Re: [Elecraft] K2: Strange behaviour during alignment and tests (part II)
wrote: Measuring the AGC-treashold voltage on pin 5 of U2 (control board) gives a range from 2.65-3.74 volts when adjusting R1 from counter-clockwise to This is normal, 3.8 is only achievable if all components have nominal values (and may actually not even be achievable then). It might be worth checking the 8V regulator voltage, though, as one person with a, bigger, problem with the AGC reference had a regulator that was out of spec. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 with MH2 Mic
In a recent message, Don Ehrlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ... As many already know the K3 AGC kicks in when the MH2 mic PTT switch is pressed and that causes the first few words to be attenuated after keying the mic. Elecraft told me that was caused by the mechanical noise the PTT switch in the mic makes and they plan to address it by and by. I am pleased to hear this, Don. This delay is particularly noticeable when using a powered mike such as the D104. I am sure the delay is not caused by mechanical noise but by transients in switching power onto the mike. 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] OK, Children - Listen Up!
Well said Rick! Rick Tavan N6XI wrote: A few of you have expressed grave disappointment that Elecraft has been unable to predict future availability accurately. Some of you have even suggested that this is part of some kind of nefarious plot. I assure you it is not. If you can not tolerate delays in the delivery of new technology, I urge you to vote with your checkbooks. Simply refrain from ordering these new products, cancel your delayed orders if you must and, above all, hold your tongues. This reflector is sponsored by Elecraft as a forum for exchange of hints and kinks and a channel for both formal and informal support. I find it amazing that they have not yet chosen to make it a moderated forum where someone can censor the cheap shots that have, frankly, gotten out of hand. My Mom taught me If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. Of course, that advice does not hold universally but in a public forum like an email reflector it should be a cardinal rule. How would you like it if someone posted billboards on your house announcing every mistake you had ever made? What if some of them were inaccurate, incorrect or marginally libelous? One of my mentors in business, a highly decorated entrepreneur, media pundit and investor, taught his people to Praise publicly, criticize privately. Please take that advice.Thisreflector is one of the great things about Elecraft and I urge you all to think three times before posting criticisms: Is it true? Is it necessary? Is it helpful? If the answer to any of these questions is no or maybe, be a decent human being, give them the benefit of the doubt and don't post it. Send email directly to Elecraft instead. They will read it and respond appropriately. Elecraft is a company, a collection of imperfect individuals trying hard to do as a team what no one person could do alone. They make mistakes as we all do. I have never seen another company so willing to admit their mistakes and inform their public. Yes, they have published some bad news. In fact, they publish more bad news about product development delays than many companies ... because most companies don't publish bad news at all! Nor do they provide a public forum where their failings can be discussed as easily as their successes. I admire Elecraft and wish all my other vendors were as candid. Heck, I wish any of my other vendors were as candid. If you can't tolerate product delays, don't order new stuff. Don't order anything unless it is available off the shelf. Given the vitriol of some on this reflector, I should advise them never to order anything without a signed, custom contract of performance. They won't get such a contract from ham radio vendors but they won't be let down, either. Elecraft has delivered a series of outstanding products and developed a well-deserved reputation for technical excellence, product innovation and the finest support in the amateur radio product business. The K3 is the best radio I have ever used, right now and despite lacking a few promised features. In fact, I was able to say that six months ago when it had far more rough edges than remain today. I, too, pine for the sub-receiver. I even sold my FT-1000MP to make room for the K3, knowing full well that until the sub came out I was compromising my ability to work split-frequency DX pileups. I can deal with that. If you can't, just wait. But above all, please be civil. The Elecraft team are a handful of the finest engineers, business people and human beings I have had the pleasure to know. They do not always deliver their dreams on schedule but they definitely do deliver and they deserve better treatment than some of you are dishing out on this reflector which they sponsor. The majority of contributors to the reflector make me proud to be a customer. The few whose whining, accusations and rants are spoiling this corner of our hobby make me ashamed of the low level of social training some of us received as children. Please take your venom elsewhere. Now, can we return to our regularly scheduled programming of Elecraft product questions and answers, hints and kinks and general good will? Thanks and 73, /Rick N6XI ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 with MH2 Mic
In a recent message, Don Ehrlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ... Elecraft told me that was caused by the mechanical noise the PTT switch in the mic makes and they plan to address it by and by. Not so! [Snip] I just performed surgery on my mic connector to add a 150 ohm resistor in series with pin 2 (PTT line) and that is all it took to eliminate that AGC transient. No more lost words. It was messy surgery and not for the faint of heart but it works. That looks a good solution, Don, but surely this would invalidate the warranty. Perhaps wiring a 150 ohm into the plug would be a better answer until Elecraft issue the Issue B RF board. 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: The Believers
Please don't be patronising... Personal comments have no place on this or any other reflector. Options held on both sides are genuine. Stewart G3RXQ On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:33:15 -0600, Jim Brewster wrote: Gentlemen I have been on this list for about two days and have collected innumerable (and that's more than enough) gripes, complaints, whinges, whines, etc. to outfit the neighborhood kindergarten class for a school year. I did not know that this list was created for barracks room lawyers, sea lawyers and just plain soreheads to sound off with their opinions about Elecraft.. Please see your pastor, rabbi, preacher or whomever you do most of your griping to. If you had come into my office when I was practicing law I would have had you thrown out. I would be much happier representing Elecraft in its libel suit; remember, truth is not a defense to libel. I would much rather have seen you in court (my Municipal Court) charged with interfering with my Elecraft kit construction. Can't we all just get along. Your obedient servant, Jim - KE0NE - Original Message - From: Steve Sacco NN4X [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:44 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Re: The Believers Hi Tom - Someone can be a believer, or not, and whether you care or not is up to you. However, at the risk of being accused (again) of being on my high horse, we all share a obligation to guide behavior towards something acceptable to our society. Don't you agree? You see someone breaking into a car, you call 911...right? If you don't you're part of the problem...right? Do you *LIKE* being lied to? I'm not talking about Elecraft, I'm talking in general terms: Do you find that there's a benefit to you to business with a company which takes that approach? Would you tolerate that from someone who claims to be your friend? Your family? Is there any condition where that's a tolerable behavior? Personally, I don't think so, and I'm voicing my opinion. Now, if I was absolutely, 100% morally outraged, I'd cancel my order, and go buy something else. Due ONLY to what I've read/heard about Elecraft's previous customer support, and radio performance, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. That doesn't mean I have to accept what they're doing, or pretend that it isn't happening, or, WORSE, try to minimize it by explaining it away, as The Believers do. Given that Elecraft has the ability at any time to change their behavior with respect to keeping their customers and perspective customers informed regarding the status of the K3, and they have barely changed, I'd have to take a guess that they wouldn't change a thing, if given a chance at do over. Again, there's a difference between Things happen, and being exuberant, and keeping customers informed. I'm calling them out on the later, not the former. All IMO... 73, Steve NN4X Issue 2: Elecraft has consistently and apparently with forethought knowingly kept their customers (both perspective and paying) in the dark about the status of the K3. Additionally, it appears that they've misrepresented the actual development status of the K3, the KRX3 and the KDVR3. The details have been discussed many times before, and it should be obvious to anyone. Hi Steve, There is no shortage of people whose chests swell an entire cup size with moral indignation at the mere whiff of conspiracy. And, according to you, at the other end of the scale, are those who accept the word of Elecraft as gospel. If in fact there are such Believers, what do I care? Is it my job to set them straight? I don't know Wayne or Eric but I am sure if they were given the benefit of hindsight that might have gone back and changed a few things. To those disappointed about the sub receiver - I can understand that. I understand the complaints. Wayne and Eric are big boys and I sure they know that it all comes with the territory. As a result of being a customer for the past four years with Elecraft - I just don't see them creating deception as part of their business plan. If Elecraft is guilty of anything it may be all due to a conflict over their exuberance for the K3 and a release date. Frankly, if I could build a radio like that I would find it very difficult to contain myself and would have stood no chance of keeping it a secret for as long as they did. Tom, AK2B _._. _ _.._ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the
[Elecraft] Shipping,second receivers etc, etc
Dear critics,believers,pious preachers,flag wavers etc. Sure there are others like me who have a view but are now bored to death with this reflector. Please give us a break! 73 Nick G3RWF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] L34 on K2 tuning question?
