Re: [Elecraft] elfwa revisited
The K2USA rhombic still exists. My local ham club, Garden State Amateur Radio Assoc. has it's monthly meetings at the MARS station at Ft. Monmouth, and we ocassionally operate the station. I've hooked my K2 to the rhombic and it really turns the mojo loose. Lately the rhombic is "down" due to some broken wires but in the near future GSARA plans to effect repairs to it and some other K2USA antennas as well. We hope to have K2USA up and running for field day as a class F (EOC) station. Elsewhere on the Ft. Monmouth base, GSARA is planning to set up a battery powered QRP station using the club call W2GSA, and my K2 is "drafted" for the effort. Rich K2CPE K2 #1102 -- Original message -- > > In a message dated 27/03/05 18:21:39 GMT Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > But the most impressive and very well known antenna at K2USA was a rhombic, > one of the few amateur band rhombics in existence. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for March 27-28th, 2005
Good evening and Happy Easter. 20 meters was noisy this evening. 40 meters was much easier to work! Curious ;) (as Mr. Spock used to say) Surprisingly we had a few new folks on 20 meters. That may have been because we broke in a new NCS :) Mr. Craigie, with a very big signal, called the net for a while to earn his NCS wings. I know he has run VHF traffic nets but they are not nearly as formal as the Elecraft CW Net ;) Way to go Carter! Thanks also go out to Mr. Hammond. Tom has been a fixture on ECN since July 27th, 2003. 81 check ins and still going strong. He has been very supportive as NCS while offering suggestions to make the net run a bit more smoothly. Take care Tom! On 14050 kHz at 2355z: N3AO - Carter - PA - K2 - 678 Good to hear you have time to play again :) K2HYD - Ray - VA - KX1 - 608 QNI #25 with that little rig! N0SS - Tom - MO - K2 - oo8QNI #80!!! Wow, Tom thanks! KA4MKF - Ned - VA - not an Elecrafter yet. VE1RGB - Gary - NS - K2 - 2519 N5LF - Alan - VA - K1 - ?? K6DGW - Fred - CA - K2 - 4398 W0QQS - Bruce - MN - K2 - 3646 W6QND - broken call. QRZ?? On 7045 kHz at 0300z: N0SS - Tom - MO - K2 - oo8 WA7BOC - Roger - WA - K2 - 755 VE3XL - Ric - ON - K1 - 968 W0CZ - Ken - ND - K2 - 1031 N7NLU - Karl - OR - K2 - 4227 Who thinks he needs a KX1 to round out the set :) AK2B - Tom - NY - K2 - 4482 N5LF - Alan - VA - K1 - ?? KO0K - Ben - OH - K2 - 3867 ??I heard you not at all. Were you running the K1 instead? K1EV - Bill - CT - K2 - 2152 W2LJ - Larry - NJ - K2? - ?? N2FQ/6 - Fernando - CA - K2 - 2330 WD7Y - Ed - NV - K2 - 865 ND0V - Greg - CO - K2 - 4411 W0NTA - Dick - CO - K2 - 3900 (old faithful :) Thank you for joining us this evening. I know many of you were jumping on for a few minutes to say Hi and then going back to your families. Thank you for taking the time. I appreciate it. Welcome or welcome back to each of you. If there are any corrections to be made or fills to be added please do not hesitate to send them to me. I'll post the errata and update my database. Until later 73, Kevin. KD5ONS (Net Control Operator 5th Class) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 3/27/2005 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 power limitation
Don Thanks for your help. Will re-install T4 and see how K2 works. 73 de aki, ja1nlx - Original Message - From: "W3FPR - Don Wilhelm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "a.yoshida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 1:13 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K2 power limitation > Aki, > > If you still have T4 reversed, yes, it would account for the problem. > If you now have T4 correct and still have low power, look carefully at the > Low Pass filters. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > > -Original Message- > > Finished building K2 but found a problem. > > > > TX power is always under 5W on ALL bands. > > > > I found my wrong install of T4 (1-2 and 3-4 are > > > > reversed !) > > > > Does this make the problem ??? > > > > 73 de aki, ja1nlx > > > > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K2 power limitation
Aki, If you still have T4 reversed, yes, it would account for the problem. If you now have T4 correct and still have low power, look carefully at the Low Pass filters. 73, Don W3FPR > -Original Message- > Finished building K2 but found a problem. > > TX power is always under 5W on ALL bands. > > I found my wrong install of T4 (1-2 and 3-4 are > > reversed !) > > Does this make the problem ??? > > 73 de aki, ja1nlx > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K2: AGC Voltage OK?
