Dots in a Repeated Measures ANOVA

2001-06-06 Thread haytham siala

Can someone please help me in the following:

1. I have conducted a Repeated-Measures ANOVA using SPSS and the table of
Within-subjects effects showed some results of dots in the cells of the
table. I also get these dots in the alpha column of the Homogeneity of
covariance test results table. Since Repeated-measures ANOVA is very
sensitive to the test of Homogeneity of Covariances, I really need to
understand what these dots in the results of the Homogeneity of Covariances
test signify.

2. I have lost some significant effect that was present when I conducted the
repeated-measures ANOVA on sub-samples of the sample separately (i.e. when I
conducted the same ANOVA test on the whole sample the significant
interaction effect disappeared). Is this a normal outcome?

HAYTHAM




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Re: Dots in a Repeated Measures ANOVA

2001-06-07 Thread haytham siala

Thanks for your response.

Can you please clarify the point you made about the Homogeneity test. Does
this mean that the Homogeneity of covariance test has not been violated and
thus the null hypothesis of equal covariances in the groups is therefore not
rejected. Can you refer me to any books or other sources of that can explain
this situation?

HAYTHAM

Thom Baguley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> haytham siala wrote:
> >
> > Can someone please help me in the following:
> >
> > 1. I have conducted a Repeated-Measures ANOVA using SPSS and the table
of
> > Within-subjects effects showed some results of dots in the cells of the
> > table. I also get these dots in the alpha column of the Homogeneity of
> > covariance test results table. Since Repeated-measures ANOVA is very
> > sensitive to the test of Homogeneity of Covariances, I really need to
> > understand what these dots in the results of the Homogeneity of
Covariances
> > test signify.
>
> Dots usually mean insufficient d.f. to compute the tests. If within
> factor levels have only 1 d.f. then there is 0 d.f. to estimate the
> covariances. (The assumption can't be violated).
>
> > 2. I have lost some significant effect that was present when I conducted
the
> > repeated-measures ANOVA on sub-samples of the sample separately (i.e.
when I
> > conducted the same ANOVA test on the whole sample the significant
> > interaction effect disappeared). Is this a normal outcome?
> >
> > HAYTHAM
>
> Not enough info to answer this, but it seems perfectly reasonable
> and possible. If you analyze different data you'll get different output.
>
> Thom




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Normality in Factor Analysis

2001-06-16 Thread haytham siala

Hi,

I have a question regarding factor analysis: Is normality an important
precondition for using factor analysis?

If no, are there any books that justify this.




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Re: Normality in Factor Analysis

2001-06-17 Thread Haytham Siala

 I have checked some of the books but I could not find this statment (for
e.g. using multivariate statistics (Tabachnik 1996), Latent variable models
(Loehlin 1998), Easy guide to factor analysis (Kline 1994)).

Can you please give me a examples of references as I reallly need a
reference because I have already conducted a factor analysis on sample of
data containing some non-normal variables .

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> In sci.stat.consult haytham siala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have a question regarding factor analysis: Is normality an important
> > precondition for using factor analysis?
>
> It's necessary for testing hypotheses about factors extracted by
> Joreskog's maximum-likelihood method.  Otherwise, no.
>
> > If no, are there any books that justify this.
>
> Any book on factor analysis or multivariate statistics in general.
>


"Eric Bohlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> In sci.stat.consult haytham siala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have a question regarding factor analysis: Is normality an important
> > precondition for using factor analysis?
>
> It's necessary for testing hypotheses about factors extracted by
> Joreskog's maximum-likelihood method.  Otherwise, no.
>
> > If no, are there any books that justify this.
>
> Any book on factor analysis or multivariate statistics in general.
>




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