[Elecraft] K1: LCD backlight

2007-11-07 Thread Allan Glasdam

Can anyone give me a hint to make my backlight lighten up ??

I have checked solderings and power from U3 pin 1 and 8.

All looks OK to me. The LCD works perfect, but no light.

Any suggestions ?

Allan
K1 # 2300, 5Q8A
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Re: [Elecraft] RE: K3 - My Story, Part II

2007-11-07 Thread Toby Deinhardt

> I have a rather lengthy evaluation of my K3 kit experience, which I
> deem too long to post here. I will be happy to email it to anyone who
> requests a copy offline.

How long is too lengthy? Maybe you could post it in several mails, 
because I am sure there many, many who would love to read your 
evaluation. If you choose not to, please send me a copy.


> Thanks also for the good-natured jabs at me and my "walkable" cats. I 
> won't get into that now, but that is not as far-fetched as many seem

> to assume.

I had a cat once (she lived to 19), who followed me everywhere and 
expected me to do the same. She even managed to sneak into my car from 
time to time and show up at work, so the concept of going for walks with 
cats is nothing new


vy 73 de toby
--
DD5FZ (ex 4n6fz, dj7mgq, dg5mgq, dd5fz)
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K2/100 #3248
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 #23 Up and Running

2007-11-07 Thread wayne burdick

John,

We respond as quickly as possible to customer calls and email, almost 
always on the same day. But we've had to staff up a bit to handle all 
of the K3-related communications, and getting everyone trained on the 
details takes some time.


I can assure you that your changes will be acknowledged tomorrow 
morning.


73,
Wayne
N6KR

John [K7SVV] wrote:

I placed my order on May 1 and I have no idea where I stand in line 
nor do I have any idea when I will receive my K3.  I talked with them 
yesterday on the phone about changing my order to include the antenna 
tuner and another filter.  They said they would email  a copy of my 
invoice so that I would be certain what was included in my original 
order and I haven't seen or heard from them since then.




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[Elecraft] RE: K3 - My Story, Part II

2007-11-07 Thread WS6X
First, thanks to all who sent congratulatory and encouraging notes. Please
forgive me for not answering personally -- I had an urgent need to lean over
this little black box. . .

Thanks also for the good-natured jabs at me and my "walkable" cats. I won't
get into that now, but that is not as far-fetched as many seem to assume. 

On to the K3. 

My SN 34 is completely assembled, fully tested (passed all with flying
colors) and waiting for me to move it to the operating position. That's
going to wait 'til tomorrow morning.

For those contemplating ordering a K3 kit, or anyone for that matter, I have
a rather lengthy evaluation of my K3 kit experience, which I deem too long
to post here. I will be happy to email it to anyone who requests a copy
offline.

Now I'm off to bed. I gotta' get a good night's sleep so I can put that K3
through it paces tomorrow.

Jim - WS6X
 

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RE: [Elecraft] Re: K3 text-to-terminal details

2007-11-07 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Wayne, 

It would make sense to return that data in a TT; format 
to allow programs that do both control and data modes to separate 
the data.  Assuming the semicolon is either treated as illegal by 
the decoder (so it does not appear in the data stream) or is 
escaped (/;), the TT; structure would be relatively 
easy to handle.  The other option is to return the string in  
arbitrary (8, 10, 16) character blocks that were always null or 
space filled.  That would allow passing he semicolon without any 
special handling. 

I know ... something else to add to the firmware . 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wayne burdick
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 11:57 AM
> To: Joe Subich, W4TV
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Re: K3 text-to-terminal details
> 
> 
> Hi Joe,
> 
> After sending "TT1;", any decoded text (TX or RX, at the K3) is 
> streamed to the terminal without request commands. The user (or 
> software application) can continue to send commands to the radio 
> completely transparent to the text stream as long as the command 
> doesn't return anything (e.g., an "UP;" command to move the VFO one 
> unit, etc.). If the application needs to send command that returns a 
> string, it can optionally send "TT0;" to suspend the stream 
> temporarily, or it can attempt to parse the returned string from the 
> stream.
> 
> We may tweak this behavior in the future. If so, it'll be 
> documented in 
> the K3 Programmer's Reference.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> On Nov 7, 2007, at 8:06 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> 
> >
> > Wayne,
> >
> > How is the data returned if TT1: is enabled?  Is the CAT
> > function disabled and the port turned into a pure terminal
> > output or is the received/decoded data returned in
> > "chunks" within a "TT" report (e.g. TT[a string of N characters];)?
> >
> > 73,
> >
> >... Joe, W4TV
> >
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> wayne burdick
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:13 PM
> >> To: Doug Person
> >> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: An Observation for Struggling
> >> Brass-Pounders
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 6, 2007, at 6:02 PM, Doug Person wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm curious - does the K3 send the decoded text through the serial
> >>> port where it might be displayed in a terminal program?
> >>>
> >>> Doug -- K0DXV
> >>>
> >>
> >> Yes. There's no third-party software support to do this 
> yet, but all
> >> you have to do is run a terminal emulator program on the PC,
> >> then send
> >> "TT1;" to the K3 (this turns on text-to-terminal). You can
> >> receive CW,
> >> FSK, and PSK31 this way. To transmit, you can send small
> >> packets using
> >> the Key command, e.g. "KY CQ DE N6KR K;".
> >>
> >> The K3 Utility program, which includes our download, will 
> include an
> >> ASCII terminal that does all this for you at some point.
> >>
> >> For further details see the K3 Programmer's Reference,
> >> available on our
> >> K3 page.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Wayne
> >> N6KR
> >>
> >>
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[Elecraft] Ordered K3 on eBay ...

2007-11-07 Thread Ken Kopp

Would this be the first case of "K3 scalping"? (:-))

K0PP

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[Elecraft] We're been spoiled!

2007-11-07 Thread Ken Kopp
In thinking about my disappointment at not being able 
to configure the K3"s mic jack to suit my "stable" of 
Icom mics, I lost sight of the fact that neither do other 
manufacturers offer the customer a choice of mic jack 
wiring. (;-)


We're probably too accustomed to the Aptos folks being 
able to meet (almost) everyone's wish-list items, regardless 
of how obscure.  Perhaps I can build an adapter box and 
"sticky-tape" it to the rear of my K3, and a "Y" phono cable 
will solve the CW foot switch / SSB PTT matter.


73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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[Elecraft] K2 to MacLogger Connect?

2007-11-07 Thread Jack Shrawder
While waiting for your K3s, I wonder if anyone could help with a K2  
to MacLogger connect problem?


My K2,  3256 refuses to connect to my MacLogger program. About a  
month ago a connection problem surfaced one day after several years  
of reliable functioning.


The problem symptoms are: When "Radio VFO" box is checked, ML reports  
Not Responding  and Radio… No Data.


The system is:
K2 to Keyspan USA-49WLC  serial to USB,  into a MacBook Pro running  
10.4.10 and MacLogger 4.3.2.b16


First, repair idea was to check  in the K2 menu to ensure the Port is  
"On"; it was. Then, attempted to fix via the following; downloaded  
the latest Keyspan driver (2.4), tried different ports in the Keyspan  
converter, tried different radio setup parameters for the KIO2.  
Checked K2 operation with the KAT100 tuner which runs off the KIO2  
interconnect cable, (KAT100 seems to function normally with the  
KAT100).  Not sure if this a meaningful test of KIO2 or not. Checked  
KIO2 plugs for good solder joints and for opens or shorts at each plug.


Next, tried to a MacLogger connection with my K2 via an older  
PowerBook G4 with MacLogger 4.3.2 and latest Keyspan driver  2.4 with  
same "no go" results.


In desperation, replaced USB cable from computer to Keyspan  
converter--no change.


Can anyone give me anymore tests or things to try to solve this  
problem. I'm stumped at this point.


Thanks for any ideas,

Jack H. Shrawder, KT6JS
So Lake Tahoe, CA
"Success is the Only Option"


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RE: [Elecraft] K3 #23 Up and Running

2007-11-07 Thread Craig Rairdin
Good idea. But do the right thing and put it on eBay. You'll probably get
more for your position in line than it will cost you for the K3, and someone
else will get a shot at this great radio. Since yours is probably going to
ship any day now, you'll probably even have the radio before the auction is
over, so you'll be able to turn it around quickly for the buyer.

Craig
NZ0R
K3/100 #25 <-- worth the wait
K2/100 #4941 <-- worth the wait
K1 #1966 <-- worth the wait
KX1 #1499 <-- worth the wait

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John [K7SVV]
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 #23 Up and Running


Doug,
Well actually I am considering canceling my order. I placed my order

on May 1 and I have no idea where I stand in line nor do I have any idea 
when I will receive my K3.  I talked with them yesterday on the phone about 
changing my order to include the antenna tuner and another filter.  They 
said they would email  a copy of my invoice so that I would be certain what 
was included in my original order and I haven't seen or heard from them 
since then.  The Flex 5000 is looking better all the time.

John   [K7SVV]

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 5:30 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 #23 Up and Running


Should there be anyone out there considering canceling their K3 order
or buying another radio because of slow deliveryDON'T DO IT, you WANT
this radio!! For a variety of reasons it has been 2 weeks since I took 
delivery of
S/N 23 and I just got it operational yesterday. I haven't actually worked 
anyone
yet, I've just been enjoying getting myself familiar with the awesome 
receiver!

The receiver is quiet...my K2 is quiet but the K3 more-so. The AGC is silky 
smooth
both on SSB and CW. Filters are the stock 2.7 kHz SSB filter and the 5 pole 
500
Hz filter for CW and the data modes. These in conjunction with the almost
artifact free DSP  I feel are all I will ever need for my operating style,
though I might eventually spring for the 1.0 kHz filter.

As others have observed, I've yet to find a signal that I can't hear on both

the K2
and K3 but I'm sure that will come in due course. It is a real joy to listen

to signals
totally disappear as you tune across them. Audio quality and strength are 
excellent
though the high frequency content is a little high for my liking. I haven't 
played
with the equalizer yet but I suspect that will solve the problem. Now all I 
need
is a 10 watt QSO before I install the KPA!

As far as the build went it was pretty much uneventful. As always, the 
Elecraft
construction manual was beautifully written and illustrated...follow the 
step-by-step
and you can't go wrong. All of the parts were there and I'm almost to the 
point
where I just won't bother to inventory an Elecraft kit (tnx Christine, 
Lindsay and
Mariana!). The problems that did arise:

1. I was having difficulty mating J70 on the KANT3 board with P70 on the rf
board. Looked at the connector and found that one of the holes was
plugged. An email to Eric brought a quick reply that that was supposed 
to
key the connectors but that the corresponding pin on P70 hadn't been
clipped.

2.) While attaching the front panel to the front panel board it was 
virtually
  impossible to get the mic connector through the corresponding hole
  and keep the rest of the board aligned. The instructions make mention 
of
  this possibility and suggest "wiggling" the board and panel until they
  mate. In this case there just plain wasn't enough wiggle room so I 
used
  a sharp pocket knife to slightly increase the diameter of the hole 
with
  no harm to the panel.

3.) When I reached the "smoke test" stage all was well except that I
  COULDN'T TURN THE POWER OFF with the front panel
  switch despite the fact that it turned it on...very strange! A note
  to K3 support got a quick response suggesting it was probably
  a bent pin on one of the connectors between the FP board and
  the rf board...not so! There was some more back and forth and
  then Wayne asked if I had down-loaded the latest firmware...I
  hadn't but that particular problem was solved by turning the
  sub receiver rf and af pots fully CCW () don't ask me.
  ask Wayne!

  4.) Firmware down load...I purchased the KUSB USB to serial port
   interface and it didn't work with my one year old Dell Dimension
   3000 running XP. A standard RS232 cable direct to the serial
   port worked just fine. I plan to play with the USB configuration
   some more and either get it to work or figure out why it doesn't.

And I assure you that the usual terrific Elecraft support is there!

Doug
W6JD
K2 #1626, K3 #23
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[Elecraft] K3 #23 Up and Running

2007-11-07 Thread Gary Hvizdak
Wed Nov 7 at 23:08:26 EST 2007 John (K7SVV) wrote ...

... I am considering canceling my order.  I placed my order on May 1 and I 
have no idea where I stand in line nor do I have any idea when I will 
receive my K3.  I talked with them yesterday on the phone about changing my 
order to include the antenna tuner and another filter.  They said they would

email a copy of my invoice so that I would be certain what was included in 
my original order and I haven't seen or heard from them since then.  ...

--

Hi John,

I feel your pain except that I placed my order in early July!  At least 
you'll be getting your K3 in time for the holidays, and perhaps even before 
Thanksgiving.

My guess is that they meant that they would be emailing you a copy of 
your invoice just prior to shipping your order to ensure that everything is 
correct.  At least that's what Lisa wrote in a message I received from her a

week ago.