Michael, You probably read that statement coming from me since I have posted it frequently. Even on a 'quiet' 10 meter band there is the liklyhood that there is still some atmospheric noise. Try doing it with the antenna disconnected (so all the noise is actual receiver internal noise). I believe you will find the proper setting a bit higher than you have right now. Yes, I have found some variability from K2 to K2 (which I attribute to internal gain variability), and also variability depending on the bandwidth. I normally use a CW filter set for a bandwidth of 0.70 for this adjustment and it works well for me - and usually produces a AGC Threshold pot setting of close to 3.7 volts (+/- 0.05 volts). 73, Don W3FPR > -Original Message- > > I've read that the correct AGC voltage for _most_ K2s falls into the > 3.65v to 3.8v range. When I adjust my AGC voltage such that I hear no > difference with AGC off and AGC on on a quiet 10m band, I find that my > AGC voltage is down around 3.5v. Other than this, my radio appears to > work fine. My control board's 8v regulator is putting out 7.92v. Does > this AGC voltage seem like a problem or can I rack this up to > variability? > > Thanks, Michael N9BDF > > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2 power limitation
If T4 1-2 and 3-4 were symmetrical I would think it would be okay. However, they are not symmetrical as 1-2 has 2 turns and 3-4 has 3 turns. Sounds like you should unsolder it and try installing it the other way. It may be easiest to cut the bare wires (5-6 and 7-8) before unsoldering the green and white wires. You likely have enough wire leftover to make 5-6 and 7-8 again, but not 1-2 and 3-4 (I think I had enough to make 1-2 again if neccessary but definately not 3-4). Correct installation of T4 should improve your output power. If you wound T4 as a 2:2 ratio for better efficiency at 5W then it would likely be okay (note on the schematic for T4), but since you are complaining about not enough output power you should unsolder and install correctly, then play with alternatives later after you are satisfied with performance. Mark, NK8Q K2 4786 a.yoshida wrote: >Hi > >Finished building K2 but found a problem. > >TX power is always under 5W on ALL bands. > >I found my wrong install of T4 (1-2 and 3-4 are > >reversed !) > >Does this make the problem ??? > >73 de aki, ja1nlx > >___ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 power limitation
Hi Finished building K2 but found a problem. TX power is always under 5W on ALL bands. I found my wrong install of T4 (1-2 and 3-4 are reversed !) Does this make the problem ??? 73 de aki, ja1nlx ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2: AGC Voltage OK?
I've read that the correct AGC voltage for _most_ K2s falls into the 3.65v to 3.8v range. When I adjust my AGC voltage such that I hear no difference with AGC off and AGC on on a quiet 10m band, I find that my AGC voltage is down around 3.5v. Other than this, my radio appears to work fine. My control board's 8v regulator is putting out 7.92v. Does this AGC voltage seem like a problem or can I rack this up to variability? Thanks, Michael N9BDF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] elfwa revisited
Very nice. Thanks for the URL, Bob. I haven't been back to K2USA since 1985. I understand that since then the rhombic has been let go to seed. The poles are overgrown with vines and I believe some of the wires are broken. What a shame. It was a highlight of my ham life to use that thing. I didn't need to use the 30L1 with it, but, I'm sorry, when you got it you flaunt it. hi. Eric KE6US _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 4:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] elfwa revisited In a message dated 27/03/05 18:21:39 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But the most impressive and very well known antenna at K2USA was a rhombic, one of the few amateur band rhombics in existence. - 1981 to 1985 I lived in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia and was a member of the HZ1AB club. We had a 20m rhombic pointed right back at K2USA that was shared with the US military. The performance of this was phenomenal, far better than the KLM KT34 that was up on the tower. I used to switch of the linear amp when operating with the rhombic and use the Collins KWM2 or the TS-430 we had at the time barefoot, otherwise we attracted far too many callers making copy difficult. I was moved across the country in 1985 to a new job on the Red Sea coast at Yanbu, over 1000km away and lost touch with the club. Last I heard in September 2004 was that the HZ1AB licence has now been reassigned to a Saudi national and the club station closed down. There are pictures of the HZ1AB rhombic on the HZ1AB website when the station was moved from the old Dhahran airport into Dhahran airbase: www.qsl.net/hz1ab/ The old rhombic was on 40 ft wooden power poles across the car park in front of the old Dhahran airport domestic terminal entrance. Looks something like 110ft wooden poles were used at the new location in the airbase. Bob, G3VVT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] The Linus Special
