Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] Ekiga win32 compilation issue with opal (H.264)
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Mahesh Sukumar smahesh1982ru...@netscape.net wrote: Hi All, I am trying to cross-compile Ekiga (Ver. 3.2) for win32 and am getting the following error with Opal (H.264) - Can anyone please let me know if I am missing any step here? I get the same error with Ekiga Ver. 3.1.2 too! You'll need the x264 library. Their web site is http://www.videolan.org/developers/x264.html Peter ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
[Ekiga-devel-list] High resolutions with H.264
Hi, First of all, I'd like to thank everyone contributing to developing this great application and I hope to be able to contribute myself in the near future. A few weeks ago, I namely started working on a students project, which consists in upgrading Ekiga to permit videoconferencing at higher resolutions (960x720 or above) over a LAN or a fiber optic connection. In order to achieve this goal, I decided to focus on the recently added CELT codec and the H.264 codec for audio and video transmission since they turn out to provide best results. As a development setup, I use two clients and a traffic shaper that are connected via LAN cables with the following configuration: A (Alice) [if = 192.168.1.10] [if = 192.168.1.20] S (TrafficShaper) [if = 192.168.2.20] [if = 192.168.2.10] B (Bob) Since the H.264 plugin in Opal 3.6.1 implements the baseline profile at level 3.0, the maximal frame size (= nb macroblocks) is 1620 according to h264_levels[] in h264frame.h. This limits the usage of this codec to a resolution of 704x576 or lower and to a maximal bandwidth of 10 Mbit/s. So, my idea was to use the same codec but at a higher profile. I finally decide to use the 4.1 level which offers maximal bandwidths of 50 Mbit/s and supports all the defined resolutions in h264_resolutions[] (up to 1920x1088). To do so, I changed the profile-level-id in h264-x264.cxx, in its header file and in enc-ctx.h from 42C01E to 42C029 (since Ox29 corresponds to 41 in decimal). Moreover, I successfully added new resolution definitions (up to 1600x1200) to videoinput-info.h. I am now able to output the video locally at these resolutions. Though, Ekiga crashes when establishing a new videoconferencing session with the remote client when I use resolutions higher than VGA (I tried 800x600, 960x720 and 1024x768). It works well for VGA resolution or lower with the new profile level. When analysing the traffic between the two clients, it seems that the client that initated the session (B in my case) crashes as soon as it receives the first (few) H.264 RTP packet(s) from the other client, while A does not receive any video packet. Here are some intersting parts of B's log file produced when a session is established at a resolution of 1024x768: 2009/04/01 16:02:30.775 0:44.603 Aggregator:0xad1a0b90 OpalPluginto_normalised_options: H.264 h264-x264.cxx(558)H264CapProfile and Level: 66;192;41 h264-x264.cxx(473)H264CapFrame Size: 3072(8192) h264-x264.cxx(498)H264CapMB/s: 92160(245760) h264-x264.cxx(449)H264CapBitrate: 1024(5000) = The values are correctly retrieved from the 41 level_idc in the h264_levels[] array. h264-x264.cxx(217)H264DecoderDecoder successfully opened 2009/04/01 16:02:31.177 0:45.005 Aggregator:0xad1a0b90 OpalPluginSetting decoder options: Format Name = H.264 Media Type = video Payload Type = [pt=123] Encoding Name = h264 Bandwidth-TIAS (R/W) = 768000 UnsignedInt CAP RFC3894 Packetization Mode (R/W) = 1 FMTP name: packetization-mode (5) String CAP RFC3894 Profile Level (R/W) = 42c029FMTP name: profile-level-id (00) String Clock Rate (R/O) = 9 UnsignedInt Frame Height (R/W) = 768UnsignedInt Frame Time (R/W) = 3000 UnsignedInt Frame Width (R/W) = 1024 UnsignedInt Max Bit Rate (R/W) = 4096000UnsignedInt Max Frame Size (R/O) = 1400 UnsignedInt Max Rx Frame Height (R/W) = 1088 UnsignedInt Max Rx Frame Width (R/W) = 1920 UnsignedInt Min Rx Frame Height (R/W) = 120UnsignedInt Min Rx Frame Width (R/W) = 160UnsignedInt Rate Control Enable (R/W) = 1 Boolean Rate Control Max Frames Skip (R/W) = 1 UnsignedInt Rate Control Window Size (R/W) = 500UnsignedInt Rate Controller Bit Rate Scaler (R/W) = 100UnsignedInt Target Bit Rate (R/W) = 4096000UnsignedInt Temporal Spatial Trade Off (R/O) = 31 UnsignedInt Tx Key Frame Period (R/W) = 125UnsignedInt enc-ctx.cxx(115)H264Encoderx264 encoder successfully opened 2009/04/01 16:02:32.181 0:46.009 Aggregator:0xad1a0b90 OpalPluginSetting encoder options: Format Name = H.264 Media Type = video Payload Type = [pt=123] Encoding Name = h264 Bandwidth-TIAS (R/W) = 768000 UnsignedInt CAP RFC3894 Packetization Mode (R/W) = 1 FMTP name: packetization-mode (5) String CAP RFC3894 Profile Level (R/W) = 42c029
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] High resolutions with H.264
