Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3 - introduction video now on the QRP ARCIwebsite
HI all, What a great FD and portable radio. How much might it cost, any ideas? I need to know so I can save for it. After I finish saving for the KPA500 purchase, I possibly will be buying a KX3. 73 ES CUL DE N3KHK == John R. Klim II ARRL LM, AMSAT LM 10-10: 68135 30MDG: 1820 QSL: LoTW, Bureau, Direct, eQSL as a courtesy -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Steve, G4GXL Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 1:40 AM To: QRP-L; QRP-L; Elecraft Reflector; gqrp club gqrp club Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3 - introduction video now on the QRP ARCIwebsite The recording of Wayne's quick Elecraft KX3 tour is now available on the QRP ARCI website - www.qrparci.org 73 Steve, G4GXL -- QRP ARCI Webmaster and Board Member - www.qrparci.org MyAPRS Map - www.g4gxl.com/aprs (Kings Lynn, Norkolk) Twitter - www.twitter.com/g4gxl Member: QRP ARCI, G-QRP, TAPR, ARRL, BATC, UK Microwave Group __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Installed K3EXREF
I was one of the beta testers and I tested the unit with the standard oscillator. I haven't run into any issues and found the fixed error across all bands to be quite nice. I never saw more than about 3Hz of error no matter the frequency on the VFO dial. Thats not to mean that if you have a standard oscillator that is at the outside of its bell that you may not have enough pull with the KEXTREF3 to pull things into place. Personally I never ran into this issue in my testing however I will probably also get the tighter tolerance rock for use when away from the 10Mhz reference. I find it really nice to know that the radio is on frequency... However the P3 still has to warm up before its frequency reference is accurate... ;) ~Brett (N7MG) On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Dan AE9K a...@pkts.net wrote: Ed, Thanks for the response. Let me clarify my question. I'm wondering if the KTCXO3 0.5 ppm oscillator can be omitted and still get great results with the K3EXREF and the standard 5 ppm oscillator. This is of interest because I intend to acquire the K3EXREF but do not have the KTCXO3 and would prefer not to buy it if it doesn't add any benefit. My logic: If the K3EXREF adjusts the TCXO (via REF CAL) every 4 seconds, then why not let it adjust the standard K3 TCXO instead of having it adjust the optional KTCXO3 oscillator? Even though the two oscillators differ by an order of magnitude in their error, does that error make a difference when the K3EXREF adjustments are every four seconds? ps - During your beta testing were you using the standard K3 5 ppm oscillator or the KTCXO3 0.5 ppm oscillator? I didn't find mention of that on your web site. Dan AE9K -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Installed-K3EXREF-tp6188288p6388532.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3 - introduction video now on the QRP ARCIwebsite
Thanks Steve and Wayne. Very nice video and a very nice new transceiver. 2011/5/21 John KLim n3khk...@verizon.net HI all, What a great FD and portable radio. How much might it cost, any ideas? I need to know so I can save for it. After I finish saving for the KPA500 purchase, I possibly will be buying a KX3. 73 ES CUL DE N3KHK == John R. Klim II ARRL LM, AMSAT LM 10-10: 68135 30MDG: 1820 QSL: LoTW, Bureau, Direct, eQSL as a courtesy -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Steve, G4GXL Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 1:40 AM To: QRP-L; QRP-L; Elecraft Reflector; gqrp club gqrp club Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3 - introduction video now on the QRP ARCIwebsite The recording of Wayne's quick Elecraft KX3 tour is now available on the QRP ARCI website - www.qrparci.org 73 Steve, G4GXL -- QRP ARCI Webmaster and Board Member - www.qrparci.org MyAPRS Map - www.g4gxl.com/aprs (Kings Lynn, Norkolk) Twitter - www.twitter.com/g4gxl Member: QRP ARCI, G-QRP, TAPR, ARRL, BATC, UK Microwave Group __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Best 73, Maarten PD2R __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Something *really* new at Dayton from Elecraft
Wayne, Eric and the rest of the Elecraft crew, congratulations on your great new transceiver. The new KX3 looks really neat and it has a couple of very nice features. The Dual watch is a feature I would really love to see on my K3 because I don't have a second receiver. Since there is a optional second receiver available for the K3 it will probably not be available for the K3. Now, I'm not a technical person but I'm just wandering if a feature like dual watch can be added to a K3 by a software update at all? ...A man can dream can't he? ;-) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Something *really* new at Dayton from Elecraft
Why does everyone assume the K3 will be obsoleted by hardware? The core of the K3 is a SDR which has continued to evolve with firmware upgrades. I would not count out the possibility of further improvement in the DSP sw. In time the basic processor will become obsolete. So maybe a replace cpu board could be done? Of course Elecraft might decide to abandon the K3 with an introduction of a K4, but they still make the K2 and KX1. What does that tell you? I think the Elecraft folks pride themselves in not abandoning their customers. 73, Ed - KL7UW BTW nicely done on the KX3! If it had 2m I could consider it replacing my FT-817, but it would have to be embedded inside the KX3. -- Message: 12 Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 13:00:13 -0500 From: Tony Estep estept...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Something *really* new at Dayton from Elecraft To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: banlktindy2+uj7e+hrjf1hebgsf5l-m...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Merv Schweigert k...@flex.com wrote: ...the KX3 will have a much improved DSP and newer better chip... Maybe there'll be a retrofit for the K3. Tony KT0NY 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-100w, 1296-testing*, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - New 100 watt amp
Although I enjoy building (obviously), it was cost that made my decision to buy the k3/10 vs. K3/100. Then I discovered the CCI amp and that sealed my decision. I will have a 300w amp for less than the cost of the KPA-100. It will not have auto-band changing and other niceties, just a brick amp. I have a source for LP filters to add for all HF bands. I have not given up my thoughts of selling these assembled (or in other words assembling them for others). I would add a nice enclosure, metering, and band selection control, so there would be some enhancement of the basic kit. I will not make any decision until I build one for myself and test it. 73, Ed -- Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 13:36:35 -0700 From: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - New 100 watt amp To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: 001201cc172d$9cf2b260$d6d81720$@biz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The CCI components are very attractive. Before the KPA100 was released, several K2 owners reported good results with them. While many Hams today find their passion in hitting the top of the contest or DX lists, there are still a lot of us home-brewers who are equally passionate about cobbling together a bunch of parts to create a rig we enjoy operating. And, in the case of an amplifier, we home-brewers don't have the gain limitations and FCC approval requirements those who manufacture amps or kits for sale must meet. I've never owned a factory-built rig (although the K3 is *awfully* close!), and I've never built a rig to save money. For me, buying a factory-assembled rig would be like buying a jig-saw puzzle fully assembled and framed - it would miss the point of being a Ham for me, Hi! Ron AC7AC 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-100w, 1296-testing*, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3
Don't understand the use of NIMH cells with the current crop of LI-PO cells massively out perform in size, weight and capacity. Thoughts? Maybe safety concerns? Jim __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3
On 2011-05-21 01:52 AM, Jim Balls wrote: Don't understand the use of NIMH cells with the current crop of LI-PO cells massively out perform in size, weight and capacity. Thoughts? Maybe safety concerns? Jim I favour Lithium Iron Phosphate cells because that chemistry seems to be immune to thermal runaway. (That's what I'm installing in my boat as a propulsion battery bank for an electric motor.) However, charging them properly (maintaining equal voltage in each of the cells of the battery bank) is, I think, more of a design hassle for a portable rig like the KX3 -- or whether suitably small Lithium Iron Phosphate cells are even available. I expect that the Ele-team has made a good choice given the present state of the art. Jim K7KK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Band selection IN/OUT
I operate approx 50% contest and 50% other, and am looking for an easier way of making the Band IN/OUT selections. Ideally what I would like is some Macro that enables me to toggle IN/OUT the WARC bands without having to do that every time from the configuration Menu. Maybe this already exists, and I have missed it. 73 Stewart G3RXQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3
From the 5 min Dayton presentation I did not quite understand whether the antenna tuner option is internal or external. Can somebody enlighten me please, 73, Igor UA9CDC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3
The KX3 will have an internal ATU option. The external 100W amp will have it's own, optional bolt-on ATU Bruce, N1RX From the 5 min Dayton presentation I did not quite understand whether the antenna tuner option is internal or external. Can somebody enlighten me please, 73, Igor UA9CDC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft KX3 RX - General Coverage or Ham Band Only?
Is the receiver general coverage or ham band only? Jack K8ZOA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Short Presentation on the KX3 by Wayne
Hi Guys Not sure if you have seen this - copied link from the GQRP list. The recording of Wayne's quick Elecraft KX3 tour is now available on the QRP ARCI website - www.qrparci.org 73 Ray G3XLG - Ray G3XLG -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Short-Presentation-on-the-KX3-by-Wayne-tp6389155p6389155.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 External Key ...
Guy's.. Anyone got any inside information on wether we will be able to buy the small Iambic Key we have seen on the recent K3 videos - Seperatley from the radio itself when the launch is finally underway ? Not sure if that particular key would work with other rigs etc, but if it could be adapted, I for one would be interested in a purchase.. So anyone out there got solid answers to the above questions ? 73's Andy GM0NWI andy.gm0n...@btinternet.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3
Safety, handling, cost, and flexibility during emergencies all favor AA cells Also, we all have stashes of NiMH cells already :) Other battery types can be accommodated, but 8 AAs plus internal NiMH charger is what we'll offer initially. Of course there's also a 2.1-mm jack for an external supply/battery. 73, Wayne N6KR http://www.elecraft.com On May 21, 2011, at 4:52 AM, Jim Balls makid...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Don't understand the use of NIMH cells with the current crop of LI-PO cells massively out perform in size, weight and capacity. Thoughts? Maybe safety concerns? Jim __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3 RX - General Coverage or Ham Band Only?
General. W http://www.elecraft.com On May 21, 2011, at 6:29 AM, Jack Smith jack.sm...@cliftonlaboratories.com wrote: Is the receiver general coverage or ham band only? Jack K8ZOA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3 RX - General Coverage or Ham Band Only?
