[Elecraft] Elecraft: K1 for sale in UK
Hi, guys, I am selling my K1 but don't really know how much to ask for it or how to sell it. I built it myself to a very good standard and it works like a dream, any thoughts. Martin M0KWV Why not take a look at our Web site? http://www.simoncarves.com * The information in this email and any attachments may contain privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this email is not the intended addressee, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the addressee, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify me by telephone or email and delete all copies immediately. * ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K2 with MFJ 434 Voice Keyer
I am not familiar with the MFJ 434, so if someone with better information than my assumptions has better information, ignore my contribution. First, I will assume that you would want to have the voice keyer and the MD2 both connected to the K2 at the same time. To me, that should mean that I would want to plug the MD2 into the MFJ 434 somewhere - the 8 pin jack would be a good choice. Whether you have to bother moving the 5.6k resistor depends on whether or not the MFJ 434 can operate into a DC voltage - one would hanve to check the schematic or instructions to see for certain. If the MFJ434 has AC coupling (a capacitor between the AF Line output, you probably need to do nothing, but if the MFJ434 is DC coupled, you will need to move the 5.6K resistor from the K2 to inside the MFJ434. The internal jumpers inside the MFJ434 should be contained in its instructions. 73, Don W3FPR > -Original Message- > > Oops ... in my previous post regarding use of the MFJ 434 voice > keyer with my K2, I probably should have noted that I am > currently set up to use the Elecraft Heil MD2 microphone. Now ... > what internal jumpers in the MFJ unit might be best? Thanks again. > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/89 - Release Date: 9/2/2005 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] CW in Emergencies? (WAS: Dropping the Code Test)
Craig wrote: I suspect that both ham radio and the federal government are living in the past. The Internet has eliminated much of the traditional ham radio activity surrounding disasters (with the exception of course of local VHF activity), and 24-hour news networks have become better eyes and ears than the "official" government communication channels. - A well-honed system always lags behind the latest/greatest technology. I used to chuckle as I worked on required shipboard CW consoles in a radio room that also had TOR, satellite telephones and, when needed, an internet connection! All within easy reach of the guy at the key, like many of our hamshacks today. The problem with VHF has always been limited range. When repeaters are available, that's fine. But often they aren't. That's where people like the HF Pack ops and others all equipped with a K2 capable of SSB, maybe a buddypole or even a whip stuck in their backpack, and some batteries can get an instant signal out many tens of miles with telephone reliability. Often that range can be in the hundreds of miles. Not that CW couldn't be of critical value in some scenarios, but 99.9% of the time is a voice contact. Where Ham emergency communications provides a valuable resource is in "shadowing" key people when cellular phones are jammed. That allows the person to almost talk to the other end as if he were on the phone. A question gets an almost instant answer, often one that he can hear personally. It's great for filling in where traditional emergency services were swamped. When the Loma Prieta quake hit San Francisco, I was working for a land mobile company. We had some repeaters that were still operational. We suspended all air-time billing and got all the idle cabs we could to key points so they could use the communications system. It was invaluable during those first few hours since most mountaintop repeaters were off the air. Even the emergency service repeaters in critical areas (Mt. Loma Prieta was both the epicenter and one of the most popular repeater mountains). Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] CW in Emergencies? (WAS: Dropping the Code Test)
> I submit that the reason virtually ALL emergency nets are phone is that > CW requires a skill few Hams have today: even routine CW ops. > In the Ham world, using phone means that more operators are available > everywhere, so there are likely more operators available any time and > in any place they are needed. It seems to me that the most likely use of ham radio in an emergency is to quickly establish local communications in areas where all communication is out. That's likely to be VHF, perhaps aided by a quickly deployed repeater or two. I think the more interesting philosophical question long-term revolves around the ubiquitous Internet. Back 30 years ago when I was more involved in handling traffic during natural disasters, it seems like most of what we did was health/welfare inquiries. Now, if survivor lists can get to a location with Internet access, these lists can be placed on the Web and anyone in the world can access it directly. Combine this with 24-hour cable news networks and you eliminate most of the need for long-range communication. CNN, Fox, and MSNBC had *cameras* and live reports deliberately placed in areas that were *about* to be hit, and reported live while Katrina was hitting them. They then were *there* at the Superdome and convention center in N.O. before the Red Cross, Salvation Army, or local ham radio club. If DHS Secy Chertoff and FEMA Director Brown had watched Fox News instead of listening to state and local government officials, they would have had a much better idea what was going on in the hours immediately after Katrina passed through, and supplies and transportation could have gotten to hard-hit areas much earlier. But since they depended on "official" channels and didn't turn on a TV, they didn't know what was going on. I suspect that both ham radio and the federal government are living in the past. The Internet has eliminated much of the traditional ham radio activity surrounding disasters (with the exception of course of local VHF activity), and 24-hour news networks have become better eyes and ears than the "official" government communication channels. Craig ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving
In a message dated 9/5/05 9:49:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > There are LOTS of devices with clocks > that use the time change algorithm that has been in use since the > 70s. Every one of those devices will become obsolete. So, just think > of your favorite devices, such as VCRs, wrist watches, etc. You will > get to replace them all. > > Heck, even older operating systems like Win95 and Win98... Of course there are work-arounds, like lying to the computer for a couple of weeks a year. I'm not going to replace anything. Because sooner or later they'll probably change back! 73 de Jim, N2EY ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving
Jack Brindle wrote: This one will be a real pain. There are LOTS of devices with clocks that use the time change algorithm that has been in use since the 70s. Every one of those devices will become obsolete. So, just think of your favorite devices, such as VCRs, wrist watches, etc. You will get to replace them all. ...or just reset the time like I do with my old Timex analog pocket watch. Tim N9PUZ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving
