Re: [Elecraft] K3 Missing serial numbers
In a recent message, G3SJJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ... I guess 8 of them must be on their way to the VP6 Ducie Island packing depot by now, as all gear is going to be shipped in November according to the VP6 website. Chris G3SJJ Don't you believe it, Chris. The first production run of "special edition" with gold-plated chassis and serial numbers up to 000200 were to have been despatched by the end of July but that didn't happen. I sincerely hope that Ducie Island will have to wait their turn like the rest of us. When all said and done DX-peditions always get RST599 anyway, so it doesn't matter what rig they use ;-) 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: k3 observed in SS
Jeff Stai wrote: K3 #27 was also in the SS CW to the tune of 546 QSOs. I'll post more later, but very briefly: I am totally blown away by the K3. There was a point where I had to separate one signal from another maybe 200Hz or 300Hz away, and call and work him. And I just turned a knob and the other signal went away*. And I worked the desired station like it was almost nothing. Damn. I have never operated a radio that was so easy to tune and isolate a signal. You just center it, and crank down the width, and there it is. Damn. - jeff wk6i *OK, there were some clicks - but they didn't matter! For reference, I have the 8-pole 400Hz and 250Hz filters installed. * What Jeff is referring to is an slight receiver audio artifact that occurs when adjusting the DSP filter passband. It only occurs at certain passband settings, and only during actual adjustment. Lyle (Mr. DSP) and I will be looking into this soon. 73, Wayne N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] k3 observed in SS
K3 #27 was also in the SS CW to the tune of 546 QSOs. I'll post more later, but very briefly: I am totally blown away by the K3. There was a point where I had to separate one signal from another maybe 200Hz or 300Hz away, and call and work him. And I just turned a knob and the other signal went away*. And I worked the desired station like it was almost nothing. Damn. I have never operated a radio that was so easy to tune and isolate a signal. You just center it, and crank down the width, and there it is. Damn. - jeff wk6i *OK, there were some clicks - but they didn't matter! For reference, I have the 8-pole 400Hz and 250Hz filters installed. -- Jeff Stai [EMAIL PROTECTED] Twisted Oak Winery http://www.twistedoak.com/ Winery Blog http://www.elbloggotorcido.com/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sweepstakes
In a message dated 11/4/07 11:48:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I have a K2/100 and a decent antenna. With all due respect, what do you consider a decent antenna? When I > > call someone they almost always respond after the first call. My cw > skills are pretty good I can exchange contest info at around 30wpm if I > have to, although I run between 22 and 25wpm most of the time. I try not > to get distracted, another words I try to stay in front of the radio. So > I feel as if I should be, at least, competitive. You *are* competitive - with stations that are similarly equipped. But, it happens every > > time. I sit down, eagerly awaiting the start of the contest, ready to do > battle, and get slaughtered. Within an hour or so I am hopelessly > behind. After 4 or 5 hours it is a joke. after 8 or 10 hours every > station I work has 600 contacts! Some of these guys are averaging a > contact a minute OVER 8 HOURS! I'm not mad, I am just amazed. My best > contact rate was about 30 an hour and that was only for a couple of > hours.I usually run a contact every 3 or 4 minutes. The question is, what factor limits your QSO rate? In my case, the limiting factors have always been: 1) My signal isn't usually strong enough to hold a frequency and run QSOs. 2) Finding new ones to work by hunt-and-pounce. The folks with 600 QSOs after 10 hours aren't hunting and pouncing much. They're holding a frequency and running QSOs two-a-minute. So after a while I > > get discouraged and start getting up and watching football for a few > minutes or something else and then I really fall behind. I don't mind > not winning, but I am getting clobbered by every one I work by a factor > of 7 or 8. I know what you mean. It's hard to maintain focus when the results are not up to expectations. Perhaps the expectations are unrealistic. I have to wonder, am I really that bad? No. The more-important question is, are you getting better? IOW, are you learning from the experience? One thing I notice about myself is that I'm pretty rusty when the contest starts, and it takes me a while to get up to speed. That means I need to do more "little contests", rather than just SS and FD. I also need to get the computer fully integrated into the shack well before the contest. As it was, all it could do was log and dupe - I did all the sending myself. --- SS is a really strange contest in some ways: 1) Compared to other contests, SS has a very long and complex exchange. Four distinct items to be sent and received besides the callsign. (Used to be five!) 2) It's a US-and-Canada contest (I'm old enough to remember when the Canal Zone was a section!) which makes it very different from DX contests, because you need to work close-in stations as well as far off ones. Where you are in the country can make a difference 3) Unlike almost every other big contest, you can only work a station once, regardless of band. This makes finding new ones harder and harder as the contest goes on. It also means you have to use completely different judgement than other contests, because the station you spend five minutes dragging out of the mud on 80 may be twenty over on 20 in a few hours - or minutes. 73 de Jim, N2EY ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] k3 observed in SS
I worked both N6XI and K2VCO with my K3. I didn't know they were running K3's, but that would explain the vortex of K3 mojo that formed around my antenna during those QSO's. Craig NZ0R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cloud runner Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 4:50 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] k3 observed in SS Worked two known K3's in the sweepstakes. i heard MANY loud signals with nasty clicks or nasty phase noise. I have a pretty good idea what kind of radios I was listeing to. the two K3's i know I worked were in the hands of N6XI and K2VCO. both were loud here. and both were delightefully clean. the cleanest radios on the band. That's a joy to observe 73, Fred - KT5X K2 # 0700 K3 # ??? May 1 order ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 assembly pictures posted
