Census Bureau nixes sampling on 2000 count

2001-03-02 Thread J. Williams

The Census Bureau urged Commerce Secretary Don Evans on Thursday not
to use adjusted results from the 2000 population count.  Evans must
now weigh the recommendation from the Census Bureau, and will make the
decision next week.  If the data were adjusted statistically it  could
be used to redistribute and remap political district lines. William
Barron, the Bureau Director, said in a letter to Evans that he agreed
with a Census Bureau committee recommendation "that unadjusted census
data be released as the Census Bureau's official redistricting data."
Some say about 3 million or so people make up a disenfranchising
undercount.  Others disagree viewing sampling as a method to "invent"
people who have not actually been counted.  Politically, the stakes
are high on Evans' final decision.








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Re: Census Bureau nixes sampling on 2000 count

2001-03-02 Thread dennis roberts

unfortunately, there is a constitutional MANDATED way to take the census 
... which is archaic ... and tremendously costly to boot ... but as far as 
i know ... all attempts at going to a more statistical sampling method have 
been stricken down in the courts ...

this is one place that the constitution clearly needs to be changed ... 
but, given that amendments need 3/4 of the states to agree ... this will be 
hard to pass ... since many states see reapportionment under the current 
method to be advantageous to them ... so, they would not agree to this

when the census readily admits that 10% or so are missed ... flat out NOT 
seen nor counted ... AND we know that statistical methods can greatly 
improve upon that ... we need to change

At 12:16 PM 3/2/01 +, J. Williams wrote:
>The Census Bureau urged Commerce Secretary Don Evans on Thursday not
>to use adjusted results from the 2000 population count.  Evans must
>now weigh the recommendation from the Census Bureau, and will make the
>decision next week.  If the data were adjusted statistically it  could
>be used to redistribute and remap political district lines. William
>Barron, the Bureau Director, said in a letter to Evans that he agreed
>with a Census Bureau committee recommendation "that unadjusted census
>data be released as the Census Bureau's official redistricting data."
>Some say about 3 million or so people make up a disenfranchising
>undercount.  Others disagree viewing sampling as a method to "invent"
>people who have not actually been counted.  Politically, the stakes
>are high on Evans' final decision.
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Re: Census Bureau nixes sampling on 2000 count

2001-03-04 Thread Rich Ulrich

On Fri, 02 Mar 2001 12:16:42 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J. Williams)
wrote:

> The Census Bureau urged Commerce Secretary Don Evans on Thursday not
> to use adjusted results from the 2000 population count.  Evans must
> now weigh the recommendation from the Census Bureau, and will make the
> decision next week.  If the data were adjusted statistically it  could
> be used to redistribute and remap political district lines. William
> Barron, the Bureau Director, said in a letter to Evans that he agreed
> with a Census Bureau committee recommendation "that unadjusted census
> data be released as the Census Bureau's official redistricting data."
> Some say about 3 million or so people make up a disenfranchising
> undercount.  Others disagree viewing sampling as a method to "invent"
> people who have not actually been counted.  Politically, the stakes
> are high on Evans' final decision.

People may wonder, 
"Why did the Census Bureau say this, and why is there little criticism
of them?"

According to the reports of a few weeks ago, the inner-city counts,
etc.,  of this census were quite a bit more accurate than they were 10
years ago.  That means that we couldn't be so sure that adjustment
would make a big improvement, or any improvement.

This frees Republicans of some blame, for this one instance, of
pushing specious technical arguments for short-term GOP gain.

-- 
Rich Ulrich, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pitt.edu/~wpilib/index.html


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