[Elecraft] Calling CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread Frank MacDonell
I have a K3/10 with a 66' dipole in the attic and I am running 5 watts
with incredible reach. From Detroit, I am reaching FL, WA and Ottawa.
But my contacts have been when I answer a CQ. When I call CQ, I do not
seem to get a call back. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. The Reflector
is an incredible resource.

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Frank KD8FIP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AM TX - Questions and Observations

2010-05-11 Thread Tom W8JI
I can't speak for details on the K3. Only generally.

 I also have a question regarding asymetric AM modulation 
 and the K3 - is it
 possible for the TX to exceed 100% positive modulation 
 whilst maintaining
 less than 100% negative? Being only new to the AM mode, I 
 am not sure if it
 is possible with any TX that uses low level modulation. 
 Any info greatly
 appreciated.

It is actually easier to have clean asymmetrical modulation 
with low-level AM than it is with a tetrode in a plate 
modulated circuit. It is also easier to have better 
linearity with low level modulation.

http://www.w8ji.com/amplitude_modulation.htm

Someday I'll have to get an AM filter and try my K3. I guess 
there is no way to use the transmitter without an AM 
filter

73 Tom 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AM TX - Questions and Observations

2010-05-11 Thread Duncan Carter
Using the FM filter for AM transmit has been requested but may or may 
not happen.  According to Wayne,  this depends on whether it can meet 
transmit specs and development priorities.  I'd like to have AM mainly 
to work one friend who is running 1950s Harvey Wells gear but all the 
filter slots in my K3 are filled already.  The FM filter does work fine 
for receiving AM, at least for KCFR, one of my wife's favorite public 
radio stations.

Dunc, W5DC
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Update on the Availability of Legacy Rework Eliminator(TM) Accessories!

2010-05-11 Thread lstavenhagen

But wouldn't that be the advantage of using Gary's RW eliminators - that you
wouldn't have to make them yourself, or do any guesswork as far as
dimensions, etc?

If I had planned on adding more features to my K2 in the future, the RW
eliminators seemed like a good way to go for a very reasonable price. There
was a cost in terms of having to work them into the build, sure, but
otherwise they looked like good items to me. 

I stopped at the NB and ant. tuner on my K2, but seems to me to be a good
alternative if I had planned on going further with it.

JMO,

73,
LS
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 use questions

2010-05-11 Thread drewko
BTW, here are a couple of things you can do to achieve a better match
with the KAT3:

If you tap ATU TUNE again within a few moments after the first tune
attempt the KAT3 will go into a more comprehensive tuning mode. It
takes longer but may find a better match.

You may also be able to obtain a better match by manually setting the
tuning elements. I had that situation on 160m where the KAT3 could get
to SWR 3.5:1 but I could improve it to under 2.0 with the manual
settings (Config Menu: KAT3/LCSet).

73,
Drew
AF2Z



On Mon, 10 May 2010 14:45:10 -0600, Stan, KR7C wrote:

I just finished building a K3 (#4181) and have a question about using the
KAT3.
When I hit the ATU button with the KAT3 enabled, it does its thing for a
second or two and then flashes a SWR value on the display as expected.  I
want to operate on 80m with a VERY limited choice of antennas.

My questions  are:
1) If the displayed SWR is, say, 4.1:1, does that tell me that the ATU
successfully matched the load and that I can operate the radio without fear
of damage?
2) What does the display indicate when it cannot achieve a reasonable match
and I should not operate the radio?

Thanks for any info on this.

73, Stan, KR7C


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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Update on the Availability of Legacy Rework Eliminator(TM) Accessories!

2010-05-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
The point was that Gary and Ken have no more Un-PCB modules left.  So 
now one either has to find them somewhere, or make their own or just not 
bother and install the options as they are built.  Adding the options 
later is not a difficult task at all - solder some headers in and 
clip/unsolder jumpers for the most part.

73,
Don W3FPR

lstavenhagen wrote:
 But wouldn't that be the advantage of using Gary's RW eliminators - that you
 wouldn't have to make them yourself, or do any guesswork as far as
 dimensions, etc?

   
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Re: [Elecraft] Calling CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread Steve Ellington
I suppose if I had that problem, I would establish a QSO with someone who 
had a good signal then ask them to stand by while you call CQ and ask them 
to listen and respond to it. That might eliminate the luck factor.
Steve
N4LQ
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From: Frank MacDonell kd8...@gmail.com
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Subject: [Elecraft] Calling CQ on PSK-31


I have a K3/10 with a 66' dipole in the attic and I am running 5 watts
 with incredible reach. From Detroit, I am reaching FL, WA and Ottawa.
 But my contacts have been when I answer a CQ. When I call CQ, I do not
 seem to get a call back. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. The Reflector
 is an incredible resource.

 -- 
 Frank KD8FIP
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Re: [Elecraft] Calling CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread lstavenhagen

Just a thought from a PSK beginner, a 3 by 3 CQ in PSK31 is really short if
you do the (IMO) right thing and listen carefully in between each CQ. Just a
few seconds. Same with a CQ in CW at 20wpm or more, you're only on the air
for a really short time. So unless the other station has a pan adapter, the
likelihood of them happening to hear you during those times is pretty small
unless it's a contest or QSO party situation.

Fortunately, there's not much shortage of other stations calling CQ if the
band is open and during active times (i.e. in the morning or the evening
when folks are coming home from work) so there's still plenty of
opportunities to make QSO's.  As pan adapters come into more widespread use,
it'll be easier to browse the band for other stations too.

So as my elmers used to tell me years ago, be patient and keep listening...