Not sure that would work, unless Elecraft had a different set of stencils for the through-hole user-installed parts. Othewise the solder paste would clog the holes. No - wait, these have to either be wave soldered or hand soldered (toroids), after the reflow. So they have stencils that mask the through holes.. But they can't do wave soldering in combination with reflow (that I've heard of yet). And hand soldering evidently is what is being done now for assembly of through-hole parts. No wonder it's not optimum. As hams, we get the best out of technical user perception, because we actually look to admire the workmanship of radios we buy. Others look at the industrial design for guidance. We look inside. Hey - it's an idea after all. One may always ask. The real trouble(tm) with this approach is that the test eqmt at Elecraft no doubt assumes the RF board is completed. New TE costs $ to produce, and they haven't finished yet with what TE they need for MP. 73, matt, WA6EGJ On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:34:53 -0800, you wrote: >Craig NZ0R wrote: > >"You could avoid the problem by convincing Elecraft to ship a "torroids >(sic) only" version of the kit. It would be the same kit but without the >torroids. You'd have the joy of winding them yourself and installing them on >the board. Of course you wouldn't get the benefit of factory testing of your >finished K3. >:-)" > >- > >And that's a HUGE ISSUE! The correct alignment of those filters requires >equipment not available to most Hams. That's why there are warnings in the >manual NOT TO TOUCH ANY ADJUSTMENTS ON THE BOARDS! All user adjustments are >done in firmware through the front panel controls. > >The issue of soldering SMDs was only part of the rationale behind a "no >solder kit". The other part is that of providing circuits set up at the >Elecraft lab to standards beyond the skills and resources of most Hams in >their home workshops. > >Ron AC7AC > >___ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sweepstakes
W1VE/VE1RM is the guy you're thinking of - www.w1ve.com and the realtime scores site at www.getscores.org 72, geoff - W1OH Ken Alexander wrote: Hi Bob, Contesting is one of the things I love to do that I'm no good at...skiing is another and golfing's on the list too. Competing against yourself is excellent advice that you've already received. There are a few other ways to make contesting more fun: - Join a contest club. You still operate at home on your own equipment, but your score becomes part of an aggregate club score. The big advantage is that it puts you in touch with other contesters in your region from whom you can learn. You'll see contest club scores listed in the results of many contests. - An enormously motivating development is online reporting of your contest score. The computer you use for logging (you are using logging saftware, aren't you?) has to be connected to the internet for this to work. N1MM Logger, and probably several other loggers has a module that you activate that collects your score data from the logger and uploads it automatically to a score reporting website, where your score is listed with all other participants. You can check out the website and see how you're doing relative to everyone else. The first time I tried this I got into a race with a ham who was a few hundred points ahead of me. I tried to catch him and did after a while. Then I could see that he was pouring it on to try and get ahead of me again. We battled for hours for (something like) 763rd place, but it was great fun because he was a reachable target. I looked him up on qrz.com and e-mailed him after the contest. He said he had his eyes on me the whole time and was working hard to stay ahead. We both spent a lot more time in front of the radio and improved our scores a lot. It was also a lot more fun, because after all QSOs = Fun. Having said all this, I'll be darned if I can find the website! It's run by a W1/VE1 and it'll probably come to me before long. Maybe someone else on the list knows and will jump in, too. Hope this is of interest. 73, Ken Alexander VE3HLS --- Bob Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Guys, I, like probably alot of you, have been doing some casual contesting this weekend. Once again, I am amazed at how bad of a contester I am. It isn't my rig or antenna. I have a K2/100 and a decent antenna. When I call someone they almost always respond after the first call. My cw skills are pretty good I can exchange contest info at around 30wpm if I have to, although I run between 22 and 25wpm most of the time. I try not to get distracted, another words I try to stay in front of the radio. So I feel as if I should be, at least, competitive. But, it happens every time. I sit down, eagerly awaiting the start of the contest, ready to do battle, and get slaughtered. Within an hour or so I am hopelessly behind. After 4 or 5 hours it is a joke. after 8 or 10 hours every station I work has 600 contacts! Some of these guys are averaging a contact a minute OVER 8 HOURS! I'm not mad, I am just amazed. My best contact rate was about 30 an hour and that was only for a couple of hours.I usually run a contact every 3 or 4 minutes. So after a while I get discouraged and start getting up and watching football for a few minutes or something else and then I really fall behind. I don't mind not winning, but I am getting clobbered by every one I work by a factor of 7 or 8. I have to wonder, am I really that bad? The funny thing is, by the time the next contest rolls around. I am sitting in front of the radio, eagerly ready to do battle...The lions and Christians come to mind except the Christian weren't willing participants. 73, Bob K6GGO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- * Geoff Allsup, W1OH [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Research Engineer Upper Ocean Processes Group Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Woods Hole, MA, USA * ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Current Draw?
Hi, Ed: The K3 Owner's manual Specifications page has the data: TX: 17-22A typical for K3/100, 3-4A typical for K3/10. RX: 0.9A (subreceiver off). As they say, that's "typical". My K3 draws no more than 17 amps on any band at 100 watts output, well within the normal operating parameters of my Astron 20A (16 amps intermittent, 20 amp peak). Conservative as always, Elecraft does recommend a 25A 13.8 VDC supply. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward R. Breneiser Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 4:00 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Current Draw? Hello all, I ordered my K3 in August. I tried to find the specs on the current draw in Rx and TX, but no joy. Why aren't these specs listed on the data sheet? 72, Ed, WA3WSJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Current Draw?
