[Elecraft] Mush and my toes

[David Windisch]

Hi, all concerned:
For openers, toes are my Tired (68-year) Old Ear S, replete with tinnitus
(you know, constant high-pitched hiss).
In any case, a weak single tone appears to change pitch higher to lower as I
vary its level from subliminal to comfortable, and lower to higher pitch
from comfortable to subliminal.
It occurs in both ears.
Easiest way to attempt replicating this is to use the MON cw tone function
on the K3.
The change I "hear" is not dramatic; best analogue I can think of is a very
slight symmetrical chirp.
Any one else notice this?
Could this syndrome be a contributor to the mush reported by others?
I can not remember when I first noticed this; I do notice it on certain
single musical notes as well.
Brgds,
Dave, N3HE








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Re: [Elecraft] Mush and my toes

[Arie Kleingeld PA3A]

Dave,

I recognise this phenomenon. I can repeat it also.
Whether this has anything to do with the mush discussion, I don't know.

73
Arie PA3A



 > In any case, a weak single tone appears to change pitch higher to 
lower as I vary its level from subliminal to comfortable, and lower to 
higher pitch from comfortable to subliminal. It occurs in both ears.<
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[Elecraft] WTB Four band module for a K1

[Jim Rodenkirch]

Just picked up a K1 (whooo hooo - all excited as I've been wanting one for my
back up rig) and it has two 2 band modules and I want a 160/80 module so
that means I'd have three modules to exchange. If I could find a found band
module that would work mo betta - only need to change modules twice!

Please reply to my home e-mail address if you have a 4 band module that's
excess to your needs.  72, Jim Rodenkirch, K9JWV

rodenkirch_...@msn.com

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[Elecraft] Pileup "markers" [ was Re: Band edge markers]

[drewko]

No. But I would like to be able to define a temporary frequency
segment that the VFO would be restricted to. This would be useful for
split tuning through pileups: finding the current caller to a DX
station or just finding an open spot for oneself. 

One the segment limits were set up you could just turn the VFO knob
without looking at the frequency display and always remain within the
pile. As you hit either end of the temporary segment the frequency
readout would reset to the opposite end of the segment and keep going,
so you wouldn't have to pay any attention to the readout at all; just
turn the knob and listen. A sort of manual scanner.

73,
Drew
AF2Z




On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 14:29:53 -0800, you wrote:

>Anyone else think having band edge markers for the K3 (tone) and for the P3
>(visible marker line) a good idea?
>
> 
>
>73
>
> 
>
>Alan - AC2K
>
>Redmond, WA
>
> 
>
>F.O.C #1851 
>
>F.I.S.T.S. #8063
>
>A1 Ops
>
>CWOps #35
>

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Re: [Elecraft] Pileup "markers" [ was Re: Band edge markers]

[Dale Putnam]

Wonder if it could be a scan without turning the knob, within that "corral" too?

--...   ...--
Dale - WC7S in Wy

> From: drew...@verizon.net
> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 10:54:18 -0500
> Subject: [Elecraft] Pileup "markers" [ was Re:  Band edge markers]
> 
> No. But I would like to be able to define a temporary frequency
> segment that the VFO would be restricted to. This would be useful for
> split tuning through pileups: finding the current caller to a DX
> station or just finding an open spot for oneself. 
> 
> One the segment limits were set up you could just turn the VFO knob
> without looking at the frequency display and always remain within the
> pile. As you hit either end of the temporary segment the frequency
> readout would reset to the opposite end of the segment and keep going,
> so you wouldn't have to pay any attention to the readout at all; just
> turn the knob and listen. A sort of manual scanner.
> 
> 73,
> Drew
> AF2Z
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 14:29:53 -0800, you wrote:
> 
> >Anyone else think having band edge markers for the K3 (tone) and for the P3
> >(visible marker line) a good idea?
> >
> > 
> >
> >73
> >
> > 
> >
> >Alan - AC2K
> >
> >Redmond, WA
> >
> > 
> >
> >F.O.C #1851 
> >
> >F.I.S.T.S. #8063
> >
> >A1 Ops
> >
> >CWOps #35
> >
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Pileup "markers" [ was Re: Band edge markers]

[Mike Fatchett W0MU]

Interesting idea but lots of stations actually operate outside their 
splits or just say up.

On 12/7/11 9:26 AM, Dale Putnam wrote:
> Wonder if it could be a scan without turning the knob, within that "corral" 
> too?
>
> --...   ...--
> Dale - WC7S in Wy
>
>> From: drew...@verizon.net
>> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 10:54:18 -0500
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Pileup "markers" [ was Re:  Band edge markers]
>>
>> No. But I would like to be able to define a temporary frequency
>> segment that the VFO would be restricted to. This would be useful for
>> split tuning through pileups: finding the current caller to a DX
>> station or just finding an open spot for oneself.
>>
>> One the segment limits were set up you could just turn the VFO knob
>> without looking at the frequency display and always remain within the
>> pile. As you hit either end of the temporary segment the frequency
>> readout would reset to the opposite end of the segment and keep going,
>> so you wouldn't have to pay any attention to the readout at all; just
>> turn the knob and listen. A sort of manual scanner.
>>
>> 73,
>> Drew
>> AF2Z
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 14:29:53 -0800, you wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone else think having band edge markers for the K3 (tone) and for the P3
>>> (visible marker line) a good idea?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan - AC2K
>>>
>>> Redmond, WA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> F.O.C #1851
>>>
>>> F.I.S.T.S. #8063
>>>
>>> A1 Ops
>>>
>>> CWOps #35
>>>
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[Elecraft] Transmit Audio

[Richard Thorpe]

Please tell me more about the ability to monitor transmit audio on the P3.  
Thank you.

K6CG
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[Elecraft] Interesting propagation on 15 Meters

[Jim Sheldon]

Propagation was very long on 15 meters a few minutes ago.  Worked Klaus, DK1AX 
in Ludwigsburg, Germany on 15 CW a few minutes ago.  Beam was set to short path 
(39 degrees from Wichita) and with the K3's QRQ QSK, I was actually hearing my 
long path echoes (and Klaus's as well) off the back side of the beam.  It's 
been many years since I've heard that phenomenon.  Looks like the 10 meter 
contest this coming weekend ought to be a feeding frenzy - LOL.

Jim - W0EB
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Re: [Elecraft] Pileup "markers" [ was Re: Band edge markers]

[drewko]

Well, we already have a K3 scanner but it is not much use for tuning
through a pileup. 

I think manual control of the VFO knob is required when looking
through a pileup; it would just be useful to not have to bother
looking at the frequency display all the time and keep reversing
tuning direction of the VFO knob. Especially for those who do the REV
button one-handed pileup navigating without benefit of sub-receiver or
P3.