In a message dated 3/27/2005 1:53:27 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My prototype T1 has v 1.07. I think that was the last revision before shipments begun. What in the operating manual makes you suspect something different? Only that the owner's manual refers to V 1.06 when discussing the Info Report on page 7. I assumed that perhaps they would use the latest firmware version in the instructions, but that may be a stretch! Anyway, no big deal--just speculation on my part. Very nice job on the manual Ron. It certainly contained lots of very appropriate warnings where errors could commonly occur. It was also obvious that someone very carefully documented potential problems in the building process, like not soldering certain leads before an adjoining lead was also ready to be soldered. I particularly liked the thrice stated "get the right LED lead in the right hole" warning! You must have had me in mind when you did that! Anyway, it's a very thorough and well thought out construction guide indeed. Thanks for making it a heck of a lot easier for us klutzes! Dave W7AQK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] elfwa revisited
In a message dated 27/03/05 18:21:39 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But the most impressive and very well known antenna at K2USA was a rhombic, one of the few amateur band rhombics in existence. - 1981 to 1985 I lived in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia and was a member of the HZ1AB club. We had a 20m rhombic pointed right back at K2USA that was shared with the US military. The performance of this was phenomenal, far better than the KLM KT34 that was up on the tower. I used to switch of the linear amp when operating with the rhombic and use the Collins KWM2 or the TS-430 we had at the time barefoot, otherwise we attracted far too many callers making copy difficult. I was moved across the country in 1985 to a new job on the Red Sea coast at Yanbu, over 1000km away and lost touch with the club. Last I heard in September 2004 was that the HZ1AB licence has now been reassigned to a Saudi national and the club station closed down. There are pictures of the HZ1AB rhombic on the HZ1AB website when the station was moved from the old Dhahran airport into Dhahran airbase: www.qsl.net/hz1ab/ The old rhombic was on 40 ft wooden power poles across the car park in front of the old Dhahran airport domestic terminal entrance. Looks something like 110ft wooden poles were used at the new location in the airbase. Bob, G3VVT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Pulpit Rock Polar Bears
Thanks, Steve. You were one of my very few contacts using the K2. I was considering using the FT-100 mobile rig which is permanently mounted as well, but the only thing I did with it was use it to tune the ATAS120 antenna I was using. Speaking of which , I think that was the reason for such few contacts. I know I was scheduled to be on 40m phone, but the QRM from SW Broadcast was so terrible. I heard Carter, N3AO briefly when he was told where I was trying to operate, but he couldn't hear me, even when I turned it up to 50W (the most I like to run with the engine turned off). It was fun trying to use the K2 with the mobile antenna, but next time I'll definitely have a more efficient portable antenna for 40/20m (at least). Planning to put a KAT2 in the K2 as well, so maybe we can do even more! The only other stations I worked were K3WW (groundwave to Perkasie, PA) and copied the info from WA5TCZ before QSB dropped the signal from S6 to S0 just as he turned it over to me and then he couldn't hear me (he was complaining that I was light copy anyway). I also did work Dave in Nazereth, PA, N3LWY, on 2m FM on his repeater thanks to Matt, KB3JJV who was there with his HT. Dave also spent lots of time with Matt and introducing him to Echolink, so I think Matt had a good time up there. Thanks alot, Dave! I also worked Dave, KX3DX on 75m phone on groundwave at the station of K3YTR, Ed, who was lounging in his half-dome tent with a heater keeping him comfortable. In any case, even though I had fewer QSOs this month with the Polar Bear event, I did have a great time. The WX was better than they forecast & it was nice meeting some new hams who came up for the event as well. I just got home after spending the weekend at my XYL's mother's house (not for Easter, but to fix it up so she can live there and get her out of our house, but we love her so). I found the new L12 & replacement pot for the K2 and I'll be starting the Noise Blanker soon (after I replace the other parts). Probably will have the SSB module installed by the end of this week as well. 72/73, Mark, NK8Q Polar Bear #4 Stephen Brandt wrote: To Whom This May Concern, I just worked Mark, NK8Q, on Pulpit Rock on 14.061 at 2115Z. He is about 559 here in Portland, Oregon. I am runing a Yaesu FT 1000MP throttled back to 5W output. Good luck, Good hunting. 73, Steve N7VS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] lead forming tool
Those lead-forming tools are available all over the place, Radio Shack used to have them and may still at radioshack.com, and they're even available in different sizes for different sizes of components, that tool's an old standard in the 'tronics industry. 73 de ns6y On Mar 27, 2005, at 9:30 AM, Robert Conley wrote: I just checked my Jameco Catalog. There it was on page #211. a 1/4 & 1/2 watt Lead Forming Tool Jameco part # 106884cc on sale $2.79. Also found the Steel Step Drill bits page #207 part #229657cc & 172401cc 72/71 de "rc" kc5wa ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] The Linus Special