Haeernilion wrote: Hi, First of all, I'd like to thank everyone contributing to developing this great application and I hope to be able to contribute myself in the near future. A few weeks ago, I namely started working on a students project, which consists in upgrading Ekiga to permit videoconferencing at higher resolutions (960x720 or above) over a LAN or a fiber optic connection. In order to achieve this goal, I decided to focus on the recently added CELT codec and the H.264 codec for audio and video transmission since they turn out to provide best results. Hi, Very interesting analysis. Unfortunately, I cannot help much... Just a question: wouldn't be better to use the free theora codec instead of the non-free h264 (unavailable on some gnu/linux distributions)? Also, I have done some *empirical* tests with ekiga and theora turned out to be a bit better than h264 at 640x480 (still I am not specialist of codecs). Eugen ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] win32 issues
Ok I have submitted the two bug reports https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2728003group_id=204472atid=989748 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2728037group_id=204472atid=989748 Another Win32 issue, the crash on exit one: I have been fighting to obtain a debug built of ekiga which allows gdb to backtrace across different dlls. For others who try the same: in the win32 Makefile autogen.sh with --enable-opal-debug instead of --enable-debug and use -gstabs instead of -g as the debugging flag. Attached gdb backtrace was produced on an XP home machine using the gdb contained in https://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=204414use_mirror=switchfilename=gdbserver-6.8-002-20090131.exea=88862589 To me the underlying bug appears obscure. Apparenly, it happens when the sigc++ objects for the address book are destroyed. Can anyone suggest a strategy how to approach this crash? Regards Michael Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0xfeeefeee in ?? () (gdb) bt #0 0xfeeefeee in ?? () #1 0x07ef2183 in sigc::internal::slot_rep::disconnect (this=0x86ad470) at functors/slot_base.cc:50 #2 0x07ef21c3 in sigc::internal::slot_rep::notify (data=0x86ad470) at functors/slot_base.cc:63 #3 0x07ef1b51 in sigc::internal::trackable_callback_list::~trackable_callback_list (this=0x86d66b8) at trackable.cc:89 #4 0x07ef1c14 in sigc::trackable::notify_callbacks (this=0x865311c) at trackable.cc:67 #5 0x07ef1c57 in sigc::trackable::~trackable (this=0x865311c) at trackable.cc:51 #6 0x07ef1472 in sigc::signal_base::~signal_base (this=0x865311c) at signal_base.cc:107 #7 0x008ca3de in sigc::signal2void, gmref_ptrEkiga::Source, gmref_ptrEkiga::Book, sigc::nil::~signal2 () #8 0x004762bc in Ekiga::ContactCore::~ContactCore (this=0x8653110) at ../../../lib/engine/addressbook/contact-core.cpp:51 #9 0x0093ace0 in GmRefCounted::unreference () #10 0x0092fe1a in gmref_ptrEkiga::Service::reset () #11 0x0093039d in gmref_ptrEkiga::Service::~gmref_ptr () #12 0x00925825 in __gnu_cxx::new_allocatorgmref_ptrEkiga::Service ::destroy() #13 0x00a086a0 in std::listgmref_ptrEkiga::Service, std::allocatorgmref_ptrEkiga::Service ::_M_erase () #14 0x00a0875d in std::listgmref_ptrEkiga::Service, std::allocatorgmref_ptrEkiga::Service ::pop_front () #15 0x0043c35f in Ekiga::ServiceCore::~ServiceCore (this=0x8678ee8) at ../../../lib/engine/framework/services.cpp:46 #16 0x00457112 in engine_stop () at engine.cpp:314 #17 0x0042299f in GnomeMeeting::StopEngine (this=0xb3a0d0) at ekiga.cpp:248 #18 0x0040f4b4 in main (argc=2359232, argv=0x40f59f) at gui/main.cpp:4575 (gdb)___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] win32 issues, and Linux too?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Rickmann a écrit : Ok I have submitted the two bug reports https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2728003group_id=204472atid=989748 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2728037group_id=204472atid=989748 Another Win32 issue, the crash on exit one: I have been fighting to There is people using 3.2 on linux report the same symptom: crash on exit, e.g. see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/353716 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/352215 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/352208 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/352342 obtain a debug built of ekiga which allows gdb to backtrace across different dlls. For others who try the same: in the win32 Makefile autogen.sh with --enable-opal-debug instead of --enable-debug and use -gstabs instead of -g as the debugging flag. Attached gdb backtrace was produced on an XP home machine using the gdb contained in https://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=204414use_mirror=switchfilename=gdbserver-6.8-002-20090131.exea=88862589 To me the underlying bug appears obscure. Apparenly, it happens when the sigc++ objects for the address book are destroyed. Can anyone suggest a strategy how to approach this crash? Regards Michael ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknV6xAACgkQaP9jcuuuScBZKwCfXDxNrXwBzPQ3G8L9HG+xkjE9 C6wAn2mDOkawGepvE31GvjmcTg4jX8se =wtsW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] win32 issues
