Re: [Elecraft] How is handkey plug wired for KX-1?

2011-12-19 Thread Wayne Burdick 
Not yet, at least.

Wayne

On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:21 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Paul,
>
> Yes, you cannot record CW messages on any Elecraft product from a
> straight key - you must use the paddles.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 12/20/2011 12:01 AM, k7nhb wrote:
>> By "48 character display" I meant the 48 characters on the KX1's  
>> LED display
>> that the KX1 counts down from as cw characters are recorded in one  
>> of the
>> two memory buffers.
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] How is handkey plug wired for KX-1?

2011-12-19 Thread Phil Hystad 
Sorry, I should have read more closely.  I thought this was KX3 question.


On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:35 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> The question is about the KX1 for which no KX1 Utility program is available, 
> so you must use the paddle to input the CW messages.   The K3 and KX3 will 
> have added functionality from K3 (and KX3) Utility.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 12/20/2011 12:21 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
>> Wayne,
>> 
>> As an option, is it possible to store a "recorded" CW message via download 
>> from the KX3 utility program?  Not as flexible as the portable use of a 
>> keyer but it should be able to be an alternative.
>> 
>> 73, phil, K7PEH
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:09 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> 
>>> k7nhb wrote:
>>> 
 I see at the top of page 66 it says, "CW messages can only be recorded
 using the KX1's internal Keyer." That apparently implies you must
 use a
 paddle to record. You cannot use a straight key
 
 If someone knows for sure, please confirm that you cannot record
 messages to
 the KX1's memory with a straight key.
>>> Hi Paul,
>>> 
>>> That is correct.
>>> 
>>> Decoding from Morse sent via the internal keyer was pretty easy, since
>>> the KX1 itself determines the length of dots/dashes/spaces in that
>>> case. We would like to have included message entry via a hand key or
>>> external keyer, but we sorta used up all the code space ;)
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] How is handkey plug wired for KX-1?

2011-12-19 Thread Don Wilhelm 
The question is about the KX1 for which no KX1 Utility program is 
available, so you must use the paddle to input the CW messages.   The K3 
and KX3 will have added functionality from K3 (and KX3) Utility.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/20/2011 12:21 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
> Wayne,
>
> As an option, is it possible to store a "recorded" CW message via download 
> from the KX3 utility program?  Not as flexible as the portable use of a keyer 
> but it should be able to be an alternative.
>
> 73, phil, K7PEH
>
>
> On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:09 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>
>> k7nhb wrote:
>>
>>> I see at the top of page 66 it says, "CW messages can only be recorded
>>> using the KX1's internal Keyer." That apparently implies you must
>>> use a
>>> paddle to record. You cannot use a straight key
>>>
>>> If someone knows for sure, please confirm that you cannot record
>>> messages to
>>> the KX1's memory with a straight key.
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> That is correct.
>>
>> Decoding from Morse sent via the internal keyer was pretty easy, since
>> the KX1 itself determines the length of dots/dashes/spaces in that
>> case. We would like to have included message entry via a hand key or
>> external keyer, but we sorta used up all the code space ;)
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] How is handkey plug wired for KX-1?

2011-12-19 Thread Phil Hystad 
Wayne,

As an option, is it possible to store a "recorded" CW message via download from 
the KX3 utility program?  Not as flexible as the portable use of a keyer but it 
should be able to be an alternative.

73, phil, K7PEH


On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:09 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> k7nhb wrote:
> 
>> I see at the top of page 66 it says, "CW messages can only be recorded
>> using the KX1's internal Keyer." That apparently implies you must  
>> use a
>> paddle to record. You cannot use a straight key
>> 
>> If someone knows for sure, please confirm that you cannot record  
>> messages to
>> the KX1's memory with a straight key.
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> That is correct.
> 
> Decoding from Morse sent via the internal keyer was pretty easy, since  
> the KX1 itself determines the length of dots/dashes/spaces in that  
> case. We would like to have included message entry via a hand key or  
> external keyer, but we sorta used up all the code space ;)
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] How is handkey plug wired for KX-1?

2011-12-19 Thread Don Wilhelm 
Paul,

Yes, you cannot record CW messages on any Elecraft product from a 
straight key - you must use the paddles.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/20/2011 12:01 AM, k7nhb wrote:
> By "48 character display" I meant the 48 characters on the KX1's LED display
> that the KX1 counts down from as cw characters are recorded in one of the
> two memory buffers.
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Re: [Elecraft] How is handkey plug wired for KX-1?

2011-12-19 Thread Wayne Burdick 
k7nhb wrote:

> I see at the top of page 66 it says, "CW messages can only be recorded
> using the KX1's internal Keyer." That apparently implies you must  
> use a
> paddle to record. You cannot use a straight key
>
> If someone knows for sure, please confirm that you cannot record  
> messages to
> the KX1's memory with a straight key.