This one will be a real pain. There are LOTS of devices with clocks that use the time change algorithm that has been in use since the 70s. Every one of those devices will become obsolete. So, just think of your favorite devices, such as VCRs, wrist watches, etc. You will get to replace them all. We have a year to get our legislators to reverse this situation and bring sanity back... On Sep 5, 2005, at 5:13 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: What next will my Government complicate for us and how? I have to get the instruction manual, like I know where I put that, to even figure out how to set the clocks, and our multitude of phones are another issue ... I suppose Ubiquitel will set our cell phones and my truck (he says hopefully because otherwise, he is screwed) ... what about the 2.5 and 5 GHz cordless phones we have in the house. Surely they can't expect us to find the manuals ... can they? (Actually, did they check about that or care?) What is XP going to do? (OK, that may be an idle question ... I do wonder if Microsoft knows what it is going to do, but whatever it does will surely be billed as a 'feature') So many really important things in our world to deal with, so many distractions. Why can't GMT rule? Fred K6DGW Auburn CA CM98lw Jack Brindle wrote: Milt, if you set your clocks back on the first Sunday in October, you will be out of sync with the rest of us for about three weeks. Current law has us setting the clocks back on the LAST Sunday in October. Well, except for the clocks we keep on GMT/UTC... On Sep 5, 2005, at 4:30 PM, Milt Jensen, N5IA wrote: HMMM DST now terminates on the first Sunday in October. If it is to end the first Sunday in November beginning in 2007, then that is a FULL month more in the fall. ? Clarification please, Jerry, from your XYL. Milt, N5IA - Original Message - From: "Jeremiah McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 8:28 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Datlight saving The XYL to the rescue, AGAIN!...She saved the newspaper clipping and says daylight saving will be extended one month overall, not a month in the spring and another in the fall...It will begin three weeks earlier, on the second Sunday in March, and end a week later on the first Sunday in November...Starting in 2007...;^) Jerry, wa2dkg I heard something about Daylight Savings Time changing late this year but have not had this confirmed. Do any of you know about this? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/90 - Release Date: 9/5/05 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -Jack Brindle, W6FB = == ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http:// mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com - Jack Brindle, W6FB - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KAT100 and serial cable question
I've recently built at KAT100 to use with my HFPacker amplifier and K2. I know not to use a pre-made serial cable to connect the KIO2 to a computer. However, looking at the schematic for the KAT100 and J3, it looks like a regular serial cable would work fine between the KAT100 and the K2, if we leave the computer out of the picture. Has anyone done this? Leigh / WA5ZNU ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] CW in Emergencies? (WAS: Dropping the Code Test)
Thank you Ron ;) My first experience with the Amateur Radio Service was through participation in nets. These were FM repeater nets initially, then SSB HF nets, and finally CW NTS nets. I learned to pass traffic for NTS both using voice and via CW. It takes practice. Net procedures, phonetics, prosigns (both CW and voice) are something which requires repetition. When an emergency occurs and one is required to work ECOM the training needs to be so ingrained phonetics and procedures are automatic. Ms. Patricia and I have trained quite a number of folks in ECOM (ARECC levels 1, 2, and 3) for the local ARES/RACES group. I have been involved in ARES and in MARS for a number of years. One of the reasons I started the Elecraft CW Net was to get folks used to the idea of using CW using net procedures and getting them interested in contacts other than rag chews or contests. Tom, N0SS, and I have modified and adapted normal net procedures and QN codes to our needs. Working a CW NTS net is different but not wildly so. Gaining proficiency in CW is one thing but passing accurate traffic is another. When Pat and I train folks we have them pass traffic in groups. Carter, N3AO, gave us some tips. One of them was to have multiple people pass traffic simultaneously in the same room to mimic the chaos in a comms center. It worked. Our trainees have worked comms at the local sheriff's office and at the county EOC where the noise level gets pretty high. They valued our training and told us so as soon as the emergency was over. Thank you Carter, you gave great advice. Pat and I developed our hybrid classroom material to cover ECOM for the Oregon and Pacific Northwest area. We don't get hurricanes but do have floods, typhoons, earthquakes, and forest fires. Handling traffic is an important part of our training. I have not had the chance to teach others CW ECOM work but I would love to do so. We may have a call out of our local ARES group to assist some evacuees from New Orleans. I am on the list. I got to sell amateur radio and ECOMs to the local TV station last week for some work I had done for the SATERN folks. I did not get a chance to view the interview since we cannot receive television here but was told by an op I had never met that the interview portrayed the service in a very good light. I am thankful for that. I have worked in a newsroom before and know how a story can be spun in various directions. The reporter and camera man were both very kind and caring individuals. Hopefully they will send me a copy of the spot. Kevin. KD5ONS (Still Net Control Operator 5th Class) On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:32:25 -0700, Ron D'Eau Claire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... I submit that the reason virtually ALL emergency nets are phone is that CW requires a skill few Hams have today: even routine CW ops. Handling a QSO, even a rag chew, is a far, far cry from participating in a controlled CW net. That's a skill that takes time, more time, and even more time and a lot of patience and dedication to master. Just ask Kevin Rock who runs the Elecraft CW net! Getting enough Hams current with the skills to do that efficiently has always been a huge problem, even when every Ham had to be proficient at CW to get a license. That's the real reason for all those routine traffic nets we used to have across the bands every night. Even back then, how many of those experienced ops would be in the middle of the disaster, ready to handle traffic? Not many, not often. ... Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving
Fred, Windows Xp has a registry entry that keeps all the time zone information. All Microsoft has to do is update that entry; it should be a very simple change. Only a politician would think he could change the length of a day by passing a law... On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:13:22 -0700, Fred Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >What next will my Government complicate for us and how? I have to get >the instruction manual, like I know where I put that, to even figure out >how to set the clocks, and our multitude of phones are another issue ... >I suppose Ubiquitel will set our cell phones and my truck (he says >hopefully because otherwise, he is screwed) ... what about the 2.5 and 5 >GHz cordless phones we have in the house. Surely they can't expect us >to find the manuals ... can they? (Actually, did they check about that >or care?) What is XP going to do? (OK, that may be an idle question >... I do wonder if Microsoft knows what it is going to do, but whatever >it does will surely be billed as a 'feature') > >So many really important things in our world to deal with, so many >distractions. Why can't GMT rule? > >Fred K6DGW >Auburn CA CM98lw > >Jack Brindle wrote: >> Milt, if you set your clocks back on the first Sunday in October, you >> will be out of sync with the rest of us for about three weeks. Current >> law has us setting the clocks back on the LAST Sunday in October. Well, >> except for the clocks we keep on GMT/UTC... >> >> On Sep 5, 2005, at 4:30 PM, Milt Jensen, N5IA wrote: >> >>> HMMM DST now terminates on the first Sunday in October. If it >>> is to >>> end the first Sunday in November beginning in 2007, then that is a FULL >>> month more in the fall. ? >>> >>> Clarification please, Jerry, from your XYL. >>> >>> Milt, N5IA >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Jeremiah McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 8:28 AM >>> Subject: [Elecraft] Datlight saving >>> >>> >>> The XYL to the rescue, AGAIN!...She saved the newspaper clipping and says >>> daylight saving will be extended one month overall, not a month in the >>> spring and another in the fall...It will begin three weeks earlier, >>> on the >>> second Sunday in March, and end a week later on the first Sunday in >>> November...Starting in 2007...;^) >>> Jerry, wa2dkg > I heard something about Daylight Savings Time changing > late this year but have not had this confirmed. Do any of you > know about this? > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/90 - Release Date: 9/5/05 >>> >>> ___ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >>> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >>> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >>> >> >> >> -Jack Brindle, W6FB >> === >> >> >> ___ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >> >> >> > >___ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving
What next will my Government complicate for us and how? I have to get the instruction manual, like I know where I put that, to even figure out how to set the clocks, and our multitude of phones are another issue ... I suppose Ubiquitel will set our cell phones and my truck (he says hopefully because otherwise, he is screwed) ... what about the 2.5 and 5 GHz cordless phones we have in the house. Surely they can't expect us to find the manuals ... can they? (Actually, did they check about that or care?) What is XP going to do? (OK, that may be an idle question ... I do wonder if Microsoft knows what it is going to do, but whatever it does will surely be billed as a 'feature') So many really important things in our world to deal with, so many distractions. Why can't GMT rule? Fred K6DGW Auburn CA CM98lw Jack Brindle wrote: Milt, if you set your clocks back on the first Sunday in October, you will be out of sync with the rest of us for about three weeks. Current law has us setting the clocks back on the LAST Sunday in October. Well, except for the clocks we keep on GMT/UTC... On Sep 5, 2005, at 4:30 PM, Milt Jensen, N5IA wrote: HMMM DST now terminates on the first Sunday in October. If it is to end the first Sunday in November beginning in 2007, then that is a FULL month more in the fall. ? Clarification please, Jerry, from your XYL. Milt, N5IA - Original Message - From: "Jeremiah McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 8:28 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Datlight saving The XYL to the rescue, AGAIN!...She saved the newspaper clipping and says daylight saving will be extended one month overall, not a month in the spring and another in the fall...It will begin three weeks earlier, on the second Sunday in March, and end a week later on the first Sunday in November...Starting in 2007...;^) Jerry, wa2dkg I heard something about Daylight Savings Time changing late this year but have not had this confirmed. Do any of you know about this? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/90 - Release Date: 9/5/05 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -Jack Brindle, W6FB === ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving
Life was so much easier when I lived in Arizona! 73, Bob N7XY On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 04:48:13PM -0700, Jack Brindle wrote: > Milt, if you set your clocks back on the first Sunday in October, you > will be out of sync with the rest of us for about three weeks. > Current law has us setting the clocks back on the LAST Sunday in > October. Well, except for the clocks we keep on GMT/UTC... > > On Sep 5, 2005, at 4:30 PM, Milt Jensen, N5IA wrote: > > >HMMM DST now terminates on the first Sunday in October. If > >it is to > >end the first Sunday in November beginning in 2007, then that is a > >FULL > >month more in the fall. ? > > > >Clarification please, Jerry, from your XYL. > > > >Milt, N5IA > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Jeremiah McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: > >Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 8:28 AM > >Subject: [Elecraft] Datlight saving > > > > > > > >>The XYL to the rescue, AGAIN!...She saved the newspaper clipping > >>and says > >> > >daylight saving will be extended one month overall, not a month in the > >spring and another in the fall...It will begin three weeks earlier, > >on the > >second Sunday in March, and end a week later on the first Sunday in > >November...Starting in 2007...;^) > > > >> > >>Jerry, wa2dkg > >> > >> > >>>I heard something about Daylight Savings Time changing > >>>late this year but have not had this confirmed. Do any of you > >>>know about this? > >>> > >>___ > >>Elecraft mailing list > >>Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >>You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > >>Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> > >>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > >>Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > >> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >>Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/90 - Release Date: > >>9/5/05 > >> > >> > >> > > > >___ > >Elecraft mailing list > >Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > > > -Jack Brindle, W6FB > === > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY n7xy (at) n7xy.net Bainbridge Island, WA http://www.n7xy.net ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: Ordering form PA (AND UK!)
Just to add my experiences. My first order for a K2 (Jan 2004) came through parcel force and full duty was charged. Parcelforce collect the duty for customs, but would not admit that they were in the wrong. I did manage to contact customs by phone, but only by way of a helpful receptionist who got the customs officer to return my call. I sent off the label on the parcel together with copies of the invoice. Then I received a letter saying that because of the "additional" evidence they would refund me, infering that it was my fault. I eventually received the refund, three months after. My second order (March 2005), for extra modules and upgrades went through with no problems. You pays your money and takes the chance. Peter GM8GAX K2 #4027 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving
Milt, if you set your clocks back on the first Sunday in October, you will be out of sync with the rest of us for about three weeks. Current law has us setting the clocks back on the LAST Sunday in October. Well, except for the clocks we keep on GMT/UTC... On Sep 5, 2005, at 4:30 PM, Milt Jensen, N5IA wrote: HMMM DST now terminates on the first Sunday in October. If it is to end the first Sunday in November beginning in 2007, then that is a FULL month more in the fall. ? Clarification please, Jerry, from your XYL. Milt, N5IA - Original Message - From: "Jeremiah McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 8:28 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Datlight saving The XYL to the rescue, AGAIN!...She saved the newspaper clipping and says daylight saving will be extended one month overall, not a month in the spring and another in the fall...It will begin three weeks earlier, on the second Sunday in March, and end a week later on the first Sunday in November...Starting in 2007...;^) Jerry, wa2dkg I heard something about Daylight Savings Time changing late this year but have not had this confirmed. Do any of you know about this? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/90 - Release Date: 9/5/05 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -Jack Brindle, W6FB === ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving
Milt Jensen, N5IA wrote: HMMM DST now terminates on the first Sunday in October. If it is to end the first Sunday in November beginning in 2007, then that is a FULL month more in the fall. ? Clarification please, Jerry, from your XYL. Milt, N5IA From the horse's mouth: "On August 8, 2005, President George W. Bush signed the Energy Policy Act of 2005. This Act changed the time change dates in the U.S. Beginning in 2007, DST will begin on the second Sunday of March, and end the first Sunday of November. Note that the Secretary shall report to Congress on the impact of this change. Congress retains the right to revert the Daylight Saving Time back to the 2005 time schedules once the Department study is complete." -- _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ John L. Sielke ( W ) ( 2 ) ( A ) ( G ) ( N ) http://w2agn.net \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving
HMMM DST now terminates on the first Sunday in October. If it is to end the first Sunday in November beginning in 2007, then that is a FULL month more in the fall. ? Clarification please, Jerry, from your XYL. Milt, N5IA - Original Message - From: "Jeremiah McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 8:28 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Datlight saving > The XYL to the rescue, AGAIN!...She saved the newspaper clipping and says daylight saving will be extended one month overall, not a month in the spring and another in the fall...It will begin three weeks earlier, on the second Sunday in March, and end a week later on the first Sunday in November...Starting in 2007...;^) > > Jerry, wa2dkg > > > I heard something about Daylight Savings Time changing > > late this year but have not had this confirmed. Do any of you > > know about this? > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/90 - Release Date: 9/5/05 > > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KAT100 Question
I was wondering if anyone know if the KAT100 will work with the 6meter transverter? The specs don't list a frequency range. Thanks, Tom K2/100 #5020 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Dropping the Code Test