73,
LS
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Re: [Elecraft] Calling CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread Steve Ellington
Panadapter?
You can see most of the PSK section of any band on the software's 
waterfallAssuming you're using software ie. MIXW etc.
Steve
N4LQ
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 Just a thought from a PSK beginner, a 3 by 3 CQ in PSK31 is really short 
 if
 you do the (IMO) right thing and listen carefully in between each CQ. Just 
 a
 few seconds. Same with a CQ in CW at 20wpm or more, you're only on the air
 for a really short time. So unless the other station has a pan adapter, 
 the
 likelihood of them happening to hear you during those times is pretty 
 small
 unless it's a contest or QSO party situation.

 Fortunately, there's not much shortage of other stations calling CQ if the
 band is open and during active times (i.e. in the morning or the evening
 when folks are coming home from work) so there's still plenty of
 opportunities to make QSO's.  As pan adapters come into more widespread 
 use,
 it'll be easier to browse the band for other stations too.

 So as my elmers used to tell me years ago, be patient and keep 
 listening...

 73,
 LS
 W5QD
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Re: [Elecraft] Calling CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread lstavenhagen

Ah, very good point, tnx Steve. My CW bias and PSK beginnerism is showing
here hi hi... 

73,
LS
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 use questions

2010-05-11 Thread d.cutter
Drew

How do you return to that manually set value without going through that 
procedure each time?  Does it remember manual settings as well as auto-tune 
settings?

David
G3UNA

 

 
 You may also be able to obtain a better match by manually setting the
 tuning elements. I had that situation on 160m where the KAT3 could get
 to SWR 3.5:1 but I could improve it to under 2.0 with the manual
 settings (Config Menu: KAT3/LCSet).
 
 73,
 Drew
 AF2Z
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Calling CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread Julian, G4ILO

Format your CQs so they include DE call call (i.e. your call twice after
the DE.) Then use this site http://psk.gladstonefamily.net/pskmap.html to
see whether anyone received you.

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* G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
* KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
* KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html

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[Elecraft] Subject: Re: Calling CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread Jon Perelstein
I find I have the same experience, and I typically run 20w on PSK.  I have no 
clue as to why that happens.  I have pretty good luck at getting QSOs when I 
respond to CQs, but I rarely see anyone responding to my own CQs.

I have noticed that the longer my CQ string, or the more I repeat it, the more 
frequently I get a response to the CQ.  I've also noticed a lot of stations 
that repeat their 3x3 CQs at least two or three times before they get an answer.

Panadapter?
You can see most of the PSK section of any band on the 
software's 
waterfallAssuming you're using software ie. MIXW etc.

Just because I can see it on the waterfall doesn't mean that I have any idea if 
it's a CQ or not.  And if it's a short CQ, by the time I click over to it, it's 
gone.

A couple of products (e.g., Digipan) show you the text from multiple 
transmissions at a time, but not all the major products do that (e.g., DM780).

Jon
KB1QBZ

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Re: [Elecraft] Calling CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread Wes Stewart
Personally, I don't have the patience for PSK (I don't care to hear what
 kind of computer you're using and your dog's name on the first over) so
 my experience is limited.

That said, although I know PSK has a reputation for being a mode where you 
don't need higher power or good antennas, your power is 10-20 dB below what the 
other guys are probably running and your antenna is another 10-20 dB below a 
dipole in the clear.

When you answer someone he is more likely to pull you out than he would be if 
he was looking around for a QSO.  Another factor if there are a lot of signals 
on the band is the poor (IMHO) practice of running the receiver with wide open 
i-f bandwidth.  If there is a strong signal in the pass-band the AGC will tend 
to suppress the weaker signals.  Of course, there is nothing you can do at your 
end about this.

You are between a rock and a hard spot.  You need to call long enough for 
someone to find you and their decoder to lock on to your signal and not so long 
that guys like me who find you think, Will this guy ever stop calling
 CQ?

Also, I assume that you're calling on a band that is open.  The bands are open 
more that a lot of people think, as a check of beacons can show; however, 
calling CQ with QRP and poor antennas will not bring much success without a lot 
of patience on your part.

Hang in there or QRO.

Wes  N7WS




--- On Tue, 5/11/10, Frank MacDonell kd8...@gmail.com wrote:

I have a K3/10 with a 66' dipole in the attic and I am running 5 watts
with incredible reach. From Detroit, I am reaching FL, WA and Ottawa.
But my contacts have been when I answer a CQ. When I call CQ, I do not
seem to get a call back. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. The Reflector
is an incredible resource.

-- 
Frank KD8FIP




  
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Re: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: Calling CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread Phil Hystad
On May 11, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Jon Perelstein wrote:

 Just because I can see it on the waterfall doesn't mean that I have any idea 
 if it's a CQ or not.  And if it's a short CQ, by the time I click over to it, 
 it's gone.

Which is a good reason to buy an Apple Mac and help to increase my AAPL stock 
value even more...

The CocoaModem digital interface application that runs only on the Mac has a 
very nifty feature.  Even if a waterfall trace of a message is over, as long as 
it is in the displayed buffer you can click on it and see the text of that 
stream for the amount of the buffer contents that is retained.

This feature allows me to click on any obvious current or previous stream 
(previous of course is dependent on the buffer history) to interpret the 
contents.  Often I have caught a CQ call this way and can step right in and 
respond.

Of course, I  have not used too many other digital interface applications so I 
am not sure if this particular feature is available elsewhere.
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Re: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: Calling CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread Jens Petersen
On Tue, 11 May 2010 09:14:10 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:


A couple of products (e.g., Digipan) show you the text from multiple 
transmissions at a time, but not all the major products do that 
(e.g., DM780).