Hello all, I ordered my K3 in August. I tried to find the specs on the current draw in Rx and TX, but no joy. Why aren't these specs listed on the data sheet? 72, Ed, WA3WSJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] I apologize
I apologize for the duplicate posting ... (:-(( Doddering ole poop ... 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Fw: OT [Elecraft] Sweepstakes
Bob, Let's look at it in perspective ANY contester in ANY contest will always be behind unless he/she's the winner. This is an obvious fact. I've been a high-scoring SS participant in the past, with a Northwest Division first place one year, made a number of DX-pedition trips and a was the 2nd place in the world in an ARRL CW DX contest. Simply put, "contest" with yourself and ignore the rest of the pack. You may be surprised at how well you do. You're an hour into the contest and you hear someone with 100 Q's. Wow, how's he doing so well! Check his count 24 hours later ... you may be surprised. I always have the print-out from the previous contest at hand and check it from time-to- time to see how I'm doing. There are many tiny little things about winning contests that one does't learn overnight and too much to go into here. Sending "N" instead of "9" is an example ... 5NN. Portions of seconds add up to minutes and more Q's. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Fw: OT [Elecraft] Sweepstakes
Bob, Let's look at it in perspective ANY contester in ANY contest will always be behind unless he/she's the winner. This is an obvious fact. I've been a high-scoring SS participant in the past, with a Northwest Division first place one year, made a number of DX-pedition trips and a was the 2nd place in the world in an ARRL CW DX contest. Simply put, "contest" with yourself and ignore the rest of the pack. You may be surprised at how well you do. You're an hour into the contest and you hear someone with 100 Q's. Wow, how's he doing so well! Check his count 24 hours later ... you may be surprised. I always have the print-out from the previous contest at hand and check it from time-to- time to see how I'm doing. There are many tiny little things about winning contests that one does't learn overnight and too much to go into here. Sending "N" instead of "9" is an example ... 5NN. Portions of seconds add up to minutes and more Q's. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 in SS
I haven't participated in the SS for several years, but today I got on for a little while with my K3. What a fantastic radio. Bob, N6CM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 assembly pictures posted
Craig NZ0R wrote: "You could avoid the problem by convincing Elecraft to ship a "torroids (sic) only" version of the kit. It would be the same kit but without the torroids. You'd have the joy of winding them yourself and installing them on the board. Of course you wouldn't get the benefit of factory testing of your finished K3. :-)" - And that's a HUGE ISSUE! The correct alignment of those filters requires equipment not available to most Hams. That's why there are warnings in the manual NOT TO TOUCH ANY ADJUSTMENTS ON THE BOARDS! All user adjustments are done in firmware through the front panel controls. The issue of soldering SMDs was only part of the rationale behind a "no solder kit". The other part is that of providing circuits set up at the Elecraft lab to standards beyond the skills and resources of most Hams in their home workshops. Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 "Messy" Toroids
There's a simple solution to the whole issue of imperfectly aligned toroids on the RF board. Just add the KBPF3 general coverage filter option that lets you SWL with your K3 from 500 kHz to 50 MHz. It's a nice, neat little board that sits right OVER those toroids. When it's installed all you see are a bunch of very neatly laid-down (by robot) SMDs. Check out he KBPF3 manual on the web site for photos. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan Rife Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 1:11 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 assembly pictures posted I was also thinking about the "reckless abandon" look of the mess of torroids on the boards. when I "hand crafted" my K2 I made sure things were nice and neat so I could say with pride that "I built that". If someone looks inside my K3 I'm definitely going to make sure they know that I did not make that mess in there. I suppose it makes no difference in the operation of the radio, but my god, don't those board assemblers have any pride in their work? Wayne, Eric...do you have any control over the quality control coming from the assemblers? Stan Rife W5EWA Tom Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Interesting, but that jumble of toroids on the rf board is just plain ugly. I like 'em neatly lined up like on my K2." I guess it's a matter of taste. I like something that looks like it was crafted with the care of human hands instead of everything being lined up perfectly by a heartless robot. It's amusing to me to think that the sales person that took my order for a K3 could be the same person who may have wound my toroids. It makes me feel like I'm getting a custom radio. I think the K3 looks really beautiful. Mine is a May 1st purchase so it can't be long now. Craig, thanks for the pictures, they provide a nice perspective on things to come. Tom, AK2B ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Missing serial numbers
I guess 8 of them must be on their way to the VP6 Ducie Island packing depot by now, as all gear is going to be shipped in November according to the VP6 website. Chris G3SJJ Don Rasmussen wrote: The last reflector posted K3 serial number was #31. Serial number #25 was the latest reported before that. For some reason the serial number page takes the greatest interest (hits) of the entire wiki. Please email me if you have K3 #26 through #30 or maybe there are some later than #31. http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Serial_Numbers http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page Thanks, Don ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Missing serial numbers
The last reflector posted K3 serial number was #31. Serial number #25 was the latest reported before that. For some reason the serial number page takes the greatest interest (hits) of the entire wiki. Please email me if you have K3 #26 through #30 or maybe there are some later than #31. http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Serial_Numbers http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page Thanks, Don ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] k3 observed in SS
Worked two known K3's in the sweepstakes. i heard MANY loud signals with nasty clicks or nasty phase noise. I have a pretty good idea what kind of radios I was listeing to. the two K3's i know I worked were in the hands of N6XI and K2VCO. both were loud here. and both were delightefully clean. the cleanest radios on the band. That's a joy to observe 73, Fred - KT5X K2 # 0700 K3 # ??? May 1 order ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Connectors
Randy Downs wrote: Anyone know if a product like Deoxit Shield or other similar product could or should be applied to male connector surfaces when assembling the K3? Randy K8RDD Probably Deoxit Gold, which is designed for plated connectors. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Connectors
Anyone know if a product like Deoxit Shield or other similar product could or should be applied to male connector surfaces when assembling the K3? Randy K8RDD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 assembly pictures posted