Kevin, When I first aligned my K2 I followed the instructions written in the manual for tuning L34 using the quote 'weak' 7 MHz birdie - more like a angry elephant. After doing some work to reduce the number of K2 receiver birdies, it struck me that the 7 MHz birdie signal is entering the receiver chain at not just one place, or could be perhaps two separate signals from different sources. If one 'birdie' signal had established itself in the receiver chain before L34 and another 'birdie' signal entered the chain AFTER L34, then tuning L34 as suggested in the manual using the birdie might not result in best overall receiver performance in terms of noise floor. Tuning L34 will have an effect on the combined level of the two birdie signals as seen by Spectrogram as a single signal (tuning birdie against birdie), and some effect on the observed noise floor, but not necessarily result in the overall noise figure which the receiver is capable of 'delivering' at 7 MHz and other bands. Tuning the 40m bandpass filter does affect the 'before L34 birdie', an effect noted by Bill KE5KWE. Using a signal generator connected to the antenna input running at a frequency further up the 40m band, to separate the observed signal from that wretched 7 MHz birdie, and setting the generator level so that the observed output signal was about 10db IIRC above noise, I found the optimum position of L34's slug to be near the top of the can but not at same place as when using the birdie, about 1/2 turn below IIRC. With L34 tuned this way, antenna noise can be heard on all bands 80m - 10m when using my K2 with a 400 Hz filter setting at this very quiet rural location. 73, Geoff GM4ESD Kevin Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote. bill KE5KWE wrote: I went through the same thing just today. We also used a spectogram but after failing to hear an apreciable change we followed the next suggestion, alligning the 40-meter band pass filter. Once this was aligned we were able to tune L-34 by ear. It did indeed occur near the top of the can, as stated in the text. The internal signal on my K2 had peaked around the time that L34 was half-way down but the noise to the right of the internal signal didn't drop until about the time the slug hit the bottom of the can. Unless you use Spectogram to you may be close to the best position of the L34 slug but not at the ideal spot. One thing I'm interested in is the difference between the peak of the internal signal and the peak of the noise floor on K2 radios. On my radio I see a difference (between the black cross and red cross on the screen capture at http://www.ve3syb.ca/tmp/K2-L34.jpg) of about 17db as seen with Spectogram. Is this typical, above average, or below average of what other K2 owners have noticed? I'm still trying to convince myself that my K2 is hearing as well as it should. So far, it seems to be hearing everything I can hear on my shortwave radio. -- Cheers! Kevin. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil
I agree Ken, I have received an eMails from Lisa a few Sundays ago regaridng my order. It was a pleasent surprise. Of course I never asked her what she was wearing...hi hi Mike, N4GW -- Original message from Ken Kopp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- Nice posting, Don! (:-)) Lisa in an Elecraft sweatshirt oh my! Isn't she a joy! Take note, guys ... Lisa called him on a SUNDAY! This alone says volumes about the folks in Aptos ... 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Contemplating new power supply
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ditto. W7TEA wrote: | I've used the same Astron RS-35A for at least 20 years with several different | rigs and without a bit of trouble. | | Gary W7TEA | | | I'm wondering what you guys think is about the best power supply for the | money for my K3/100. - -- R. Kevin Stover, ACØH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHlJI811jxjloa2wsRAmJAAKCtdVHEsMtxwL460+0Fba/r9X6zSwCgxZ61 U5L+Ye7LT+DcY1x9bXPnwF8= =3hu0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Exactly. I have yet to figure out what makes these people think they're entitled to know anything other than the publicly released shipping schedule. Do they think their deposits, assuming all of the nattering nabobs of negativism have paid a deposit, allow them some kind of special access to proprietary company information? Ridiculous! If you don't like it, get your money back and head down the road. Don't take it too personal when Icom, Kenwood, Yaesu, Ten-Tec, and Flex laugh in your faces when you demand the same of them. Don Wilhelm wrote: | The shipping schedule has been publicized for some time now and I just do | not understand those who seem to believe there are some secrets being | kept - certainly the number of outstanding orders will not be made | public, and some seem to insist that just that data be made available - | well, it ain't 'go-na happen. | | If you want to know the numbers, Elecraft is currently shipping 15 to | 20 K3s per week, and if the shipping date for current orders is | mid-April, then there is somewhere between 255 and 340 K3s on order | right now - simple calculation reveals that result - what more | information do some folks need? | | 73, | Don W3FPR - -- R. Kevin Stover, ACØH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHlJsM11jxjloa2wsRAvyCAKCzcjTEAfiHSoSPWdF34O6+MZ6mvwCeMDgu qvfaJXoF3vDE8XMxJX5aVHY= =8QWi -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil
My reaction to all this dicussion is to upgrade my order - adding some filters and transverer i/f and TCXO. Will be done in next days. Will wait for KRX3 - no problem. The price for perfect functionality will be OK for me. GL, 73! L. -ok1dst- R. Kevin Stover napsal(a): -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Exactly. I have yet to figure out what makes these people think they're entitled to know anything other than the publicly released shipping schedule. Do they think their deposits, assuming all of the nattering nabobs of negativism have paid a deposit, allow them some kind of special access to proprietary company information? Ridiculous! If you don't like it, get your money back and head down the road. Don't take it too personal when Icom, Kenwood, Yaesu, Ten-Tec, and Flex laugh in your faces when you demand the same of them. Don Wilhelm wrote: | The shipping schedule has been publicized for some time now and I just do | not understand those who seem to believe there are some secrets being | kept - certainly the number of outstanding orders will not be made | public, and some seem to insist that just that data be made available - | well, it ain't 'go-na happen. | | If you want to know the numbers, Elecraft is currently shipping 15 to | 20 K3s per week, and if the shipping date for current orders is | mid-April, then there is somewhere between 255 and 340 K3s on order | right now - simple calculation reveals that result - what more | information do some folks need? | | 73, | Don W3FPR - -- R. Kevin Stover, ACØH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHlJsM11jxjloa2wsRAvyCAKCzcjTEAfiHSoSPWdF34O6+MZ6mvwCeMDgu qvfaJXoF3vDE8XMxJX5aVHY= =8QWi -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil
Over the phone a gentleman should never ask a lady what she was wearing. de Joe, aa4nn - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have received an eMails from Lisa a few Sundays ago regaridng my order. It was a pleasent surprise. Of course I never asked her what she was wearing...hi hi Mike, N4GW ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Shipping,second receivers etc, etc
Yes, PLEASE I am genuinely sorry that many of you are so disappointed and frustrated. It is understandable. But this constant bickering, complaining and grandstanding is a real downer for the rest of us, none of whom has done anything to spoil your enjoyment. Can you please extend to us the same courtesy? Thank you. Ron Foster - W2RIP Nick Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear critics,believers,pious preachers,flag wavers etc. Sure there are others like me who have a view but are now bored to death with this reflector. Please give us a break! 73 Nick G3RWF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] OT: K2 elation!
Had to share the elation: snagged FO/OH1RX on 80 M CW at gray line this morning -- K2 running 5 W to 135 foot doublet, window line feed, at 50 feet. Mike, K8CN K2 #5569 New Hampshire -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/OT%3A-K2-elation%21-tp14998762p14998762.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] WAITING FOR K3
All: Sure, I am disappointed that I do not yet have my K3, ordered October 16. But with over 200 K3s out now there now I look as most of them as beta testers. Thank you beta testers. I am elated over the fact that when my K3 finally does ship I will have far less potential problems than you had. In the mean time I thank those K3 owners for their pictures and comments. I am learning from your experience as I wait. My K1 still works! 73, Ty, W1TF Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] OK, Children - Listen Up!
