[Elecraft] K3 S-meter on sub-Rx

2011-03-30 Thread Edward R. Cole
I am installing a new 2m transverter to my K3 and ran into an issue 
with the s-meter on the K3.

The transverter has two Rx circuits so both the main and sub-Rx in 
the K3 are fed with converted 2m signal.  I was adjusting the IF gain 
in the transverter so that the noise level would read S2-S3 on the 
K3.  These are two separate gain pots one controlling the input to 
KVX3 Rx input and the other the aux input.

All that was going well, but I discovered that the s-meter only 
indicates signals from the main-Rx.  I have the sub-Rx input coming 
from the  aux antenna and not being fed from ANT1.  I can hear the 
change in noise level in the sub-Rx when I connect/disconnect to the 
aux antennas jack, but it is not showing up on the s-meter when the 
sub Rx is selected.  I discovered this after a lot of confusion, 
thinking I had a problem in the sub-Rx.

Is this normal (no s-meter reading from the sub-Rx?).  It is not 
really a big issue as I can adjust the level by looking at my two 
LP-Pan displays.  Just very surprised by the lack of s-meter function 
on the sub-Rx.  I wonder if this is an issue when running in 
transverter mode (CONFIG: XVN ON)?


73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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Re: [Elecraft] Forums?

2011-03-30 Thread Thom LaCosta
At 00:01 3/27/2011, ROBERT WOLF MD wrote:

I noticed that there isn't an Elecraft enthusiast forum. There seems 
to be some
Elecraft oriented discussion on the QRZ forums. I was wondering if anyone had
set up their own Elecraft discussion forums.

I had one online.it was not used.  Asking about a forum in a 
mailing list might
be like asking attendees at the camp meeting about Zen study groups.

That being saidI operate both a mailing list and a forum for RL 
Drake users at www.zerobeat.net.
Very few of the mailing list members join the forum, and vice 
versa.  There are a few of
us crazies that do walk both sides of the street.

73,
Thom k3hrn

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Re: [Elecraft] (K3) FOR SALE

2011-03-30 Thread Harry White
The K3/P3 combination has sold.

Thanks to all for the interest shown.

Harry
K1RSA

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I forgot to mention my call:

K1RSA

Harry

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Subject: [Elecraft] (K3) FOR SALE

For sale:

 

K3-100  S/N 3933 January, 2010 build with:

KAT3 ATU

KBPF3 General coverage RX module

KFL3A-2.8K 8 pole filter

KFL3A-2.1K 8 pole filter

KFL3A-6K 8 pole filter

KFL3A-400 hz. 8 pole filter

KUSB Universal Serial Bus Adapter

KXV3A Rx. Ant, IF out and Xverter interface

MH-2 Microphone

 

Pristine condition, non-smoking environment.

$2500.

 

P3 Panadapter S/N 106

 

Ditto condition

$600

 

Buy the pair for $3000.

 

Postal Money order or Paypal(add 3%) accepted.(I've never used Paypal so it
would be a learning experience) 

 

Shipped CONUS, insured. I'm in Scarborough, ME if you'd like to visit and
try them out.

 

Reason for selling: Family finances.

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 S-meter on sub-Rx

2011-03-30 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
While tuned into a signal on the Sub RX, do a hold on BSET.  This will
give you the S meter reading for the Sub RX tuned to the frequency in
VFO B.  This is also how you do other Sub RX settings, such as
ATT/PRE.  See page 37 in the manual, available in PDF format on the
Elecraft site.

You should be sure that you did the (separate) RF gain calibration and
S meter calibration for both main and Sub RX, before you set your
Transverter RX feed levels.

73, Guy.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Edward R. Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote:
 I am installing a new 2m transverter to my K3 and ran into an issue
 with the s-meter on the K3.

 The transverter has two Rx circuits so both the main and sub-Rx in
 the K3 are fed with converted 2m signal.  I was adjusting the IF gain
 in the transverter so that the noise level would read S2-S3 on the
 K3.  These are two separate gain pots one controlling the input to
 KVX3 Rx input and the other the aux input.

 All that was going well, but I discovered that the s-meter only
 indicates signals from the main-Rx.  I have the sub-Rx input coming
 from the  aux antenna and not being fed from ANT1.  I can hear the
 change in noise level in the sub-Rx when I connect/disconnect to the
 aux antennas jack, but it is not showing up on the s-meter when the
 sub Rx is selected.  I discovered this after a lot of confusion,
 thinking I had a problem in the sub-Rx.

 Is this normal (no s-meter reading from the sub-Rx?).  It is not
 really a big issue as I can adjust the level by looking at my two
 LP-Pan displays.  Just very surprised by the lack of s-meter function
 on the sub-Rx.  I wonder if this is an issue when running in
 transverter mode (CONFIG: XVN ON)?


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Re: [Elecraft] AF-1 For Sale or Trade

2011-03-30 Thread Ken Alexander
Hi Ron,

I did notice the peaking effect, but I didn't think the improvement was all 
that profound.  Also, the effect of the low pass filter is barely noticeable on 
the K2.  I sent an e-mail to tech support at Elecraft and was told to use it 
with a receiver with a wider audio bandwidth.  

I considered that a non-answer, but after thinking more I realized what they 
were saying was that the K2's audio was already pretty narrow so I shouldn't 
expect much.  They hint at that in their description of the AF-1 on their 
website.  I think the AF-1 would be much more effective overall when used with 
a lesser receiver.  For my ear, the K2 doesn't seem to need the help.

73 - Ken



--- On Tue, 3/29/11, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote:

 From: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] AF-1 For Sale or Trade
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 10:54 PM
 FWIW, among other things it does an
 excellent job of emulating the K3's
 Audio Peaking Filter (APF). The peak has variable gain and
 Q that can
 literally pull signals down in the noise up into the clear.
 
 
 Great addition to the K2 for weak signal enthusiasts. 
 
 Ron AC7AC
 
 -Original Message-
 
 
 I have a newly built AF-1 audio filter for sale.  It
 comes installed in the
 beautiful Lexan cabinet custom made by Dave, W8FGU. 
 Photo of the AF-1 in
 cabinet can be viewed on Dave's website at:
 
 http://w8fgu.home.comcast.net/~w8fgu/af1encl.html
 
 I built the AF-1 a few months ago and it works as
 advertised.  I just find
 that the filters in my K2 are so good that the additional
 filtering the AF-1
 provides isn't really needed.
 