In DM780 we have 'SuperBrowser' that can show up to 60 QSOs at one
time.

And in chat mode you can click on the waterfall and have the program
decoding a missed signal.
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Re: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: Calling CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread Jon Perelstein
It is available on DM780.  I'm not sure about others.

--- On Tue, 5/11/10, Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com wrote:
Which is a good reason to buy an Apple Mac and help to increase my AAPL stock 
value even more...

The CocoaModem digital interface application that runs only on the Mac has a 
very nifty feature.  Even if a waterfall trace of a message is over, as long as 
it is in the displayed buffer you can click on it and see the text of that 
stream for the amount of the buffer contents that is retained.
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Re: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: Calling CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread Fumiaki Okushi
The feature described below (playback trace still in the buffer) is also 
available in Fldigi (which I happen to use for PSK).

Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV

From: Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: Calling CQ on PSK-31
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 09:30:44 -0700

 On May 11, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Jon Perelstein wrote:
 
 Just because I can see it on the waterfall doesn't mean that I have any idea 
 if it's a CQ or not.  And if it's a short CQ, by the time I click over to 
 it, it's gone.
 
 The CocoaModem digital interface application that runs only on the Mac has a 
 very nifty feature.  Even if a waterfall trace of a message is over, as long 
 as it is in the displayed buffer you can click on it and see the text of that 
 stream for the amount of the buffer contents that is retained.
 
 This feature allows me to click on any obvious current or previous stream 
 (previous of course is dependent on the buffer history) to interpret the 
 contents.  Often I have caught a CQ call this way and can step right in and 
 respond.
 
 Of course, I  have not used too many other digital interface applications so 
 I am not sure if this particular feature is available elsewhere.
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[Elecraft] Calling CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread Parker Buckley

This is pure speculation.  I've observed the same thing running QRP on
digital modes.  I believe it could be a simple matter of the QRP signals
being less bright on the typical waterfall compared to someone running 30-50
watts, and it's probably only natural that someone looking for a QSO will
click on the brighter signals.  Even though copy may be 100% on the dimmer
trace, folks wanting a solid connection will gravitate to the bright traces.
There is probably no way to confirm this, but I also have had better luck
responding to someone else's CQ, and usually they have no problem with my
signal.

Parker
WD8JOL K2 2636




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Re: [Elecraft] Calling CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread Rich - K1HTV
LS, W5QD writes in reference to short PSK31 CQs:

... unless the other station has a pan adapter, the
likelihood of them happening to hear you during those times is pretty small
unless it's a contest or QSO party situation.

LS, 
Some PSK31 decoding software is designed to simultaneously copy multiple PSK31
signals, each on a separate line. I've used Digipan for years. When it decodes
the letters CQ from a station, the entire line background color changes from
white to another color on each line with a CQ' in it. So even a 1x1 CQ will
show up boldly using Digipan. Other software may also have this feature. A
simple click on that line will quickly put you on the correct frequency to
answer the CQ. If you haven't yet used Digipan, give it a try. It's a free
download from www.digipan.net .

73,
Rich - K1HTV

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Calling CQ on PSK-31

LS, W5QD writes in reference to short PSK31 CQs:

So unless the other station has a pan adapter, the
likelihood of them happening to hear you during those times is pretty small
unless it's a contest or QSO party situation.

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Re: [Elecraft] Calling CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread Wes Stewart
Let me amend that to ...power is 10-12 dB...

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That said, although I know PSK has a reputation for being a mode where you 
don't need higher power or good antennas, your power is 10-20 dB below what the 
other guys are probably running and your antenna is another 10-20 dB below a 
dipole in the clear.


  



  
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Re: [Elecraft] Calling CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Fitzgerald

On May 11, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Wes Stewart wrote:

 That said, although I know PSK has a reputation for being a mode where you 
 don't need higher power or good antennas...

That very well might be the reputation but I would take exception to that 
notion.  Antennae systems *always* matter - especially on the digital modes.

Regarding the original poster's question, I am on the digital modes a lot – 
almost every day.  Finding stations to answer my CQ is highly variable.  Los 
Angeles County in California isn't exactly rare DX.  :-)   A strong, sharp, 
clean trace in the 'fall will attract more responses.  An overdriven trace will 
be shunned but mostly I find it is a matter of patience and looking on the 
right band at the right time.  Julian, G4ILO's excellent suggestion to 
incorporate http://psk.gladstonefamily.net/pskmap.html to find out where people 
are listening and when will go a long way in helping you discover places and 
times you might be heard.  The cool thing about PSK Reporter is that it is a 
tireless listener.  It will log stations for you will you work, sleep or are 
otherwise engaged.  The other day I noticed on PSK Reporter that central 
Eurasia was coming in at around 11pm local on 20m the last few nights.  I 
called CQ and got 16 consecutive responses from European Russia, Asiatic 
Russia, Kazakhstan, Moldova and the Ukraine!  A little mini pile-up. I felt 
like a big gun or a rare DXpedition.

All this with 35 watts and a doublet.

Additionally don't just sit on one frequency calling CQ.  If one isn't working 
it may be that there is another, louder local station that you can't hear at 
all covering you up.  Move, call QRL and try again.

Another country heard from.

73 de Eric, KG6MZS
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Re: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: Calling CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread Kok Chen
On May 11, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Jon Perelstein wrote:

 I have noticed that the longer my CQ string, or the more I repeat it, the 
 more frequently I get a response to the CQ.  I've also noticed a lot of 
 stations that repeat their 3x3 CQs at least two or three times before they 
 get an answer.

