[Elecraft] KX1 build photos

2007-07-11 Thread John Shadle

Steve (and others),
Here are some photos of my KX1 build from this spring. I have yet to add 
the 30m/80m mod, but hope to get on with it this month.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/shadle/collections/72157600234577810/

(This is a link to a collection of amateur radio photos of mine, but it 
is easy to find the KX1 photo sets.)


Like others have suggested, I decided to install L6 on the bottom side 
of the board (and there is a photo of that).


My major problem during the build was in winding T1. Don't let those 
wires cross each other! :)


Good luck and have fun! It will go quicker than you anticipate (most 
likely).


-john, W4PAH
Chapel Hill, NC


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[Elecraft] Re: KX1 build photos

2007-07-11 Thread Steve Westfall
John,

Those are excellent quality construction photos.  Thanks for posting them!

I was hoping to see a close-up of C56, which has no solder pads and is instead 
soldered directly to pins 2 and 3 of K1.  Can you (or anyone else) suggest how 
to accomplish this step?  Is this where hemostats (which I haven't yet 
acquired) might come in handy?

Steve

- Original Message 
From: John Shadle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 6:49:08 AM
Subject: KX1 build photos

Steve (and others),
Here are some photos of my KX1 build from this spring. I have yet to add 
the 30m/80m mod, but hope to get on with it this month.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/shadle/collections/72157600234577810/

(This is a link to a collection of amateur radio photos of mine, but it 
is easy to find the KX1 photo sets.)

Like others have suggested, I decided to install L6 on the bottom side 
of the board (and there is a photo of that).

My major problem during the build was in winding T1. Don't let those 
wires cross each other! :)

Good luck and have fun! It will go quicker than you anticipate (most 
likely).

-john, W4PAH
Chapel Hill, NC







 

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RE: [Elecraft] Re: KX1 build photos

2007-07-11 Thread Craig Rairdin
 I was hoping to see a close-up of C56, which has no solder pads 
 and is instead soldered directly to pins 2 and 3 of K1.  

I have page-by-page build photos of my KX1 at:

http://www.craigr.com/coppermine/index.php?cat=23

Select the Elecraft KX1 album, select the second page of photos, and
you'll see Page 34 (C56 Detail). It's a little dark but you can see what I
did. IIRC I tacked one pin down by heating the existing solder then worked
on the other pin. Once I was happy with that I went back to the first pin
and made sure it was adequately soldered.

I also have page-by-page build photos of my K2:

http://www.craigr.com/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=32

And KPA-100

http://www.craigr.com/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=34

And while we're at it, K3 photos:

http://www.craigr.com/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=63

Craig
NZ0R
KX1 #1499
K1 #1966
K2/100 #4941


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RE: [Elecraft] Got K2, many questions...

2007-07-11 Thread Brett gazdzinski
 
  
 1. I need to know about the CAL FIL function. I prefer a CW 
 pitch of 400 Hz.
 The previous owner had it set at 600 Hz. The manual states I 
 might want to
 use CAL FIL to adjust the BFO settings for a new pitch. The 
 problem I am
 having is that I can't get the filters to accept a 400 Hz 
 pitch, even when
 ST P is set to 400. The exception is the 1.5 kHz filter. The 
 700 Hz filter
 sort of passes a 400 Hz tone. Since I didn't build the K2, I 
 don't have the
 frequency counter test cable mentioned in the CAL FIL 
 section, at least I
 don't think I do.

400 Hz should be no problem, but you must go through all the calibration 
steps to reset the bfo and filters.


  
 2. The K2 has the KAT2 internal ATU. I am getting HI CUR warning on an
 antenna that is already matched. The antenna is a ladder line 
 fed delta loop
 through an old 275 watt Johnson Matchbox. I know the antenna 
 is matched for
 the portion I am using. The coax is connected to the ANTENNA  
 BNC instead of
 ANT1 or ANT2. I tried setting ATU to CALP or CALS. I simply 
 want to bypass
 the ATU for home use. But I also want to use the internal SWR 
 function to
 manually tune the Johnson Matchbox. I will try the ANT1 or ANT2 BNC
 connector. Perhaps that is what I should do. Reading the 
 manual couldn't
 hurt either, hi.

Use the built in atu, just hit the tune button and the K2
will get the swr low between the K2 and the matchbox.