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 09:26:23 -0700, you wrote:

>
>Wonder if it could be a scan without turning the knob, within that "corral" 
>too?
>
>--...   ...--
>Dale - WC7S in Wy
>
>> From: drew...@verizon.net
>> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 10:54:18 -0500
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Pileup "markers" [ was Re:  Band edge markers]
>> 
>> No. But I would like to be able to define a temporary frequency
>> segment that the VFO would be restricted to. This would be useful for
>> split tuning through pileups: finding the current caller to a DX
>> station or just finding an open spot for oneself. 
>> 
>> One the segment limits were set up you could just turn the VFO knob
>> without looking at the frequency display and always remain within the
>> pile. As you hit either end of the temporary segment the frequency
>> readout would reset to the opposite end of the segment and keep going,
>> so you wouldn't have to pay any attention to the readout at all; just
>> turn the knob and listen. A sort of manual scanner.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Drew
>> AF2Z
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 14:29:53 -0800, you wrote:
>> 
>> >Anyone else think having band edge markers for the K3 (tone) and for the P3
>> >(visible marker line) a good idea?
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> >73
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> >Alan - AC2K
>> >
>> >Redmond, WA
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> >F.O.C #1851 
>> >
>> >F.I.S.T.S. #8063
>> >
>> >A1 Ops
>> >
>> >CWOps #35
>> >
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Mush and my toes

[David Gilbert]

I never knew such a condition existed, and I definitely do not have it.  
I have checked my ears and I don't hear above 10 KHz anymore, but the 
dynamic range still seems fine and I tend to be more observant of weak 
sounds than almost everyone else I know.

Dave   AB7E


On 12/7/2011 5:52 AM, David Windisch wrote:
> Hi, all concerned:
> For openers, toes are my Tired (68-year) Old Ear S, replete with tinnitus
> (you know, constant high-pitched hiss).
> In any case, a weak single tone appears to change pitch higher to lower as I
> vary its level from subliminal to comfortable, and lower to higher pitch
> from comfortable to subliminal.
> It occurs in both ears.
> Easiest way to attempt replicating this is to use the MON cw tone function
> on the K3.
> The change I "hear" is not dramatic; best analogue I can think of is a very
> slight symmetrical chirp.
> Any one else notice this?
> Could this syndrome be a contributor to the mush reported by others?
> I can not remember when I first noticed this; I do notice it on certain
> single musical notes as well.
> Brgds,
> Dave, N3HE
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Transmit Audio

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

If the RS-232 cable is not installed between the P3 and K3 the P3
will not "mute" during transmit and one can see the transmit IF.

Note - this is *not* a transmit RF display as it does not show the
effects of the final mixer, driver and/or final so any IMD/clipping
generated in the final amplifier is not reflected in the display.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 12/7/2011 11:39 AM, Richard Thorpe wrote:
> Please tell me more about the ability to monitor transmit audio on the P3.  
> Thank you.
>
> K6CG
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Re: [Elecraft] Pileup "markers" [ was Re: Band edge markers]

[drewko]

Here is another idea that might be useful in working DX stations in
split: 

LOCKing VFOA could engage a kind of automatic REV function such that
moving the VFOA knob will instantly swich the receiver to VFO-B. It
would automatically revert back to VFO-A when you stop moving the knob
for some user-selectable period of time, say some multiple of 1/10
second.

In operation you would tune in the DX station on VFOA as usual.  
Then select: A>B, SPLIT, LOCK.
Then start turning the VFOA knob again. VFOA is locked so the receiver
instantly reverts to VFOB so you can roam around the pileup looking
for an empty spot or the current QSO. When you stop turning the knob
the receiver reverts back to VFOA after a short delay, ready to
transmit on VFOB.

That would eliminate all of the REV button pushing and one-handed
gymnastics!

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 09:29:02 -0700, Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:

>Interesting idea but lots of stations actually operate outside their 
>splits or just say up.
>

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[Elecraft] K3 Macro Help

[Natale Borghetti]

It is several days.probably I am to oldthat I am trying to have a macro 
doing :

1 put vfo a at Bandwidth 0.40 KHz

2 activate the subrx

3 put the bandwidth of subrx at 2.800 KHz cw

4 split vfo b up 1

Unfortunately my trial fail when I push split the vfo B move BUT also put the 
Bandwidth of subrx at 0.40 KHz.

Any suggestions.or help ???

Thanks in advance 

73




Natale Borghetti

I5NPH

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Re: [Elecraft] Transmit Audio

[ab2tc]

It's also a result of internal leakage paths so I am not sure that it can
even be trusted to be representative of the signal delivered to the output
stages of the transmitter.

AB2TC - Knut


Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote
> 
> If the RS-232 cable is not installed between the P3 and K3 the P3
> will not "mute" during transmit and one can see the transmit IF.
> 
> Note - this is *not* a transmit RF display as it does not show the
> effects of the final mixer, driver and/or final so any IMD/clipping
> generated in the final amplifier is not reflected in the display.
> 
> 73,
> 
> ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - PSK D Split Problem?

[Oliver Johns]

Hi John,

I use the same setup, but have had some issues with rig control of the K3 by 
Fldigi.  What rig control software module do you use in Fldigi?

Tnx es 73,

Oliver Johns
W6ODJ


On Dec 6, 2011, at 10:03 AM, John Ragle wrote:

> This is a show-stopper of a question. I have been running PSK for a 
> number of years, and have never observed anyone running split. With an 
> exceedingly narrow-band mode such as PSK31, it should not be necessary, 
> although occasionally someone will drop down right on top of your 
> offset, either because he can't hear either side of the QSO or because 
> he is being careless. QRM happens. Occasionally one sees people 
> operating with multiple sidebands (an overdrive problem), and 
> occasionally there will be the usual AGC pumping by very strong 
> stations, but normally even at hyperactive times, the 4 kHz or so that 
> PSK operators self-allocate is plenty to accomodate everyone. Sometimes 
> (as in contests, hint hint) RTTY and/or CW operators ride roughshod over 
> PSK.
> 
> I would actually recommend using a separate program (I prefer FLDIGI) 
> for digital methods, as the degree of oversight of the local part of the 
> spectrum is better (unless you are operating with a P3). After a fair 
> amount of floundering around, I have settled on FLDIGI driving a 
> SignaLink USB box into my K3/P3 rig, but this is perhaps a matter of 
> personal preference. I have used this on a K2, a Flex 3000, and the 
> present K3/P3. FLDIGI runs on a very wide variety of platforms (WIN XP, 
> WIN 7, MAC, Linux, etc), and is a very friendly, uncluttered control 
> program. I use it a lot for RTTY as well as PSK31, PSK63 and other 
> digital modes. If FLDIGI is "too fancy," then either DigiPan or Airlink 
> Express work well and require much less computer power. DigiPan works 
> just fine on my netbook. There is other software, but much of it is 
> badly "overgrown" and represents very poor programming practice IMNSHO.
> 
> John Ragle -- W1ZI
> 
> =
> 
> On 12/6/2011 12:22 PM, Ralph K1ZZI wrote:
>> Using PSK D today for the first time ever, I was not able to get split to 
>> work.  After setting both VFO's to PSK, then pushing split resulted in "SPL 
>> N/A" message?  CW, SSB and RTTY always work perfect so I'm wondering what 
>> I'm doing wrong with PSK?  Is split invalid for PSK?  Thanks.
>> 
>> Ralph K1ZZI
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[Elecraft] [K3] P3 command to center display on CW band

[Sverre Holm (LA3ZA)]

Is there a possibility to program a P3 key to center the display on x.025
MHz? 

I prefer to use the P3 in an overview mode with 50 kHz span covering from
e.g. 14.000 to 14.050 and then I zoom in using a span of 10 kHz during a
pile-up. As I go back to 50 kHz span, the center frequency changes to
whatever frequency I happen to be on. What is the easiest way to recenter
the display on 14.025 without using the 'CENTER' function and rotate the
selector until I have the right frequency span?