There is a broadcast band option on the preliminary info page. Ed - W0YK --Original Message-- From: Jack Smith Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3 RX - General Coverage or Ham Band Only? Sent: May 21, 2011 06:29 Is the receiver general coverage or ham band only? Jack K8ZOA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Sent from my BlackBerry __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Something *really* new at Dayton from Elecraft
The KX3's DSP was selected primarily for its low power consumption. The use of this DSP in the KX3 has no effect on K3 DSP firmware development, which is ongoing. Just ask Lyle :) Wayne N6KR http://www.elecraft.com On May 21, 2011, at 4:07 AM, Edward R. Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote: Why does everyone assume the K3 will be obsoleted by hardware? The core of the K3 is a SDR which has continued to evolve with firmware upgrades. I would not count out the possibility of further improvement in the DSP sw. In time the basic processor will become obsolete. So maybe a replace cpu board could be done? Of course Elecraft might decide to abandon the K3 with an introduction of a K4, but they still make the K2 and KX1. What does that tell you? I think the Elecraft folks pride themselves in not abandoning their customers. 73, Ed - KL7UW BTW nicely done on the KX3! If it had 2m I could consider it replacing my FT-817, but it would have to be embedded inside the KX3. -- Message: 12 Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 13:00:13 -0500 From: Tony Estep estept...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Something *really* new at Dayton from Elecraft To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: banlktindy2+uj7e+hrjf1hebgsf5l-m...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Merv Schweigert k...@flex.com wrote: ...the KX3 will have a much improved DSP and newer better chip... Maybe there'll be a retrofit for the K3. Tony KT0NY 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-100w, 1296-testing*, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 BND MAP In/Out and K144XV
I have faced to strange behavior of my K3 K144XV module. I have XVTR1 and XVTR2 defined as internal K144XV (I need two 144/146 bands for my transvertors) As I want to lock K3 for VHF/UHF contest as 144MHz radio only I set all HF bands as out (item BND MAP Out for all HF bands) and left only two XVTR bands as In. I suppose to see only changing of 144MHz bands by Band Up/Down buttons. But... Let say I am on 144.300 (XVTR1) - BandUp - 146.125 (XVTR2) - Band Up - 28.445MHz (!!!) - BandUp - 144.300 ...etc with BandDown is cycling 144.300 - 3.746 (!!!) - 146.125 - 144.300 - 3.746 etc.. The same if I have only one XVTR active - jump to 28MHz/3.7MHz by BandUp/Down. All the time 3.5 and 28 bands are marked as Out in BND MAP settings. Anyone else can try this? Have I some bad settings or this is some problem in firmware? Using FW 4.36 in K3 and 1.04 in K144XV. This is not so serious but not working as I suppose to work - so asking... 73! lexa, ok1dst K3/100 #727 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Installed K3EXREF
Igor and Brett, Thanks, you've answered my questions. Regarding the application, I occasionally participate in FMT exercises/competitions and have always done pretty well (within 75 milliHertz) with nothing but on-air references like WWV, lots of FFT averaging, and linear interpolation of VFO error. Since the FMT pursuit is occasional, I don't want to invest too much to get the desired result since I still have to obtain a Trimble Thunderbolt or similar GPSDO 10 MHz reference. Thanks again. Dan AE9K -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Installed-K3EXREF-tp6188288p6389309.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3 RX - General Coverage or Ham Band Only?
and this magical mystery preliminary info page can be seen where? GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 5/21/2011 6:19 AM, Ed Muns wrote: There is a broadcast band option on the preliminary info page. Ed - W0YK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3 - introduction video now on the QRP ARCI website
* On 2011 21 May 00:40 -0500, Steve, G4GXL wrote: The recording of Wayne's quick Elecraft KX3 tour is now available on the QRP ARCI website - www.qrparci.org Thanks, Steve and Wayne. Will the PC control command set be similar to the K3? I presume the manuals will be available a short time before product release. I'd like to be able to provide Hamlib support a rig on its release for a change. ;-) 73, de Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band selection IN/OUT
Don't know about a macro, but if you're using a contest logging program, you can enter a freq via software to change bands quickly. Barry W2UP -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Band-selection-IN-OUT-tp6389104p6389330.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3
I also raised an eyebrow at the NIMH choice. I have abandoned them here because of their inferior self-discharge characteristics. Unless you use them often, they are usually dead when you need them. One of the key parameters I look at when purchasing battery powered electronics or tools is the battery technology. I no longer buy NIMH, but only one of the more recent Li Ion chemistries, which hold their charge quite well over time. 73 Craig AC0DS Don't understand the use of NIMH cells with the current crop of LI-PO cells massively out perform in size, weight and capacity. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3 RX - General Coverage or Ham Band Only?
Sam, Look here. http://twitpic.com/photos/ke9v there are some photos of the prelim sheet. View original size for best resolution. Bruce, N1RX and this magical mystery preliminary info page can be seen where? GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 BND MAP In/Out and K144XV
Nope...it's a feature...Grin I found this anomaly sometime ago and I asked if this could be corrected. The answer was IF some more folks ask we can look at doing this. Please make your interest known to Wayne...N6KR 73's GARY On 21 May 2011 21:50, Alexandr Kobranov kobra...@amoscz.cz wrote: I have faced to strange behavior of my K3 K144XV module. I have XVTR1 and XVTR2 defined as internal K144XV (I need two 144/146 bands for my transvertors) As I want to lock K3 for VHF/UHF contest as 144MHz radio only I set all HF bands as out (item BND MAP Out for all HF bands) and left only two XVTR bands as In. I suppose to see only changing of 144MHz bands by Band Up/Down buttons. But... Let say I am on 144.300 (XVTR1) - BandUp - 146.125 (XVTR2) - Band Up - 28.445MHz (!!!) - BandUp - 144.300 ...etc with BandDown is cycling 144.300 - 3.746 (!!!) - 146.125 - 144.300 - 3.746 etc.. The same if I have only one XVTR active - jump to 28MHz/3.7MHz by BandUp/Down. All the time 3.5 and 28 bands are marked as Out in BND MAP settings. Anyone else can try this? Have I some bad settings or this is some problem in firmware? Using FW 4.36 in K3 and 1.04 in K144XV. This is not so serious but not working as I suppose to work - so asking... 73! lexa, ok1dst K3/100 #727 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile Elecraft Equipment K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 Living the dream!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3 - introduction video now on the QRP
Nate, per Wayne's comments and the preliminary data sheet, the KX3 command set will emulate the K3. I expect you will have no trouble supporting it in hamlib. Bruce, N1RX Will the PC control command set be similar to the K3? I presume the manuals will be available a short time before product release. I'd like to be able to provide Hamlib support a rig on its release for a change. ;-) 73, de Nate __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Sorry, YouTube video removed
I am not a lawyer, and I don't even play one on TV... As I understand it, a copyright you do not vigorously defend can become indefensible as a result. Imagine someone using your video inappropriately (or even with ill intent) and you having no way to put a stop to it because you let prior, innocent violations of copyright slide. Wayne Conrad (bathing in Morse for that fresh, clean feeling) On 05/20/2011 10:03 PM, Greg wrote: That's pretty selfish of the G... Perhaps he thinks he is going to receive an Emmy for his production work?! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] DSP
I note that Wayne makes a point of the fact that the DSP in the KX3 is 32-bit, floating point. This buzzphrase is also used by other manufacturers to tout their DSPs, but I can't find any similar description of the DSP hardware in the K3. To raise again a point that was mentioned yesterday: if there's a potential for getting more DSP horsepower in the K3, I'm sure that many K3 owners would happily pay for a retrofit. Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] DSP
From the datasheet for the DSP chip used in the K3: The TMS320VC33 DSP is a 32-bit, floating-point processor manufactured in 0.18-Tm four-level-metal CMOS (TImeline) technology. The TMS320VC33 is part of the TMS320C3x generation of DSPs from Texas Instruments. The K3's DSP -is- 32 bit floating point. As Wayne has said, the K3 ain't dead yet, and will continue to be developed. Notice the decreasing hair in recent pics of Lyle. 8-) Bruce, N1RX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 - New 100 watt amp
Anyone heard about pricing on the new amp? Geo/W2BPI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] test
testing blocked posts Mike __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] DSP
Thanks, Bruce. I didn't look hard enuff. Tony KT0NY On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Bruce Beford bruce.bef...@myfairpoint.netwrote: From the datasheet for the DSP chip used in the K3: The TMS320VC33 DSP... __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 pics
Wow what a rig! Need one for the mobile! George On May 20, 2011, at 10:29 PM, Ray Sills raysil...@verizon.net wrote: That little carry-case that held the KX3 was pretty nifty, too. Great presentation. What a wonderful radio! 73 de Ray K2ULR On May 20, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: In the works. W http://www.elecraft.com On May 20, 2011, at 10:18 PM, drewko drew...@verizon.net wrote: I would be a little worried about damaging in transit the knobs or display on such a portable little rig. A snap-on or removable hinged hardshell front panel cover might be useful. (Actually, wouldn't mind having same for my K3...) 73, Drew AF2Z On Fri, 20 May 2011 15:24:42 -0400, you wrote: Looks nice; but I would have expected a little lower profile knobs. But, I am more interested in the KX3P100 with ATU... 73, Henry - K4TMC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 Baseband filter?
Wayne made a comment during the video about the optional roofing filter being baseband instead of a crystal filter. Can someone explain what that means? Maybe I missed something. Steve N4LQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3 - introduction video now on the QRP ARCI website
Hmmm, binaural pitch mapping. When will the K3 get this? My first impression was that's amazing, but why would I want one? After seeing this, I'm starting to think differently. And I'm not any less amazed. On 5/20/2011 10:39 PM, Steve, G4GXL wrote: The recording of Wayne's quick Elecraft KX3 tour is now available on the QRP ARCI website - www.qrparci.org 73 Steve, G4GXL -- -- Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] DSP
Nice overview of the chip at http://focus.ti.com/lit/an/spra526/spra526.pdf It's not a NR chip. It's a CPU with embedded memory and gizmos designed with digital signal processing in mind. You could use it in a model airplane if you wanted to, or construct a mini PC out of it. So it allows inclusion of appropriate K3 firmware development in a tiny box. The big improvement that is pertinent to a mini rig in the new chip appears to be CMOS and lower power, and more so because the processor is touted at lower power at higher speeds. Run it at less than WFO and the power draw is even less. I remember that there was a serious current addition (from viewpoint of battery operation) when they added DSP to the K2. If one was going to make a serious quantum jump in DSP with higher-end processing than you see in a K3, most certainly a jump in component price-point would be involved. A QRP miniature, with the intense price competition, is NOT the place to start. What you are seeing in the KX3, with that 32 bit processor, is prior high end stuff coming down enough in cost and battery drain to put all of the K3's high end processing, and fairly mature DSP program code, in a mini. That's the opposite of what Tony seemed to be worried about in earlier posts. AND, all of this seems to suggest that a K4 is going to be SMALLER than a K3, not larger. Bring it on. 73, Guy. On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Bruce Beford bruce.bef...@myfairpoint.net wrote: From the datasheet for the DSP chip used in the K3: The TMS320VC33 DSP is a 32-bit, floating-point processor manufactured in 0.18-Tm four-level-metal CMOS (TImeline) technology. The TMS320VC33 is part of the TMS320C3x generation of DSPs from Texas Instruments. The K3's DSP -is- 32 bit floating point. As Wayne has said, the K3 ain't dead yet, and will continue to be developed. Notice the decreasing hair in recent pics of Lyle. 8-) Bruce, N1RX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Baseband filter?
