[Elecraft] General Digital Contesting Help

[goldtr8]

Group,

I would like to attempt to try and do some digital contesting with my 
K3.

It took me a long time to get HRD and its associated software working 
and I finally can use the DM780 software fairly good.

What I am not able to figure out is the proper set of calls and 
responses that contestors are looking for.

So can someone point me in the proper direction on how to go about 
understanding how contesting works and how to log.   I have been trying 
to read up on the internet, but I am missing some basic points of 
knowledge to pull it together.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Don
KD8NNU


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Re: [Elecraft] PIC Programming Book

[Dick Dievendorff]

I was impressed by a downloadable book on http://qwikandlow.com

It covered a lot of topics very nicely and the price of the book is right...

73 de Dick, K6KR


On Feb 11, 2011, at 11:22, Pete Zawasky  wrote:

> I wonder if
> the people on the list could point me to books, manuals, information 
> concerning
> the programming of PIC devices?
> 
> Lee - K0WA
> _
> 
> Lee,
> Especially for the PIC18, 24 and 30 series, Mikael (OH2AUN), has put 
> together a nice s/w package, FlashForth.
> It is available free on SourceForge. 
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/flashforth/
> 
> With the wealth of information provided by Microchip - free,
>   MPLab from Microchip -- free,
>   low cost development boards,
>   a programmer such as PICKit 2 or 3,
>   software such as FlashForth,
> real time investigation of, and learning about, registers, bits, i/o, 
> etc. is fast and easy.
> 
> Pete
> AG7C
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Re: [Elecraft] Using K3 with N1MM and MMTTY

[Wes Stewart]

Or you can just use AFSK + VOX and not worry about it.


--- On Wed, 2/9/11, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:

> From: Joe Subich, W4TV 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Using K3 with N1MM and MMTTY
> To: "Joe" , "Elecraft Reflector" 
> Date: Wednesday, February 9, 2011, 10:47 PM
> 
>  > How do you K3/N1MM users interface the MMTTY engine?
> 
> Assuming you are using FSK (FSK D), you need two serial
> ports.  One
> port is used by N1MM Logger for radio control (connected to
> the K3
> RS-232 port),  The other port is the N1MM Logger
> "Digital" port -
> the TxD line drives an open collector transistor connected
> to the
> FSK input on the K3 ACC jack and the RTS line drives an
> open collector
> transistor connected to the PTT line on the K3 ACC jack.
> 
> If you are using AFSK A, you can dispense with the
> "Digital" port
> completely and allow N1MM Logger to control PTT using the
> RTS line
> on the k3 RS-232 port (PTT - KEY => rts-OFF or
> rts,dtr).  In that
> case you would connect the computer Line Out to the K3 Line
> In
> and the K3 Line Out to the computer Line In with a pair of
> audio
> cables (or a more capable/advanced interface).
> 
> 73,
> 
>     ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
> On 2/10/2011 12:08 AM, Joe wrote:
> > I also asked this question on the N1MM
> reflector.  I am using N1MM COM1 port
> > to control the K3.  I have N1MM starting the
> MMTTY engine but it cannot key
> > the radio because the COM1 port is already being used
> to control the radio.
> > How do you K3/N1MM users interface the MMTTY engine?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > 73 Joe K2UF
> >
> > No trees were harmed in the sending of this e-mail;
> however, many electrons
> > were inconvenienced.
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft at the Orlando ARRL Hamcation this weekend

[Barry Pfeil]

I just left the Elecraft booth an hour or so ago and the "K-Line" (LOVE that 
name) did look great with the K3-P3-KPA500 combination bolted side-by-side. 
With 
the amp at 26 pounds in weight per Eric, I'd guess the whole station comes out 
well under 50 pounds .  Of course you have to add a DC supply for the K3 but 
you 
might still get in under 50 lbs overall even with a KAT500R added.  IMPRESSIVE!!

I live in Silicon Valley not that far from Elecraft and that's USUALLY where I 
see Eric.  But I'm in Florida visiting a relative so thought I would check out 
the Hamcation.  Since Eric wasn't expecting to see me it was fun to see his 
little double-take when he did and admitted to wondering for a millisecond if 
he 
had REALLY just traveled 2500 miles :-)  It's a pretty decent show - check it 
out if you can,
73, Barry K6RM

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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 v. TT R4020

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

A off-reflector comment by a PSK operator reminded me that letters are
sometimes dropped in PSK and, if the operator isn't watching the waterfall,
it's easy to lose the "K" and not realize the transmission has ended. He's
seen "PSE K" become common on PSK as a way of adding redundancy to signal
the end of the transmission. Another approach is to repeat the "K" as in
"KKK". 

Ron AC7AC

-

On 2/10/2011 10:27 PM, eric norris wrote:

> The R4020 doesn't have message memories per se, but it will allow you to
enter
> your call.  You can then press a button and it will call CQ, but it is CQ
CQ CQ
> de WD6DBM WD6DBM WD6DBM PSE K which is a little odd.  Normally I don't
need
> assistance to sound like a LID.


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Re: [Elecraft] Split not avaiable

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

If one VFO is data mode (DATA A, AFSK A, FSK D, PSK D) and the other
is not data (CW, USB/LSB, etc.), you will get Split n/a if you attempt
to split.