AMEN - Original Message - From: Rick Tavan N6XI [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:43 PM Subject: [Elecraft] OK, Children - Listen Up! A few of you have expressed grave disappointment that Elecraft has been unable to predict future availability accurately. Some of you have even suggested that this is part of some kind of nefarious plot. I assure you it is not. If you can not tolerate delays in the delivery of new technology, I urge you to vote with your checkbooks. Simply refrain from ordering these new products, cancel your delayed orders if you must and, above all, hold your tongues. This reflector is sponsored by Elecraft as a forum for exchange of hints and kinks and a channel for both formal and informal support. I find it amazing that they have not yet chosen to make it a moderated forum where someone can censor the cheap shots that have, frankly, gotten out of hand. My Mom taught me If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. Of course, that advice does not hold universally but in a public forum like an email reflector it should be a cardinal rule. How would you like it if someone posted billboards on your house announcing every mistake you had ever made? What if some of them were inaccurate, incorrect or marginally libelous? One of my mentors in business, a highly decorated entrepreneur, media pundit and investor, taught his people to Praise publicly, criticize privately. Please take that advice.Thisreflector is one of the great things about Elecraft and I urge you all to think three times before posting criticisms: Is it true? Is it necessary? Is it helpful? If the answer to any of these questions is no or maybe, be a decent human being, give them the benefit of the doubt and don't post it. Send email directly to Elecraft instead. They will read it and respond appropriately. Elecraft is a company, a collection of imperfect individuals trying hard to do as a team what no one person could do alone. They make mistakes as we all do. I have never seen another company so willing to admit their mistakes and inform their public. Yes, they have published some bad news. In fact, they publish more bad news about product development delays than many companies ... because most companies don't publish bad news at all! Nor do they provide a public forum where their failings can be discussed as easily as their successes. I admire Elecraft and wish all my other vendors were as candid. Heck, I wish any of my other vendors were as candid. If you can't tolerate product delays, don't order new stuff. Don't order anything unless it is available off the shelf. Given the vitriol of some on this reflector, I should advise them never to order anything without a signed, custom contract of performance. They won't get such a contract from ham radio vendors but they won't be let down, either. Elecraft has delivered a series of outstanding products and developed a well-deserved reputation for technical excellence, product innovation and the finest support in the amateur radio product business. The K3 is the best radio I have ever used, right now and despite lacking a few promised features. In fact, I was able to say that six months ago when it had far more rough edges than remain today. I, too, pine for the sub-receiver. I even sold my FT-1000MP to make room for the K3, knowing full well that until the sub came out I was compromising my ability to work split-frequency DX pileups. I can deal with that. If you can't, just wait. But above all, please be civil. The Elecraft team are a handful of the finest engineers, business people and human beings I have had the pleasure to know. They do not always deliver their dreams on schedule but they definitely do deliver and they deserve better treatment than some of you are dishing out on this reflector which they sponsor. The majority of contributors to the reflector make me proud to be a customer. The few whose whining, accusations and rants are spoiling this corner of our hobby make me ashamed of the low level of social training some of us received as children. Please take your venom elsewhere. Now, can we return to our regularly scheduled programming of Elecraft product questions and answers, hints and kinks and general good will? Thanks and 73, /Rick N6XI ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:
Re: [Elecraft] Shipping,second receivers etc, etc
My sentiments as well. Your choices are clear. Be patient or find something else to obsess over. Doug -- K0DXV Nick Henwood wrote: Dear critics,believers,pious preachers,flag wavers etc. Sure there are others like me who have a view but are now bored to death with this reflector. Please give us a break! 73 Nick G3RWF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Strange behaviour in K2
VR2BrettGraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wote: This behavior is due to an environment that apparently the K2 was not really meant to be used in - one with plenty of strong signals about. Brett, To be fair to the K2, the design of the variable IF filter and the use of a MC1350G as IF amplifier and NE602 as product detector does suggest that the K2 was not designed to cope with very strong unwanted signals close to the operating frequency, which is the 40m environment above 7100 kHz in *some* parts of Europe. With 6 or more BC stations spaced 5 kHz and/or 10 kHz rolling in with carrier levels up in the -10dbm region, S9 +60db, it is no wonder that the K2 using these 'weak' devices cannot cope properly if asked to listen amongst these monsters. The tuning 'click' problem appears to be caused by layout, lack of shielding and lack of lead filtering - a separate issue which could have been avoided IMHO. Also unfortunate is that it appears that mods developed in EU to address these two issues are not sufficient for the environment here. Probably not for Hans LA2MOA in Norway either, nor here in Northern UK. 73, Geoff GM4ESD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] L34 on K2 tuning question?
Kevingreat advice! Don't know why I didn't use the Spectrogram software in the first place instead of my ears! just checked and I was a ways off the peak, but using the PC and Spectrogram I've gained some sensitivity without raising any noise. Good call Kevin! 73 Kevin Cozens-2 wrote: Eddy Avila wrote: Changes while tuning L34 on my K2 are very subtle. Just barely hear L34 peak with the slug near the top of the canis this normal? I'm just trying to determine if the receiver on my K2 is working as it should. I recently went through a similar situation where I felt my K2 was not hearing as well as it was supposed to be hearing. After checking for construction problems, I went back over the alignment including re-adjusting L34. I came up with a little tip on how to make adjusting L34 a little bit easier. As you are probably aware, adjusting L34 is best done with Spectogram. It is very difficult to tell when you have the maximum strength on the internal signal with the lowest noise just by ear. Take a look at the screen capture I made (http://www.ve3syb.ca/tmp/K2-L34.jpg) while adjusting L34 on my K2. You will notice there are two cross style cursors, one in red and the other in black. Once you have the K2 set up and Spectogram ready to go (ie. you see the internally generated signal), move the cursor so the horizontal part of the cursor is just at the top of the internal signal (the black cursor) and left click with the mouse to mark the level. Next, move the cursor to the top of the noise floor (red cursor) but do not click with the mouse. You can now easily watch for changes in the level of the internal signal while watching the noise floor. When adjusting L34, this set up made it easy to see when the internal signal was at its peak. You can left click with the mouse during the procedure to move the cursor that indicates the level of the internal signal as needed (ie. as it starts to get stronger) so you can tell when you have hit the peak remembering to move the cursor back to the top of the noise floor afterwards. When adjusting L34 on my machine, I was easily able to see when the internal signal was strongest. While adjusting L34 I never saw a change in the level of the noise to the left of the signal. After the internal signal peaked, adjusting L34 so it went further in to the can meant that the signal to the right of the internal signal began to drop off at a sharper angle. On my K2, the slug seems to have bottomed out and makes me wonder if a cap needs to be changed so the optimum setting of L34 will be with the slug somewhere in the middle of its range of travel. I hope the idea about positioning the cursors to aid in detecting changes in levels of the internal signal and the noise floor might be useful either to you or to other people. PS. I have discovered that Spectogram seems to work when run under Linux via Wine. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ |What are we going to do today, Borg? Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 |Same thing we always do, Pinkutus: | Try to assimilate the world! #include disclaimer/favourite | -Pinkutus the Borg ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/L34-on-K2-tuning-question--tp14863908p15000860.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] HELP K3 #00215
Thanks to all who gave assistance with my problem! I already had the new Prodigy driver, however, I re-loaded that Driver AND the K3 utility. Then, on advice from Walter, DK8KV, I downgraded the K3 firmware then did a re-load - and all is now back to normal. Again, Thanks to All 73 from the Far North of ZL1. Mike, zl1mh. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KX1 KXB3080 awe
Finally got around to starting on the addition of the KXB3080 to KX1 #1601 last night and just wanted to comment on what a fun experience it is so far. First of all, it was interesting to open up the KX1 and look at the work I had completed previously. I know that my kit-building and soldering skills have improved immensely since the initial build...especially with regard to winding toroids. I finished wiring the KXB3080 board and soldering it to the main board. The fit of the little PCB is quite clever--as clever as the KXAT1 fits on the main board and within the tight quarters of the case. Great job, Elecraft! Can't wait to finish up the work tonight by building the LPF board and aligning everything! -john W4PAH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Shipping,second receivers etc, etc
I totally agree, I have read and noted all the comments If you can not wait or feel that strongly about Elecraft cancel your order that will speed up my K3 delivery. 73 Peter G3MLO. Nick Henwood wrote: Dear critics,believers,pious preachers,flag wavers etc. Sure there are others like me who have a view but are now bored to death with this reflector. Please give us a break! 73 Nick G3RWF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Shipping%2Csecond-receivers-etc%2C-etc-tp14994071p14997879.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 shipping date
New K3 orders are now targeted for mid April delivery. Not to worry, we all know how fast the time goes between now and the 15th of April. john k7up ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Looking for a K3 - buy mine
Simon - Did you find a buyer locally from the list, or did you sell it overseas? [Elecraft] Looking for a K3 - buy mine Simon Lewis simon at dl4plm.net Mon Jan 21 01:42:48 EST 2008 Sold pending payment Simon Lewis GM4PLM/DL4PLM http://www.dl4plm.net ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: Stange behaviour in K2
Hi Geoff, To be fair to the K2, the design of the variable IF filter and the use of a MC1350G as IF amplifier and NE602 as product detector does suggest that the K2 was not designed to cope with very strong unwanted signals close to the operating frequency etc. Have you tried an outboard narrow preselector yet? At www.funkamateur.de there are even 7 MHz crystal frontend filters available. Regarding the weak devices, using a good preselector filter, I have been able to construct a 7 MHz receiver with a NE602 as a mixer, that can handle nighttime conditions in the Netherlands. 73, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt -- Mijn Postvak In wordt beschermd door SPAMfighter. 654 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd. Download de gratis SPAMfighter via deze link: http://www.spamfighter.com/lnl ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3-100 #216
K3-100 kit #216 was delivered to my Sussex NJ QTH on Jan 17 (while I was away on vacation. Doh!). Ordered 5/4/2008 with 50% deposit, shipped 1/10/2008. Assembly to begin presently... 73, Paul WW2PT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX1 KXB3080 awe
While I no longer have my KX1, the one I had was done up with every option. I too was quite admiring of the job they did jamming it all in there. And, while it pales in comparison to the design of such a product, I likewise got to be impressed with myself and my ability to put it all together. David, k3tue --- John Shadle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally got around to starting on the addition of the KXB3080 to KX1 #1601 last night and just wanted to comment on what a fun experience it is so far. First of all, it was interesting to open up the KX1 and look at the work I had completed previously. I know that my kit-building and soldering skills have improved immensely since the initial build...especially with regard to winding toroids. I finished wiring the KXB3080 board and soldering it to the main board. The fit of the little PCB is quite clever--as clever as the KXAT1 fits on the main board and within the tight quarters of the case. Great job, Elecraft! Can't wait to finish up the work tonight by building the LPF board and aligning everything! -john W4PAH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil
Hi Joe, Yes, usually you'd be correct except there are some who know Lisa. (:-)) 'Tis all tongue-in-cheek. She knows many of us and hopefully her knowledge is (mostly) positive. Long ago I told I'd give her a kiss if she could help with an issue. She did. She would have helped anyway, but sent her a BIG Hershey's chocolate kiss thank you ... bought by my wife. (:-)) Humor is good for the soul ... 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil
If you want to know the numbers, Elecraft is currently shipping 15 to 20 K3s per week, and if the shipping date for current orders is mid-April, then there is somewhere between 255 and 340 K3s on order right now - simple calculation reveals that result - what more information do some folks need? 73, Don W3FPR Eric indicated that the equation is non linear. Therefor, I think we need at least one more data point. Somewhere around, say, a July 25 order date. Just as a for instance, of course. :) 73 Rick Dettinger K7MW ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil
My K3 was ordered on 27 July and I was told it would be shipped in November. Needless to say I am eagerly awaiting the real shipping date. Nelson, K8DJC -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3790 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil
I called Aptos recently to order a couple of inexpensive components for my K2 and they were friendly and very helpful. If they are stressed, and I'm sure they are, it did not show at all. With two kids in college I have no radio fund but when I can I will be ordering a K3. Every time I compare the rx of my K2/100 to any of the Icom's I own I am reminded that good things are worth waiting for. Don Wilhelm wrote: Yes, the folks in Aptos are working 7 days a week to handle the K3 backlog. Let's hope they don't suffer from overload stress too much longer - this same kind of effort has been going on since early December, those folks are on the verge of burn-out IMHO. So for those who are so very disappointed about the schedules, Yes, I believe you should cancel your order. The others who are waiting for delivery of their K3 will be happier for it, it means that they will get theirs sooner - they will be able to enjoy the K3 with the functions now available (and the added functions to follow as development efforts allow) and you can wait until everything is firmly in place before placing your order for the K3. Those who order now can expect delivery in about 4 months - that is quite a reduction from those who ordered in mid-May 2007 who are now receiving their K3s after an 8 month wait. The shipping schedule has been publicized for some time now and I just do not understand those who seem to believe there are some secrets being kept - certainly the number of outstanding orders will not be made public, and some seem to insist that just that data be made available - well, it ain't 'go-na happen. If you want to know the numbers, Elecraft is currently shipping 15 to 20 K3s per week, and if the shipping date for current orders is mid-April, then there is somewhere between 255 and 340 K3s on order right now - simple calculation reveals that result - what more information do some folks need? 73, Don W3FPR Ken Kopp wrote: Take note, guys ... Lisa called him on a SUNDAY! This alone says volumes about the folks in Aptos ... ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-Silver-tongued-devil-tp14991424p15004471.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 6M Preamp?
