Re: cluster analysis in one-dimensional circular space

2000-04-17 Thread Rich Strauss

Since clustering methods begin with pairwise distances among observations,
why not measure these distances as minimum arc-lengths along the
best-fitting circle (or min chord lengths, or min angular deviations with
respect to the centroid, etc)?  This is how geographic distances are
measured (in 2 dimensions, rather than one) and clustered, and also how
distances are measured among observations in Kendall's shape spaces (e.g.,
Procrustes distances), so there's a well established literature.

Rich Strauss

At 05:32 PM 4/14/00 +0200, you wrote:
Hi everybody.
I face the problem of clustering one-dimensional data that can range in a
circular way. Does anybody knows the best way to solve this problem with no
aid of an additional variable ? Using a well-suitable trigonometric
transform ? Using an ad-hoc metric ?
Thanks.

Carl




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Re: cluster analysis in one-dimensional circular space

2000-04-15 Thread Donald F. Burrill

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Carl Frelicot wrote:

 I face the problem of clustering one-dimensional data that can range in a
 circular way. Does anybody knows the best way to solve this problem with no
 aid of an additional variable ? Using a well-suitable trigonometric
 transform ? Using an ad-hoc metric ?
 Thanks.

If you mean that data are constrained to lie on a circle of fixed radius, 
you could consider substituting the distance of each point from the next 
one (in one direction or the other).  This would provide global 
information (sorry -- pun unintentional) about the existence of 
clustering.  Plotting this against, say, angular dispacement would give 
information about the location(s) of cluster(s).
-- DFB.
 
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cluster analysis in one-dimensional circular space

2000-04-14 Thread Carl Frelicot

Hi everybody.
I face the problem of clustering one-dimensional data that can range in a
circular way. Does anybody knows the best way to solve this problem with no
aid of an additional variable ? Using a well-suitable trigonometric
transform ? Using an ad-hoc metric ?
Thanks.

Carl




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Re: cluster analysis in one-dimensional circular space

2000-04-14 Thread Jason Harrison

If your data can be "cut" and unrolled at a specific boundry then you
can rotate/translate the data away from the boundry.  For example if
your data crosses the 0 degree boundry but not the -180/+180 boundry
then you don't need to do anything, if it crosses the -180/+180
boundry but not the 0 degree boundry then you can translate the data
for that cluster/variable with the following:

  if old = 0 then new := old - 180
  else if old  0 then new := old + 180.

and then translate the results back when you are finished.  This
allows you to compute the means of the data correctly.  You only need
to do this for data clusters that cross the 180 degree boundry.

If however your data is actually distributed entirely on a circular
range, I don't think this technique will work as it will artifically
increase the distance between elements that were previously close.

-Jason

"Carl Frelicot" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I face the problem of clustering one-dimensional data that can range in a
circular way. Does anybody knows the best way to solve this problem with no
aid of an additional variable ? Using a well-suitable trigonometric
transform ? Using an ad-hoc metric ?
Thanks.


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