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Re: [Elecraft] Pileup "markers" [ was Re: Band edge markers]

[n5ge]

Elecraft; Please modify the K3 so I can set it in DX mode and go watch my
favorite TV show while it works DX or contests for me.  That way I wouldn't have
to learn or use any skills, watch the P3, turn the VFO, speak into the mic, send
CW, log contacts, upload my log to eQSL and LOTW or the contest sponsor.

After the event I would be able to have long discussions with the owners of the
other rig brands about how much smarter my K3 was that theirs.   

Could you have this completed before the next contest?  Afterall, it would just
be a firmware change, right?

;-)

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

"If somebody has a bad heart, 
they can plug this jack in at 
night as they go to bed and it 
will monitor their heart 
throughout the night. And the 
next morning, when they wake up 
dead, there'll be a record."

--Mark S. Fowler, FCC Chairman,
  1981 - 1987


On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 10:54:18 -0500, drewko  wrote:

>No. But I would like to be able to define a temporary frequency
>segment that the VFO would be restricted to. This would be useful for
>split tuning through pileups: finding the current caller to a DX
>station or just finding an open spot for oneself. 
>
>One the segment limits were set up you could just turn the VFO knob
>without looking at the frequency display and always remain within the
>pile. As you hit either end of the temporary segment the frequency
>readout would reset to the opposite end of the segment and keep going,
>so you wouldn't have to pay any attention to the readout at all; just
>turn the knob and listen. A sort of manual scanner.
>
>73,
>Drew
>AF2Z
[snip]

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Re: [Elecraft] Transmit Audio

[Alan Bloom]

It's useful for checking your transmit equalization with a specific
voice and microphone.  At N1AL, I discovered that I had way too much
bass so I adjusted the K3's TX equalizer to make it flatter.

As Joe says, it does not include the effects of amplifier distortion.
And as Knut says, the signal level depends on random leakage through the
mixer and PIN diodes, so it varies with band, drive level settings, and
sample-to-sample variation of the particular K3.  There's no guarantee
that there will be enough signal available to be useful.  That's the
main reason I resist making it an "official" feature.

Alan N1AL


On Wed, 2011-12-07 at 09:36 -0800, ab2tc wrote:
> It's also a result of internal leakage paths so I am not sure that it can
> even be trusted to be representative of the signal delivered to the output
> stages of the transmitter.
> 
> AB2TC - Knut
> 
> 
> Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote
> > 
> > If the RS-232 cable is not installed between the P3 and K3 the P3
> > will not "mute" during transmit and one can see the transmit IF.
> > 
> > Note - this is *not* a transmit RF display as it does not show the
> > effects of the final mixer, driver and/or final so any IMD/clipping
> > generated in the final amplifier is not reflected in the display.
> > 
> > 73,
> > 
> > ... Joe, W4TV
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> --
> View this message in context: 
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Re: [Elecraft] Pileup "markers" [ was Re: Band edge markers]

[W0MU Mike Fatchett]

You sir do not have the newest beta firmware release.  Get with the 
times!  :)

Mike W0MU

W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net


On 12/7/2011 11:27 AM, n...@n5ge.com wrote:
> Elecraft; Please modify the K3 so I can set it in DX mode and go watch my
> favorite TV show while it works DX or contests for me.  That way I wouldn't 
> have
> to learn or use any skills, watch the P3, turn the VFO, speak into the mic, 
> send
> CW, log contacts, upload my log to eQSL and LOTW or the contest sponsor.
>
> After the event I would be able to have long discussions with the owners of 
> the
> other rig brands about how much smarter my K3 was that theirs.
>
> Could you have this completed before the next contest?  Afterall, it would 
> just
> be a firmware change, right?
>
> ;-)
>
> 73,
> Tom
> Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
> ARRL Lifetime Member
> QCWA Lifetime Member
>
> "If somebody has a bad heart,
> they can plug this jack in at
> night as they go to bed and it
> will monitor their heart
> throughout the night. And the
> next morning, when they wake up
> dead, there'll be a record."
>
> --Mark S. Fowler, FCC Chairman,
>1981 - 1987
>
>
> On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 10:54:18 -0500, drewko  wrote:
>
>> No. But I would like to be able to define a temporary frequency
>> segment that the VFO would be restricted to. This would be useful for
>> split tuning through pileups: finding the current caller to a DX
>> station or just finding an open spot for oneself.
>>
>> One the segment limits were set up you could just turn the VFO knob
>> without looking at the frequency display and always remain within the
>> pile. As you hit either end of the temporary segment the frequency
>> readout would reset to the opposite end of the segment and keep going,
>> so you wouldn't have to pay any attention to the readout at all; just
>> turn the knob and listen. A sort of manual scanner.
>>
>> 73,
>> Drew
>> AF2Z
> [snip]
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Transmit Audio

[Gary VK4FD]

Alan,

When it does become a usable function of the P3 I am sure you will see a spike 
in sales volume.

Till then I can get along without it.


Gary


VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile
Elecraft Equipment
K3 #679, KPA-500 #018
Living the dream!!!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Bloom 
  To: ab2tc 
  Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 4:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Transmit Audio


  It's useful for checking your transmit equalization with a specific
  voice and microphone.  At N1AL, I discovered that I had way too much
  bass so I adjusted the K3's TX equalizer to make it flatter.

  As Joe says, it does not include the effects of amplifier distortion.
  And as Knut says, the signal level depends on random leakage through the
  mixer and PIN diodes, so it varies with band, drive level settings, and
  sample-to-sample variation of the particular K3.  There's no guarantee
  that there will be enough signal available to be useful.  That's the
  main reason I resist making it an "official" feature.

  Alan N1AL


  On Wed, 2011-12-07 at 09:36 -0800, ab2tc wrote:
  > It's also a result of internal leakage paths so I am not sure that it can
  > even be trusted to be representative of the signal delivered to the output
  > stages of the transmitter.
  > 
  > AB2TC - Knut
  > 
  > 
  > Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote
  > > 
  > > If the RS-232 cable is not installed between the P3 and K3 the P3
  > > will not "mute" during transmit and one can see the transmit IF.
  > > 
  > > Note - this is *not* a transmit RF display as it does not show the
  > > effects of the final mixer, driver and/or final so any IMD/clipping
  > > generated in the final amplifier is not reflected in the display.
  > > 
  > > 73,
  > > 
  > > ... Joe, W4TV
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > 
  > 
  > --
  > View this message in context: 
http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Transmit-Audio-tp7071119p7071354.html
  > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Re: [Elecraft] Pileup "markers" [ was Re: Band edge markers]

[drewko]

Nabbed by the K3 Feature Request Police! 

And an extra citation for "failing to learn any skills"! 

Not my day, I guess...