Michael Rickmann wrote: Ok I have submitted the two bug reports https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2728003group_id=204472atid=989748 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2728037group_id=204472atid=989748 Another Win32 issue, the crash on exit one: I have been fighting to obtain a debug built of ekiga which allows gdb to backtrace across different dlls. For others who try the same: in the win32 Makefile autogen.sh with --enable-opal-debug instead of --enable-debug and use -gstabs instead of -g as the debugging flag. Attached gdb backtrace was produced on an XP home machine using the gdb contained in https://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=204414use_mirror=switchfilename=gdbserver-6.8-002-20090131.exea=88862589 To me the underlying bug appears obscure. Apparenly, it happens when the sigc++ objects for the address book are destroyed. Can anyone suggest a strategy how to approach this crash? This is a bug which appears on gnu/linux too and which gives headaches to snark :o) Please be patient (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=570008). -- Eugen ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
[Ekiga-devel-list] Ekiga white page are down.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Since at last Fri, 03 Apr 09 11:22:00 +0200, the Ekiga white pages are down. We are trying our best to fix this issue as soon as possible. Sorry for that. Best regards, Yannick -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknV67wACgkQaP9jcuuuScBfegCdFul5NqaGyKrtVL4zXuJy6541 lhkAoJh5/vq9Ch3PWbbqXOjRzxX8hWvk =pC96 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] win32 issues
Eugen Dedu a écrit : Michael Rickmann wrote: Ok I have submitted the two bug reports https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2728003group_id=204472atid=989748 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2728037group_id=204472atid=989748 Another Win32 issue, the crash on exit one: I have been fighting to obtain a debug built of ekiga which allows gdb to backtrace across different dlls. For others who try the same: in the win32 Makefile autogen.sh with --enable-opal-debug instead of --enable-debug and use -gstabs instead of -g as the debugging flag. Attached gdb backtrace was produced on an XP home machine using the gdb contained in https://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=204414use_mirror=switchfilename=gdbserver-6.8-002-20090131.exea=88862589 To me the underlying bug appears obscure. Apparenly, it happens when the sigc++ objects for the address book are destroyed. Can anyone suggest a strategy how to approach this crash? This is a bug which appears on gnu/linux too and which gives headaches to snark :o) Please be patient (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=570008). Oh, yes, I know that bug... but I still haven't understood it... and the fact that I can't reproduce it doesn't help (I get other crashes... in ptlib/opal). Snark ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] win32 issues
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Julien Puydt a écrit : Julien Puydt a écrit : Oh, yes, I know that bug... but I still haven't understood it... and the fact that I can't reproduce it doesn't help (I get other crashes... in ptlib/opal). I got an idea and pushed a would-be fix... but since I can't reproduce that particular crash, then I'm waiting for feedback to confirm. And I'll need to review the code to find out if there are more occurrences of this situation. Well, there is a pool of people having this crash with ubuntu, those users are using the dev version of ubuntu, if you provide me a patch for the 3.2.0 source, we could probably build a package using the Ubuntu PPA service and ask those people to try the resulting package. Snark ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknV/O4ACgkQaP9jcuuuScDHJgCfeUjhwXmRUlIGlrdG4bc6x+Zc 4AUAoIVa6MiG2MUZQScUnouh+pDeknCk =5Oby -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] win32 issues
yannick a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Julien Puydt a écrit : Julien Puydt a écrit : Oh, yes, I know that bug... but I still haven't understood it... and the fact that I can't reproduce it doesn't help (I get other crashes... in ptlib/opal). I got an idea and pushed a would-be fix... but since I can't reproduce that particular crash, then I'm waiting for feedback to confirm. And I'll need to review the code to find out if there are more occurrences of this situation. Well, there is a pool of people having this crash with ubuntu, those users are using the dev version of ubuntu, if you provide me a patch for the 3.2.0 source, we could probably build a package using the Ubuntu PPA service and ask those people to try the resulting package. I pushed it in trunk... and I haven't put in trunk anything I don't intend to push into stable (I'll still check before pushing though). Snark ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] [Ekiga-list] Ekiga 3.2 is in Ubuntu 9.04