 U.S. $75.00 includes the AF-1, battery, cabinet, AF-1
 manual and shipping to
 anywhere in North America.  I'll ship overseas but
 will have to get back to
 you with the postage rate first.  Paypal or money
 order please.
 
 I'm in the market for an Elecraft W-1 wattmeter, so if you
 have one and are
 interested in an AF-1 then maybe we can work out a
 trade.  Or if you just
 want to sell your W-1 then please get in touch with me.
 
 73 and thanks,
 
 Ken Alexander
 VE3HLS
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Re: [Elecraft] Is DVR audio really getting equalized and compressed?

2011-03-30 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Barry,

For the record, what I hear in the DVR is what I get. The DVR plus MON
output in the speakers is particularly good at telling how you will
sound.  And until now, that has been the only post-learning-curve
opinion of the DVR that I have ever heard.  That is why, taken with
your friends' over the air assessment (indicating that the DVR is
working properly), I suspect this has something to do with your
perception of how all the pieces work together.  Your friends' taste
in voice could simply vary from yours, you deem the same audio soft
and they don't.

But first try this procedure, and see what happens. This is designed
to get a contest voice at a contest operating level and shape it for
best effect.  It also steers around points where things can get messed
up.  If you want to get in the neighborhood with your CMP and TX EQ
settings using MON and listening in phones at the same time, go ahead.
 But finish off with the procedure below.

===

Go into CONFIG:TX DVR and set it to Ind. If you don't have the TX
DVR option, you will need to upgrade firmware.

Set MODE to LSB or USB on a band that currently has loud SSB signals.
Tune in a busy frequency. Set AGC to fast, RF gain to max and AF gain
to your normal listening level.  Leave this audio up and running
during the entire procedure.  If the frequency goes quiet, go find
another busy one.  This is to keep your speaking voice unconsciously
calibrated to talking in a noisy cafeteria.

If the left lower bar is showing SWR  RF instead of CMP  ALC, do a
hold on METER to get CMP  ALC.

Do a hold on MON.  With TX DVR set to Ind, this hold will be a
toggle between MON and DVR. Set DVR to 20 to start and MON to 0
(zero).

Tap SPEED/MIC to get MIC and tap CMP/PWR to get CMP. Set CMP to 10 to start.

Hold TEST to place rig in test mode.  Make SURE you get the flashing
TX, especially for this procedure.

Write down what you are going to say for the recording and put it in
front of you. Many people will speak better, with an un-self-conscious
full voice, when speaking from a script, better than they will
speaking without a script.  At this point do not worry about making
the recording with the right compression or TX equalizer settings.

Key the mike and read the script to match your speaking volume with
what you were hearing on the frequency.  During the reading advance
the MIC gain so that you get 5-7 segments on the ALC scale.  If you
cannot get 5-7 segments, it will be a mike settings issue of some
sort.  Come back to this procedure after you have remedied the
problem.  Repeat this while adjusting mic gain so that your reading
voice, at the same level as the radio conversation, gets 5-7 segments
on the ALC with your mic gain setting.

Write down this MIC setting. You should use it any time you are using
this microphone, and then use the ALC segments at 5-7 to keep your
voice at level.  Leave the MIC at this setting.  When you are
transmitting after this, raise or lower your voice to get the 5-7
segments on the ALC.

Listen to the chatter on frequency to recalibrate your hearing. Tap
REC, tap M1, read the memory text at a normal full voice using 5-7 ALC
segments to set your level. Tap M1 to end.  My MH2 and the K3 do not
require PTT to be asserted to record.  Recording begins with the first
tap on M1, ends with the second tap on M1.

Now replay the DVR by tapping M1. Use hold on MON to get to the DVR
setting. Adjust the DVR and repeat the playback so your voice playback
has the same volume as the SSB conversation.  This is important so
that your hearing of the playback is not biased by loudness
frequency response issues

Now repeat the record/playback cycle as many times as needed,
adjusting TX equalizer and CMP before recording to get your desired TX
voice sound. Remember to turn off the EQ display by tapping menu after
setting each time. You may find that it starts to sound louder. If so
reduce DVR to keep the playback at the same volume as the SSB on
frequency.  Note that the effects of MIC, CMP and TX EQ are ONLY
asserted in the recording.  These have no effect when playing back the
recording for transmit.  PWR will set the PEP output when transmitted.

CMP should be advanced until you hear something that sounds like fuzz
or distortion, then reduce it by 4 or 5 so you don't hear any fuzz or
distortion. Adjust TX equalizer settings until your voice sounds
sharp or brilliant while the lows are moderate to keep from
sounding tinny.  Once you have this sound, leave MIC, CMP, DVR, and
TX EQ alone.

This will be a more accurate method than listening via MON in headsets
while you are talking, particularly in hearing the effects from too
much CMP, or too much high emphasis. You should be able to set your
processed voice for a rich high silibant content (brightness) with
just enough lows to sound right and CMP a bit lower than adds what
sounds like distortion to your signal.

When you have this, the MIC gain, CMP setting, TX equalizer 

Re: [Elecraft] AF-1 For Sale or Trade

2011-03-30 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
No argument Ken! The AF-1 wasn't created as a K2-specific accessory, but as
a useful little filter for any receiver (especially lesser receivers
without the K2's filtering) or as an adjunct to simple homebrew receivers. I
don't use the low pass capability with the K2 either.

My point was that it does provide a nice audio peaking filter (APF) that
many people enjoy on the K3. And again you are right - I use the APF only
for certain specific situations where the signal is down in the noise. 

I was pointing out that capability for anyone without a K3 who wanted that
feature for their K2, K1 or even the KX1. 

73,

Ron AC7AC


-Original Message-

Hi Ron,

I did notice the peaking effect, but I didn't think the improvement was all
that profound.  Also, the effect of the low pass filter is barely noticeable
on the K2.  I sent an e-mail to tech support at Elecraft and was told to use
it with a receiver with a wider audio bandwidth.  

I considered that a non-answer, but after thinking more I realized what they
were saying was that the K2's audio was already pretty narrow so I shouldn't
expect much.  They hint at that in their description of the AF-1 on their
website.  I think the AF-1 would be much more effective overall when used
with a lesser receiver.  For my ear, the K2 doesn't seem to need the help.

73 - Ken



--- On Tue, 3/29/11, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote:

 From: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz


 FWIW, among other things it does an
 excellent job of emulating the K3's
 Audio Peaking Filter (APF). The peak has variable gain and
 Q that can
 literally pull signals down in the noise up into the clear.
 
 
 Great addition to the K2 for weak signal enthusiasts. 
 
