Re: [Ekiga-list] Newbie ekiga Linux problems

2008-06-02 Thread Damien Sandras
Le dimanche 01 juin 2008 à 14:01 -0400, Mark T.B. Carroll a écrit :

[...]

 Mind you, I'm about to change ISP, and I could compile SIP and H.323
 support into my NAT box - might that fix the error I saw? I'm just kind
 of surprised from the error message that ekiga gave that it didn't seem
 to be able to distinguish between errors caused by ports already being
 taken on my local machine so that it couldn't bind to them, and errors
 caused by needing to forward ports on a separate router!

The error message means that another application is already using the
port Ekiga is trying to open (probably UDP 5060 for SIP or TCP 1720 for
H.323 or both). 

Another possibility would be that you have no network interface ready
when Ekiga starts.
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Newbie ekiga Linux problems

2008-06-02 Thread Mark T.B. Carroll
Damien Sandras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The error message means that another application is already using the
 port Ekiga is trying to open (probably UDP 5060 for SIP or TCP 1720 for
 H.323 or both). 

Unfortunately from my original message you can see that this is not so.

 Another possibility would be that you have no network interface ready
 when Ekiga starts.

This is also not so - I was online just fine and its config had the
correct interface selected.

Mark
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Newbie ekiga Linux problems

2008-06-02 Thread Damien Sandras
Le lundi 02 juin 2008 à 08:11 -0400, Mark T.B. Carroll a écrit :
 Damien Sandras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  The error message means that another application is already using the
  port Ekiga is trying to open (probably UDP 5060 for SIP or TCP 1720 for
  H.323 or both). 
 
 Unfortunately from my original message you can see that this is not so.
 
  Another possibility would be that you have no network interface ready
  when Ekiga starts.
 
 This is also not so - I was online just fine and its config had the
 correct interface selected.

Can you provide a -d 4 output ?

Or perhaps you are running the gtkonly version ? Some distributions are
shipping a gtkonly version full of bugs, I would recommend against using
it.
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Newbie ekiga Linux problems

2008-06-02 Thread Mark T.B. Carroll
Damien Sandras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Can you provide a -d 4 output ?

I shall arrange one.

 Or perhaps you are running the gtkonly version ? Some distributions are
 shipping a gtkonly version full of bugs, I would recommend against using
 it.

Oh, really? Gosh! I am indeed running a gtkonly one to avoid having to
be assimilated by the gnomular stuff. I should try with a different
version then. Thanks for the clue. (-: (I'm using Debian. I assume this
is another of the not-actually-very-maintained packages. ): )

Mark
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Newbie ekiga Linux problems

2008-06-02 Thread Damien Sandras
Le lundi 02 juin 2008 à 09:04 -0400, Mark T.B. Carroll a écrit :
 Damien Sandras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Can you provide a -d 4 output ?
 
 I shall arrange one.
 
  Or perhaps you are running the gtkonly version ? Some distributions are
  shipping a gtkonly version full of bugs, I would recommend against using
  it.
 
 Oh, really? Gosh! I am indeed running a gtkonly one to avoid having to
 be assimilated by the gnomular stuff. I should try with a different
 version then. Thanks for the clue. (-: (I'm using Debian. I assume this
 is another of the not-actually-very-maintained packages. ): )

Indeed...
It is one of the problems with that package ;-)
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Newbie ekiga Linux problems

2008-06-01 Thread Oisin Feeley
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Mark T.B. Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Perhaps I'm missing some documentation - if so, just point me toward
 what I'm meant to be looking at that answers these.

 I'm using Ekiga 2.0.11 under 64-bit Linux 2.6.24.