Baseband refers to the fact that the QSD down-converts the RF to IQ streams at directly near-audio range frequencies. The ADC converts this to digital, and the DSP then does the demodulation. From the description, the IF frequencies are in the 10 KHz range. So, the baseband roofing filter will be a selectable active audio filter operating in this range, prior to the ADC. This will prevent excessive out of band energy from reaching the ADC. Bruce, N1RX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Baseband filter?
Thank you Bruce, I was also puzzled by that part of the presentation. Rick K6LE On 5/21/2011, at 8:01 , Bruce Beford wrote: Baseband refers to the fact that the QSD down-converts the RF to IQ streams at directly near-audio range frequencies. The ADC converts this to digital, and the DSP then does the demodulation. From the description, the IF frequencies are in the 10 KHz range. So, the baseband roofing filter will be a selectable active audio filter operating in this range, prior to the ADC. This will prevent excessive out of band energy from reaching the ADC. Bruce, N1RX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] DSP
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.netwrote: That's the opposite of what Tony seemed to be worried about... Yeah, my interest is just in having the most powerful DSP possible, whatever the current draw and/or cost. I have modest antennas; there's a lot of noise in the ether here; and the propagation from here to the countries I still need is such that the signals, if and when there are signals, are extremely weak and covered up by buzzing, humming, grinding racket. I realize that there's a Shannon limit to what a DSP can do, but I'm always hoping for more and more magic. Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3 - Wayne's Presentation
http://www.qrparci.org/ Wayne's presentation! Terry, W0FM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3 - introduction video now on the QRP ARCI website
Same command set for both. W http://www.elecraft.com On May 21, 2011, at 8:28 AM, Nate Bargmann n...@n0nb.us wrote: * On 2011 21 May 00:40 -0500, Steve, G4GXL wrote: The recording of Wayne's quick Elecraft KX3 tour is now available on the QRP ARCI website - www.qrparci.org Thanks, Steve and Wayne. Will the PC control command set be similar to the K3? I presume the manuals will be available a short time before product release. I'd like to be able to provide Hamlib support a rig on its release for a change. ;-) 73, de Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Baseband filter?
According to Wayne, Rx performance will be similar to that of the Flex-3000. With the KX3's QSD down-convert architecture, my guess is that all performance parameters will be superb, with BDR specs probably well behind the K3. I'm basing my opinion only on the little information available. Who knows what other magic they developed to close the gap in performance. It's hard to believe that such performance is attainable in a low-current design. Take a look at Dan Tayloe's Norcal 2030. It's nearly a miracle that he attained such high performance in a quadrature detector design and yet the Rx current is less than 12 mA. The KX3 effectively combines the best performance and portability attributes of the Flex-3000 and Flex-1500 into a highly modular package. Once available, I can't imagine anything better for a DXpedition. For contesting, FD , etc., the K3 would still surpass it. I really like the KX3 panel design. I'm still hoping that the next major Elecraft transceiver continues with modular architecture to allow for a choice in remote control panels between portable and base station sizes. There's no longer a need to bind the hardware to the control surface. Paul, W9AC Original Message - From: Rick Prather k6limae...@gmail.com To: Bruce Beford bruce.bef...@myfairpoint.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Baseband filter? Thank you Bruce, I was also puzzled by that part of the presentation. Rick K6LE On 5/21/2011, at 8:01 , Bruce Beford wrote: Baseband refers to the fact that the QSD down-converts the RF to IQ streams at directly near-audio range frequencies. The ADC converts this to digital, and the DSP then does the demodulation. From the description, the IF frequencies are in the 10 KHz range. So, the baseband roofing filter will be a selectable active audio filter operating in this range, prior to the ADC. This will prevent excessive out of band energy from reaching the ADC. Bruce, N1RX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3 RX - General Coverage or Ham Band Only?
where is this info page? El 21/05/11 13:19, Ed Muns escribió: There is a broadcast band option on the preliminary info page. Ed - W0YK --Original Message-- From: Jack Smith Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3 RX - General Coverage or Ham Band Only? Sent: May 21, 2011 06:29 Is the receiver general coverage or ham band only? Jack K8ZOA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Sent from my BlackBerry __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 Preliminary data sheet
A few still pics, and hi-rez copies of the front/back of the preliminary data sheet here: http://twitpic.com/photos/ke9v Select a pic, then view full size for maximum detail. Bruce, N1RX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3
Wow! A while back when we were throwing out ideas for an Elecraft wish list, I expressed a desire for a KX1 that covered 15 and 10 meters. I sure got that and more! I’m tempted to ask for a 100 MPG hover craft and see what happens! My only question now is how do I pre-order one of these. I want my KX3! Roy AB7CE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Sorry, YouTube video removed
A 10-minute+ video is available on the ARCI website of Wayne's KX3 demo. Maybe that's the reason that it was asked that it be taken down. I don't know the legalities involved, or who would have ownership of such a presentation. If anyone, I would think that it would be Elecraft to make that call. Unless there's some stipulation regarding photos/video on the property, I'd think that anything would be fair game. But, since ARCI was so quick to post the demo on their website, I think we can safely assume that there was no conspiracy theory or profit motive on the part of ARCI. Might be nice for someone to make an official statement about this. 72/73 de Jim - AD6CW On 5/21/2011 6:35 AM, Wayne Conrad wrote: I am not a lawyer, and I don't even play one on TV... As I understand it, a copyright you do not vigorously defend can become indefensible as a result. Imagine someone using your video inappropriately (or even with ill intent) and you having no way to put a stop to it because you let prior, innocent violations of copyright slide. Wayne Conrad (bathing in Morse for that fresh, clean feeling) On 05/20/2011 10:03 PM, Greg wrote: That's pretty selfish of the G... Perhaps he thinks he is going to receive an Emmy for his production work?! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3 RX - General Coverage or Ham Band Only?
I'm not all that interested in QRP, but a high performance, battery operable, general coverage receiver is something I would find very useful, so expect an order as soon as the queue establishes. Only thing I see missing from the receiver side is coverage below 500 KHz - while this can always be supplied by an up-converter, it would be nice to have integrated into the package, and some performance degradation could be accepted in this frequency range. Jack K8ZOA On 5/21/2011 7:15 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: General. W http://www.elecraft.com On May 21, 2011, at 6:29 AM, Jack Smithjack.sm...@cliftonlaboratories.com wrote: Is the receiver general coverage or ham band only? Jack K8ZOA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3 RX - General Coverage or Ham Band Only?
While fleshing out the KX3's general coverage receive capabilities, it will be helpful if synchronous AM detection is implemented, as in the K3. Since many of the announced features seem to be a port of the K3 DSP firmware, I'm hoping this will be included. Bruce, N1RX I'm not all that interested in QRP, but a high performance, battery operable, general coverage receiver is something I would find very useful, so expect an order as soon as the queue establishes. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB net announcement
The weekly Elecraft SSB net will meet tomorrow (5/22/11) at 1800Z on 14.3035 MHz +/- QRM. I will be net control from Oregon, and we'll try relays to pull in the stations that I can't hear. See you there. 73, Phil, NS7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Subject: Re: Installed K3EXREF
Dan, Sorry for delay in reply, I get the Elecraft reflector by digest. I believe it will work with the standard TCXO but there was a note from Elecraft recommending that the TCXO-3 be installed for use with the K3EXREF. Perhaps that e-mail can be retrieved from the digest, Napple, etc. I ordered the TCXO-3 with my K3 so all testing was done with it installed. The K3EXREF corrects the TCXO error periodically but The TCXO drift is not affected in between times so probably one would experience more drift with the TCXO vs the TCXO-3. I suppose this could cause (?) a more abrupt freq. shift when the EXREF performs the correction. This is really a question to ask the Elecraft guys. My experience with the TCXO-3 + K3EXREF is the drift is minimal and often does not amount to even 1-Hz between times the K3EXREF samples the freq. (so I do not see a change in the TCXO-3 that often - after the initial 20-30 minutes warm-up). During warm up the K3EXREF generates repeated corrections to the TCXO-3 frequency stabilizing at about 49.380.070. This is supposedly due in part to xtal aging in my TCXO-3 (now over a year old). But checking actual radio frequency accuracy (say on 14-MHz) during the warm-up period the frequency error is never more than 2-Hz with my frequency counter (locked to a rubidium). With the K3EXREF installed you can monitor the offset on CONFIG: REF*CAL (the asterisk blinks when the EXREF is running). Without the K3EXREF CONFIG: REF CAL permits entry of a fixed offset (useful for running a transverter that may not be exact in frequency) or for those that like to tweak such things ;-) The manual offset feature is defeated when running the K3EXREF. 73, Ed - KL7uW -- Message: 8 Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 19:47:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan AE9K a...@pkts.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Installed K3EXREF To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: 1305946053762-6388532.p...@n2.nabble.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ed, Thanks for the response. Let me clarify my question. I'm wondering if the KTCXO3 0.5 ppm oscillator can be omitted and still get great results with the K3EXREF and the standard 5 ppm oscillator. This is of interest because I intend to acquire the K3EXREF but do not have the KTCXO3 and would prefer not to buy it if it doesn't add any benefit. My logic: If the K3EXREF adjusts the TCXO (via REF CAL) every 4 seconds, then why not let it adjust the standard K3 TCXO instead of having it adjust the optional KTCXO3 oscillator? Even though the two oscillators differ by an order of magnitude in their error, does that error make a difference when the K3EXREF adjustments are every four seconds? ps - During your beta testing were you using the standard K3 5 ppm oscillator or the KTCXO3 0.5 ppm oscillator? I didn't find mention of that on your web site. Dan AE9K 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-100w, 1296-testing*, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 RX IQ output question
Wayne, I know you don't have anything to do but answer questions... ;-) I didn't get a chance to ask this last night during the KX3 webcast: What will be the usable bandwidth of the RX IQ output? Since the dual watch capability is described as +/- 10 KHz, I am wondering if this is the total BW at this output jack. Also, will this be tapped off before the optional roofing filter module? Thanks in advance, Bruce, N1RX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] New KX3 hidden feature set
The really nice thing the new KX3 does: It makes the elecraft email list just a little more portable radio centric. de NE7LS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Something *really* new at Dayton from Elecraft