I wanted to add: When the aurora conditions were so bad that it was like having your receiver not plugged in, and I constantly monitored because of being at the North Pole, it was always exciting to hear a signal somewhere but unreadable, and then see It come up little by little and WOW! There it was. Music to your ears. Phil Philip LaMarche LaMarche Enterprises, Inc. www.instantgourmetspices.com 727-944-3226 800-395-7795 pin 02 FAX 727-937-8834 NASFT #30210 W9DVM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Earl W Cunningham Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 5:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dropping the Code Test Jim, KL7CC wrote: As often as not, SSB will get through when CW won't. FACT - not a typo! == When I lived in Michigan (closer to the magnetic north pole than Alaska), the aurora didn't make a hoot of difference on HF between SSB and CW -- weak CW was still easier to copy than weak SSB. As for propagation via aurora on VHF, the difference was startling. The rapid doppler shift rendered SSB signals unreadable while CW signals were still quite readable despite the buzz saw sound of their signals. 73, de Earl, K6SE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Dropping the Code Test
Jim, KL7CC wrote: As often as not, SSB will get through when CW won't. FACT - not a typo! == When I lived in Michigan (closer to the magnetic north pole than Alaska), the aurora didn't make a hoot of difference on HF between SSB and CW -- weak CW was still easier to copy than weak SSB. As for propagation via aurora on VHF, the difference was startling. The rapid doppler shift rendered SSB signals unreadable while CW signals were still quite readable despite the buzz saw sound of their signals. 73, de Earl, K6SE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] CW in Emergencies? (WAS: Dropping the Code Test)
Phil wrote: That was interesting. In 1958 I was on the National Geophysical Expedition to the North Pole on Drift station Alpha. KL7FLA and W9DVM/MM. We were floating. When we had severe aurora and you could turn all gains wide open and hear nothing, CW was always the first to be heard from Fairbanks and then SSB. That pattern never failed. The narrow-band nature of CW makes it audible long before a relatively wide-band mode like SSB. That's simple physics. Narrower bandwidths mean less noise power coming through, Less noise means it takes less signal to be heard, provided the signal fits in that narrow bandwidth. Here in Oregon it's rare Eu QSO that doesn't involve listening through auroral flutter. Sometimes its TOUGH! But if the other guy'll QRS, it's usually easy copy. That's one thing CW has that phone doesn't: easily adjustable bandwidth and data rates. Saying words v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y on SSB doesn't help much. I submit that the reason virtually ALL emergency nets are phone is that CW requires a skill few Hams have today: even routine CW ops. Handling a QSO, even a rag chew, is a far, far cry from participating in a controlled CW net. That's a skill that takes time, more time, and even more time and a lot of patience and dedication to master. Just ask Kevin Rock who runs the Elecraft CW net! Getting enough Hams current with the skills to do that efficiently has always been a huge problem, even when every Ham had to be proficient at CW to get a license. That's the real reason for all those routine traffic nets we used to have across the bands every night. Even back then, how many of those experienced ops would be in the middle of the disaster, ready to handle traffic? Not many, not often. It's the same reason CW was dropped from the Maritime service. It isn't that the new satellite-based GMDSS system is cheaper to install, it's not. But it's cheaper to operate: no CW operator required! No highly skilled people need be present at the critical moment, like Phillips and Bride sending CQD CQD CQD DE MGY MGY MGY from the Titanic that April night. Nowadays all anyone has to do is hit a big red button on the bridge or pick up a telephone handset. In the Ham world, using phone means that more operators are available everywhere, so there are likely more operators available any time and in any place they are needed. Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 with MFJ 434 Voice Keyer
Oops ... in my previous post regarding use of the MFJ 434 voice keyer with my K2, I probably should have noted that I am currently set up to use the Elecraft Heil MD2 microphone. Now ... what internal jumpers in the MFJ unit might be best? Thanks again. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Dropping the Code Test
Hi Jim, That was interesting. In 1958 I was on the National Geophysical Expedition to the North Pole on Drift station Alpha. KL7FLA and W9DVM/MM. We were floating. When we had severe aurora and you could turn all gains wide open and hear nothing, CW was always the first to be heard from Fairbanks and then SSB. That pattern never failed. Rig was a Collins KWS-1 and 75A-4. Just wanted to add another piece. Phil K2/KAT100 Philip LaMarche LaMarche Enterprises, Inc. www.instantgourmetspices.com 727-944-3226 800-395-7795 pin 02 FAX 727-937-8834 NASFT #30210 W9DVM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Wiley Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 2:43 PM Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dropping the Code Test OK, guys, get ready to hate me. Here in Alaska, (that's a bit North of Michigan, to our flatlander friends) - Aurora is the norm. As in - every day, 365 days a year. Some days it's no big deal, some days it eats your lunch, it's just a fact of life. As often as not, SSB will get through when CW won't. FACT - not a typo! Apparently, with rapid changes in path length, which is what is responsible for the waterey sound of classic aurora reflection propagation, CW signals sometimes get lost in the process. I think this might be because CW signals are on just one frequency, and the destructive effects of multipath (selective fading) can wipe out individual dits or dahs, making copy of CW problematic. SSB, on the other hand, occupies a comparatively wide channel, and has energy on any number of frequencies within that channel. So, during times when aurora is very active, SSB apparently gets through because it has a sort of built in frequency diversity. If a hole gets punched in a SSB signal at one spot, there are still hundreds of adjacent frequencies that have an equal chance of being reinforced. The net result is that SSB suffers from rapid shifts in tonal balance as the "notched out" frequencies shift rapidly within the SSB pass band, but enough energy still remains that copy is possible. You will note that I am not saying CW is totally disabled - often times enough gets through that the incomparable DSP unit that sits on your shoulders can make enough sense of what it gets to still come up with copy. After all, VHF DX via auroral reflection is done all the time. But, and this is the important part, there are indeed times when SSB gets through when CW cannot. Man - what a disgusting idea. High latitude propagation is very different from what most "South 48" hams take for normal. It is nothing unusual for us to have total HF shutdowns lasting days on end. Even when bands are not being wiped out by solar storms, we get caught between between lukewarm MUFs and elevated LUFs - we frequently have access to only one band - 20 meters - because we are caught between the MUF / LUF squeeze, and even then we will hear only a few of the strongest signals. My station is not all that bad either - I run a TH7 antenna at 75 feet. When the band is open, I can use my K2, but when it's ratty even my Mark 5 driving an ACOM 2000A may not be enough. Oh well, there's always Pinochle - Jim, KL7CC EricJ wrote: It is my understanding from a communication with WB8RCR, a member of the Michigan Net, that CW is used because of a geographical anomaly . . . . . ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Dropping the Code Test
EricJ wrote: Another point that is missed is that emergency traffic is not just endless numbered messages relayed verbatim. But this is exactly what health & welfare traffic is. It is slightly lower priority than emergency traffic, but it is very high volume. The police, etc., have their own communications systems and don't need ham help. There are plenty of applications for CW in an emergency. The overriding reason that CW is not used anymore in emergencies is simply that there are too few qualified operators. Someone who can copy 15 wpm in his head, or even recognize his own call in a pileup at 30 wpm is most likely not capable of accurately copying traffic at a reasonable speed. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Another K2 is born