Better yet would be to buy a low power balun and hook
the antenna directly to the K2 which can tune and remember
all the band settings so you can jump to any band
and just operate.

In any case, you want to know the swr, power output, and current
at the K2. The slightest swr turns down the power of the K2, even
10 feet of coax between the K2 and a tuner may cause power
reduction/high current.
Also, the current limit is adjustable and may be set too low.


  
 3. My last question is about the adding KPA100 option. I wish 
 to keep the
 KAT2 for portable operation. I know the KAT2 and KPA100 
 options are not
 compatible. Can I switch between them in a short amount of 
 time? I have
 heard the top lid can be swapped on the fly to switch between 
 the QRP and
 100 watt modes. Is this an easy thing to do? I might want to 
 use the KAT2 in
 the field and KPA100 at home.

It takes about 2 minutes to switch, you need to remove
and replace 6 screws and swap 3 connectors inside the rig.


  
 Do I have any takers on these questions?
  
 73,
  
 Steve N6VL
  

The K2 with built in tuner is a slick little package,
adding the 100 watt top means a tuner is needed, which 
spoils the slick little package aspect.
Before the K3, I was thinking of mounting the kpa100 with
the 100 watt tuner in one standalone box, that allows the basic
K2 to work as a standalone rig in the field, and as a 100 watt rig
at home, with no changes other than cables between the two boxes.
In either case, you push a button and the antenna is tuned.

Brett
N2DTS

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Re: [Elecraft] Got K2, many questions...

2007-07-11 Thread Don Wilhelm

Steve,

As others have replied, your filters should be re-aligned (particularly 
the narrow ones) if you shift the pitch by 200 Hz.  A 50 Hz shift can 
easily be accomplished without re-adjusting the filters, but the 
response will fall off the edge of the more narrow filters if you go 
further than that.
If you have the KDSP2 installed, you must also change the filter centers 
on the DSP CW filters too or you will hear nothing.


Look for the counter probe or order a replacement kit from Elecraft, 
download Specrtogram 5.17 (the last freeware version) from www.n0ss.net 
and look at my website http://w3fpr.qrpradio.com - article 'Setting the 
K2 Dial Calibration' for information about how to set the filters (the 
filter setting is in 'Part 3' of the article.


2) When the KAT2 (or the KPA100) is installed, the BNC connector on the 
lower rear panel of the K2 is no longer to be used - connecting an 
antenna to that BNC will cause HI CUR warnings because the K2 cannot 
sense the power output and will ramp the power up to maximum.


3) While swapping the top cover for the KPA100 is not a difficult chore, 
if you plan the KPA100 and the KAT100, I would opt for putting them both 
in an external EC2 enclosure.  The KAT100-2 has all the 'hooks' for 
plugging the KPA100 into it's board making the QRP K2 available for 
portable operations by just removing 2 cables.  The coax to the 
KPA100/KAT100 combo connects to the KAT2 ANT1 connector and the KAT2 is 
automatically bypassed.


I too would suggest that you replace the Matchbox with an Elecraft BL1 
or BL2 balun.  The K2 will remember the tunings for each band and you 
can change bands without any manual tuner 'knob twisting'.


73,
Don W3FPR

Steve Kallal wrote:

I just a got second hand K2 today and have some questions. For reference the
SN is 2289 and it has the 2004 mods.
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Re: KX1 build photos

2007-07-11 Thread Steve Westfall
Actually, I had previously seen your pictures after Googling for elecraft kx1 
c56 yesterday, but it was a little too dark to see clearly what you had done.  
Thanks for the additional explanation.  It sounds like your approach of tacking 
the first capacitor lead down to its pin and then working on the other will 
work.

(I feel a bit squeamish about cutting off those capacitor leads instead of 
sticking them through holes, but what the heck!)

Thanks.

Steve

- Original Message 
From: Craig Rairdin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 8:41:59 AM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Re: KX1 build photos

 I was hoping to see a close-up of C56, which has no solder pads 
 and is instead soldered directly to pins 2 and 3 of K1.  

I have page-by-page build photos of my KX1 at:

http://www.craigr.com/coppermine/index.php?cat=23

Select the Elecraft KX1 album, select the second page of photos, and
you'll see Page 34 (C56 Detail). It's a little dark but you can see what I
did. IIRC I tacked one pin down by heating the existing solder then worked
on the other pin. Once I was happy with that I went back to the first pin
and made sure it was adequately soldered.