Doesn't your speculation presume that all the noise reduction functionality IS IN HARDWARE? Last I looked at the K3 functionality, all the NR is in PROGRAM CODE, not burned into hardware chips. Nope not at all Guy, one thing if you program any at all you will find is you cannot speed up a chip or increase its capability with programming. If your out of speed and memory there is nothing in programming you can do about it, time to upgrade to a newer faster chip, so its a handshake between programming and the hardwares capability. Go read the schematic. And since Wayne has been good about keeping up K3 firmware, why would he code something new in the KX3 and not use the code and/or concept in the K3 to extend the product life? I smell analog thinking. No analog thinking at all, your are wrong. why would they do in a KX3 what cannot be updgraded to a K3? Because a K4 is on the line for one thing, and another could be to keep the company going, your going to have to buy a new radio every few years if you want E to continue. Every product has to have a limit and life end. They will continue to upgrade the K3 as much as possible I am sure and support it, but newer and better has to come along and sales have to continue. And better cheaper chips come along, why not use them? Whats wrong with that? Possibly if it does do something because more processing power is available, that's progress in the electronics industry, not some evil Elecraft conspiracy. AND retrofitting a newer CPU in existing equipment is extremely expensive. Upgraded circuit board, TWO paths of firmware development instead of one, etc, etc. You hit the nail on the head, expensive to upgrade, that will be the limiting factor with continued K3 updgrades, thats why I referred to a K4 and was asking if the newer chips etc were not a preview of things to come in another radio. Who said Elecraft was Evil?? you sure surmise a lot of things that are not said at all, I have never had a better company to deal with, I have no gripes at all. I am not anxious to see my K3 go to the second best pile I guess, if the K4 comes along and is better than my K3 that means I must buy another radio or settle for second best. If your a person who finally bit the bullet and bought a new K3 yesterday, and today they announcement comes out for a much improved K4, are you a happy camper?? But thats life. There are small bugs in the K3 I would like to see improved but afraid some are in hardware (not analog) that cannot be addressed at a cost that is bearable, the software ones can be addressed to some extent, if the hardware is capable of the speed and memory requirements. I am sure they will do what is possible for the money involved to keep the K3 going and up to date. The K3 is reaching the edge of the hardwares capability in a couple areas and I think its time for a K4 with increased speed in the chips and horsepower to overcome some of these problems. Be careful when you compare Wayne to Yakencom. He REALLY does not deserve that. Oh come on Guy, are you the overseer of Elecraft? the moderator of the list? are you going to send a couple of hit men from the east coast out here to find me? Dont threaten me with be careful, if anything I said offended Wayne he is certainly grown up and can defend himself, I have nothing but respect for him and the company, if not I would not own their product, go sit down and have another glass of Kool Aide and Kool off. Dont send any hit men out here please, we dont need any more shark bait, thats where they would end up. 73 Merv 73, Guy. On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Merv Schweigertk...@flex.com wrote: And another subject, no one has commented on the thread that was going on about improving the DSP NR etc for the K3, and the fact that the KX3 will have a much improved DSP and newer better chip?? Leaves the K3 owners kinda out to dry dont it? Kinda the stuff that we always criticize YeaComWood for doing when a new model came out and the old one could not be updated? Or is a K4 around? Just asking, Merv K9FD/KH6 Just not enough power. --- On Thu, 5/19/11, Phil Hystadphys...@mac.comwrote: From: Phil Hystadphys...@mac.com Wes, Add a KPA500 to your setup. It gives you all you ask for: easier (aka quicker) band switching, very simple display (interpret as nicer), FET finals, and definitely enough weight. 73, phil, K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Sorry, YouTube video removed
No; G4GXL asked me to take it down simply because it wasn't yours to copy (and I assume because he planned to post it later) -- despite my good intentions aimed at letting those who missed the live stream be able to see it. While I'm disappointed in his unwillingness to let it slide for the good of Elecraft and the ham community, I'm sure he's disappointed in the fact that I recorded his recording without asking him first. Bottom line: It's his work, so I believe he gets to make the call. No grudges here, I'm grateful to him for helping to make it happen, and for Wayne to take the time to give the overview. His recording is certainly better quality than mine :) We're approaching off-topic so many best to end the thread. 73, --Andrew, NV1B On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Jim Lowman jmlow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: A 10-minute+ video is available on the ARCI website of Wayne's KX3 demo. Maybe that's the reason that it was asked that it be taken down. I don't know the legalities involved, or who would have ownership of such a presentation. If anyone, I would think that it would be Elecraft to make that call. Unless there's some stipulation regarding photos/video on the property, I'd think that anything would be fair game. But, since ARCI was so quick to post the demo on their website, I think we can safely assume that there was no conspiracy theory or profit motive on the part of ARCI. Might be nice for someone to make an official statement about this. 72/73 de Jim - AD6CW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - New 100 watt amp
Seems it would not be difficult to make a auto band switching amp from that, relays for each band to swtich the LP filters driven by the K3 band outputs, at that power level relays are cheap, like the ones used in the AD5X ALS-600 QSK conversion. cheap and handle the power easily. Make up a circuit board and an enclosure for the amp, really nice set up. Another nice thing is that you can drive it with almost no power, not being limited by FCC regs (unless you sell them built) you can even drive something like a 4 MRF-150 amp with less than 10 watts to 600 output. 73 Merv Although I enjoy building (obviously), it was cost that made my decision to buy the k3/10 vs. K3/100. Then I discovered the CCI amp and that sealed my decision. I will have a 300w amp for less than the cost of the KPA-100. It will not have auto-band changing and other niceties, just a brick amp. I have a source for LP filters to add for all HF bands. I have not given up my thoughts of selling these assembled (or in other words assembling them for others). I would add a nice enclosure, metering, and band selection control, so there would be some enhancement of the basic kit. I will not make any decision until I build one for myself and test it. 73, Ed -- Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 13:36:35 -0700 From: Ron D'Eau Clairer...@cobi.biz Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - New 100 watt amp To:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID:001201cc172d$9cf2b260$d6d81720$@biz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The CCI components are very attractive. Before the KPA100 was released, several K2 owners reported good results with them. While many Hams today find their passion in hitting the top of the contest or DX lists, there are still a lot of us home-brewers who are equally passionate about cobbling together a bunch of parts to create a rig we enjoy operating. And, in the case of an amplifier, we home-brewers don't have the gain limitations and FCC approval requirements those who manufacture amps or kits for sale must meet. I've never owned a factory-built rig (although the K3 is *awfully* close!), and I've never built a rig to save money. For me, buying a factory-assembled rig would be like buying a jig-saw puzzle fully assembled and framed - it would miss the point of being a Ham for me, Hi! Ron AC7AC 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-100w, 1296-testing*, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Something *really* new at Dayton from Elecraft
Thanks Wayne, cleared that up fast, I read into the release info more than what was there, sorry if I caused any confusion on that end. Sure stirred up the die hards at least. 73 Merv The KX3's DSP was selected primarily for its low power consumption. The use of this DSP in the KX3 has no effect on K3 DSP firmware development, which is ongoing. Just ask Lyle :) Wayne N6KR http://www.elecraft.com On May 21, 2011, at 4:07 AM, Edward R. Colekl...@acsalaska.net wrote: Why does everyone assume the K3 will be obsoleted by hardware? The core of the K3 is a SDR which has continued to evolve with firmware upgrades. I would not count out the possibility of further improvement in the DSP sw. In time the basic processor will become obsolete. So maybe a replace cpu board could be done? Of course Elecraft might decide to abandon the K3 with an introduction of a K4, but they still make the K2 and KX1. What does that tell you? I think the Elecraft folks pride themselves in not abandoning their customers. 73, Ed - KL7UW BTW nicely done on the KX3! If it had 2m I could consider it replacing my FT-817, but it would have to be embedded inside the KX3. -- Message: 12 Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 13:00:13 -0500 From: Tony Estepestept...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Something *really* new at Dayton from Elecraft To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID:banlktindy2+uj7e+hrjf1hebgsf5l-m...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Merv Schweigertk...@flex.com wrote: ...the KX3 will have a much improved DSP and newer better chip... Maybe there'll be a retrofit for the K3. Tony KT0NY 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-100w, 1296-testing*, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3: Direct keyboard interface?
From the KX3 data sheet: Built-in PSK/TTY decode/encode allows data mode operation without a PC; transmit in data modes using CW keyer paddle Was a direct keyboard interface considered for the KX3? Could serve data modes (including QRQ CW) well, but could be more power consumption and feature creep. USB interfaces seem compact and easy on power, but I realize there's more to it than that. --Andrew, NV1B __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 85, Issue 34
I was also involved in the beta test. I was/am using the K3 as supplied 5ppm oscillator and a rubidium 10MHz source and I managed to maintain 2Hz accuracy at 50.26MHz (40ppB)which is fine for the VHF/microwave weak signal modes I needed it for. Dave ww2r Message: 8 Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 19:47:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan AE9K a...@pkts.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Installed K3EXREF To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: 1305946053762-6388532.p...@n2.nabble.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ed, Thanks for the response. Let me clarify my question. I'm wondering if the KTCXO3 0.5 ppm oscillator can be omitted and still get great results with the K3EXREF and the standard 5 ppm oscillator. This is of interest because I intend to acquire the K3EXREF but do not have the KTCXO3 and would prefer not to buy it if it doesn't add any benefit. My logic: If the K3EXREF adjusts the TCXO (via REF CAL) every 4 seconds, then why not let it adjust the standard K3 TCXO instead of having it adjust the optional KTCXO3 oscillator? Even though the two oscillators differ by an order of magnitude in their error, does that error make a difference when the K3EXREF adjustments are every four seconds? ps - During your beta testing were you using the standard K3 5 ppm oscillator or the KTCXO3 0.5 ppm oscillator? I didn't find mention of that on your web site. Dan AE9K __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft KX3 User Group
If you are interested in the KX3, KX3 specific discussions will be found at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/KX3/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Something *really* new at Dayton from Elecraft
Hi Wayne, All I can say is WOW ! This is what happens when people who love what they do do what they love More Companies need to figure this out again. You and your company are building the radios that we all wish we could build ourselves. I personally will continue building my own versions of what you guys are doing just for the educational value. By experimenting with my own projects and using yours as a benchmark it really allows me to appreciate what really goes into a really great product. It also makes me realize that no one person has all the skills necessary to make what is really a functional work of art such as what you and your Company produce. So even though I build some of my own stuff, I will continue working extra hours so that I can purchase your incredible products ! Congratulations to You, Eric, Lyle and all the rest of your hard working staff members. It really takes a great team to do what you guys have managed to accomplish. I sense another incredibly successful product launch coming our way yet once again. And I am proud to be here witnessing history unfold. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Something-really-new-at-Dayton-from-Elecraft-tp6380523p6389904.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 RX IQ output question
Hi, I am hoping for much more than +/-10kHz. High end sound cards sample at up to 192ks/s and are not that expensive. I'd love to run a panadapter with more than 100kHz total bandwidth. I would also love to see a digital audio stream from the KX3 so I could eliminate the sound card altogether. Obviously that's available somewhere inside the DSP but maybe it's hoping too much that it be formatted into something standard and made available externally. If the $700 price guesstimate I've seen holds and the performance on general coverage is decent, I might be interested in one to replace my web-enabled IC-718: http://ab2tc.getmyip.com:8000/ AB2TC - Knut Bruce Beford-2 wrote: Wayne, I know you don't have anything to do but answer questions... ;-) I didn't get a chance to ask this last night during the KX3 webcast: What will be the usable bandwidth of the RX IQ output? Since the dual watch capability is described as +/- 10 KHz, I am wondering if this is the total BW at this output jack. Also, will this be tapped off before the optional roofing filter module? Thanks in advance, Bruce, N1RX snip -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-RX-IQ-output-question-tp6389769p6390080.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] DSP
And I'd not be at all surprised to see such upgrades available at some future time if the improvement is significant in the K3 application and there is sufficient demand. But that may not be the case. The K3's receiver is a superhet (i.e. converts the input signal to a fixed intermediate frequency where it is amplified, filtered then demodulated). A successful superhet receiver is a carefully balanced system from the antenna input to the audio or data output. One component that might make a huge improvement in one superhet design may have little or no benefit in another superhet design. In the 90 years since Col. Armstrong developed the superhet receiver platform all of the improvements have been in the various components, not in the underlying design. And that continues. However, a full SDR receiver may not use the superhet architecture at all. An SDR receiver typically converts the RF signal at the antenna input directly into digital data and from that point on it's all crunching bits and bytes until, if an analog output such as audio to speaker or phones is needed, the digital data is used to produce an analog audio signal. I got the impression from the video with Wayne that the KX3 *may* use a full SDR receiver. Whether or not the KX3 uses a full SDR or retains a superhet architecture, it will have quite different demands on the components than the K3, including the DSP system. I'm sure there will be a LOT of test data comparing the KX3 and K3 receiver as well as endless anecdotal comparisons shared here on the reflector by those with both units. I'm looking forward to them. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- I note that Wayne makes a point of the fact that the DSP in the KX3 is 32-bit, floating point. This buzzphrase is also used by other manufacturers to tout their DSPs, but I can't find any similar description of the DSP hardware in the K3. To raise again a point that was mentioned yesterday: if there's a potential for getting more DSP horsepower in the K3, I'm sure that many K3 owners would happily pay for a retrofit. Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] DSP