Dave, W7AQK, wrote: Notwithstanding my dog Linus's efforts to the contrary (trying to eat my parts), the T1 is up and running. Still running tests though, but it tunes fine. That's good...the "dog ate my tuner" excuse is way overused. :-) 73 de Maggie K3XS -- -/___. _)Margaret Stephanie Leber CCP, SCJP/"The art of progress / /(, /| /| http://voicenet.com/~maggie SCWCD/ is to preserve order/ ---/ / | / | _ _ _` _ AOPA 925383/ amid change and to / --/ ) / |/ |_(_(_(_/_(_/__(__(/_ K3XS / preserve change amid/ -/ (_/ '.-/ .-/ARRL 39280 /order."-A.N.Whitehead/ /(_/_(_/___AMSAT 32844_/<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 & KAT1
No to "slight" Elecraft! There IS a very nice amplifier kit available that works great with the K1! Will do 35-40 watts out for 2-2.5 watts of drive. Uses a pair of power FETs. Has filters for all bands from 160-10 meters. Checkout "HFPacker" search on Google and you will get the link to the website. Nothing is drilled or tapped in the heatsink or chassis! It is truly a "kit" of aprts. PC boards very nice! 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 12:47 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K1-4 & KAT1 | Hello, Fellow Elecrafters: | | I've completed and installed a KAT1 ATU in my K1-4, s/n 1453. I'm surprised | and pleased that in addition to effectively tuning the antenna & coax for | lowest SWR, the ATU acts as a "preselector" and improves the gain of the receiver | slightly. All 4 band seem just a bit "brighter" after tuning with the KAT1. | | I've read a discussion recently about moving a jumper on P3 on the RF board | to activate the KAT1. My instructions don't mention this. I'm wondering if | I'm missing something. My RF board is Rev. E, and my KAT1 manual is Rev. C | (Jan. 18, 2001). I did leave one end of resistor R3 unsoldered, as instructed in | the KAT1 manual. | | I observed a few minor "discrepancies" in the KAT1 manual that are not | covered in the errata. For example, the manual says to install a 3-pin and a 10-pin | female connector on the K1 filter board. However, these parts were already | installed when I built the K1. Perhaps the extra connectors were supplied in | case you had an additional (older?) filter board? It would be helpful if the | errata mentioned this. | | Now I'm looking forward to my next Elecraft project - "booties" for my K1. | I'd like to see an Elecraft KPA-1, an external amplifier for the K1, for fixed | station use. It would have at least 10 dB gain, with an in/out switch and a | row of leds to indicate peak power. I know this will be heresy to some | Elecrafters, but the extra oomph would help working DX pileups! Are you listening | Wayne? | | 73, Jim K5HO | ___ | Elecraft mailing list | Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net | You must be a subscriber to post to the list. | Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): | http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft | | Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm | Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com | | ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Kevin, I will be operating portable from DE for the ARCI Spring QSO Party. I recently finished building my K2 and will be using it for the contest. I am calling it my DEpedition. I will probably post an operating schedule in the next week or so but will take special requests if asked :) I will be going down on Friday, 4/8. I should be set up by 6pm or thereabouts. I will be signing as NJ2OM/3. 73 and hope to work you, Mike From: Kevin Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2005/03/26 Sat PM 11:15:06 EST To: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement Good Evening, My fingers are itching from lack of CW work. I have been banging away at a calculator, a spreadsheet, writing simulation software, and realizing the results with components and solder. The results worked. Wow, from idea to reality is quite interesting. My new radio, tuner, and bridge all in one box. But I am still learning. Now to get someone from Delaware or South Dakota to check in to the Elecraft Net. I don't believe folks use amateur radios in Delaware. Prove me wrong tomorrow evening ;) It sounds like 40 meters is open but there are a lot of voice ops working the band. By tomorrow evening they should be done. 20 meters was working earlier as I was testing my new tuner and radio. I think we may have good propagation for all those folks who are not actively feeding at net time. But there are two nets so you can try one, or the other, or both if that is your wont. Please join us : Monday z (Sunday 4pm PST) 14050 kHz Monday 0300z (Sunday 7pm PST) 7045 kHz Visit our web site: http://ecn.visionseer.com/ for net details. Thank you Dan. Happy Easter, Kevin. KD5ONS Next project: current balun for my OCF dipole. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.3 - Release Date: 3/25/2005 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] The Linus Special