I also have page-by-page build photos of my K2:

http://www.craigr.com/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=32

And KPA-100

http://www.craigr.com/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=34

And while we're at it, K3 photos:

http://www.craigr.com/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=63

Craig
NZ0R
KX1 #1499
K1 #1966
K2/100 #4941


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[Elecraft] KX2 Sneek Preview [OT]

2007-07-11 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
Pictures of the next Elecraft radio kit have been leaked: 
http://www.shorpy.com/node/1268?size=_original


Woodworking skills essential, not yet supported by Ham Radio Deluxe.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV 


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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Sneek Preview [OT]

2007-07-11 Thread Lyle Johnson

Hello Simon!

Pictures of the next Elecraft radio kit have been leaked: 
http://www.shorpy.com/node/1268?size=_original


Woodworking skills essential, not yet supported by Ham Radio Deluxe.


As you can see, this is a spread spectrum system.  While not using PIN 
diode switching, it has no relays.  And the use of double-cotton-covered 
wire to control the near-field dielectric characteristics around the 
tuned interconnects are important, too...


Lyle

PS - If you can't interface it to HRD via Blue Tooth, it might work 
using the newer Yellow Fang interconnect.


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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Sneek Preview [OT]

2007-07-11 Thread ab7r
This was Lyle's early DSP system (Double (sided) Sand Paper)


-
73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065

On Wed Jul 11 12:59 , Lyle Johnson  sent:

Hello Simon!

 Pictures of the next Elecraft radio kit have been leaked: 
 http://www.shorpy.com/node/1268\?size=_original
 
 Woodworking skills essential, not yet supported by Ham Radio Deluxe.

As you can see, this is a spread spectrum system.  While not using PIN 
diode switching, it has no relays.  And the use of double-cotton-covered 
wire to control the near-field dielectric characteristics around the 
tuned interconnects are important, too...

Lyle

PS - If you can't interface it to HRD via Blue Tooth, it might work 
using the newer Yellow Fang interconnect.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Sneek Preview [OT]

2007-07-11 Thread Bruce Bowman
Boy, K3 shipment better start soon... this is degenerating rapidly! :)

Bruce, NM5B
Santa Fe, NM

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Lyle Johnson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Sneek Preview [OT]


This was Lyle's early DSP system (Double (sided) Sand Paper)


-
73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065

On Wed Jul 11 12:59 , Lyle Johnson  sent:

Hello Simon!

 Pictures of the next Elecraft radio kit have been leaked:
 http://www.shorpy.com/node/1268\?size=_original

 Woodworking skills essential, not yet supported by Ham Radio Deluxe.

As you can see, this is a spread spectrum system.  While not using PIN
diode switching, it has no relays.  And the use of 
double-cotton-covered
wire to control the near-field dielectric characteristics around the
tuned interconnects are important, too...

Lyle

PS - If you can't interface it to HRD via Blue Tooth, it might work
using the newer Yellow Fang interconnect.

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[Elecraft] battery backup, etc. for QRO K2?

2007-07-11 Thread Chris Kantarjiev
I've been running a QRP K2 for about 18 months now. It has the
KBT2, and I've been powering the home station with a 10A linear
PS that's adjusted to 14.2V, to keep the internal gelcell happy.

Now I'm going to add a KPA100/KAT100 in an EC2 (K2 twins!) and
have to upgrade my power setup. My current thinking is to use
the Alinco DM-330 switching PS for space reasons (my shack
shares space with my office :-) 

Since this will require an upgrade in my PowerPole distribution
setup, and because the linear supply will go back out the bench
(leaving some space on the floor), I'm thinking about battery
backup, too. I know that the RigRunner folks make a couple
of battery backup devices 

http://www.powerwerx.com/category.asp?CtgID=3580

and I have to admit that I'm tempted to buy instead of build. 

But I'd like to understand the tradeoffs here. I want to keep
the system voltage high enough to keep the KBT2's battery happy.
I suppose that I could run the system from a large battery and just
trickle/float the battery from a smaller supply ... but that
seems a lot more complicated (and harder to keep the voltage
up for the KBT2). 

