Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

2009-11-06 Thread Eugen Dedu
Sohil Shah wrote:
 Hi,
 The new website looks good. Compilation steps in Linux are
 well documented; but I think that the same lacks for Windows. Moreover
 from then problems which I've been facing since last few days, I also
 suggest that some page of FAQs, mail archives, etc. should also be
 clearly visible. Details of compilation on Redhat, Fedora are also

The details of compilation are (fortunately!) identical to all the
gnu/linux distributions.  You need to tell us what the compilation
problems you have, I think they are not distribution-related (and might
be no problem after all).

 insufficient. Screenshots should also show multi user conference.

Could you give us a screenshot?

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Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

2009-11-06 Thread Eugen Dedu
yannick wrote:
 Le jeudi 29 octobre 2009 à 13:20 +, David Ford a écrit :
 Already a great improvement!
 A few small things though.
 1 - Community page says You can subscribe on the right of this page
 - it would be better, perhaps, to say See below for mailing list
 information - There is no subscribe info on the right.

 
 Fixed.
 
 2 - When the site goes live can we have a 'back to Home Page' link on
 all the wiki pages linked from the new site :
   * Documentation
   * Downloads - Linux
   * - snapshots
   * - source
 Or maybe just in the wiki main menu?
 (I notice that there is no Fedora paragraph in the wiki/Linux install
 instructions.)

 
 I did not find out how to change the main menu in the wiki.

http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/MediaWiki:Sidebar ?

 The plan is to move the wiki inside Drupal; this will fix the navigation
 issue. It might happen even sooner than I first though...
 
 Obviously a lot of work has gone into the new website - and it shows!
 A big pat on the back to everyone.
 
 Thank you.
 
 Best regards,
 Yannick
 
 David 

 On 28/10/09 19:05, yannick wrote: 
 Hi,

 We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to
 manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors
 expected it.

 We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested.

 For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience,
 explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a
 Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga.

 The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well
 know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content
 or the theme of the website much more easily.

 Please, visit the new website and provide us feedback before we go
 public. We want to provide the best experience possible.

 BETA Ekiga.org:
 http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/

 Best regards,
 On behalf of the Ekiga team,
 Yannick

   
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Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

2009-11-06 Thread Eugen Dedu
yannick wrote:
 Le mercredi 28 octobre 2009 à 15:26 -0700, Ed a écrit :
 I would
 rather see a listing of Ekiga's presence in various distros on the
 front page - rather than bottom of the roadmap page, also links to the
 debian/ubuntu/fedora etc repos. this would tell me that Ekiga was
 broadly available in my favorite ditros and it would also be nice if
 it lists the version in each repo. Even if it was just green light for
 current release, amber for stale release and red for not in repo.
 Snapshots are info for the developer community - which should have a
 separate home page - as part of Community maybe?
 
 Distro support is quite hard to achieve. I probably could code something
 to get automatically the version of Ekiga available in the main distros.

whohas is very handy here.  A small script, such as
whohas ekiga|tr -s  |cut -d  -f1,3
executed each night.  Note that there are many distributions, and each
distribution has several versions.

Or, better, at the beginning, we could just put the whole output of
whohas ekiga.  Later, we can improve it.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

2009-11-02 Thread yannick
Le jeudi 29 octobre 2009 à 13:20 +, David Ford a écrit :
 Already a great improvement!
 A few small things though.
 1 - Community page says You can subscribe on the right of this page
 - it would be better, perhaps, to say See below for mailing list
 information - There is no subscribe info on the right.
 

Fixed.

 2 - When the site goes live can we have a 'back to Home Page' link on
 all the wiki pages linked from the new site :
   * Documentation
   * Downloads - Linux
   * - snapshots
   * - source
 Or maybe just in the wiki main menu?
 (I notice that there is no Fedora paragraph in the wiki/Linux install
 instructions.)
 

I did not find out how to change the main menu in the wiki.

The plan is to move the wiki inside Drupal; this will fix the navigation
issue. It might happen even sooner than I first though...

 Obviously a lot of work has gone into the new website - and it shows!
 A big pat on the back to everyone.

Thank you.

Best regards,
Yannick

 David 
 
 On 28/10/09 19:05, yannick wrote: 
  Hi,
  
  We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to
  manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors
  expected it.
  