Hi Paul,

That is correct.

Decoding from Morse sent via the internal keyer was pretty easy, since  
the KX1 itself determines the length of dots/dashes/spaces in that  
case. We would like to have included message entry via a hand key or  
external keyer, but we sorta used up all the code space ;)

73,
Wayne
N6KR




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Re: [Elecraft] How is handkey plug wired for KX-1?

2011-12-19 Thread k7nhb 
By "48 character display" I meant the 48 characters on the KX1's LED display
that the KX1 counts down from as cw characters are recorded in one of the
two memory buffers.

I see at the top of page 66 it says, " CW messages can only be recorded
using the KX1's internal Keyer." That apparently implies you must use a
paddle to record. You cannot use a straight key. I did plug in a paddle and
change input to Hnd as suggested. The KX1 would sound out the cw on the dot
side of the paddle but would not record.  The same with CWtype. the KX1
would sound out the CW from it too, but not record.

So you can send with a straight key but you cannot record with a straight
key. How simple if they would have said that. It's too bad too - because if
you have messages stored in another keyer, you can't transfer them by simply
playing the message from the external keyer to the KX1 (I'm guessing the
same is true of the K1) via the input = Hnd setting.

If someone knows for sure, please confirm that you cannot record messages to
the KX1's memory with a straight key.

This came up because I was trying to put a message in by hand and knowing it
was being recorded, I wanted it to be perfect in characters and timing. I
kept making a mistake doing it with my paddle. I have more years with a
straight key and programs like CWType and an old Datang cw keyboard - but
apparently they won't help.

73,
Paul


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 in a CW pileup

2011-12-19 Thread Dave Hachadorian 
Thanks to VE3KI, here is an easier procedure than the one I 
posted a little while ago.

If you are on the receiving end of a CW pileup, with several loud
signals, it becomes difficult to separate them because the K3's
AGC compresses them together.  You have to reach over and reduce
the RF gain to get everybody back on the linear part of the gain
curve.

You can very quickly reduce RF gain by hitting an F-Key on your
logging program.  N1MM Logger is used as an example, but other
loggers can send commands too.

The command RG100;  sets the K3's RF gain at 100.  It can be any
number from 000 to 255.  In N1MM, this is implemented by the
macro
{CAT1ASC RG100;}

You can put that macro in F-Key F12, or wherever, and press the
button if loud pileup shows up. That macro is for rig 1.  Rig 2
would be the same, except use CAT2ASC.

After you work the loud guy, reach over and twiddle the RF gain
control on the K3 a little bit to restore RF gain to its previous
setting.  You have plenty of time to do this while the "thank
you" message is playing.

I tried this method in the 160 contest Saturday, and it seemed to
work pretty well.

You can also use this method with AGC OFF, to keep loud signals
out of the AF Limiter.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-19 Thread Don Wilhelm 
The P3 current display will remain as-is.  The SVGA option will allow 
those who have been requesting a larger display screen to have their 
requests.  If you are satisfied with the current P3 display, nothing 
will be changed.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/19/2011 11:10 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
> I hope that is only an option for those who want it.  I think the current P3 
> display is just the right size.  I would rather not have to have yet another 
> display screen on my desk.
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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-19 Thread Phil Hystad 
I hope that is only an option for those who want it.  I think the current P3 
display is just the right size.  I would rather not have to have yet another 
display screen on my desk.


On Dec 19, 2011, at 6:52 PM, Ron Leech wrote:

> Now that every one has had a say on the P3SVGA I would like to see 
> Elecraft put the P3 inside the same box as the new tuner and only have a 
> monitor of our choosing that way we could place the tuner on top of the 
> P3 and it would be the same height and all would look more matching
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 in a CW pileup

2011-12-19 Thread Richard Ferch 
Dave,

A simpler way to do this would be {CAT1ASC RG100;} (no ASCII-to-hex 
conversion required).

73,
Rich VE3KI


K6LL wrote:

> The command RG100;  sets the K3's RF gain at 100.  It can be any
> number from 000 to 255.  In N1MM, this is implemented by the
> macro
> {cat1hex 52 47 31 30 30 3b}
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[Elecraft] K3 in a CW pileup

2011-12-19 Thread Dave Hachadorian 
If you are on the receiving end of a CW pileup, with several loud 
signals, it becomes difficult to separate them because the K3's 
AGC compresses them together.  You have to reach over and reduce 
the RF gain to get everybody back on the linear part of the gain 
curve.

You can very quickly reduce RF gain by hitting an F-Key on your 
logging program.  N1MM Logger is used as an example, but other 
loggers can send commands too.