yannick a écrit : H.S. a écrit : yannick wrote: yannick a écrit : Hello, Ken VanDine from Ubuntu made a package of Ekiga 3.2 for the incoming Ubuntu 9.04, it lacks several codecs but it is important to try it for a possible integration to the next stable release of Ubuntu. Further information and package here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/341367 Best regards, Yannick Ekiga 3.2 has been approved for Ubuntu 9.04: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/341367/comments/21 Any news about the number of codecs included with it? Thanks. Ekiga 3.2.0 just hited the official repository for Ubuntu 9.04, it has the G722 audio codec and all the audio codecs previously present. Video codecs are H261 and Theora. Codecs lacking are: Audio: CELT and ILBC Video: H263, H263-1998, MP4V-ES, H264 I opened a bug report in Ubuntu BTS about this issue here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/351606 In this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opal/+bug/316971 a user builded packages for some codecs lacking in the official Ekiga 3.2 package for Ubuntu Jaunty. For now the video codec H.264 and the audio codec iLBC are available in its PPA: https://launchpad.net/~bojo42/+archive/ekiga He asked for testing them. Any testers are welcome, please report on the bug report mentionned above. Best regards, Yannick ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] win32 issues, and Linux too?
Ok I have submitted the two bug reports https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2728003group_id=204472atid=989748 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2728037group_id=204472atid=989748 Another Win32 issue, the crash on exit one: I have been fighting to There is people using 3.2 on linux report the same symptom: crash on exit, e.g. see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/353716 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/352215 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/352208 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/352342 I'm seeing some issues on fedora rawhide with 3.2 as well. In fact 3.1.0 seemed to be OK, and 3.1.2 and 3.2 have some issues. Still trying to get some useful debug output from the endusers. Peter ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] [Ekiga-list] Ekiga white page are down.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 yannick a écrit : Hello, Since at last Fri, 03 Apr 09 11:22:00 +0200, the Ekiga white pages are down. We are trying our best to fix this issue as soon as possible. It is up again now. Sorry for that. Best regards, Yannick ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-l...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknWS3sACgkQaP9jcuuuScBGIwCcCdHHZRHHDY5BiB4ybSy9qPsU MUoAoIv7qJC54Z9vLt5RIDaJxEGhBTUA =VBd+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] Ekiga win32 compilation issue with opal (H.264)
Thanks Peter, but I already have x.264 libraries on the host system and the win32 makefile too pulled the x.264 source automatically! Should I be doing any modifications to the OPAL plugins Makefile? Mahesh. Peter Robinson wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Mahesh Sukumar smahesh1982ru...@netscape.net wrote: Hi All, I am trying to cross-compile Ekiga (Ver. 3.2) for win32 and am getting the following error with Opal (H.264) - Can anyone please let me know if I am missing any step here? I get the same error with Ekiga Ver. 3.1.2 too! You'll need the x264 library. Their web site is http://www.videolan.org/developers/x264.html Peter ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] Ekiga win32 compilation issue with opal (H.264)
are you linking them? please post the linker output. try CFLAGS=--verbose -save-temps CXXFLAGS=--verbose -save-temps On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Mahesh Sukumar smahesh1982ru...@netscape.net wrote: Thanks Peter, but I already have x.264 libraries on the host system and the win32 makefile too pulled the x.264 source automatically! Should I be doing any modifications to the OPAL plugins Makefile? Mahesh. Peter Robinson wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Mahesh Sukumar smahesh1982ru...@netscape.net wrote: Hi All, I am trying to cross-compile Ekiga (Ver. 3.2) for win32 and am getting the following error with Opal (H.264) - Can anyone please let me know if I am missing any step here? I get the same error with Ekiga Ver. 3.1.2 too! You'll need the x264 library. Their web site is http://www.videolan.org/developers/x264.html Peter ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] Ekiga win32 compilation issue with opal (H.264)