73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2/10/2011 12:57 PM, JAMES ROGERS wrote:
> I just noticed that on some bands using DATA A split is not available. I have 
> looked in the Configuration but have overlooked something somewhere. Anybody 
> got a clue??
>
> 73s
> JIM ROGERS, W4ATK
> w4...@bellsouth.net
> http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk
> K3/100 P3
> K2/10
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Using K3 with N1MM and MMTTY

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

 > How do you K3/N1MM users interface the MMTTY engine?

Assuming you are using FSK (FSK D), you need two serial ports.  One
port is used by N1MM Logger for radio control (connected to the K3
RS-232 port),  The other port is the N1MM Logger "Digital" port -
the TxD line drives an open collector transistor connected to the
FSK input on the K3 ACC jack and the RTS line drives an open collector
transistor connected to the PTT line on the K3 ACC jack.

If you are using AFSK A, you can dispense with the "Digital" port
completely and allow N1MM Logger to control PTT using the RTS line
on the k3 RS-232 port (PTT - KEY => rts-OFF or rts,dtr).  In that
case you would connect the computer Line Out to the K3 Line In
and the K3 Line Out to the computer Line In with a pair of audio
cables (or a more capable/advanced interface).

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2/10/2011 12:08 AM, Joe wrote:
> I also asked this question on the N1MM reflector.  I am using N1MM COM1 port
> to control the K3.  I have N1MM starting the MMTTY engine but it cannot key
> the radio because the COM1 port is already being used to control the radio.
> How do you K3/N1MM users interface the MMTTY engine?
>
> Thanks
>
> 73 Joe K2UF
>
> No trees were harmed in the sending of this e-mail; however, many electrons
> were inconvenienced.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Look familiar? Elecraft vs Ten Tec

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Ron,

>> What does catch my eye is the linear regulated 12V "wall wart" they
>> offer. Like to have one of those for hotel-room portable with my
>> KX1. Been watching for one but all I see nowadays are unregulated
>> supplies, most of them dreaded switchers.

How much current do you need?  This looks like it's made for the KX-1:


 


  12V @ 500 mA regulated ... $8..50 each

I have a couple around here and they're almost certainly analog -
16 oz not the 2 oz light weight switchers.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2/9/2011 2:17 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> It sure does, but note it's two bands instead of 4, no built-in ATU, no
> variable bandwidth I.F. filter (and, shoot, not even a built in light to
> read notes by in the field ;-)
>
> Just proves that all pretty faces aren't the same.
>
> What does catch my eye is the linear regulated 12V "wall wart" they offer.
> Like to have one of those for hotel-room portable with my KX1. Been watching
> for one but all I see nowadays are unregulated supplies, most of them
> dreaded switchers.
>
> Ron AC7AC
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> Everyone saw this???
>
>
>  Ten Tec [made in China]  pre-built
> Two Band CW QRP Transceiver - 40/20 Meters
> http://www.tentec.com/index.php?id=193
> Also has a 40/30 meter option..
>
> Original KX1 by Elecraft
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[Elecraft] QRT 600m for weekend

[Edward R. Cole]

I will be using my K3 on 1296-eme this weekend so will not operate on 600m
I should be able to beacon Sunday night.
Monday will depend on Valentines Day plans (whether we go out in the evening)

The apparent RF problem  with the NDB has not reappeared.  I noted I 
could produce the same symptoms by trying to adjust RF power on the 
K3 while transmitting.  I'm guessing a sw problem with WSPR and the 
cpu in the K3?  I am able to adjust transmit power when running 
SSB/CW modes.  So maybe it was self-inflicted by my adjustments?

Sorry for errant frequency listing, recently.  I now have the 
standard WSPR freq. written into memory on my K3 for 
600/80/40/30/20/17/15/10m.  No antenna for 30m at this time.



73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
==
BP40IQ   500 KHz - 10-GHz   www.kl7uw.com
EME: 144-1.4kw*, 432-100w*, 1296-testing*, 3400-winter?
DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com
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*temp not in service 
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Re: [Elecraft] UK Import Duty attracted by factory built K3.

[Dave Sergeant]

On 11 Feb 2011 at 20:42, DL2FI, Peter wrote:

> There is another big difference: QRPproject warranty is two years and
> shipment under warrany is included. In USA you get one year warranty and
> as you live outside USA, you have to pay both way shipments even under
> warranty.
> 
> 732 de Peter, DL2FI

Maybe of relevance for some. But with the excellent support from Gary 
and the team at Elecraft, plus the ability of most on here to carry out 
repairs themselves, it must be pretty rare for complete kit to have to 
be returned to Atpos. My 9 year K2 has never gone wrong, I have done 
mods to it over the years and changed the volume control, but have 
always had excellent service from Elecraft. The difference in cost for 
us UK customers makes it a non-brainer.

I assume buying from QRPproject does not stop you getting technical 
support from Elecraft?

73 Dave G3YMC

http://www.davesergeant.com

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Re: [Elecraft] UK Import Duty attracted by factory built K3.

[Stephen Prior]

Peter,

I have to confess that you have a very good point there.  We are so used
to having good legally backed warranties in the EU that we forget that
they have to be paid for!  We mistakenly assume that nothing will go
wrong, although in the case of the K3 for example, its modular approach
would simplify matters.