Did anyone notice the kind of steathy product announcement, of a 6M preamp for the K3 in Toby's excellent K3 Test from Bavaria? I recall it being tossed around as a posibliity, but don't recall seeing anything since (?). From Toby's review: *Wayne: The K3 has a fairly low-gain preamp. It is designed to improve MDS to -136 dBm or better without compromising dynamic range any more than necessary. Your later tests show that it is working as intended. I should mention that we also have an external K3 6-meter preamp product in the testing phase right now. It attaches directly to the RX ANT IN and OUT jacks, which can be selected on a per-band basis. It improves **6-meter MDS to better than -142 dBm.* For us 6M enthusiasts, THIS is exciting news! That, with a great noise blanker, should make my 6M efforts even more fun. Looking forward to hearing more on this option! 73, Steve NN4X EL98jh / 6M DXCC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 6M Preamp?
Did anyone notice the kind of steathy product announcement, of a 6M preamp for the K3 in Toby's excellent K3 Test from Bavaria? I recall it being tossed around as a posibliity, .. Toby, I caught that also. In the mean time, I have a ARR preamp, Model # P50VDG, that sits on the back of my K3. I use a female-female BNC adapter that holds the preamp out to the rx antenna in, and a simple male-male jumper about 9 to handle the other connections. I take power from the handy 12 vdc RCA jack on the back of the K3. Of note though, I have a 6 dB BNC pad on the output of the preamp. I've always found that preamps are a lot happier when they see close to 50 ohms. I have no measured MDS numbers for you. But it does bring weaker signals up to where I can read them. This K3 is in my shack at home. Which brings me to a problem. I have a TS-2000 at a remote site that I use for 6 meters SSB, only. My home sits in a valley, and this remote site is 300 feet above my head. But, there is no comparison of the TS-2000 with the K3, so, do I order another K3? (me thinks so!) I might be the only person to buy a K3 to operate just one band! So it will be interesting to see what Aptos has come up with for 6, but in the mean time, you can do it yourself. 73 de tom K8TB K3 FB53 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] OK, Children - Listen Up!
Rick - N6XI Congratulations for calling the whiners and malcontents to task for their disgraceful behavior. I, for one, wish that the reflector was 'monitored' to weed out the thrash. There's only one point I'd add to your comments - the lecherous comments, both direct and thinly veiled, regarding Lisa at Elecraft are entirely unacceptable. There is simply no excuse for this sort of insulting and demeaning conduct. I'd fully support Elecraft in banning those individuals from the reflector. Pete - K1YSY ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] [K3]- K3 in NAQP SSB
List: The new K3 was run through it paces as the 20/40m position at K7ZSD's station for the NAQP SSB Test this last weekend. This was a 12 hour Multi-Two operation at 100 watts power. The ops were KR7X(me),K7ZSD, W7ZB and K7ZS. I was going to shake down the rig in the RTTY RU but that didn't materialize due to work interference. The K3 as set up has the ATU, latest mcu and dsp firmware, 2100, 400 and 250 roofing filters and the 100w PA. Contest observations: 1. Receive audio is very nice, especially with noise cancelling headsets and AFX set to midway. No listening fatigue and it seemed to be easier to pick out calls in the pile-ups (subjective). All ops agreed on this, loved the receive audio. 2. Transmit audio equalization was set up with the help of an audio expert in Arizona. Turned out the best Contest type audio was with some midrange boost and a Heil HC-5 cartridge and not the HC-4. Go figure. 3. Tne auto notch filter is your best contest friend. I was running 20 meters up around 14290+ when some dipstick took offense at contestors in general. The offended station tried to jam me with and amplifier and solid carrier. I just punched in the auto notch and worked 10 stations in a row right through the attemped jam. Didn't even hear the jamming with the notch on. Touche! 4. The roofing filters work just like you would want them to. As you dial down the width in SSB the signal gets skrinched down and eventually loses all intelligability. Works for me. 5. The noise reduction is especially helpful on 40m and we set it at the first setting. It wasn't used much as the station is in a fairly quite location. The noise blanker was not utilized for the same reason. 6. I will be ordering the KXV3 so the receive only beverages can be used on 80 and 160m. 7. The ergonomics are fine. The knobs could be larger, personal preference, but did not cause any concern in the heat of the contest. The rig ran very cool with no apparant heating at all for the whole test. The final tally is that this is a keeper rig and will be the run radio in one of the two SO2R positions at the station with a 1000MP Mark V as the other rig in the setup. I plan on another shake down in the WPX RTTY test as a SO2R operation. Just thought a few hands-on observations would be nice for the list. Ciao and 73 Hank / KR7X We did over 1100 Q's with 500 plus on 20m and 300 plus on 40m ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] [K3]- K3 in NAQP SSB
Great information Hank, thanks for the update Mike, N4GW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 4:28 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] [K3]- K3 in NAQP SSB List: The new K3 was run through it paces as the 20/40m position at K7ZSD's station for the NAQP SSB Test this last weekend. This was a 12 hour Multi-Two operation at 100 watts power. The ops were KR7X(me),K7ZSD, W7ZB and K7ZS. I was going to shake down the rig in the RTTY RU but that didn't materialize due to work interference. The K3 as set up has the ATU, latest mcu and dsp firmware, 2100, 400 and 250 roofing filters and the 100w PA. Contest observations: 1. Receive audio is very nice, especially with noise cancelling headsets and AFX set to midway. No listening fatigue and it seemed to be easier to pick out calls in the pile-ups (subjective). All ops agreed on this, loved the receive audio. 2. Transmit audio equalization was set up with the help of an audio expert in Arizona. Turned out the best Contest type audio was with some midrange boost and a Heil HC-5 cartridge and not the HC-4. Go figure. 3. Tne auto notch filter is your best contest friend. I was running 20 meters up around 14290+ when some dipstick took offense at contestors in general. The offended station tried to jam me with and amplifier and solid carrier. I just punched in the auto notch and worked 10 stations in a row right through the attemped jam. Didn't even hear the jamming with the notch on. Touche! 4. The roofing filters work just like you would want them to. As you dial down the width in SSB the signal gets skrinched down and eventually loses all intelligability. Works for me. 5. The noise reduction is especially helpful on 40m and we set it at the first setting. It wasn't used much as the station is in a fairly quite location. The noise blanker was not utilized for the same reason. 6. I will be ordering the KXV3 so the receive only beverages can be used on 80 and 160m. 7. The ergonomics are fine. The knobs could be larger, personal preference, but did not cause any concern in the heat of the contest. The rig ran very cool with no apparant heating at all for the whole test. The final tally is that this is a keeper rig and will be the run radio in one of the two SO2R positions at the station with a 1000MP Mark V as the other rig in the setup. I plan on another shake down in the WPX RTTY test as a SO2R operation. Just thought a few hands-on observations would be nice for the list. Ciao and 73 Hank / KR7X We did over 1100 Q's with 500 plus on 20m and 300 plus on 40m ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil
I have yet to figure out what makes these people think they're entitled to know anything other than the publicly released shipping schedule. Customers are entitled to accurate and up to date information on their order status. Like many others, when I ordered I was given a November ship date. That date obviously was not and could not have been met. There has never been an accurate update of shipping date vs. order date posted here. The only information is postings from the fortunate when their unit is shipped/received and the all too rare update of the target date for new orders. As it is, those in the first build without deposits and the second build have no idea if their radios will ship next week or in three months. I understand it takes manpower to make updated notifications when the schedule slips (again) and that manpower is also needed to process current shipments. However, an accurate shipping estimate and an update when that date changes by more than a week (or two) is a reasonable standard for any company. That level of customer communication is basic business courtesy that any company which expects to stay in business for the long term owes its customers as a fundamental part of any transaction. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Kevin Stover Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Exactly. I have yet to figure out what makes these people think they're entitled to know anything other than the publicly released shipping schedule. Do they think their deposits, assuming all of the nattering nabobs of negativism have paid a deposit, allow them some kind of special access to proprietary company information? Ridiculous! If you don't like it, get your money back and head down the road. Don't take it too personal when Icom, Kenwood, Yaesu, Ten-Tec, and Flex laugh in your faces when you demand the same of them. Don Wilhelm wrote: | The shipping schedule has been publicized for some time now and I just do | not understand those who seem to believe there are some secrets being | kept - certainly the number of outstanding orders will not be made | public, and some seem to insist that just that data be made available - | well, it ain't 'go-na happen. | | If you want to know the numbers, Elecraft is currently shipping 15 to | 20 K3s per week, and if the shipping date for current orders is | mid-April, then there is somewhere between 255 and 340 K3s on order | right now - simple calculation reveals that result - what more | information do some folks need? | | 73, | Don W3FPR - -- R. Kevin Stover, ACØH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHlJsM11jxjloa2wsRAvyCAKCzcjTEAfiHSoSPWdF34O6+MZ6mvwCeMDgu qvfaJXoF3vDE8XMxJX5aVHY= =8QWi -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] OK, Children - Listen Up!