After about 2 weeks, 40-50 hours and some troubleshooting, K2 number 5037 is alive and beaconing on 20 meters at 30 watts. This one has the KPA100, KSB, K2IO, noise filter, audio filter and 160 adapter. Pretty much the full boat. Observations. The KPA 100 is almost as much work as building the RF board. Lots and lots of parts. I am still missing a couple of minor caps, but substituted them in from the junk drawer. This is the first KPA100 that I have built, and it is one first class, semi-complex piece of gear. Very nice. Also makes the rig very heavy! I still need to re-align the filters. The 1.5 and .700 CW filters are ok, but the .400 and .200 read about 2KC lower when the tone is centered in the filter. Also still need to calibrate the VCO and SSB filters. I have also made several contacts on PSK with the QRP version, so I am assuming that the sideband operation will be ok. I don't have a mike with an 8 pin plug, so I have not been able to try it on voice. This one is not staying here. I sold my other K2 #272 about 2 years ago, so this is the first time that I have had one in the shack for a while. First class rig, but I knew that. This one will be going to a good friend who is a DX hound/CW nut so I am sure that he will appreciate the rig. Kudos to Wayne and company. I have not seen the newer rigs with the changes that have been made, and it is impressive to say the least. I don't think that I will be going near a soldering iron for a little while now. Thanks to Scott, Elecraft and the list for the help that I got when needed. Most if not all of the problems that I had were build created. Just need to stop building when I get tired. Jess AE0CW ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Dropping the Code Test
EricJ wrote: Come on, Vic. Where is a CW operator going to set up? Are they going to set up some place like the Superdome with all that pandemonium? Are they going to walk around operating HF with 10' poles sticking out of their back pocket like W0RW/PM? It just doesn't make sense when a ham on foot with a pocket sized HT on VHF communicating through a repeater or an on site dual band VHF/UHF mobile rig acting as a repeater can move fast, stay safe and get the message through using clear, clean FM. And if there are hundreds of people trying to tell their relatives that they're alive? The operator will have to pass names, addresses, and phone numbers using phonetics (well, not the phone numbers). Hams were not allowed in early-on because the situation on the ground was just not safe even for rescue personnel. Angry people, violence, shoot-outs. How's an HF CW guy going to deal with that? How does FM make it easier to deal with? -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for September 4th, 2005
Thank you Matt. You have clarified what was ringing in the back of my brain. I had heard something was going to change with Daylight Savings Time but not the particulars. Thus we may (or may not) have to wait until next year for the change to occur. Thank you Ben Franklin and the US Congress ;) What would we do without either one of them? (That was rhetorical folks!) Kevin. On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 23:08:07 -0500, Matt Osborn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Another month of daylight Clocks will go cuckoo BY MICHAEL McAULIFF DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU WASHINGTON - The clock is ticking on a new Y2K-style techno scare in 2007 - thanks to Congress. That's because legislators slipped a measure into the energy bill that President Bush is set to sign today extending daylight-saving time by four weeks - a change-up that machines already programmed for the annual hour jump may not be prepared to cope with. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/335379p-286516c.html I've heard some say it will go into effect this year; the above article says 2007. I'm not sure if this measure was stripped from the bill. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/89 - Release Date: 9/2/2005 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Dropping the Code Test
So much for the rationale for the ONLY CW emergency net I could come up with. Hi. I suspect the REAL reason it is used is because it has been around since 1935 and it is an UP Michigan tradition, but I don't know that. I just relayed the rationale that John gave me. Another point that is missed is that emergency traffic is not just endless numbered messages relayed verbatim. A lot of it is emergency coordination where emergency services personnel are trying to get information out of an area or handle logistics that are not in the form of formal messages. This is often much easier on voice than on CW where decisionmakers can hear what is going on and relay instructions to the operator without formal messages passing back and forth. It might help us to preserve ham radio in the future if we learn to let go of the myths, and determine what we can contribute in the real world. We look foolish when we can't justify our cherished traditions to hard-nosed regulators. Me? I use CW all the time, not because it's better, but because it's fun. Sometimes that's justification enough. Eric KE6US www.ke6us.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Wiley Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 11:43 AM Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dropping the Code Test OK, guys, get ready to hate me. Here in Alaska, (that's a bit North of Michigan, to our flatlander friends) - Aurora is the norm. As in - every day, 365 days a year. Some days it's no big deal, some days it eats your lunch, it's just a fact of life. As often as not, SSB will get through when CW won't. FACT - not a typo! Apparently, with rapid changes in path length, which is what is responsible for the waterey sound of classic aurora reflection propagation, CW signals sometimes get lost in the process. I think this might be because CW signals are on just one frequency, and the destructive effects of multipath (selective fading) can wipe out individual dits or dahs, making copy of CW problematic. SSB, on the other hand, occupies a comparatively wide channel, and has energy on any number of frequencies within that channel. So, during times when aurora is very active, SSB apparently gets through because it has a sort of built in frequency diversity. If a hole gets punched in a SSB signal at one spot, there are still hundreds of adjacent frequencies that have an equal chance of being reinforced. The net result is that SSB suffers from rapid shifts in tonal balance as the "notched out" frequencies shift rapidly within the SSB pass band, but enough energy still remains that copy is possible. You will note that I am not saying CW is totally disabled - often times enough gets through that the incomparable DSP unit that sits on your shoulders can make enough sense of what it gets to still come up with copy. After all, VHF DX via auroral reflection is done all the time. But, and this is the important part, there are indeed times when SSB gets through when CW cannot. Man - what a disgusting idea. High latitude propagation is very different from what most "South 48" hams take for normal. It is nothing unusual for us to have total HF shutdowns lasting days on end. Even when bands are not being wiped out by solar storms, we get caught between between lukewarm MUFs and elevated LUFs - we frequently have access to only one band - 20 meters - because we are caught between the MUF / LUF squeeze, and even then we will hear only a few of the strongest signals. My station is not all that bad either - I run a TH7 antenna at 75 feet. When the band is open, I can use my K2, but when it's ratty even my Mark 5 driving an ACOM 2000A may not be enough. Oh well, there's always Pinochle - Jim, KL7CC EricJ wrote: It is my understanding from a communication with WB8RCR, a member of the Michigan Net, that CW is used because of a geographical anomaly . . . . . ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Dropping the Code Test