73,
Gary  KI4GGX

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[Elecraft] There -IS- a K3 short-coming, after all .... (:-))

2007-11-07 Thread Ken Kopp
I have a pair of nice "twin" Icom desk mics, a new Heil ProSet 
and a new Heil Gold Line desk mic, all configured for Icom.  My 
K2's configured for Icom.


Yes, I can buy a Kenwood cord for the Gold Line ... about $35.

Perhaps I can build an adapter box and hide it away ... bummer.

Thanks all, and ...

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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RE: [Elecraft] Another "K3 is coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Ed Muns
Another alternative, which I prefer, is to use the 3.5mm (1.8") phone jack
on the rear panel.  There is also a RCA Phono jack for PTT.  In either case,
front or rear panel, you could make a simple adapter cable to go from your
non-Elecraft/non-Kenwood microphones.

73,
Ed - W0YK

> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg
> Sent: Wednesday, 07 November, 2007 20:00
> To: Bruce Beford; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Another "K3 is coming question"
> 
> That's correct.  Since the Kenwood wiring configuration is 
> what was used as a standard with the K2 the configuration was 
> carried over with the K3, but it is not changeable.  The 
> wiring diagram is available in the manual and on the FAQ page.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 73,
> Greg - AB7R
> Whidbey Island WA
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 7:10 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Another "K3 is coming question"
> 
> 
> Ken wrote:
> 
> I assume the microphone connector can be configured to suit 
> different microphones, just like the K2
> 
> 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
> 
> N1RX:
> 
> Actually, No. My understanding is that the K3's microphone 
> connector is configured for the same pinout as Kenwood 
> radios. (Don't ask -me- why.) It cannot be changed. Plan on 
> needing a microphone wired for the Kenwood format.
> 
> -Bruce, N1RX
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Re: [Elecraft] Another "K3 is coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Lyle Johnson
I assume the microphone connector can be configured to suit different 
microphones, just like the K2...


The K3 has fixed wiring rather than a jumper block.  It matches the 
wiring of the MH2, Elecraft's electrically and aesthetically compatible 
microphone.


The pinout of the K3 microphone is consistent with the K2 if the jumpers 
in the K2 are in a row.  It is generally consistent with many Kenwood 
microphones.


A detailed drawing of the K3 mic connector and its pinout are in the FAQ 
< URL:http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3FAQ.htm >, locate the _Interfacing_ 
heading near the top of the page and click on _Mic Diagram (front)_ for 
details.


BACKGROUND

When the K2 was introduced 8 years ago, Elecraft did not offer a 
microphone.  The radio's early adopters were primarily CW operators, 
most of whom seem to own a variety of designer paddles, but don't like 
to admit owning microphones -- having only one is deemed sufficient, and 
that one might have an uncertain pedigree :-)


Making the K2 microphone-agnostic was an appropriate design choice, and 
for a radio that must be hand-built as a kit, it is a reasonable thing 
to allow the builder to configure.


Unfortunately, if the K2 and its mic get separated, you can never really 
be sure if you should connect a microphone configured to be compatible 
with wiring for Icom, Yaesu, Kenwood or some other wiring scheme.  My K2 
is wired differently than the K2's of some of my friends, so they can't 
use my mic on their radios, nor can I use their mics on my K2.


With the MH2, Elecraft has an electrically and aesthetically compatible 
product offering.  Jumper configuration seems less compelling than it 
did. If you have both a K2 and a K3, the K2 is easily wired to match the K3!


I seem to offer long answers to short questions...

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 #23 Up and Running

2007-11-07 Thread John [K7SVV]

Doug,
   Well actually I am considering canceling my order. I placed my order 
on May 1 and I have no idea where I stand in line nor do I have any idea 
when I will receive my K3.  I talked with them yesterday on the phone about 
changing my order to include the antenna tuner and another filter.  They 
said they would email  a copy of my invoice so that I would be certain what 
was included in my original order and I haven't seen or heard from them 
since then.  The Flex 5000 is looking better all the time.


John   [K7SVV]

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 5:30 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 #23 Up and Running


Should there be anyone out there considering canceling their K3 order
or buying another radio because of slow deliveryDON'T DO IT, you WANT
this radio!! For a variety of reasons it has been 2 weeks since I took 
delivery of
S/N 23 and I just got it operational yesterday. I haven't actually worked 
anyone
yet, I've just been enjoying getting myself familiar with the awesome 
receiver!


The receiver is quiet...my K2 is quiet but the K3 more-so. The AGC is silky 
smooth
both on SSB and CW. Filters are the stock 2.7 kHz SSB filter and the 5 pole 
500

Hz filter for CW and the data modes. These in conjunction with the almost
artifact free DSP  I feel are all I will ever need for my operating style,
though I might eventually spring for the 1.0 kHz filter.

As others have observed, I've yet to find a signal that I can't hear on both 
the K2
and K3 but I'm sure that will come in due course. It is a real joy to listen 
to signals
totally disappear as you tune across them. Audio quality and strength are 
excellent
though the high frequency content is a little high for my liking. I haven't 
played
with the equalizer yet but I suspect that will solve the problem. Now all I 
need

is a 10 watt QSO before I install the KPA!

As far as the build went it was pretty much uneventful. As always, the 
Elecraft
construction manual was beautifully written and illustrated...follow the 
step-by-step
and you can't go wrong. All of the parts were there and I'm almost to the 
point
where I just won't bother to inventory an Elecraft kit (tnx Christine, 
Lindsay and

Mariana!). The problems that did arise:

1. I was having difficulty mating J70 on the KANT3 board with P70 on the rf
   board. Looked at the connector and found that one of the holes was
   plugged. An email to Eric brought a quick reply that that was supposed 
to

   key the connectors but that the corresponding pin on P70 hadn't been
   clipped.

2.) While attaching the front panel to the front panel board it was 
virtually

 impossible to get the mic connector through the corresponding hole
 and keep the rest of the board aligned. The instructions make mention 
of

 this possibility and suggest "wiggling" the board and panel until they
 mate. In this case there just plain wasn't enough wiggle room so I 
used
 a sharp pocket knife to slightly increase the diameter of the hole 
with

 no harm to the panel.

3.) When I reached the "smoke test" stage all was well except that I
 COULDN'T TURN THE POWER OFF with the front panel
 switch despite the fact that it turned it on...very strange! A note
 to K3 support got a quick response suggesting it was probably
 a bent pin on one of the connectors between the FP board and
 the rf board...not so! There was some more back and forth and
 then Wayne asked if I had down-loaded the latest firmware...I
 hadn't but that particular problem was solved by turning the
 sub receiver rf and af pots fully CCW () don't ask me.
 ask Wayne!

 4.) Firmware down load...I purchased the KUSB USB to serial port
  interface and it didn't work with my one year old Dell Dimension
  3000 running XP. A standard RS232 cable direct to the serial
  port worked just fine. I plan to play with the USB configuration
  some more and either get it to work or figure out why it doesn't.

And I assure you that the usual terrific Elecraft support is there!

Doug
W6JD
K2 #1626, K3 #23
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RE: [Elecraft] Another "K3 is coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Greg
That's correct.  Since the Kenwood wiring configuration is what was used as
a standard with the K2 the configuration was carried over with the K3, but
it is not changeable.  The wiring diagram is available in the manual and on
the FAQ page.




73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA



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Ken wrote:

I assume the microphone connector can be configured
to suit different microphones, just like the K2

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP

N1RX:

Actually, No. My understanding is that the K3's microphone connector is
configured for the same pinout as Kenwood radios. (Don't ask -me- why.) It
cannot be changed. Plan on needing a microphone wired for the Kenwood
format.

-Bruce, N1RX

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[Elecraft] Another "K3 is coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Bruce Beford
Ken wrote:

I assume the microphone connector can be configured 
to suit different microphones, just like the K2

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP

N1RX:

Actually, No. My understanding is that the K3's microphone connector is
configured for the same pinout as Kenwood radios. (Don't ask -me- why.) It
cannot be changed. Plan on needing a microphone wired for the Kenwood
format.

-Bruce, N1RX

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[Elecraft] Another "K3 is coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Ken Kopp
I assume the microphone connector can be configured 
to suit different microphones, just like the K2


73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
K2 #5665, K3
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[Elecraft] Case for K2?

2007-11-07 Thread Bruce Beford
You're probably taking about the Mountain Ops Tac Pac. They made soft cases
for the K1 and K2. Sadly, they are no longer made.

-Bruce, N1RX

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[Elecraft] 6M mast mounted preamplifier

2007-11-07 Thread Mike Scott
A discussion got started yesterday about mast-mounted preamps on 6M. As I
peruse the available products, it seems that something that integrates with
the K-3 would be a nice Elecraft product offering. Of course all of the
other VHF-UHF bands matched to the transverters would be additional nice
offerings.

Features I would be interested in are (other than low noise):
1) Full QSK T/R switching, ability to listen between dots on CW
2) Power and control via the coax connector, no additional wires
3) Controllable gain from the K3
4) 100 Watt Tx capability
5) Perhaps narrow-band pass-band tuning that tracks the VFO
6) Multi-band options for antennas that are multi-band single feed such as
144-432 MHz.


Mike Scott

Tarzana, CA

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[Elecraft] Case for K2?

2007-11-07 Thread Robert Lupo
I have seen a few k2's up for sale with a soft case to protect it during
travel. Anyone know were I can get one?

KG6SKA

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[Elecraft] K2/100 for sale

2007-11-07 Thread Brent Sutphin
I have my K2/100 for sale.  The K2 serial number is 5439.  It has the 
following options included.




KPA100 one hundred watt PA



KAT100-1 one hundred watt automatic antenna tuner



KSB2 SSB option



Kenwood MC 43 microphone



K160RX 160 meters with receive antenna



KNB2 noise blanker



KAF2 audio filter



This is a complete K2 station; all you need to get on the air is a power 
supply and antenna.  Everything else is included.  The radio includes the 
power cord, all cabling and manuals.  The radio is in excellent condition 
with no scratches, dents or dings and works perfectly. I have built many 
Elecraft kits over the years and the workmanship on this radio is great. 
Over $1500 invested in the K2 and options.  I will ship insured anywhere in 
continental USA for $1250.  I accept Postal Money Orders or certified check 
only.  If interested please contact me via e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] .




73,

Brent  WB4X

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[Elecraft] K3 #23 Up and Running

2007-11-07 Thread w6jd
Should there be anyone out there considering canceling their K3 order
or buying another radio because of slow deliveryDON'T DO IT, you WANT
this radio!! For a variety of reasons it has been 2 weeks since I took delivery 
of 
S/N 23 and I just got it operational yesterday. I haven't actually worked anyone
yet, I've just been enjoying getting myself familiar with the awesome receiver!

The receiver is quiet...my K2 is quiet but the K3 more-so. The AGC is silky 
smooth
both on SSB and CW. Filters are the stock 2.7 kHz SSB filter and the 5 pole 500
Hz filter for CW and the data modes. These in conjunction with the almost
artifact free DSP  I feel are all I will ever need for my operating style, 
though I might eventually spring for the 1.0 kHz filter.

As others have observed, I've yet to find a signal that I can't hear on both 
the K2
and K3 but I'm sure that will come in due course. It is a real joy to listen to 
signals
totally disappear as you tune across them. Audio quality and strength are 
excellent
though the high frequency content is a little high for my liking. I haven't 
played
with the equalizer yet but I suspect that will solve the problem. Now all I need
is a 10 watt QSO before I install the KPA!

As far as the build went it was pretty much uneventful. As always, the Elecraft
construction manual was beautifully written and illustrated...follow the 
step-by-step
and you can't go wrong. All of the parts were there and I'm almost to the point
where I just won't bother to inventory an Elecraft kit (tnx Christine, Lindsay 
and
Mariana!). The problems that did arise:

1. I was having difficulty mating J70 on the KANT3 board with P70 on the rf
board. Looked at the connector and found that one of the holes was
plugged. An email to Eric brought a quick reply that that was supposed to
key the connectors but that the corresponding pin on P70 hadn't been 
clipped.

2.) While attaching the front panel to the front panel board it was virtually
  impossible to get the mic connector through the corresponding hole
  and keep the rest of the board aligned. The instructions make mention of 
  this possibility and suggest "wiggling" the board and panel until they
  mate. In this case there just plain wasn't enough wiggle room so I used
  a sharp pocket knife to slightly increase the diameter of the hole with
  no harm to the panel.

3.) When I reached the "smoke test" stage all was well except that I
  COULDN'T TURN THE POWER OFF with the front panel
  switch despite the fact that it turned it on...very strange! A note
  to K3 support got a quick response suggesting it was probably
  a bent pin on one of the connectors between the FP board and
  the rf board...not so! There was some more back and forth and
  then Wayne asked if I had down-loaded the latest firmware...I
  hadn't but that particular problem was solved by turning the
  sub receiver rf and af pots fully CCW () don't ask me.
  ask Wayne!