Hey Pete - Maybe you are joking about comments I have made? !!! These comments to Lisa are offered in a friendly and endearing manner, and are accepted as such by Lisa herself. We email back an forth now and then. She really is a sweet woman, and has been like a family member to many of us on the list. Rick - N6XI snip I, for one, wish that the reflector was 'monitored' to weed out the thrash. There's only one point I'd add to your comments - the lecherous comments, both direct and thinly veiled, regarding Lisa at Elecraft are entirely unacceptable. There is simply no excuse for this sort of insulting and demeaning conduct. I'd fully support Elecraft in banning those individuals from the reflector. Pete - K1YSY ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] want to buy a KIO2
Anyone have a working KIO2 that they'd be willing to part with? Please reply to me directly. Thanks 73, tom n3ckk ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] [K3] How about switching VFO A B knobs.
I think I'd like the option of being able to tune VFO B (sub-Rx when I get it) on VFO A, but still stay in split and not have to do an A/B tap. I'm thinking that while I'm trying to work that split pile-up and I've got the guys run frequency, I'd rather like to use the larger knob and controls to listen for the QSX freq. It's not convenient to use A/B, because you have to tap it before you transmit and I might forget. [B SET] does not switch the tuning as far as I can tell, just how the filters are being set. -- Black holes are where God divided by zero. -Steven Wright, comedian (1955-) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] [K3]- K3 in NAQP SSB
4. The roofing filters work just like you would want them to. As you dial down the width in SSB the signal gets skrinched down and eventually loses all intelligability. Works for me. Not clear how the width was reduced in your operation, but it should be done with the HI CUT control, not the WIDTH control. Once you get down to about 1.5kHz width, then you need to increase LO CUT about 100-200Hz for further width reduction before reducing HI CUT again. Done this way, most signal are very intelligible down to 1.5kHz or so. But using the WIDTH control gives reduced intelligibility even at 2.2kHz. 73, Ed - W0YK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Reflector being wrecked
Well I failed in my request to give a break to those of us interested in rational discussion about Elecraft products - which might well include pertinent questions about delivery and availability of options (politely put). I am taking the obvious option and coming off the reflector (at least for now) - might return if it returns to its former usefulness. 73 Nick G3RWF. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 #266
K3/100 kit S/N 000266 delivered here 1333 UTC today 21 January having left Aptos 18 January. It travelled at an average speed of about 99 mph. Ordered 11 May 2007 with deposit. The wait is over for me. Good luck to those still waiting - may it not be long! 73 to all Geoff G3UCK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 update problem
Hi, After having successfully completed several updates of the firmware of my K3, it suddenly has stopped working, my K3 is not responding. After seeing this I upgraded the K3 update utility to the latest and greatest, also new drivers for my original Elecraft delivered USB-serial converter. Forcing K3 into MCU upload mode doesn't work Any ideas? vy 73 Eric PA3CEV K2 960 K3 122 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 18-1-2008 19:32 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 #266
Right, that blows my theory of 250 for the first prodn run! Beginning to look like 300 then. Chris G3SJJ Geoffrey Downs wrote: K3/100 kit S/N 000266 delivered here 1333 UTC today 21 January having left Aptos 18 January. It travelled at an average speed of about 99 mph. Ordered 11 May 2007 with deposit. The wait is over for me. Good luck to those still waiting - may it not be long! 73 to all Geoff G3UCK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 Power Out
I've had a problem crop up in that I get Hi-Cur warnings at any Power Setting over a couple of tenths of a watt yet an external wattmeter shows 10 watts into the DL when the K2 shows 2 watts.. After checking V RFDET and finding voltage on D9 as well as pin 10 P4 and Pin2 U6, I discovered a post from over 3 years ago about a failure in the KSB2 causing this problem. Removing the KSB2, reinstalling the jumpers and C167 and everything is back to normal. I believe that the original poster thought that the U1 chip had got scrambled. Before I contact Elecraft for a new IC, is there any way to be positive that U1 is the problem? Right before the problem occured, I had the K2 connected to an under-construction KPA100 for testing and final adjustments. Possibly there was static or a spike of some kind resulting from the makeshift lashup with the KPA lying upside down beside the K2? 73 Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for January 20th 21st, 2008
Good Afternoon, The new schedule is forcing me to eat later. This is then causing me to postpone the reports until later in the evening. Well, it got very late because I got caught up in reading; until about 1 AM! By that time it was too late for me to get this written and posted. So it goes out today after chores. Last night the bands were pretty good but there were various types of QSB reported across the continent. From slow waves to fast flutter; from differences of up to 4 points between high and low to just barely noticeable. But we worked through them all. I don't think I missed anyone who was calling but on the second net I was having problems differentiating folks who wanted me and those who did not. The weather has gotten cold here so I am carrying more wood and Sam is getting very friendly with the woodstove. Currently he is underneath it! Coldest temperature goes to Ken in North Dakota. He beat Rick in Alaska by quite a bit. Below zero temperatures with a lot of snow, typical North Dakota winter. Even as far south as Georgia folks were reporting cold temperatures. Pete mentioned 55 degrees as cold but I am not sure if that counts :) The lists = On 14049.5 kHz at 2300z: N0SS - Tom - MO - K3 - 008 W0CZ - Ken - ND - K2 - 1031 K9DMV - Joe - IL - K2 - 5628 N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866 QNI #95 WB3AAL - Ron - PA - K2 - 1392 W0RSR - Mike - CO - K2 - 5767 QNI #55!!! WA7BOC - Roger - WA - K3 - 75 QNI #75!!! K6DGW - Fred - CA - K2 - 4398 W6ZH - Pete - CA - K1 - 553 K7TQ - Randy - ID - K2 - 213 N7KRT - Jeff - NV - K2 - 5471 K1THP - Dave - CT - K2 - 3942 QNI #30!! KS7D - Mike - FL - K3 - 118 KL7CW - Rick - AK - KX1 - 798 K4JPN - Steve - GA - K2 - 1422 AB9V - Mike - IN - K2 - 3993 N0BK - Bruce - MN - K2 - 3646 On 7045.5 kHz at 0100z: W6ZH - Pete - CA - K1 - 553 QNI #95 W0CZ - Ken - ND - K2 - 1031 K4JPN - Steve - GA - K2 - 1422 AB9V - Mike - IN - K2 - 3993 W0RSR - Mike - CO - K2 - 5767 W0JFR - John - CO - K2 - 4507 N7KRT - Jeff - NV - K2 - 5471 WB5BKL - Nick - TX - K1 - 293 W0SZ - Steve - CO - K3 - 176QNI #20!! KS7D - Mike - FL - K3 - 118 NK6A - Don - CA - K2 - 1217 K9DMV - Joe - IL - K2 - 5628 The sun is shining but it is surely not warming the place up any. The woodstove is packed with the vents wide open. Hopefully it will keep us warm tonight. The forecast is for a slight break in the pattern by late in the week. Right now I am in a wind pattern which starts in the Gulf of Alaska. I had to beat on the wood pile with a maul to get the chunks of wood free. Seems like the thaw we had last week left enough moisture to cement the entire pile together. It is seasoned wood even if it is not fully dry. A few hours by the stove dries it out nicely. Until next week stay well, 73, Kevin. KD5ONS (Net Control Operator 5th Class) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil
Don's numbers are way low both for our current shipping rate and and for our backlog. :-) 73, Eric WA6HHQ - Don Wilhelm wrote: If you want to know the numbers, Elecraft is currently shipping 15 to 20 K3s per week, and if the shipping date for current orders is mid-April, then there is somewhere between 255 and 340 K3s on order right now - simple calculation reveals that result - what more information do some folks need? 73, Don W3FPR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 #266
Right, that blows my theory of 250 for the first prodn run! Beginning to look like 300 then. Chris G3SJJ Remember that there are about 25 test K3's so the 1st production run could still be 250 units. 73 Rick Dettinger K7MW ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 #266
My thought exactly - and off to the wiki to make a quick change on the estimate before anyone notices. ;-) Current swag, 275 deposit units and 25 without deposits - all shipped by month end. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. ;-) G3SJJ g3sjj at btinternet.com Mon Jan 21 17:53:03 EST 2008 Right, that blows my theory of 250 for the first prodn run! Beginning to look like 300 then. Chris G3SJJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] [K3]- K3 in NAQP SSB