  We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested.
  
  For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience,
  explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a
  Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga.
  
  The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well
  know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content
  or the theme of the website much more easily.
  
  Please, visit the new website and provide us feedback before we go
  public. We want to provide the best experience possible.
  
  BETA Ekiga.org:
  http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/
  
  Best regards,
  On behalf of the Ekiga team,
  Yannick
  

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Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

2009-11-02 Thread yannick
Le jeudi 29 octobre 2009 à 09:31 +0530, Sohil Shah a écrit :
 Hi,
  The new website looks good. Compilation steps in Linux are 
 well documented; but I think that the same lacks for Windows. Moreover 
 from then problems which I've been facing since last few days, I also 
 suggest that some page of FAQs, mail archives, etc. should also be 
 clearly visible. Details of compilation on Redhat, Fedora are also 
 insufficient. Screenshots should also show multi user conference.
 These are merely my suggestions; No intentions of being 
 offensive :-)).

The documentation part, which is now in the wiki, will be reworked as
part of the wiki move to drupal. But it is a huge work I will do after
the Ekiga.net move to Drupal. Unfortunately, none of the core team use
Fedora/Red Hat, thus it is very hard for us to document it... If you
want, you can document this part; ask me and i'll grant you access to
the wiki.

Best regards,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

2009-11-01 Thread yannick
Le mercredi 28 octobre 2009 à 15:26 -0700, Ed a écrit :
 I would
 rather see a listing of Ekiga's presence in various distros on the
 front page - rather than bottom of the roadmap page, also links to the
 debian/ubuntu/fedora etc repos. this would tell me that Ekiga was
 broadly available in my favorite ditros and it would also be nice if
 it lists the version in each repo. Even if it was just green light for
 current release, amber for stale release and red for not in repo.
 Snapshots are info for the developer community - which should have a
 separate home page - as part of Community maybe?

Distro support is quite hard to achieve. I probably could code something
to get automatically the version of Ekiga available in the main distros.
But for an accurate view of available version outside the main
repositories we will need a contributor for each distro. Please contact
us if you want to give us relevant informations about a distro (any
distro; I speak about main distro when I think doing the support
myself but main is not much important, it just mean less work for
me).

Actually 3 members of the team deals with packaging our latest version
for Debian, Ubuntu and windows. You probably do not use one of them; the
green button on the main page automatically detect if you use one of
them (you need javascript enabled in your browser) and present the
visitor a direct link to the relevant information for debian or ubuntu
or windows. For now it is hand written and I plan to have an
administrator interface in Drupal for this feature.

Snapshot is IMHO more important than you think. We need tests and
testers. The more snapshots are tested, the best a release will be. I do
not plan to move it deeper.

Best regards,
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Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

2009-10-30 Thread Damien Sandras
Le vendredi 30 octobre 2009 à 00:16 +0100, yannick a écrit :

 Le jeudi 29 octobre 2009 à 21:19 +0100, Michal Svoboda a écrit :
  yannick wrote 1581 bytes:
   The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well
   know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content
   or the theme of the website much more easily.
  
  Everyone seems to move to Drupal now. Make sure you understand the
  security aspects of this mammoth. I did a blitz check and it seems
  /cron.php is world wide accessible.
  


If some people on the mailing list are interested in WEB design and want
to improve the website design, please
do not hesitate to collaborate to a new skin or to improvements to the
current skin so that we present the best 
community website possible.





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Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

2009-10-30 Thread yannick
Le vendredi 30 octobre 2009 à 08:52 +0100, Damien Sandras a écrit :
 Le vendredi 30 octobre 2009 à 00:16 +0100, yannick a écrit : 
  Le jeudi 29 octobre 2009 à 21:19 +0100, Michal Svoboda a écrit :
   yannick wrote 1581 bytes:
The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well
know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content
or the theme of the website much more easily.
   
   Everyone seems to move to Drupal now. Make sure you understand the
   security aspects of this mammoth. I did a blitz check and it seems
   /cron.php is world wide accessible.
   
 
 If some people on the mailing list are interested in WEB design and
 want to improve the website design, please
 do not hesitate to collaborate to a new skin or to improvements to the
 current skin so that we present the best 
 community website possible.