 Ron AC7AC
 

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[Elecraft] P3 for dummies?

2011-03-30 Thread Mike Fatchett W0MU
Has anyone written or thought about writing such a guide?

The P3 can do lots of things.  The manual is pretty brief and doesn't 
really discuss why you would want to use this feature or that feature etc.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 S-meter on sub-Rx

2011-03-30 Thread Edward R. Cole
Thanks to K2AV and G0AFH for how to get the sub-Rx s-meter 
readings.  Also advice on RF gain Calib. on both Rx.

This was just a preliminary set up to get things close for a starting point.

As it turns out I got the two Rx within 1/2 s-unit of equal using 
ambient noise: Main Rx (Vpol) = S7; sub-Rx (H-pol) = S6
And that can be a difference in noise polarization at the antenna.

I will have to do a very thorough RF calibration with all components 
connected in the system for getting the dual-polarity diversity 
system set up properly.  This includes preamp gains, cable losses, K3 
IF gain variation, LP-Pan variation and soundcard levels.  Both 
channels need to be made equal in amplitude using a single signal 
source. Only then will the Linrad sw indicate polarity angle accurately.

See more of what I am doing:


73, Ed

At 06:00 AM 3/30/2011, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
While tuned into a signal on the Sub RX, do a hold on BSET.  This will
give you the S meter reading for the Sub RX tuned to the frequency in
VFO B.  This is also how you do other Sub RX settings, such as
ATT/PRE.  See page 37 in the manual, available in PDF format on the
Elecraft site.

You should be sure that you did the (separate) RF gain calibration and
S meter calibration for both main and Sub RX, before you set your
Transverter RX feed levels.

73, Guy.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Edward R. Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote:
  I am installing a new 2m transverter to my K3 and ran into an issue
  with the s-meter on the K3.
 
  The transverter has two Rx circuits so both the main and sub-Rx in
  the K3 are fed with converted 2m signal.  I was adjusting the IF gain
  in the transverter so that the noise level would read S2-S3 on the
  K3.  These are two separate gain pots one controlling the input to
  KVX3 Rx input and the other the aux input.
 
  All that was going well, but I discovered that the s-meter only
  indicates signals from the main-Rx.  I have the sub-Rx input coming
  from the  aux antenna and not being fed from ANT1.  I can hear the
  change in noise level in the sub-Rx when I connect/disconnect to the
  aux antennas jack, but it is not showing up on the s-meter when the
  sub Rx is selected.  I discovered this after a lot of confusion,
  thinking I had a problem in the sub-Rx.
 
  Is this normal (no s-meter reading from the sub-Rx?).  It is not
  really a big issue as I can adjust the level by looking at my two
  LP-Pan displays.  Just very surprised by the lack of s-meter function
  on the sub-Rx.  I wonder if this is an issue when running in
  transverter mode (CONFIG: XVN ON)?
 
 
  73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 S-meter on sub-Rx

2011-03-30 Thread Edward R. Cole
My reply got sent before inserting the link:
http://www.kl7uw.com/DEMI144-28DRX.htm


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Re: [Elecraft] Diversity RX and Speaker settings

2011-03-30 Thread Rex Lint
 Remember it is your BRAIN'S processing of the sounds that does the
magic. Mixing the two audios into one signal prior to brain kills it.

Not altogether:  With fading on one antenna and not on the other, then vice
versa, diversity makes listening to the result copyable where it's NOT if
you just listen to one or the other.  They don't have to be in different
ears.  A lot of folks only have hearing in 1 ear, and diversity is still
valuable!

  -Rex-
 
   K1HI
   Rex Lint
   Merrimack, NH
   WWW.QRZ.COM/db/k1hi 


-Rex-

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-Original Message-
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Guy Olinger K2AV
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:57 PM
To: K3RWN
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Diversity RX and Speaker settings

No-No-No...

Diversity means one receiver in one ear and the other RX in the other ear.

I use two stereo speakers most of the time with diversity and it is
really quite good.  I DON'T have to use headphones for diversity.  The
two speakers are enough to spread the sound of the noise across what
seems like 140 degrees with my ears.  That, with CW or SSB sounding
discreet in a single place before me (CW more so of course) is
wonderful for improving SSB that I simply could not copy monaural.

Remember it is your BRAIN'S processing of the sounds that does the
magic. Mixing the two audios into one signal prior to brain kills it.

73, Guy.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:45 PM, K3RWN rwnewbo...@comcast.net wrote:
 When using Diversity RX is it better to set the SPKRs to 1 or 2?



 I typically leave my speakers set to 2 (main and sub).  I was thinking
 that maybe in diversity that 1 may be a better choice.



 Any comments?



 Rich

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[Elecraft] ANNOUCEMENT: QRP-ARCI SPRING QSO PARTY

2011-03-30 Thread Jeff Hetherington
2011 QRP-ARCI(sm) Spring QSO Party Announcement


Date/Time:  

1200Z on 2 April 2011 through 2359Z on 3 April 2011.  You may work a maximum of 
24 hours of the 36 hour period.  

Mode:   

HF CW only.

Exchange:   

Members send:  RST, State/Province/Country, ARCI member number
Non-Members send:  RST, State/Province/Country, Power Out

QSO Points: 

Member = 5 points
Non-Member, Different Continent = 4 points
Non-Member, Same Continent = 2 points

Multiplier: 

SPC (State/Province/Country) total for all bands.  The same station may be 
worked on multiple bands for QSO points and SPC credit.

Power Multiplier:   

5 Watts = x1
1 - 5 Watts = x7
250 mW - 1 Watt = x10
55 mW - 250 mW = x15
55 mW or less = x20

Suggested Frequencies:

160m1810 kHz
80m 3560 kHz
40m 7030 kHz (please listen at 7040 kHz for rock bound participants)
20m 14060 kHz
15m 21060 kHz
10m 28060 kHz

Score:

Final Score = Points (total for all bands) x SPCs (total for all bands) x Power 
Multiplier.

Teams:  

You may enter as a team with an unlimited number of operators as long as no 
more than 5 transmitters are on the air concurrently.  You compete individually 
as well as on the team.  Teams need not be in the same location.  Team captains 
must send a list of members to the Contest Manager before the contest.

Categories: 

Entry may be All-Band, Single Band, High Bands (10m-15m-20m) or Low Bands 
(40m-80m-160m)

Mulitoperator:

A multioperator effort may submit logs for a separate category.  Any 
combination of operators and transmitters will be permitted.  All transmitters 
must be located at a centralized location.  All operators must use the same 
callsign in the multioperator category.