Wayne was talking about an optional roofing filter that is in the audio range ahead of the DAC in the YouTube video. So it is seriously down-converted before it goes digital. It's not a Flex 5000. 73, Guy. On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote: And I'd not be at all surprised to see such upgrades available at some future time if the improvement is significant in the K3 application and there is sufficient demand. But that may not be the case. The K3's receiver is a superhet (i.e. converts the input signal to a fixed intermediate frequency where it is amplified, filtered then demodulated). A successful superhet receiver is a carefully balanced system from the antenna input to the audio or data output. One component that might make a huge improvement in one superhet design may have little or no benefit in another superhet design. In the 90 years since Col. Armstrong developed the superhet receiver platform all of the improvements have been in the various components, not in the underlying design. And that continues. However, a full SDR receiver may not use the superhet architecture at all. An SDR receiver typically converts the RF signal at the antenna input directly into digital data and from that point on it's all crunching bits and bytes until, if an analog output such as audio to speaker or phones is needed, the digital data is used to produce an analog audio signal. I got the impression from the video with Wayne that the KX3 *may* use a full SDR receiver. Whether or not the KX3 uses a full SDR or retains a superhet architecture, it will have quite different demands on the components than the K3, including the DSP system. I'm sure there will be a LOT of test data comparing the KX3 and K3 receiver as well as endless anecdotal comparisons shared here on the reflector by those with both units. I'm looking forward to them. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- I note that Wayne makes a point of the fact that the DSP in the KX3 is 32-bit, floating point. This buzzphrase is also used by other manufacturers to tout their DSPs, but I can't find any similar description of the DSP hardware in the K3. To raise again a point that was mentioned yesterday: if there's a potential for getting more DSP horsepower in the K3, I'm sure that many K3 owners would happily pay for a retrofit. Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Baseband filter?
QSD has always meant, Your keying is defective. I'm guessing that isn't what's meant here? 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011 - www.cqp.org On 5/21/2011 8:30 AM, Paul Christensen wrote: With the KX3's QSD down-convert architecture, my guess is that all performance parameters will be superb, with BDR specs probably well behind the K3. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Baseband filter?
Quadrature Sampling Detector QSD has always meant, Your keying is defective. I'm guessing that isn't what's meant here? 73, Fred K6DGW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] DSP
Perhaps we just need to take a breather on this thing. This general discussion (no fingers specifically pointed) is getting to be as ridiculous as the end of world. The prototype about which we know very little is already being reengineered by people who know even less, and somehow this has morphed into a K3 is dead, and has to be brought up to spec and maybe NR will be better and where is the K3 upgrade discussion. Because a better (?) DSP will solve every problem. Right. The radio is at least 6 months away, and we already have a Yahoo users group, where the speculation and reengineering will no doubt take on a life of it's own. Good grief ... zip it back up, take a cold shower, and let's see -- rationally -- what the radio is and is not. And LET ELECRAFT ENGINEER IT Sent from my iPhone On May 21, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net wrote: Wayne was talking about an optional roofing filter that is in the audio range ahead of the DAC in the YouTube video. So it is seriously down-converted before it goes digital. It's not a Flex 5000. 73, Guy. On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote: And I'd not be at all surprised to see such upgrades available at some future time if the improvement is significant in the K3 application and there is sufficient demand. But that may not be the case. The K3's receiver is a superhet (i.e. converts the input signal to a fixed intermediate frequency where it is amplified, filtered then demodulated). A successful superhet receiver is a carefully balanced system from the antenna input to the audio or data output. One component that might make a huge improvement in one superhet design may have little or no benefit in another superhet design. In the 90 years since Col. Armstrong developed the superhet receiver platform all of the improvements have been in the various components, not in the underlying design. And that continues. However, a full SDR receiver may not use the superhet architecture at all. An SDR receiver typically converts the RF signal at the antenna input directly into digital data and from that point on it's all crunching bits and bytes until, if an analog output such as audio to speaker or phones is needed, the digital data is used to produce an analog audio signal. I got the impression from the video with Wayne that the KX3 *may* use a full SDR receiver. Whether or not the KX3 uses a full SDR or retains a superhet architecture, it will have quite different demands on the components than the K3, including the DSP system. I'm sure there will be a LOT of test data comparing the KX3 and K3 receiver as well as endless anecdotal comparisons shared here on the reflector by those with both units. I'm looking forward to them. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- I note that Wayne makes a point of the fact that the DSP in the KX3 is 32-bit, floating point. This buzzphrase is also used by other manufacturers to tout their DSPs, but I can't find any similar description of the DSP hardware in the K3. To raise again a point that was mentioned yesterday: if there's a potential for getting more DSP horsepower in the K3, I'm sure that many K3 owners would happily pay for a retrofit. Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Something *really* new at Dayton from Elecraft
I bought my K3 [#642] because I liked its performance and feature set and I like Elecraft, I already had a K2/100 and KX1. None of the K3 features and performance goes away when a KX3 or K4 hits the market. Everything gets improved [although a lot of things billed as improvements aren't always so ... Windoze Me/Vista? :-)]. My KPA500 is on order, I want QSK at 500W. I've been running my old KW at 500W just to see if it matters. It likely does to some, but not me. A KPA1500, if there ever is one, isn't going to change that. My phone is a year old and is so hopelessly obsolete my grandsons don't even try and suppress their laughter when Grandpa gets it out. It makes and receives telephone calls however, which is what I got it for. Frankly, I don't care what pile my K3 ends up in, it does what I want and will continue to do so. Has a K4 really been announced or is everyone just making this up? 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011 - www.cqp.org On 5/21/2011 9:59 AM, Merv Schweigert wrote: I am not anxious to see my K3 go to the second best pile I guess, if the K4 comes along and is better than my K3 that means I must buy another radio or settle for second best. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] DSP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yep, good advice. On 5/21/2011 4:48 PM, Grant Youngman wrote: Perhaps we just need to take a breather on this thing. This general discussion (no fingers specifically pointed) is getting to be as ridiculous as the end of world. The prototype about which we know very little is already being reengineered by people who know even less, and somehow this has morphed into a K3 is dead, and has to be brought up to spec and maybe NR will be better and where is the K3 upgrade discussion. Because a better (?) DSP will solve every problem. Right. The radio is at least 6 months away, and we already have a Yahoo users group, where the speculation and reengineering will no doubt take on a life of it's own. Good grief ... zip it back up, take a cold shower, and let's see -- rationally -- what the radio is and is not. And LET ELECRAFT ENGINEER IT - -- R. Kevin Stover ACØH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN2DdbAAoJEAu8BkU0m9MnyRgIAKTEcxT16nmI6kkYhUVnKdLN FP9/4ZbX6aQ9l4nhURpLLvzBLE3Yc0oT7Fb6MHRUA5+1OFVnAHaZzXW8pxdiZ8eg aa4tqaUI2wANjVXrq9Aa+6IbdgvnKcysLMljVy8rKmYhnRxON7YDWEpq+9jOz5uW QQ0Ws7q3v+ZeTZBfAAlt3bvtNtjQsHQ7S8zigbysPUhAZACE+aQuld7NNRLK9IJb d3VPhYcMRAYu4/6Nii22s5QpqNd44dNGRH9qouJidox4snZZv0OEo/0HnUar4C/1 N7/AVNeWvzEoAs12pmq/u3Od/iFPvbIpuUBYdaZ6sMqiYRf92K4u5c/uPAUEmok= =1UGo -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] DSP
Guy, the Flex is down converted as well to 11kHz before the A/D. Jim, W4ATK On May 21, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: Wayne was talking about an optional roofing filter that is in the audio range ahead of the DAC in the YouTube video. So it is seriously down-converted before it goes digital. It's not a Flex 5000. 73, Guy. On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote: And I'd not be at all surprised to see such upgrades available at some future time if the improvement is significant in the K3 application and there is sufficient demand. But that may not be the case. The K3's receiver is a superhet (i.e. converts the input signal to a fixed intermediate frequency where it is amplified, filtered then demodulated). A successful superhet receiver is a carefully balanced system from the antenna input to the audio or data output. One component that might make a huge improvement in one superhet design may have little or no benefit in another superhet design. In the 90 years since Col. Armstrong developed the superhet receiver platform all of the improvements have been in the various components, not in the underlying design. And that continues. However, a full SDR receiver may not use the superhet architecture at all. An SDR receiver typically converts the RF signal at the antenna input directly into digital data and from that point on it's all crunching bits and bytes until, if an analog output such as audio to speaker or phones is needed, the digital data is used to produce an analog audio signal. I got the impression from the video with Wayne that the KX3 *may* use a full SDR receiver. Whether or not the KX3 uses a full SDR or retains a superhet architecture, it will have quite different demands on the components than the K3, including the DSP system. I'm sure there will be a LOT of test data comparing the KX3 and K3 receiver as well as endless anecdotal comparisons shared here on the reflector by those with both units. I'm looking forward to them. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- I note that Wayne makes a point of the fact that the DSP in the KX3 is 32-bit, floating point. This buzzphrase is also used by other manufacturers to tout their DSPs, but I can't find any similar description of the DSP hardware in the K3. To raise again a point that was mentioned yesterday: if there's a potential for getting more DSP horsepower in the K3, I'm sure that many K3 owners would happily pay for a retrofit. Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html JIM ROGERS, W4ATK w4...@bellsouth.net http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk K3/100 P3 K2/10 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Something *really* new at Dayton from Elecraft
Hi Wayne,Eric and other Elecraft members: It was a great pleasure to meet you in person yesterday and today again at your table. As usual, anytime I go to see your presentations I feel prouder to be an Elecraft K3 user,you guys has worked hard to please all of us the users and to make high performance radios to compete with the asian market.That new project,the KX3 or mini K3 at 10W level I am sure will be a big seller.It look cute and I am sure it will perform better than all other QRP's on the market,I wish you good sucess on the marketing of that new product,73 AD4C Your loyal customer. If freedom means something,it is the right to tell others what they don't want to hear –George Orwell --- On Sat, 5/21/11, JonKG6VDW jmood...@gmail.com wrote: From: JonKG6VDW jmood...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Something *really* new at Dayton from Elecraft To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 6:04 PM Hi Wayne, All I can say is WOW ! This is what happens when people who love what they do do what they love More Companies need to figure this out again. You and your company are building the radios that we all wish we could build ourselves. I personally will continue building my own versions of what you guys are doing just for the educational value. By experimenting with my own projects and using yours as a benchmark it really allows me to appreciate what really goes into a really great product. It also makes me realize that no one person has all the skills necessary to make what is really a functional work of art such as what you and your Company produce. So even though I build some of my own stuff, I will continue working extra hours so that I can purchase your incredible products ! Congratulations to You, Eric, Lyle and all the rest of your hard working staff members. It really takes a great team to do what you guys have managed to accomplish. I sense another incredibly successful product launch coming our way yet once again. And I am proud to be here witnessing history unfold. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Something-really-new-at-Dayton-from-Elecraft-tp6380523p6389904.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Baseband filter?