Hi,

The site was empty during the past night, it is now back up again (I
moved it...)

I'm using the zen theming engine for drupal. I find it helpful to start
theming.

Best regards,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

2009-10-30 Thread Damien Sandras
Le vendredi 30 octobre 2009 à 00:16 +0100, yannick a écrit :

 Le jeudi 29 octobre 2009 à 21:19 +0100, Michal Svoboda a écrit :
  yannick wrote 1581 bytes:
   The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well
   know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content
   or the theme of the website much more easily.
  
  Everyone seems to move to Drupal now. Make sure you understand the
  security aspects of this mammoth. I did a blitz check and it seems
  /cron.php is world wide accessible.
  


If some people on the mailing list are interested in WEB design and want
to improve the website design, please
do not hesitate to collaborate to a new skin or to improvements to the
current skin so that we present the best 
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Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

2009-10-30 Thread yannick
Le vendredi 30 octobre 2009 à 08:52 +0100, Damien Sandras a écrit :
 Le vendredi 30 octobre 2009 à 00:16 +0100, yannick a écrit : 
  Le jeudi 29 octobre 2009 à 21:19 +0100, Michal Svoboda a écrit :
   yannick wrote 1581 bytes:
The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well
know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content
or the theme of the website much more easily.
   
   Everyone seems to move to Drupal now. Make sure you understand the
   security aspects of this mammoth. I did a blitz check and it seems
   /cron.php is world wide accessible.
   
 
 If some people on the mailing list are interested in WEB design and
 want to improve the website design, please
 do not hesitate to collaborate to a new skin or to improvements to the
 current skin so that we present the best 
 community website possible.

Hi,

The site was empty during the past night, it is now back up again (I
moved it...)

I'm using the zen theming engine for drupal. I find it helpful to start
theming.

Best regards,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

2009-10-30 Thread Stuart Lesnett
Yannick,

Just visited the new site, nice job.

Stu 

On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 23:01 +0100, yannick wrote:

 Le mercredi 28 octobre 2009 à 21:01 +0100, geo cherchetout a écrit :
  Le 28.10.2009 20:05, *yannick* a écrit fort à propos :
   Hi,
   
   We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to
   manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors
   expected it.
   
   We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested.
   
   For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience,
   explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a
   Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga.
  
  Hello Yannick,
  
  On the main page, in the window Get Ekiga! the link Download Ekiga is
  broken: http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/downloads
  
  
 
 Indeed. Thank you. It is fixed now.
 
 Best regards,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

2009-10-29 Thread David Ford

Already a great improvement!
A few small things though.
1 - Community page says You can subscribe on the right of this page - 
it would be better, perhaps, to say See below for mailing list 
information - There is no subscribe info on the right.


2 - When the site goes live can we have a 'back to Home Page' link on 
all the wiki pages linked from the new site :


   * Documentation
   * Downloads - Linux
   * - snapshots
   * - source

Or maybe just in the wiki main menu?
(I notice that there is no Fedora paragraph in the wiki/Linux install 
instructions.)


Obviously a lot of work has gone into the new website - and it shows!
A big pat on the back to everyone.
David

On 28/10/09 19:05, yannick wrote:

Hi,

We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to
manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors
expected it.

We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested.

For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience,
explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a
Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga.

The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well
know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content
or the theme of the website much more easily.

Please, visit the new website and provide us feedback before we go
public. We want to provide the best experience possible.

BETA Ekiga.org:
http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/

Best regards,
On behalf of the Ekiga team,
Yannick

   
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Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

2009-10-29 Thread Michal Svoboda
yannick wrote 1581 bytes:
 The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well
 know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content
 or the theme of the website much more easily.

Everyone seems to move to Drupal now. Make sure you understand the
security aspects of this mammoth. I did a blitz check and it seems
/cron.php is world wide accessible.

Content-wise it seems to be nice. I appreciate the move.

Regards,
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Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

2009-10-29 Thread yannick
Le jeudi 29 octobre 2009 à 21:19 +0100, Michal Svoboda a écrit :
 yannick wrote 1581 bytes:
  The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well
  know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content
  or the theme of the website much more easily.
 
 Everyone seems to move to Drupal now. Make sure you understand the
 security aspects of this mammoth. I did a blitz check and it seems
 /cron.php is world wide accessible.
 