Part of the disparity in prices, it must be said though, is that the
exchange rate with the Euro is not as favourable to us as it is with the
USD.  If we still had about €1.50 to £1 it would make all the difference!

73  Stephen G4SJP

On 11/02/2011 19:42, "DL2FI, Peter"  wrote:

>
>> 
>> From Elecraft, including USPS shipping and 20% VAT, at $1.60 to £1;
>> £575.
>> 
>> From QRP.DE, including shipping and German VAT, at €1.17 to £1; £680.
>> 
>But thats only half the true.
>There is another big difference: QRPproject warranty is two years and
>shipment under warrany is included. In USA you get one year warranty and
>as you live outside USA, you have to pay both way shipments even under
>warranty.
>
>732 de Peter, DL2FI
>
>
>
>
>
>




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Re: [Elecraft] UK Import Duty attracted by factory built K3.

[DL2FI, Peter]

> 
> From Elecraft, including USPS shipping and 20% VAT, at $1.60 to £1;
> £575.
> 
> From QRP.DE, including shipping and German VAT, at €1.17 to £1; £680.
> 
But thats only half the true.
There is another big difference: QRPproject warranty is two years and shipment 
under warrany is included. In USA you get one year warranty and as you live 
outside USA, you have to pay both way shipments even under warranty.

732 de Peter, DL2FI





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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] Re: Elecraft at Orlando ARRL Hamcation this weekend

[Hector Padron]

Well it won't be hard to find me,look for an ugly short guy with a "Pancho 
Villa" style big mostache with my call sign on the hat.See you there then,73
 
Hector
AD4C


"If freedom means something,it is the right to tell others what they don't want 
to hear" –George Orwell

--- On Fri, 2/11/11, Jose Rivera  wrote:


From: Jose Rivera 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: Elecraft at Orlando ARRL Hamcation this weekend
To: "HectorP" 
Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 4:29 PM


Mr. Hector Padron:


I would like to meet you at the Hamfest in Orlando this weekend.


My handle is Jose Rivera and call sign Kp4Fmd.


Maybe I can find you at the Elecraft table.


73 de Kp4FmD





On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:40 PM, HectorP wrote:


  



As a loyal user and FL resident,I will be there Eric,saturday morning,good trip 
and happy staying in Orlando.

Hector
AD4C 

--- In elecraft...@yahoogroups.com, dalej  wrote:
>
> Hope to see some pictures from the fest.
> 
> Dale, k9vuj
> 
> 
> 
> On 10, Feb 2011, at 18:31, wa6hhq wrote:
> 
> > I'm currently in the air at 30,000 ft heading to Orlando. This in-air WiFi 
> > internet system is dangerous - I get to work all the way there. No chance 
> > to sleep.. ;-)
> > 
> > We will be at the Orlando Hamcation ARRL convention Friday through Sunday 
> > showing off our gear at the booth. We'll have the production version of the 
> > KPA500 on display to complete our K3-P3-KPA500 'K-Line' station. :-) 
> > 
> > Please feel free to stop by, visit and stay a while. Its a great way to 
> > check out our newest offerings, ask questions and to meet with other 
> > Elecraft owners and potential owners. You also are our best salesmen. 
> > 
> > Hope to see you there. We are looking forward to seeing everyone at the 
> > show.
> > 
> > 73,
> > Eric WA6HHQ
> > 
> > www.elecraft.com
> > _..._
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 v. TT R4020

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

I don't find anything "Liddish" about the 3x3 calling sequence when not
working a pileup, working a string of stations on a particular frequency or
contesting.

Indeed, what I find poor practice are those who try to answer my CQ with
only their call sent once. I can't tell if they are calling me, if they were
tuning up or if it's another QSO that emerged from the QSB. 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

That was a standard call protocol in the coastal marine service.  Listen 
to KSM on Sat afternoons [in NA] on 500, 4350.5, 6474.0, 8438.3, or 
12993.0 KHz.  Their "wheel" will run "V V V   V V V   V V V DE KSM KSM 
KSM [tfc list if any] QSX 500 4 6 8 12."  They have a 16 MHz frequency 
too, can't remember it.  I occasionally fall back into the protocol 
calling CQ when I'm activating a summit and my rate is agonizingly slow 
and I'm getting bored :-)

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011
- www.cqp.org

On 2/10/2011 10:27 PM, eric norris wrote:

> The R4020 doesn't have message memories per se, but it will allow you to
enter
> your call.  You can then press a button and it will call CQ, but it is CQ
CQ CQ
> de WD6DBM WD6DBM WD6DBM PSE K which is a little odd.  Normally I don't
need
> assistance to sound like a LID.


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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] headphone jack replacement tips?

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Another way to treat that jack more gently is to use a right-angle adapter.
That greatly shortens the "level arm" sticking out in front of the K2.

Can't say it's the reason, buy my 11 year old K2 still has the original jack
even though I use phones 100% of the time (and a right-angle adapter). 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
  John,

If you have no de-soldering tools, try to get the solder out with wick, 
but if that fails, cut the jack apart and remove the pins one at a time.