Why hate anyone, that is why a communicator needs to be versed in all the tools. That would be SSB, digital, CW, etc... You are forced, since emergancies are not scheduled to take what ever mode works the best at the specific time and get the information applied in a standard format through. 73 Chuck AA8VS - Original Message - From: "Jim Wiley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dropping the Code Test OK, guys, get ready to hate me. Here in Alaska, (that's a bit North of Michigan, to our flatlander friends) - Aurora is the norm. As in - every day, 365 days a year. Some days it's no big deal, some days it eats your lunch, it's just a fact of life. As often as not, SSB will get through when CW won't. FACT - not a typo! Apparently, with rapid changes in path length, which is what is responsible for the waterey sound of classic aurora reflection propagation, CW signals sometimes get lost in the process. I think this might be because CW signals are on just one frequency, and the destructive effects of multipath (selective fading) can wipe out individual dits or dahs, making copy of CW problematic. SSB, on the other hand, occupies a comparatively wide channel, and has energy on any number of frequencies within that channel. So, during times when aurora is very active, SSB apparently gets through because it has a sort of built in frequency diversity. If a hole gets punched in a SSB signal at one spot, there are still hundreds of adjacent frequencies that have an equal chance of being reinforced. The net result is that SSB suffers from rapid shifts in tonal balance as the "notched out" frequencies shift rapidly within the SSB pass band, but enough energy still remains that copy is possible. You will note that I am not saying CW is totally disabled - often times enough gets through that the incomparable DSP unit that sits on your shoulders can make enough sense of what it gets to still come up with copy. After all, VHF DX via auroral reflection is done all the time. But, and this is the important part, there are indeed times when SSB gets through when CW cannot. Man - what a disgusting idea. High latitude propagation is very different from what most "South 48" hams take for normal. It is nothing unusual for us to have total HF shutdowns lasting days on end. Even when bands are not being wiped out by solar storms, we get caught between between lukewarm MUFs and elevated LUFs - we frequently have access to only one band - 20 meters - because we are caught between the MUF / LUF squeeze, and even then we will hear only a few of the strongest signals. My station is not all that bad either - I run a TH7 antenna at 75 feet. When the band is open, I can use my K2, but when it's ratty even my Mark 5 driving an ACOM 2000A may not be enough. Oh well, there's always Pinochle - Jim, KL7CC EricJ wrote: It is my understanding from a communication with WB8RCR, a member of the Michigan Net, that CW is used because of a geographical anomaly . . . . . ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Dropping the Code Test
OK, guys, get ready to hate me. Here in Alaska, (that's a bit North of Michigan, to our flatlander friends) - Aurora is the norm. As in - every day, 365 days a year. Some days it's no big deal, some days it eats your lunch, it's just a fact of life. As often as not, SSB will get through when CW won't. FACT - not a typo! Apparently, with rapid changes in path length, which is what is responsible for the waterey sound of classic aurora reflection propagation, CW signals sometimes get lost in the process. I think this might be because CW signals are on just one frequency, and the destructive effects of multipath (selective fading) can wipe out individual dits or dahs, making copy of CW problematic. SSB, on the other hand, occupies a comparatively wide channel, and has energy on any number of frequencies within that channel. So, during times when aurora is very active, SSB apparently gets through because it has a sort of built in frequency diversity. If a hole gets punched in a SSB signal at one spot, there are still hundreds of adjacent frequencies that have an equal chance of being reinforced. The net result is that SSB suffers from rapid shifts in tonal balance as the "notched out" frequencies shift rapidly within the SSB pass band, but enough energy still remains that copy is possible. You will note that I am not saying CW is totally disabled - often times enough gets through that the incomparable DSP unit that sits on your shoulders can make enough sense of what it gets to still come up with copy. After all, VHF DX via auroral reflection is done all the time. But, and this is the important part, there are indeed times when SSB gets through when CW cannot. Man - what a disgusting idea. High latitude propagation is very different from what most "South 48" hams take for normal. It is nothing unusual for us to have total HF shutdowns lasting days on end. Even when bands are not being wiped out by solar storms, we get caught between between lukewarm MUFs and elevated LUFs - we frequently have access to only one band - 20 meters - because we are caught between the MUF / LUF squeeze, and even then we will hear only a few of the strongest signals. My station is not all that bad either - I run a TH7 antenna at 75 feet. When the band is open, I can use my K2, but when it's ratty even my Mark 5 driving an ACOM 2000A may not be enough. Oh well, there's always Pinochle - Jim, KL7CC EricJ wrote: It is my understanding from a communication with WB8RCR, a member of the Michigan Net, that CW is used because of a geographical anomaly . . . . . ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Prefered order
Paul, Those particular options have no effect on each other and can be installed in whatever order you might choose. Pick whichever seems easiest (or more important) to you for the first one. 73, Don W3FPR > -Original Message- > > Hello allI have acquired the KDsp2, KNB2 and > KPA100 kits. Is there an order of preference, or ease, > to build and install these kits? Tnx Paul, NN5G > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/89 - Release Date: 9/2/2005 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Prefered order
Hi Paul, In reference to your post here on the Elecraft forum about the order of completing the KDSP2, KNBs and KPA100. I did the KNB first as it is pretty simple and requires no major adjustments and was easy to finish. Next I did the DSP2. It does require more effort and adjustment and I wanted it working before tackling the power amp. My CW skills are lacking so without it the K2 wasn't of much use. And last was the KPA100. It is more involved and takes more time. Also while taking breaks from it I was able to work some QRP and get a bit of feel for what that is all about. Probably doesn't make much difference in the long run. But that sequence seemed the best for me. Jim, AB0UK K2 S/N 4787 __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Dropping the Code Test
It is my understanding from a communication with WB8RCR, a member of the Michigan Net, that CW is used because of a geographical anomaly in Upper Michigan. Because of the high latitude and presence of aurora in Winter, CW makes a regional net more reliable. It is the only instance I was able to turn up where emergency services personnel preferred CW over voice. The NREN you cited is sponsored by the same Michigan Net. Traffic volume is modest at best. The fact remains. HF CW is just not necessary or desirable in the vast majority of emergency communications. The military, including MARS, has abandoned it. There are no government agencies that I know in the US and maybe the world, that depend on CW for anything. That does not mean CW is useless. More and more hams are discovering that it gets a brief canned exchange across during contests and DXing. But that's a far cry from handling traffic from a flooded New Orleans or ground zero at the WTC. Things have changed, yet we promote the same myth that CW can save the day. Apparently, those who do this kind of work day after day, don't agree with you. Eric KE6US www.ke6us.com -Original Message- From: Chuck Mabbott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 7:10 AM To: Vic K2VCO; EricJ Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dropping the Code Test Check out the following nets http://www.aa8vs.org/nren both CW and Winlink http://www.qsl.net/w8ihx CW net been running since '35. The nets are running and traffic is being passed and ops are standing by to assist 7.050 and 14.050 Just need to get the word out. - Original Message - From: "Vic K2VCO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "EricJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dropping the Code Test > EricJ wrote: >> Despite this oft repeated myth, CW is RARELY ever used in emergency >> communications. > > ...these days. It certainly was in the past. > >> Otherwise, no one there could come >> up with a single emergency services group using CW ops for any purpose. > > ...because it's hard to find competent operators. > >> I would be >> willing to bet during the worst moments of the current crisis in the Gulf >> states that nobody was heard to utter the words, "If only we could get >> some >> CW ops in there with battery power rigs." It just doesn't