I noticed it when I took the board out of its bag. I don't think it's assembly; I think it's shipping. They just get smashed by whatever is on top. No damage; they're just disheveled. Like I said I noticed it but then I moved on to the next step and didn't think any more about it. Next time I open the radio I'll line them all up. You could avoid the problem by convincing Elecraft to ship a "torroids only" version of the kit. It would be the same kit but without the torroids. You'd have the joy of winding them yourself and installing them on the board. Of course you wouldn't get the benefit of factory testing of your finished K3. :-) Craig NZ0R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan Rife Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 3:11 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 assembly pictures posted I was also thinking about the "reckless abandon" look of the mess of torroids on the boards. when I "hand crafted" my K2 I made sure things were nice and neat so I could say with pride that "I built that". If someone looks inside my K3 I'm definitely going to make sure they know that I did not make that mess in there. I suppose it makes no difference in the operation of the radio, but my god, don't those board assemblers have any pride in their work? Wayne, Eric...do you have any control over the quality control coming from the assemblers? Stan Rife W5EWA Tom Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Interesting, but that jumble of toroids on the rf board is just plain ugly. I like 'em neatly lined up like on my K2." I guess it's a matter of taste. I like something that looks like it was crafted with the care of human hands instead of everything being lined up perfectly by a heartless robot. It's amusing to me to think that the sales person that took my order for a K3 could be the same person who may have wound my toroids. It makes me feel like I'm getting a custom radio. I think the K3 looks really beautiful. Mine is a May 1st purchase so it can't be long now. Craig, thanks for the pictures, they provide a nice perspective on things to come. Tom, AK2B ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 assembly pictures posted
Great pictures, I enjoyed going over each one in detail as I look forward to building my own K3. As far as how the toroids look, I don't think the electrons really care all that much :) 73 John K7FD Stan Rife <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was also thinking about the "reckless abandon" look of the mess of torroids > on the boards. when I "hand crafted" my K2 I made sure things were nice and > neat so I could say with pride that "I built that". If someone looks inside > my K3 I'm definitely going to make sure they know that I did not make that > mess in there. > > I suppose it makes no difference in the operation of the radio, but my god, > don't those board assemblers have any pride in their work? > > Wayne, Eric...do you have any control over the quality control coming from > the assemblers? > > Stan Rife > W5EWA > > > Tom Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Interesting, but that jumble of toroids on the rf board is just plain > ugly. I like 'em neatly lined up like on my K2." > > I guess it's a matter of taste. I like something that looks like it was > crafted with the care of human hands instead of everything being lined up > perfectly by a heartless robot. It's amusing to me to think that the sales > person that took my order for a K3 could be the same person who may have > wound my toroids. It makes me feel like I'm getting a custom radio. I think > the K3 looks really beautiful. > Mine is a May 1st purchase so it can't be long now. > > Craig, thanks for the pictures, they provide a nice perspective on things to > come. > > Tom, AK2B > > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 assembly pictures posted
I was also thinking about the "reckless abandon" look of the mess of torroids on the boards. when I "hand crafted" my K2 I made sure things were nice and neat so I could say with pride that "I built that". If someone looks inside my K3 I'm definitely going to make sure they know that I did not make that mess in there. I suppose it makes no difference in the operation of the radio, but my god, don't those board assemblers have any pride in their work? Wayne, Eric...do you have any control over the quality control coming from the assemblers? Stan Rife W5EWA Tom Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Interesting, but that jumble of toroids on the rf board is just plain ugly. I like 'em neatly lined up like on my K2." I guess it's a matter of taste. I like something that looks like it was crafted with the care of human hands instead of everything being lined up perfectly by a heartless robot. It's amusing to me to think that the sales person that took my order for a K3 could be the same person who may have wound my toroids. It makes me feel like I'm getting a custom radio. I think the K3 looks really beautiful. Mine is a May 1st purchase so it can't be long now. Craig, thanks for the pictures, they provide a nice perspective on things to come. Tom, AK2B ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re K3 delays
> I reckon 99.9% would have thought much more highly of Elecraft > for a sincere statement like that than the multiple > irregular postings advising of further delays. Overly optimistic maybe, unsincere no. I can understand the frustation and I feel it too; I had hoped to christen my K3 first in the IARU Region 1 FD SSB, then after delays in the WAE SSB, still later in the WAG & CQWW DX/SSB contests both from 4O. But I also understand that it is very, very difficult to put a time line on this kind of stuff. I have this problem at work with software development all the time. Nevertheless, I feel that Elecraft should take their time, get it right and not cut any corners for the sake of speed. vy 73 de toby Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Elecraft] Sweepstakes
Hi Bob, Contesting is one of the things I love to do that I'm no good at...skiing is another and golfing's on the list too. Competing against yourself is excellent advice that you've already received. There are a few other ways to make contesting more fun: - Join a contest club. You still operate at home on your own equipment, but your score becomes part of an aggregate club score. The big advantage is that it puts you in touch with other contesters in your region from whom you can learn. You'll see contest club scores listed in the results of many contests. - An enormously motivating development is online reporting of your contest score. The computer you use for logging (you are using logging saftware, aren't you?) has to be connected to the internet for this to work. N1MM Logger, and probably several other loggers has a module that you activate that collects your score data from the logger and uploads it automatically to a score reporting website, where your score is listed with all other participants. You can check out the website and see how you're doing relative to everyone else. The first time I tried this I got into a race with a ham who was a few hundred points ahead of me. I tried to catch him and did after a while. Then I could see that he was pouring it on to try and get ahead of me again. We battled for hours for (something like) 763rd place, but it was great fun because he was a reachable target. I looked him up on qrz.com and e-mailed him after the contest. He said he had his eyes on me the whole time and was working hard to stay ahead. We both spent a lot more time in front of the radio and improved our scores a lot. It was also a lot more fun, because after all QSOs = Fun. Having said all this, I'll be darned if I can find the website! It's run by a W1/VE1 and it'll probably come to me before long. Maybe someone else on the list knows and will jump in, too. Hope this is of interest. 73, Ken Alexander VE3HLS --- Bob Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I, like probably alot of you, have been doing some > casual contesting > this weekend. Once again, I am amazed at how bad of > a contester I am. It > isn't my rig or antenna. I have a K2/100 and a > decent antenna. When I > call someone they almost always respond after the > first call. My cw > skills are pretty good I can exchange contest info > at around 30wpm if I > have to, although I run between 22 and 25wpm most of > the time. I try not > to get distracted, another words I try to stay in > front of the radio. So > I feel as if I should be, at least, competitive. > But, it happens every > time. I sit down, eagerly awaiting the start of the > contest, ready to do > battle, and get slaughtered. Within an hour or so I > am hopelessly > behind. After 4 or 5 hours it is a joke. after 8 or > 10 hours every > station I work has 600 contacts! Some of these guys > are averaging a > contact a minute OVER 8 HOURS! I'm not mad, I am > just amazed. My best > contact rate was about 30 an hour and that was only > for a couple of > hours.I usually run a contact every 3 or 4 minutes. > So after a while I > get discouraged and start getting up and watching > football for a few > minutes or something else and then I really fall > behind. I don't mind > not winning, but I am getting clobbered by every one > I work by a factor > of 7 or 8. I have to wonder, am I really that bad? > The funny thing is, > by the time the next contest rolls around. I am > sitting in front of the > radio, eagerly ready to do battle...The lions > and Christians come to > mind except the Christian weren't willing > participants. > > 73, > > Bob K6GGO > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft_K3] delivery of K3 to Europe??