I don't see any advantage to not using the headphone jack.  Who knows, 
the new one may last forever.
There is a finite chance of a future failure, but then everything in the 
world carries with it some burden of chance.  We just have to be 
practical and take our chances.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/11/2011 12:18 PM, John Shadle wrote:
> I think I finally might get to replacing my failed headphone jack this
> weekend. Anyone have any tips for this little job? I recall that there
> are more than a few pins to desolder.
>
> Also, does it make sense to not put stress on the headphone jack in
> the future by plugging my headphones into the external speaker jack on
> the rear of the unit? My headphone cable is plenty long to reach
> there, and would rather not have to replace this again in the
> future--as it seems to be the case with many folks.
>
> Thanks.
> -john W4PAH

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Re: [Elecraft] Split not avaiable

[iain macdonnell - N6ML]

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 7:10 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML  wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 5:57 PM, JAMES ROGERS  wrote:
>> I just noticed that on some bands using DATA A split is not available. I 
>> have looked in the Configuration but have overlooked something somewhere. 
>> Anybody got a clue??
>
> Are you sure you're in the "DATA A" sub-mode? Sub-mode is remembered
> per-band. Before engaging SPLIT, tap A>B twice to ensure that both
> VFOs are "on the same page".

sri, missed the rest of the broken thread on this ... nevermind...

   ~iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] Split not avaiable

[iain macdonnell - N6ML]

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 5:57 PM, JAMES ROGERS  wrote:
> I just noticed that on some bands using DATA A split is not available. I have 
> looked in the Configuration but have overlooked something somewhere. Anybody 
> got a clue??

Are you sure you're in the "DATA A" sub-mode? Sub-mode is remembered
per-band. Before engaging SPLIT, tap A>B twice to ensure that both
VFOs are "on the same page".

~iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 v. TT R4020

[Fred Jensen]

That was a standard call protocol in the coastal marine service.  Listen 
to KSM on Sat afternoons [in NA] on 500, 4350.5, 6474.0, 8438.3, or 
12993.0 KHz.  Their "wheel" will run "V V V   V V V   V V V DE KSM KSM 
KSM [tfc list if any] QSX 500 4 6 8 12."  They have a 16 MHz frequency 
too, can't remember it.  I occasionally fall back into the protocol 
calling CQ when I'm activating a summit and my rate is agonizingly slow 
and I'm getting bored :-)

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011
- www.cqp.org

On 2/10/2011 10:27 PM, eric norris wrote:

> The R4020 doesn't have message memories per se, but it will allow you to enter
> your call.  You can then press a button and it will call CQ, but it is CQ CQ 
> CQ
> de WD6DBM WD6DBM WD6DBM PSE K which is a little odd.  Normally I don't need
> assistance to sound like a LID.

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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] headphone jack replacement tips?

[Don Wilhelm]

  John,

If you have no de-soldering tools, try to get the solder out with wick, 
but if that fails, cut the jack apart and remove the pins one at a time.

I don't see any advantage to not using the headphone jack.  Who knows, 
the new one may last forever.
There is a finite chance of a future failure, but then everything in the 
world carries with it some burden of chance.  We just have to be 
practical and take our chances.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/11/2011 12:18 PM, John Shadle wrote:
> I think I finally might get to replacing my failed headphone jack this
> weekend. Anyone have any tips for this little job? I recall that there
> are more than a few pins to desolder.
>
> Also, does it make sense to not put stress on the headphone jack in
> the future by plugging my headphones into the external speaker jack on
> the rear of the unit? My headphone cable is plenty long to reach
> there, and would rather not have to replace this again in the
> future--as it seems to be the case with many folks.
>
> Thanks.
> -john W4PAH
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF OFF/ON USING PRESETS I/II

[Wayne Burdick]

Jack,

That isn't quite what I meant. You need to set CONFIG:DUAL PB to APF.  
Now select preset I, and turn APF ON by holding the DUAL PB switch.  
Then switch to preset II and turn APF off again using the DUAL PB  
switch. From then on you should be able to alternate between I and II  
and have APF turn on and off.

You can also vary WIDTH for each preset. For example, for preset I, I  
set WIDTH to 200 Hz and APF on. For preset II I set WIDTH to 400 Hz  
with APF off.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Feb 11, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Jack Regan wrote:

> I have tried to use Wayne's suggestion for setting APF on for one  
> preset and
> of for the other. No luck. If I set DUAL PB to APF using CONFIG when  
> PRESET
> I is active and then set DUAL PB to nor when preset II is active  
> when I
> switch back to preset I then DUAL PB has also been changed nor. I have
> checked the latest manual. I have the latest firmware.
>
> What am I missing? Help!
>
>
>
> Jack, AE6GC
>
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[Elecraft] K3 APF OFF/ON USING PRESETS I/II

[Jack Regan]

I have tried to use Wayne's suggestion for setting APF on for one preset and
of for the other. No luck. If I set DUAL PB to APF using CONFIG when PRESET
I is active and then set DUAL PB to nor when preset II is active when I
switch back to preset I then DUAL PB has also been changed nor. I have
checked the latest manual. I have the latest firmware.

What am I missing? Help!