Dave, W7AQK, wrote: Notwithstanding my dog Linus's efforts to the contrary (trying to eat my parts), the T1 is up and running. Still running tests though, but it tunes fine. My firmware is v 1.07--looks like there has been an update since the manual was prepared. The only construction question I have is why we are instructed to wait until the board is full of parts before we do the parts on the bottom side of the board. Seems like it would have been easier to mount these first, still solder them from the bottom side, but then clip the leads flush on the top side. But I'm sure there's a good reason for doing it otherwise. - Congratulations, Dave! My prototype T1 has v 1.07. I think that was the last revision before shipments begun. What in the operating manual makes you suspect something different? Wayne wrote the owner's manual and I confess I haven't studied every statement in it for accuracy. Maybe a 1.07 change got missed that should be fixed. Thanks for the input on the assembly manual. That was my responsibility. I, too, prefer to mount parts while I can easily flush-cut the leads on the opposite side, but doing so in the T1 would likely cause interference with installing the relays. Both bottom-mounted caps end up right against the relay pins on the underside of the board after installation. We thought it would be easier to install the relays and to make sure they were all straight and properly seated against the board and all the pins were soldered before other parts are added. Since the bottom-mounted parts are also soldered on the bottom side, it didn't seem like it would be difficult to install them after the relays were in place. Putting them in last avoided any chance of breaking the capacitor leads by bending them back and forth to allow access to solder and inspect the relay pins. Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] The Linus Special
Hi All, Notwithstanding my dog Linus's efforts to the contrary (trying to eat my parts), the T1 is up and running. Still running tests though, but it tunes fine. My firmware is v 1.07--looks like there has been an update since the manual was prepared. The only construction question I have is why we are instructed to wait until the board is full of parts before we do the parts on the bottom side of the board. Seems like it would have been easier to mount these first, still solder them from the bottom side, but then clip the leads flush on the top side. But I'm sure there's a good reason for doing it otherwise. The T1 is going to be a very handy piece of gear. Thanks to Wayne and Eric for another winner. Happy Easter to all who celebrate the day. Dave W7AQK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] XG1... other frequencies possible?
That's fine for K2 builders, but it wasn't much help with a K1 since they don't tune that high on 20 and 15 with the optional 80 kc band spread. I stuck a 14.060 mc crystal I had left over from converting a Rock-Mite 20 to 15m and it worked fine, though I didn't measure the output to see how much it deviated from the 50 uV 40m output. It's bound to be different. I used a trick I first learned from Chuck, W5USJ, of using two Augat machined socket pins taken from an IC socket. Pull out the crystal, solder two of these pins in and plug in the crystal. Now you can stick anything you have into it. I got the pins from a new CPU socket for some early Pentium chip that I bought at a surplus store for 50 cents. With a firm grip on the bottom of a pin with needlenose pliers, you can just push the pins out the top very easily. It's going to be tougher if the socket is used...you might have to crush the base with side cutters...so try to get a new one. I just remove what I am going to use at the time. The socket base makes a safe storage place for the tiny pins between projects. They are great any place you want to experiment with part values and don't want to keep solder-stressing the board which is what Chuck originally used them for. Eric KE6US -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Fegan VE3QF Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:00 AM To: 'Joe Daring'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] XG1... other frequencies possible? Hi Joe, The XG1 has quite strong output on its harmonics, 14.080, 21.120 and 28.160MHz. Information is on page 3 of the manual. The second harmonic on 14.080 is approximately 7dB down on the fundamental. 73 Tony Fegan VE3QF -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Daring Sent: March 27, 2005 2:17 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] XG1... other frequencies possible? Hello' Elecraft community... I have just received my XG1 Kit... I'm wondering if I have any chance to use a different XTAL to make it work somewhere on 14.XXX MHz... What should I do for this? Any hint *VERY* appreciated! Happy Easter everybody!!! /3 de Joe, IW7ECJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K1-4 & KAT1