Very nice review and appreciate the objective report! I'm very much looking forward to getting to play with one! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 1:28 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] [K3]- K3 in NAQP SSB List: The new K3 was run through it paces as the 20/40m position at K7ZSD's station for the NAQP SSB Test this last weekend. This was a 12 hour Multi-Two operation at 100 watts power. The ops were KR7X(me),K7ZSD, W7ZB and K7ZS. I was going to shake down the rig in the RTTY RU but that didn't materialize due to work interference. The K3 as set up has the ATU, latest mcu and dsp firmware, 2100, 400 and 250 roofing filters and the 100w PA. Contest observations: 1. Receive audio is very nice, especially with noise cancelling headsets and AFX set to midway. No listening fatigue and it seemed to be easier to pick out calls in the pile-ups (subjective). All ops agreed on this, loved the receive audio. 2. Transmit audio equalization was set up with the help of an audio expert in Arizona. Turned out the best Contest type audio was with some midrange boost and a Heil HC-5 cartridge and not the HC-4. Go figure. 3. Tne auto notch filter is your best contest friend. I was running 20 meters up around 14290+ when some dipstick took offense at contestors in general. The offended station tried to jam me with and amplifier and solid carrier. I just punched in the auto notch and worked 10 stations in a row right through the attemped jam. Didn't even hear the jamming with the notch on. Touche! 4. The roofing filters work just like you would want them to. As you dial down the width in SSB the signal gets skrinched down and eventually loses all intelligability. Works for me. 5. The noise reduction is especially helpful on 40m and we set it at the first setting. It wasn't used much as the station is in a fairly quite location. The noise blanker was not utilized for the same reason. 6. I will be ordering the KXV3 so the receive only beverages can be used on 80 and 160m. 7. The ergonomics are fine. The knobs could be larger, personal preference, but did not cause any concern in the heat of the contest. The rig ran very cool with no apparant heating at all for the whole test. The final tally is that this is a keeper rig and will be the run radio in one of the two SO2R positions at the station with a 1000MP Mark V as the other rig in the setup. I plan on another shake down in the WPX RTTY test as a SO2R operation. Just thought a few hands-on observations would be nice for the list. Ciao and 73 Hank / KR7X We did over 1100 Q's with 500 plus on 20m and 300 plus on 40m ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] [K3]- K3 in NAQP SSB
Good tip! Makes perfect sense but I've just not really done enough filtering with a real radio to figure this one out. I have found that dialing in a bit of shift can tend to help but my radio (TS-450Sat) only has the set of fixed rocks for filtering. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Muns Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 2:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] [K3]- K3 in NAQP SSB 4. The roofing filters work just like you would want them to. As you dial down the width in SSB the signal gets skrinched down and eventually loses all intelligability. Works for me. Not clear how the width was reduced in your operation, but it should be done with the HI CUT control, not the WIDTH control. Once you get down to about 1.5kHz width, then you need to increase LO CUT about 100-200Hz for further width reduction before reducing HI CUT again. Done this way, most signal are very intelligible down to 1.5kHz or so. But using the WIDTH control gives reduced intelligibility even at 2.2kHz. 73, Ed - W0YK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 #266
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008, Don Rasmussen wrote: My thought exactly - and off to the wiki to make a quick change on the estimate before anyone notices. ;-) Yes...because if you have one inaccurate statement, then some folks will assume nothing in the wiki is correct. Current swag, 275 deposit units and 25 without deposits - all shipped by month end. Maybe we can have section on the forum where folks can predict the delivery numbers by certain dates. I would think one interesting point would be when the last deposit paid unit ships...then the flow should be based on order date. You have to admitit's more exciting than watching clothes in the dryer at the laundramat. 73 k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 #266
If I understand the system correctly, the first production run still has to include everyone who ordered in that time frame, but didn't place a deposit. Even when they hit May 14th or so of deposit orders (whatever the cutoff date was), they will then go back 3 weeks start shipping all non-deposit orders. Right, that blows my theory of 250 for the first prodn run! Beginning to look like 300 then. 73, Mike KW1ND ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil
Glad to hear it! Least there will be food on the table and all the hard work is paying off! From the sounds of it you've got quite the amazing kit yet again. Couple rough edges but these are to be expected in a pilot build. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 3:06 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil Don's numbers are way low both for our current shipping rate and and for our backlog. :-) 73, Eric WA6HHQ - Don Wilhelm wrote: If you want to know the numbers, Elecraft is currently shipping 15 to 20 K3s per week, and if the shipping date for current orders is mid-April, then there is somewhere between 255 and 340 K3s on order right now - simple calculation reveals that result - what more information do some folks need? 73, Don W3FPR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 #266
Well my order was in just about 4 hours before the official end of 1st run orders, so I reckon that will be a reasonable pointer. I think it is being prepared at this very minute, so your figure and timing for without deposits might be close. Guess what, we will have to do all this again if or when the sub rx actually happens!! Could just get my K3 in time for CQWW160 CW net weekend, now that really would be nice! Chris G3SJJ Don Rasmussen wrote: My thought exactly - and off to the wiki to make a quick change on the estimate before anyone notices. ;-) Current swag, 275 deposit units and 25 without deposits - all shipped by month end. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. ;-) G3SJJ g3sjj at btinternet.com Mon Jan 21 17:53:03 EST 2008 Right, that blows my theory of 250 for the first prodn run! Beginning to look like 300 then. Chris G3SJJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 #266
I think so. So Don's 275 plus 25 might be good. Yes, 14th May at 1800z was the originally announced cut off. Sorry for all the posts, I guess A) the excitement of my very impending K3 and B) the culmination of 3 months of watching serial numbers! Chris G3SJJ Mike B wrote: If I understand the system correctly, the first production run still has to include everyone who ordered in that time frame, but didn't place a deposit. Even when they hit May 14th or so of deposit orders (whatever the cutoff date was), they will then go back 3 weeks start shipping all non-deposit orders. Right, that blows my theory of 250 for the first prodn run! Beginning to look like 300 then. 73, Mike KW1ND ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Threw my hat in the (K3) ring
I was in the QRP forum at Dayton last May, among those ooohhing and ahhhing at the K-3. I stopped at the Elecraft booth and got a K3 button. I've looked at the website nearly every day since then. A couple times, I even went so far as bringing up the shopping cart. Took a deep breath today, and pressed the order button for a K3/100 kit and two CW roofing filters. The K3 will replace my Omni 6 as my workhorse DX rig. My experience with Elecraft (building a KX1 then a K2) has been excellent. I like having the opportunity to purchase such quality radio gear here in the US. 73, Chuck NI0C K2 (QRP) s/n 5853 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] want to buy a KIO2
My email is tmillerj at comcast.net Thanks 73, tom n3ckk -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/want-to-buy-a-KIO2-tp15007600p15009781.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] The case of the reclusive decimal point:
K1 Gurus: I have a K1 that does not display the decimal point. It has appeared occasionally, but most of the time it is invisible. On one camping trip it was visible for 2 hrs. This weekend it was visible in the late night for 4 hrs , but not visible in the early morning, and it was definitely cold at both times. At the home shack it is almost never visible. The only times I have seen it are when I am camping..maybe it is telling me something? I sometimes am able to see a shadow of its existence if I look at the display at an acute angle. I have examined the display connections and re-heated the joints adjacent to the point. I have passed a toothbrush over those same connections and the decimal has re-appeared for a short look around but then returns to its lair. I assume this is from static electricity. Could humidity have anything to do with the problem? Assuming that this decimal can be made to unveil itself long before its brother sun spots make regular appearances, I would like some advise on how to encourage it along. Otherwise this K1 display seems to be functioning correctly. Thanks! Stewart KE7LKW K1 #2257 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil
[Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil Granted it's my perception of it, but I do have two frames of reference for the K3 announcement and release. There was the original K2 product, supported by this reflector, and then the Orion announcement and release. It provides some perspective on what K3 owners might call rough edges. To keep this in perspective, Orion was introduced in January 2002 and the first scheduled ship date was September 2002. It wasn't until late March 2003 that the initial version of the radio was making it's way to anxious customers. There were no estimates other than the September 2002 target and even if you were curious you just waited. This may be one of Elecraft's hindsight issues, putting too much information information out there. Fourteen months later after announcement (as compared to K3's six month wait) units were shipped with a fair amount of rough edges, many of which required the unit to be sent back to the factory for hardware revisions. The software was a moving target as well, with frequent updates that added new features, and destabilized others that worked. Some units would lock up with processor faults while they were being used. Keep in mind that this was a $3300 base radio that already had 12 months from vaporware to the table. This happened to me at a field day, the normally quiet receiver became -really really- quiet. What happened? The owner immediatly recognized it and restarted it for me. Reboot was an advised resolution to any number of issues that popped up regularly. There was eventually a redesign of the bandscope that was faulting the processor and the firmware was rewritten to increase reliability. That's when Orion II came along. I expect no K3, version II. Orion owners today, three years later, seem satisfied. But oh, back in the day. So my expected three month wait for K3 went to 9 months. That's the roughest of the rough edges. I'm told I'll have a reliable unit out of the box. I paid $2300 for the shooting match loaded up the way I wanted it. Someone some day may do it better, but for the time being, this roll out is the standard. I'm not denying that a 6 month wait, the subrx delay, etc... are not rough edges, just that IMO they are greatly the lesser in comparison to what I know. http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Where_are_the_production_units%3F [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil Brett Howard brett at livecomputers.com Mon Jan 21 18:26:21 EST 2008 Previous message: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil Next message: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Glad to hear it! Least there will be food on the table and all the hard work is paying off! From the sounds of it you've got quite the amazing kit yet again. Couple rough edges but these are to be expected in a pilot build. -Original Message- From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 3:06 PM To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil Don's numbers are way low both for our current shipping rate and and for our backlog. :-) 73, Eric WA6HHQ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: K2 elation!
