Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga beginner questions
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: > Symmetric Nat is really Frequent in French DSL ISP modems ( Freebox and >> neufBox I think ) > > I have some problems with my freebox v4 (in France) when I use its router > mode. > StunDetector:0x77b28950 OPALSTUN server "stun.ekiga.net" replies Port > Restricted NAT, external IP 82.238.108.175 > StunDetector:0x5d697950 OPALSTUN server "stun.ekiga.net" replies Cone > NAT, external IP 82.238.108.175 > This leads to think that it's a Cone NAT instead of a symmetric as I thought ( Port restricted in both cases if I'm right ) . Stun can traverse Cone NAT so it "should " always work > > Also, the presence does not work reliably, it seems that the freebox simply > drops some packets (!!??) Moreover, if I call 520, I do not receive the > callback (but I receive it in non router mode). > In non Router Mode (Bridge) , you only have one machine with the Public IP addresse then everything works without any stun needed. All freebox have a second SSID "freephonie.net" which allow only SIP traffic to the SIP free.fr server. although it's on a seperate network, maybe the iptables rules catch some packets from the local LAN network ? We should ask this question on freephonie.org -- %<--->% Michel memeteau Blog 0.2 : http://memeteau.free.fr Fixe : 0974763294 Mobile : 0624808051 VOIP | Visio: sip:freeche...@ippi.fr jabber/GTalk : xmpp:freeche...@jabber.fr Sent from: Marseille Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur France. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga beginner questions
michel memeteau wrote: On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Eugen Dedu wrote: Symmetric Nat is really Frequent in French DSL ISP modems ( Freebox and neufBox I think ) I have some problems with my freebox v4 (in France) when I use its router mode. StunDetector:0x77b28950 OPALSTUN server "stun.ekiga.net" replies Port Restricted NAT, external IP 82.238.108.175 StunDetector:0x5d697950 OPALSTUN server "stun.ekiga.net" replies Cone NAT, external IP 82.238.108.175 This leads to think that it's a Cone NAT instead of a symmetric as I thought ( Port restricted in both cases if I'm right ) . Stun can traverse Cone NAT so it "should " always work This paragraph seems wrong: But why sometimes it shows Port restricted, and sometimes Cone? I thought that it tries to maintain the same port on the nat machine (which gives cone), but sometimes the port is occupied, so it uses another one (which gives port restricted). If this is true, then pure cone does not exist in reality, since it works only when the port is free on the nat machine. I think I understand: the first time, it is port restricted (see http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-STUN for a glossary), since it really is port restricted. The second time, the nat machine has already done the association, so stun does not see it as port restricted anymore, but as cone nat. (More precisely, restricted cone I imagine, not full cone.) Also, the presence does not work reliably, it seems that the freebox simply drops some packets (!!??) Moreover, if I call 520, I do not receive the callback (but I receive it in non router mode). In non Router Mode (Bridge) , you only have one machine with the Public IP addresse then everything works without any stun needed. Indeed. All freebox have a second SSID "freephonie.net" which allow only SIP traffic to the SIP free.fr server. although it's on a seperate network, maybe the iptables rules catch some packets from the local LAN network ? I have SIP mode disabled. Why does it drop packets (it seems)? We should ask this question on freephonie.org Ok, thanks. -- Eugen ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga beginner questions
H.S. wrote: Eugen Dedu wrote: michel memeteau wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Damien Sandras wrote: Anything special about those 10% cases where it does not work? Just trying to get a clear picture here and perhaps avoid problems, or at least minimize them. See wiki.ekiga.org, in those cases, a simple port forwarding is enough. Symmetric Nat is really Frequent in French DSL ISP modems ( Freebox and neufBox I think ) , and as long as TURN ICE or Upnp support Won't be in Ekiga , port forwarding will still be needed in a lot of cases which leads usually to not recommends Ekiga to your granMother ( a Pity ) I have some problems with my freebox v4 (in France) when I use its router mode. For ex, its NAT is sometimes recognised differently: snoopy:~$ ekiga-snapshot -d 5 2>&1|grep STUN 2009/03/04 23:21:03.471 0:05.735StunDetector:0x77b28950 OPALSTUN server "stun.ekiga.net" replies Port Restricted NAT, external IP 82.238.108.175 2009/03/04 23:21:04.158 0:06.422 MonSock Created bundled UDP socket via STUN, internal=192.168.0.1:5060, external=82.238.108.175:5060 snoopy:~$ ekiga-snapshot -d 5 2>&1|grep STUN 2009/03/04 23:21:09.593 0:00.950StunDetector:0x5d697950 OPALSTUN server "stun.ekiga.net" replies Cone NAT, external IP 82.238.108.175 2009/03/04 23:21:10.156 0:01.513 MonSock Created bundled UDP socket via STUN, internal=192.168.0.1:5060, external=82.238.108.175:5060 Also, the presence does not work reliably, it seems that the freebox simply drops some packets (!!??) Moreover, if I call 520, I do not receive the callback (but I receive it in non router mode). Do you know more about this? Do you have any pointer? I have searched on Internet without any useful information. Thanks, I am not familiar with freebox. What is non-router mode? Does freebox have an adsl modem in it? router mode = with nat; non router = you have only one computer, with the public ip freebox connect people to Internet through adsl. -- Eugen ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga beginner questions
Eugen Dedu wrote: > H.S. wrote: >> I am not familiar with freebox. What is non-router mode? Does freebox >> have an adsl modem in it? > > router mode = with nat; non router = you have only one computer, with > the public ip > freebox connect people to Internet through adsl. > Ah, right. I am familiar with non-router mode as bridge mode. Looks like freebox does have an adsl modem in it (or maybe a cable interface, if it goes with cable TV). Thanks. -- Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my email address are just filtered to a folder in my mailbox and get periodically deleted without ever having been read. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
[Ekiga-list] ekiga snapshot for Ubuntu 8.10
the installation instructions to install on Ubuntu 8.10 is simple, however it won't install. It seems that deb: http://snapshots.ekiga.net/snapshots/ubuntu/ intrepid main point to nothing. The intrepid snapshot does not exist. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] call waiting
Damien: Just wanted to follow up on the below. We where disusing conference button to conference in line 1 (button) through line 6 (button). Was hoping to see it in 2008... is there a new ETA? From: Damien Sandras To: Ekiga mailing list Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 2:37:46 AM Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] call waiting Le jeudi 27 septembre 2007 à 20:40 -0700, Michael a écrit : > Damien: > > Do you have an ETA / road map of when it can be expected? Also a > conference button to conference in line 1-6 would be a killer feature. > Probably after 3.00, except if we receive a patch before. That would mean after 2008. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsand...@ekiga.net ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga snapshot for Ubuntu 8.10
J. Paul Bissonnette wrote: the installation instructions to install on Ubuntu 8.10 is simple, however it won't install. It seems that deb: http://snapshots.ekiga.net/snapshots/ubuntu/ intrepid main point to nothing. The intrepid snapshot does not exist. Indeed, the http://snapshots.ekiga.net/snapshots/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/ directory has empty files. Could you try: deb http://snapshots.ekiga.net/snapshots/ubuntu/ hardy main ? Hoping it works... -- Eugen ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga snapshot for Ubuntu 8.10
I thought I was going blind. There is a dependency problem to work out. Depends: libedataserver1.2-9 (>=2.22.3) but it is not installable This is not in 8.10 repository, libedataserver1.2-8 and libedataserver1.2-11 are. It must be a hardy only package. (?) Ekgia may just sneak into existence in a day or so. Eugen Dedu wrote: J. Paul Bissonnette wrote: the installation instructions to install on Ubuntu 8.10 is simple, however it won't install. It seems that deb: http://snapshots.ekiga.net/snapshots/ubuntu/ intrepid main point to nothing. The intrepid snapshot does not exist. Indeed, the http://snapshots.ekiga.net/snapshots/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/ directory has empty files. Could you try: deb http://snapshots.ekiga.net/snapshots/ubuntu/ hardy main ? Hoping it works... ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga snapshot for Ubuntu 8.10
This is a dirty solution, but might work: force the installation (without taking into account that dependency). By the way, ekiga is old there, from september/october 2008. Or wait until the next ubuntu provides ekiga, next month... J. Paul Bissonnette wrote: I thought I was going blind. There is a dependency problem to work out. Depends: libedataserver1.2-9 (>=2.22.3) but it is not installable This is not in 8.10 repository, libedataserver1.2-8 and libedataserver1.2-11 are. It must be a hardy only package. (?) Ekgia may just sneak into existence in a day or so. Eugen Dedu wrote: J. Paul Bissonnette wrote: the installation instructions to install on Ubuntu 8.10 is simple, however it won't install. It seems that deb: http://snapshots.ekiga.net/snapshots/ubuntu/ intrepid main point to nothing. The intrepid snapshot does not exist. Indeed, the http://snapshots.ekiga.net/snapshots/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/ directory has empty files. Could you try: deb http://snapshots.ekiga.net/snapshots/ubuntu/ hardy main ? Hoping it works... ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga snapshot for Ubuntu 8.10