happen. > > I've heard over and over in news reports that 'there's no communications', > people can't find out if their relatives and friends are OK, etc. This is > EXACTLY the kind of situation in which CW operators with battery powered > rigs would excel. > >> Consider that amateur radio emergency services must interface >> with other services whose operators don't use CW and you can see it just >> isn't very useful for emergency communications in the real world. > > Health and welfare traffic can be independent of other services. And why > can't the interface consist of a ham handing a piece of paper to his > other-service counterpart? > > Having handled traffic by CW in the dark ages (somewhere I have a BPL > medallion) I can tell you that phone cannot come close to the efficiency > or accuracy of CW in handling formal traffic. And there is, or should be, > a structure that already exists for them to fit into -- the ARRL NTS -- > which would provide connections to these operators. Frequencies, > schedules, liasons, all should exist. > > The problem is not that CW wouldn't be useful, it's that there aren't > enough competent CW operators who know how to handle traffic. And many of > the ones that do are age 60+. Most of these guys aren't up to being > helicoptered in to stricken areas. > > -- > 73, > Vic, K2VCO > Fresno CA > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 w/ MFJ Voice Keyer 434
Hi folks. I just picked up an MFJ 434 Voice Keyer which I would like to use with my K2 in an upcoming contest. I'm sure some of you have done this. What jumper settings did you use? Thanks Ted WB3AVD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Emergency Nets
I went to the Satern web site to read about past emergencies that they were involved in. I was surprised at the level of traffic. In most emergencies they were only handling a few hundred messages. I bring this up certainly not to minimize the importance of these messages to those involved, but to point out that voice is well suited to this volume of traffic, and there does not seem to be any real need for building high speed digital links on HF. I worked full-time at K2USA handling CW, SSB and even some AM traffic on ham nets and MARS nets. Even then (we opened the station to handle AK Earthquake traffic in 1964), throughput on SSB was comparable to that on CW when the operators at both ends were skilled. I have no doubt that there are isolated instances when CW is the only mode to get through, but for the bulk of "first responder" traffic and Health & Welfare traffic, VHF/UHF FM is a far better choice. Eric KE6US www.ke6us.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ron Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 6:52 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Emergency Nets As we all know, there is traffic on 14.265 with occassional inactivity (inactivity is good). I too, am surprised with the success of using phone. Satern uses phone and their protocols require use of phonetics when in doubt. They also require use of "pro-words" during traffic handling which works very well. Sometimes during an exchange, one can become emotional and the need to be clear is important. That is maybe why CNN was repeated phonetically. Protocol rules, do not "assume". The use of digital modes may work well, but you still need phone to originate the data. I find the very basics of ham radio always comes through when disaster strikes. Ron wb1hga "CW. an esoteric experience" ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Dropping the Code Test
Come on, Vic. Where is a CW operator going to set up? Are they going to set up some place like the Superdome with all that pandemonium? Are they going to walk around operating HF with 10' poles sticking out of their back pocket like W0RW/PM? It just doesn't make sense when a ham on foot with a pocket sized HT on VHF communicating through a repeater or an on site dual band VHF/UHF mobile rig acting as a repeater can move fast, stay safe and get the message through using clear, clean FM. It's done all the time all over the country. Hams were not allowed in early-on because the situation on the ground was just not safe even for rescue personnel. Angry people, violence, shoot-outs. How's an HF CW guy going to deal with that? They weren't jumping out of helicopters with HF CW rigs. They are going in with VHF/UHF HTs to communicate with local emergency services and getting some H&W traffic out via VHF/UHF. It is then put on HF by guys sitting at home with big antennas and lots of power or the Internet. I live a few miles from the San Andreas Fault. I have a K1, K2 and KX1 all able to work on battery power for extended periods. But when the Big One hits and I need help, I'm grabbing my FT-470 HT first. Eric KE6US www.ke6us.com -Original Message- From: Vic K2VCO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I would be > willing to bet during the worst moments of the current crisis in the > Gulf states that nobody was heard to utter the words, "If only we > could get some CW ops in there with battery power rigs." It just doesn't happen. I've heard over and over in news reports that 'there's no communications', people can't find out if their relatives and friends are OK, etc. This is EXACTLY the kind of situation in which CW operators with battery powered rigs would excel. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Antenna Static Bleeder?
As a new K2 and antenna system loom in the near future (K2 is in transit), I am working on the design and modeling the new antenna. This will be very simple, an 80 metre doublet feed with homemade open wire feeder. I will use the antenna on all bands 160 to 10 meters. I will also tie the feeder together and feed against ground for 160 meters, and possible higher bands. The antenna system will be tuned with a KAT100 and connected in it's balanced doublet configuration with a BL1 balun. I would like to put some sort of bleeder system from each side of the open wire feeder to ground to bleed off the static electricity. I have four 2 watt 1 megaohm resistors that I was thinking of using, two in parallel on each side of the feed line to ground. The resistors are made by NTE and are metal with a voltage rating of 500 volts. Specs at http://www.nteinc.com/resistor_web/pdf/twow.pdf. Will the resistors be a good solution or would a proper RF choke be a better idea? Can an RF choke be built that will work well with the K2/100 and KAT100 and not cause additional problems with resonances, etc. Also what will happen when the two RF chokes are connected in parallel when the feeder is tied together for 160 metres? Will I need to disconnect one of the RF chokes? Comments, opinions, ideas? -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Datlight saving
The XYL to the rescue, AGAIN!...She saved the newspaper clipping and says daylight saving will be extended one month overall, not a month in the spring and another in the fall...It will begin three weeks earlier, on the second Sunday in March, and end a week later on the first Sunday in November...Starting in 2007...;^) Jerry, wa2dkg > I heard something about Daylight Savings Time changing > late this year but have not had this confirmed. Do any of you > know about this? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Dropping the Code Test
Check out the following nets http://www.aa8vs.org/nren both CW and Winlink http://www.qsl.net/w8ihx CW net been running since '35. The nets are running and traffic is being passed and ops are standing by to assist 7.050 and 14.050 Just need to get the word out. - Original Message - From: "Vic K2VCO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "EricJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dropping the Code Test EricJ wrote: Despite this oft repeated myth, CW is RARELY ever used in emergency communications. ...these days. It certainly was in the past. Otherwise, no one there could come up with a single emergency services group using CW ops for any purpose. ...because it's hard to find competent operators. I would be willing to bet during the worst moments of the current crisis in the Gulf states that nobody was heard to utter the words, "If only we could get some CW ops in there with battery power rigs." It just doesn't happen. I've heard over and over in news reports that 'there's no communications', people can't find out if their relatives and friends are OK, etc. This is EXACTLY the kind of situation in which CW operators with battery powered rigs would excel. Consider that amateur radio emergency services must interface with other services whose operators don't use CW and you can see it just isn't very useful for emergency communications in the real world. Health and welfare traffic can be independent of other services. And why can't the interface consist of a ham handing a piece of paper to his other-service counterpart? Having handled traffic by CW in the dark ages (somewhere I have a BPL medallion) I can tell you that phone cannot come close to the efficiency or accuracy of CW in handling formal traffic. And there is, or should be, a structure that already exists for them to fit into -- the ARRL NTS -- which would provide connections to these operators. Frequencies, schedules, liasons, all should exist. The problem is not that CW wouldn't be useful, it's that there aren't enough competent CW operators who know how to handle traffic. And many of the ones that do are age 60+. Most of these guys aren't up to being helicoptered in to stricken areas. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Daylight Saving Time