Hi, > I will ask what I consider a reasonable question for any NON U.S. hams I just got back home (Munich, Germany) and this is the answer from Lisa to a mail which I sent from Montenegro (slightly shortened): --- > Very soon! I will be emailing you in a few days to confirm your order > and we will ship shortly after you return! > >Lisa > >> >> Greetings from Montenegro. This is just to let you know that I'll be >> back in Munich, Germany, on the the 4th of November. So I'll be ready >> for my K3 kit as soon as you are - seeing as I've been out of touch, >> any idea as to when that might be? --- I had asked Elecraft in September to wait until I was back before shipping. I ordered the K3 within the first 24 hours of the original announcement on the Internet and pre-paid 100%. Hope this helps, vy 73 de toby Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Elecraft] Sweepstakes
Bob It's horses for courses (deliberate pun intended)... I've only entered two contests and came second both times! My friend Tim, G4ARI, won on both occasions. The contest was the RSGB low power contest (http://www.contesting.co.uk/hfcc/rules/rqrp.shtml). We both ran Elecraft K2/10 transceivers to dipole and doublet antennas, the maximum points are gained from working low power and portable stations, so QRPers have a huge advantage. The portable stations are limited on antenna height and supports. I'm not the fastest CW operator around, usually operating 20 - 25 wpm, but if you miss something you can always ask the station to repeat it - they probably need the details recording as accurately as you do. 73 Dave, G4AON ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sweepstakes
Bob: You raise a question that I've thought a lot about. My experience of contesting with a good 100 watt rig and a decent antenna is quite similar to yours. Using a strict "search and pounce" strategy and being very economical about the number of steps that I take for logging (I do not use a computerized log) I can maintain a pretty consistent QSO rate of about 30 per hour, but try as I might I cannot do much better. In a 24 hour contest that works out to 720 QSOs, respectable but not seriously competitive in high/medium power class. Obviously, the big boys are doing something different if they can consistently make 60-100 CW contacts per hour. Please be aware that I'm not knocking them or their strategy, I'm merely looking at what they do differently. The substantive difference between their strategy and yours and mine is that they create a pileup around themselves. The way they do that involves several specifics: 1) They use a computerized log integrated with the rig and keyer so that as much data as possible (e.g., time and frequency) are copied directly from the hardware, and the operate/log procedure has been perfected to work with the minimum number of keystrokes and no duplication of entries. 2) They use the maximum legal power for their class of competition. For example, using 100 Watts in a class that permits 200 watts is only a 3 dB disadvantage, and is just perceptibly weaker for any given QSO. However, across 1000 attempted QSOs, the extra punch of 3 dB will produce more consistent results. 3) They do not use respectable antennas; they use spectacularly big and expensive antennas. The point is that they put out a dominant signal, call CQ, and work off the pileup. They have the steps of making and logging the QSO worked out so that they can get into a rhythm that enables them to work stations just as fast as they hear them. They also have one indispensable skill: Given several simultaneous callers, they are consistently able to identify at least one callsign out of the cacophony of stations trying to call them. Obviously the indispensable key to the strategy is the big antenna that produces the big signal. That is out of reach for most of us, and is the reason why you see a cluster of a few big leaders followed by a very distant pack. Nevertheless, there is a way for us ordinary guys to get a place at the winners table. Go QRP. In my experience, even with a dipole antenna, I can usually sustain a rate a bit above 20 QSOs per hour with QRP, as opposed to 30 per hour with 100 Watts. Sometimes that is enough to win. For example, I won the plaque for US high score in the 1983 ARRL CW DX contest in the QRP class. Even if I don't win, I'll often end up in the top 3 in my class of competition. The reason why the strategy works is that we're competing for relative standing only against other QRPers, and with the very rare exception, QRPers do not put up "big gun" antennas. Think of it as Christians vs. tabby cats. 73, Steve Kercel AA4AK At 11:47 AM 11/4/2007, Bob Fish wrote: Hi Guys, I, like probably alot of you, have been doing some casual contesting this weekend. Once again, I am amazed at how bad of a contester I am. It isn't my rig or antenna. I have a K2/100 and a decent antenna. When I call someone they almost always respond after the first call. My cw skills are pretty good I can exchange contest info at around 30wpm if I have to, although I run between 22 and 25wpm most of the time. I try not to get distracted, another words I try to stay in front of the radio. So I feel as if I should be, at least, competitive. But, it happens every time. I sit down, eagerly awaiting the start of the contest, ready to do battle, and get slaughtered. Within an hour or so I am hopelessly behind. After 4 or 5 hours it is a joke. after 8 or 10 hours every station I work has 600 contacts! Some of these guys are averaging a contact a minute OVER 8 HOURS! I'm not mad, I am just amazed. My best contact rate was about 30 an hour and that was only for a couple of hours.I usually run a contact every 3 or 4 minutes. So after a while I get discouraged and start getting up and watching football for a few minutes or something else and then I really fall behind. I don't mind not winning, but I am getting clobbered by every one I work by a factor of 7 or 8. I have to wonder, am I really that bad? The funny thing is, by the time the next contest rolls around. I am sitting in front of the radio, eagerly ready to do battle...The lions and Christians come to mind except the Christian weren't willing participants. 73, Bob K6GGO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://
Re: [Elecraft] Sweepstakes