  4.) Firmware down load...I purchased the KUSB USB to serial port
   interface and it didn't work with my one year old Dell Dimension
   3000 running XP. A standard RS232 cable direct to the serial
   port worked just fine. I plan to play with the USB configuration
   some more and either get it to work or figure out why it doesn't.

And I assure you that the usual terrific Elecraft support is there!

Doug
W6JD
K2 #1626, K3 #23
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[Elecraft] Delivery and Crabbing

2007-11-07 Thread Thom LaCosta

I was pondering how much the K3 delivery guessing game is like crabbing.

With only one crab trapyou can get a rough idea when your basket 
will be filledas each time you life the trap up, you can

see if there are any crabs in the trap.

When you have more than one trap, it's harder...since you have no 
idea how many crabs, if any, are in the other trap(s).


And so, in the K3 worldare we dealing with tested and aligned 
modules that only go into the kit trap for shipment, or are there two 
trapsone for kits and one for finished units?


Of course around here there are high volume crabberswe use trot 
lineslong lines with bait at intervals...and you simply work your 
way down the line with a net.


Are K3s steamed or boiled?  Does Elecraft have it's own spice mixture 
or do they use off the shelf stuff?


73,
Thom k3hrn

crabs will soon bury down in the mud.may have to earn some money 
erster tonging.


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Internal Battery Option

2007-11-07 Thread gehringc

 Jim Stoneback <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> I'm looking for guidance.  I'd like to take my K2 up to the Skyline Drive 
> (the north end is 7 miles from my QTH), throw a dipole up and work some 
> folks from a scenic location.  What's best?  Installing the internal battery 
> option in my K2 or using an external gel cell?  And how do you recharge a 
> gel cell, anyway?

Jim,
I have two options that I use for my K2 when I work Field Operations.  Both 
have their applications.  When I plan on doing some walking (a mile or two, 
hopefully less but no more) I may use my K2 with the internal battery option.  
I followed the excellent instructions from Don Wilhelm W3FPR on his website 
http://w3fpr.qrpradio.com/index.htm ,and purchased the 1 Amp Smart Charger from 
A&A Engineering  http://www.a-aengineering.com/  .
The Smart Charger is just that, it monitors your batteries status so that it 
does not overcharge.

If I am going to stay near my vehicle then I also have one of the HF Projects 
Power Pack.  K5OOR Virgil O. Stamps has some excellent kits and his 12VDC 10.5 
amp-hour Gel cell project is really nice.  Again it is a smart charging system 
(different circuit and processor but similiar application) with some very nice 
options for the home QTH or Field day.  
http://site.hfprojectsyahoo.com/power_pack  

So depending on your specific application you may find one or both of these 
options acceptable.  The K2 with the internal battery is a little heavy for any 
extended walking but there are times when it is very nice to have all of the 
features in the field.  I love the HF Projects Power Pack very nice at home 
when I have an extended power failure.  Carrying a short distance from the 
truck to a park bench is no problem.

I hope you fid this helpful.

73 K2CG
Chuck G.

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Internal Battery Option

2007-11-07 Thread gehringc

 Jim Stoneback <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> I'm looking for guidance.  I'd like to take my K2 up to the Skyline Drive 
> (the north end is 7 miles from my QTH), throw a dipole up and work some 
> folks from a scenic location.  What's best?  Installing the internal battery 
> option in my K2 or using an external gel cell?  And how do you recharge a 
> gel cell, anyway?

Jim,
I have two options that I use for my K2 when I work Field Operations.  Both 
have their applications.  When I plan on doing some walking (a mile or two, 
hopefully less but no more) I may use my K2 with the internal battery option.  
I followed the excellent instructions from Don Wilhelm W3FPR on his website 
http://w3fpr.qrpradio.com/index.htm ,and purchased the 1 Amp Smart Charger from 
A&A Engineering  http://www.a-aengineering.com/  .
The Smart Charger is just that, it monitors your batteries status so that it 
does not overcharge.

If I am going to stay near my vehicle then I also have one of the HF Projects 
Power Pack.  K5OOR Virgil O. Stamps has some excellent kits and his 12VDC 10.5 
amp-hour Gel cell project is really nice.  Again it is a smart charging system 
(different circuit and processor but similiar application) with some very nice 
options for the home QTH or Field day.  
http://site.hfprojectsyahoo.com/power_pack  

So depending on your specific application you may find one or both of these 
options acceptable.  The K2 with the internal battery is a little heavy for any 
extended walking but there are times when it is very nice to have all of the 
features in the field.  I love the HF Projects Power Pack very nice at home 
when I have an extended power failure.  Carrying a short distance from the 
truck to a park bench is no problem.

I hope you fid this helpful.

73 K2CG
Chuck G.

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[Elecraft] Re: K3 narrow filters

2007-11-07 Thread Ron Foster
Thanks for such a quick reply Wayne. I was headed for the 200. Sounds like 
that's the right choice.
   
  - Ron

wayne burdick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Ron,

I haven't heard any ringing at all in our 200-Hz filter. It's quite a 
bit narrower than the 8-pole 250-Hz filter down to -40 dB or so, and 
it's the filter I used about half the time for CW and nearly all the 
time for narrow data modes. The 8-pole filter has steeper skirts, as 
you'd expect. But the DSP provides the ultimate attenuation anyway.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Internal Battery Option

2007-11-07 Thread Dave G4AON

Jim

I've had the internal battery pack in my K2 almost since day one (back 
in 2001). The whole package feels like it's filled with bricks once you 
put the battery in, it certainly stays where it's placed on the shack 
bench. I've operated QRP CW for a day on the internal pack without 
issues, however gel cells will become downgraded if deeply discharged on 
a regular basis... The good news is they aren't very costly items to 
replace every couple of years or so. With the internal pack you need 
more than the normal 13 to 13.8 Volts from your bench power supply to 
charge it, I tweaked the output voltage on my 3 Amp bench power supply 
to 14.2 Volts. If you use the DSP, SSB and other additions to the K2, 
these will erode the endurance while operating from the internal battery 
pack. The operating time in the KBT2 manual is based on the K2 drawing 
150 mA on receive, mine is reading 200 mA more than that (it includes 
SSB, ATU, 160m and DSP).


An external gel cell would need a dedicated sealed lead acid battery 
charger, they are available from many hobby electronic shops, or there 
was an article in the ARRL hand books showing how to make one.


73 Dave, G4AON
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[Elecraft] Cat walking

2007-11-07 Thread Kevin Rock
I give Sam a walk every now and then.  I carry him, he drools and purrs a lot.  
Seems to work just fine :)
   Kevin.  KD5ONS


>   - Needed a break from the excitement, so took the cats 
> for a short walk, began cooking dinner for my hard-working 
 
Never mind the K3.  How do you walk cats?
 
Ed
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[Elecraft] Re: K3 narrow filters

2007-11-07 Thread wayne burdick

Ron,

I haven't heard any ringing at all in our 200-Hz filter. It's quite a 
bit narrower than the 8-pole 250-Hz filter down to -40 dB or so, and 
it's the filter I used about half the time for CW and nearly all the 
time for narrow data modes. The 8-pole filter has steeper skirts, as 
you'd expect. But the DSP provides the ultimate attenuation anyway.


73,
Wayne
N6KR


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[Elecraft] K3 narrow filters

2007-11-07 Thread Ron Foster
Does anyone have much experience using the 200/250 hz filters? I am trying to 
decide between the two and I'd like to have the performance of the 200 but not 
if it has noticably more ringing than the 250. 
   
   - Ron, W2RIP 
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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] K2 & Navigator Interface

2007-11-07 Thread Stan Rife
I made my own cable. I used the 1/8" stereo plug for the RCV audio, and I 
believe I use a 1/8" mono for the TX audio because I have one of the Heil 
microphone adapter cables that breaks out the Keying and TX audio ckts to 
seperate 1/4" & 1/8" jacks accordingly. Made it pretty simple versus having to 
wire up a mic plug and switch that out all the time. I use a series of 1/8" & 
1/4"  (RadioShack) Y adapter cables and have my Heil headset hooked up all the 
time as well as the audio cables from the Navigator. Actually I have to disco 
the TX audio plug from the headset to eliminate the open microphone on TX while 
using the Navigator.
   
  I used stereo and mono cables from Radio shack that were already made up. I 
just cut them in half and used which ever half had the right connector on it 
and soldered them all in to a DB25 male connector. Turned out kind of 
professional looking. That is probably the expensive route to go, but it still 
didn't cost the 48 bucks that US Interface wants for a made up cable. Since I 
was using the Heil microphone adapter cable, I would have had to modify their 
cable anyway.
   
  Stan Rife
  W5EWA
  

David Wilburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Has anyone used the USInterface.com, Navigator, with the K2?
- 

David Wilburn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K4DGW
K2 S/N 5982


On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 14:03 +0100, Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote:
> FWIW I have a USInterface.com Navigator arriving soon. One USB cable to plug 
> into the PC, the Navigator provides high-quality soundcard, COM ports, FSK, 
> K1EL and nice knobs on the front.
> 
> If you or anyone else is after a good solution then this is worth 
> considering.
> 
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Julian G4ILO" 
> >
> > That's useful, Simon. I've had a few direct replies about the serial
> > cable wiring but what about the audio connections? Would standard
> > 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo jack cables suffice? Is any resistive attenuator
> > needed, such as I've used in the home made cables for most other
> > radios? 
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[Elecraft] New K2/100 For Sale

2007-11-07 Thread dolfindon
Hi All
 
I have a Fully loaded K2/100 for sale. This radio is new built for sale and 
consists of the following:
 
K2 - radio 5000+ s/n
KSSB - sideband adapter
KAF2 - Audio filter
KNB2 - noise blanker
K160RX - 160 meter Receive antenna input
KPA100 -  100 watt amplifier
QRP Lid with KAT2 - 20 watt antenna tuner
Also includes the VCO shield mod kit installed in the K2
 
Includes the very rare Mountain-Ops TacPac carrying case in orange 
 
This radio could be built up as a K2 pair by purchasing a EC2 and mounting the 
KPA100 in the EC2 and installing the QRP lid on the K2
 
I have built all of the Elecraft products many times. This is the 16th K2 I 
gave built
 
$1600 including insured shipping con USA by UPS Check Or money order only
 
Thanks
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] K2 & Navigator Interface

2007-11-07 Thread Stan Rife
Yes David, I just bought that interface and have it working with the K2.
   
  Stan Rife
  W5EWA
  

David Wilburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Has anyone used the USInterface.com, Navigator, with the K2?
- 

David Wilburn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K4DGW
K2 S/N 5982


On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 14:03 +0100, Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote:
> FWIW I have a USInterface.com Navigator arriving soon. One USB cable to plug 
> into the PC, the Navigator provides high-quality soundcard, COM ports, FSK, 
> K1EL and nice knobs on the front.
> 
> If you or anyone else is after a good solution then this is worth 
> considering.
> 
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Julian G4ILO" 
> >
> > That's useful, Simon. I've had a few direct replies about the serial
> > cable wiring but what about the audio connections? Would standard
> > 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo jack cables suffice? Is any resistive attenuator
> > needed, such as I've used in the home made cables for most other
> > radios? 
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[Elecraft] ANN: Searchable Elecraft list archive (view by date or thread)

2007-11-07 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
With assistance from Brian W6FVI of Elecraft, I have set up a threaded
archive of Elecraft mail at mail-archive.org.

Brian has updated the Elecraft lists page to link to the new archive, so
if you just go to Elecraft's site and click on "Mailing Lists" you'll find
it quite easily.  If you're interested in details, read on.  Otherwise,
just try it out.

The other archive sites are all still there and are unaffected by this
change, but this site has a few advantages:

- Speed and availability
- Threaded view (click on it to see what it does)
- Google search: the search box on the list page uses Google
- Message reply button (click and it will open your email tool)
- RSS Feed: If you're using IE7 or Firefox, you'll see an orange wave-like
icon.  Click on it and you can subscribe to the latest posts and see them
in your web browser in a single click.

Problems known:
- The mail-archive.com archive began on November 6th, 2007.  We will try
to import older mail.  When this happens, you'll see it.
- The reply button opens up a web page that appears to have an error
message on it, but if you look at your mail program you'll see that it has
an open window.
- The reply button sends only personal replies; CC the list manually until
we can get this fixed
- There is no way to reply if you don't have an email client.

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Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Bruce Bowman

- Original Message
>
> That being said, the headphone jack in my K2 and many many others I 
> know of has not failed.  Yes, the failure percentage is higher than 
> one might expect, but not all of them fail.  Now, if the jack 
> manufacturer would just use a less brittle material for that 
> activating arm, the entire problem would be solved.

Don-

I'm one of those that had to replace the jack. Any chance we're causing 
it ourselves? e.g. too much soldering heat?