How to Participate:

Get on any of the HF bands except the WARC bands and hang out near the QRP 
frequencies.  Work as many stations calling CQ QRP or CQ TEST as possible, or 
call CQ QRP or CQ TEST yourself!  You can work a station for credit once on 
each band.

Log Submission: 

Email Submission:  Submit Logs in plain text format along with a summary 
stating your Callsign, Entry Category, Actual Power and Station Description 
along with score calculation to va3...@yahoo.ca

Snail mail Submission:  

Submit Logs along with a summary stating your Callsign, Entry Categorym Actual 
Power and Station Description along with score calculation to:

ARCI Spring QSO Party
c/o Jeff Hetherington, VA3JFF
139 Elizabeth St. W.
Welland, Ontario
Canada  L3C 4M3

Deadline:

Entries must be postmarked on or before 17 April 2011.

Results:

Will be published in QRP Quarterly and shown on the QRP-ARCI website.

Certificates:   

Will be awarded to the top scoring entrant in each category, as well as the top 
scoring entrants from each State, Province and Country.  Certificates may be 
awarded for 2nd and 3rd place if entries are sufficient in a category.

73/72
Jeff
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Re: [Elecraft] AF-1 For Sale or Trade

2011-03-30 Thread Ken Alexander
Hi Ron,

Agreed!  Let's face it...if you have a K2 the only way to do better is to get a 
K3.  And if you have a K3...well, you can't hope to do better (until the K4 
comes out!)

73 - Ken


--- On Wed, 3/30/11, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote:

 From: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz
 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] AF-1 For Sale or Trade
 To: 'Ken Alexander' k.alexan...@rogers.com
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 10:51 AM
 No argument Ken! The AF-1 wasn't
 created as a K2-specific accessory, but as
 a useful little filter for any receiver (especially
 lesser receivers
 without the K2's filtering) or as an adjunct to simple
 homebrew receivers. I
 don't use the low pass capability with the K2 either.
 
 My point was that it does provide a nice audio peaking
 filter (APF) that
 many people enjoy on the K3. And again you are right - I
 use the APF only
 for certain specific situations where the signal is down in
 the noise. 
 
 I was pointing out that capability for anyone without a K3
 who wanted that
 feature for their K2, K1 or even the KX1. 
 
 73,
 
 Ron AC7AC
 
 
 -Original Message-
 
 Hi Ron,
 
 I did notice the peaking effect, but I didn't think the
 improvement was all
 that profound.  Also, the effect of the low pass filter is
 barely noticeable
 on the K2.  I sent an e-mail to tech support at Elecraft
 and was told to use
 it with a receiver with a wider audio bandwidth.  
 
 I considered that a non-answer, but after thinking more I
 realized what they
 were saying was that the K2's audio was already pretty
 narrow so I shouldn't
 expect much.  They hint at that in their description of
 the AF-1 on their
 website.  I think the AF-1 would be much more effective
 overall when used
 with a lesser receiver.  For my ear, the K2 doesn't seem
 to need the help.
 
 73 - Ken
 
 
 
 --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz
 wrote:
 
  From: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz
 
 
  FWIW, among other things it does an
  excellent job of emulating the K3's
  Audio Peaking Filter (APF). The peak has variable gain
 and
  Q that can
  literally pull signals down in the noise up into the
 clear.
  
  
  Great addition to the K2 for weak signal enthusiasts.
 
  
  Ron AC7AC
  
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Diversity RX and Speaker settings

2011-03-30 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/30/2011 9:40 AM, Rex Lint wrote:
 Remember it is your BRAIN'S processing of the sounds that does the
 magic. Mixing the two audios into one signal prior to brain kills it.
 Not altogether:  With fading on one antenna and not on the other, then vice
 versa, diversity makes listening to the result copyable where it's NOT if
 you just listen to one or the other.  They don't have to be in different
 ears.  A lot of folks only have hearing in 1 ear, and diversity is still
 valuable!

Actually, you're both right.  There are time and phase differences 
between the outputs of the two receivers that are a result of different 
arrivals at the two antennas, and or the spacing of the two antennas, so 
mixing them ELECTRICALLY into a single audio channel can strongly 
degrade the received signal. This degradation does not occur, or is much 
less severe, if the two signals are mixed acoustically (that is, by 
feeding each to a different speaker). It is also minimized by mixing the 
two signals at un-equal gain -- that is, by using more audio gain on one 
RX than the other. This is one way that the pan configuration of the 
front panel audio gain control could be helpful.

Bottom line -- you should always listen in both ears if both ears work, 
but if you've got only one good ear, be very careful how you combine the 
two receivers.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Diversity RX and Speaker settings

2011-03-30 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I get that there is still a benefit on fading, but the spreading of
noise and fixing of discrete signals that goes on with no channel
mixing except in the brain has no parallel for working signals in the
noise. With true diversity in separated fading, the signal walks
from one side to the other WITHOUT losing the noise-busting advantage
of true diversity.

73, Guy.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Rex Lint r...@lint.mv.com wrote:
 Remember it is your BRAIN'S processing of the sounds that does the
magic. Mixing the two audios into one signal prior to brain kills it.

 Not altogether:  With fading on one antenna and not on the other, then vice
 versa, diversity makes listening to the result copyable where it's NOT if
 you just listen to one or the other.  They don't have to be in different
 ears.  A lot of folks only have hearing in 1 ear, and diversity is still
 valuable!

      -Rex-

       K1HI
       Rex Lint
       Merrimack, NH
       WWW.QRZ.COM/db/k1hi


    -Rex-

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     26 Brek Drive
     Merrimack, NH 03054
  PH:    603-860-7651


 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Guy Olinger K2AV
 Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:57 PM
 To: K3RWN
 Cc: Elecraft Reflector
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Diversity RX and Speaker settings

 No-No-No...

 Diversity means one receiver in one ear and the other RX in the other ear.

 I use two stereo speakers most of the time with diversity and it is
 really quite good.  I DON'T have to use headphones for diversity.  The
 two speakers are enough to spread the sound of the noise across what
 seems like 140 degrees with my ears.  That, with CW or SSB sounding
 discreet in a single place before me (CW more so of course) is
 wonderful for improving SSB that I simply could not copy monaural.

 Remember it is your BRAIN'S processing of the sounds that does the
 magic. Mixing the two audios into one signal prior to brain kills it.

 73, Guy.

 On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:45 PM, K3RWN rwnewbo...@comcast.net wrote:
 When using Diversity RX is it better to set the SPKRs to 1 or 2?