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:27:42 -0600, you wrote:

>
>Elecraft; Please modify the K3 so I can set it in DX mode and go watch my
>favorite TV show while it works DX or contests for me.  That way I wouldn't 
>have
>to learn or use any skills, watch the P3, turn the VFO, speak into the mic, 
>send
>CW, log contacts, upload my log to eQSL and LOTW or the contest sponsor.
>
>After the event I would be able to have long discussions with the owners of the
>other rig brands about how much smarter my K3 was that theirs.   
>
>Could you have this completed before the next contest?  Afterall, it would just
>be a firmware change, right?
>
>;-)
>
>73,
>Tom
>Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
>ARRL Lifetime Member
>QCWA Lifetime Member
>
>"If somebody has a bad heart, 
>they can plug this jack in at 
>night as they go to bed and it 
>will monitor their heart 
>throughout the night. And the 
>next morning, when they wake up 
>dead, there'll be a record."
>
>--Mark S. Fowler, FCC Chairman,
>  1981 - 1987
>
>

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[Elecraft] Markers, etc.

[Ken G Kopp]

Hark!  I hear the silly police coming!

73! Ken - K0PP
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[Elecraft] KPA500s in stock for immediate shipping

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

KPA500 assembled and kit amplifiers are now in stock and ship within 1 
day of order. We have been working extra hard to get ahead on these so 
that we can get them out for holiday orders.  The quantity is limited, 
so order early (and often ;-)

73, Eric  WA6HHQ

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500s in stock for immediate shipping

[Joe K2UF]

Received KPA-500  # 0576 (kit) on Monday finished on Tuesday Worked Uganda
this afternoon after work.  

I don't suppose that is not a misprint and you meant to say KAT500.  Sure
would look nice sitting next to the K3/P3/KPA500. ;o)

73 Joe K2UF



No trees were harmed in the sending of this e-mail; however, many electrons
were inconvenienced.


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ,
Elecraft
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 3:42 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500s in stock for immediate shipping

KPA500 assembled and kit amplifiers are now in stock and ship within 1 
day of order. We have been working extra hard to get ahead on these so 
that we can get them out for holiday orders.  The quantity is limited, 
so order early (and often ;-)

73, Eric  WA6HHQ

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500s in stock for immediate shipping

[Jim Sheldon]

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500s in stock for immediate shipping

[Jim Sheldon]

(please disregard my last post - my email client keeps switching from plain 
text to HTML for some reason and the text sometimes doesn't get through).

Now that they have all those KPA500's in stock they might have time to finish 
the KAT500's and the KX3's so we can at least order them and get in the queue - 
LOL.
 
Jim - W0EB

> Received KPA-500  # 0576 (kit) on Monday finished on Tuesday Worked
> Uganda
> this afternoon after work.
>
> I don't suppose that is not a misprint and you meant to say KAT500.
> Sure
> would look nice sitting next to the K3/P3/KPA500. ;o)
>
> 73 Joe K2UF
>
>
> No trees were harmed in the sending of this e-mail; however, many
> electrons
> were inconvenienced.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Eric Swartz -
> WA6HHQ,
> Elecraft
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 3:42 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500s in stock for immediate shipping
>
> KPA500 assembled and kit amplifiers are now in stock and ship
> within 1
> day of order. We have been working extra hard to get ahead on these
> so
> that we can get them out for holiday orders.  The quantity is
> limited,
> so order early (and often ;-)
>
> 73, Eric  WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Markers, etc.

[Merv Schweigert]

Silly police heck,   I expect to see some of these names and call
signs in the next Darwin Awards.
I am sure that spark gap days are back,  but no one mentioned the
gap was between the ears.

Merv K9FD/KH6
> Hark!  I hear the silly police coming!
>
> 73! Ken - K0PP
>

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Re: [Elecraft] Pileup "markers" [ was Re: Band edge markers]

[n5ge]

Aaw c'mon Drewco, don't you think it was just a little funny.

No offense meant.  Just having fun.

Happy Holidays!

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

"If somebody has a bad heart, 
they can plug this jack in at 
night as they go to bed and it 
will monitor their heart 
throughout the night. And the 
next morning, when they wake up 
dead, there'll be a record."

--Mark S. Fowler, FCC Chairman,
  1981 - 1987


On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 13:57:24 -0500, drewko  wrote:

>Nabbed by the K3 Feature Request Police! 
>
>And an extra citation for "failing to learn any skills"! 
>
>Not my day, I guess...
>
>73,
>Drew
>AF2Z
>
>
>On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:27:42 -0600, you wrote:
>
>>
>>Elecraft; Please modify the K3 so I can set it in DX mode and go watch my
>>favorite TV show while it works DX or contests for me.  That way I wouldn't 
>>have
>>to learn or use any skills, watch the P3, turn the VFO, speak into the mic, 
>>send
>>CW, log contacts, upload my log to eQSL and LOTW or the contest sponsor.
>>
>>After the event I would be able to have long discussions with the owners of 
>>the
>>other rig brands about how much smarter my K3 was that theirs.   
>>
>>Could you have this completed before the next contest?  Afterall, it would 
>>just
>>be a firmware change, right?
>>
>>;-)
>>
>>73,
>>Tom
>>Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
>>ARRL Lifetime Member
>>QCWA Lifetime Member
>>
>>"If somebody has a bad heart, 
>>they can plug this jack in at 
>>night as they go to bed and it 
>>will monitor their heart 
>>throughout the night. And the 
>>next morning, when they wake up 
>>dead, there'll be a record."
>>
>>--Mark S. Fowler, FCC Chairman,
>>  1981 - 1987
>>
>>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Pileup "markers" [ was Re: Band edge markers]

[drewko]

None taken.

(But it won't be a laughing matter when my REV button wear out...)

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 15:36:02 -0600, you wrote:

>
>Aaw c'mon Drewco, don't you think it was just a little funny.
>
>No offense meant.  Just having fun.
>
>Happy Holidays!
>
>73,
>Tom

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Re: [Elecraft] Pileup "markers" [ was Re: Band edge markers]

[Gary VK4FD]

Some of us Ol Dinosaurs even cracked a smile...:-)

Gary


VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile
Elecraft Equipment
K3 #679, KPA-500 #018
Living the dream!!!

  - Original Message - 
  From: n...@n5ge.com 
  To: drewko 
  Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 7:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Pileup "markers" [ was Re: Band edge markers]



  Aaw c'mon Drewco, don't you think it was just a little funny.

  No offense meant.  Just having fun.

  Happy Holidays!

  73,
  Tom
  Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
  ARRL Lifetime Member
  QCWA Lifetime Member

  "If somebody has a bad heart, 
  they can plug this jack in at 
  night as they go to bed and it 
  will monitor their heart 
  throughout the night. And the 
  next morning, when they wake up 
  dead, there'll be a record."