Once available, I can't imagine anything better for a DXpedition. I can ... the K3 with its *full* dual receive and reasonable size. I am, admittedly, not a fan of portable or backpack radio but the KX3 is simply too small and underpowered for my taste, The benefits of a real 100W radio will still make a K3 the radio of choice for DXPeditions over the KX3/PPX100 combination. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/21/2011 11:30 AM, Paul Christensen wrote: According to Wayne, Rx performance will be similar to that of the Flex-3000. With the KX3's QSD down-convert architecture, my guess is that all performance parameters will be superb, with BDR specs probably well behind the K3. I'm basing my opinion only on the little information available. Who knows what other magic they developed to close the gap in performance. It's hard to believe that such performance is attainable in a low-current design. Take a look at Dan Tayloe's Norcal 2030. It's nearly a miracle that he attained such high performance in a quadrature detector design and yet the Rx current is less than 12 mA. The KX3 effectively combines the best performance and portability attributes of the Flex-3000 and Flex-1500 into a highly modular package. Once available, I can't imagine anything better for a DXpedition. For contesting, FD , etc., the K3 would still surpass it. I really like the KX3 panel design. I'm still hoping that the next major Elecraft transceiver continues with modular architecture to allow for a choice in remote control panels between portable and base station sizes. There's no longer a need to bind the hardware to the control surface. Paul, W9AC Original Message - From: Rick Pratherk6limae...@gmail.com To: Bruce Befordbruce.bef...@myfairpoint.net Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Baseband filter? Thank you Bruce, I was also puzzled by that part of the presentation. Rick K6LE On 5/21/2011, at 8:01 , Bruce Beford wrote: Baseband refers to the fact that the QSD down-converts the RF to IQ streams at directly near-audio range frequencies. The ADC converts this to digital, and the DSP then does the demodulation. From the description, the IF frequencies are in the 10 KHz range. So, the baseband roofing filter will be a selectable active audio filter operating in this range, prior to the ADC. This will prevent excessive out of band energy from reaching the ADC. Bruce, N1RX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] For sale: KDSP2 for the K2 (DSP filter)
I'm selling my KDSP2 for the K2. I bought it for the purpose of programming it to make a continuously-variable bandwidth filter on my K2, but it's clear I'm not going to get to this project any time soon. The KDSP2 allows a great deal of tuning control over bandwidths and center frequencies for CW, SSB and data modes, and also includes a real-time clock. It works perfectly. This consists of the KDSP2 board plus the piggyback-style DSPx module. $150 includes shipping within U.S. Payment by PayPal. For more info see www.elecraft.com/KDSP2/kdsp2.htm 73, --Andrew __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 External Key ...
I remember Wayne taking a lot of interest in the Porta Paddle[1] which was on sale at Pacificon last year. Now I know what we was thinking ;) ~iain / N6ML [1] http://www.americanmorse.com/portapaddle.htm On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Andy - GM0NWI andy.gm0n...@btinternet.com wrote: Guy's.. Anyone got any inside information on wether we will be able to buy the small Iambic Key we have seen on the recent K3 videos - Seperatley from the radio itself when the launch is finally underway ? Not sure if that particular key would work with other rigs etc, but if it could be adapted, I for one would be interested in a purchase.. So anyone out there got solid answers to the above questions ? 73's Andy GM0NWI andy.gm0n...@btinternet.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 Spec Sheet
As an aid to those of you who weren't at Dayton to see the KX3, I'll pass on the following from the Spec Sheet that was handed out as well as a comment on the price. Price first: A little bird told me the targe price would be in the $800 range. I didn't get that from Wayne, but from another Elecraft employee. There is a disclaimer on the Spec Sheet that reads; This is advance information. Specifications and option/accessory availability are subject to change without notice. OK we've got that out of the way. Everything below is directly from the spec sheet: KX3 STANDARD FEATURES ° 160-6 meter ham bands; generazl coverage from 1.6-30 MHz (optional broadcast-band filter module covers 0.5-1.6 KHz) °All modes: SSB, CW, Data (four sub-modes), AM FM °Ultra-compact size: 3.4H x 7.4W x 1.7D; 18 oz. (less options) °Rear tilt feet fold up for transport °Custom high-contrast LCD with alphanumeric text display °Current drain as low as 150 mA in receive mode °High-performance 32-bit floating-point DSP °Built-in PSK/TTY decode/encode allows data mode operation without a PC; transmit in data modes using CW keyer paddle °Low-noise synthesizer with 1-Hz tuning resolution °Firmware updateable via provided application software RECEIVER °Quadrature down-sampling mixer compatible with PC-based SDR (software-defined-radio) applications °Receiver I/Q outputs for use with PC soundcard °Narrow roofing filter option with four bandwidths (500Hz, 1500Hz, 2700Hz, 3800Hz) for excellent dynamic range °Switchable preamp (2 levels) and attenuator (2 levels) °8-band receive audio equalizer °Dual watch over ±10kHz range; uses applicable roofing filter °Easy-to-use PassBand Tuning (PBT) for shift/width/hicut/locut; roofing filters automatically track DSP filter settings °Automatic and manual notch filtering; adjustable noise reduction and noise blanking; binaural audio effects for enhanced receive °Center-tuning indicator for CW and data modes °Built-in speaker; stereo jack for headphones/external speakers TRANSMITTER °Adjustable output, 0.1 to 10W+ (100W+ with KXPA100 amp) °Ruged, SWR and temperature-protected final amplifier stage °Optional MH3 microphone with PT and UP/DOWN functions °Optional attached keyer paddle with spacing adjustment °Switchable PA output impedance for efficient 5-W or 10-W use °Fast, silent, PIN-diode T-R switching - no relays °DSP speech processing for excellent punch °8 band equalizer tailors passband to your voice and microphone OTHER FEATURES °Built in digital voice recorder (DVR) with two message buffers °Internal CW keyer with 8-50 WPM range °Six CW/DATA message memories °100 general-purpose memories store VFO A/B, modes, etc. °Accessory/RS-232 port for computer control using supplied cable °Full remote-control command set works with most amateur radio software applications (emulates Elecraft K3) °One-click firmware upgrades via the web (with free PC software) Optional mobile bracket compatible with RAM-mounts °Tutoriall-style manual ideal for new hams OPTIONS and ACCESSORIES KXFLE Roofing Filter Module (500/1500/2700/3800 Hz) KXAT3 Internal, Wide-Range 20-W Automatic Antenna Tuner KXAM3 Broadcast Band Filter Module (0.5-1.6 MHz) KXBT3 Internal 8-AA Cell Battery Pack with NiMH Charger (Batteries not supplied; nonrechanrgeable batteries can also be used) KXPD3 Precision Keyer Paddle KXMM3 Mobile Mount Bracket MH3 Hand Microphone with UP/DN Controls KUSB RS232 to USB Adapter KXPA100 High-Performance 160-6 meter, 100-W Amplifier; usable with most 5 to 10 W transceivers KXAT100 Wide-Range 100-W ATU with Dual Anenna Jacks (attaches to KXPA100 module) I will add that I actually played with it for a couple of minutes, held it in my hands and it is remarkably light. There was a sign up list for getting email when orders will be accepted (late Summer is what the same little bird told me) For those of you across the pond, Wayne said they did not have CE approval, yet. IMHO, the Yaesu FT-817 is dead, long live the KX3! Chuck K4SC -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-Spec-Sheet-tp6390554p6390554.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 External Key ...