I still get almost the same error (after setting CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS to --verbose -save-temps) I am using 64bit Ubuntu (and therefore 64bit H.264 libs and libs-dev) for this cross compilation. Can this be a cause for this problem? _*ERROR OUTPUT:*_ GNU C++ version 4.2.1-sjlj (mingw32-2) (i586-mingw32msvc) compiled by GNU C version 4.2.3 20071210 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.2.2-4ubuntu1). GGC heuristics: --param ggc-min-expand=100 --param ggc-min-heapsize=131072 Compiler executable checksum: 154b8a53992189755305fccd99087270 /usr/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32msvc/4.2.1-sjlj/../../../../i586-mingw32msvc/bin/as -o obj/h264helper_win32.o h264helper_win32.s i586-mingw32msvc-g++ -mms-bitfields -g -L/home/mahesh/Downloads/ekiga-3.2.0/win32/lib -lx264 -o h264_video_pwplugin_helper.exe obj/h264frame.o obj/trace.o obj/enc-ctx.o obj/h264helper_win32.o obj/h264frame.o:/home/mahesh/Downloads/ekiga-3.2.0/win32/opal/plugins/video/H.264/gpl/../shared/h264frame.cxx:103: undefined reference to `_x264_nal_encode' obj/enc-ctx.o:/home/mahesh/Downloads/ekiga-3.2.0/win32/opal/plugins/video/H.264/gpl/enc-ctx.cxx:207: undefined reference to `_x264_encoder_close' obj/enc-ctx.o:/home/mahesh/Downloads/ekiga-3.2.0/win32/opal/plugins/video/H.264/gpl/enc-ctx.cxx:208: undefined reference to `_x264_encoder_open' obj/enc-ctx.o:/home/mahesh/Downloads/ekiga-3.2.0/win32/opal/plugins/video/H.264/gpl/enc-ctx.cxx:259: undefined reference to `_x264_encoder_close' obj/enc-ctx.o:/home/mahesh/Downloads/ekiga-3.2.0/win32/opal/plugins/video/H.264/gpl/enc-ctx.cxx:262: undefined reference to `_x264_encoder_open' obj/enc-ctx.o:/home/mahesh/Downloads/ekiga-3.2.0/win32/opal/plugins/video/H.264/gpl/enc-ctx.cxx:289: undefined reference to `_x264_encoder_encode' obj/enc-ctx.o: In function `~X264EncoderContext': /home/mahesh/Downloads/ekiga-3.2.0/win32/opal/plugins/video/H.264/gpl/enc-ctx.cxx:123: undefined reference to `_x264_encoder_close' /home/mahesh/Downloads/ekiga-3.2.0/win32/opal/plugins/video/H.264/gpl/enc-ctx.cxx:123: undefined reference to `_x264_encoder_close' obj/enc-ctx.o: In function `X264EncoderContext': /home/mahesh/Downloads/ekiga-3.2.0/win32/opal/plugins/video/H.264/gpl/enc-ctx.cxx:76: undefined reference to `_x264_param_default' /home/mahesh/Downloads/ekiga-3.2.0/win32/opal/plugins/video/H.264/gpl/enc-ctx.cxx:108: undefined reference to `_x264_encoder_open' /home/mahesh/Downloads/ekiga-3.2.0/win32/opal/plugins/video/H.264/gpl/enc-ctx.cxx:76: undefined reference to `_x264_param_default' /home/mahesh/Downloads/ekiga-3.2.0/win32/opal/plugins/video/H.264/gpl/enc-ctx.cxx:108: undefined reference to `_x264_encoder_open' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[4]: *** [h264_video_pwplugin_helper.exe] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/mahesh/Downloads/ekiga-3.2.0/win32/opal/plugins/video/H.264/gpl' make[3]: *** [h264_video_pwplugin.dll] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/mahesh/Downloads/ekiga-3.2.0/win32/opal/plugins/video/H.264' make[2]: *** [all] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/mahesh/Downloads/ekiga-3.2.0/win32/opal/plugins' make[1]: *** [subdirs] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mahesh/Downloads/ekiga-3.2.0/win32/opal' make: *** [/home/mahesh/Downloads/ekiga-3.2.0/win32/lib/libopal_s.a] Error 2 mah...@akhanda-bharatham:~/Downloads/ekiga-3.2.0/win32$ Thanks, Mahesh. jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: are you linking them? please post the linker output. try CFLAGS=--verbose -save-temps CXXFLAGS=--verbose -save-temps On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Mahesh Sukumar smahesh1982ru...@netscape.net wrote: Thanks Peter, but I already have x.264 libraries on the host system and the win32 makefile too pulled the x.264 source automatically! Should I be doing any modifications to the OPAL plugins Makefile? Mahesh. Peter Robinson wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Mahesh Sukumar smahesh1982ru...@netscape.net wrote: Hi All, I am trying to cross-compile Ekiga (Ver. 3.2) for win32 and am getting the following error with Opal (H.264) - Can anyone please let me know if I am missing any step here? I get the same error with Ekiga Ver. 3.1.2 too! You'll need the x264 library. Their web site is http://www.videolan.org/developers/x264.html Peter ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
[Ekiga-list] Ekiga white page are down.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Since at last Fri, 03 Apr 09 11:22:00 +0200, the Ekiga white pages are down. We are trying our best to fix this issue as soon as possible. Sorry for that. Best regards, Yannick -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknV67wACgkQaP9jcuuuScBfegCdFul5NqaGyKrtVL4zXuJy6541 lhkAoJh5/vq9Ch3PWbbqXOjRzxX8hWvk =pC96 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga white page are down.