Bruce, NM5B
Santa Fe, NM 


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[Elecraft] [OT] K2 & Navigator Interface

2007-11-07 Thread David Wilburn
Has anyone used the USInterface.com, Navigator, with the K2?
-  

David Wilburn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K4DGW
K2 S/N 5982


On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 14:03 +0100, Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote:
> FWIW I have a USInterface.com Navigator arriving soon. One USB cable to plug 
> into the PC, the Navigator provides high-quality soundcard, COM ports, FSK, 
> K1EL and nice knobs on the front.
> 
> If you or anyone else is after a good solution then this is worth 
> considering.
> 
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Julian G4ILO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > That's useful, Simon. I've had a few direct replies about the serial
> > cable wiring but what about the audio connections? Would standard
> > 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo jack cables suffice? Is any resistive attenuator
> > needed, such as I've used in the home made cables for most other
> > radios? 
> 
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[Elecraft] K2 Sold

2007-11-07 Thread Sid Leben
Thank you for all the responses..

The K2 has been spoken for.

Sid
KC2EE

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[Elecraft] K2 Internal Battery Option

2007-11-07 Thread Jim Stoneback
I'm looking for guidance.  I'd like to take my K2 up to the Skyline Drive 
(the north end is 7 miles from my QTH), throw a dipole up and work some 
folks from a scenic location.  What's best?  Installing the internal battery 
option in my K2 or using an external gel cell?  And how do you recharge a 
gel cell, anyway?


73,

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K2.160.at sn 6263

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Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Robert Tellefsen
Thanks Don
I still have my K2 #12, and the jack is still good in it,
also.  At present it sits to the side, though, as my
newer unit is on the desk on-line for Sweepstakes.
73, Bob N6WG

- Original Message - 
From: "Don Wilhelm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Robert Tellefsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "elecraft" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"


> Bob,
> 
> The problem with the K2 headphone jack has nothing to do with neither 
> mono or stereo nor with the contacts.  There is a built-in independent 
> switch at the back of the jack body whose activating arm  breaks and the 
> the path to the speaker remains open after the headphone plug is 
> removed.  I have done postmortem disassembly of several of those jacks 
> and find the same fault with all of them - the switch activating arm in 
> the jack is a plastic lever and seems brittle to me.
> 
> That being said, the headphone jack in my K2 and many many others I know 
> of has not failed.  Yes, the failure percentage is higher than one might 
> expect, but not all of them fail.  Now, if the jack manufacturer would 
> just use a less brittle material for that activating arm, the entire 
> problem would be solved.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> Robert Tellefsen wrote:
> > Lyle
> > Is that rear panel mic jack a true
> > tip-ring-sleeve jack or a simple mono jack?
> > If simple mono, I'd be uncomfortable
> > putting a stereo plug into it.  Too many
> > folks have had trouble with the K2's
> > headset jack.I'm a bit leery of small
> > jacks in general due to the small leaf
> > springs in them.
> >   
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Don Wilhelm

Bob,

The problem with the K2 headphone jack has nothing to do with neither 
mono or stereo nor with the contacts.  There is a built-in independent 
switch at the back of the jack body whose activating arm  breaks and the 
the path to the speaker remains open after the headphone plug is 
removed.  I have done postmortem disassembly of several of those jacks 
and find the same fault with all of them - the switch activating arm in 
the jack is a plastic lever and seems brittle to me.


That being said, the headphone jack in my K2 and many many others I know 
of has not failed.  Yes, the failure percentage is higher than one might 
expect, but not all of them fail.  Now, if the jack manufacturer would 
just use a less brittle material for that activating arm, the entire 
problem would be solved.


73,
Don W3FPR

Robert Tellefsen wrote:

Lyle
Is that rear panel mic jack a true
tip-ring-sleeve jack or a simple mono jack?
If simple mono, I'd be uncomfortable
putting a stereo plug into it.  Too many
folks have had trouble with the K2's
headset jack.I'm a bit leery of small
jacks in general due to the small leaf
springs in them.
  


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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 text-to-terminal details

2007-11-07 Thread Julian G4ILO
On Nov 7, 2007 5:40 PM, Doug Person <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wayne,
> Thanks for the update on this.  As a semi-retired software developer for
> Big-Blue, I'm thinking it would be fun to write an interface for this in
> the Eclipse platform - which is runnable on almost any OS.
> Doug-- K0DXV

I'm also hacking something together to do this. I may be asking for
guinea pigs to try it, since I don't have an actual K3 to play with.

I'm using Lazarus, a free cross platform clone of Borland Delphi, and
I'll make the source code available under the GPL so it ought to be
fairly easy for anyone who knows the Pascal language to make versions
that run on Linux or Mac OS, or add extra functionality that they feel
is missing.
-- 
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Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Robert Tellefsen
Thanks for the clarification, Lyle.
73, Bob N6WG

- Original Message - 
From: "Lyle Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "elecraft" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"


> > Is that rear panel mic jack a true  tip-ring-sleeve jack?
> 
> Yes, all the 3.5mm jacks in the K3 audio I/O panel are stereo; none are 
> mono.  The Mic jack is a stereo jack wired as mono, using the tip and 
> sleeve and not connecting to the ring.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Lyle kK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Lyle Johnson

Is that rear panel mic jack a true  tip-ring-sleeve jack?


Yes, all the 3.5mm jacks in the K3 audio I/O panel are stereo; none are 
mono.  The Mic jack is a stereo jack wired as mono, using the tip and 
sleeve and not connecting to the ring.


73,

Lyle kK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 text-to-terminal details

2007-11-07 Thread Doug Person

Wayne,
Thanks for the update on this.  As a semi-retired software developer for 
Big-Blue, I'm thinking it would be fun to write an interface for this in 
the Eclipse platform - which is runnable on almost any OS.

Doug-- K0DXV

wayne burdick wrote:

Hi Joe,

After sending "TT1;", any decoded text (TX or RX, at the K3) is 
streamed to the terminal without request commands. The user (or 
software application) can continue to send commands to the radio 
completely transparent to the text stream as long as the command 
doesn't return anything (e.g., an "UP;" command to move the VFO one 
unit, etc.). If the application needs to send command that returns a 
string, it can optionally send "TT0;" to suspend the stream 
temporarily, or it can attempt to parse the returned string from the 
stream.


We may tweak this behavior in the future. If so, it'll be documented 
in the K3 Programmer's Reference.


73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Nov 7, 2007, at 8:06 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:



Wayne,

How is the data returned if TT1: is enabled?  Is the CAT
function disabled and the port turned into a pure terminal
output or is the received/decoded data returned in
"chunks" within a "TT" report (e.g. TT[a string of N characters];)?

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV




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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wayne burdick
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:13 PM
To: Doug Person
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: An Observation for Struggling
Brass-Pounders



On Nov 6, 2007, at 6:02 PM, Doug Person wrote:


I'm curious - does the K3 send the decoded text through the serial
port where it might be displayed in a terminal program?

Doug -- K0DXV



Yes. There's no third-party software support to do this yet, but all
you have to do is run a terminal emulator program on the PC,
then send
"TT1;" to the K3 (this turns on text-to-terminal). You can
receive CW,
FSK, and PSK31 this way. To transmit, you can send small
packets using
the Key command, e.g. "KY CQ DE N6KR K;".

The K3 Utility program, which includes our download, will include an
ASCII terminal that does all this for you at some point.

For further details see the K3 Programmer's Reference,
available on our
K3 page.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] A 'My K3's coming question'

2007-11-07 Thread Vic K2VCO

Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

MK2R+ (and all other microHAM interfaces) do not reflect handshake 
to the application.  If the K3 Utility requires handshake (like 
TenTec) it will not be possible to do firmware updates through 
a microHAM interface.  


It doesn't require handshaking.
--
73,
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Fresno CA
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[Elecraft] Re: K3 text-to-terminal details

2007-11-07 Thread wayne burdick

Hi Joe,

After sending "TT1;", any decoded text (TX or RX, at the K3) is 
streamed to the terminal without request commands. The user (or 
software application) can continue to send commands to the radio 
completely transparent to the text stream as long as the command 
doesn't return anything (e.g., an "UP;" command to move the VFO one 
unit, etc.). If the application needs to send command that returns a 
string, it can optionally send "TT0;" to suspend the stream 
temporarily, or it can attempt to parse the returned string from the 
stream.


We may tweak this behavior in the future. If so, it'll be documented in 
the K3 Programmer's Reference.


73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Nov 7, 2007, at 8:06 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:



Wayne,

How is the data returned if TT1: is enabled?  Is the CAT
function disabled and the port turned into a pure terminal
output or is the received/decoded data returned in
"chunks" within a "TT" report (e.g. TT[a string of N characters];)?

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV




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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wayne burdick
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:13 PM
To: Doug Person
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: An Observation for Struggling
Brass-Pounders



On Nov 6, 2007, at 6:02 PM, Doug Person wrote:


I'm curious - does the K3 send the decoded text through the serial
port where it might be displayed in a terminal program?

Doug -- K0DXV



Yes. There's no third-party software support to do this yet, but all
you have to do is run a terminal emulator program on the PC,
then send
"TT1;" to the K3 (this turns on text-to-terminal). You can
receive CW,
FSK, and PSK31 this way. To transmit, you can send small
packets using
the Key command, e.g. "KY CQ DE N6KR K;".

The K3 Utility program, which includes our download, will include an
ASCII terminal that does all this for you at some point.

For further details see the K3 Programmer's Reference,
available on our
K3 page.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: Re[2]: [Elecraft] OT: Motorola buys Yeasu. Wow!

2007-11-07 Thread Joseph M Grib

On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:22:40 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph M Grib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> >this is
> >a 2% business for major gear.
> 
> I've heard this from other sources and I think it's true. Even if 
> it
> were a 10% business that doesn't give a lot of wiggle room.
> 
> >Why do you think that ham dealers across the US have been folding?
> >Why do you think there's been a lack of dealer and manufacturer 
> presence
> >at hamfests and shows?
> 
> >It's because it's not profitable to do it.
> 
> Yup. But that's not our fault, is it?

Can't argue with that, but again, a lot of people want/need hand holding
which is 
unfortunately also going by the wayside. The big point I'm trying to make
is that
no-one in the biz is making a killing at a store. The "big" perceived
profit isn't there. 
I heard that argument constantly when I was working for them and frankly,
it just 
isn't true. 

> 
> >Do you work for free?
> 
> The days when most people had 9 to 5 M-F jobs and paid overtime for 
> 
> anything
> outside those strictly defined limits are pretty much over. How many 
> 
> hours do
> you think Wayne, Eric and the others have put in on the K3?

Tons of hours, and their product shows it. But we're not talking about a
design
team here, we're talking about a retail merchant. The guy/gal behind the
counter
answering your questions, giving you advice, assisting you with the sale,
and
if necessary, service after the sale. 

Regarding the K3, it's a very impressive piece of equipment I must say
from what I've been reading on the 'net. I have a few K1's and a K2
myself. 
Not for sale any price either. They're great rigs. 

> 
> >What you the consumer are paying for is the service behind the sale 
> and
> >the ability to actually see things before you purchase them.
> 
> Agreed. And the products have to be priced to support that.

No argument here

> 
> >When I was on the other side of the counter, I heard all
> >the time how "I can get it cheaper
> >by the 1-800-XXX number." Then fine and go use the 800 number but 
> when
> >it's needing
> >repairs or you need advice, go call the 800 number and don't come 
> bother
> >me.
> 
> Yup.
> 
> The question is, why do the rigmakers allow their product to be 
> distributed
> that way? Don't they realize that, by doing so, they are killing off 
> 
> their
> distribution network?

Agreed, but like everything else, once a dealer/distributor grasps a
means of selling something
be it the net or a '800' number the others must follow or see their sales
greatly diminish. 
Unfortunately though, there are still a lot of people who flock to shows
and dealerships
to 'see' and 'touch' a piece of equipment before they buy. Why do you
think consumer
electronic shows are so busy? Why do you think car shows are so busy?
People may look
endlessly for a great price, but at some time they want to actually see
the product they're 
buying before they take delivery. I don't care if it's a camera or a
Corvette. People will 
want to see it and touch it if possible before they buy, even if that
purchase is months or
years down the pike. They'll buy magazines (QST) for reviews of equipment
and compare
endlessly the specifications of one piece of gear to another before they
buy. They'll ask
questions and get opinions on reliability and ease of use. Let me tell
you, you're not
going to get that from a shopping cart on a webpage or a 800 number order
taker.

Your local dealer is going to try to keep you, the customer happy. If
there's a known 
problem with a rig, a respectable dealer will tell you up front. If
you're making a mistake 
a respectable dealer will tell you and try to help. If you're not sure
what antennas to 
raise or what to buy, a dealer will try to help you. If you have a issue
with a radio, a
dealer will try to help you with the problem to keep your business. 