Hi I dont know why manufacturers just dont install the electronics for a touch paddle. A touch paddle is the most precise way of sending CW. No mechanical paddles that I have come across yet can match a touch key for precision fast CW. While the mechanical contraptions from even the best makers such as Begali are good, they are still mechanical devices with numerous timing issues that vary with age and temperature. It would have been nice if the KX3 had a touch paddle option, it would have been much simpler option in my view. 73 John --- On Sat, 5/21/11, iain macdonnell - N6ML a...@dseven.org wrote: From: iain macdonnell - N6ML a...@dseven.org Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 External Key ... To: Andy - GM0NWI andy.gm0n...@btinternet.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 5:04 PM I remember Wayne taking a lot of interest in the Porta Paddle[1] which was on sale at Pacificon last year. Now I know what we was thinking ;) ~iain / N6ML [1] http://www.americanmorse.com/portapaddle.htm On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Andy - GM0NWI andy.gm0n...@btinternet.com wrote: Guy's.. Anyone got any inside information on wether we will be able to buy the small Iambic Key we have seen on the recent K3 videos - Seperatley from the radio itself when the launch is finally underway ? Not sure if that particular key would work with other rigs etc, but if it could be adapted, I for one would be interested in a purchase.. So anyone out there got solid answers to the above questions ? 73's Andy GM0NWI andy.gm0n...@btinternet.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Spec Sheet
Transverter interface?? --Lenny W2BVH On 5/21/2011 8:28 PM, K4SC wrote: As an aid to those of you who weren't at Dayton to see the KX3, I'll pass on the following from the Spec Sheet that was handed out as well as a comment on the price. Price first: A little bird told me the targe price would be in the $800 range. I didn't get that from Wayne, but from another Elecraft employee. There is a disclaimer on the Spec Sheet that reads; This is advance information. Specifications and option/accessory availability are subject to change without notice. OK we've got that out of the way. Everything below is directly from the spec sheet: KX3 STANDARD FEATURES ° 160-6 meter ham bands; generazl coverage from 1.6-30 MHz (optional broadcast-band filter module covers 0.5-1.6 KHz) °All modes: SSB, CW, Data (four sub-modes), AM FM °Ultra-compact size: 3.4H x 7.4W x 1.7D; 18 oz. (less options) °Rear tilt feet fold up for transport °Custom high-contrast LCD with alphanumeric text display °Current drain as low as 150 mA in receive mode °High-performance 32-bit floating-point DSP °Built-in PSK/TTY decode/encode allows data mode operation without a PC; transmit in data modes using CW keyer paddle °Low-noise synthesizer with 1-Hz tuning resolution °Firmware updateable via provided application software RECEIVER °Quadrature down-sampling mixer compatible with PC-based SDR (software-defined-radio) applications °Receiver I/Q outputs for use with PC soundcard °Narrow roofing filter option with four bandwidths (500Hz, 1500Hz, 2700Hz, 3800Hz) for excellent dynamic range °Switchable preamp (2 levels) and attenuator (2 levels) °8-band receive audio equalizer °Dual watch over ±10kHz range; uses applicable roofing filter °Easy-to-use PassBand Tuning (PBT) for shift/width/hicut/locut; roofing filters automatically track DSP filter settings °Automatic and manual notch filtering; adjustable noise reduction and noise blanking; binaural audio effects for enhanced receive °Center-tuning indicator for CW and data modes °Built-in speaker; stereo jack for headphones/external speakers TRANSMITTER °Adjustable output, 0.1 to 10W+ (100W+ with KXPA100 amp) °Ruged, SWR and temperature-protected final amplifier stage °Optional MH3 microphone with PT and UP/DOWN functions °Optional attached keyer paddle with spacing adjustment °Switchable PA output impedance for efficient 5-W or 10-W use °Fast, silent, PIN-diode T-R switching - no relays °DSP speech processing for excellent punch °8 band equalizer tailors passband to your voice and microphone OTHER FEATURES °Built in digital voice recorder (DVR) with two message buffers °Internal CW keyer with 8-50 WPM range °Six CW/DATA message memories °100 general-purpose memories store VFO A/B, modes, etc. °Accessory/RS-232 port for computer control using supplied cable °Full remote-control command set works with most amateur radio software applications (emulates Elecraft K3) °One-click firmware upgrades via the web (with free PC software) Optional mobile bracket compatible with RAM-mounts °Tutoriall-style manual ideal for new hams OPTIONS and ACCESSORIES KXFLE Roofing Filter Module (500/1500/2700/3800 Hz) KXAT3 Internal, Wide-Range 20-W Automatic Antenna Tuner KXAM3 Broadcast Band Filter Module (0.5-1.6 MHz) KXBT3 Internal 8-AA Cell Battery Pack with NiMH Charger (Batteries not supplied; nonrechanrgeable batteries can also be used) KXPD3 Precision Keyer Paddle KXMM3 Mobile Mount Bracket MH3 Hand Microphone with UP/DN Controls KUSB RS232 to USB Adapter KXPA100 High-Performance 160-6 meter, 100-W Amplifier; usable with most 5 to 10 W transceivers KXAT100 Wide-Range 100-W ATU with Dual Anenna Jacks (attaches to KXPA100 module) I will add that I actually played with it for a couple of minutes, held it in my hands and it is remarkably light. There was a sign up list for getting email when orders will be accepted (late Summer is what the same little bird told me) For those of you across the pond, Wayne said they did not have CE approval, yet. IMHO, the Yaesu FT-817 is dead, long live the KX3! Chuck K4SC -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-Spec-Sheet-tp6390554p6390554.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:
Re: [Elecraft] K3 External Key ...
I dont know why manufacturers just dont install the electronics for a touch paddle. For the very same reason that computer manufacturers do not install capacitive or touch screen (no motion) keyboards. Most CW users prefer the mechanical feedback of a lever operated paddle that shows *some* degree of resistance with the initial touch and a hard stop when the contact is closed. This is similar to the best keyboards that show an initial mechanical resistance when the key is first pressed, a break over point at which the back pressure is substantially reduced followed by a hard stop when the key reaches the end of its travel. For a touch typist, a capacitive or touch screen keyboard is a nightmare just as a capacitive paddle is painful for most CW operators. Both are subject to significant errors since the best operators tend to make slight contact with the keys at all times. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/21/2011 8:42 PM, juergen wrote: Hi I dont know why manufacturers just dont install the electronics for atouch paddle. A touch paddle is the most precise way of sending CW. No mechanical paddles that I have come across yet can match a touch key for precision fast CW. While the mechanical contraptions from even the best makers such as Begali are good, they are still mechanical devices with numerous timing issues that vary with age and temperature. It would have been nice if the KX3 had a touch paddle option, it would have been much simpler option in my view. 73 John --- On Sat, 5/21/11, iain macdonnell - N6MLa...@dseven.org wrote: From: iain macdonnell - N6MLa...@dseven.org Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 External Key ... To: Andy - GM0NWIandy.gm0n...@btinternet.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 5:04 PM I remember Wayne taking a lot of interest in the Porta Paddle[1] which was on sale at Pacificon last year. Now I know what we was thinking ;) ~iain / N6ML [1] http://www.americanmorse.com/portapaddle.htm On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Andy - GM0NWI andy.gm0n...@btinternet.com wrote: Guy's.. Anyone got any inside information on wether we will be able to buy the small Iambic Key we have seen on the recent K3 videos - Seperatley from the radio itself when the launch is finally underway ? Not sure if that particular key would work with other rigs etc, but if it could be adapted, I for one would be interested in a purchase.. So anyone out there got solid answers to the above questions ? 73's Andy GM0NWI andy.gm0n...@btinternet.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Spec Sheet
Voice recognition? Kevin On 22/05/2011 10:43 AM, w2bvh wrote: Transverter interface?? --Lenny W2BVH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2 #2431 for sale.
For Sale K2 #2481 Software versions 2.01 H1.02 Rig was purchased April 2007. I am it's 2nd owner. Rig has always been operated inside my shack. Rig was aligned and tested June 16, 2010 by Don Wilhelm, W3FPR. It has seen very little use since then. Reason for sale: K2 has sat mostly unused since it was replaced as my main rig, by K3 #4123, which has been begging me for a KRX3 and matching filters. ;-) K2/10 HF Transceiver699.95 KSB2 SSB Option109.95 K160RX 160M Option 39.95 KNB2 Noise Blanker 49.95 KAF2 Audio Filter 79.95 KIO2 RS-232 Serial Interface (with cable) 99.95 FDIMP Finger Dimple for K1 K2 6.95 ETS15 1.5 Tilt Stand for EC2, KAT100 14.95 also included is the original 3 Tilt Stand K2KSB2XTLS Matched Filter Crystals (14) For existing K2 and KSB2 combinations. 15.00 E850089 Grill Cloth 1.00 BFOMDKT K2 BFO Toroid PLL Ref Osc Xtal Upgrade 10.00 XFILMDKTSecond Filter Upgrade 10.00 CliftonLabs Z1-K2 Buffer installed for IF output. $44.95 I will include the working Softrock Lite II interface used between the K2 and the computer for panadapter. Blemishes are worn paint on tuning knobs center edges and a mis-drilled hole on rear, covered by serial number :-( Total invested ~$1200.00 Asking $750.00 Can be seen at: https://picasaweb.google.com/k5oai.sam/K22481# Contact me off list please. -- GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 RTTY Decode Not Woirking
I've got two K3s in an SO2R setup. RTTY decode does not work with either one. It's turned on, I'm using the lowest tone set (915 Hz), set for 170 Hz shift. Plenty of signal, CWT is on and centered. MMTTY decodes very well. Decoder simply dumps out random characters. I've played with the threshold settings, and with AF and RF gain settings. Tried AFSK A and FSK D, no difference in decode. Any ideas? 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 #2431 for sale.
forgot also included is K0SS K2 External T-R Relay Driver kit, installed. $16.00 GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 5/21/2011 8:17 PM, Sam Morgan wrote: For Sale K2 #2481 Software versions 2.01 H 1.02 Rig was purchased April 2007. I am it's 2nd owner. Rig has always been operated inside my shack. Rig was aligned and tested June 16, 2010 by Don Wilhelm, W3FPR. It has seen very little use since then. Reason for sale: K2 has sat mostly unused since it was replaced as my main rig, by K3 #4123, which has been begging me for a KRX3 and matching filters. ;-) K2/10 HF Transceiver 699.95 KSB2 SSB Option 109.95 K160RX 160M Option 39.95 KNB2 Noise Blanker 49.95 KAF2 Audio Filter 79.95 KIO2 RS-232 Serial Interface (with cable) 99.95 FDIMP Finger Dimple for K1 K2 6.95 ETS15 1.5 Tilt Stand for EC2, KAT100 14.95 also included is the original 3 Tilt Stand K2KSB2XTLS Matched Filter Crystals (14) For existing K2 and KSB2 combinations. 15.00 E850089 Grill Cloth 1.00 BFOMDKT K2 BFO Toroid PLL Ref Osc Xtal Upgrade 10.00 XFILMDKT Second Filter Upgrade 10.00 CliftonLabs Z1-K2 Buffer installed for IF output. $44.95 I will include the working Softrock Lite II interface used between the K2 and the computer for panadapter. Blemishes are worn paint on tuning knobs center edges and a mis-drilled hole on rear, covered by serial number :-( Total invested ~$1200.00 Asking $750.00 Can be seen at: https://picasaweb.google.com/k5oai.sam/K22481# Contact me off list please. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Glad to see you in Dayton 2011
Hello Group, It has been a wonderful time to see many of you in person (of course including Wayne and Eric) in the past two days. We have been in correspondence with some of you for quite a long time in this mail reflector. It is the first time that we met each other face-to-face. The 15 long hour flight from Hong Kong is very worthwhile. I also met Don Wilhem who has helped me a lot in my weakest areas - technical side of Elecraft products. I took the chance to say 'thank you' to him personally. I will take the chance to visit the airforce musem in Dayton tomorrow. After that, I will stay in NYC for a couple of days for sight seeing before returning to Hong Kong. Hope to see you again !! TNX 73, Johnny VR2XMC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] DSP
I thought the purpose of these groups was endless speculation and the creation of pent up demand. Now you want to ruin that :-) --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Grant Youngman n...@tx.rr.com wrote: Perhaps we just need to take a breather on this thing. This general discussion (no fingers specifically pointed) is getting to be as ridiculous as the end of world. The prototype about which we know very little is already being reengineered by people who know even less, and somehow this has morphed into a K3 is dead, and has to be brought up to spec and maybe NR will be better and where is the K3 upgrade discussion. Because a better (?) DSP will solve every problem. Right. The radio is at least 6 months away, and we already have a Yahoo users group, where the speculation and reengineering will no doubt take on a life of it's own. Good grief ... zip it back up, take a cold shower, and let's see -- rationally -- what the radio is and is not. And LET ELECRAFT ENGINEER IT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 External Key ...