If this means that the \unknown callers\ (which often bother several times a day) cannot find my SIP address anymore, then it is actually a good thing... I would actually vote for shutting the white page down until it is not possible for the user to remove his address from there! Palo - Originálna Správa - Od: yannick Komu: Ekiga development mailing list , Ekiga mailing list Poslaná: 03.04.2009 12:58 Predmet: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga white page are down. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Since at last Fri, 03 Apr 09 11:22:00 +0200, the Ekiga white pages are down. We are trying our best to fix this issue as soon as possible. Sorry for that. Best regards, Yannick -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknV67wACgkQaP9jcuuuScBfegCdFul5NqaGyKrtVL4zXuJy6541 lhkAoJh5/vq9Ch3PWbbqXOjRzxX8hWvk =pC96 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list __ Mozaika storočia denníka SME - http://mozaika.sme.sk ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga white page are down.
Palo S. wrote: If this means that the \unknown callers\ (which often bother several times a day) cannot find my SIP address anymore, then it is actually a good thing... I would actually vote for shutting the white page down until it is not possible for the user to remove his address from there! Does ekiga show unknown user or does it show a valid address? A solution would be to have a check box where the user can say reject unknown callers... (need to be analysed) -- Eugen ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga white page are down.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eugen Dedu a écrit : Palo S. wrote: If this means that the \unknown callers\ (which often bother several times a day) cannot find my SIP address anymore, then it is actually a good thing... I would actually vote for shutting the white page down until it is not possible for the user to remove his address from there! Does ekiga show unknown user or does it show a valid address? A solution would be to have a check box where the user can say reject unknown callers... (need to be analysed) There is 2 levels to implement such feature, and there is plan for both of them: Ekiga.net: http://webxser.tuxfamily.org/flyspray/index.php?do=detailstask_id=6 Ekiga: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454342 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknWFdkACgkQaP9jcuuuScB9CwCgj/eRjV54b+CFEml/I8uT3D+8 iEIAoKMvetiWc4FkHCTudLP6rIVc4yOy =uePS -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] [Ekiga-devel-list] Ekiga 3.2 is in Ubuntu 9.04
yannick a écrit : H.S. a écrit : yannick wrote: yannick a écrit : Hello, Ken VanDine from Ubuntu made a package of Ekiga 3.2 for the incoming Ubuntu 9.04, it lacks several codecs but it is important to try it for a possible integration to the next stable release of Ubuntu. Further information and package here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/341367 Best regards, Yannick Ekiga 3.2 has been approved for Ubuntu 9.04: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/341367/comments/21 Any news about the number of codecs included with it? Thanks. Ekiga 3.2.0 just hited the official repository for Ubuntu 9.04, it has the G722 audio codec and all the audio codecs previously present. Video codecs are H261 and Theora. Codecs lacking are: Audio: CELT and ILBC Video: H263, H263-1998, MP4V-ES, H264 I opened a bug report in Ubuntu BTS about this issue here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/351606 In this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opal/+bug/316971 a user builded packages for some codecs lacking in the official Ekiga 3.2 package for Ubuntu Jaunty. For now the video codec H.264 and the audio codec iLBC are available in its PPA: https://launchpad.net/~bojo42/+archive/ekiga He asked for testing them. Any testers are welcome, please report on the bug report mentionned above. Best regards, Yannick ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list ekiga-devel-l...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Could not register (Requested terminated) w/ ekiga-3.2
Hi Mounir What overlay is Ekiga 3 in? The version on packages.gentoo.org is 2.0.12. I'm a Gentoo user too and have my own Asterisk, so I have some freedom in how to test e.g. Ekiga. I have Ekiga 3.0.2 (build from the sources on ekiga.org) running and am willing to give Ekiga 3.1 some testing om my setup if I could get a suitable ebuild for it. Kind regards, Bent ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] [Ekiga-devel-list] Ekiga 3.2 is in Ubuntu 9.04
Good to hear more from you, I assume you've really been busy. My question is what about a large number of us running Ubuntu 8.04 32 bit mode? I'm especially interested in the WEB camera drivers. They don't seem to be updated when I upgraded both of my systems from 7.10 and secondly the white pages haven't work at least on my system since Ekiga 2.0.12. Stu Lesnett On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 17:47 +0200, yannick wrote: yannick a écrit : H.S. a écrit : yannick wrote: yannick a écrit : Hello, Ken VanDine from Ubuntu made a package of Ekiga 3.2 for the incoming Ubuntu 9.04, it lacks several codecs but it is important to try it for a possible integration to the next stable release of Ubuntu. Further information and package here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/341367 Best regards, Yannick Ekiga 3.2 has been approved for