With something like PSK31, the receiving station has to achieve phase lock, or 
at the least frequency lock if it is using a non-coherent demodulator.

Evenn with non-coherent demodulation, the local oscillator of the demodulator 
has to get within 7.8 Hz (90 degree phase resolution at the symbol rate of 
BPSK31) to get any copy at all, and if your SNR is poor at the receiving end, 
he really has to get to within 1 Hz.  This means that the receiver could take a 
large part of a second before it can start decoding you.

Your CQ will have to be at least that long, even assuming that your call sign 
is the very last thing that you transmit. 

Most PSK31 software today have the capability of multiple demodulating (similar 
to VE3NEA's Skimmer for CW), and this problem is lessened nowadays.  Many 
people are watching for CQs using the multiple decoders.

 Just because I can see it on the waterfall doesn't mean that I have any idea 
 if it's a CQ or not.  And if it's a short CQ, by the time I click over to it, 
 it's gone.

I had noticed this many years ago.  People were sending CQs that are too short. 
By the time I see a signal on the waterfall to click on it, he has already 
stopped calling.  I had to wait until he calls again.

Because of that, I implemented what I called the click buffer in cocoaModem.  
Think of it as an old fashion tape recorder's tape loop.  The tape allows you 
to go back in time to replay the signal back.  When you click on a signal, the 
demodulator attempts to frequency/phase lock on to that signal.  Once the lock 
is achieved and the local oscillator is locked and not allowed to change 
anymore, the tape loop is played back to the demodulator.  The loop is played 
back at a faster rate than the normal system, so the decoding catches up with 
real time very rapidly.  In cocoaModem, this exhibits itself as a short pause 
right after clicking on the waterfall, and there will be a fast burst of print 
on the screen, followed by the normal steady BPSK31 character rate.

I extended this concept later to a general click buffer (and also to other 
modes; even the CW decoder has it) where there is a constant 20 second (the 
height of cocoaModem's waterfall) tape loop running all the time. 

When you click on the waterfall spectrogram, I collect both the horizontal 
position of the click (to get frequency information) and the vertical position 
of the click (to get time information) and use the time parameter to 
determine how far back in the tape loop you play back to the demodulator when 
you first click on the signal.

With this extended click buffer, you can actually click on a signal that has 
stopped transmitting, and if CQ has appeared within 20 seconds of the last time 
you turned the knob of the rig, you can copy what he sent.  I am sure it is 
disconcerting to the other end to get a reply to their CQ 20 seconds after they 
issued them, and they might attribute that to a slow operator, HI.

If you watch the cursor in the waterfall in this movie of the VP2MUM RTTY 
operation with a K3, you can see Tom (DL2RUM) take advantage of the RTTY click 
buffer in his RUMped program (RUMped use cocoaModem's demodulator for digital 
modes) quite often to pull people after they have already stopped calling:

http://dl2rum.de/rumsoft/VP2MUM_RTTY.mov

The text buffer and RTTY waterfall are in the bottom right hand window.  Watch 
his cursor :-).

With a click buffer, you can get run rates to go pretty high since you seldom 
have to wait for a slow caller to finish identifying itself.  You just jump to 
a different trace on the waterfall that has already finished transmitting.

73
Chen, W7AY



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[Elecraft] Calling CQ on PSK-31 (beacons)

2010-05-11 Thread Hector Padron
The bands are open more that a lot of people think, as a check of beacons can 
show; however, calling CQ with QRP and poor antennas will not bring much 
success without a lot of patience on your part.
 
And for propagation purpose,I have running on 7107 Khz for the last 2 months my 
K3 as a beacon with only 5W about 18 hours a day.I have received lots of 
reports by email from Canada,Venezuela,Colombia and many states as well.Use it 
if you can hear it.73
 
AD4C





  
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Re: [Elecraft] kpa100 in a ec2 w kat100

2010-05-11 Thread Mark - W5EZY

 http://www.kk7p.com/k2kpa100.html

That was the information I used to do mine; it came out great.  Just pay
attention to the details and it will work fine.

Mark, W5EZY

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-11 Thread Jack Brabham
Tim,

I had a similar experience assembling #4169 a few weeks ago.  Unfortunately
my stack of assorted allen wrenches didn't include any that small.

My work around was to grind off the stripped portion of the cheesy allen
wrench each time it stripped.  

It only took about two hours and several wrench grindings to mount the two
split knobs, which was really the only PITA encountered during the assembly.
The allen wrench was much smaller when I finished.

I suspect that a plain old slotted head screw would be more practical in
this application due to being able to apply torque over the screw's full
diameter.

73 Jack KZ5A

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of N3XX
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 8:45 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

Hi to all,

I just completed assembly of K3 #4175 a couple of weeks ago.  When 
installing the knobs I had a problem with both sizes of allen wrench 
provided in the kit.  For both size knobs, they would slip inside of the 
allen screw as it started to get tight.  I don't know what the actual size 
should be, but ended up going into the box of allen wrenches I have saved 
over the years and using sizes that fit better, allowing me to tighten the 
screws.  Sorry, I don't have the actual sizes needed, since I just found 
what fit better and put them back into the box after I was finished.  I 
don't think there was actually any marking I could see anyway.