What have other people set up along these lines? What website
should I be visiting? Is the super powergate really worth 
double the price? :-)

73 de chris K6DBG

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[Elecraft] Sidetone or zero beat

2007-07-11 Thread Gary D Krause
I was just wondering what people prefer.  Every radio I have owned has used 
sidetone matching.  I've only owned one radio that actually lets you zero beat 
a signal and that is the one I prefer the most since I can zero beat a signal 
a lot quicker that fiddling around trying to match up tones.  I then adjust 
the offset to either side of the carrier to my liking.  Before anyone says it 
just takes practice, I'll have to say that 23 years is probably enough 
practice. ;-)  I can do it, it just takes longer.


I would like to see this as an option on radios.  How about the K3?

Gary, N7HTS



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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Sneek Preview [OT]

2007-07-11 Thread Dan KB6NU

Love those knife switches.

73!

Dan KB6NU
--
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Read my ham radio blog at www.kb6nu.com
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On Jul 11, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote:
Pictures of the next Elecraft radio kit have been leaked: http:// 
www.shorpy.com/node/1268?size=_original


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Simon Brown, HB9DRV

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Re: [Elecraft] battery backup, etc. for QRO K2?

2007-07-11 Thread Phil Kane
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:22:15 -0700 (PDT), Chris Kantarjiev wrote:

What have other people set up along these lines? What website
should I be visiting? Is the super powergate really worth
double the price? :-)

  I run my multi-receiver / multi-transceiver station from a 100
  AH gel-cell float-charged by an allegedly regulated MFJ 45A
  switching supply through an isolation diode (one half of an
  automotive dual-battery isolator connected backwards).

  The steady-state load approaches 7A with all receivers and
  transceivers in squelched/receive mode.  The battery bus
  (load) voltage is 13.4V which means that the battery is near
  the end of its life - it falls to 12.6V under load with the
  charger removed. I plan to replace it with a higher capacity
  battery bank by the end of the summer.

  I would rather set the bus voltage at the recommended 13.8 V
  float voltage. The only problem with this is getting the supply
  to maintain 14.6V. Right now it's at 14.2V and the isolator
  drop is the advertised 0.8V including the 0.2V drop through two
  shunts for measuring the battery and load currents.

  I hesitate to remove the isolation diode lest the supply
  voltage fall below the battery voltage for some reason and
  reverse current flows into the supply regulator.  That can
  happen when adjusting the variable voltage output and it
  destroyed a linear supply that I had many years ago.

  That's how I do it.

--
   73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
   Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402



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[Elecraft] KX1 build tips

2007-07-11 Thread Koaps
Heya All,

Got a don't do as I did for you.

I wanted to use the battery holders for power while
building my KX1, this turned out to be a mistake
because I put the connector on the end without cutting
the wires down to size first. This meant I had extra
wire to stuff under the battery holders at the end of
my build.

I was able to do it by looping the wire, but it would
have been better to just cut it to length as the
manual said to.

Not sure if the lead to my second booboo, but somehow
I ended up stripping the start of the holes for
battery holders on the back plate and ended up having
to buy longer 2-56 screws and some nuts.

So becareful about installing those screws, it doesn't
take much to strip them and even though I made sure as
best as I could that the battery holders where flat
against the backplate, they stripped anyways.

-chris


   

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Re: [Elecraft] battery backup, etc. for QRO K2?

2007-07-11 Thread Leigh L. Klotz, Jr.
I think optimizing for the KBT2 is an unnecessary constraint on your new 
QRO power system.  The charging system for the KBT2 with the resistor is 
an expedient and inexpensive solution, but it isn't optimal itself.


I'd recommend putting a separate connector on as Don suggests, fused 
directly to the battery, and then using your Battery Tender Jr to charge 
it up every now and then.   

The rest of the time, use your regular power; for example, I use a 41AH 
AGM and a Battery Tender (not Jr) for my K2 and 35W HFpacker amp right now.


For 100W SSB, the Gamma Research HPS1a is the tiniest supply you can 
imagine, though reports are you need to go down to 80W for CW.  It's 
small enough to take with you on a trip as well, which isn't something 
you can say about other supplies, even conventional switching supplies.  
(It's smaller than a KX1...)


When my K3 arrives I'll be using the HPS1a at first, but eventually 
upgrading my 40AH AGM battery to something bigger, probably an Optima 
Yellow Top.  I got a 5A solar panel on closeout recently and plan to use 
that to keep it charged during power outages, but use a Battery Tender 
the rest of the time.