That's fixed. Thank you.

 Content-wise it seems to be nice. I appreciate the move.

:)

Best regards,
Yannick

 
 Regards,
 Michal Svoboda
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[Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

2009-10-28 Thread yannick
Hi,

We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to
manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors
expected it.

We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested.

For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience,
explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a
Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga.

The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well
know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content
or the theme of the website much more easily.

Please, visit the new website and provide us feedback before we go
public. We want to provide the best experience possible.

BETA Ekiga.org:
http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/

Best regards,
On behalf of the Ekiga team,
Yannick

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Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

2009-10-28 Thread geo cherchetout
Le 28.10.2009 20:05, *yannick* a écrit fort à propos :
 Hi,
 
 We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to
 manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors
 expected it.
 
 We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested.
 
 For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience,
 explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a
 Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga.

Hello Yannick,

On the main page, in the window Get Ekiga! the link Download Ekiga is
broken: http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/downloads




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Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

2009-10-28 Thread yannick
Le mercredi 28 octobre 2009 à 21:01 +0100, geo cherchetout a écrit :
 Le 28.10.2009 20:05, *yannick* a écrit fort à propos :
  Hi,
  
  We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to
  manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors
  expected it.
  
  We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested.
  
  For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience,
  explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a
  Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga.
 
 Hello Yannick,
 
 On the main page, in the window Get Ekiga! the link Download Ekiga is
 broken: http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/downloads
 
 

Indeed. Thank you. It is fixed now.

Best regards,
Yannick

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Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

2009-10-28 Thread Ed
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:01 PM, geo cherchetout
geo.cherchet...@laposte.net wrote:
 Le 28.10.2009 20:05, *yannick* a écrit fort à propos :
 Hi,

 We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to
 manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors
 expected it.

 We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested.

 For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience,
 explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a
 Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga.

 Hello Yannick,

 On the main page, in the window Get Ekiga! the link Download Ekiga is
 broken: http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/downloads



New site looks clean and to the point - Just thinking that after the
first or second latest release summary* it becomes less useful and you
loose the sense that there is additional info at the bottom. I would
rather see a listing of Ekiga's presence in various distros on the
front page - rather than bottom of the roadmap page, also links to the
debian/ubuntu/fedora etc repos. this would tell me that Ekiga was
broadly available in my favorite ditros and it would also be nice if
it lists the version in each repo. Even if it was just green light for
current release, amber for stale release and red for not in repo.
Snapshots are info for the developer community - which should have a
separate home page - as part of Community maybe?

 I would also like to see, on the Ekiga.org page, a graph (RRDTool)
and even RSS feed on the status of Ekiga.net - this should be the
designated offsite goto notice location to get info on Ekiga.net
when there may be problems. A graph of utilization would also go a
long way in getting some well deserved credit for Ekiga.net.

* a listing of latest minor revision changes followed by a major
revision summary works best IMHO - you could even add a coming
milestones section - more of a coming features set than the developer
focus that the raodmap page seams to have.

minor revisions changes summary (3.2.6 specifics  diff back to 3.0)
major revision achievement summary (3.0)
next major revision objectives (4.0)
distro status listing  links
ekiga.net graph  RSS
ekiga.net news

much thx for Ekiga - great stuff! download page made me laugh - Ponies!
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Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite

2009-10-28 Thread Sohil Shah

Hi,
The new website looks good. Compilation steps in Linux are 
well documented; but I think that the same lacks for Windows. Moreover 
from then problems which I've been facing since last few days, I also 
suggest that some page of FAQs, mail archives, etc. should also be 
clearly visible. Details of compilation on Redhat, Fedora are also 
insufficient. Screenshots should also show multi user conference.
   These are merely my suggestions; No intentions of being 
offensive :-)).


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On 10/29/2009 12:35 AM, yannick wrote:

Hi,

We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to
manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors
expected it.

We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested.

For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience,
explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a
Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga.

The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well
know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content
or the theme of the website much more easily.

Please, visit the new website and provide us feedback before we go
public. We want to provide the best experience possible.

BETA Ekiga.org:
http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/

Best regards,
On behalf of the Ekiga team,
Yannick

   



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