73,
Tim - N3XX

- Original Message - 
From: David Dunn vk3...@gmail.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob


I cannot imagine it would be hard to buy imperial measure Allen keys in USA
 !
 Even in VK land where standards of measure are very dubious. (officially
 all metric)  Our signposts in Kilometres, goods sold by the Kilogram,
 Timber by the metre,  - but they still talk about 4 x 2's and 6 x 8 ft
 sheets of chipboard.
 Now, go in the ironmongers for nuts and bolts and the odds are you will 
 find
 them with BSW threads,a size now very difficult to get in England 
 where
 they originated!
 I wonder why Elecraft used  inch measure Allen screws??  when all the
 other threads in the K3 are metric.- Perhaps they had similar problems!

 73 to all from David VK3DBD

 On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Mike n...@nf4l.com wrote:

 If you can't find it at the hardware boutique, if there's a hobby shop
 close, try that. I'd take the knob with me.

 73,
 Mike NF4L
 ab2tc wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I guess Ill be heading out to the hardware store for a 0.050 or 
  1.27mm
  allen wrench tomorrow. My radio was a kit originally, but I bought it 
  2nd
  hand from the builder and may not have recieved the allen key.
 
  AB2TC - Knut
 
 
  N1JM wrote:
 
  If yours was a kit, you should of got one with it. However, I suspect
 you
  could get one from Elecraft. The small knobs use a .050 and the large
  knobs take 5/64 allen wrench.
 
 
 
 


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[Elecraft] Wishing You a Happy and Successful Dayton!

2010-05-11 Thread Edward Dickinson, III
To:  Elecraft Management and Staff

I offer my best wishes for a successful Dayton Hamvention
The new products introductions will garner a lot of interest.
We already know the existing products do.
Keep 'em coming!

To:  Elecrafters

...best wishes for a successful Dayton Hamvention
If you are able, please post pictures and information and/or links.
Happy Hunting!


73,
Dick - KA5KKT



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Re: [Elecraft] kpa100 in a ec2 w kat100

2010-05-11 Thread Paul

 http://www.kk7p.com/k2kpa100.html

That was the information I used to do mine; it came out great.  Just pay
attention to the details and it will work fine.

Mark, W5EZY

Here's what it looks like when done: www.N4LCD.com/k2/



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Re: [Elecraft] Calling CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread Tom W8JI
Frank,

There are multiple reasons you are not getting a response.

While it is true PSK is only a few dB better than CW under 
ideal conditions,  some tend to pretend PSK is magical and 
very low ERP will work wonders.
Unfortunately very weak signals are still very weak signals. 
They will just be buried in the noise on the other station's 
display. Even if they are printable when found, no one will 
see you. Length of CQ is especially a factor when a signal 
is really weak.


It's kind of like a world where everyone is equal and held 
to the same low level, except with 5 watts and an indoor 
antenna you are probably among the lowest of the equally 
weak signals. You just won't stand out at all. CQing is not 
the way to go when the signal is barely above noise. Have 
fun calling people, that will be the best way with an indoor 
antenna and 5 watts. CQing will be frustrating.


73 Tom





--- On Tue, 5/11/10, Frank MacDonell kd8...@gmail.com 
wrote:

I have a K3/10 with a 66' dipole in the attic and I am 
running 5 watts
with incredible reach. From Detroit, I am reaching FL, WA 
and Ottawa.
But my contacts have been when I answer a CQ. When I call 
CQ, I do not
seem to get a call back. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. The 
Reflector
is an incredible resource.

-- 
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[Elecraft] FS LP-Pan E-Mu 0202

2010-05-11 Thread Doug Freeman
I am selling my LP-Pan and E-Mu 0202.
Asking price is $210 and I will ship USPS.
Contact me off the list for details.

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[Elecraft] K2 Stuff For Sale

2010-05-11 Thread Dave Jeanne Robertson
I have the following item for sale:
The top cover for the K2 containing a speaker, KIO2 Serial Interface, and KAT2 
Antenna tuner.

Comes with all manuals. Will sell complete or seperate. I built the units and 
they are fully tested.
Looking for $225.00 plus shipping or best offer within reason. Please contact 
me off list.

Thanks
Dave KD1NA
dar...@comcast.net
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[Elecraft] Slightly OT: K2 Sales Targeted

2010-05-11 Thread Al Gulseth
(I thought the readers of this reflector might get a chuckle out of the title 
of this article in the local newspaper yesterday. No, it's not about the 
draconian Radio Police: seems as how the K2 in this instance is a 
substance that (shall we say) is apparently being used as a mood enhancer. 
However, as I consider things carefully, what we associate with the term K2 
could also be said to serve as a mood enhancer during construction and 
operation. Uh-oh)

Times Record: K2 Sales Targeted

http://www.swtimes.com/news/article_da8235c0-5c42-11df-88b6-001cc4c002e0.html

73, Al
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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Fit: K3 versus K2

2010-05-11 Thread Ignacy

I have both K2 and K3.

K2 has traveled around the world and never a problem. It is my choice for CW
and it is OK for noncompetitive SSB especially when conditions are good. 

K3 had a few issues but its excellent speech processor plus EQ makes K3 a
standout in SSB TX. Not being heard is a major problem when portable. 

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Re: [Elecraft] Slightly OT: K2 Sales Targeted

2010-05-11 Thread Matt Palmer
K2 is actually derived from plant fertilizer... the more you know.