Hello, Fellow Elecrafters: I've completed and installed a KAT1 ATU in my K1-4, s/n 1453. I'm surprised and pleased that in addition to effectively tuning the antenna & coax for lowest SWR, the ATU acts as a "preselector" and improves the gain of the receiver slightly. All 4 band seem just a bit "brighter" after tuning with the KAT1. I've read a discussion recently about moving a jumper on P3 on the RF board to activate the KAT1. My instructions don't mention this. I'm wondering if I'm missing something. My RF board is Rev. E, and my KAT1 manual is Rev. C (Jan. 18, 2001). I did leave one end of resistor R3 unsoldered, as instructed in the KAT1 manual. I observed a few minor "discrepancies" in the KAT1 manual that are not covered in the errata. For example, the manual says to install a 3-pin and a 10-pin female connector on the K1 filter board. However, these parts were already installed when I built the K1. Perhaps the extra connectors were supplied in case you had an additional (older?) filter board? It would be helpful if the errata mentioned this. Now I'm looking forward to my next Elecraft project - "booties" for my K1. I'd like to see an Elecraft KPA-1, an external amplifier for the K1, for fixed station use. It would have at least 10 dB gain, with an in/out switch and a row of leds to indicate peak power. I know this will be heresy to some Elecrafters, but the extra oomph would help working DX pileups! Are you listening Wayne? 73, Jim K5HO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] XG1... other frequencies possible?
Hi Joe, The XG1 has quite strong output on its harmonics, 14.080, 21.120 and 28.160MHz. Information is on page 3 of the manual. The second harmonic on 14.080 is approximately 7dB down on the fundamental. 73 Tony Fegan VE3QF -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Daring Sent: March 27, 2005 2:17 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] XG1... other frequencies possible? Hello' Elecraft community... I have just received my XG1 Kit... I'm wondering if I have any chance to use a different XTAL to make it work somewhere on 14.XXX MHz... What should I do for this? Any hint *VERY* appreciated! Happy Easter everybody!!! /3 de Joe, IW7ECJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K2 RF board - components on bottom?
Jim, HMC Electronics carries these. I ordered two of them, one for 1/8 watt and one for 1/4 watt, a few weeks back. They are just as you described. 2 or 3 bucks apiece. Stan Rife W5EWA Houston, TX K2 S/N 4216 -Original Message- On Behalf Of Jim Harris Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 11:05 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K2 RF board - components on bottom? This may be too late to help you much. But, I'll give it a spin. This might be more useful to future builders. Many years ago in manufacturing we used a small plastic device that was about eight inches long and about a quarter inch high and tapered from one end at about a quarter inch to about an inch on the other end. It had a cutout down the middle that the components were placed into. Along the raised plastic parts on either side of the cutout were indentations for the componet leads. There were something like 25-30 different positions along the tool depending on the spacing needed for the leads on the pc board. Narrow spacings obviously were at the narrow end and wider at the opposite end. After selecting the right spacing and placing the component in the tool a thumb was placed over the component and thumb and first finger of the other hand was used to gentle bend the leads down to 90 degrees. If needed, then the leads could be further formed to fit special situations usually without stressing the lead to body bond. We got the tool from places like Jameco, Digi-key etc. don't know if anyone carries them anymore. While building my K2 I wished numerous times I had one of those little gizmo's. Sure would have made life simplier. Enjoy your new toy and have a great day. Jim, AB0UK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] lead forming tool
I just checked my Jameco Catalog. There it was on page #211. a 1/4 & 1/2 watt Lead Forming Tool Jameco part # 106884cc on sale $2.79. Also found the Steel Step Drill bits page #207 part #229657cc & 172401cc 72/71 de "rc" kc5wa ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] elfwa revisited
My last year in the Army (1965-1965) was as one of three operators at K2USA at Fort Monmouth, NJ. We had monobanders (Telex) on 90' poles for 20-2m and 6 professional studios full of Collins and Hallicrafters equipment to feed them. But the most impressive and very well known antenna at K2USA was a rhombic, one of the few amateur band rhombics in existence. It was also on 90' telephone poles. It terminated on Europe, but could be switched to radiate the other direction. Some late nights I would tune around 20 when it was dead. Sometimes I would hear two VK's working each other on ground wave and thinking the band was closed. Not for that rhombic, an S-Line and a 30L1. Tough duty, but a soldier goes where he's needed. Eric KE6US -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of W3FPR - Don Wilhelm Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 4:56 AM To: Robert Conley; [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Subject: RE: [Elecraft] elfwa revisited RC, Yes - double the length and try it, a 48-56 ft random wire with a 32 ft radial should load fine on 80 and up. If you find it out of the range of the KAT1 or KXT1 tuner, just extend is a few feet at a time until you discover a length that works for you. Thia is a 'random wire' antenna, it is not an EFLWA which is a more specific term for antennas that are 1 wavelength or more at the lowest frequency. The radiation pattern from an End Fed Long Wire Antenna is quite specific and has lobes at specific and predictable angles from the wire (making it a directional antenna) - the exact angle depends on the number of half wavelengths of the wire. It is this directionality that is the desirable quality of the EFLWA, quite apart from the means of feeding it. A really long long wire antenna can rival a beam in its favored direction, and I'm certain you have heard rave reports about the performance of large rhombics which are close cousins to the long wire antenna. There is a whole chapter in the ARRL Antenna book devoted to these Traveling Wave antennas - they work great if you have the space. 