A dealer will try to have knowledgeable salespeople working for him/her
to assist 
customers. Anyone can take an order over the phone and punch it into a
computer, but
a salesperson who genuinely wants to help his customer will take the time
to assist in the
sale and necessary accessories, not just be expected to ring you up like
the cashier at 
a WalMart. 

> 
> >You don't walk into your local grocery
> >store and argue
> >with the checkout clerk how cheap you can get milk somewhere else 
> do 
> you?
> 
> >Then why do you do it at a ham store?
> 
> But when you go to buy a car, haggling over the price is often part 
> of 
> the deal -
> even a new car that's in demand. Same for when you buy real estate. 
> Why 
> is it
> OK to haggle for those things but not a ham rig that costs hundreds 
> or 
> nds
> of dollars?

Can't answer that, but there is a point where a car dealer will no longer

'haggle' with you or anyone else because that point of profit is built
into the 
sale and no matter what you do, or try to do, they won't reduce the price
any further. The markup on a car is a 

Re: [Elecraft] K3: An Observation for Struggling Brass-Pounders

2007-11-07 Thread K9ZTV

Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:


Shoot, if these things could be grown in your garden, they'd be illegal!
 



Only if you smoke 'em.

K9ZTV
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[Elecraft] K2 for Sale

2007-11-07 Thread Sid Leben
With the K3 coming, I need to sell my K2/10

K2/10, s/n 3863, with installed:
KAT2
KDSP2
KNB2
KSB2

Perfect codition..
Sale:  $650

Sid Leben  KC2EE

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RE: [Elecraft] A 'My K3's coming question'

2007-11-07 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

> Make sure you do a communications test with the K3 Utility 
> program.  I have an MK2R+  connected to the K3 for rig 
> control but for some reason I cannot do FW updates through  
> it.  I have to disconnect the MK2R+ and connect a serial 
> cable to do updates.

MK2R+ (and all other microHAM interfaces) do not reflect handshake 
to the application.  If the K3 Utility requires handshake (like 
TenTec) it will not be possible to do firmware updates through 
a microHAM interface.  

With all of the interfaces (microKEYER microKEYER II, MK2R+), it 
will be necessary to set the radio type (Radio port in Router) 
to "None" while doing an update to prevent Router's polling from 
interrupting the update. 

73, 

   ... Joe Subich, W4TV 
   microHAM America 
   http://www.microHAM-USA.com 
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg - AB7R
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:03 AM
> To: 'elecraft'; 'Simon Brown ' (HB9DRV)
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A 'My K3's coming question'
> 
> 
> Make sure you do a communications test with the K3 Utility 
> program.  I have an MK2R+  connected to the K3 for rig 
> control but for some reason I cannot do FW updates through  
> it.  I have to disconnect the MK2R+ and connect a serial 
> cable to do updates.  - 73, Greg - 
> AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 K3#0009  On Wed Nov  7  8:03 , 
> "Simon Brown (HB9DRV)"  sent:  >FWIW I have a USInterface.com 
> Navigator arriving soon. One USB cable to plug  >into the PC, 
> the Navigator provides high-quality soundcard, COM ports, 
> FSK,  >K1EL and nice knobs on the front. > >If you or anyone 
> else is after a good solution then this is worth  
> >considering. > >Simon Brown, HB9DRV > >- Original 
> Message -  >From: "Julian G4ILO" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> >> >> That's useful, Simon. I've had a few direct replies 
> about the serial >> cable wiring but what about the audio 
> connections? Would standard >> 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo jack 
> cables suffice? Is any resistive attenuator >> needed, such 
> as I've used in the home made cables for most other >> 
> radios?  > >___ 

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE - non wintel software?

2007-11-07 Thread David Fleming

I can confirm that the router *runs*  on Vista under
VMWare on 10.5. I can create virtual com ports that
are recognized by other apps. However, I don't have
the mh hardware, so I can't confirm it will work with
it. Should though.

David, W4SMT

--- "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> > And hopefully, my microHAM Digikeyer will act as a
> straight through.
> 
> No.  DigiKeyer implements the control port in
> software.  Don (MLDX) 
> and Chen (cocaModem/uH Router) write to the hardware
> specification. 
> There is no virtual serial port interface in any of
> the OSX or 
> LINUX software. 
> 
> In spite promises from several LINUX developers (who
> have been provided 
> both hardware and documentation) nobody has created
> a LINUX or OSX 
> equivalent to Router's virtual serial port
> interface.  Rumor has it that 
> Router will run under VMware or Parallels but I have
> not been able to 
> confirm that.   
> 
> 73, 
> 
>... Joe Subich, W4TV 
>microHAM America 
>http://www.microHAM-USA.com 
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM 
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RE: [Elecraft] K3: An Observation for Struggling Brass-Pounders

2007-11-07 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Wayne, 

How is the data returned if TT1: is enabled?  Is the CAT 
function disabled and the port turned into a pure terminal
output or is the received/decoded data returned in 
"chunks" within a "TT" report (e.g. TT[a string of N characters];)? 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wayne burdick
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:13 PM
> To: Doug Person
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: An Observation for Struggling 
> Brass-Pounders
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 6, 2007, at 6:02 PM, Doug Person wrote:
> 
> > I'm curious - does the K3 send the decoded text through the serial 
> > port where it might be displayed in a terminal program?
> >
> > Doug -- K0DXV
> >
> 
> Yes. There's no third-party software support to do this yet, but all 
> you have to do is run a terminal emulator program on the PC, 
> then send 
> "TT1;" to the K3 (this turns on text-to-terminal). You can 
> receive CW, 
> FSK, and PSK31 this way. To transmit, you can send small 
> packets using 
> the Key command, e.g. "KY CQ DE N6KR K;".
> 
> The K3 Utility program, which includes our download, will include an 
> ASCII terminal that does all this for you at some point.
> 
> For further details see the K3 Programmer's Reference, 
> available on our 
> K3 page.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question DIGI KEYER cable

2007-11-07 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
OK Joe, thanks - when is that cable going to be available?
Sorry, but you dropped yourself in it by mentioning the cable :-)

On 7/11/07 15:46, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:
> When available, the K3 cable should have an RCA plug on the
> 12V input to connect to the accessory output.
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RE: [Elecraft] A 'My K3's coming question'

2007-11-07 Thread Greg - AB7R
Thanks Joe.  I did not know about changing the Radio to none.  I'll try that 
this evening and see how it goes.


-
73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065
K3#0009

On Wed Nov  7 10:56 , "Joe Subich, W4TV"  sent:

>
>> Make sure you do a communications test with the K3 Utility 
>> program.  I have an MK2R+  connected to the K3 for rig 
>> control but for some reason I cannot do FW updates through  
>> it.  I have to disconnect the MK2R+ and connect a serial 
>> cable to do updates.
>
>MK2R+ (and all other microHAM interfaces) do not reflect handshake 
>to the application.  If the K3 Utility requires handshake (like 
>TenTec) it will not be possible to do firmware updates through 
>a microHAM interface.  
>
>With all of the interfaces (microKEYER microKEYER II, MK2R+), it 
>will be necessary to set the radio type (Radio port in Router) 
>to "None" while doing an update to prevent Router's polling from 
>interrupting the update. 
>
>73, 
>
>   ... Joe Subich, W4TV 
>   microHAM America 
>   http://www.microHAM-USA.com 
>   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM 
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]','','','')">[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg - AB7R
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:03 AM
>> To: 'elecraft'; 'Simon Brown ' (HB9DRV)
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A 'My K3's coming question'
>> 
>> 
>> Make sure you do a communications test with the K3 Utility 
>> program.  I have an MK2R+  connected to the K3 for rig 
>> control but for some reason I cannot do FW updates through  
>> it.  I have to disconnect the MK2R+ and connect a serial 
>> cable to do updates.  - 73, Greg - 
>> AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 K3#0009  On Wed Nov  7  8:03 , 
>> "Simon Brown (HB9DRV)"  sent:  >FWIW I have a USInterface.com 
>> Navigator arriving soon. One USB cable to plug  >into the PC, 
>> the Navigator provides high-quality soundcard, COM ports, 
>> FSK,  >K1EL and nice knobs on the front. > >If you or anyone 
>> else is after a good solution then this is worth  
>> >considering. > >Simon Brown, HB9DRV > >- Original 
>> Message -  >From: "Julian G4ILO" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> >> >> That's useful, Simon. I've had a few direct replies 
>> about the serial >> cable wiring but what about the audio 
>> connections? Would standard >> 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo jack 
>> cables suffice? Is any resistive attenuator >> needed, such 
>> as I've used in the home made cables for most other >> 
>> radios?  > >___ 
>


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Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Robert Tellefsen
Lyle
Is that rear panel mic jack a true
tip-ring-sleeve jack or a simple mono jack?
If simple mono, I'd be uncomfortable
putting a stereo plug into it.  Too many
folks have had trouble with the K2's
headset jack.I'm a bit leery of small
jacks in general due to the small leaf
springs in them.
73, Bob N6WG

- Original Message - 
From: "Lyle Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "elecraft" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"


> > Is there a wiring diagram for the "optimum" K3 RS-232 cable anywhere?
> > I know people are saying "use a standard serial cable"...
> 
> For normal use, you just needs pins 2, 3 and 5, plus the shield to the 
> connector shell.
> 
> If you want to support DTR or RTS signaling (for PTT and/or KEY from a 
> logging program, for example) then you also need pins 4 and 7.  The 
> remaining pins (1, 6, 8 and 9) are currently not connected in the K3. 
> They will cause no harm if they are present, and you lose no 
> functionality if they are not.
> 
> > I'd also like to make up audio interface cables.
> 
> 6.5mm (1/4") stereo for front panel headphones, 3.5mm (1/8") stereo for 
> rear panel jacks.  The rear panel mic is mono, using tip and shell, so a 
> 3.5mm mono plug could be used.  I suggest using a 3.5mm stereo connector 
> anyway.
> 
> The rear apron connectors are so-called RCA or phono, at least here in 
> the USA.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Lyle KK7P
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RE: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

> Hmm, made me think, the DIGI KEYER (and microKEYER) requires 
> power if it doesn't come on the CAT/RS232 port.

DigiKeyer powers the USB interface from the computer USB port.
The microcontroller and the radio interface (RS-232/CAT) 
is powered separately (usually from the radio).  With the K3 
you will want to pick up power from the accessory 12V output.

When available, the K3 cable should have an RCA plug on the 
12V input to connect to the accessory output. 

> >> USInterface.com Navigator arriving soon. One USB cable to 
> >> plug into the PC, the Navigator provides high-quality 
> >> soundcard, COM ports, FSK, K1EL and nice knobs on the front.

I should let this pass but I can't ... Navigator is essentially 
a copy of the RigExpert Plus which is available for about 80% 
of the cost of the Navigator (www.rigexpert.net). 

> > Very similar to the latest Microkeyer by the look of it
> > http://www.microham-usa.com/Products/MKII.html

microKEYER II has several advantages (features) not present in 
either RigExpert Plus or Navigator - particularly VOICE operation 
and DVK support. microKEYER is the ONLY interface that can do all 
mode operation (including, according to rumor - not verified - 
WinDRM) without rewiring or using a separate sound card for some 
functions. 

73, 

   ... Joe Subich, W4TV 
   microHAM America 
   http://www.microHAM-USA.com 
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David 
> Ferrington, M0XDF
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 9:35 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"
> 
> 
> Hmm, made me think, the DIGI KEYER (and microKEYER) requires 
> power if it
> doesn't come on the CAT/RS232 port.
> Does the K3 provide power on the RS232 port? I expect not, in 
> which case,
> I'll need to provide power from the K3's 1A Acc 12v output - 
> it is 1A is it
> not?
> 
> 
> On 7/11/07 14:19, "Trevor Smithers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:
> 
> >> USInterface.com Navigator arriving soon. One USB cable to plug
> >> into the PC, the Navigator provides high-quality 
> soundcard, COM ports, FSK,
> >> K1EL and nice knobs on the front.
> > 
> >> If you or anyone else is after a good solution then this is worth
> >> considering.
> > 
> > Very similar to the latest Microkeyer by the look of it
> > http://www.microham-usa.com/Products/MKII.html
> > 
> > 73 to all
> > Trevor  G0KTN
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE - non wintel software?

2007-11-07 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
Obviously I can't speak for all of them, but my KUSB uses the Prolific
chipset. And is 6 feet long.

73, doug

   Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 05:47:28 -0800 (PST)
   From: David Fleming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   Hi David,

   If the microHam Mac drivers allow you to create
   virtual serial ports that are recognized by OS X, then
   the digi keyer should work w/o any need for the KUSB.
   If not, then you'll need the KUSB. I'm not sure what
   chipset the KUSB uses, but there should be OS X
   drivers available. I'm using Keyspan USB to serial
   devices.

   I've tested on 10.3, 10.4 and 10.5. Should work on
   10.2 also. But everyone should upgrade to Leopard
   (10.5). It's way cool.