juergen piezo wrote: A touch paddle is the most precise way of sending CW. No mechanical paddles that I have come across yet can match a touch key for precision fast CW. Not true. Check out what competitors at the High Speed Telegraphy Championships use for sending. All paddles are mechanical and most use single lever (non-iambic). Barry W2UP on this list was previously a competitor in 2007 and 2009. 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-External-Key-tp6389158p6390677.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY Decode Not Working
Jim, I'd never used 915 Hz before, as I'd been using 1275 for quite a while now with the K3. I left MMTTY alone and just turned the K3 pitch to 915 and the TEXT DEC to thr 3 and ON with FSK D. The K3 is copying now on 20 RTTY just fine. I tuned in the signal first at 1275 with the crossed ellipses in MMTTY before I switched the radio to 915. I have three bars on each side with CWT. I'm using a 300 Hz DSP BW with the 400 Hz filter now. I'm actually using DXLab's WinWarbler with MMTTY, but I think that's irrelevant. Jim N7US -Original Message- I've got two K3s in an SO2R setup. RTTY decode does not work with either one. It's turned on, I'm using the lowest tone set (915 Hz), set for 170 Hz shift. Plenty of signal, CWT is on and centered. MMTTY decodes very well. Decoder simply dumps out random characters. I've played with the threshold settings, and with AF and RF gain settings. Tried AFSK A and FSK D, no difference in decode. Any ideas? 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 - where do I sign up for one?
Is Elecraft taking deposits? 73, Chris KF6VCI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 RTTY Decode Not Woirking
Jim, Is the baud rate set to 45 or 75? Rick, K6LE On 5/21/2011, at 6:25 , Jim Brown wrote: I've got two K3s in an SO2R setup. RTTY decode does not work with either one. It's turned on, I'm using the lowest tone set (915 Hz), set for 170 Hz shift. Plenty of signal, CWT is on and centered. MMTTY decodes very well. Decoder simply dumps out random characters. I've played with the threshold settings, and with AF and RF gain settings. Tried AFSK A and FSK D, no difference in decode. Any ideas? 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 External Key ...
Well John, I suspect you'd agree that the absolute most precise CW comes from a keyboard with a type-ahead buffer so even short pauses won't affect word spacing. But the fact is that CW operators at any speed have personal preferences and a lot of us prefer some sort of mechanical keying device that requires additional skill, whether it's a high-end paddle, a mechanical bug or a straight key. It's not always about ensured perfect code, but the desire to have the skill to produce as close to it as possible by our personal choice of key. Over the years electronic keyers became so popular equipment manufacturers started including them in their transmitters, but for many years if you wanted a keyer you bought a keyer. The same might happened with touch keys one day. It all depends upon their popularity. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of juergen Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 5:42 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 External Key ... Hi I dont know why manufacturers just dont install the electronics for a touch paddle. A touch paddle is the most precise way of sending CW. No mechanical paddles that I have come across yet can match a touch key for precision fast CW. While the mechanical contraptions from even the best makers such as Begali are good, they are still mechanical devices with numerous timing issues that vary with age and temperature. It would have been nice if the KX3 had a touch paddle option, it would have been much simpler option in my view. 73 John --- On Sat, 5/21/11, iain macdonnell - N6ML a...@dseven.org wrote: From: iain macdonnell - N6ML a...@dseven.org Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 External Key ... To: Andy - GM0NWI andy.gm0n...@btinternet.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 5:04 PM I remember Wayne taking a lot of interest in the Porta Paddle[1] which was on sale at Pacificon last year. Now I know what we was thinking ;) ~iain / N6ML [1] http://www.americanmorse.com/portapaddle.htm On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Andy - GM0NWI andy.gm0n...@btinternet.com wrote: Guy's.. Anyone got any inside information on wether we will be able to buy the small Iambic Key we have seen on the recent K3 videos - Seperatley from the radio itself when the launch is finally underway ? Not sure if that particular key would work with other rigs etc, but if it could be adapted, I for one would be interested in a purchase.. So anyone out there got solid answers to the above questions ? 73's Andy GM0NWI andy.gm0n...@btinternet.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] DSP
One thing the Elecrew does very well is keeping overlap out of its product lineup. The fact that there are no discontinued transceivers in the lineup supports that. While some overlap is inevitable, each transceiver seems to be geared to serving a certain audience with certain needs and operating habits. While the KX3 is appears to be highly adaptable, it's not a K3, or a K2, or a reason to bring the others in line with its capabilities. My main problem isn't how do I get a KX3 - but rather, how do I get a KX3 and a K3 and a P3 and a KPA500 and a K1 and --Andrew, NV1B somehow this has morphed into a K3 is dead, and has to be brought up to spec and maybe NR will be better and where is the K3 upgrade discussion. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 External Key ...
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 8:42 PM, juergen plebia...@yahoo.com wrote: I dont know why manufacturers just dont install the electronics for a touch paddle. Tactile feedback can be important. Imagine typing on a computer with a membrane (chiclet style) keyboard -- like the old Sinclair 1000. It could be done but not sure if I'd want to do it. --Andrew, NV1B __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 External Key ...
How many remember inputing a program with the front panel switches on your wirewrapped computers? I am so happy that tape came along to end that tedious procedure. Kevin. KD5ONS On Sat, 21 May 2011 19:38:33 -0700, Andrew Moore andrew.n...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 8:42 PM, juergen plebia...@yahoo.com wrote: I dont know why manufacturers just dont install the electronics for a touch paddle. Tactile feedback can be important. Imagine typing on a computer with a membrane (chiclet style) keyboard -- like the old Sinclair 1000. It could be done but not sure if I'd want to do it. --Andrew, NV1B __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 External Key ...
Many times on an SEL810A - took 15 minutes of button pounding just to boot it far enough to read the paper tape and then the paper tape would jam half way through its read. Ah... those were the days that would make a roomful of grown men cry. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- How many remember inputing a program with the front panel switches on your wirewrapped computers? I am so happy that tape came along to end that tedious procedure. Kevin. KD5ONS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 External Key ...
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote: ...just to boot it far enough to read the paper tape and then the paper tape would jam... Ah yes! Or how about getting your cards all stacked and ready to try a compile only to drop the whole damn deck and have half of them slide under the filing cabinet. Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Kx3
I was shocked by the introduction of the k3x prototype. I hadn't realized that ham radio was going in that direction, eventually a 160-10 iphone? I was encouraged by the Yaesu R5000 big, lots of hobby knobs. I must get with the times, small and portable handheld ip radios, the future. K6CG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Kx3
Not quite but elecraft just filled up the market demand for that kind of radio. Sent from my iPhone 4 Richard Thorpe kis...@me.com 於 2011年5月21日 下午11:13 寫道： I was shocked by the introduction of the k3x prototype. I hadn't realized that ham radio was going in that direction, eventually a 160-10 iphone? I was encouraged by the Yaesu R5000 big, lots of hobby knobs. I must get with the times, small and portable handheld ip radios, the future. K6CG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Kx3
Why should you be shocked that a portable radio is... portable! In the video, Wayne describes it as a TRF - Trail Friendly Radio, try that lugging an FT-5000 on your next hike. :) Rob NV5E From: kis...@me.com Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 20:13:47 -0700 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Kx3 I was shocked by the introduction of the k3x prototype. I hadn't realized that ham radio was going in that direction, eventually a 160-10 iphone? I was encouraged by the Yaesu R5000 big, lots of hobby knobs. I must get with the times, small and portable handheld ip radios, the future. K6CG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 External Key ...
Or walking across campus with a box of cards when all of a sudden you slip on the ice and they blow into a snowbank. I was glad my mother was nowhere around because I used my father's DI language instruction fluently :) Luckily it was so cold the snow was dry so I could blow most of them off. Sorting soggy punch cards is no fun. Kevin. KD5ONS On Sat, 21 May 2011 20:09:48 -0700, Tony Estep estept...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote: ...just to boot it far enough to read the paper tape and then the paper tape would jam... Ah yes! Or how about getting your cards all stacked and ready to try a compile only to drop the whole damn deck and have half of them slide under the filing cabinet. Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Kx3
I don't think its one way or the other. I think both have their place. I must admit though, I was stunned by how big the top end Yaesus are. 73, Doug -- K0DXV On 5/21/2011 9:13 PM, Richard Thorpe wrote: I was shocked by the introduction of the k3x prototype. I hadn't realized that ham radio was going in that direction, eventually a 160-10 iphone? I was encouraged by the Yaesu R5000 big, lots of hobby knobs. I must get with the times, small and portable handheld ip radios, the future. K6CG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Good Evening, There were three sunny days this week. Yippee! Temperature spiked at 65 degree yesterday, the warmest it has been since last year. It was nice to be able to open the windows and let the air flow through. Looks like more sunny days will be coming next week so maybe the wet season is due to end soon. Now that I know where the leaks are I can fix them around my skylight. Seems water can flow uphill because these leaks are nowhere near any seam in the roofing. Propagation was good the few days I was on the air. Unfortunately I grew ill during the latter part of the week and was not able to get on again. Even though CW allows one to work with a very sore throat I thought it better that I slept instead of getting up early for my skeds. I think I have shortened my cold by a few days by doing so. Hopefully tomorrow my ears will not be plugged up so I can hear better. I know yesterday's streaming feed from Dayton was tough to hear. But I was able to get most of what Wayne had to say about his new rig. Looks like a fun gadget. I would like to see the innards though. Seems the K3 got shrunk into a TFR for those of us who like to work from the boonies. If anyone is interested in acting as a relay station on either net please email me. I will turn the net over to you for a few minutes so you can call areas in my skip zone. It sure would prove helpful to those I cannot reach directly. Please join us tomorrow afternoon and evening. 1) Hail signs (first letter or two of the suffix of your call) 2) NCS help (as well as QSP/QNP relay help) Sunday 2200z (Sunday 3 PM PDT) 14050 kHz Monday z (Sunday 5 PM PDT) 7045 kHz Stay well, Kevin. KD5ONS - __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