Bob; No, you're not that bad. You just need to put things in context. The guys you are hearing, for the most part, are running lots of power (far more than 100 watts) with substantial antenna systems. While you (and I) go from frequency to frequency in a "search and pounce" exercise, their commanding power and locations allows them to sit on a frequency, call CQ and wait for us to come. Their stations are built to do exactly what they are doing, and their skills honed for the exercise. Building such a station is definitely way cool, requiring lots of design savvy and more than a few dollars. Having the right radio makes a big difference, while knowing how to use its features to your advantage takes more than a little effort. Learning the ins and outs of contest software helps quite a bit, as can a good understanding of propagation conditions (and how to apply them). Add in a second radio for SO2R operation (to make use of the time when you aren't in a QSO) and things get really serious quite fast. Another area for advantage is location. A good high station in the clear will beat my valley- floor station almost every time. They just hear more than I do. There are lots of tricks and details that high-level contesters put to their advantage. I really enjoy learning from these folks and apply quite a bit of their knowledge to my own operations. But I don't try to directly compete with them (except in a pileup, of course). There will be QSO totals in the high thousand zone for CW Sweepstakes, I'll settle for about 150. That will be more than I have previously done in CW SS (I'm more serious in phone SS - the number will be at least 500 and a sweep). I compete against my previous records and my friends. Lions and Christians? Hardly. You compete where you want to compete at your own level. That makes it a lot of fun! So, no you aren't bad at all, just slightly overmatched at a high level, but probably exactly where you need to be at your own level. Noting that you are in the Northern California area, I would invite you to a meeting of the Northern California Contest Club so you can meet the wide area of contesters we have here in Northern California. You will find hams of all types, from _really_ serious contesters to good "little pistols" and more than a few "casual contesters." All enjoy contesting, and all can be very helpful for those wishing to improve their skills. Check the NCCC web site at www.nccc.cc for more information. By the way, the K3 was designed to be able to compete in the very environment we have in contesting. It is going through its paces for the first time in CW Sweepstakes, and so far the results are very good. We knew Wayne and Lyle created another winner, now it is being confirmed! On Nov 4, 2007, at 8:47 AM, Bob Fish wrote: Hi Guys, I, like probably alot of you, have been doing some casual contesting this weekend. Once again, I am amazed at how bad of a contester I am. It isn't my rig or antenna. I have a K2/100 and a decent antenna. When I call someone they almost always respond after the first call. My cw skills are pretty good I can exchange contest info at around 30wpm if I have to, although I run between 22 and 25wpm most of the time. I try not to get distracted, another words I try to stay in front of the radio. So I feel as if I should be, at least, competitive. But, it happens every time. I sit down, eagerly awaiting the start of the contest, ready to do battle, and get slaughtered. Within an hour or so I am hopelessly behind. After 4 or 5 hours it is a joke. after 8 or 10 hours every station I work has 600 contacts! Some of these guys are averaging a contact a minute OVER 8 HOURS! I'm not mad, I am just amazed. My best contact rate was about 30 an hour and that was only for a couple of hours.I usually run a contact every 3 or 4 minutes. So after a while I get discouraged and start getting up and watching football for a few minutes or something else and then I really fall behind. I don't mind not winning, but I am getting clobbered by every one I work by a factor of 7 or 8. I have to wonder, am I really that bad? The funny thing is, by the time the next contest rolls around. I am sitting in front of the radio, eagerly ready to do battle...The lions and Christians come to mind except the Christian weren't willing participants. 73, Bob K6GGO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com - Jack Brindle, W6FB - ___
Re: [Elecraft] Sweepstakes
I can copy 15->18wpm pretty well. I have been getting hammered in the SS. I often have to listen to 15 or 20 qso's, to get enough of their info to give them a call, without too much disruption. Sometimes I send QRS and they slow down, other times they do not. So far I have 25 contacts, and a bit over 1000 pts. And I am proud of everyone of those contacts. If you are interested in the advice of someone who has only been in 4 contests, and this is only my 3rd in CW, that is to compete with yourself. Try to better your score from last year, or set a goal and try to attain it. Once you do, take a break for a half hour and get something to eat. Comeback with a new goal and work towards it. This may not lead you to winning the contest, at least in the short term, but it will make the contest enjoyable, which allows you to keep coming back, and to keep learning and getting better. A full deposit of my 2 pennies. - David Wilburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] K4DGW K2 S/N 5982 On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 08:47 -0800, Bob Fish wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I, like probably alot of you, have been doing some casual contesting > this weekend. Once again, I am amazed at how bad of a contester I am. It > isn't my rig or antenna. I have a K2/100 and a decent antenna. When I > call someone they almost always respond after the first call. My cw > skills are pretty good I can exchange contest info at around 30wpm if I > have to, although I run between 22 and 25wpm most of the time. I try not > to get distracted, another words I try to stay in front of the radio. So > I feel as if I should be, at least, competitive. But, it happens every > time. I sit down, eagerly awaiting the start of the contest, ready to do > battle, and get slaughtered. Within an hour or so I am hopelessly > behind. After 4 or 5 hours it is a joke. after 8 or 10 hours every > station I work has 600 contacts! Some of these guys are averaging a > contact a minute OVER 8 HOURS! I'm not mad, I am just amazed. My best > contact rate was about 30 an hour and that was only for a couple of > hours.I usually run a contact every 3 or 4 minutes. So after a while I > get discouraged and start getting up and watching football for a few > minutes or something else and then I really fall behind. I don't mind > not winning, but I am getting clobbered by every one I work by a factor > of 7 or 8. I have to wonder, am I really that bad? The funny thing is, > by the time the next contest rolls around. I am sitting in front of the > radio, eagerly ready to do battle...The lions and Christians come to > mind except the Christian weren't willing participants. > > 73, > > Bob K6GGO > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft_K3] My K3