 I typically leave my speakers set to 2 (main and sub).  I was thinking
 that maybe in diversity that 1 may be a better choice.



 Any comments?



 Rich

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[Elecraft] Soldering videos, including SMT techniques

2011-03-30 Thread Alan D. Wilcox
All,

Here's a collection of videos on soldering and desoldering for the 
beginner and experienced alike at http://www.solder.net/technical/tips.asp

Something for everyone!

Cheers, Alan

Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K2-5373, K3-40)
570-321-1516
http://WilcoxEngineering.com
http://eBookEditor.net
https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/28062?ref=awilcox
Williamsport, PA 17701



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[Elecraft] new K2 QRV

2011-03-30 Thread Peter Wierach
Hi,
my second K2/10  #7130 now qrv, again great fun to build...

A question; I would like to modify a Bird slug 100B to a 20 watt 2-30 
Mhz slug.
I think the main problem is to get the right coil inductance. The 100B 
slug is already open.
Can anyone give me some help?

thanks, 73 Peter, DF8BB
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[Elecraft] OT: Bird Wattmeter Element Repair

2011-03-30 Thread Ken - K0PP

Peter, others ..

Here's the Bird element information:

 
http://www.repeater-builder.com/projects/bird-element-tour/bird-element-tour.html

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 for dummies?

2011-03-30 Thread Sam Morgan
speaking of the P3 manual, a few comments

Referencing to the ftp site ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/P3/
It might be good to change the 2344 KB P3 Owner's man Rev A1.pdf
uploaded 7/29/2010 to the newest one found here:

(1.5 MB) P3 Panadapter Owner's Manual Rev A7  (November 20, 2010)
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/P3%20Owner%27s%20man%20Rev%20A7.pdf

and perhaps even include the:
(64 KB) P3 Owner's Manual Errata (Rev A7-1, 01/24/2011)
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/P3%20Owners%20Manual%20Errata%20A7-1.pdf

and the:
(17 KB) P3 Programmer's Reference (Rev A2, 11/24/2010)
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/P3_Pgmrs_Ref_Rev_A2.pdf


also I have a copy of How to Set Up and Interpret the P3 Display (Oct 11, 2010)
saved to my computer, but I have no clue where I got it, or where anyone else 
could get it? There may even be an updated version as there have been some new 
features included since Oct. 11, 2011.


the Web Page Changes page:
http://www.elecraft.com/web_additions.htm
doesn't seem to be able to keep up with the site's changes?

I would  have sent the info to the webmaster address found on the contacts page:
http://www.elecraft.com/how_to_contact_elecraft.htm
Web Page comments and corrections   webmas...@elecraft.com

but I have done that many times before
and either I am being considered spam
or there is a black hole at that address,
but it has never produced any results before,
but posts to this list do,
so I figured I'd take the opportunity
to piggy back this thread with the above comments

please don't shoot the messenger,
just trying to be informative,
not meant as being mean or critical.

P.S. yes I DO understand the webmaster is wearing many hats,
and priority are priorities  that said :-/

GB  73
K5OAI
Sam Morgan

On 3/30/2011 10:09 AM, Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
 Has anyone written or thought about writing such a guide?

 The P3 can do lots of things.  The manual is pretty brief and doesn't
 really discuss why you would want to use this feature or that feature etc.
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 s/n 2512 completed

2011-03-30 Thread K8QI
Chuck,
I'm presently building KX1 # 2520 currently in phase 2.Appreciate the
heads up on the 2 items you mention.I did read the step with the R32 and
was confused.   But thought when I got to that step, it would be clearer...  
Glad your's is up and and working fine.Hope to join you on the air very
soon. 

73
Barry K8QI

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[Elecraft] [K2] Static Protection Method

2011-03-30 Thread Eugene Balinski
All,

Now that I have the K2 opened for another issue, what
is the recommended static protection method ?   500k 1/4w
resistor from the center conductor of the PL-259 to ground
?


73

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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Static Protection Method

2011-03-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Gene,

I cannot make any recommendation, but the 500k 1/4 watt resistor would 
seem a bit high to me.  I would go no higher than 100k (50k would be a 
good choice IMHO) and would use a 1/2 watt resistor instead.

Do not use a choke inside the K2 - there used to be one at the SO-239 
jack, but it can couple into the base K2 and cause problems.  It was 
removed with the latest KPA100 upgrade.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/30/2011 2:43 PM, Eugene Balinski wrote:
 All,

  Now that I have the K2 opened for another issue, what
 is the recommended static protection method ?   500k 1/4w
 resistor from the center conductor of the PL-259 to ground
 ?

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[Elecraft] Fwd: Elecraft report for 3/27/11

2011-03-30 Thread phils
 

Here is the net report from the 3/27/11 Elecraft SSB net.  Thanks to
Ken, KO5Y, and John, N6JW, for taking the net in my absence. 

CALL NAMEQTH s/n 

AB6CE  RoyMT   40 

K8EAG  Gil  MI  99 

K8DJC  Nelson OH560 

N6JW   John  CA 936 

WD1V   John  NH1914 

AE6IC   Fred   CA 2241 

AI4VZGeorge GA  2412 

KK7PLyleWA 3066 

NF4LMikeFL  3589 

W4RKSJim AL 3618 

KD0HII Brian  IA   3672 

K6LMP LewCA 3805 

W5OAI  Sam  TX   4123 

KO5YKenNM 4442 

WB6CLZ MikeCA  4522 

KE4WY   Jim   KY  4864 

N2HMM  John NJ  5033 

K8TOB   Bob  OH  5144 

K2ASP   Phil   OR  5402 

N6LFW Woody  CA 
73, 

Phil, NS7P
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Static Protection Method

2011-03-30 Thread Igor Sokolov
In Multy Single club station we use cathode followers. They protect front 
end from overload and static 100%

73, Igor UA9CDC

 All,

Now that I have the K2 opened for another issue, what
 is the recommended static protection method ?   500k 1/4w
 resistor from the center conductor of the PL-259 to ground
 ?


 73

 Gene K1NR
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[Elecraft] K3 SN 5244 Successfully Completed !

2011-03-30 Thread stan levandowski
Eighteen hours over two days and I now have a superb state-of-the-art 
rig.  No inventory issues, no assembly problems, no setup problems. 
First contact was EW8O on 15 meters with 5 watts just a couple hours 
ago.

It will be quite awhile before I will be able to really operate the K3 
to its potential because there's quite a bit to learn.


