Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite
Sohil Shah wrote: Hi, The new website looks good. Compilation steps in Linux are well documented; but I think that the same lacks for Windows. Moreover from then problems which I've been facing since last few days, I also suggest that some page of FAQs, mail archives, etc. should also be clearly visible. Details of compilation on Redhat, Fedora are also The details of compilation are (fortunately!) identical to all the gnu/linux distributions. You need to tell us what the compilation problems you have, I think they are not distribution-related (and might be no problem after all). insufficient. Screenshots should also show multi user conference. Could you give us a screenshot? -- Eugen ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite
yannick wrote: Le jeudi 29 octobre 2009 à 13:20 +, David Ford a écrit : Already a great improvement! A few small things though. 1 - Community page says You can subscribe on the right of this page - it would be better, perhaps, to say See below for mailing list information - There is no subscribe info on the right. Fixed. 2 - When the site goes live can we have a 'back to Home Page' link on all the wiki pages linked from the new site : * Documentation * Downloads - Linux * - snapshots * - source Or maybe just in the wiki main menu? (I notice that there is no Fedora paragraph in the wiki/Linux install instructions.) I did not find out how to change the main menu in the wiki. http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/MediaWiki:Sidebar ? The plan is to move the wiki inside Drupal; this will fix the navigation issue. It might happen even sooner than I first though... Obviously a lot of work has gone into the new website - and it shows! A big pat on the back to everyone. Thank you. Best regards, Yannick David On 28/10/09 19:05, yannick wrote: Hi, We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors expected it. We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested. For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience, explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga. The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content or the theme of the website much more easily. Please, visit the new website and provide us feedback before we go public. We want to provide the best experience possible. BETA Ekiga.org: http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/ Best regards, On behalf of the Ekiga team, Yannick ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite
yannick wrote: Le mercredi 28 octobre 2009 à 15:26 -0700, Ed a écrit : I would rather see a listing of Ekiga's presence in various distros on the front page - rather than bottom of the roadmap page, also links to the debian/ubuntu/fedora etc repos. this would tell me that Ekiga was broadly available in my favorite ditros and it would also be nice if it lists the version in each repo. Even if it was just green light for current release, amber for stale release and red for not in repo. Snapshots are info for the developer community - which should have a separate home page - as part of Community maybe? Distro support is quite hard to achieve. I probably could code something to get automatically the version of Ekiga available in the main distros. whohas is very handy here. A small script, such as whohas ekiga|tr -s |cut -d -f1,3 executed each night. Note that there are many distributions, and each distribution has several versions. Or, better, at the beginning, we could just put the whole output of whohas ekiga. Later, we can improve it. -- Eugen ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite
Le jeudi 29 octobre 2009 à 13:20 +, David Ford a écrit : Already a great improvement! A few small things though. 1 - Community page says You can subscribe on the right of this page - it would be better, perhaps, to say See below for mailing list information - There is no subscribe info on the right. Fixed. 2 - When the site goes live can we have a 'back to Home Page' link on all the wiki pages linked from the new site : * Documentation * Downloads - Linux * - snapshots * - source Or maybe just in the wiki main menu? (I notice that there is no Fedora paragraph in the wiki/Linux install instructions.) I did not find out how to change the main menu in the wiki. The plan is to move the wiki inside Drupal; this will fix the navigation issue. It might happen even sooner than I first though... Obviously a lot of work has gone into the new website - and it shows! A big pat on the back to everyone. Thank you. Best regards, Yannick David On 28/10/09 19:05, yannick wrote: Hi, We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors expected it. We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested. For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience, explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga. The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content or the theme of the website much more easily. Please, visit the new website and provide us feedback before we go public. We want to provide the best experience possible. BETA Ekiga.org: http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/ Best regards, On behalf of the Ekiga team, Yannick ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- Me joindre en téléphonie IP / vidéoconférence ? sip:yann...@ekiga.net Logiciel de VoIP Ekiga : http://www.ekiga.org http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Which_programs_work_with_Ekiga_%3F ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite
Le jeudi 29 octobre 2009 à 09:31 +0530, Sohil Shah a écrit : Hi, The new website looks good. Compilation steps in Linux are well documented; but I think that the same lacks for Windows. Moreover from then problems which I've been facing since last few days, I also suggest that some page of FAQs, mail archives, etc. should also be clearly visible. Details of compilation on Redhat, Fedora are also insufficient. Screenshots should also show multi user conference. These are merely my suggestions; No intentions of being offensive :-)). The documentation part, which is now in the wiki, will be reworked as part of the wiki move to drupal. But it is a huge work I will do after the Ekiga.net move to Drupal. Unfortunately, none of the core team use Fedora/Red Hat, thus it is very hard for us to document it... If you want, you can document this part; ask me and i'll grant you access to the wiki. Best regards, Yannick ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite
Le mercredi 28 octobre 2009 à 15:26 -0700, Ed a écrit : I would rather see a listing of Ekiga's presence in various distros on the front page - rather than bottom of the roadmap page, also links to the debian/ubuntu/fedora etc repos. this would tell me that Ekiga was broadly available in my favorite ditros and it would also be nice if it lists the version in each repo. Even if it was just green light for current release, amber for stale release and red for not in repo. Snapshots are info for the developer community - which should have a separate home page - as part of Community maybe? Distro support is quite hard to achieve. I probably could code something to get automatically the version of Ekiga available in the main distros. But for an accurate view of available version outside the main repositories we will need a contributor for each distro. Please contact us if you want to give us relevant informations about a distro (any distro; I speak about main distro when I think doing the support myself but main is not much important, it just mean less work for me). Actually 3 members of the team deals with packaging our latest version for Debian, Ubuntu and windows. You probably do not use one of them; the green button on the main page automatically detect if you use one of them (you need javascript enabled in your browser) and present the visitor a direct link to the relevant information for debian or ubuntu or windows. For now it is hand written and I plan to have an administrator interface in Drupal for this feature. Snapshot is IMHO more important than you think. We need tests and testers. The more snapshots are tested, the best a release will be. I do not plan to move it deeper. Best regards, Yannick ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite
Le vendredi 30 octobre 2009 à 00:16 +0100, yannick a écrit : Le jeudi 29 octobre 2009 à 21:19 +0100, Michal Svoboda a écrit : yannick wrote 1581 bytes: The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content or the theme of the website much more easily. Everyone seems to move to Drupal now. Make sure you understand the security aspects of this mammoth. I did a blitz check and it seems /cron.php is world wide accessible. If some people on the mailing list are interested in WEB design and want to improve the website design, please do not hesitate to collaborate to a new skin or to improvements to the current skin so that we present the best community website possible. Damien Sandras http://www.ekiga.org http://www.beip.be attachment: ekigacomplexicon32.png___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite
Le vendredi 30 octobre 2009 à 08:52 +0100, Damien Sandras a écrit : Le vendredi 30 octobre 2009 à 00:16 +0100, yannick a écrit : Le jeudi 29 octobre 2009 à 21:19 +0100, Michal Svoboda a écrit : yannick wrote 1581 bytes: The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content or the theme of the website much more easily. Everyone seems to move to Drupal now. Make sure you understand the security aspects of this mammoth. I did a blitz check and it seems /cron.php is world wide accessible. If some people on the mailing list are interested in WEB design and want to improve the website design, please do not hesitate to collaborate to a new skin or to improvements to the current skin so that we present the best community website possible. Hi, The site was empty during the past night, it is now back up again (I moved it...) I'm using the zen theming engine for drupal. I find it helpful to start theming. Best regards, Yannick ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite
Le vendredi 30 octobre 2009 à 00:16 +0100, yannick a écrit : Le jeudi 29 octobre 2009 à 21:19 +0100, Michal Svoboda a écrit : yannick wrote 1581 bytes: The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content or the theme of the website much more easily. Everyone seems to move to Drupal now. Make sure you understand the security aspects of this mammoth. I did a blitz check and it seems /cron.php is world wide accessible. If some people on the mailing list are interested in WEB design and want to improve the website design, please do not hesitate to collaborate to a new skin or to improvements to the current skin so that we present the best community website possible. Damien Sandras http://www.ekiga.org http://www.beip.be attachment: ekigacomplexicon32.png___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite
Le vendredi 30 octobre 2009 à 08:52 +0100, Damien Sandras a écrit : Le vendredi 30 octobre 2009 à 00:16 +0100, yannick a écrit : Le jeudi 29 octobre 2009 à 21:19 +0100, Michal Svoboda a écrit : yannick wrote 1581 bytes: The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content or the theme of the website much more easily. Everyone seems to move to Drupal now. Make sure you understand the security aspects of this mammoth. I did a blitz check and it seems /cron.php is world wide accessible. If some people on the mailing list are interested in WEB design and want to improve the website design, please do not hesitate to collaborate to a new skin or to improvements to the current skin so that we present the best community website possible. Hi, The site was empty during the past night, it is now back up again (I moved it...) I'm using the zen theming engine for drupal. I find it helpful to start theming. Best regards, Yannick ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite
Yannick, Just visited the new site, nice job. Stu On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 23:01 +0100, yannick wrote: Le mercredi 28 octobre 2009 à 21:01 +0100, geo cherchetout a écrit : Le 28.10.2009 20:05, *yannick* a écrit fort à propos : Hi, We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors expected it. We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested. For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience, explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga. Hello Yannick, On the main page, in the window Get Ekiga! the link Download Ekiga is broken: http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/downloads Indeed. Thank you. It is fixed now. Best regards, Yannick ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite
Already a great improvement! A few small things though. 1 - Community page says You can subscribe on the right of this page - it would be better, perhaps, to say See below for mailing list information - There is no subscribe info on the right. 2 - When the site goes live can we have a 'back to Home Page' link on all the wiki pages linked from the new site : * Documentation * Downloads - Linux * - snapshots * - source Or maybe just in the wiki main menu? (I notice that there is no Fedora paragraph in the wiki/Linux install instructions.) Obviously a lot of work has gone into the new website - and it shows! A big pat on the back to everyone. David On 28/10/09 19:05, yannick wrote: Hi, We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors expected it. We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested. For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience, explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga. The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content or the theme of the website much more easily. Please, visit the new website and provide us feedback before we go public. We want to provide the best experience possible. BETA Ekiga.org: http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/ Best regards, On behalf of the Ekiga team, Yannick ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite
yannick wrote 1581 bytes: The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content or the theme of the website much more easily. Everyone seems to move to Drupal now. Make sure you understand the security aspects of this mammoth. I did a blitz check and it seems /cron.php is world wide accessible. Content-wise it seems to be nice. I appreciate the move. Regards, Michal Svoboda ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite
Le jeudi 29 octobre 2009 à 21:19 +0100, Michal Svoboda a écrit : yannick wrote 1581 bytes: The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content or the theme of the website much more easily. Everyone seems to move to Drupal now. Make sure you understand the security aspects of this mammoth. I did a blitz check and it seems /cron.php is world wide accessible. That's fixed. Thank you. Content-wise it seems to be nice. I appreciate the move. :) Best regards, Yannick Regards, Michal Svoboda ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- Me joindre en téléphonie IP / vidéoconférence ? sip:yann...@ekiga.net Logiciel de VoIP Ekiga : http://www.ekiga.org http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Which_programs_work_with_Ekiga_%3F ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
[Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite
Hi, We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors expected it. We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested. For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience, explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga. The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content or the theme of the website much more easily. Please, visit the new website and provide us feedback before we go public. We want to provide the best experience possible. BETA Ekiga.org: http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/ Best regards, On behalf of the Ekiga team, Yannick -- Me joindre en téléphonie IP / vidéoconférence ? sip:yann...@ekiga.net Logiciel de VoIP Ekiga : http://www.ekiga.org http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Which_programs_work_with_Ekiga_%3F ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite
Le 28.10.2009 20:05, *yannick* a écrit fort à propos : Hi, We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors expected it. We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested. For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience, explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga. Hello Yannick, On the main page, in the window Get Ekiga! the link Download Ekiga is broken: http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/downloads ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite
Le mercredi 28 octobre 2009 à 21:01 +0100, geo cherchetout a écrit : Le 28.10.2009 20:05, *yannick* a écrit fort à propos : Hi, We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors expected it. We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested. For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience, explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga. Hello Yannick, On the main page, in the window Get Ekiga! the link Download Ekiga is broken: http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/downloads Indeed. Thank you. It is fixed now. Best regards, Yannick ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:01 PM, geo cherchetout geo.cherchet...@laposte.net wrote: Le 28.10.2009 20:05, *yannick* a écrit fort à propos : Hi, We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors expected it. We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested. For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience, explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga. Hello Yannick, On the main page, in the window Get Ekiga! the link Download Ekiga is broken: http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/downloads New site looks clean and to the point - Just thinking that after the first or second latest release summary* it becomes less useful and you loose the sense that there is additional info at the bottom. I would rather see a listing of Ekiga's presence in various distros on the front page - rather than bottom of the roadmap page, also links to the debian/ubuntu/fedora etc repos. this would tell me that Ekiga was broadly available in my favorite ditros and it would also be nice if it lists the version in each repo. Even if it was just green light for current release, amber for stale release and red for not in repo. Snapshots are info for the developer community - which should have a separate home page - as part of Community maybe? I would also like to see, on the Ekiga.org page, a graph (RRDTool) and even RSS feed on the status of Ekiga.net - this should be the designated offsite goto notice location to get info on Ekiga.net when there may be problems. A graph of utilization would also go a long way in getting some well deserved credit for Ekiga.net. * a listing of latest minor revision changes followed by a major revision summary works best IMHO - you could even add a coming milestones section - more of a coming features set than the developer focus that the raodmap page seams to have. minor revisions changes summary (3.2.6 specifics diff back to 3.0) major revision achievement summary (3.0) next major revision objectives (4.0) distro status listing links ekiga.net graph RSS ekiga.net news much thx for Ekiga - great stuff! download page made me laugh - Ponies! ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] BETA test for a new Ekiga.org WebSite
Hi, The new website looks good. Compilation steps in Linux are well documented; but I think that the same lacks for Windows. Moreover from then problems which I've been facing since last few days, I also suggest that some page of FAQs, mail archives, etc. should also be clearly visible. Details of compilation on Redhat, Fedora are also insufficient. Screenshots should also show multi user conference. These are merely my suggestions; No intentions of being offensive :-)). -- Thanks Regards, Sohil Shah On 10/29/2009 12:35 AM, yannick wrote: Hi, We decided to improve our Website for Ekiga. It was hard to manage/update for the Ekiga team and it was not as clear as our visitors expected it. We now reached the point were our new website can be more widely tested. For the visitor, we focused on improving the download experience, explain what Ekiga is more friendly for non-technophiles and added a Roadmap for those asking about the future of Ekiga. The new infrastructure behind the website, which is based on the well know open source Drupal framework, will allow us to update the content or the theme of the website much more easily. Please, visit the new website and provide us feedback before we go public. We want to provide the best experience possible. BETA Ekiga.org: http://ekiga.net/yannick/drupal-6.14/ Best regards, On behalf of the Ekiga team, Yannick -- _ Disclaimer: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the addressee and may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and please delete it from your computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender unless otherwise stated.Company has taken enough precautions to prevent the spread of viruses. However the company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. _ ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list