If that was in response to my posting, please don't misinterpret my meaning. Paying the money up front, ordering on 2-May etc are definitely all my choice and in no way do I consider Elecraft at fault for that. I don't consider them at fault per'se and I certainly haven't been posting 'when will mine ship' type mails, for the same reason you give Tom - I know it will ship when it ships. I just rather wish - I - had thought about it a little more, then I wouldn't be quite so impatient, I would have realised the schedule was rather ambitious and would have accepted it up front. I rather wish they had said in July - looks like we got it wrong and it's not likely to ship in quantity until end of year. My real gripe now/was, people calling those who are getting impatient, names etc. which I think is totally unacceptable. Also, I'm posting here, because I think the Elecraft reflector has had quite enough of that and I don't want to burden Wayne et'al with the thought they need to respond. Finally - and hopefully an end to this thread, I do NOT blame Elecraft for the delays - stuff happens. I DO think they are doing their utmost to get K3s out the door and I DO think that they are a great company and the rig WILL be well worth the wait. Guess I'm a bit like a kid at Christmas! On 4/11/07 14:02, "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: > I wanted a K3 since I first heard of it. One CHOICE was to make an [snip] > I will not blame Elecraft for things outside of their control. They > Tom N2CU <>< -- Life is mostly froth and bubble, Two things stand like stone, Kindness in another's trouble, Courage in your own. -Adam Lindsay Gordon, poet (1833-1870) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Elecraft] 2D Connector Thingies
Hi Everybody! I'm in the process of building a widget to work with my K2 and future K3. I am using the nifty little 2D connectors to tye the case and PCB together like in the K2 and was wondering about the dimensions of this thing. It's made out of 1/4" Sq. bar stock and 1/2" wide. The screw thread is for 4-40 fasteners. The one hole is centered on one side 1/8" by 1/4" and the other two holes are offset from their edge by .15" but spaced 7.5mm apart. Why mix inches with mm? I have no problem with it's application but... I'm really curious. Best regards, Bob K7HBG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 assembly pictures posted
Ooops - cut and paste, got Mike's header on Tom's post. Sorry to all. I think everyone realizes the the intent of the post, I'll do whatever I can to bring human faces to Elecraft as a company. There are kind, good natured people like Lisa Jones working on your custom, hand crafted radio. I think it's an apples to oranges comparison to put K3 against any Yaesu, Icom, Kenwood especially when you are dealing with the first phase of this company's flagship product. You keep on winding and testing Lisa and when you have a K3 ready for me, pick up the phone and give me call. My new radio will have heart. [Elecraft] K3 assembly pictures posted Mike Harris mike.harris at horizon.co.fk Sun Nov 4 08:23:42 EST 2007 Hi Don, My header on your message but I didn't say that. Take it up with Tom AK2B you are quoting his message. Regards, Mike VP8NO - Original Message - From: "Don Rasmussen" To: "Elecraft List" Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 9:30 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 assembly pictures posted | Lisa Jones is NOT a heartless robot! | | If you say so, them's fightin words cousin... | | http://www.elecraft.com/K3/Lisa%20with%20K3%20a%20sm.JPG | | [Elecraft] K3 assembly pictures posted | Mike Harris mike.harris at horizon.co.fk | Sat Nov 3 17:39:59 EST 2007 | | I guess it's a matter of taste. I like something that | looks like it was crafted with the care of human hands | instead of everything being lined up perfectly by a | heartless robot. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Sweepstakes
Hi Guys, I, like probably alot of you, have been doing some casual contesting this weekend. Once again, I am amazed at how bad of a contester I am. It isn't my rig or antenna. I have a K2/100 and a decent antenna. When I call someone they almost always respond after the first call. My cw skills are pretty good I can exchange contest info at around 30wpm if I have to, although I run between 22 and 25wpm most of the time. I try not to get distracted, another words I try to stay in front of the radio. So I feel as if I should be, at least, competitive. But, it happens every time. I sit down, eagerly awaiting the start of the contest, ready to do battle, and get slaughtered. Within an hour or so I am hopelessly behind. After 4 or 5 hours it is a joke. after 8 or 10 hours every station I work has 600 contacts! Some of these guys are averaging a contact a minute OVER 8 HOURS! I'm not mad, I am just amazed. My best contact rate was about 30 an hour and that was only for a couple of hours.I usually run a contact every 3 or 4 minutes. So after a while I get discouraged and start getting up and watching football for a few minutes or something else and then I really fall behind. I don't mind not winning, but I am getting clobbered by every one I work by a factor of 7 or 8. I have to wonder, am I really that bad? The funny thing is, by the time the next contest rolls around. I am sitting in front of the radio, eagerly ready to do battle...The lions and Christians come to mind except the Christian weren't willing participants. 73, Bob K6GGO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Good Times