Anybody on the fence about building a K3 might find the following 
video I made informing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf_pEhFWlSE

73,


Stan Levandowski WB2LQF
HF QRP CW -- Doing more with less for over 50 years!
QCWA #35038   OOTC #4558   NAQCC #4740   SKCC #6488   FISTS #14992 QRP 
ARCI #14321





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Re: [Elecraft] K3 SN 5244 Successfully Completed !

2011-03-30 Thread Gary Gregory
*Grin...your video is 'Private' and requires a Log In...I have no idea how
to view it as I don't have an 'account' with you tube*
*
*
*I never knew about that until now...interesting.*
*
*
*Well done on the construction and yep, you do have a thing or three to
learn but what fun it is.*
*
*
*73's*
*Gary
*
On 31 March 2011 06:10, stan levandowski sjl...@optonline.net wrote:

 Eighteen hours over two days and I now have a superb state-of-the-art
 rig.  No inventory issues, no assembly problems, no setup problems.
 First contact was EW8O on 15 meters with 5 watts just a couple hours
 ago.

 It will be quite awhile before I will be able to really operate the K3
 to its potential because there's quite a bit to learn.


 Anybody on the fence about building a K3 might find the following
 video I made informing.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf_pEhFWlSE

 73,


 Stan Levandowski WB2LQF
 HF QRP CW -- Doing more with less for over 50 years!
 QCWA #35038   OOTC #4558   NAQCC #4740   SKCC #6488   FISTS #14992 QRP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 SN 5244 Successfully Completed !

2011-03-30 Thread stan levandowski



On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:

   Grin...your video is 'Private' and requires a Log In...I have no idea 
how to view it as I don't have an 'account' with you tube

I never knew about that until now...interesting.

FIXED. I Made it public.  Very sorry!

Stan WB2LQF
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Re: [Elecraft] Is DVR audio really getting equalized and compressed?

2011-03-30 Thread DL5OCD
Wow,

these are very confusing answers. I have had the same question and talked to
Lyle (the DSP Guru).
But now to your questions:

1.  Does the DVR playback audio really pass through TX EQ and audio 
compression before being transmitted? 

YES, IT DOES !!!

2.  If so, why does it sound so different from live audio, as I hear it 
my headphones in TX Test mode? 

See answer 1.

3.  Is there a separate audio gain setting for the DVR output that I'm 
missing?

No, but maybe it comes up in the future...

73
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Static Protection Method

2011-03-30 Thread FredJensen
I use a 50K 1/2W in a male BNC with a BNC T-adapter on the radio ... 
resistor plugs into one arm, antenna into the other.  I have the KPA100 
and KAT100, but since I got the K3, I've kept the QRP top on my K2 and 
use it for field contests, summit activations, and the like.  One note:  
I find some way to earth the ground screw on the K2 ... sometimes not 
all that easy in field sites.  With the chassis grounded, or at least 
partially so, precip static decreases and the KNB2 does a good job of 
taking it out.  I think there is some reason why you don't want an RF 
choke inside the K2, but it escapes me at the moment.

73,

Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA

On 3/30/2011 6:43 PM, Eugene Balinski wrote:
 All,

  Now that I have the K2 opened for another issue, what
 is the recommended static protection method ?   500k 1/4w
 resistor from the center conductor of the PL-259 to ground
 ?

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 SN 5244 Successfully Completed !

2011-03-30 Thread Robert Harmon
Stan,
Great very organized build !  Congratulations on your new K3 !

73,
Bob
K6UJ



On Mar 30, 2011, at 1:57 PM, stan levandowski wrote:

 
 
 
 On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
 
   Grin...your video is 'Private' and requires a Log In...I have no idea 
 how to view it as I don't have an 'account' with you tube
 
 I never knew about that until now...interesting.
 
 FIXED. I Made it public.  Very sorry!
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Is DVR audio really getting equalized and compressed?

2011-03-30 Thread N6JW
Hi Michael:

Thanks for helping clarify some of the confusion.  Unfortunately, you
have perhaps (inadvertently) added some of your own.

Lyle (the DSP guru) has commented on these questions in several
places.  Perhaps none more clearly as here (from Nov 16, 2010):

 1.  Does the TX EQ apply to what I record in the DVR, 
no 
 or does it apply when the DVR plays back into the TX? 
yes 
 2.  When I play the DVR back, does the monitor signal 
reflect whatever TX EQ I set? 
If fastmon is not enabled, yes. 
 3.  Is it also conditioned by my RX EQ settings? 
no 
 4.  If I record someone off the air, does my RX EQ settings affect what 
 is recorded? 
yes 
 5.  If I play the recording back to him, is my TX EQ applied to it? 
yes 

73, 
Lyle KK7P 

See--
http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/DVR-Questions-td5745943.html#a5746002

From the above, one can now further elaborate on the three original
questions, as follows:

1.  Does the DVR playback audio really pass through TX EQ and audio 
compression before being transmitted? 

YES, IT DOES !!!

Correct.

2.  If so, why does it sound so different from live audio, as I hear it 
my headphones in TX Test mode? 

See answer 1.

Confusing.  For all practical purposes the DVR output and live audio 
should be indistinguishable, AS LONG AS, you are using the same
mic (and element for those with two) that you used to make the 
recording.  I have confirmed this multiple times in actual on the air
use.  This has also been confirmed by other posters.

3.  Is there a separate audio gain setting for the DVR output that I'm 
missing?

No, but maybe it comes up in the future...

Potential for confusion here.  If the question is TX gain setting, like
mike gain the answer is no.  But in my experience there is NO need
for such a setting.  Reason being, the DVR produces an exact digital
copy of what your mike produced when recording it; and when playing
back the DVR signal is injected at EXACTLY the same point in the TX
chain that the mike is.  This is why the output should be indistinguishable.

On the other hand, if the original question is asking about the playback 
audio heard in your headphones or speakers (like as is the case with the
monitor audio), then the right (up-to-date) answer is YES.  This feature 
was added back in FW 4.12 [current FW is 4.25 production release, and 
FW 4.31 beta, I believe]  Monitor and DVR playback audio levels are 
independently adjustable.  See Revision Notes for instructions on use.

Hope this helps,

73

John, N6JW



DL5OCD wrote:
 
 Wow,
 
 these are very confusing answers. I have had the same question and talked
 to Lyle (the DSP Guru).
 But now to your questions:
 
 1.  Does the DVR playback audio really pass through TX EQ and audio 
 compression before being transmitted? 
 
 YES, IT DOES !!!
 