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:45 PM, J. Paul Bissonnette wrote: > I thought I was going blind. > There is a dependency problem to work out. > Depends: libedataserver1.2-9 (>=2.22.3) but it is not installable > This is not in 8.10 repository, libedataserver1.2-8 and libedataserver1.2-11 > are. It must be a hardy only package. (?) I'd say most likely but I don't use hardy anymore and don't know what's there. libedataserver1.2-11 is definitely in intrepid. I have used Yannick's PPA and it installs cleanly into intrepid, no dependency problems. However, it only provides 3.0.1, which is a win over intrepid since it only provides 2.x something of ekiga. # ekiga deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tlbdk/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/tlbdk/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main (from my /etc/apt/sources list) I'd suggest using that, or rolling your own binary. Installing by forcing to override a dependency could break things. -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga snapshot for Ubuntu 8.10
David Fox wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:45 PM, J. Paul Bissonnette wrote: I thought I was going blind. There is a dependency problem to work out. Depends: libedataserver1.2-9 (>=2.22.3) but it is not installable This is not in 8.10 repository, libedataserver1.2-8 and libedataserver1.2-11 are. It must be a hardy only package. (?) I'd say most likely but I don't use hardy anymore and don't know what's there. libedataserver1.2-11 is definitely in intrepid. I have used Yannick's PPA and it installs cleanly into intrepid, no dependency problems. However, it only provides 3.0.1, which is a win over intrepid since it only provides 2.x something of ekiga. # ekiga deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tlbdk/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/tlbdk/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main Very well, I updated the wiki accordingly (http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Snapshots#Ubuntu). -- Eugen ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga snapshot for Ubuntu 8.10
I'll wait to next month, planned on a yearly update anyway Eugen Dedu wrote: This is a dirty solution, but might work: force the installation (without taking into account that dependency). By the way, ekiga is old there, from september/october 2008. Or wait until the next ubuntu provides ekiga, next month... J. Paul Bissonnette wrote: I thought I was going blind. There is a dependency problem to work out. Depends: libedataserver1.2-9 (>=2.22.3) but it is not installable This is not in 8.10 repository, libedataserver1.2-8 and libedataserver1.2-11 are. It must be a hardy only package. (?) Ekgia may just sneak into existence in a day or so. Eugen Dedu wrote: J. Paul Bissonnette wrote: the installation instructions to install on Ubuntu 8.10 is simple, however it won't install. It seems that deb: http://snapshots.ekiga.net/snapshots/ubuntu/ intrepid main point to nothing. The intrepid snapshot does not exist. Indeed, the http://snapshots.ekiga.net/snapshots/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/ directory has empty files. Could you try: deb http://snapshots.ekiga.net/snapshots/ubuntu/ hardy main ? Hoping it works... ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] ekiga snapshot for Ubuntu 8.10
I'll give that a try tomorrow. It's time for a tall cool one. David Fox wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:45 PM, J. Paul Bissonnette wrote: I thought I was going blind. There is a dependency problem to work out. Depends: libedataserver1.2-9 (>=2.22.3) but it is not installable This is not in 8.10 repository, libedataserver1.2-8 and libedataserver1.2-11 are. It must be a hardy only package. (?) I'd say most likely but I don't use hardy anymore and don't know what's there. libedataserver1.2-11 is definitely in intrepid. I have used Yannick's PPA and it installs cleanly into intrepid, no dependency problems. However, it only provides 3.0.1, which is a win over intrepid since it only provides 2.x something of ekiga. # ekiga deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tlbdk/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/tlbdk/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main (from my /etc/apt/sources list) I'd suggest using that, or rolling your own binary. Installing by forcing to override a dependency could break things. -- ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
[Ekiga-list] auto-answering in ekiga-3.0.2
Hi, I think the auto-answering is a great feature in ekiga-2.0 version, but not found in ekiga-3. is there any plan to get auto-answering in ekiga-3? Thanks, Dongxu ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