Leigh/WA5ZNU


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[Elecraft] Sidetone or zero beat

2007-07-11 Thread Bill Tippett



I can zero beat a signal a lot quicker that fiddling
around trying to match up tones.  I then adjust
the offset to either side of the carrier to my liking.  Before anyone says it
just takes practice, I'll have to say that 23 years is probably enough
practice. ;-)  I can do it, it just takes longer.

You are actually zero-beating the signal
in both cases above.  In one case you are matching
the tones of your CW pitch (e.g. 400 Hz = 400 Hz) and in
the other case the carrier (e.g. 0 Hz = 0 Hz).  Unless
you are tone deaf, it is much faster to zero beat the
pitch since then you are then ready to send.  If you
zero beat the carrier, then you must then manually offset
to the pitch you like before sending, unless your ears
have a good response at 0 Hz!  :-)

For tone deaf folks, Elecraft offers a CW tuning
indicator which may be better for you.

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3FAQ.htm#CW_Spotting

73,  Bill  W4ZV



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Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone or zero beat

2007-07-11 Thread Jack Smith
My Z100 kit is intended to allow fast matching the incoming signal with 
the side tone, through 24 LEDs in a spectrum display, 25 Hz per LED, to 
give you the direction to adjust and the mis-tuning magnitude. 


Jack K8ZOA
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Re: [Elecraft] battery backup, etc. for QRO K2?

2007-07-11 Thread Don Wilhelm

Chris,

The way I do it with my K2 twins is to use a Smartcharger (directly 
connected to the battery terminals - fused of course) to power the base 
K2.  The base K2 always runs on the internal battery.  The high current 
supply is connected to the KPA100/KAT100 combination in the EC2 enclosure.


If you find that you need to purchase a new supply just ot keep the 
voltage up to where the internal battery will be charged, then the 
Smartcharger may be a better alternative.


If you want to see my implementation of the direct battery connection, 
go to my website http://w3fpr.qrpradio.com.


73,
Don W3FPR

Chris Kantarjiev wrote:

I've been running a QRP K2 for about 18 months now. It has the
KBT2, and I've been powering the home station with a 10A linear
PS that's adjusted to 14.2V, to keep the internal gelcell happy.

Now I'm going to add a KPA100/KAT100 in an EC2 (K2 twins!) and
have to upgrade my power setup. My current thinking is to use
the Alinco DM-330 switching PS for space reasons (my shack
shares space with my office :-) 

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[Elecraft] Sidetone or zero beat

2007-07-11 Thread Bill Tippett



I wrote:

 For tone deaf folks, Elecraft offers a CW tuning
indicator which may be better for you.

Actually I short-changed that feature.
Get within ~100 Hz and the K3 automatically
zero beats for you.  From the FAQ:

##Speaking of CW .. 
is there a method for spotting?


There are two methods.

The first is the normal spotting tone that you tune for zero beat. 
TAP the SPOT switch to toggle the tone on and off.


There is also a feature called CWT. You press this button and the 
right half of the S Meter display becomes a zero-center tuning meter. 
You tune the signal in according to this bar graph. When you are 
close (within a hundred Hz or so either way) you can either finish 
tuning yourself, or TAP the SPOT button and voila -- the K3 will tune 
itself to zero beat.   The same feature works in data modes. This is 
great for tuning in PSK31 and TTY signals.


There's a front-panel knob that controls the volume level of the spotting tone.
###

Also here's a fun website to test how well you can
match two 500 Hz tones (like you would when zero-beating
a 500 Hz CW pitch):

http://tonometric.com/adaptivepitch/

73,  Bill  W4ZV


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[Elecraft] K3FAQ updated

2007-07-11 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL

see Accessory Connector

de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] battery backup, etc. for QRO K2?

2007-07-11 Thread Phil Kane
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:22:15 -0700 (PDT), Chris Kantarjiev wrote:

What have other people set up along these lines? What website
should I be visiting? Is the super powergate really worth
double the price? :-)

  I run my multi-receiver / multi-transceiver station from a 100
  AH gel-cell float-charged by an allegedly regulated MFJ 45A
  switching supply through an isolation diode (one half of an
  automotive dual-battery isolator connected backwards).

  The steady-state load approaches 7A with all receivers and
  transceivers in squelched/receive mode.  The battery bus
  (load) voltage is 13.4V which means that the battery is near
  the end of its life - it falls to 12.6V under load with the
  charger removed. I plan to replace it with a higher capacity
  battery bank by the end of the summer.