Gee, somebody actually enjoying the hobby of ham radio instead of writing posts of compaint. How refreshing! 73 Bob K4LW Had to share the elation: snagged FO/OH1RX on 80 M CW at gray line this morning -- K2 running 5 W to 135 foot doublet, window line feed, at 50 feet. Mike, K8CN K2 #5569 New Hampshire ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] The case of the reclusive decimal point:
Stewart, You said you have resoldered the LCD connections, but what about the other end of the wire? Granted, the 'wire' in this case is a PC trace, but the same rule holds, both ends must be firmly connected for current to flow unimpeded. Check Front Panel U1 pins 15 and 21 carefully, in fact, check all the soldering at the U1 pins. Not meaning to criticize your work without seeing your soldering, BUT ... There is a tendency among builders to apply too much solder, and that will mask a solder connection that was not properly heated. If your solder connections do not have a concave appearance on the fillet (especially if they have a convex surface), too much solder may have been applied - the solution is to wick away most all the solder and reheat/resolder each suspicious connection. A good solder connection will have an almost invisible edge on both the solder pad and the component lead. Someone on this reflector stated it quite nicely - The solder connections should look like mountains, but not volcanoes! Check out the soldering tutorial on the Elecraft website if you do not know what a good solder connection should look like - there are good diagrams in that document. 73, Don W3FPR Catherine Flick Stewart Fletcher wrote: K1 Gurus: I have a K1 that does not display the decimal point. It has appeared occasionally, but most of the time it is invisible. On one camping trip it was visible for 2 hrs. This weekend it was visible in the late night for 4 hrs , but not visible in the early morning, and it was definitely cold at both times. At the home shack it is almost never visible. The only times I have seen it are when I am camping..maybe it is telling me something? I sometimes am able to see a shadow of its existence if I look at the display at an acute angle. I have examined the display connections and re-heated the joints adjacent to the point. I have passed a toothbrush over those same connections and the decimal has re-appeared for a short look around but then returns to its lair. I assume this is from static electricity. Could humidity have anything to do with the problem? Assuming that this decimal can be made to unveil itself long before its brother sun spots make regular appearances, I would like some advise on how to encourage it along. Otherwise this K1 display seems to be functioning correctly. Thanks! Stewart KE7LKW K1 #2257 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 production schedule
Eric posted updated shipping schedule today, 1/21, on Elecraft's website. Production does seem to be really moving up. Steve, W6HPK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] How about switching VFO A B knobs.
Well, David, I'm sure you can get it all figured out in due time. de Joe, aa4nn - Original Message - From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think I'd like the option of being able to tune VFO B (sub-Rx when I get it) on VFO A, but still stay in split and not have to do an A/B tap. I'm thinking that while I'm trying to work that split pile-up and I've got the guys run frequency, I'd rather like to use the larger knob and controls to listen for the QSX freq. It's not convenient to use A/B, because you have to tap it before you transmit and I might forget. [B SET] does not switch the tuning as far as I can tell, just how the filters are being set. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil
Oh believe me you I personally have put beta units into a customers hands that were rougher but was forced to do so because of financial or marketing reasons. Not that I wanted to but sometimes you just have to. The rough edges that I speak of are simply some of the firmware upgrade type things (I believe it seems that one of the guys has bricked his unit). And the stuff that is listed in the K3 Errata as things that are on the board to be implemented. I'm a bit of a late comer and didn't jump in sight unseen without asking questions such as what of it is done and what not. Any time I'm going in on the ground floor of something my questions would read what is done and how much testing has been done with the unit in its full featured configuration. These are questions that you just ask when you are coming in on the ground floor. I have a feeling that if people had asked these questions Elecraft would have been candid about it. The fact that the incomplete features as of yet are called out in the errata document is pretty forthcoming and honest in my opinion. Currently I'm in the process of finishing off my MBA and I don't have as much time to operate as I'd like to so I'm in a good position to wait but I can assure you all I'll own a K3! Oh and to EVERYONE who has purchased one and even more to everyone that has one. THANK YOU for buying one, running it, testing it, taking pictures of it, and telling me about it. Your doing so not only informs me of how wonderful it is it informs Elecraft of what work needs done! Having the end user doing the pilot test is fantastic if your customer base is intelligent enough to do so (and knows that they are doing it). Unlike the Microsoft business model where every one is a beta tester for several years after each new release and most have no idea of that fact! Again thanks all for the K3 reports and thank you Don for the perspective on the rough edges. I meant them in the kindest of senses! The K3 truly is a gem! ~Brett (KC7OTG) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Rasmussen Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 4:15 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil Granted it's my perception of it, but I do have two frames of reference for the K3 announcement and release. There was the original K2 product, supported by this reflector, and then the Orion announcement and release. It provides some perspective on what K3 owners might call rough edges. To keep this in perspective, Orion was introduced in January 2002 and the first scheduled ship date was September 2002. It wasn't until late March 2003 that the initial version of the radio was making it's way to anxious customers. There were no estimates other than the September 2002 target and even if you were curious you just waited. This may be one of Elecraft's hindsight issues, putting too much information information out there. Fourteen months later after announcement (as compared to K3's six month wait) units were shipped with a fair amount of rough edges, many of which required the unit to be sent back to the factory for hardware revisions. The software was a moving target as well, with frequent updates that added new features, and destabilized others that worked. Some units would lock up with processor faults while they were being used. Keep in mind that this was a $3300 base radio that already had 12 months from vaporware to the table. This happened to me at a field day, the normally quiet receiver became -really really- quiet. What happened? The owner immediatly recognized it and restarted it for me. Reboot was an advised resolution to any number of issues that popped up regularly. There was eventually a redesign of the bandscope that was faulting the processor and the firmware was rewritten to increase reliability. That's when Orion II came along. I expect no K3, version II. Orion owners today, three years later, seem satisfied. But oh, back in the day. So my expected three month wait for K3 went to 9 months. That's the roughest of the rough edges. I'm told I'll have a reliable unit out of the box. I paid $2300 for the shooting match loaded up the way I wanted it. Someone some day may do it better, but for the time being, this roll out is the standard. I'm not denying that a 6 month wait, the subrx delay, etc... are not rough edges, just that IMO they are greatly the lesser in comparison to what I know. http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Where_are_the_production_unit s%3F [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil Brett Howard brett at livecomputers.com Mon Jan 21 18:26:21 EST 2008 Previous message: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil Next message: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Glad to hear it! Least
RE: [Elecraft] K3 update problem
Would you go back to the Windows Device Manager, find the properties page, Driver Tab for the USB to Serial Adapter cable, and let me know what driver version you've installed? A couple of people had to install drivers a couple of times. Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 2:44 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Elecraft] K3 update problem Hi, After having successfully completed several updates of the firmware of my K3, it suddenly has stopped working, my K3 is not responding. After seeing this I upgraded the K3 update utility to the latest and greatest, also new drivers for my original Elecraft delivered USB-serial converter. Forcing K3 into MCU upload mode doesn't work Any ideas? vy 73 Eric PA3CEV K2 960 K3 122 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1232 - Release Date: 18-1-2008 19:32 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] eHam K3 Reviews?