 

Jack, AE6GC

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Re: [Elecraft] PIC Programming Book

[Wayne Burdick]

> I wonder if the people on the list could point me to books, manuals,  
> information concerning the programming of PIC devices?
>
> Lee - K0WA
> __

Hi Lee,

You'll definitely want to read a book or two on PIC coding, and you  
should carefully read the data sheet for your selected part(s). But if  
you get stuck, let me know. I've been writing code for PICs for many  
years, including the firmware for all Elecraft transceivers, and I can  
probably give you a little push in the right direction.

I'd also suggest you sign up for the Microchip user forum. Members of  
this group are pretty civilized and usually give good advice.

One final tip: If you see an error message pop up during use of any  
PIC development tool, just put it in quotes into a Google search. You  
won't be the first one to have seen it. This is often the quickest way  
to solve a problem with tools such as MPLAB, compilers, etc.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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[Elecraft] P3 center freq using xv144

[Bill K9YEQ]

When I first go to 2 meter band the P3 center freq is on freq of VFO 1.
After tuning the center freq is around 130 mhz.  Can anyone advise what is
up?  I may have missed this issue on the reflector.  IF I knew where to look
in history I would.

 

Bill

K9YEQ

 

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[Elecraft] setting up RTTY SO2R with K3s and WriteLog

[k6rb]

Last night I was able to set up an SO2R capability using two K3s, two
sound cards, and just COM1 and COM2. There was no need to add an extra two
COM ports. This works with AFSK, but not FSK.

The tricky part is creating two instances of RTTYrite/MMTTY and having
them associated with the proper sound card. You interface radio 1 with one
sound card, and radio 2 with the other sound card (e.g. line in/line out
interface).

Set up your WriteLog contest log as usual for SO2R but use AA5AU's ports
set up (don't assign CW to your LPT, etc.). But, don't select the RTTY
screen, just yet. First, click on the L log entry line to make it active,
and then select the RTTY screen in the contest tab. This will create the
first instance of RTTYrite/MMTTY. Using the RTTYrite (not MMTTY) screen
tabs, go to the middle tab which will open up MMTTY configuration screens.
Go to "misc" and on the left, you'll see "device" with a menu of numbers
-1, 0, 1, etc. Select "0" and hit "OK." Tune in a RTTY station with radio
1 and make sure the waterfall/tuning ellipses are working (shows that
sound card is associated with that radio and screens).

Next, click on the R log entry line, then again "select" a "RTTY Screen"
in the contest tab. This will enable a second instance. This time, when
you go to the MMTTY configuration tab, choose device "1". That should
associate your second sound card with radio 2 and the second set of
RTTYrite/MMTTY screens.

With my set up, I have VOX deselected on both K3s (e.g. it's using PTT)
and in the WriteLog ports screen, I have COM PTT as "yes." This has
eliminated a problem I was having where during RX the VOX would trigger
the radio into TX mode. It may just be a problem in my set up.

As always, make sure your AFSK signal gain is adjusted to just give you
peak power at your setting. If you crank it any more than that, you'll
risk creating spurious junk. After all, you are operating "phone" in a
fashion and cranking up the gain too far will create a mess.

Rob K6RB


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[Elecraft] PIC Programming Book

[Pete Zawasky]

I wonder if
the people on the list could point me to books, manuals, information concerning
the programming of PIC devices?

Lee - K0WA
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Lee,
Especially for the PIC18, 24 and 30 series, Mikael (OH2AUN), has put 
together a nice s/w package, FlashForth.
It is available free on SourceForge. 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/flashforth/

With the wealth of information provided by Microchip - free,
   MPLab from Microchip -- free,
   low cost development boards,
   a programmer such as PICKit 2 or 3,
   software such as FlashForth,
real time investigation of, and learning about, registers, bits, i/o, 
etc. is fast and easy.

Pete
AG7C
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[Elecraft] [K2] headphone jack replacement tips?

[John Shadle]

I think I finally might get to replacing my failed headphone jack this
weekend. Anyone have any tips for this little job? I recall that there
are more than a few pins to desolder.

Also, does it make sense to not put stress on the headphone jack in
the future by plugging my headphones into the external speaker jack on
the rear of the unit? My headphone cable is plenty long to reach
there, and would rather not have to replace this again in the
future--as it seems to be the case with many folks.

Thanks.
-john W4PAH
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Re: [Elecraft] Split not available

[JAMES ROGERS]

That would certainly cure the problem and would have been saved the tumult of 
"LID" and "UP UP" I received at the hands of the big guns. I had never ever 
before had a problem going to spilt so when I hit split, I set the VFO and 
started calling. Much to my surprise, split never happened. And the cure to the 
problem is, as you say, simply do an A>B before going to split. 