  I would rather set the bus voltage at the recommended 13.8 V
  float voltage. The only problem with this is getting the supply
  to maintain 14.6V. Right now it's at 14.2V and the isolator
  drop is the advertised 0.8V including the 0.2V drop through two
  shunts for measuring the battery and load currents.

  I hesitate to remove the isolation diode lest the supply
  voltage fall below the battery voltage for some reason and
  reverse current flows into the supply regulator.  That can
  happen when adjusting the variable voltage output and it
  destroyed a linear supply that I had many years ago.

  That's how I do it.

--
   73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
   Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402



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Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone or zero beat

2007-07-11 Thread Gary D Krause
Thanks Bill.  It's good to know that the K3 will do that.  I understand that I 
am zero beating in both cases.  I'm not tone deaf, it's just that it takes me 
longer to match tones.  Usually, by the time I get the tones matched the 
station I wanted to contact is either gone or in a QSO with another station. 
It's much faster and easier with strong signals but, with weaker signals that 
are just above the noise, it tends to be much more difficult.


It's ironic how we have gone to using a visual indicator to zero beat a 
station when so much of ham radio still depends on the ears. :-)


Gary, N7HTS


On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:11:55 -0400
 Bill Tippett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I can zero beat a signal a lot quicker that fiddling
around trying to match up tones.  I then adjust
the offset to either side of the carrier to my liking.  Before anyone says 
it

just takes practice, I'll have to say that 23 years is probably enough
practice. ;-)  I can do it, it just takes longer.

You are actually zero-beating the signal
in both cases above.  In one case you are matching
the tones of your CW pitch (e.g. 400 Hz = 400 Hz) and in
the other case the carrier (e.g. 0 Hz = 0 Hz).  Unless
you are tone deaf, it is much faster to zero beat the
pitch since then you are then ready to send.  If you
zero beat the carrier, then you must then manually offset
to the pitch you like before sending, unless your ears
have a good response at 0 Hz!  :-)

For tone deaf folks, Elecraft offers a CW tuning
indicator which may be better for you.

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3FAQ.htm#CW_Spotting

73,  Bill  W4ZV



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Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone or zero beat

2007-07-11 Thread Ian Stirling
On Wednesday 11 July 2007 14:25:35 Gary D Krause wrote:
 I was just wondering what people prefer.

  I have used audio zero beating since my first station:
separates, an Eddystone EA12 and Yaesu FL-101.
 And I tune my own pianos.

Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962
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Fwd: Re: [Elecraft] battery backup, etc. for QRO K2?

2007-07-11 Thread Alan Biocca
A better technique is to use a power supply that is designed to float 
across and manage batteries. They call them RV Converters. They are 
very cost effective, and at least some of them are very RF quiet. No 
diodes are required, and the supplies are designed to withstand the 
loads and voltages of batteries connected across their output 
terminals. I recently put together such a system and made a web page 
with some of my experience. The one I have is rated at 60 amps and 
together with a 100 amp hour AGM battery powers several rigs and 
occasionally even a solid state amplifier requiring up to 100 amps. 
It has a Charge Wizard to manage the voltage profile to properly 
charge and maintain the battery bank, which a fixed voltage cannot do:


http://www.hsfdg.org/wiki/DcPowerSystem

-- Alan, wb6zqz



--- Original message --


 On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:22:15 -0700 (PDT), Chris Kantarjiev wrote:

 What have other people set up along these lines? What website
 should I be visiting? Is the super powergate really worth
 double the price? :-)


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Re: [Elecraft] Re: radios on networks

2007-07-11 Thread Bill Coleman


On Jun 5, 2007, at 12:57 PM, Brian Lloyd wrote:


The problem is, USB is a bad choice in this situation. It is a  
short-range master-slave system. It is intended to have a single  
master controller control a few attached devices. That works for  
peripherals on your PC but it is not general purpose for our shack.  
We really want something that is peer-to-peer and has no limitations.


FireWire.

Given the cost of serial and the cost of Ethernet I would tend to  
disagree. Other than perhaps some backward compatibility there is  
no real advantage to serial RS-232 over Ethernet and a lot of  
disadvantages.


Yes. But, Ethernet is just the physical layer. What you really need  
is a set of higher-level protocols that run over a high-speed  
connection.