   David, W4SMT


   --- "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   wrote:

   > YES! - THANK YOU  David / Elecraft.
   > 
   > While I can use the Wintel laptop, having it on OSX
   > will be so much less
   > hassle. I assume that will be 10.4 and up. And
   > hopefully, my microHAM Digi
   > keyer will act as a straight through.
   > (yes I have the KUSB on order).
   > 
   > 
   > On 7/11/07 02:40, "David Fleming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   > sent:
   > 
   > > OS X and Linux versions of the K3 Utility are
   > > currently under development!
   > > 
   > > David, W4SMT
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE - non wintel software?

2007-11-07 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Ah - thanks - so glad I did order the KUSB


On 7/11/07 15:26, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

> 
>> And hopefully, my microHAM Digikeyer will act as a straight through.
> 
> No.  DigiKeyer implements the control port in software.  Don (MLDX)
> and Chen (cocaModem/uH Router) write to the hardware specification.
> There is no virtual serial port interface in any of the OSX or
> LINUX software. 
> 
> In spite promises from several LINUX developers (who have been provided
> both hardware and documentation) nobody has created a LINUX or OSX
> equivalent to Router's virtual serial port interface.  Rumor has it that
> Router will run under VMware or Parallels but I have not been able to
> confirm that.   
> 
> 73, 
> 
>... Joe Subich, W4TV
>microHAM America
>http://www.microHAM-USA.com
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> YES! - THANK YOU  David / Elecraft.
>> 
>> While I can use the Wintel laptop, having it on OSX will be
>> so much less
>> hassle. I assume that will be 10.4 and up. And hopefully, my
>> microHAM Digi
>> keyer will act as a straight through.
>> (yes I have the KUSB on order).
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/11/07 02:40, "David Fleming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:
>> 
>>> OS X and Linux versions of the K3 Utility are
>>> currently under development!
>>> 
>>> David, W4SMT
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW Indicator?

2007-11-07 Thread Greg - AB7R
Ed,

Yes, there's a CWT indicator for CW AND for tuning in RTTY and PSK signals.  
There's 
also an Autotune feature that is active from the SPOT button when CWT is on.  
Lots 
of info on the FAQ page.

-
73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065
K3#0009

On Wed Nov  7  9:38 , "Edward R. Breneiser"  sent:

>Hello all,
>
>Does the K3 have a CW indicator for tuning onto a cw station?
>
>Ed, WA3WSJ
>
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[Elecraft] RE: Elecraft K3 - Serial Numbers

2007-11-07 Thread Don Rasmussen
Thanks Jim,

I've gotten as excited about seeing a new K3 serial
number as getting a new zone in the WPX contest!

One way to pass the time. ;-)

I'll add your info. 


[Elecraft] RE: Elecraft K3 - Serial Numbers
WS6X ws6x at comcast.net 
Wed Nov 7 01:35:07 EST 2007 

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Numbers 
Here's my story:

1.) April 28 - Ordered the K3 (kit, 50% down) at the
opening bell on
Saturday morning. (I ogled the K3 on Friday afternoon
/ evening, but thought
I should "sleep on it" for a few hours.)

Jim - WS6X

Oh yes, thanks, Elecraft, for a very well-crafted
product.

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RE: [Elecraft] RE: Elecraft K3 - Serial Numbers

2007-11-07 Thread Greg - AB7R
You don't.  They walk you.

-
73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065
K3#0009

On Wed Nov  7  3:13 , "Ed Muns"  sent:

>>  - Needed a break from the excitement, so took the cats 
>> for a short walk, began cooking dinner for my hard-working 
>
>Never mind the K3.  How do you walk cats?
>
>Ed
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Re: [Elecraft] A 'My K3's coming question'

2007-11-07 Thread Greg - AB7R
Make sure you do a communications test with the K3 Utility program.  I have an 
MK2R+ 
connected to the K3 for rig control but for some reason I cannot do FW updates 
through 
it.  I have to disconnect the MK2R+ and connect a serial cable to do updates.

-
73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065
K3#0009

On Wed Nov  7  8:03 , "Simon Brown (HB9DRV)"  sent:

>FWIW I have a USInterface.com Navigator arriving soon. One USB cable to plug 
>into the PC, the Navigator provides high-quality soundcard, COM ports, FSK, 
>K1EL and nice knobs on the front.
>
>If you or anyone else is after a good solution then this is worth 
>considering.
>
>Simon Brown, HB9DRV
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Julian G4ILO" [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> That's useful, Simon. I've had a few direct replies about the serial
>> cable wiring but what about the audio connections? Would standard
>> 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo jack cables suffice? Is any resistive attenuator
>> needed, such as I've used in the home made cables for most other
>> radios? 
>
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE - non wintel software?

2007-11-07 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

> And hopefully, my microHAM Digikeyer will act as a straight through.

No.  DigiKeyer implements the control port in software.  Don (MLDX) 
and Chen (cocaModem/uH Router) write to the hardware specification. 
There is no virtual serial port interface in any of the OSX or 
LINUX software. 

In spite promises from several LINUX developers (who have been provided 
both hardware and documentation) nobody has created a LINUX or OSX 
equivalent to Router's virtual serial port interface.  Rumor has it that 
Router will run under VMware or Parallels but I have not been able to 
confirm that.   

73, 

   ... Joe Subich, W4TV 
   microHAM America 
   http://www.microHAM-USA.com 
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David 
> Ferrington, M0XDF
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 2:59 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE - non wintel software?
> 
> 
> YES! - THANK YOU  David / Elecraft.
> 
> While I can use the Wintel laptop, having it on OSX will be 
> so much less
> hassle. I assume that will be 10.4 and up. And hopefully, my 
> microHAM Digi
> keyer will act as a straight through.
> (yes I have the KUSB on order).
> 
> 
> On 7/11/07 02:40, "David Fleming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:
> 
> > OS X and Linux versions of the K3 Utility are
> > currently under development!
> > 
> > David, W4SMT
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RE: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question DIGI KEYER cable

2007-11-07 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

> OK Joe, thanks - when is that cable going to be available?
> Sorry, but you dropped yourself in it by mentioning the cable :-)

I'm expecting cables when I return from Thanksgiving holiday. 

Specifically, OM7ZZ is waiting on one of the VP6D units to 
prepare cables.  He has been through three or four different 
designs as the I/O information has changed since the initial 
announcement.  Rather than build cables on speculation and 
have something change, he's decided to make sure they will 
work when the group gets to VP6D! 

73, 

   ... Joe Subich, W4TV 
   microHAM America 
   http://www.microHAM-USA.com 
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  



> -Original Message-
> From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:55 AM
> To: Joe Subich, W4TV; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question DIGI KEYER cable
> 
> 
> OK Joe, thanks - when is that cable going to be available?
> Sorry, but you dropped yourself in it by mentioning the cable :-)
> 
> On 7/11/07 15:46, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:
> > When available, the K3 cable should have an RCA plug on the
> > 12V input to connect to the accessory output.
> -- 
> God gives every bird his worm, but he does not throw it into the nest.
> -Swedish proverb 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW Indicator?

2007-11-07 Thread Lyle Johnson

Does the K3 have a CW indicator for tuning onto a cw station?


The answer is found here
< URL:http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3FAQ.htm#CW%20Spotting > in the FAQ.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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RE: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Ed Muns
> That's useful, Simon. I've had a few direct replies about the 
> serial cable wiring but what about the audio connections? 
> Would standard 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo jack cables suffice?

Yes, just standard 3.5mm stereo cables.  LINE IN and MIC are mono, but of
course a stereo cable will work fine there also.

> Is any resistive attenuator needed, such as I've used in the 
> home made cables for most other radios?

No.

73,
Ed - W0YK

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Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
Mine is 6 feet long, 1.8m plus.

73, doug

   Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:06:37 -0800
   From: Lyle Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   > Is the KUSB a USB cable to go from the K3 to my computer's USB port... 

   Yes, it is a short cable that is USB on the end that plugs into your 
   computer and RSA232 on the end that plugs into your K3.  You may need a 
   standard 9-pin male-to-female RS232 cable to reach between the K3 and 
   your computer if they aren't very close together.  Sorry, I don't know 
   the exact length of the KUSB, I think it is a bit less than 60 cm.

   73,

   Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Tippett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


"USB Audio Codec
Standard Microsoft Audio Device
   2 channel Output DAC 16 bit
   2 channel Input ADC 16 bit
   Codec operates at sampling rates up to 48,000 Hz*
   *Most Amateur software applications set the sampling rate to 
11,025 Hz."


http://usinterface.com/Navigator.html

   Sounds like a nice product overall but the soundcard
will not be enough for decent SDR/DSP processing on the
K3's IF output.  You really want 24 bits at 96 kHz minimum
and preferably 192 kHz.



For my SDR software I have the Edirol FA-66, but please don't ask me about 
the SDR console I'll be writing in 2008 / 2009!


Simon 'code-free' HB9DRV 


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[Elecraft] K3 CW Indicator?

2007-11-07 Thread Edward R. Breneiser
Hello all,

Does the K3 have a CW indicator for tuning onto a cw station?

Ed, WA3WSJ


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Re: Re[2]: [Elecraft] OT: Motorola buys Yeasu. Wow!

2007-11-07 Thread n2ey

-Original Message-
From: Joseph M Grib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


this is
a 2% business for major gear.


I've heard this from other sources and I think it's true. Even if it
were a 10% business that doesn't give a lot of wiggle room.


Why do you think that ham dealers across the US have been folding?
Why do you think there's been a lack of dealer and manufacturer 

presence

at hamfests and shows?



It's because it's not profitable to do it.


Yup. But that's not our fault, is it?


Do you work for free?


The days when most people had 9 to 5 M-F jobs and paid overtime for 
anything
outside those strictly defined limits are pretty much over. How many 
hours do

you think Wayne, Eric and the others have put in on the K3?


What you the consumer are paying for is the service behind the sale and
the ability to actually see things before you purchase them.


Agreed. And the products have to be priced to support that.


When I was on the other side of the counter, I heard all
the time how "I can get it cheaper
by the 1-800-XXX number." Then fine and go use the 800 number but when
it's needing
repairs or you need advice, go call the 800 number and don't come 

bother

me.


Yup.

The question is, why do the rigmakers allow their product to be 
distributed
that way? Don't they realize that, by doing so, they are killing off 
their

distribution network?


You don't walk into your local grocery
store and argue
with the checkout clerk how cheap you can get milk somewhere else do 

you?


Then why do you do it at a ham store?


But when you go to buy a car, haggling over the price is often part of 
the deal -
even a new car that's in demand. Same for when you buy real estate. Why 
is it
OK to haggle for those things but not a ham rig that costs hundreds or 
thousands

of dollars?

One thing that has kept me homebrewing and Elecrafting for many years 
is the
ads in ham magazines that show a rig but don't show a price. Sorry, but 
how

much it costs is an important specification!


Sure there's tons of places to get stuff on the internet and I'm sure a
lot cheaper, but if the ham
community wants ham stores to be around and not everthing to be either 

a

800 number or on
the internet, then you will have to support your local store and local
dealers, or they'll disappear.


Or perhaps times have changed...

For a very long time, Heathkit was only available by mail order. The 
price of a
 Heathkit was what it said in the catalog and in the magazine ads. 
Unless you
lived in MI you didn't pay sales tax but you did pay shipping. Heath 
eventually

opened retail stores, but they didn't last too long.

Ten Tec is only available factory-direct. The prices are clearly shown 
and the
same for everybody. Service is reportedly excellent. I understand that 
once

upon a time TT was available through dealers, but that ended years ago.

And of course Elecraft offers excellent service and advice, spare parts 
and

direct advice from all levels of the company.

This isn't just happening with ham rigs. Want parts? There's Digi-Key 
(guess where
the name comes from?) Mouser, Dan's Small Parts and many others. Wire 
and

cable? The Wireman and many others.

Last time I needed to fix an appliance (old Maytag D8300 dryer - yes, 
even Maytags

break) I got the parts online. Ordered Saturday, at my door Tuesday.

A big part of what makes these things possible are:

- email and the internet
- modern ham gear is smaller, lighter and more reliable than the old 
stuff

- there are many shipping options, and with the smaller/lighter ham rigs
the cost is not *too* bad.

Perhaps the day of the distributor is ending, and 
factory-direct/internet sales

is the new paradigm for a lot of things.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - 
http://mail.aol.com

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Re: [Elecraft] A 'My K3's coming question'

2007-11-07 Thread Greg - AB7R
Trevor,

The accessory power connection on the K3 is rated at .5-Amp, not 1-Amp.