73s JIM, W4ATK
On Feb 11, 2011, at 10:30 AM, w...@w5ov.com wrote:

> If the "Split" function were to include a A->B like I suggested recently,
> this would not be an issue.
> 
> Some condemned this suggestion as a "bad" idea, but I doubt that they
> operate much or they would know what a pain in the neck this is.
> 
> The logic should be:
> When Holding Split: if VFO B is not already on the same band and mode,
> then it should do a VFO A -> VFO B, and then Split should be turned on.
> 
> If VFO B is already on the same band and mode as VFO A, then just turn
> Split on.
> 
> I find that the second condition NEVER occurs.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Bob W5OV
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Exactly.  I'm a new K3 owner (~1 week) and had the same issue a few days
>> into
>> ownership.VFO B was in a mode other than DATA A.
>> 
>> To prevent it from happening again, I added a double tap of A->B to my "go
>> to RTTY"  macro, which copies the mode of VFO A to VFO B, so both VFOs are
>> always the proper mode.
>> 
>> GL & 73,
>> 
>> Shel  KF0UR
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Re: [Elecraft] PIC Programming Book

[Alan Bloom]

I haven't read it but you might try ARRL's PIC Programming for
Beginners:

http://www.arrl.org/arrl-s-pic-programming-for-beginners

Al N1AL


On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 05:59 -0800, Lee Buller wrote:
> 
> My friend, Jeff, who is not ham (His wife is...go figure) is a computer Linux 
> geek and is trying to figure out how to program PIC computers.  I told him 
> the 
> other day that some Hams use them all the time in projects.  Not me...but 
> some 
> hams do.
> 
> He is having some issues with finding information about registers.  I wonder 
> if 
> the people on the list could point me to books, manuals, information 
> concerning 
> the programming of PIC devices?  
> 
> 
> Lee - K0WA
> 
> 
>  In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you 
> don't 
> have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you can't find 
> any 
> Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense.  Is 
> Common 
> Sense divine?
> 
> Common Sense is the image of the Creator expressing revealed truth in my 
> mind. 
> -  John W. (Kansas)
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[Elecraft] N2CQ QRP Contest Calendar: Feb 11 - Mar 11, 2010

[Ken Newman]

~
N2CQ QRP CONTEST CALENDAR
February 11 to March 11, 2011
~
Valentine Sprint (PODXS) (PSK-31) ... QRP Category
Feb 11, 8 PM to Feb 12, 2 AM LOCAL TIME
Rules: http://www.podxs070.com/valentine-sprint
~
CQ WW RTTY WPX Contest ... QRP Category
Feb 12, z to Feb 13, 2359z
Rules: http://www.cqwpxrtty.com/
~
Dutch PACC Contest (SSB/CW) ... QRP Category
Feb 12, 1200z to Feb 13, 1200z
Rules: http://pacc.veron.nl/
~
Louisiana QSO Party (Ph/CW-Dig)
Feb 12, 1500z to Feb 13, 0300z
Rules: http://www.qsl.net/kd5wdy/LAQSO_/laqso_.html
~
New Hampshire QSO Party (All) ... QRP Category
Feb 12, 1600z to Feb 13, 0400z and
Feb 13, 1200z to Feb 13, 2200z
Rules:
http://www.w1wqm.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/NH_rules1.pdf
~
FISTS Winter Sprint (CW of course) ...QRP Category
Feb 12, 1700z to 2100z
Rules: http://www.fists.org/sprints.html
~
SKCC Weekend Sprintathon (Straight Key CW) ... QRP Category
Feb 13, z to 2359z
Rules: http://www.skccgroup.com/sprint/wes/
~
North American Sprint (SSB) ... QRP Category
Feb 13, z to 0400z
Rules: http://www.ncjweb.com/sprintrules.php
~
UBA Foxhunt (CW/PSK31/SSB) *** QRP Contest ***
Feb 14, 1930z to 2030z
Rules: http://www.on5ex.be/foxhunt/foxhunt.html
~
80 METER FOXHUNT (CW) *** QRP Contest ***
EST: Feb 15, 9 PM to 10:29 PM
UTC: Feb 16, 0200z to 0329z
Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/
~
40 METER FOXHUNT (CW) *** QRP Contest ***
EST: Feb 17, 9 PM to 10:29 PM
UTC: Feb 18, 0200z to 0329z
Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/
~
Russian PSK WW Contest
Feb 18, 2100z to Feb 19, 2100z
Rules:
http://www.epc-ru.ru/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=562&Itemid=192
~
ARRL International DX Contest (CW) ... QRP Category
Feb 19, z to Feb 20, 2359z
Rules: http://www.arrl.org/arrl-dx
~
Feld Hell Club Sprint (Feld Hell) ... QRP Category
Feb 19, 2000z to 2200z
Rules: http://sites.google.com/site/feldhellclub/Home
~
RUN FOR THE BACON (CW) *** QRP CONTEST ***
EST: Feb 20, 9 PM to 11 PM
UTC: Feb 21, 0200z 0400z
Rules: http://www.fpqrp.com/
~
SKCC Sprint (Straight Key CW)  ... QRP Awards
Feb 23, z to 0200z
Rules: http://www.skccgroup.com/sprint/sks/
~
UBA Foxhunt (CW/PSK31/SSB) *** QRP Contest ***
Feb 21, 1930z to 2030z
Rules: http://www.on5ex.be/foxhunt/foxhunt.html
~
80 METER FOXHUNT (CW) *** QRP Contest ***
EST: Feb 22, 9 PM to 10:29 PM
UTC: Feb 23, 0200z to 0329z
Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/
~
40 METER FOXHUNT (CW) *** QRP Contest ***
EST: Feb 24, 9 PM to 10:29 PM
UTC: Feb 25, 0200z to 0329z
Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/
~
CQ WW 160-Meter DX Contest (SSB) ... QRP Category
Feb 25, 2200z to Feb 27, 2200z
Rules: http://www.cq160.com
~
REF (French) SSB Contest
Feb 26, 0600z to Feb 27, 1800z
Rules:
http://concours.ref-union.org/reglements/actuels/reg_cdfhfdx.pdf
~
UBA DX Contest - Belgium (CW) ... QRP Category
Feb 26, 1300z to Feb 27, 1300z
Rules:
http://www.uba.be/sites/default/files/uploads/hf_contests/ubatest_dx.pdf
~
Mississippi QSO Party (Ph/CW)
Feb 26, 1500z to Feb 27,0300
Rules: http://www.arrlmiss.org/2011MsQSOPartyRules.pdf
~
North American QSO Party (RTTY) ... 100W Max
Feb 26, 1800z to Feb 27, 0600z
Rules: http://www.ncjweb.com/naqprules.php
~
High Speed CW Club Contest ... QRP Category
Feb 27, 0900z to 1100z and 1500z to 1700z
Rules: http://www.dl3bzz.de/html/hscconte.html
~
North Carolina QSO Party (CW/SSB) ... QRP Category
Feb 27, 1700z to Feb 28, 0300z
Rules: http://www.w4nc.com/2011