  --Mark S. Fowler, FCC Chairman,
1981 - 1987


  On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 13:57:24 -0500, drewko  wrote:

  >Nabbed by the K3 Feature Request Police! 
  >
  >And an extra citation for "failing to learn any skills"! 
  >
  >Not my day, I guess...
  >
  >73,
  >Drew
  >AF2Z
  >
  >
  >On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:27:42 -0600, you wrote:
  >
  >>
  >>Elecraft; Please modify the K3 so I can set it in DX mode and go watch my
  >>favorite TV show while it works DX or contests for me.  That way I wouldn't 
have
  >>to learn or use any skills, watch the P3, turn the VFO, speak into the mic, 
send
  >>CW, log contacts, upload my log to eQSL and LOTW or the contest sponsor.
  >>
  >>After the event I would be able to have long discussions with the owners of 
the
  >>other rig brands about how much smarter my K3 was that theirs.   
  >>
  >>Could you have this completed before the next contest?  Afterall, it would 
just
  >>be a firmware change, right?
  >>
  >>;-)
  >>
  >>73,
  >>Tom
  >>Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
  >>ARRL Lifetime Member
  >>QCWA Lifetime Member
  >>
  >>"If somebody has a bad heart, 
  >>they can plug this jack in at 
  >>night as they go to bed and it 
  >>will monitor their heart 
  >>throughout the night. And the 
  >>next morning, when they wake up 
  >>dead, there'll be a record."
  >>
  >>--Mark S. Fowler, FCC Chairman,
  >>  1981 - 1987
  >>
  >>
  >
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[Elecraft] KX3 LO control for 2m XVTR

[Edward R. Cole]

I am about finished converting an older (circa -2004) DEMI 144-28 
transverter for use with my new KX3.  Learning that the K144XV 
automatically switches LO freq. from 116 to 118 MHz when tuning above 
146-MHz, I wonder if that feature will exist for the KX3 and where 
one could access a control line to use external to the KX3.

I will install the new DEMI PLL board when it becomes available to 
accomplish the same LO freq. switching and probably could control it 
with a 5v digital control line. The PLL will likely have multiple 
frequencies (memory locations for programming multiple frequencies).

This project is for the interim until the internal Elecraft 144-28 
MHz transverter becomes available. Actually, I am learning some 
interesting stuff using mmic's and Toshiba power modules.

Ready for the "opening gate" to buy that KX3!!!


73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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Re: [Elecraft] Pileup "markers" [ was Re: Band edge markers]

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

And now its time to close this thread and move back to our regular mayhem..

73,
Eric
List Moderator

www.elecraft.com


On 12/7/2011 1:42 PM, Gary VK4FD wrote:
> Some of us Ol Dinosaurs even cracked a smile...:-)
> Gary
>
>
> VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile
> Elecraft Equipment
> K3 #679, KPA-500 #018
> Living the dream!!!
>
>- Original Message -
>From: n...@n5ge.com
>To: drewko
>Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 7:36 AM
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Pileup "markers" [ was Re: Band edge markers]
>
>Aaw c'mon Drewco, don't you think it was just a little funny.
>No offense meant.  Just having fun.
>
>Happy Holidays!
>
>73,
>Tom
>Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
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Re: [Elecraft] Pileup "markers" [ was Re: Band edge markers]

[Rose]

Yeah, sometimes we're like trying to herd cats ... and keep 'em quiet. (:-)

73! Ken - K0PP

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <
e...@elecraft.com> wrote:

> And now its time to close this thread and move back to our regular mayhem..
>
> 73,
> Eric
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[Elecraft] Gap Hearit Speaker

[Bill Ross]

Hi to the group, 

I have a high noise level, besides living in an antenna restricted home. I 
usually run S5-8 noise on my K3 with the filters adjusted best I can, and 
bandpass >300-500 Hz. Someone has recommended the Gap Hearit Speaker to me as 
being so wonderful. I have been checking into it, and it appears as just 
another DSP and speaker ckt. So, I’m wondering if it would really make any 
difference to me, with the K3 and it’s internal DSP. 

I work mostly CW and due to my indoor antenna, with weak signals.  I also use 
phones mostly, but, I see you can plug them into this unit, so it shouldn’t 
make any difference phones or speaker, right?

Anyone have any experience with this product and can offer any advice, I’d 
appreciate it very much.  

Tnx & 73

Bill, k6mgo
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Re: [Elecraft] Gap Hearit Speaker

[Grant Youngman]

The GAP Hear-it is quite effective on SSB, but not on CW.  I don't use their 
speaker, but do have the Hear-it module.

Th narrower the bandpass, the less effective DSP noise reduction becomes.  For 
CW at narrow bandwidths, you might be better off using the audio passband 
filter (APF) in the K3.

Grant/NQ5T


On Dec 7, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Bill Ross wrote:

> Hi to the group, 
> 
> I have a high noise level, besides living in an antenna restricted home. I 
> usually run S5-8 noise on my K3 with the filters adjusted best I can, and 
> bandpass >300-500 Hz. Someone has recommended the Gap Hearit Speaker to me as 
> being so wonderful. I have been checking into it, and it appears as just 
> another DSP and speaker ckt. So, I’m wondering if it would really make any 
> difference to me, with the K3 and it’s internal DSP. 
> 
> I work mostly CW and due to my indoor antenna, with weak signals.  I also use 
> phones mostly, but, I see you can plug them into this unit, so it shouldn’t 
> make any difference phones or speaker, right?
> 
> Anyone have any experience with this product and can offer any advice, I’d 
> appreciate it very much.  
> 
> Tnx & 73
> 
> Bill, k6mgo
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Re: [Elecraft] Gap Hearit Speaker

[Tim Tucker]

I've used just about every DSP speaker available in my mobile, except
this one.  That said, the Gap speaker uses the BHI DSP module, which I
played with at Dayton and it was quite good compared to other options.
 The two best AF DSP modules I've seen are the West Mountain Radio
Clearspeech and the GAP/BHI.  BTW, I hated the SGC DSP speaker.  I
currently have the Clearspeech in my mobile with an Icom 7000.  I find
that the combination of a little IF DSP (used in the Icom 7000) used
in conjunction with some AF DSP makes for a very powerful NR
combination.

Keep in mind that NR intelligibility is fairly subjective to an
individual ear, so what I find helpful, another person may not like. I
have considered trying a similar combination on my K3 in my noisy home
environment, but haven't gone down that road yet.  I may still do that
unless we get word from Elecraft that a vast NR improvement firmware
update is coming soon.

Tim
AE6LX
www.worldwidedx.com

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Bill Ross  wrote:
> Hi to the group,
>
> I have a high noise level, besides living in an antenna restricted home. I 
> usually run S5-8 noise on my K3 with the filters adjusted best I can, and 
> bandpass >300-500 Hz. Someone has recommended the Gap Hearit Speaker to me as 
> being so wonderful. I have been checking into it, and it appears as just 
> another DSP and speaker ckt. So, I’m wondering if it would really make any 
> difference to me, with the K3 and it’s internal DSP.
>
> I work mostly CW and due to my indoor antenna, with weak signals.  I also use 
> phones mostly, but, I see you can plug them into this unit, so it shouldn’t 
> make any difference phones or speaker, right?
>
> Anyone have any experience with this product and can offer any advice, I’d 
> appreciate it very much.
>
> Tnx & 73
>
> Bill, k6mgo
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[Elecraft] K3-Twin with Remoterig

[D Joyce]

Folks:

Following Eric's announcement last Friday, I setup a K3/10 as the "local" and 
the K3/100 as the "remote" along with a KPA-500, made up the one new E3c keying 
cable for the "remote / radio" site and have been trying things out since 
Monday night.  Still running things over my local LAN, but for the most part 
things work very slick.  I still have some things to configure properly and a 
few settings I don't fully understand.  Perhaps some of those who were able to 
work with the pre-Beta versions for a few weeks would explain a couple of 
things for me.

1.  It's not obvious how the KPA-500 fits into this control system.  In the 
previous (non-twin) approach, I used the KPA-500 Utility through the "free" 
Com1 channel of the RRC-1258 to turn the KPA-500 on / off and to monitor power 
and other performance parameters.  Is it still the intention to use the KPA 
Utility with this new Program mode "14" approach or is there another way?  
Would appreciate some further details.