(kids are dumb)

Matt
W8ESE




On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Al Gulseth wb5...@centurytel.net wrote:
 (I thought the readers of this reflector might get a chuckle out of the title
 of this article in the local newspaper yesterday. No, it's not about the
 draconian Radio Police: seems as how the K2 in this instance is a
 substance that (shall we say) is apparently being used as a mood enhancer.
 However, as I consider things carefully, what we associate with the term K2
 could also be said to serve as a mood enhancer during construction and
 operation. Uh-oh)

 Times Record: K2 Sales Targeted

 http://www.swtimes.com/news/article_da8235c0-5c42-11df-88b6-001cc4c002e0.html

 73, Al
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Re: [Elecraft] Slightly OT: K2 Sales Targeted

2010-05-11 Thread Gary Gregory
Isn't it also a mountain some find too hard to climb?

Sorry for the play on words...I just couldn't help myself..(:-))

Gary

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Matt Palmer kd8...@gmail.com wrote:

 K2 is actually derived from plant fertilizer... the more you know.

 (kids are dumb)

 Matt
 W8ESE




 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Al Gulseth wb5...@centurytel.net
 wrote:
  (I thought the readers of this reflector might get a chuckle out of the
 title
  of this article in the local newspaper yesterday. No, it's not about the
  draconian Radio Police: seems as how the K2 in this instance is a
  substance that (shall we say) is apparently being used as a mood
 enhancer.
  However, as I consider things carefully, what we associate with the term
 K2
  could also be said to serve as a mood enhancer during construction and
  operation. Uh-oh)
 
  Times Record: K2 Sales Targeted
 
 
 http://www.swtimes.com/news/article_da8235c0-5c42-11df-88b6-001cc4c002e0.html
 
  73, Al
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For everything else there's Mastercard!!!
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[Elecraft] K2/KPA100

2010-05-11 Thread Larry Dodson
I have started to experience low power on 12 and 10 meters with my KPA100. I
get 65 watts on 12 meters with a good SWR (1:1) and 35 on 10 meters with a
good SWR (1:1).  I initially thought of the low pass filters in the KPA100
but the schematic shows that this would affect 15 meters as well, and 15
meters give out a good 100 watts.  The K2 alone into a dummy load is good:
12-14 watts on all bands, except with 10 watts on 12 meters and 8 watts on
10 meters; which if I remember right is correct. Any advice will be
appreciated.

Larry (G0IKE) K2 - 2424
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[Elecraft] Dayton Elecraft Booth Help

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
If you have the urge to meet other Elecraft owners or to espouse to 
potential owners at Dayton, please email me or stop by the booth at the 
show and we'll sign you up! (We are at booths 196, 197, 198.)  Wayne and 
I are grateful for any help we can get to save our voices from total 
collapse ;-)  Even an hour or two is a big help.

Plus you get to hang out with and meet lots of Elecraft folks, both 
customers and members of our engineering team. In addition to Wayne and 
myself, we'll have the following Elecraft engineers at the booth:

Brian, W6FVI  (W2 Design, P3 project mgr.)
Dick, K6KR  (K3 Utility)
Alan, N1AL  (P3 Designer)
Lyle, KK7P (K3 DSP, K2 DSP etc.)

Hope to see you all there!

73, Eric  WA6HHQ

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Re: [Elecraft] Slightly OT: K2 Sales Targeted

2010-05-11 Thread David Cutter
And a UK telephone box of the 1930's

David
G3UNA



 Isn't it also a mountain some find too hard to climb?

 Sorry for the play on words...I just couldn't help myself..(:-))

 Gary

 On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Matt Palmer kd8...@gmail.com wrote:

 K2 is actually derived from plant fertilizer... the more you know.

 (kids are dumb)

 Matt
 W8ESE




 On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Al Gulseth wb5...@centurytel.net
 wrote:
  (I thought the readers of this reflector might get a chuckle out of the
 title
  of this article in the local newspaper yesterday. No, it's not about 
  the
  draconian Radio Police: seems as how the K2 in this instance is a
  substance that (shall we say) is apparently being used as a mood
 enhancer.
  However, as I consider things carefully, what we associate with the 
  term
 K2
  could also be said to serve as a mood enhancer during construction 
  and
  operation. Uh-oh)
  

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Re: [Elecraft] Calling CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread Julian, G4ILO


Phil Hystad-3 wrote:
 
 On May 11, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Jon Perelstein wrote:
 
 Just because I can see it on the waterfall doesn't mean that I have any
 idea if it's a CQ or not.  And if it's a short CQ, by the time I click
 over to it, it's gone.
 
 Which is a good reason to buy an Apple Mac and help to increase my AAPL
 stock value even more...
 
 The CocoaModem digital interface application that runs only on the Mac has
 a very nifty feature.  Even if a waterfall trace of a message is over, as
 long as it is in the displayed buffer you can click on it and see the text
 of that stream for the amount of the buffer contents that is retained.
 

The built in PSK31 modem in KComm for Windows can do that as well. (Actually
it is a feature of the PSK31 DLL by AE4JY and not anything clever I did.)

KComm also has a PSK Browser that decodes all the signals in the passband
(and reports them to PSK Reporter if you want to do that.)

Of course that doesn't help get other people answer *your* CQs. Perhaps an
increasing use of PSK Browsers means that people don't tend to bother with
weak stations that aren't DX? Adding QRP (but please not /QRP) to your
CQ calls might help a bit.

I ran just 4W of PSK31 and an attic antenna for many years with my QRP K2
with quite a bit of success. But there were more sunspots around at the
time. I admit that frustration with conditions over the last couple of years
was why I got the 100W PA for my K3 (not being able to do anything about the
antennas.) It made a heck of a difference to my success rate. No problem
getting replies to my CQs now.

If you must run QRP then as others have suggested, replying to other
people's CQs is really the way to go.