-
73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065
K3#0009

On Wed Nov  7  9:34 , "David Ferrington, M0XDF"  sent:

>Hmm, made me think, the DIGI KEYER (and microKEYER) requires power if it
>doesn't come on the CAT/RS232 port.
>Does the K3 provide power on the RS232 port? I expect not, in which case,
>I'll need to provide power from the K3's 1A Acc 12v output - it is 1A is it
>not?
>
>
>On 7/11/07 14:19, "Trevor Smithers" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:
>
>>> USInterface.com Navigator arriving soon. One USB cable to plug
>>> into the PC, the Navigator provides high-quality soundcard, COM ports, FSK,
>>> K1EL and nice knobs on the front.
>> 
>>> If you or anyone else is after a good solution then this is worth
>>> considering.
>> 
>> Very similar to the latest Microkeyer by the look of it
>> http://www.microham-usa.com/Products/MKII.html
>> 
>> 73 to all
>> Trevor  G0KTN
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Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Lyle Johnson

Is there a wiring diagram for the "optimum" K3 RS-232 cable anywhere?
I know people are saying "use a standard serial cable"...


For normal use, you just needs pins 2, 3 and 5, plus the shield to the 
connector shell.


If you want to support DTR or RTS signaling (for PTT and/or KEY from a 
logging program, for example) then you also need pins 4 and 7.  The 
remaining pins (1, 6, 8 and 9) are currently not connected in the K3. 
They will cause no harm if they are present, and you lose no 
functionality if they are not.



I'd also like to make up audio interface cables.


6.5mm (1/4") stereo for front panel headphones, 3.5mm (1/8") stereo for 
rear panel jacks.  The rear panel mic is mono, using tip and shell, so a 
3.5mm mono plug could be used.  I suggest using a 3.5mm stereo connector 
anyway.


The rear apron connectors are so-called RCA or phono, at least here in 
the USA.


73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Tom Hammond

The length is closer to 60 INCHES... !!!  Actually, closer to 72" long!

Tom   N0SS



Is the KUSB a USB cable to go from the K3 to my computer's USB port...


Yes, it is a short cable that is USB on the end that plugs into your 
computer and RSA232 on the end that plugs into your K3.  You may need 
a standard 9-pin male-to-female RS232 cable to reach between the K3 
and your computer if they aren't very close together.  Sorry, I don't 
know the exact length of the KUSB, I think it is a bit less than 60 cm.


73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Hey, that's great - talk about over-doing it :-)


On 7/11/07 14:11, "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ Elecraft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

> The KUSB cable is 6 ft long.
> 73, Eric  WA6HHQ

-- 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE - non wintel software?

2007-11-07 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Thanks for that, yes, the DK does act as virtual serial, or at least does
for the FT-859, should do for the K2 when they get a cable done.
And that's a reason to hang on the the KUSB - which I purchased just so I
had the one sold by Elecraft.

And on Leopard, I certainly will upgrade, but never in the first month or so
- I've seen too many problems with new OS's - never upgrade until someone
else has been using it for a bit.


On 7/11/07 13:47, "David Fleming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

> Hi David,
> 
> If the microHam Mac drivers allow you to create
> virtual serial ports that are recognized by OS X, then
> the digi keyer should work w/o any need for the KUSB.
> If not, then you'll need the KUSB. I'm not sure what
> chipset the KUSB uses, but there should be OS X
> drivers available. I'm using Keyspan USB to serial
> devices.
> 
> I've tested on 10.3, 10.4 and 10.5. Should work on
> 10.2 also. But everyone should upgrade to Leopard
> (10.5). It's way cool.
> 
> David, W4SMT
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Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ Elecraft

The KUSB cable is 6 ft long.
73, Eric  WA6HHQ

_..._


Lyle Johnson wrote:

Is the KUSB a USB cable to go from the K3 to my computer's USB port...
Yes, it is a short cable that is USB on the end that plugs into your 
computer and RSA232 on the end that plugs into your K3.  You may need 
a standard 9-pin male-to-female RS232 cable to reach between the K3 
and your computer if they aren't very close together.  Sorry, I don't 
know the exact length of the KUSB,

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Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Hmm, made me think, the DIGI KEYER (and microKEYER) requires power if it
doesn't come on the CAT/RS232 port.
Does the K3 provide power on the RS232 port? I expect not, in which case,
I'll need to provide power from the K3's 1A Acc 12v output - it is 1A is it
not?


On 7/11/07 14:19, "Trevor Smithers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

>> USInterface.com Navigator arriving soon. One USB cable to plug
>> into the PC, the Navigator provides high-quality soundcard, COM ports, FSK,
>> K1EL and nice knobs on the front.
> 
>> If you or anyone else is after a good solution then this is worth
>> considering.
> 
> Very similar to the latest Microkeyer by the look of it
> http://www.microham-usa.com/Products/MKII.html
> 
> 73 to all
> Trevor  G0KTN
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[Elecraft] Re: [skcc] SS "Strangenss"

2007-11-07 Thread Kurt Pawlikowski

Hi!

   Offset issue resolved: Mostly, it was an operator error! (ME!). 
Well, the rig seems to be operating within calibration. While I have a 
question or two (I posed them to Don), it looks like the mystery is 
fixed... for now!


   Thanks for all the comments.

   Regards,

   kurtt

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   The Pinrod Corporation
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Kurt Pawlikowski wrote:


Hi,

First, FYI: this is cross-posted to the Elecraft reflector and the
SKCC group.

I "played" on the SS the weekend. Attained 63 contacts QRP (KX-1). I
was mostly giving out points as I probably won't submit my log... But,
anyway...

While attempting to respond to a station, I was using a spectrum
program so I knew I was on the calling stations frequency (in this case,
I believe the KX-1 uses a 600 Hz offset - I've tested it with another
radio and it seems correct). So, here's the "strange" part: If I zero
beat the calling station, there was about a 1 in 10 chance they'd hear
me! If, on-the-other-paw, I tuned to about 450 or 500 Hz, they seemed to
hear me okay! And this included stations who were answering on their
exact frequency! I first noted this when calling one station, but heard
my call at about a 100 Hz tone (which meant my sig was 500 Hz below
him). I thought, "Huh?" Well, it works out well, because the bandwidth
filters seem centered on about 450 Hz when at it's narrowest, but the
question is, why was this? I mean I fully expected stations to be
listening on their own frequency first, then offsets. Or, am I missing
something? {'-)

Regards,

kurtt

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[Elecraft] Gamma HPS power supply Noise on Load

2007-11-07 Thread Paul J. Cort-Wright
Hi Replying to Fred KT5X,

I get the same irritating noise when i attemp to use my Gamma PSU with an Icom 
IC7000 

so must just be a simple deign fault ? that is related to current drain only.

Regards Paul G3SEM

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Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Trevor Smithers
> USInterface.com Navigator arriving soon. One USB cable to plug 
>into the PC, the Navigator provides high-quality soundcard, COM ports, FSK, 
>K1EL and nice knobs on the front.

>If you or anyone else is after a good solution then this is worth 
>considering.

Very similar to the latest Microkeyer by the look of it
http://www.microham-usa.com/Products/MKII.html 

73 to all
Trevor  G0KTN
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Fw: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Bill Tippett

HB9DRV:

the Navigator provides high-quality soundcard


"USB Audio Codec
Standard Microsoft Audio Device
   2 channel Output DAC 16 bit
   2 channel Input ADC 16 bit
   Codec operates at sampling rates up to 48,000 Hz*
   *Most Amateur software applications set the sampling rate to 
11,025 Hz."


http://usinterface.com/Navigator.html

   Sounds like a nice product overall but the soundcard
will not be enough for decent SDR/DSP processing on the
K3's IF output.  You really want 24 bits at 96 kHz minimum
and preferably 192 kHz.

   73,  Bill  W4ZV 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE - non wintel software?

2007-11-07 Thread David Fleming
Hi David,

If the microHam Mac drivers allow you to create
virtual serial ports that are recognized by OS X, then
the digi keyer should work w/o any need for the KUSB.
If not, then you'll need the KUSB. I'm not sure what
chipset the KUSB uses, but there should be OS X
drivers available. I'm using Keyspan USB to serial
devices.

I've tested on 10.3, 10.4 and 10.5. Should work on
10.2 also. But everyone should upgrade to Leopard
(10.5). It's way cool.

David, W4SMT


--- "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> YES! - THANK YOU  David / Elecraft.
> 
> While I can use the Wintel laptop, having it on OSX
> will be so much less
> hassle. I assume that will be 10.4 and up. And
> hopefully, my microHAM Digi
> keyer will act as a straight through.
> (yes I have the KUSB on order).
> 
> 
> On 7/11/07 02:40, "David Fleming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> sent:
> 
> > OS X and Linux versions of the K3 Utility are
> > currently under development!
> > 
> > David, W4SMT
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Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
FWIW I have a USInterface.com Navigator arriving soon. One USB cable to plug 
into the PC, the Navigator provides high-quality soundcard, COM ports, FSK, 
K1EL and nice knobs on the front.


If you or anyone else is after a good solution then this is worth 
considering.


Simon Brown, HB9DRV

- Original Message - 
From: "Julian G4ILO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


That's useful, Simon. I've had a few direct replies about the serial
cable wiring but what about the audio connections? Would standard
3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo jack cables suffice? Is any resistive attenuator
needed, such as I've used in the home made cables for most other
radios? 


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[Elecraft_K3] AGC "attack" time adjustment

2007-11-07 Thread rdehli
Hi.

I'm reading the latest K3 Owners manual (v.B 10/07) and i am wondering 
about the AGC "attack" time adjustment that someone talked about 
earlier. On page 50 in the manual there are listed several AGC menu 
adjustments, AGC PLS [T] NOR is for "AGC noise pulse rejection". I am 
thinking about the possibilities of adjusting the AGC attack time to a 
point where the static "pops" and crashes will not trigger the AGC (and 
mute the receiver) like on the FT-2000 and IC-7000. This was a major 
problem on these two radios, and I could not find any cure for it.
Activating the NB can help a bit, but i will prefer an AGC attack time 
adjustment leaving the NB out in most situations.
Lets hope the AGC PLS menu in the K3 will be sufficient.

Best regards
LA4AMA
Roar



 
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[Elecraft_K3] SN# 72 IS IT ON THE AIR ?

2007-11-07 Thread Perry
WONDER if sn# 00072  is on the air.. 
??

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FDIM 2007  I WAS THERE !



 
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Re: Re[2]: [Elecraft] OT: Motorola buys Yeasu. Wow!

2007-11-07 Thread Joseph M Grib
I have to disagree with you Julian, first off I worked for one of the
major 
dealers in the US market for about 10 years and can tell you that this is

a 2% business for major gear. Sure, they make some profit on accessories,

but lets face it, few guys buy a ton of accessories for their HT's, and
darn 
few for mobiles or HF stations. 

Why do you think that ham dealers across the US have been folding? 

Why do you think there's been a lack of dealer and manufacturer presence 
at hamfests and shows? 

It's because it's not profitable to do it. A ham dealer has to pay his
bills for rent, 
salaries, stock, electricity, taxes, etc. just like any other buisness
does. 
A business must turn about $10,000 in sales at a show or hamfest to make
it
worthwhile to show up. This covers salaries, gas, expenses in moving
stock to
the show. 

Do you work for free? Why then do you expect the ham dealers to or their 
employees to?? Would you get up at 3 AM on a Sunday, drive for a few
hours, 
set up your stand, stand outside in the hot sun/rain/whatever and then
pack it all
up just to unload and be back at your job on Monday for free week after
week? 

What you the consumer are paying for is the service behind the sale and
the ability
to actually see things before you purchase them.  The dealer has an
upfront cost for 
a storefront, utilities, stock, knowledgeable employees, and other
expenses that like 
any other company he/she wants a return on their investment for.

When I was on the other side of the counter, I heard all the time how "I
can get it cheaper
by the 1-800-XXX number." Then fine and go use the 800 number but when
it's needing 
repairs or you need advice, go call the 800 number and don't come bother
me. Oh, they
don't offer advice or solve issues on the 800 order line? There's a "no
return" policy on 
defective equipment? No return policy on unwanted gear? What a shame... 

How many times I've had customers play "let's make a deal" at the ham
store? This is a 
business, not a hobby for us. You don't walk into your local grocery
store and argue 
with the checkout clerk how cheap you can get milk somewhere else do you?
When you
walk into a major department store, you don't argue that you can buy the
same pair of pants
cheaper somewhere else do you? Then why do you do it at a ham store? 

Sure there's tons of places to get stuff on the internet and I'm sure a
lot cheaper, but if the ham
community wants ham stores to be around and not everthing to be either a
800 number or on
the internet, then you will have to support your local store and local
dealers, or they'll disappear.

We've lamented more than once that our owner could close the doors, sell
everything
and put his money in a regular savings account at a bank and make a
better profit than
we turn sometimes. 

Enough said back to my hole.