2. It's not clear how the audio and rf gain settings on the two K3s should be 
set.  Seems that the settings on the "remote" K3 override whatever has been set 
on the "local" K3.  So my settings at the moment are to have rf gain set at 
full CW for both main and sub on both K3s, to have AF gain on the "remote" K3 
set at 12 o'clock for both main and sub and then use the audio controls on the 
"local" K3 for final admjustments.  BTW I'm running the two channels of  AF 
output from the "local" RRC to a pair of Timewave DSP-9+ units which feed 
separate speakers and the line outputs go to an old IBM PIII-600 running XP SP3 
with two instances of MMTTY.

3.  The Microbit setup Mgr v1.10 ( I couldn't get v1.12 to load - a Windows 
problem) sets up four virtual Com ports (see pg 75 of the new rev A17 RRC 
manual) Com 0, 1, 2 and FSK.  I have the new ComFSK port working for FSK keying 
but I'm not sure how to configure for eg DX4Win to make use of Com 0, 1 & 2.  
Further details would be helpful.

Thanks for your time.

73,  Doug  VE3MV



  
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Re: [Elecraft] Markers, etc.

[Fred Jensen]

On 12/7/2011 1:20 PM, Merv Schweigert wrote:

> I am sure that spark gap days are back,  but no one mentioned the
> gap was between the ears.

Well, actually yes.  I have a couple of Coast Guard friends from 
Vietnam, and awhile back, one of them pointed me to a LORAN-C upgrade at 
some of the stations.  The previous equipment was sort of standard 
OSC->PA architecture using BIG tubes.  Many ran in the half-MW range, 
the station at George WA was originally 1.6 MW.  After the "upgrade" it 
was running 1.2 MW.

The upgrade replaced the TX with an Accufix TX from Megapulse.  No 
tubes, no oscillators, no solid state amplifiers.  A bank of SCR's 
discharged a large capacitor bank into a resonant circuit coupled to the 
antenna.  [sound familiar?]  Other than a large adjoining room filled 
with very high-tech control equipment, cesium clocks, and bunches of 
software, it was basically a 1.2 megawatt, well controlled spark gap. 
After the properly shaped pulse was formed, the rest of the damped wave 
was eliminated by a circuit aptly named The Tail Biter.  Since the 
antenna was part of the resonant circuit, the control circuitry included 
an auto tuner that compensated for real-time antenna variations.

LORAN-C was shut down a couple of years ago, but some of the antennas 
remain [mainly top-loaded monopoles].  I wonder if a KAT500 would be 
able to load one on 160m?

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org


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[Elecraft] Dear Santa

[Don Putnick]

Dear Santa,
 
I sure would like one of those new Elecraft KCR-1 Cognitive Radios.
 
Don NA6Z
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Re: [Elecraft] Markers, etc.

[riese-k3djc]

WOW I would have loved to have seen that
once that power was produced how did they keep it on frequency,,, or was
it just
there but timed in sync wth everyone else,, I can see how it was turened
on / off 
in time but not to keep on freqency

wild

Bob

On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 15:43:23 -0800 Fred Jensen 
writes:
> On 12/7/2011 1:20 PM, Merv Schweigert wrote:
> 
> > I am sure that spark gap days are back,  but no one mentioned the
> > gap was between the ears.
> 
> Well, actually yes.  I have a couple of Coast Guard friends from 
> Vietnam, and awhile back, one of them pointed me to a LORAN-C 
> upgrade at 
> some of the stations.  The previous equipment was sort of standard 
> OSC->PA architecture using BIG tubes.  Many ran in the half-MW 
> range, 
> the station at George WA was originally 1.6 MW.  After the "upgrade" 
> it 
> was running 1.2 MW.
> 
> The upgrade replaced the TX with an Accufix TX from Megapulse.  No 
> tubes, no oscillators, no solid state amplifiers.  A bank of SCR's 
> discharged a large capacitor bank into a resonant circuit coupled to 
> the 
> antenna.  [sound familiar?]  Other than a large adjoining room 
> filled 
> with very high-tech control equipment, cesium clocks, and bunches of 
> 
> software, it was basically a 1.2 megawatt, well controlled spark 
> gap. 
> After the properly shaped pulse was formed, the rest of the damped 
> wave 
> was eliminated by a circuit aptly named The Tail Biter.  Since the 
> antenna was part of the resonant circuit, the control circuitry 
> included 
> an auto tuner that compensated for real-time antenna variations.
> 
> LORAN-C was shut down a couple of years ago, but some of the 
> antennas 
> remain [mainly top-loaded monopoles].  I wonder if a KAT500 would be 
> 
> able to load one on 160m?
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
> - www.cqp.org
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] Keeping with the Santa theme

[Joe K2UF]

I would like to thank all the elves at Elecraft including Stephanie Susan
and Leony who packed all those parts including itty bitty screws nuts and
washers in those little yellow envelopes.

Thank you for KPA500 #0576.

Enjoy the holiday season

Joe  K2UF

No trees were harmed in the sending of this e-mail; however, many electrons
were inconvenienced.



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[Elecraft] KAT500 update

[Wayne Burdick]

We originally had two antenna jacks on the KAT500, with one of them  
switchable between balanced and unbalanced.

Recently we decided that a third antenna jack would provide greater  
utility overall. (In my case, I'll be keeping a dummy load on the  
third jack.) All three jacks will be unbalanced (SO239).

We're hoping to add a high-power, high-performance balun to our  
product line sometime next year that will serve the needs of those  
using balanced lines.

73,
Wayne
N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] KAT500 update

[Wayne Burdick]

I have a full-color illustration showing how the reworked front/rear  
panels (supporting the third antenna jack) will look when they come in  
in a few weeks.

I'll see about posting that.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



On Dec 7, 2011, at 5:39 PM, mstang...@comcast.net wrote:

> Wayne,
>
> When will the KAT500 be available for purchase. Do you have any  
> documentation?
>
> 73,
>
> Mike N2MS
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Wayne Burdick 
> To: Elecraft Reflector 
> Cc: Elecraft K3 
> Sent: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 01:22:16 - (UTC)
> Subject: [Elecraft_K3] KAT500 update
>
> We originally had two antenna jacks on the KAT500, with one of them
> switchable between balanced and unbalanced.
>
> Recently we decided that a third antenna jack would provide greater
> utility overall. (In my case, I'll be keeping a dummy load on the
> third jack.) All three jacks will be unbalanced (SO239).
>
> We're hoping to add a high-power, high-performance balun to our
> product line sometime next year that will serve the needs of those
> using balanced lines.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Mic Connector

[Wayne Burdick]

Hi Eugene,

RX audio is not available on the mic jack, but it is available on the  
PHONES jack which is 1" (16 micro-miles) away. It would be a simple  
matter to make a small adapter cable to go from the MIC and PHONES  
jacks to a speaker mic.