The single-connection aspect of serial ports is the source of the  
limitation. (Although I did work on an multi-connection serial  
protocol while I was at Hayes called AutoStream)


No, that would be a bad decision as it would not make anything any  
better. Ethernet provides multiplexing already. Serial does not.  
Ethernet provides 1000 Mbps. Serial does not. I could go on and on.  
Ethernet-to-serial is just a band-aid. Better to put the ethernet  
controller right on the processor's bus where it belongs then you  
have all the features of Ethernet. And you can still emulate a  
serial interface if you really want to.


Yup. Sounds like a good idea.

To me, though, whether Ethernet, USB or FireWire, you'd get this  
advantage.



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Re: [Elecraft] battery backup, etc. for QRO K2?

2007-07-11 Thread Alan Biocca

Chris et al:

A better technique is to use a power supply that is designed to float 
across and manage batteries. They call them RV Converters. They are 
very cost effective, and at least some of them are very RF quiet. No 
diodes are required, and the supplies are designed to withstand the 
loads and voltages of batteries connected across their output 
terminals. I recently put together such a system and made a web page 
with some of my experience. The one I have is rated at 60 amps and 
together with a 100 amp hour AGM battery powers several rigs and 
occasionally even a solid state amplifier requiring up to 100 amps. 
It has a Charge Wizard to manage the voltage profile to properly 
charge and maintain the battery bank, which a fixed voltage cannot do:


www.hsfdg.org/wiki/DcPowerSystem

-- Alan, wb6zqz



--- Original message --


 On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:22:15 -0700 (PDT), Chris Kantarjiev wrote:

 What have other people set up along these lines? What website
 should I be visiting? Is the super powergate really worth
 double the price?


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RE: [Elecraft] Sidetone or zero beat

2007-07-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
It's a mistake to think that a tone deaf person has any trouble zero
beating. It just isn't so. That's because the frequency of the tones is
immaterial. 

The trick is to know how to hear the beat note. One doesn't care what the
frequency of the signal is or whether it's any where near the sidetone note
frequency. 

Most people I've worked with face-to-face have had a large light bulb go off
over their heads and shouted a huge AHA!!! when they finally heard the
beat note and discovered they needed to complete ignore the sidetone and the
signal when zero beating. 

The problem is that almost always the person doesn't have the volume of the
sidetone and the signal at the same level. They must be at the same level to
produce the loudest beat note. The further off they are the weaker the beat
note becomes until it's lost among the other sidetone and signal note, which
one needs to ignore completely! 

Once they hear the beat note, they just tune in the direction that makes it
decrease in frequency until it drops to a very low, whump-whump-whump
sound and finally stops altogether. That's zero beat. With the 10 Hz tuning
steps of the K2, sometimes one can't find exact zero beat, but a
whump-whump going at, say, five whumps/second means you are only 5 Hz off
of the other station's frequency.

Zero beating has *nothing* to do with matching tones. A musician might say
that at zero beat the tones are matched, but zero beating allows the most
completely tone deaf person to get on frequency without a concern.

BTW, I agree with Gary, N7HTS. I prefer the way we did it year ago, but that
requires a receiver that will produce output when the BFO and carrier are
within a few Hz of each other, at least. Most modern transceivers, including
the Elecraft rigs, have virtually no output within 100 Hz or so of the
carrier frequency, thanks to the excellent I.F. filters they use. That makes
finding zero beat with the sidetone mandatory to avoid an error or 100 Hz or
more in trying to tune onto the other station's frequency. 

Ron AC7AC

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Sidetone or zero beat

2007-07-11 Thread Rick Dettinger

 Most modern transceivers, including
the Elecraft rigs, have virtually no output within 100 Hz or so of the
carrier frequency, thanks to the excellent I.F. filters they use. That makes
finding zero beat with the sidetone mandatory to avoid an error or 100 Hz or
more in trying to tune onto the other station's frequency.

Ron AC7AC
==
My Drake R4C had good IF filters but I could move the filter over to the
carrier frequency with the excellent passband tuning and see the beat note
on the (analog) S meter.  The needle would go from a fast vibration to a
slower one with more movement as I approched zero beat.  No hearing needed.
This was how I set the xtal calibrator to zero beat with WWV.  Then , I
could read a frequency to the nearest khz, something I could only dream of
with older rigs.

73
Rick Dettinger
K7MW

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