Re: [Elecraft] QST Product Reviews: Iambic Keyer Mode

[Gary, W7TEA]

Mike, Ten Tec provides for CW mode selection on its larger rigs--Orion and
Omni VII.
I believe the Eagle only allows Curtis B mode.

Gary W7TEA

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73,

Gary W7TEA  K3 #1001
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Re: [Elecraft] Split not available

[w5ov]

If the "Split" function were to include a A->B like I suggested recently,
this would not be an issue.

Some condemned this suggestion as a "bad" idea, but I doubt that they
operate much or they would know what a pain in the neck this is.

The logic should be:
When Holding Split: if VFO B is not already on the same band and mode,
then it should do a VFO A -> VFO B, and then Split should be turned on.

If VFO B is already on the same band and mode as VFO A, then just turn
Split on.

I find that the second condition NEVER occurs.

73,

Bob W5OV



>
> Exactly.  I'm a new K3 owner (~1 week) and had the same issue a few days
> into
> ownership.VFO B was in a mode other than DATA A.
>
> To prevent it from happening again, I added a double tap of A->B to my "go
> to RTTY"  macro, which copies the mode of VFO A to VFO B, so both VFOs are
> always the proper mode.
>
> GL & 73,
>
> Shel  KF0UR
> --
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Re: [Elecraft] PIC Programming Book

[Byron Servies]

You may want to consider looking at the TI LaunchPad as well.  The demo
board is cheap (less than $5) and they are making a big push with them.

http://www.ti.com/launchpad

I'm just getting started with mine, but so far so good.


On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 7:01 AM, R. Kevin Stover  wrote:

>
> I've been playing with the idea of learning the way of the PIC. I'm a
> network/systems admin kinda guy so programming will be new. We'll see
> if I've got the patience.
>
>

73, Byron N6NUL

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Re: [Elecraft] Split not available

[Shel Radin KF0UR]

Exactly.  I'm a new K3 owner (~1 week) and had the same issue a few days into
ownership.VFO B was in a mode other than DATA A.

To prevent it from happening again, I added a double tap of A->B to my "go
to RTTY"  macro, which copies the mode of VFO A to VFO B, so both VFOs are
always the proper mode.

GL & 73,

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Re: [Elecraft] PIC Programming Book

[John Magliacane]

--- On Fri, 2/11/11, Lee Buller  wrote:

> My friend, Jeff, who is not ham (His wife is...go figure)
> is a computer Linux geek and is trying to figure out how
> to program PIC computers.  I told him the other day that
> some Hams use them all the time in projects.  Not me...but
> some hams do.
> 
> He is having some issues with finding information about
> registers.  I wonder if the people on the list could point
> me to books, manuals, information concerning the programming
> of PIC devices?  
> 
> 
> Lee - K0WA
> 

Lee,

I have assembled PIC code under Linux for several different Microchip 
microcontrollers using GPUTILS:

   http://gputils.sourceforge.net/

and have programmed them using Picprog:

  http://hyvatti.iki.fi/~jaakko/pic/picprog.html

Microchip's web site (http://www.microchip.com) provides datasheets, tutorials, 
and sample code for use by anyone interested in making use of their 
microcontrollers.  There are also on-line discussion groups (such as 
http://www.piclist.com) that provide VERY useful information.

I have also learned quite a bit by reading, "Programming & Customizing PICmicro 
Microcontrollers", by Myke Predko.

(Incidentally, it was the construction of my K2/100 in 2003 that was the 
driving force behind my getting interested in integrating PICs in many of my 
electronics projects.)


73, de John, KD2BD

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Re: [Elecraft] PIC Programming Book

[Brian Alsop]

Lee and Jeff,

By registers, I think you are referring to those bits which must be set 
to select the various options a particular PIC pin may be used for.
(If not skip the rest of this posting.)

Setting these registers is the bane of PIC programming.

There is a tendency for the programming documentation to send one to the 
nearly incomprehensible device spec sheet for details.  It varies from 
device to device.  These sheets usually give examples in assembly 
programming which really don't help the common man much.

The real solution seems to be to find a bit of coding that does 
something similar and use it as guidance.