However: If the speaker mic has a passive (unamplified) speaker, there  
will be a definite limit to how much audio you can get out of it. The  
headphone jack is intended to drive headphones, aux AF inputs in  
vehicles, or powered speakers.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Dec 6, 2011, at 7:34 PM, Eugene Balinski wrote:

> All,
>
>   Any ideas if receive audio will be available on the KX3
> mic connector so one could use a speaker-microphone or
> possibly an adapted handset ?
>
> 73
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Gap Hearit Speaker

[David Elliott]

If you have a high noise level, you might try the Pixel Loop (38 inches).  

http://www.pixelsatradio.com/product/shortwave-magnetic-loop-antenna/

This is very effective at reducing noise and interfaces well to the K3 thru the 
RX ant.

73 de W6BK


On Dec 7, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Bill Ross wrote:

> Hi to the group, 
> 
> I have a high noise level, besides living in an antenna restricted home. I 
> usually run S5-8 noise on my K3 with the filters adjusted best I can, and 
> bandpass >300-500 Hz. Someone has recommended the Gap Hearit Speaker to me as 
> being so wonderful. I have been checking into it, and it appears as just 
> another DSP and speaker ckt. So, I’m wondering if it would really make any 
> difference to me, with the K3 and it’s internal DSP. 
> 
> I work mostly CW and due to my indoor antenna, with weak signals.  I also use 
> phones mostly, but, I see you can plug them into this unit, so it shouldn’t 
> make any difference phones or speaker, right?
> 
> Anyone have any experience with this product and can offer any advice, I’d 
> appreciate it very much.  
> 
> Tnx & 73
> 
> Bill, k6mgo
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[Elecraft] Elecraft] KAT500 update

[Toby Pennington]

I was hoping for a third SO 239 instead of a connection for an unbalanced 
antenna. 

Using only coax here.Toby  W4CAK
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[Elecraft] Rusting screws

[W0MU Mike Fatchett]

Nearly all my case screws on my K3 and KPA 500 are showing signs of rust 
after being in Saint Lucia for just 11 days.   Mother nature is 
relentless down there!

-- 
Mike W0MU

W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] KAT500 update

[Augie "Gus" Hansen]

On 12/7/2011 10:08 PM, Toby Pennington wrote:
> I was hoping for a third SO 239 instead of a connection for an unbalanced 
> antenna.
>
> Using only coax here.

Wayne said "All three jacks will be unbalanced (SO239)."

Sounds to me that you got what you wished for. Coax connections are 
unbalanced. What's not happening is a balanced connection on the 
tuner. That will be done outside the box via an external balun.

Gus Hansen
KB0YH

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Re: [Elecraft] Rusting screws

[Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF]

Hi Mike, thanks for bringing this up

This is a problem that I thought that I would have here in Tropical North 
Queensland so I spent the extra few dollars and had my K3 built with the SS 
Screw kit by the factory.

I'm so glad I did, no unsightly rusty screws to be seen anywhere even though 
my gear lives in a moist tropical, seaside environment.

Now, if Elecraft would offer a similar SS Screw option for both the P3 and 
KPA500 (as well as the up and coming KAT500 and the KX3) then we'd all be on 
a winner.

How about it Wayne & Eric, we'd like SS screw kits for the P3, KPA500, 
KAT500 & KX3 please.


73 de
Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF
East Innisfail
QLD, Australia
K3 #4257, P3#1629, KPA-500 #161

- Original Message - 
From: "W0MU Mike Fatchett" 
To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Rusting screws


> Nearly all my case screws on my K3 and KPA 500 are showing signs of rust
> after being in Saint Lucia for just 11 days.   Mother nature is
> relentless down there!
>
> -- 
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>
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Re: [Elecraft] Rusting screws

[Gary VK4FD]

My rusty screws look OKnow where is that Black Crayon I use daily...:-)

Gary


VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile
Elecraft Equipment
K3 #679, KPA-500 #018
Living the dream!!!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF 
  To: W0MU Mike Fatchett ; Elecraft Reflector 
  Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 4:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Rusting screws


  Hi Mike, thanks for bringing this up

  This is a problem that I thought that I would have here in Tropical North 
  Queensland so I spent the extra few dollars and had my K3 built with the SS 
  Screw kit by the factory.

  I'm so glad I did, no unsightly rusty screws to be seen anywhere even though 
  my gear lives in a moist tropical, seaside environment.

  Now, if Elecraft would offer a similar SS Screw option for both the P3 and 
  KPA500 (as well as the up and coming KAT500 and the KX3) then we'd all be on 
  a winner.

  How about it Wayne & Eric, we'd like SS screw kits for the P3, KPA500, 
  KAT500 & KX3 please.


  73 de
  Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF
  East Innisfail
  QLD, Australia
  K3 #4257, P3#1629, KPA-500 #161

  - Original Message - 
  From: "W0MU Mike Fatchett" 
  To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
  Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 3:19 PM
  Subject: [Elecraft] Rusting screws


  > Nearly all my case screws on my K3 and KPA 500 are showing signs of rust
  > after being in Saint Lucia for just 11 days.   Mother nature is
  > relentless down there!
  >
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-Twin with Remoterig

[Mitch Wolfson DJØQN]

Doug,

You and anyone else having specific Elecraft Twin questions should post 
your questions directly on the Microbit (RemoteRig) forum at:


to answer question 2: The remote K3 becomes your local K3. You are 
essentially using the local one only as a control panel for the remote 
K3, so of course the audio and other settings will be that of the remote 
K3.

to answer question 3: You will find the directions on page 167 of the 
latest RemoteRig manual at 
If you have any further questions, just post a message on their forum, 
or drop me a note and I can help you directly.

73,
Mitch DJ0QN

On 08.12.2011 00:30, D Joyce wrote:
> Folks:
>
> Following Eric's announcement last Friday, I setup a K3/10 as the "local" and 
> the K3/100 as the "remote" along with a KPA-500, made up the one new E3c 
> keying cable for the "remote / radio" site and have been trying things out 
> since Monday night.  Still running things over my local LAN, but for the most 
> part things work very slick.  I still have some things to configure properly 
> and a few settings I don't fully understand.  Perhaps some of those who were 
> able to work with the pre-Beta versions for a few weeks would explain a 
> couple of things for me.
>
> 1.  It's not obvious how the KPA-500 fits into this control system.  In the 
> previous (non-twin) approach, I used the KPA-500 Utility through the "free" 
> Com1 channel of the RRC-1258 to turn the KPA-500 on / off and to monitor 
> power and other performance parameters.  Is it still the intention to use the 
> KPA Utility with this new Program mode "14" approach or is there another way? 
>  Would appreciate some further details.
>
> 2. It's not clear how the audio and rf gain settings on the two K3s should be 
> set.  Seems that the settings on the "remote" K3 override whatever has been 
> set on the "local" K3.  So my settings at the moment are to have rf gain set 
> at full CW for both main and sub on both K3s, to have AF gain on the "remote" 
> K3 set at 12 o'clock for both main and sub and then use the audio controls on 
> the "local" K3 for final admjustments.  BTW I'm running the two channels of  
> AF output from the "local" RRC to a pair of Timewave DSP-9+ units which feed 
> separate speakers and the line outputs go to an old IBM PIII-600 running XP 
> SP3 with two instances of MMTTY.
>
> 3.  The Microbit setup Mgr v1.10 ( I couldn't get v1.12 to load - a Windows 
> problem) sets up four virtual Com ports (see pg 75 of the new rev A17 RRC 
> manual) Com 0, 1, 2 and FSK.  I have the new ComFSK port working for FSK 
> keying but I'm not sure how to configure for eg DX4Win to make use of Com 0, 
> 1&  2.  Further details would be helpful.
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> 73,  Doug  VE3MV
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Rusting screws

[Rick Bates]

I agree and used the SS on the K3 kit because I knew that the rig would go
seaside and to Hawaii a few times.  Not available for the P3 or KPA500.