Guys, With at least 266 K3s out there in the world I would expect to see at least 26.6 reviews on the eHam Reviews website. Yet there are only 18! Okay, some of you may prefer to wait at least a week before writing a review, but that still comes out to somewhere around 24! For your convenience, the direct URL for adding your K3 review is ... http://www.eham.net/reviews/addreview/6673 Thanks in advance. Your comments will help those of us who are less fortunate and still waiting for our K3s to arrive, to stay focused as we await this revolutionary new product. 73, Gary KI4GGX K2 #4067 K3 #tbd ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:15:21 -0800 (PST), you wrote: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil [snip] Orion owners today, three years later, seem satisfied. But oh, back in the day. So my expected three month wait for K3 went to 9 months. That's the roughest of the rough edges. I'm told I'll have a reliable unit out of the box. [snip] I am an Orion II owner for more than a year and although the rig is a step above my FT-1000MP MK V (sold), I am not completely satisfied with the RX hiss, Ineffective NB, No 6m capability, Poor auto notch performance, band scope that doesn't update during XMT and is up to 1/4 second slow to update during RX and last but not least an AGC that cannot be turned off (Off means 1000db per second decay, not off, which means transverter noise figure adjustments are impossible.). I look forward to my Fully Optioned, Factory Assembled K3 in Feb. or March (according to Lisa) and I am not worried in the least about any delays needed to improve it's performance. Keep up the good work, Elecraft! Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 6M Preamp?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might be the only person to buy a K3 to operate just one band! Nope. :-) Though I do plan to get back on HF at some point in the next year or two, for the time being I'm exclusively one of those infernal 6m freaks... I mean, operators. :-) Getting the K3 essentially for use on 6m. Bill W5WVO K3 in April 2008 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KAT100 Initial Test Failure
I am at step 1 of KAT100 testing. When K2 is turned on, indicators default to Ant 1 and Low Power. I cant get them to change, as my ATU is unrecognized. I am using latest firmware. I have traced the Aux bus from my K2/100 board all the way into the KAT100. I reflowed all the solder joints at the MCU, and even replaced the MCU. When the K2 goes into transmit the 4 MHz clock does appear. I am lost as to how to proceed. Has anyone run into a similar malady? I didn't try taking off the front panel board, but I think I have tried everything else. How do I know my K2 is producing a useful aux bus to communicate with the KAT100 ? My K2 is #2117 - yes I did modify the resistor required on the K2 control board. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil
OK Eric, You're as bad as that girl I knew in High School ;-) On 21 Jan 2008 at 18:25, Eric Swartz wrote: Don's numbers are way low both for our current shipping rate and and for our backlog. :-) 73, Eric WA6HHQ So what are the *REAL* numbers??? - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 6M Preamp?
Bill W5WVO wrote: Getting the K3 essentially for use on 6m. So, should we start using SMIRK3 ? :) cu on six. 73 de tom k8t ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 update problem
I have a question about the drivers and the update software. Are they Vista compatible? Stan Rife W5EWA Houston, TX K2 S/N 4216 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Listen up
Congratulations for calling the whiners and malcontents to task for their disgraceful behavior. I, for one, wish that the reflector was 'monitored' to weed out the thrash. Eric is the monitor (moderator) and does his job...Unfortunately, he is one of the targets of all the vitriol and is in the unenviable position of appearing self-serving and biased if he edits out the gripers, complainers, and lechery...The rest of us here are the losers...We all like to think that all hams are fine folks, but unfortunately, that is not true, as woefully demonstrated here... Jerry, wa2dkg ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] The case of the reclusive decimal point:
On Mon Jan 21 2008 at 19:39 Don wrote ... ... the solution is to wick away most all the solder and reheat/resolder each suspicious connection. -- I'm not an expert on the subject of soldering but I know someone who is. While watching her reheat a joint I noted that she first applied a drop of liquid flux from a small pen-like dispenser. She explained that you should always add flux when reheating a joint otherwise the heat can cause oxidation which can make thing worse instead of better. I hope someone will find this comment helpful. 73, Gary KI4GGX P.S. Great subject line Stewart! Reminds me of those Perry Mason made-for-TV movies! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] OK, Children - Listen Up!
At 04:14 PM 1/21/2008, Pete wrote... Congratulations for calling the whiners and malcontents to task for their disgraceful behavior. I, for one, wish that the reflector was 'monitored' to weed out the thrash. Like self-appointed moderators? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 and PSK
I'm considering adding KSB2 to do some PSK. The $99 price seems very good to add an allband capability rather than something like a Warbler. Is there any reason to get a KDSP2 for PSK purposes rather than the KAF2 which I already have? No microphone in my plans... 73 jim ab3cv ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 update problem
The K3 Utility (and the KUSB drivers) work on Windows Vista. I'm using a Vista laptop as one of my two primary test machines. I use the Elecraft KUSB and I got the Vista drivers from the Microsoft Update web site when I first plugged the KUSB in, without using the driver diskette that came with the KUSB. I just plugged the KUSB in and waited while Microsoft Update did its work automatically. The K3 Utility includes a Vista-aware exe manifest so that Vista is informed directly that the K3 Utility requests no special privileges. Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan Rife Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:50 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 update problem I have a question about the drivers and the update software. Are they Vista compatible? Stan Rife W5EWA Houston, TX K2 S/N 4216 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: build rate?
They are working 7 days a week, and getting 15- 20 K3's built a week, thats 2-3 radios a day? Hard to see them making money that way! I bought a ten tec Triton 2 off ebay today to use for CW, anyone know if they are any good at all? $150.00 is not much for a radio and power supply! If anyone has any info about the Triton, please email me off list about it. Eham does not even list it!! Thanks, Brett If you want to know the numbers, Elecraft is currently shipping 15 to 20 K3s per week, and if the shipping date for current orders is mid-April, then there is somewhere between 255 and 340 K3s on order right now - simple calculation reveals that result - what more information do some folks need? 73, Don W3FPR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil
I look forward to my Fully Optioned, Factory Assembled K3 in Feb. or March (according to Lisa) and I am not worried in the least about any delays needed to improve it's performance. Keep up the good work, Elecraft! Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq = Another data point. Tom, what we gotta know is, when did you place the order? 73 Rick Dettinger K7MW ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil
I second that comment. Please leave this well alone, let Elecraft get onto production without a lot of comments. Their product is marvellous, be happy and leave them alone. STOP whining. Ross ZL1WN - Original Message - From: Rick Dettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Silver tongued devil I look forward to my Fully Optioned, Factory Assembled K3 in Feb. or March (according to Lisa) and I am not worried in the least about any delays needed to improve it's performance. Keep up the good work, Elecraft! Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq = Another data point. Tom, what we gotta know is, when did you place the order? 73 Rick Dettinger K7MW ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com __ NOD32 2813 (20080122) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] human behaviour
In a joke, a guy complains about bad breath while brown-nosing the other one. Whenever folks get together, be it in a church or a soccer club, they will act in a certain way. Some will put down others to promote themselves. That's normal in our pluralistic society. There is constructive criticism which can be very good and destructive criticism. The latter has been popping up here. Some will find fault with every product out there, others get fixated and obsessed... All manufacturers reserve the right to alter their products. The K2's evolution speaks for itself and if I ever had any problem with my (not yet delivered) K3 I know one thing and this is incredibly good: I will get help from kind and knowledgeable folks on this reflector! If there is a missing part or any defect, Elecraft will resolve it asap. Let's all hope that those who have been attacked will shrug it off and continue to give their best, even if there is Schadenfreude and booing - just ask any pro soccer player! And even Believers might be too much: I'll bet the Pope would take up cursing loudly when he had to deal with some believers. Wives know this: some days, their husbands come home in a foul mood. Bitter, rude and whingeing. Every little thing will be a welcome excuse to project their frustration. Okay, so some are unhappy that Elecraft hired engineering and other staff instead of PR consultants. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] human behaviour
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:57:00 +0700, you wrote: [snip Okay, so some are unhappy that Elecraft hired engineering and other staff instead of PR consultants. [snip] I suspect Elecraft have no MBAs on their staff either ;o) Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