 2.  If so, why does it sound so different from live audio, as I hear it 
 my headphones in TX Test mode? 
 
 See answer 1.
 
 3.  Is there a separate audio gain setting for the DVR output that I'm 
 missing?
 
 No, but maybe it comes up in the future...
 
 73
 Michael
 

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[Elecraft] K3: NB and changing bands

2011-03-30 Thread Mike Fatchett W0MU
Why does the radio shut off the nb when changing bands?  Is there a way 
to tell the radio not to do this?

W0MU


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Re: [Elecraft] Is DVR audio really getting equalized and compressed?

2011-03-30 Thread FredJensen
Like some other threads, I'm baffled by this one.  I installed the 
KDVR3.  I recorded some stuff from my Heil headset/boom mic I got from 
Elecraft [iC element I think, plugged into the back jack] without 
messing around with any of my audio settings.  I played them back in TX 
TEST mode, and they sounded like I sound to myself in the monitor audio, 
including audio levels.  I played them for a nearby buddy and talked to 
him.  He couldn't tell the difference.  In the WPX SSB last weekend, I 
got 3 unsolicited Great audio reports, one from 9K.

I have my TX EQ set as Jim, K9YC, has posted here several times, strong 
low cut and moderate high boost.  I'm nearly deaf, so I have my RX EQ 
for SSB set to try to approximate the shape of my digital hearing 
aids.   It doesn't have near the gain they do, but it does help.  I have 
recorded off-the air [same buddy], and played it back to him on the air, 
both with my normal TX EQ and with it flat.  He can definitely tell the 
difference.

As I said, I'm baffled by this thread.  My KDVR3 was literally plug and 
play.  I first used it in the ARRL SS for the static part of my 
exchange and CQ.  Several people said [unsolicited], nice to hear 
recorded audio that sounds like you do.  If there's a separate gain 
control for it in the latest firmware, that's OK, I'll just ignore it.

73,

Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA

On 3/30/2011 10:59 PM, N6JW wrote:
 Hi Michael:

 Thanks for helping clarify some of the confusion.  Unfortunately, you
 have perhaps (inadvertently) added some of your own.

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[Elecraft] X1, X3 X5 grounding

2011-03-30 Thread W6EOD
I got a little ahead of myself while grounding crystals X1, 3 and 5.  I
grounded to the sides.  Is this a problem.  Should I add wire to take the
ground to the top of the can?

Steve W6EOD

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[Elecraft] K3: NB and changing bands

2011-03-30 Thread Paul Kirley
See CONFIG: NB SAVE

73, Paul W8TM

W0MU asked:
 Why does the radio shut off the nb when changing bands?  Is there a way 
to tell the radio not to do this?



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Re: [Elecraft] K3: NB and changing bands

2011-03-30 Thread Mike Fatchett W0MU
I should have looked there!  FB!

On 3/30/2011 6:29 PM, Paul Kirley wrote:
 See CONFIG: NB SAVE

 73, Paul W8TM

 W0MU asked:
 Why does the radio shut off the nb when changing bands?  Is there a way
 to tell the radio not to do this?



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Re: [Elecraft] K3: NB and changing bands

2011-03-30 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Mike,

It doesn't shut off NB -- it stores NB status per band.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/30/2011 7:32 PM, Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
 Why does the radio shut off the nb when changing bands?  Is there a way
 to tell the radio not to do this?

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[Elecraft] KX1 s/n 2512 completed

2011-03-30 Thread Chuck Guenther
Fine business, Barry.

One thing I forgot to mention in my earlier comments on the KX1 construction
was with regard to the battery holder installation described on pp. 55-57
of the KX1 manual.

I used small pieces of duct tape to hold the wires in place on the 
bottom side
of the left battery holder.  This preserved my sanity during these 
rather awkward
construction steps.  Just make sure the tape does not cross the molded 
ridges
at the bottom of the holder.

73,
Chuck Guenther  NI0C




Barry, K8QI, wrote:

I'm presently building KX1 # 2520 currently in phase 2.Appreciate the
heads up on the 2 items you mention.I did read the step with the R32 and
was confused.   But thought when I got to that step, it would be clearer...
Glad your's is up and and working fine.Hope to join you on the air very
soon.



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Re: [Elecraft] Is DVR audio really getting equalized and compressed?

2011-03-30 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
It all depends upon how much you change the sound of the audio using the Eq
and Compression. If you don't make any obvious changes, your Monitor and
On-Air audio from the KDVR3 will sound the same. But, if you are using heavy
compression or significant equalization, you'll hear the impact of those
setting on the air, but not listening to your recorded message.

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

Like some other threads, I'm baffled by this one.  I installed the 
KDVR3.  I recorded some stuff from my Heil headset/boom mic I got from 
Elecraft [iC element I think, plugged into the back jack] without 
messing around with any of my audio settings.  I played them back in TX 
TEST mode, and they sounded like I sound to myself in the monitor audio, 
including audio levels.  I played them for a nearby buddy and talked to 
him.  He couldn't tell the difference.  In the WPX SSB last weekend, I 
got 3 unsolicited Great audio reports, one from 9K.

I have my TX EQ set as Jim, K9YC, has posted here several times, strong 
low cut and moderate high boost.  I'm nearly deaf, so I have my RX EQ 
for SSB set to try to approximate the shape of my digital hearing 
aids.   It doesn't have near the gain they do, but it does help.  I have 
recorded off-the air [same buddy], and played it back to him on the air, 
both with my normal TX EQ and with it flat.  He can definitely tell the 
difference.

As I said, I'm baffled by this thread.  My KDVR3 was literally plug and 
play.  I first used it in the ARRL SS for the static part of my 
exchange and CQ.  Several people said [unsolicited], nice to hear 
recorded audio that sounds like you do.  If there's a separate gain 
control for it in the latest firmware, that's OK, I'll just ignore it.

73,

Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA
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Re: [Elecraft] X1, X3 X5 grounding

2011-03-30 Thread Alexey Kats
Steve,

Most likely you will not see a difference (unless you spent like 10-30
seconds heating it up with your soldering iron). I don't know which Elecraft
kit you are talking about, but consider this.

Grounding crystals at the side will give you better decoupling under SOME
circumstances (like proper ground plane in the PCB, relatively close and
regular location of other crystals around, absence of other sources of
signal coupling nearby like another PCB or a signal trace with a strong
signal in it).  Otherwise you will get so marginal benefit that you will not
notice it considering the tolerances of all the parts.

Also, sometimes the clearances between different parts are too tight and you
simply might not have enough space to ground crystals at the top of the can
because the grounding wire would touch some other part otherwise.