Some of the problem is with the compiler used to generate the hex code. 
  Some are smart enough to set some or all of the registers for one, 
some are not.

If one is just fooling around trying to get one's feet wet in PIC 
programing then the PIC-AXE series of devices are ideal.  There is a 
free BASIC language compiler.  There are no registers to set!  The price 
per device is in the $5 to $10 price range. They are in circuit 
programmable so one doesn't need separate hardware to do the 
programming.  I just finished up rotor control box using one of their 
low end chips.

One might think that these devices can't do much.  Not so.  How about:
12 bit A/D converters (many/chip), D/A, RS232 I/O, IR device I/O, 
keyboard and keypad input, servo output, temperature read routines, + 
lots more.  Most are accessible with one or two line commands.  No 
registers to set!

We've fooled with here are the PARALLAX PIC's.  Easy like above and in 
circuit programmable.  Also no registers but $50 and up per chip is a 
barrier.

Then there is the MIKROBASIC suite of programs and compilers (BASIC,C, 
PASCAL, assembly) for 16F type chips (actually it encompasses the entire 
family through 40 pin PICS).  One can do a lot with the free versions of 
their compilers.  It requires a separate programming board and is geared 
to more high end chips/applications.  Documentation is decent and has 
lots of examples.  I made up a custom and software programmable antenna 
switch box using one of the 40 pin PIC's and the K3 BCD band data 
outputs.  Registers have to be mostly set by the user but some typical 
defaults are contained in device dependent chip files.

Here are some links:

http://www.mikroe.com/forum/
http://www.rev-ed.co.uk/picaxe/

It is totally amazing what can be done with a few bytes or RAM and a few 
K of ROM.  Once logic can be built into a chip, a whole world of 
possibilities open up.

BTW, I'm just an amateur with all the above.  It does take some (or a 
sometimes a lot of) muddling through to get there.

73 de Brian/K3KO

On 2/11/2011 13:59, Lee Buller wrote:
>
>
> My friend, Jeff, who is not ham (His wife is...go figure) is a computer Linux
> geek and is trying to figure out how to program PIC computers.  I told him the
> other day that some Hams use them all the time in projects.  Not me...but some
> hams do.
>
> He is having some issues with finding information about registers.  I wonder 
> if
> the people on the list could point me to books, manuals, information 
> concerning
> the programming of PIC devices?
>
>
> Lee - K0WA
>
>
>   In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you 
> don't
> have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you can't find 
> any
> Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense.  Is Common
> Sense divine?
>
> Common Sense is the image of the Creator expressing revealed truth in my mind.
> -  John W. (Kansas)
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Re: [Elecraft] PIC Programming Book

[R. Kevin Stover]

On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 05:59:00 -0800 (PST)
Lee Buller  wrote:

> 
> 
> My friend, Jeff, who is not ham (His wife is...go figure) is a
> computer Linux geek and is trying to figure out how to program PIC
> computers.  I told him the other day that some Hams use them all the
> time in projects.  Not me...but some hams do.
> 
> He is having some issues with finding information about registers.  I
> wonder if the people on the list could point me to books, manuals,
> information concerning the programming of PIC devices?  
> 
> 
> Lee - K0WA


Here's a place to start.

http://www.warpedlogic.co.uk/node/3

It all depends on what he's using to program, Assembly Language or a
high level language like C. If he's using Linux then it won't be Basic.

I've been playing with the idea of learning the way of the PIC. I'm a
network/systems admin kinda guy so programming will be new. We'll see
if I've got the patience.



-- 
R. Kevin Stover
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Re: [Elecraft] PIC Programming Book

[Jack Smith]

Although it's a few years old now, perhaps my book on PIC programming 
with MBasic would be of interest. It has several amateur radio related 
projects.

http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Microcontroller-MBASIC-Embedded-Technology/dp/0750679468/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1297433542&sr=8-1

Jack K8ZOA


On 2/11/2011 8:59 AM, Lee Buller wrote:
>
> My friend, Jeff, who is not ham (His wife is...go figure) is a computer Linux
> geek and is trying to figure out how to program PIC computers.  I told him the
> other day that some Hams use them all the time in projects.  Not me...but some
> hams do.
>
> He is having some issues with finding information about registers.  I wonder 
> if
> the people on the list could point me to books, manuals, information 
> concerning
> the programming of PIC devices?
>
>
> Lee - K0WA
>
>
>   In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you 
> don't
> have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you can't find 
> any
> Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense.  Is Common
> Sense divine?
>
> Common Sense is the image of the Creator expressing revealed truth in my mind.
> -  John W. (Kansas)
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[Elecraft] PIC Programming Book

[Lee Buller]

My friend, Jeff, who is not ham (His wife is...go figure) is a computer Linux 
geek and is trying to figure out how to program PIC computers.  I told him the 
other day that some Hams use them all the time in projects.  Not me...but some 
hams do.

He is having some issues with finding information about registers.  I wonder if 
the people on the list could point me to books, manuals, information concerning 
the programming of PIC devices?  


Lee - K0WA


 In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you 
don't 
have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you can't find 
any 
Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense.  Is Common 
Sense divine?

Common Sense is the image of the Creator expressing revealed truth in my mind. 
-  John W. (Kansas)
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