-
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222.
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* KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
* KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-11 Thread David Christ
My experiences are different.  For small knobs you need to use high 
quality wrenches.  Those .050 do work if you have a good one.  It's 
amazing how much twist you can put in a high quality Allen wrench 
while trying to deal with a stubborn screw.  The next thing is to 
make sure that you have them inserted all the way into the set screw. 
That sometimes takes a bit of wiggling and pushing.  Unfortunately, 
there is the possibility of a damaged screw if it wasn't done right 
before.

As an old-timer I dealt with many a slotted set screw.  Nothing but 
headaches.  Good small bladed screwdrivers are much harder to find 
than good small Allen wrenches.  My favorite is the Bristol (splined) 
design.  http://www.bristolwrench.com/  Collins used them a lot. 
Every now and then I think about replacing all my radio setscrews 
with Bristol style but have not yet found a reasonable source for 
them.

David K0LUM


At 1:25 PM -0500 5/11/10, Jack Brabham wrote:
Tim,

I had a similar experience assembling #4169 a few weeks ago.  Unfortunately
my stack of assorted allen wrenches didn't include any that small.

My work around was to grind off the stripped portion of the cheesy allen
wrench each time it stripped. 

It only took about two hours and several wrench grindings to mount the two
split knobs, which was really the only PITA encountered during the assembly.
The allen wrench was much smaller when I finished.

I suspect that a plain old slotted head screw would be more practical in
this application due to being able to apply torque over the screw's full
diameter.

73 Jack KZ5A

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Re: [Elecraft] Callin CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread N4CW
IMHO, that's how it works in the QRP world, regardless of mode. You would  
probably find it more difficult with CW than PSK-31, and even more difficult 
 yet, with SSB! That's based on experience.
 
If it's at all possible, work on improving your antenna situation. Your  
equipment is already the best!
 
GL, de Bert, N4CW
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jack,

If you stripped out the allen wrench, you were applying more force than 
is necessary, and excessive force may be the reason some of the newer 
knobs are cracking (that is just a guess).

73,
Don W3FPR

Jack Brabham wrote:
 Tim,

 I had a similar experience assembling #4169 a few weeks ago.  Unfortunately
 my stack of assorted allen wrenches didn't include any that small.

 My work around was to grind off the stripped portion of the cheesy allen
 wrench each time it stripped.  
   
   
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Re: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: Calling CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread lstavenhagen

Exactly, as well as support Chen so he'll write more cool apps for us, hi hi.
Everyone beat me to it tho, I was also going to say cocoaModem's click
buffer works FB. 

There's also a table mode in cocoaModem that'll decode multiple streams in
the audio bandpass (which I've seen in others like Digipan, I believe). You
can also double-click on the streams and the demodulator goes directly to it
in the waterfall instantly switching you to that freq. Very nice!

73,
LS
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[Elecraft] where's AC7AC been???

2010-05-11 Thread David Windisch

Haven't seen a post from him since around the first of the year.

Any info out there, pls?

Dave, N3HE
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Re: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: Calling CQ on PSK-31

2010-05-11 Thread Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU

In addition to having fldigi decode the last few seconds of a qso you left
click and move you, you can also right click on another QSO in fldigi and it
will display the last few seconds in purple. Finally, you can set up fldigi
so that it puts clickable frequency markers in the receive buffer so you can
go back to a previous frequency you've left clicked on.  (I had a hand in
designing these features and in some of the implementation.)

Leigh/WA5ZNU


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-11 Thread Tom W8JI
Knowing the problem we had on assembly lines with small 
screws... :-)

73 Tom
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 Jack,

 If you stripped out the allen wrench, you were applying 
 more force than
 is necessary, and excessive force may be the reason some 
 of the newer
 knobs are cracking (that is just a guess).

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 Jack Brabham wrote:
 Tim,

 I had a similar experience assembling #4169 a few weeks 
 ago.  Unfortunately
 my stack of assorted allen wrenches didn't include any 
 that small.

 My work around was to grind off the stripped portion of 
 the cheesy allen
 wrench each time it stripped.


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-11 Thread Tom W8JI

 My experiences are different.  For small knobs you need to 
 use high
 quality wrenches.  Those .050 do work if you have a good 
 one.  It's
 amazing how much twist you can put in a high quality Allen 
 wrench
 while trying to deal with a stubborn screw.

I would not ever force the screw. That is just asking for 
problems.

Off the shaft and on the table, run it in until it resists 
turning and then back out. Do that several times cleaning 
the threads out.


 As an old-timer I dealt with many a slotted set screw. 
 Nothing but
 headaches.

No truer words were ever spoken!!! The last thing I would 
want is phillips, and then second last would be slotted 
screws. 

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3} Help, hex key for split knob

2010-05-11 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
My personal rule for torque-wrenching small allen screws (once I know
threads are clear) is pinky pressure.

I turn the allen wrench until it *just barely* runs into resistance.
Then I put my pinky on the wrench and let some of the weight of my
forearm (no pushing) tighten it up.  Should not ever be stripping
allen wrenches in K3 RF/AF knobs.

The replacement knobs I got for the flawed early batch that came with
my K3 have been just fine.

73, Guy.


On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com wrote:

 My experiences are different.  For small knobs you need to
 use high
 quality wrenches.  Those .050 do work if you have a good
 one.  It's
 amazing how much twist you can put in a high quality Allen
 wrench
 while trying to deal with a stubborn screw.

 I would not ever force the screw. That is just asking for
 problems.

 Off the shaft and on the table, run it in until it resists
 turning and then back out. Do that several times cleaning
 the threads out.