On the other hand, grounding at the top of the crystal somewhat decreases
the chance of overheating said crystal while soldering. Not that it's a
problem - it is easily handled if one is proficient with soldering iron (and
picks the right tool for the job, i.e. the appropriate wattage/temperature
iron), but for inexperienced builder it is safer to ground at the top.

Dear readers, please, forgive me the lecturing tone - I felt like goofing
out tonight.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 4:51 PM, W6EOD w6...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I got a little ahead of myself while grounding crystals X1, 3 and 5.  I
 grounded to the sides.  Is this a problem.  Should I add wire to take the
 ground to the top of the can?

 Steve W6EOD


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 for dummies?

2011-03-30 Thread Alan Bloom
I'm not the web site guru, so take this with a grain of salt:

On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 13:28 -0500, Sam Morgan wrote:
 speaking of the P3 manual, a few comments
 
 Referencing to the ftp site ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/P3/
 It might be good to change the 2344 KB P3 Owner's man Rev A1.pdf  
 uploaded 7/29/2010 to the newest one found here:

I think the standard place to access the P3 Owner's manual is via the
Manuals and Downloads link on the main page which gets you to
http://www.elecraft.com/K2_Manual_Download_Page.htm#p3
The P3 Owner's Manual, Errata, and Programmer's Reference URLs you cite
below can all be accessed from there.

 (1.5 MB) P3 Panadapter Owner's Manual Rev A7  (November 20, 2010)
 http://www.elecraft.com/manual/P3%20Owner%27s%20man%20Rev%20A7.pdf
 
 and perhaps even include the:
 (64 KB) P3 Owner's Manual Errata (Rev A7-1, 01/24/2011)
 http://www.elecraft.com/manual/P3%20Owners%20Manual%20Errata%20A7-1.pdf
 
 and the:
 (17 KB) P3 Programmer's Reference (Rev A2, 11/24/2010)
 http://www.elecraft.com/manual/P3_Pgmrs_Ref_Rev_A2.pdf
 
 
 also I have a copy of How to Set Up and Interpret the P3 Display (Oct 11, 
 2010)
 saved to my computer, but I have no clue where I got it, or where anyone else 
 could get it? There may even be an updated version as there have been some 
 new 
 features included since Oct. 11, 2011.

I believe that is just a section in the current Owner's Manual.  BTW I
believe a new Owner's Manual that includes the Errata will be released
soon.  However I am already working on some new features that will make
it obsolete.  :=)

Alan N1AL



 
 
 the Web Page Changes page:
 http://www.elecraft.com/web_additions.htm
 doesn't seem to be able to keep up with the site's changes?
 
 I would  have sent the info to the webmaster address found on the contacts 
 page:
 http://www.elecraft.com/how_to_contact_elecraft.htm
 Web Page comments and corrections webmas...@elecraft.com
 
 but I have done that many times before
 and either I am being considered spam
 or there is a black hole at that address,
 but it has never produced any results before,
 but posts to this list do,
 so I figured I'd take the opportunity
 to piggy back this thread with the above comments
 
 please don't shoot the messenger,
 just trying to be informative,
 not meant as being mean or critical.
 
 P.S. yes I DO understand the webmaster is wearing many hats,
 and priority are priorities  that said :-/
 
 GB  73
 K5OAI
 Sam Morgan
 
 On 3/30/2011 10:09 AM, Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
  Has anyone written or thought about writing such a guide?
 
  The P3 can do lots of things.  The manual is pretty brief and doesn't
  really discuss why you would want to use this feature or that feature etc.
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 for dummies?

2011-03-30 Thread Gary Gregory
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On 31 March 2011 14:50, Alan Bloom n...@sonic.net wrote:

 I'm not the web site guru, so take this with a grain of salt:

 On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 13:28 -0500, Sam Morgan wrote:
  speaking of the P3 manual, a few comments
 
  Referencing to the ftp site ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/P3/
  It might be good to change the 2344 KB P3 Owner's man Rev A1.pdf
  uploaded 7/29/2010 to the newest one found here:

 I think the standard place to access the P3 Owner's manual is via the
 Manuals and Downloads link on the main page which gets you to
 http://www.elecraft.com/K2_Manual_Download_Page.htm#p3
 The P3 Owner's Manual, Errata, and Programmer's Reference URLs you cite
 below can all be accessed from there.

  (1.5 MB) P3 Panadapter Owner's Manual Rev A7  (November 20, 2010)
  http://www.elecraft.com/manual/P3%20Owner%27s%20man%20Rev%20A7.pdf
 
  and perhaps even include the:
  (64 KB) P3 Owner's Manual Errata (Rev A7-1, 01/24/2011)
  http://www.elecraft.com/manual/P3%20Owners%20Manual%20Errata%20A7-1.pdf
 
  and the:
  (17 KB) P3 Programmer's Reference (Rev A2, 11/24/2010)
  http://www.elecraft.com/manual/P3_Pgmrs_Ref_Rev_A2.pdf
 
  
  also I have a copy of How to Set Up and Interpret the P3 Display (Oct 11,
 2010)
  saved to my computer, but I have no clue where I got it, or where anyone
 else
  could get it? There may even be an updated version as there have been
 some new
  features included since Oct. 11, 2011.

 I believe that is just a section in the current Owner's Manual.  BTW I
 believe a new Owner's Manual that includes the Errata will be released
 soon.  However I am already working on some new features that will make
 it obsolete.  :=)

 Alan N1AL



  
 
  the Web Page Changes page:
  http://www.elecraft.com/web_additions.htm
  doesn't seem to be able to keep up with the site's changes?
 
  I would  have sent the info to the webmaster address found on the
 contacts page:
  http://www.elecraft.com/how_to_contact_elecraft.htm
  Web Page comments and corrections webmas...@elecraft.com
 
  but I have done that many times before
  and either I am being considered spam
  or there is a black hole at that address,
  but it has never produced any results before,
  but posts to this list do,
  so I figured I'd take the opportunity
  to piggy back this thread with the above comments
 
  please don't shoot the messenger,
  just trying to be informative,
  not meant as being mean or critical.
 
  P.S. yes I DO understand the webmaster is wearing many hats,
  and priority are priorities  that said :-/
 
  GB  73
  K5OAI
  Sam Morgan
 
  On 3/30/2011 10:09 AM, Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
   Has anyone written or thought about writing such a guide?
  
   The P3 can do lots of things.  The manual is pretty brief and doesn't
   really discuss why you would want to use this feature or that feature
 etc.
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