As I understand it, legislation has been approved to start daylight saving a month earlier and end it a month later, but not until 2007... Jerry, wa2dkg > I heard something about Daylight Savings Time changing > late this year but have not had this confirmed. Do any of you > know about this? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Emergency Nets
As we all know, there is traffic on 14.265 with occassional inactivity (inactivity is good). I too, am surprised with the success of using phone. Satern uses phone and their protocols require use of phonetics when in doubt. They also require use of "pro-words" during traffic handling which works very well. Sometimes during an exchange, one can become emotional and the need to be clear is important. That is maybe why CNN was repeated phonetically. Protocol rules, do not "assume". The use of digital modes may work well, but you still need phone to originate the data. I find the very basics of ham radio always comes through when disaster strikes. Ron wb1hga "CW. an esoteric experience" ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Feed Line advice to KAT100
On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 20:23:28 +1200, Nigel wrote: >3) Balun at the ant (?:1) plus RG213 to tuner This is a good configuration if the antenna is long enough to load on all the bands on which you want to use it. BUT, with a feedline only 5m long, and a transmitter power of only 100 watts, RG-213 is larger than you need. RG-59 or RG-8X would work just fine unless you want to run much more power. Feedlines must be far longer than 5m before losses or standing waves become a problem, and the smaller cable will be both more manageable and less visible. One other consideration though. If you want to load the antenna as a long wire against "ground" or a counterpoise, you would not want a balun at the antenna, and would need balanced line with a balun at the antenna tuner. I use this configuration for a limited space antenna here in a Chicago residential neighborhood as my only antenna for 160 and an alternative antenna for 80 (that works better in some directions than the same wire loaded as a dipole). See http://audiosystemsgroup.com/K9YC/k9yc160TopLoad.htm and http://audiosystemsgroup.com/K9YC/k9ycant.htm 73, Jim K9YC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Dropping the Code Test
In a message dated 9/4/05 8:50:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > This is really tiring to hear. "CW subbands" has always been the short > way of saying "the frequency segments where voice (and later other wide > modes) are not allowed". Yup, but a lot of us say "CW/data subbands" too. Nobody actually thinks that CW is restricted > > to those frequencies or that only CW is allowed to be used in them. > I have encountered more than a few hams who think that there *are* CW-only subbands on HF, and don't realize that data modes share all of that space. When someone says "exclusive CW subbands" or "CW-only bandspace" it's pretty clear they think only Morse Code is allowed. 73 de Jim, N2EY ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: Ordering form PA (AND UK!)
At 00:47 05/09/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Others have got their consignment without any hindrance of this type. Just >the luck of the draw on the day or which way your personal Customs official >gets out of bed in the morning. Just to balance the horror stories: I have had a number (~7) of shipments to the UK from Elecraft over the years and only once was charged anything other than 17.5% VAT (plus the outrageous ParcelForce fee to collect it, of course). On that occasion, I contacted Customs by e-mail, they asked me to send them the sticker from the package, and I got a refund of the duty within a month. Neill G4HLX K2/100 #2425 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Feed Line advice to KAT100
Would welcome advice from the more experienced on a suggested feed line arrangement. I am erecting a horizontal loop (more rectangular than square) which will be 95 to 105 metres in circumference, up about 8 to 10 metres.This is to be connected to a KAT100 tuner. The loop configuration has been chosen as the K2 is on second floor and this enables the feed line length to be only 5 metres in anticipation of high swrs and potentially high feed line losses. Also for low neighbour visibility. The loop passes through trees to be in the clear but it is not possible to reduce the length to 80m, and tune it to the CW parts of the bands, without hitting tree branches.I will be operating 80 through 20m Thoughts for the feed line are:- 1) Use 5M of RG213 from Ant to tuner 2) Use 3M 450 ohm ladder line to Balun (BL1 4:1) and then 2m coax. (this gets the balun out of the weather. 3) Balun at the ant (?:1) plus RG213 to tuner Which of the above is considered preferable and why? Other suggestions? Thanks -- 73, Nigel, ZL2DF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: Ordering form PA (AND UK!)
At 00:47 05/09/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be great if all this worked, but am sad to say you are still at the mercy of the official at the point of import who may not understand or want to understand the rules and can place import duty on the package. This ramps up considerably the price you have to pay before the package will be released. The easist route at this point appears to be to pay this cost and go though the saga of reclaiming the amount from Customs, which took about 3 months in my case. The UK Customs involved were unreachable by telephone, did not answer e-mail and the only route appears to be snail mail. Getting agitated does you no good, only tends to raise your blood pressure. Others have got their consignment without any hindrance of this type. Just the luck of the draw on the day or which way your personal Customs official gets out of bed in the morning. Bob, G3VVT K2 #4168 Hi Bob, Your experience echoes mine. I'm afraid it's worse than that. Mistakes may be endemic in UK customs. I did manage to speak to a representative in customs over the phone at the International Parcel Force clearing centre. I also got a written explanation of why the error occurred. Apparently, their computer system only allows the first part of the HS tariff number to be entered. Since there are several rates of duty for the same prefix, they can charge the highest rate of duty for all the codes with that same prefix. This is even though Elecraft is stating all the correct information and full HS tariff code on both the customs declaration and the invoice. It also took me about 3 months to get a refund. UK customs are supposed to have a service charter and respond to claims within a certain period. I had to email them twice to remind them that they had exceeded their own time limits for a response. I have to say that if their explanation is true, the whole thing is a crock. In such cases, I think the important thing is to always assert your rights and claim the refund. Nils carborundum illegitemae. Conversely, I have ordered goods delivered by courier. In all cases, the customs handling of these was fast and correct. So I suspect the issue is that it depends which customs clearing centre is being used. The one for International Parcel Force seems a shambles. One thing I suggested to Pam at Elecraft was that they should specifically stamp on all parcels destined for EU countries that import duty is zero rated. Elecraft could have a ready-made label for EU shipments that stated in bold letters "EU zero rated import duty" or some such. That way, there would be a chance that a customs officer using the "inadequate computer system" and entering just the prefix might be prompted to actually look up the proper full code. 73, David M0DHO (K2 #4030). ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