 As an old-timer I dealt with many a slotted set screw.
 Nothing but
 headaches.

 No truer words were ever spoken!!! The last thing I would
 want is phillips, and then second last would be slotted
 screws.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AM TX - Questions and Observations

2010-05-11 Thread Andy Wood

Thanks for the reply Tom - your information is appreciated. I have been to
your website a few times but I hadn't visited the AM page before. Lots of
good information there. I had to read it a few times to take it all in.

I have done some more research and it appears the K3 TX has a quite
sophisticated, multiple loop ALC system. This is probably the reason it
currently cannot be modulated in excess of 100% positive. Maybe there will
be an update in the future?

Andy  VK4KY

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[Elecraft] K3/10 to K3/100 Conversion Project

2010-05-11 Thread John Frerichs

Yesterday, I received a KPA3 100 Watt PA kit for my K3/10.  Less than an hour 
later my K3 was sending CW at 100 Watts (into a dummy load, unfortunately, 
since my shack is 50+ miles way from my lab at work).  I now have a fully 
functional K3/100 that still does QRP with ease.

The installation was extremely simple.  There were absolutely no problems from 
start to finish.  

I'm quite pleased with the quality of Elecraft products and their straight 
forward documentation.  

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[Elecraft] WANTED: K3

2010-05-11 Thread Eddie DeYoung
Looking for a K3 in excellent condition.  Please include postage to
Australia in price. Payment by Paypal. Eddie VK4AN.  See QRZ.com for info
about me.  Have lots of US ham friends that can vouch for me.

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[Elecraft] Dayton

2010-05-11 Thread Jim Brown
I'm leaving for Chicago in the morning, and will be off email 
until I return. My Chicago buddies are monitoring 442.625, 
114.8 Hz, so I will too. I hope to see many friends there. One 
of my hangs will probably be the CWOps booth. 

73,

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AM TX - Questions and Observations

2010-05-11 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Andy,

  This is probably the reason it currently cannot be modulated
  in excess of 100% positive. Maybe there will be an update in
  the future?

You do not want more than 100% positive modulation with the K3.
If one assumes 25W of carrier, 100% positive modulation represents
100W peak power ... modulation greater than 100% positive would
result in limiting/compression in the final amplifier with its
attendant distortion.  To obtain greater than 100% positive
modulation (particularly in a low level modulation with linear
amplifier situation), the final amplifier must be capable of
PEP greater than four times the carrier power.

The only way the K3 could support more than 100% positive modulation
is if the carrier power were reduced and that would be rather
self defeating.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 5/11/2010 9:27 PM, Andy Wood wrote:

 Thanks for the reply Tom - your information is appreciated. I have been to
 your website a few times but I hadn't visited the AM page before. Lots of
 good information there. I had to read it a few times to take it all in.

 I have done some more research and it appears the K3 TX has a quite
 sophisticated, multiple loop ALC system. This is probably the reason it
 currently cannot be modulated in excess of 100% positive. Maybe there will
 be an update in the future?

 Andy  VK4KY

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Re: [Elecraft] K2/KPA100

2010-05-11 Thread Bill Coleman

On May 11, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Larry Dodson wrote:

 I have started to experience low power on 12 and 10 meters with my KPA100. I
 get 65 watts on 12 meters with a good SWR (1:1) and 35 on 10 meters with a
 good SWR (1:1).  I initially thought of the low pass filters in the KPA100
 but the schematic shows that this would affect 15 meters as well, and 15
 meters give out a good 100 watts.  The K2 alone into a dummy load is good:
 12-14 watts on all bands, except with 10 watts on 12 meters and 8 watts on
 10 meters; which if I remember right is correct. Any advice will be
 appreciated.

The K2 ought to be able to put out a solid 10 watts on 10m, and at least 12 
watts on 12m with no problem. I would check the archives for troubleshooting 
low output on 12/10m. There are some build details having to do with the 
transmit transformers that may need to be followed to get full output on 10m.

The KPA100 should have more than enough gain on 10m to produce a full 100 
watts. My K2/100 can barely make 10 watts across the whole 10m band with the 
KPA100 disabled, but has no problem producing 100 watts with the KPA100 enabled.

I would start with the low output on the base K2, and work from there,

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AM TX - Questions and Observations

2010-05-11 Thread Andy Wood

Hi Joe,

Yes, you are correct and I understand what you are saying. 

However, reduced carrier power from the K3 TX is not an issue if driving an
external amplifier to, say, 100 watts carrier. In this case, output from the
K3 may be only 10 watts carrier (40w peak), leaving plenty of overhead to
accommodate an increase in positive modulation well beyond 100%.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AM TX - Questions and Observations

2010-05-11 Thread Mark Stennett
In AM analog broadcast, asymmetrical modulation is standard fare.

http://www.vorsis.com/pdfnfoto/Vorsis%20AM10%20InkJet%20090722.pdf

Output specs on page 7.

73 de na6m



On 5/11/2010 10:08 PM, Andy Wood wrote:

 Hi Joe,

 Yes, you are correct and I understand what you are saying.

 However, reduced carrier power from the K3 TX is not an issue if driving an
 external amplifier to, say, 100 watts carrier. In this case, output from the
 K3 may be only 10 watts carrier (40w peak), leaving plenty of overhead to
 accommodate an increase in positive modulation well beyond 100%.

 Andy  VK4KY

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AM TX - Questions and Observations

2010-05-11 Thread Andy Wood

Gee, that is a nice toy Mark.

I wonder how many K3's you could buy for the price of one of those
units

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