Ubuntu 9.04: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/341367/comments/21 Any news about the number of codecs included with it? Thanks. Ekiga 3.2.0 just hited the official repository for Ubuntu 9.04, it has the G722 audio codec and all the audio codecs previously present. Video codecs are H261 and Theora. Codecs lacking are: Audio: CELT and ILBC Video: H263, H263-1998, MP4V-ES, H264 I opened a bug report in Ubuntu BTS about this issue here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/351606 In this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opal/+bug/316971 a user builded packages for some codecs lacking in the official Ekiga 3.2 package for Ubuntu Jaunty. For now the video codec H.264 and the audio codec iLBC are available in its PPA: https://launchpad.net/~bojo42/+archive/ekiga He asked for testing them. Any testers are welcome, please report on the bug report mentionned above. Best regards, Yannick ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list ekiga-devel-l...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Could not register (Requested terminated) w/ ekiga-3.2
Hi, On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Bent bbag...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mounir What overlay is Ekiga 3 in? The version on packages.gentoo.org is 2.0.12. I'm a Gentoo user too and have my own Asterisk, so I have some freedom in how to test e.g. Ekiga. You will found ekiga 3.0.2 and ekiga 3.2.0 in the voip overlay (layman -a voip). They are masked (as opal and ptlib versions) so you will have to unmask net-libs/ptlib net-libs/opal and net-im/ekiga I have Ekiga 3.0.2 (build from the sources on ekiga.org) running and am willing to give Ekiga 3.1 some testing om my setup if I could get a suitable ebuild for it. Hope the ebuilds we provide in the voip overlay will help you. Thanks, Mounir ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] [Ekiga-devel-list] Ekiga 3.2 is in Ubuntu 9.04
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Stuart Lesnett stuart_lesn...@lesnett.com wrote: Good to hear more from you, I assume you've really been busy. My question is what about a large number of us running Ubuntu 8.04 32 bit mode? I'm That particular repository doesn't have 8.04 packages, just 8.10 and 9.04. Something that might work (YMMV, of course) would be to grab the deb-src line for either intrepid or jaunty (it shouldn't matter which), add it to your /etc/apt/sources.list, and then do an aptitude update to synchronize the repository to your local package collection. Then you could try to do apt-get -b source ekiga which, if it fetches the ppa repository will attempt to build a local .deb package for your system. You'll probably want to do an apt-get build-dep ekiga so that all the build dependencies are downloaded so you can build those as well. Usually, you'll have to apt-get -b source the dependencies (opal and ptlib for sure, perhaps others) and of course run any build-dep sessions against those dependencies, if they have not already been installed on your system. It's a bit repetitive, but it should work - disclaimer is that I didn't try this method with ekiga, and I no longer have any machines that are running hardy, so I can't (easily) test. I have done this bit with a few other packages, most notably amarok-nightly, because the Neon stuff (daily builds) aren't available in 9.04, so I added the source repository for intrepid and built the package for jaunty, and it actually worked (at least up until 3/18, after that, there are build dependencies on packages that I can't obtain yet). In retrospect, it's probably easier to do things that way than the way I did it before for 3.2.0 sources, which was to do repetitive ./configures, watch the thing blow up, go find the missing dependencies, install them, rinse and repeat :). Stu Lesnett -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga white page are down.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 yannick a écrit : Hello, Since at last Fri, 03 Apr 09 11:22:00 +0200, the Ekiga white pages are down. We are trying our best to fix this issue as soon as possible. It is up again now. Sorry for that. Best regards, Yannick ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknWS3sACgkQaP9jcuuuScBGIwCcCdHHZRHHDY5BiB4ybSy9qPsU MUoAoIv7qJC54Z9vLt5RIDaJxEGhBTUA =VBd+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] [Ekiga-devel-list] Ekiga 3.2 is in Ubuntu 9.04
David Fox wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Stuart Lesnett stuart_lesn...@lesnett.com wrote: Good to hear more from you, I assume you've really been busy. My question is what about a large number of us running Ubuntu 8.04 32 bit mode? I'm That particular repository doesn't have 8.04 packages, just 8.10 and 9.04. Something that might work (YMMV, of course) would be to grab the deb-src line for either intrepid or jaunty (it shouldn't matter which), add it to your /etc/apt/sources.list, and then do an aptitude update to synchronize the repository to your local package collection. Then you could try to do apt-get -b source ekiga which, if it fetches the ppa repository will attempt to build a local .deb package for your system. You'll probably want to do an apt-get build-dep ekiga so that all the build dependencies are downloaded so you can build those as well. Usually, you'll have to apt-get -b source the dependencies (opal and ptlib for sure, perhaps others) and of course run any build-dep sessions against those dependencies, if they have not already been installed on your system. It's a bit repetitive, but it should work - disclaimer is that I This whole process can be made much easier using /etc/apt/preferences in which one specified which exact packages to pull from which repos (the additional repos are mentioned in /etc/apt/sources.list or added to the rest of the repos via the GUI). The following pages show how it is gone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html This way one can mix various distributions or releases in a systematic manner. Regards. -- Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my email address are just filtered to a folder in my mailbox and get periodically deleted without ever having been read. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