73, Don W3FPR > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Conley > Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 11:47 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List > Subject: [Elecraft] elfwa revisited > > > Please me revisit the EFLWA for a moment. In the KXAT1 manual page 9 > shows a random length wire in a tree. For 40/30/20 a wire length of > 24-28' is recommended. Ground system use one radial cut to at least > 1/8 wave length on lowest band used (16' on 40m) page 10 shows a > Pomona model 1296 double binding post. Since I suffered an attack of > senility when I ordered my K1-2 (I ordered it with 80m and 40m) and a > KAT1. I wish to utilize a random length wire for it Should it be > double the KXAT1's recommendations > (48-56') with a ground system of 1/8 wavelength on the lowest band (32' > on 80m) > double that of 40/30/20m. > tnx es 72/71 > de "rc"kc5wa > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 RF board - components on bottom?
This may be too late to help you much. But, I'll give it a spin. This might be more useful to future builders. Many years ago in manufacturing we used a small plastic device that was about eight inches long and about a quarter inch high and tapered from one end at about a quarter inch to about an inch on the other end. It had a cutout down the middle that the components were placed into. Along the raised plastic parts on either side of the cutout were indentations for the componet leads. There were something like 25-30 different positions along the tool depending on the spacing needed for the leads on the pc board. Narrow spacings obviously were at the narrow end and wider at the opposite end. After selecting the right spacing and placing the component in the tool a thumb was placed over the component and thumb and first finger of the other hand was used to gentle bend the leads down to 90 degrees. If needed, then the leads could be further formed to fit special situations usually without stressing the lead to body bond. We got the tool from places like Jameco, Digi-key etc. don't know if anyone carries them anymore. While building my K2 I wished numerous times I had one of those little gizmo's. Sure would have made life simplier. Enjoy your new toy and have a great day. Jim, AB0UK __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] XG1... other frequencies possible?
Joe: I tried it with a 3.57 MHz crystal and it worked FB. I'm guessing it will work with most HF crystals in the 80-20M range. John AA0VE Joe Daring wrote: Hello' Elecraft community... I have just received my XG1 Kit... I'm wondering if I have any chance to use a different XTAL to make it work somewhere on 14.XXX MHz... What should I do for this? Any hint *VERY* appreciated! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] re: eflwa
Robert Conley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > Since I suffered > an attack of > senility when I ordered my K1-2 (I ordered it with 80m and 40m) and a > KAT1. I wish to > utilize a random length wire for it Should it be double the KXAT1's > recommendations > (48-56') with a ground system of 1/8 wavelength on the lowest band (32' > on 80m) > double that of 40/30/20m. Rob, as someone else suggested the trick is to provide an impedance in the range that the tuner can match and the best bet is to find a wire length that is not near a multiple of a half wavelength on any of the bands that you wish to operate, as half wave multiples will result in a very high impedance. The good news is that someone has already done this. A UK ham named Alan Chester G3CCB (sk) wrote an article titled "Taming the End-fed Wire" that has appeared in a number of RSGB publications and is in a book being sold by ARRL called "The Antenna File". In this article Alan has mapped out wire lengths versus bands and provides a chart which quickly allows one to figure out what bands are a "no go" with different wire lengths. Alan recommends three wire lengths. 10 meters, 15 meters and 26.5 meters. Any of these lengths should theoretically be ok for 80M and 40M. Please note that the 10m wire length doesn't work on 20M and 10M, the 15m wire length is a no go on 17m, 15M and 30M and the 26.5 meter wire probably won't match on 10M. I would suggest trying the 15m wire, which works out to about 49 feet. I have had good luck with my KX1 and the suggested 28 ft vertical wire using 5 X 16ft ground radials made from a piece of computer ribbon cable. on 40M, 30M and 20M. I leave the first 2 or 3 feet intact and split out the individual conductors on the remaining length. This is pretty easy to deploy. I would suggest that you stick with the 1/8 wave on the lowest operating frequency and deploy as many radials as you find practical (up to about 2 dozen, as it is a case of diminishing returns for this length of radial beyond that number). Your mileage may vary as it is all dependent on the matching abilities of the KAT1. Michael VE3WMB P.S. Let us know how you make out. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] XG1... other frequencies possible?