My suggestion is to simply send out ONLY SS screws (even if US$15 more) and
it becomes a non-issue.  All kits/builds, all metal screws, all stainless.
Simpler to stock too.

Rick WA6NHC

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF

Now, if Elecraft would offer a similar SS Screw option for both the P3 and 
KPA500 (as well as the up and coming KAT500 and the KX3) then we'd all be on

a winner.

How about it Wayne & Eric, we'd like SS screw kits for the P3, KPA500, 
KAT500 & KX3 please.


73 de
Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF
East Innisfail
QLD, Australia
K3 #4257, P3#1629, KPA-500 #161

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] KAT500 update

[n5ge]

Very glad to hear that...

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

"If somebody has a bad heart, 
they can plug this jack in at 
night as they go to bed and it 
will monitor their heart 
throughout the night. And the 
next morning, when they wake up 
dead, there'll be a record."

--Mark S. Fowler, FCC Chairman,
  1981 - 1987


On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 22:29:37 -0700, "Augie \"Gus\" Hansen"
 wrote:

>On 12/7/2011 10:08 PM, Toby Pennington wrote:
>> I was hoping for a third SO 239 instead of a connection for an unbalanced 
>> antenna.
>>
>> Using only coax here.
>
>Wayne said "All three jacks will be unbalanced (SO239)."
>
>Sounds to me that you got what you wished for. Coax connections are 
>unbalanced. What's not happening is a balanced connection on the 
>tuner. That will be done outside the box via an external balun.
>
>Gus Hansen
>KB0YH
[snip]

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 update

[n5ge]

Excelent, Wayne and yahoo on the dummy load connection.  Thanks.

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

"If somebody has a bad heart, 
they can plug this jack in at 
night as they go to bed and it 
will monitor their heart 
throughout the night. And the 
next morning, when they wake up 
dead, there'll be a record."

--Mark S. Fowler, FCC Chairman,
  1981 - 1987


On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 17:22:16 -0800, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

>We originally had two antenna jacks on the KAT500, with one of them  
>switchable between balanced and unbalanced.
>
>Recently we decided that a third antenna jack would provide greater  
>utility overall. (In my case, I'll be keeping a dummy load on the  
>third jack.) All three jacks will be unbalanced (SO239).
>
>We're hoping to add a high-power, high-performance balun to our  
>product line sometime next year that will serve the needs of those  
>using balanced lines.
>
>73,
>Wayne
>N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-Twin with Remoterig

[Gary VK4FD]

Liked it better when it had a balanced line connection as part of the unit.

There are plenty of 4:1 Baluins on the market already.

Without knowing what this Auto-Tuner will do it is indeed hard to judge whether 
it will be a product that rates a "Must Have" over "just another ATU"


YMMV

Gary


VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile
Elecraft Equipment
K3 #679, KPA-500 #018
Living the dream!!!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mitch Wolfson DJØQN 
  To: D Joyce 
  Cc: Elecraft List 
  Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 5:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-Twin with Remoterig


  Doug,

  You and anyone else having specific Elecraft Twin questions should post 
  your questions directly on the Microbit (RemoteRig) forum at:
  

  to answer question 2: The remote K3 becomes your local K3. You are 
  essentially using the local one only as a control panel for the remote 
  K3, so of course the audio and other settings will be that of the remote 
  K3.

  to answer question 3: You will find the directions on page 167 of the 
  latest RemoteRig manual at 
  If you have any further questions, just post a message on their forum, 
  or drop me a note and I can help you directly.

  73,
  Mitch DJ0QN

  On 08.12.2011 00:30, D Joyce wrote:
  > Folks:
  >
  > Following Eric's announcement last Friday, I setup a K3/10 as the "local" 
and the K3/100 as the "remote" along with a KPA-500, made up the one new E3c 
keying cable for the "remote / radio" site and have been trying things out 
since Monday night.  Still running things over my local LAN, but for the most 
part things work very slick.  I still have some things to configure properly 
and a few settings I don't fully understand.  Perhaps some of those who were 
able to work with the pre-Beta versions for a few weeks would explain a couple 
of things for me.
  >
  > 1.  It's not obvious how the KPA-500 fits into this control system.  In the 
previous (non-twin) approach, I used the KPA-500 Utility through the "free" 
Com1 channel of the RRC-1258 to turn the KPA-500 on / off and to monitor power 
and other performance parameters.  Is it still the intention to use the KPA 
Utility with this new Program mode "14" approach or is there another way?  
Would appreciate some further details.
  >
  > 2. It's not clear how the audio and rf gain settings on the two K3s should 
be set.  Seems that the settings on the "remote" K3 override whatever has been 
set on the "local" K3.  So my settings at the moment are to have rf gain set at 
full CW for both main and sub on both K3s, to have AF gain on the "remote" K3 
set at 12 o'clock for both main and sub and then use the audio controls on the 
"local" K3 for final admjustments.  BTW I'm running the two channels of  AF 
output from the "local" RRC to a pair of Timewave DSP-9+ units which feed 
separate speakers and the line outputs go to an old IBM PIII-600 running XP SP3 
with two instances of MMTTY.
  >
  > 3.  The Microbit setup Mgr v1.10 ( I couldn't get v1.12 to load - a Windows 
problem) sets up four virtual Com ports (see pg 75 of the new rev A17 RRC 
manual) Com 0, 1, 2 and FSK.  I have the new ComFSK port working for FSK keying 
but I'm not sure how to configure for eg DX4Win to make use of Com 0, 1&  2.  
Further details would be helpful.
  >
  > Thanks for your time.
  >
  > 73,  Doug  VE3MV
  >
  >
  >
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Re: [Elecraft] Rusting screws

[Gary VK4FD]

Elecraft should just cost all equipment usiing the SS screws and get over it 
and move on.

The painted screws simply demean the appearance of the equipment and it looks 
pretty awful I reckon.

Enuff said..SS screws on all products PLEASE?

He climbs slowly down off his box and heads towards the dungeon screeming 
incoming.:-)

Gary


VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile
Elecraft Equipment
K3 #679, KPA-500 #018
Living the dream!!!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick Bates 
  To: 'Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF' ; 'Elecraft' 
  Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 4:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Rusting screws


  I agree and used the SS on the K3 kit because I knew that the rig would go
  seaside and to Hawaii a few times.  Not available for the P3 or KPA500.

  My suggestion is to simply send out ONLY SS screws (even if US$15 more) and
  it becomes a non-issue.  All kits/builds, all metal screws, all stainless.
  Simpler to stock too.

  Rick WA6NHC

  -Original Message-
  From: Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF

  Now, if Elecraft would offer a similar SS Screw option for both the P3 and 
  KPA500 (as well as the up and coming KAT500 and the KX3) then we'd all be on

  a winner.

  How about it Wayne & Eric, we'd like SS screw kits for the P3, KPA500, 
  KAT500 & KX3 please.


  73 de
  Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF
  East Innisfail
  QLD, Australia
  K3 #4257, P3#1629, KPA-500 #161

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