73,

Joe KI3B




On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:15:03 + "Julian G4ILO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> The disappearance of companies like Yaesu and Kenwood and their 
> boring
> products could be the best thing to happen to ham radio for a long
> time. It would create new opportunities for small companies like
> Elecraft or Juma (http://www.nikkemedia.fi/juma-trx2/). Small
> companies selling direct via the Internet can compete well on cost
> with the big mass produced products because the dealers and
> distributors handling the latter products demand such huge profit
> margins.
> 
> I think that as the Chinese gain more personal wealth (and they are 
> -
> you may not see many Chinese tourists in the USA due to visa
> restrictions but they are in Europe now in droves) and get 
> interested
> in ham radio you will see more Chinese ham radio products. I have a
> Chinese 2m HT (though it's really a wide band VHF model that I've
> programmed 2m channels into.) The Chinese are not really innovators
> though. Their strength is in manufacturing cheaply products that 
> are
> designed elsewhere - something Wayne and Eric might want to think
> about if the K3 order book keeps growing faster than they can make
> them. :)
> -- 
> Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392  K3 s/n: ???
> G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com
> Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf
> 
> 
> On Nov 7, 2007 6:00 AM, Corboy-Poteet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > My thoughts (semi-serious) were that should the Amateur products
> > portion of Vertex include manufacturing and marketing it might be
> > worth looking at. Internal access to the Japanese market and I 
> would
> > think that Elecraft could cherry pick for the capabilities they 
> could
> > use (like manufacturing). But you are right, even should Motorola 
> be
> > able to do a clean split of the amateur radio portion they would
> > certainly expect the buyer to assume all warranty obligations and
> > other repair, not a pleasant prospect.
> >
> > But probably all of Yaesu amateur products are so inextricably 
> tied to
> > Vertex commercial and government gear that a clean separation will 
> be
> > impossible. Mo

Re: [Elecraft] Crystal Tester Trouble!

2007-11-07 Thread Don Wilhelm

Steve,

If you have a large value trimpot at the output, that could cause 
problems.  Try a pot in the range of 500 to 1k.  You may have to change 
the values of the two capacitors in the base/emitter part of the circuit 
for use at a lower frequencies.  The capacitors control the feedback, so 
some experimenting may be in order - either too much feedback or too 
little can cause a failure to oscillate.


Remember that oscillator is intended to develop a huge output that is 
handy for troubleshooting - the output is easily measured with an RF 
Probe and DMM.  If you want a low level oscillator better suited for 
alignment purposes, I would suggest that you use a circuit similar to 
that used in the Elecraft XG1 or XG2 - download the manuals and take a look.


73,
Don W3FPR

Elecraft Reflector wrote:

Hello Group!

I have built two crystal testers from the circuit shown on page 5, Appendix E 
of the K1 construction manual. The components used were exact values. The 
circuit works fine with crystals from 10MHz and upwards but good 80m crystals 
will not fire up the oscillator. I have tried a fair few good 80m QRP crystals 
(standard package) but no joy. Has anyone had the same problem? Any ideas how 
to solve it please?

  

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Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Not required based on all the postings and manual - isolating trans. In K3
and adjustable gain etc I believe


On 7/11/07 11:30, "Julian G4ILO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

> On Nov 7, 2007 11:05 AM, Simon Brown (HB9DRV) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> but what about the audio connections? Would standard
> 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo jack cables suffice? Is any resistive attenuator
> needed, such as I've used in the home made cables for most other
> radios?

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Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Julian G4ILO
On Nov 7, 2007 11:05 AM, Simon Brown (HB9DRV) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To answer a few offline questions, here's a UK-sourced cable:
> http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=97735&criteria=rs-232&doy=7m11

That's useful, Simon. I've had a few direct replies about the serial
cable wiring but what about the audio connections? Would standard
3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo jack cables suffice? Is any resistive attenuator
needed, such as I've used in the home made cables for most other
radios?
-- 
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Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
To answer a few offline questions, here's a UK-sourced cable: 
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=97735&criteria=rs-232&doy=7m11


Simon Brown, HB9DRV

- Original Message - 
From: "Ken Kopp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>





Is the KUSB a USB cable to go from the K3 to my computer's USB port or is 
it an internal module for which I will need to supply cable for the K3 to 
computer conection?




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[Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE - non wintel software?

2007-11-07 Thread Robert Allbright
This is very good news, I use an Apple G5 iMac with MacloggerDX and  
cocoaModem 2

and very rarely use my windows  laptop, e.g. Spectrogram with my K2.

Rob, G3RCE

'Lord, teach me to humble myself that I may be exalted.'
--

OS X and Linux versions of the K3 Utility are
currently under development!

David, W4SMT


--- Nick Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



... which leads me nicely to a question... Is there
any software or
procedure for upgrading k3 firmware without running
windows? I don't
have a single bit of Microsoft software in my house.

I can't spot it in the K3 programmer's reference.
-








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[Elecraft] Crystal Tester Trouble!

2007-11-07 Thread Elecraft Reflector
Hello Group!

I have built two crystal testers from the circuit shown on page 5, Appendix E 
of the K1 construction manual. The components used were exact values. The 
circuit works fine with crystals from 10MHz and upwards but good 80m crystals 
will not fire up the oscillator. I have tried a fair few good 80m QRP crystals 
(standard package) but no joy. Has anyone had the same problem? Any ideas how 
to solve it please?

Many thanks, kind regards

Steve M0ECS
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RE: [Elecraft] K3

2007-11-07 Thread David Wilburn
Thanks for the info.  On the K2 side of things, concerning the audio, if
you have the DSP, you can dial in some gain, and that seems to help the
audio issue quite a bit.
-  

David Wilburn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K4DGW
K2 S/N 5982


On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 23:28 -0600, Craig Rairdin wrote:
> It has actually "piqued" your interest, but either way, you're interested,
> and that's good. :-)
> 
> I did some side-by-side tests with my K2 and K3 tonight and made a couple
> interesting observations.
> 
> 1) Both receivers did a similar job on weak signals. I'm sure the K3 is
> better by the numbers but it's hard to find the exact signal on the air to
> demonstrate that. I found when a signal faded to unreadable on the K2 it was
> also unreadable on the K3 and vice-versa.
> 
> 2) The K3 has more volume available. There were times at Field Day last year
> that I was running full volume on the K2, what with visitors making a racket
> and the generator running. (Actually the most distracting thing about the
> generator was the smell. We ran biodiesel and it smelled like french fries
> all weekend. M French fries). Where was I? Oh, yeah, the K3 can
> be cranked up louder.
> 
> 3) When I disconnect the antenna from the K2 I get a lot of hiss. When I
> disconnect the antenna from the K3 it goes silent. Which leads to my next
> point...
> 
> 4) The S-meter on the K2 sat at about S3 when listening to a weak signal.
> The S-meter on the K3 generally sat at S0 and bounced around in the S2 or S3
> range when my target signal was transmitting.
> 
> Finally, this probably won't happen every time you have a problem with your
> K3, but a couple days ago I reported that I was losing most of the audio
> when I cranked the filter bandwidth below 350 hz, and today version 1.34 of
> the MCU software was announced and the problem is gone. So, a) that's pretty
> cool, and b) the software to download and install the update to the K3 is
> idiot-proof (unless part of your idiocy is that you're not running Windows
> -- but even then, OSX and Linux clients are in the works).
> 
> Craig
> NZ0R
> K3/100 #25
> K2/100 #4941
> K1 #1966
> KX1 #1499
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rattray
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 5:32 PM
> To: Elecraft
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3
> 
> 
> 
> To the people who are actually operating K3s on the air, please keep those
> reports coming on the Elecraft reflector - I'm reading every one of them as
> I'm considering whether or not I should purchase a K3 - I must admit the
> report about being able to copy cw as a single signal in crowded conditions
> sure has peaked my interest! - tnx & 72 - Bruce. -ps- of course what's
> happening to the Cdn dollar is helping too :-))
> 
> 72/73 - Bruce ve5rc/ve5qrp - QRP-C#1, QRP-L#886, A1 Operator
> QRP-Canada - http://www.qrp-canada.com 
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 KDSP2

2007-11-07 Thread David Wilburn
I added gain to mine, and it was a big help.  The 3rd and 4th crystal
filters knocked down the amplitude a bit, and the DSP filled it in
nicely.  Between the filter settings and the AF1-4 settings, throughout
the SS, I always found what I needed to eliminate signals, and I did not
have to fiddle with settings further.
-  

David Wilburn
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K4DGW
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On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 06:37 +, Nick Henwood wrote:
> Belatedly getting round to seeing what I can do with the KDSP2 and very 
> pleased with results. 
> Interested to know what use others have made of the gain menus. I have added 
> a little  filter gain to CW and SSB and am trying out changes with the 
> Denoiser.  Would be interested in experience of others. 
> 73 Nick G3RWF
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Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread Julian G4ILO
Is there a wiring diagram for the "optimum" K3 RS-232 cable anywhere?
I know people are saying "use a standard serial cable" but it's pretty
hard to buy such things these days now USB has taken over and as I
have a pair of the right connectors and a length of multi-core cable
it makes most sense for me to make up my own. It's also something to
do while I'm waiting...

I'd also like to make up audio interface cables. I can't tell what the
connectors on the K3 are from the picture, and the manual didn't
appear to mention it.

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On Nov 7, 2007 7:06 AM, Lyle Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is the KUSB a USB cable to go from the K3 to my computer's USB port...
>
> Yes, it is a short cable that is USB on the end that plugs into your
> computer and RSA232 on the end that plugs into your K3.  You may need a
> standard 9-pin male-to-female RS232 cable to reach between the K3 and
> your computer if they aren't very close together.  Sorry, I don't know
> the exact length of the KUSB, I think it is a bit less than 60 cm.
>
> 73,
>
> Lyle KK7P
>
>
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Re: Re[2]: [Elecraft] OT: Motorola buys Yeasu. Wow!

2007-11-07 Thread Julian G4ILO
The disappearance of companies like Yaesu and Kenwood and their boring
products could be the best thing to happen to ham radio for a long
time. It would create new opportunities for small companies like
Elecraft or Juma (http://www.nikkemedia.fi/juma-trx2/). Small
companies selling direct via the Internet can compete well on cost
with the big mass produced products because the dealers and
distributors handling the latter products demand such huge profit
margins.

I think that as the Chinese gain more personal wealth (and they are -
you may not see many Chinese tourists in the USA due to visa
restrictions but they are in Europe now in droves) and get interested
in ham radio you will see more Chinese ham radio products. I have a
Chinese 2m HT (though it's really a wide band VHF model that I've
programmed 2m channels into.) The Chinese are not really innovators
though. Their strength is in manufacturing cheaply products that are
designed elsewhere - something Wayne and Eric might want to think
about if the K3 order book keeps growing faster than they can make
them. :)
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On Nov 7, 2007 6:00 AM, Corboy-Poteet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My thoughts (semi-serious) were that should the Amateur products
> portion of Vertex include manufacturing and marketing it might be
> worth looking at. Internal access to the Japanese market and I would
> think that Elecraft could cherry pick for the capabilities they could
> use (like manufacturing). But you are right, even should Motorola be
> able to do a clean split of the amateur radio portion they would
> certainly expect the buyer to assume all warranty obligations and
> other repair, not a pleasant prospect.
>
> But probably all of Yaesu amateur products are so inextricably tied to
> Vertex commercial and government gear that a clean separation will be
> impossible. Motorola is certainly not going to continue turning out
> Yaesu amateur radio products but the 20% left in the hands of the
> company's founder may do so in some form.
>
> Ironic, if Yaesu fades and Kenwood slowly withdraws, we may get back
> to the point where the big names in amateur gear are again American
> and (perhaps) European. I guess China could enter the market but I
> would expect that the Chinese business model does not include low
> volume endeavors like Ham Radio (unless, of course, Elecraft sells
> hundreds of thousands of K3's and the Chinese notice). :)
>
>
> Mike   W5FTD
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Ha ha ... someone hand Wayne the smelling salts ...
> > he likely passed out after reading that post (Elecraft acquires Yaesu).
>
> > Guess opportunity and problems come in bunches!
>
> > w9gb
>
>
> >> You know, this may be Elecraft's opportunity to make its first
> >> corporate acquisition: take Yaesu off Motorola's hands (this assuming
> >> that Yaesu has some manufacturing and marketing assets). Though
> >> probably Yaesu manufacturing is contracted out to China; perhaps not a
> >> net plus for Elecraft.
> >
> >> Mike  W5FTD
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] A "My K3's coming question"

2007-11-07 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Or a USB extension :-)

On 7/11/07 07:06, "Lyle Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

>> Is the KUSB a USB cable to go from the K3 to my computer's USB port...
> 
> Yes, it is a short cable that is USB on the end that plugs into your
> computer and RSA232 on the end that plugs into your K3.  You may need a
> standard 9-pin male-to-female RS232 cable to reach between the K3 and
> your computer if they aren't very close together.  Sorry, I don't know
> the exact length of the KUSB, I think it is a bit less than 60 cm.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Lyle KK7P
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