Happy Easter to everyone from here too. Joe, I would think you could just plug in another fundamental crystal and try it. Do be aware that it may alter the output level from its normal 1 uV and 50 uV, so do test the levels before relying on any particular output - the output should be consistent, just not necessarily at 1 or 50 microvolts. 73, Don W3FPR > -Original Message- > Hello' Elecraft community... > > I have just received my XG1 Kit... > > I'm wondering if I have any chance to use a different XTAL to make it work > somewhere on 14.XXX MHz... > > What should I do for this? > > Any hint *VERY* appreciated! > > Happy Easter everybody!!! > > /3 de Joe, IW7ECJ > > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] elfwa revisited
RC, Yes - double the length and try it, a 48-56 ft random wire with a 32 ft radial should load fine on 80 and up. If you find it out of the range of the KAT1 or KXT1 tuner, just extend is a few feet at a time until you discover a length that works for you. Thia is a 'random wire' antenna, it is not an EFLWA which is a more specific term for antennas that are 1 wavelength or more at the lowest frequency. The radiation pattern from an End Fed Long Wire Antenna is quite specific and has lobes at specific and predictable angles from the wire (making it a directional antenna) - the exact angle depends on the number of half wavelengths of the wire. It is this directionality that is the desirable quality of the EFLWA, quite apart from the means of feeding it. A really long long wire antenna can rival a beam in its favored direction, and I'm certain you have heard rave reports about the performance of large rhombics which are close cousins to the long wire antenna. There is a whole chapter in the ARRL Antenna book devoted to these Traveling Wave antennas - they work great if you have the space. 73, Don W3FPR > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Conley > Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 11:47 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List > Subject: [Elecraft] elfwa revisited > > > Please me revisit the EFLWA for a moment. In the KXAT1 manual page 9 > shows a random > length wire in a tree. For 40/30/20 a wire length of 24-28' is > recommended. Ground > system use one radial cut to at least 1/8 wave length on lowest band > used (16' on 40m) > page 10 shows a Pomona model 1296 double binding post. Since I suffered > an attack of > senility when I ordered my K1-2 (I ordered it with 80m and 40m) and a > KAT1. I wish to > utilize a random length wire for it Should it be double the KXAT1's > recommendations > (48-56') with a ground system of 1/8 wavelength on the lowest band (32' > on 80m) > double that of 40/30/20m. > tnx es 72/71 > de "rc"kc5wa > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Info 201 again
W3FPR - Don Wilhelm wrote: Tony, The Info 201 message tells me that the K2 'thought' that everything had to be initialized. The only thing I can think of is that AUXBUS communication was/is misbehaving. I would first drag out the schematic and look at everywhere the AUXBUS signal travels starting from the microprocessor. 73, Don W3FPR -Original Message- Hi Guys, K2 #4049 w/KPA100 + KAT100. Working without any problems for almost a year. Was running MMTTY @ 25 wts today. After returning to receive K2 locked up, no audio not able to do anything. Turned it off and back on and all was normal except could not access menu. Turned it off again and left it for a couple of hours, turned back on and am getting info 201 then ELECRAFT then 7100 plus some hum from speaker. Where to check first when I open it up? Thanks guys. Tony W7GO Don, I decided to disconnect the KPA100 and try it. The K2 initialized normally. Checked it all out and all seemed to be ok. Hooked the KPA100 up and everything came back up ok. Went ahead and did a complete re-alignment also. All is well again with #4049. Thanks alot Don for your reply. 73, Tony W7GO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