 When I start ekiga, it tells me I won't be able to receive incoming
 calls. However, it just says 'Error while starting the listener ...' and
 'check no other program is running on the port used ...' without saying
 anything about what the error was or what port it's talking about! Not
 that I'm aware of any reason why anything else would be listening on
 such ports:


Have you tried:
1. Making sure that Ekiga is trying to use the correct network interface:
Edit - Preferences - Protocols - Network Settings - Network Interface:
ListenOn
2. That your firewall is set up correctly.  The wiki
http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_behind_a_NAT_router has a wealth of
information on the topic (although the first-time setup GUI should have
given you information about it you can run it again by
Edit - Configuration Druid

3. You can get more information by running ekiga from the command line with
the highest debugging level ekiga -d 4

Hope some of that helps.  The wiki and the archives of this mailing list are
probably the most helpful thing though.

Best wishes,
Oisin
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Newbie ekiga Linux problems

2008-06-01 Thread Mark T.B. Carroll
Oisin Feeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Mark T.B. Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
(snip)
 When I start ekiga, it tells me I won't be able to receive incoming
 calls. However, it just says 'Error while starting the listener ...' and
 'check no other program is running on the port used ...' without saying
 anything about what the error was or what port it's talking about! Not
 that I'm aware of any reason why anything else would be listening on
 such ports:

 Have you tried:
 1. Making sure that Ekiga is trying to use the correct network interface:
 Edit - Preferences - Protocols - Network Settings - Network Interface:
 ListenOn

Good idea. It is using the correct interface.

 2. That your firewall is set up correctly.  The wiki
 http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_behind_a_NAT_router has a wealth of
 information on the topic (although the first-time setup GUI should have
 given you information about it you can run it again by
 Edit - Configuration Druid

I have it set to use STUN with stun.ekiga.net - might that not suffice?
The NAT test thing said Port Restricted NAT.

Mind you, I'm about to change ISP, and I could compile SIP and H.323
support into my NAT box - might that fix the error I saw? I'm just kind
of surprised from the error message that ekiga gave that it didn't seem
to be able to distinguish between errors caused by ports already being
taken on my local machine so that it couldn't bind to them, and errors
caused by needing to forward ports on a separate router!

(And, of course, it still doesn't see my camera, although previous
versions of things did, and mplayer still does. ): )

 3. You can get more information by running ekiga from the command line with
 the highest debugging level ekiga -d 4

Aha, that might tell me what I've been complaining about missing,
thanks. (-:

Mark
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Newbie ekiga Linux problems

2008-06-01 Thread ael
Mark T.B. Carroll wrote:

 2. That your firewall is set up correctly.  The wiki
 http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_behind_a_NAT_router has a wealth of
 information on the topic (although the first-time setup GUI should have
 given you information about it you can run it again by
 Edit - Configuration Druid
 
 I have it set to use STUN with stun.ekiga.net - might that not suffice?

No. Read the wiki.

 The NAT test thing said Port Restricted NAT.

Possibly the problem...

 Mind you, I'm about to change ISP, and I could compile SIP and H.323
 support into my NAT box 

If you are implementing your own NAT then it should be easy to fix.

ael
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Newbie ekiga Linux problems

2008-06-01 Thread Oisin Feeley


On 6/1/08, Mark T.B. Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oisin Feeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Mark T.B. Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
[snip]
 2. That your firewall is set up correctly.  The wiki
 http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Ekiga_behind_a_NAT_router has a wealth of
 information on the topic (although the first-time setup GUI should have
 given you information about it you can run it again by
 Edit - Configuration Druid

 I have it set to use STUN with stun.ekiga.net - might that not suffice?
 The NAT test thing said Port Restricted NAT.

That should be fine.  The other possible culprit then is that you have a 
previous instance of ekiga running which hasn't been killed properly.  Looking 
at your original email again I see that I missed this line:

When I quit ekiga, the window closes but it just hangs and doesn't
 terminate.

So, it's quite possible that you have a previous instance of ekiga hanging 
around.  You can check for sure with 

netstat -p -l | grep ekiga

and follow it up with a killall ekiga or just kill the PID mentioned in the 
PID/ekiga column output from the above.

Hope that helps, I'm out of easy ideas after that.

Best wishes,
Oisin Feeley
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