[Ekiga-list] No voice playback in Ekiga test with Intrepid
I have a Dell Inspiron Mini-9 with Intrepid installed. I am not using the factory Dell Ubuntu, but the Dell Linux Desktops version. I do not remember if the playback worked or not in the configuration of Ekiga. The Mini has a built in web cam and microphone. The video works just fine and I can hear the test message, but I do not hear what I have said played back to me. I suspect that something isn't configured correctly as it had a sound problem that needed to be configured for the Mini. Anyone now the solution this problem? Thank you, Jim Barber Ubuntu since 2007 ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
[Ekiga-list] Echo in Calls
I have read previous posts on this subject, but I still cannot resolve the problem. I use Ekiga to make PC-to-Phone calls. I use a headset. I am running Ubuntu Jaunty beta, with PulseAudio. When I make calls, I can hear fine, with no echo, but the people I am talking to complain of a very bad echo. This includes both landlines and cellphones. There is also a delay between when they talk, and when I hear them. The headset I use has a mute button, but even if I mute my end, the other person still hears an echo. I have tried enabling both echo cancelation and silence detection in Ekiga's preferences, but this has had no effect at all on the echo. Ekiga's codec preferences are set to use Speex 16khz codec. I have a very good Comcast cable connection, with download rates in the 750mb-1gb range. Anyone have any idea how to fix this? Would turning off PulseAudio help? ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga white page are down.
David Fox a écrit : On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:46 AM, yannick sev...@free.fr wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 yannick a écrit : Hello, Since at last Fri, 03 Apr 09 11:22:00 +0200, the Ekiga white pages are down. We are trying our best to fix this issue as soon as possible. It is up again now. Have since tried going to the Directory on ekiga 3.2.0 (ubuntu official) on Jaunty, and there doesn't seem to be any activity, no listings, refresh doesn't seem to actively do anything. Well, I see this as a confirmation for a bug I had too: It seems when upgrading, the LDAP settings are not updated properly to the new LDAP system we now have in Ekiga 3.2 The solution is quit simple: in the address book window, just add a new address book for ekiga.net and erase the old one. The new one will work. My settings on the Ekiga net directory: ldap://ekiga.net:389 dc=ekiga,dc=net Search Scope = subtree Display Name attribute = cn Call attributes = telephonenumber Password is blank = is it required? There doesn't appear to be anything that requests the password in this area. Use TLS and Use SASL are both unchecked. Sasl mechanism - default.. Attached is a 95K -d 4 output in case that helps. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga white page are down.
yannick a écrit : David Fox a écrit : On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:46 AM, yannick sev...@free.fr wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 yannick a écrit : Hello, Since at last Fri, 03 Apr 09 11:22:00 +0200, the Ekiga white pages are down. We are trying our best to fix this issue as soon as possible. It is up again now. Have since tried going to the Directory on ekiga 3.2.0 (ubuntu official) on Jaunty, and there doesn't seem to be any activity, no listings, refresh doesn't seem to actively do anything. Well, I see this as a confirmation for a bug I had too: It seems when upgrading, the LDAP settings are not updated properly to the new LDAP system we now have in Ekiga 3.2 I opened a bug for that here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577881 The solution is quit simple: in the address book window, just add a new address book for ekiga.net and erase the old one. The new one will work. My settings on the Ekiga net directory: ldap://ekiga.net:389 dc=ekiga,dc=net Search Scope = subtree Display Name attribute = cn Call attributes = telephonenumber Password is blank = is it required? There doesn't appear to be anything that requests the password in this area. Use TLS and Use SASL are both unchecked. Sasl mechanism - default.. Attached is a 95K -d 4 output in case that helps. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga white page are down.
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:37 PM, yannick sev...@free.fr wrote: David Fox a écrit : The solution is quit simple: in the address book window, just add a new address book for ekiga.net and erase the old one. The new one will work. Hey it did! :) Thanks! -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
