell us that you would consider both of these responses 
as reflecting the same degree of agreement and/or ... compared to someone 
who might have responded 5 ... equally different than the person who said 
5???






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Tenure Track Positions for Statistics

2001-09-10 Thread carl lee

Thanks very much for posting the announcement of tenure-track position
openings.

Carl
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Central Michigan University - One or Two Statistics Tenure-Track
Assistant Professor Positions

The Department of Mathematics at Central Michigan University  invites
applications for a tenure-track, assistant professor position in
Statistics beginning Fall 2002. A second tenure track position may be
available. Preference will be given to applicants in computational or
applied statistics, but strong candidates from all areas of statistics
are urged to apply. Candidates are expected to have a Ph.D. in
statistics or a closely related field, excellent verbal and written
communication skills, and demonstrate a strong commitment to and
potential for teaching, research and external funding. ABD candidates
will be considered if degree completion is imminent.

Preference will be given to applicants who demonstrate the ability to
contribute to the department's Ph.D. program and proposed M.S. in
Applied Statistics. Duties include undergraduate and graduate teaching,
research, submitting external funding proposals, and service.

The department offers bachelor's degrees in mathematics education,
mathematics, statistics and actuarial science, master's degrees in
mathematics and mathematics education, and a Ph.D. in mathematics with a
concentration in college teaching.

Further information is available at  http://www.cst.cmich.edu/units/mth
and at the job web site of the American Statistical Association.

Submit a letter of application, resume, copies of transcripts, a
statement of teaching philosophy and a statement of proposed research
plans, and have three letters of recommendation sent directly to: Search
Committee, Department of Mathematics, Central Michigan University, Mt.
Pleasant, MI 48859. Applications will be accepted and considered until
the positions are filled. Review of applications will begin October 15,
2001.

CMU, an AA/EO institution, is strongly and actively committed to
increasing diversity within its community  (see
www.cmich.edu.aaeo.html). CMU is a doctoral/research-intensive
institution recognized for strong undergraduate education and a range of
focused graduate programs and research.




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Re: how to compare these 2 functions(asymptotically)

2001-09-10 Thread omae

thanks!


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H-Statistic Can't find lookup table for large number of samples

2001-09-10 Thread JD Kronicz

Hi-
I am a human health risk assessor.  I am trying to calculate the 95%
UCL of a lognormal distribution.  The data sets I have all have about
350 samples.  I can't find a lookup table for the H-Statistic for more
than 100 samples.  If anyone can point me in the right direction I
would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks-JDK


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90% of all families are not prepared

2001-09-10 Thread Forever Family

90% of all families are not prepared either to respond or provide care and support in time of need, crises, extended health concern or death.


Forever Family has a solution, "The Family Care Training Series"
Go to www.ForeverFamily.com to learn more.







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Re: Definitions of Likert scale, Likert item, etc.

2001-09-10 Thread Magenta

I incorporate a separate N/A option. This could be included in an earlier
question that would ensure respondents who should not answer the questions
were skipped over those questions.  This is standard practice, e.g. in CATI
situations.
CATI = computer assisted telephone interviewing.

IMO the problem has become incorrect survey question pattern design in this
case, rather than incorrect response design.

cheers
Michelle

Dennis Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 At 01:17 PM 9/9/01 +1200, Magenta wrote:
 It would treat don't agree as the zero point.  So an answer at the 100%
 point would be interpreted as twice as strong as an answer at the 50%
point.


 let's say the item is

 i like statistics

 and, we have two people ... PERSON 1 who HATES statistics ... and PERSON 2
 one who really has had no exposure to statistics and therefore, really has
 no opinion at this point in time

 and the response options are:

 I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS || I STRONGLY
 AGREE WITH THIS
  0 5 10

 NOW, both person A and person B ... respond I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS
 (which is dictated by the item response possibilities)

 are you trying to tell us that you would consider both of these responses
 as reflecting the same degree of agreement and/or ... compared to
someone
 who might have responded 5 ... equally different than the person who said
 5???






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Re: Definitions of Likert scale, Likert item, etc.

2001-09-10 Thread dennis roberts

At 11:29 AM 9/11/01 +1200, Magenta wrote:
I incorporate a separate N/A option. This could be included in an earlier
question that would ensure respondents who should not answer the questions
were skipped over those questions.  This is standard practice, e.g. in CATI
situations.
CATI = computer assisted telephone interviewing.

IMO the problem has become incorrect survey question pattern design in this
case, rather than incorrect response design.

i will try one more shot at this

again, say the item is ... i like statistics

SCENARIO A

and, 2 people using your response scale ... respond:

i don't agree) 0 - 5 i strongly agree

person 1 is here ^^
person 2 is here ^^

SCENARIO B

now, what if the same two people are presented with the following 
additional item:

  i DON'T like statistics

i don't agree 0 - 5 i strongly agree

person 1 is here ^^
person 2 is -^^^

the combination of SCENARIO A plus SCENARIO B ... suggests that person 1 IS 
more or less neutral ... BUT, person 2 is really ANTI statistics ... 
perhaps even HATES it

but, with ONLY SCENARIO A ... you CANNOT know that these two persons are 
different ... and to assume that they are both at the 0 point on your scale 
... is a mistake

thus, the problem here is NOT with the item or stem design ... it is most 
surely with the response options given to the S

you seem to be forgetting ... or wanting to bypass ... the notion that for 
attitudes anyway ... there is an OBJECT that ... we have some valence for 
... or not ... and one of the dimensions is of course strength of valence 
but, also ... which your approach misses ... the DIRECTION of that valence 
... ie, the tendency to want to approach it or avoid it ...

when you create an item ... that in itself has some direction to it ... 
agree with the statement provides information about the S and his or her 
strength AND direction ... but, for a person who is inclined in the 
opposite direction of the way the item is stated ... a i don't agree or 0 
... does not provide that S with ANY response that fits his/her attitudinal 
pattern ...

thus, without the other end of the continuum being one of the RESPONSE 
OPTIONS for the S ... the 0 point i don't agree simply provides ambiguous 
data to the data collector


cheers
Michelle

Dennis Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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  At 01:17 PM 9/9/01 +1200, Magenta wrote:
  It would treat don't agree as the zero point.  So an answer at the 100%
  point would be interpreted as twice as strong as an answer at the 50%
point.
 
 
  let's say the item is
 
  i like statistics
 
  and, we have two people ... PERSON 1 who HATES statistics ... and PERSON 2
  one who really has had no exposure to statistics and therefore, really has
  no opinion at this point in time
 
  and the response options are:
 
  I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS || I STRONGLY
  AGREE WITH THIS
   0 5 10
 
  NOW, both person A and person B ... respond I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS
  (which is dictated by the item response possibilities)
 
  are you trying to tell us that you would consider both of these responses
  as reflecting the same degree of agreement and/or ... compared to
someone
  who might have responded 5 ... equally different than the person who said
  5???
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  208 cedar, AC 8148632401, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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