Let us hope so. Someone might get lucky, I'm in run 2 and I've asked Lisa to hold off any shipment to me until the sub RX module is available. Unlikely that I would be in line even by 12/15 but you never know. I'm not infinitely patient, just realistic. Regards, Mike VP8NO - Original Message - From: "Dale Kretzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 12:23 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Good Times |Comments of K3's on the air, some working one another, and Eric checking | his Planned Shipping Sheet sound to me like the K3 Good Times we've been | anticipating are underway. My only question is, can I order a kit containing | at least one toroid wound by Lisa? Those are going to be collector items in | the future once the robots take over :) |Dale - K6PJV | ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[QRP-L] Re: [Elecraft] Re: For Sale: K2 #6233
My K2 has been sold, thanks for the interest. -- JT Croteau, N1ESE - Manchester, NH (FN42gx) __ QRP-L mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/qrp-l Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Elecraft] [QRP-L] K2 streaming on 7.04
Testing agn today Maybe the last day will see if people like it enough to make worth while maybe will be on now and then or just leave on bench while I build / play / etc with radios Starting about 11 est till when ever I need my feed for real work. webcam stream of K2 on 7.04 or so +/- Will run for at least a few hours, so get on and hear yrself. goto; http://ustream.tv/channel/qrp-cw-704--live best Tom aa2vk PS... K2 #1213 with 700hz filter on to Gap titan ; located Long Island, NY. Computer is a Samsung Q1 tablet, cam is Logictech Notebook cam ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Good Times
Comments of K3's on the air, some working one another, and Eric checking his Planned Shipping Sheet sound to me like the K3 Good Times we've been anticipating are underway. My only question is, can I order a kit containing at least one toroid wound by Lisa? Those are going to be collector items in the future once the robots take over :) Dale - K6PJV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft_K3] My K3
I wanted a K3 since I first heard of it. One CHOICE was to make an INVESTMENT in the company and pay up front to help get them into production. I KNEW none were in production yet and parts were being procured. Working in the electronics industry I know how suppliers can really mess up production by not delivering parts on time. So I CHOSE not to do this and wait until they were in full production. Nobody forced me to place my order then, nor pay up front for it. It would have been my CHOICE. I will not blame Elecraft for things outside of their control. They are doing the best they can. And they will deliver. Making them spend time answering "when will my K3 ship?" emails only takes away from time spent producing the product. I feel their updates are very genuine and to intimate that they are screwing anyone is insane. I will order my K3 at the appropriate time. That is my CHOICE. Those who CHOSE to order before production, knowing full well it would take some time, should be patient with their INVESTMENT. At least we know this investment will be a good one and we'll all get our K3's in good time. My $0.02 and my CHOICE. 73, Tom N2CU <>< Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Elecraft] K3 assembly pictures posted
Hi Don, My header on your message but I didn't say that. Take it up with Tom AK2B you are quoting his message. Regards, Mike VP8NO - Original Message - From: "Don Rasmussen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Elecraft List" Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 9:30 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 assembly pictures posted | Lisa Jones is NOT a heartless robot! | | If you say so, them's fightin words cousin... | | http://www.elecraft.com/K3/Lisa%20with%20K3%20a%20sm.JPG | | [Elecraft] K3 assembly pictures posted | Mike Harris mike.harris at horizon.co.fk | Sat Nov 3 17:39:59 EST 2007 | | I guess it's a matter of taste. I like something that | looks like it was crafted with the care of human hands | instead of everything being lined up perfectly by a | heartless robot. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[QRP-L] For Sale: W1 Wattmeter in Acrylic Case
Selling my Elecraft W1 QRP to 140W HF watt meter. I built it in an acrylic case from W8FGU. It works perfectly and looks great. Picture can be seen here: http://n1ese.qrpradio.com/whatawatt.jpg Have only used it a few times and never with more than 10W, I am selling because I am saving up for a Bird Thruline for the bench as I do have some QRO projects in the works. Price: $120 delivered via Priority Mail anywhere in the US. -- JT Croteau, N1ESE - Manchester, NH (FN42gx) __ QRP-L mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/qrp-l Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Elecraft] K3 and CW SS
Well I've worked a few of you so far in SS on the K3 including Vic K2VCO and Craig AC0DS. I'm pretty sure that conveys some kind of blessing upon you. :-) It's pretty cool to be scanning down the band, hear a CQ SS, hit the SPOT button and the radio just instantly zero-beats. I haven't looked yet to see if there's a way to move the receiver without moving the transmitter. Sometimes people answering my CQ's are far, far, off frequency and it's nice to RIT them into the filter bandwidth at least. One of the things I've noticed is that the rig runs cooler than the K2. With the K2 if I spend an hour or two calling CQ I can hear that little fan wind up and the heat sink gets warm. The K3 is just lightly blowing cool air out the back and you'd never know it if you didn't put your hand back there. The other thing that's odd that I never noticed with the K2 is there's something about the sidetone and the QSK that tricks me. I'll punch a function key in WriteLog to reply to a caller and my brain hears my signal and thinks it's someone else calling the same guy. I don't know if that means the QSK operation is smoother or I'm just tired. Hey there's Craig AC0DS calling CQ on 80m. He just showed up on the frequency I'm sitting on while I type this email. Too bad I've already worked him. :-) Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