The command RG100;  sets the K3's RF gain at 100.  It can be any 
number from 000 to 255.  In N1MM, this is implemented by the 
macro
{cat1hex 52 47 31 30 30 3b}

You can put that macro in F-Key F12, or wherever, and press the 
button if loud pileup shows up. That macro is for rig 1.  Rig 2 
would be the same, except use cat2hex.

After you work the loud guy, reach over and twiddle the RF gain 
control on the K3 a little bit to restore RF gain to its previous 
setting.  You have plenty of time to do this while the "thank 
you" message is playing.

If you don't like RG100, you can choose your own preferred value. 
Here is the relevant character/hex table:
R=52
G=47
;=3b
0=30
1=31
2=32
...
9=39

I tried this method in the 160 contest Saturday, and it seemed to 
work pretty well.

You can also use this method with AGC OFF, to keep loud signals 
out of the AF Limiter.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ






































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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-19 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 
I like this idea, although I think he meant "on top of the K3" vice "... 
P3".

73, doug


On 20-Dec-11 02:52, Ron Leech wrote:
> Now that every one has had a say on the P3SVGA I would like to see
> Elecraft put the P3 inside the same box as the new tuner and only have a
> monitor of our choosing that way we could place the tuner on top of the
> P3 and it would be the same height and all would look more matching
>
> Ron ve7nex
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[Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-19 Thread Ron Leech 
Now that every one has had a say on the P3SVGA I would like to see 
Elecraft put the P3 inside the same box as the new tuner and only have a 
monitor of our choosing that way we could place the tuner on top of the 
P3 and it would be the same height and all would look more matching

Ron ve7nex

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 12 v ERR

2011-12-19 Thread Ralph Parker 
This was covered a week or so ago.
The easy way (I did it):
Contact K3 support - they will send you pictures of an easy workaround
using four short wires, bypassing the tarnished connectors between the
motherboard and the PA module.

Ralph, VE7XF

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 Heat Expansion Pop

2011-12-19 Thread John_N1JM 
My KPA500 kit that came about a week ago, came with 1/4" 4-40 screws for the
Z bracket that should correct the popping.

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Re: [Elecraft] Searching the reflector archives

2011-12-19 Thread kevinr 
Do any of those archives go back into the year 2000?
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Re: [Elecraft] Searching the reflector archives

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[Elecraft] Elecraft Users Group

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[Elecraft] K1 For Sale

2011-12-19 Thread John Dziedziejko 
I have a K1 serial #1149 with the 4 band module for 40, 30, 20 and 17
meters. Includes the noise blanker, backlight mod and tilt stand. Excellent
Condition.

Asking $430.00 includes shipping.

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[Elecraft] Monitor output on P3

2011-12-19 Thread Joe Word 
Can we change the refresh rate that is sent to the monitor? The
default is 60 Hz on most video cards, but some people (me) can not use
a monitor at 60 Hz, it has to be 70 Hz or above.

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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-19 Thread Fred Jensen 
Hi all,

This discussion has gone off-list so photos can be exchanged.  If you're 
interested in participating, drop me an email and I'll add you to the ad 
hoc list.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org

On 12/18/2011 7:14 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> I recall your thread, Fred.

The thread regarding how WWV looks on the P3
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 MARS firmware pgm

2011-12-19 Thread David Windisch 
Post above was meant as private email; it should have been sent to
supp...@elecraft.com in any case.
Brgds,
Dave, N3HE

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 VGA output [monitor resolution thread closed]

2011-12-19 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft 
Fortunately displaying the SVGA's output works well on non-native 
resolution monitors with the P3's data.  The blurring at non-native 
resolutions usually is most apparent on small text and photos on PCs. In 
the case of the P3, our text is much larger than that and the spectral 
data looks great on non-native resolution monitors. We've tested this 
with a number of monitors whose native resolution is different than the 
resolution put out by the P3-SVGA adapter. It looks great.

That said, we plan add several additional monitor resolutions to the 
core three currently supported. Also, this is firmware downloadable, so 
if we find another resolution that is really needed, we can add it at 
any time. (Thought it takes a new FPGA design for each resolution - we 
store all of these FPGA images in on-board flash memory and load the 
needed FPGA image for each resolution.

Please don't argue what is best here. We're just looking for a list to 
use (and it looks like we have a good selection to pick from already - 
thanks!)

So lets -close- this thread for now.

73, Eric

www.elecraft.com


On 12/19/2011 2:32 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
>> On 12/19/2011 1:21 PM, Doug Person wrote:
>>> Very few monitors in use today (for web-browsing) can accommodate 1024 x
>>> 768 as a native mode.
>> This is a computer geek's view.  So far, I've never seen a monitor sold
>> for use with computers that would NOT run at 1024x768.  If you would
>> like to come by my QTH I can show you ten that DO work at 1024x768.
> The key word is "native". LCDs, being digital, have a native
> resolution, where each pixel to be displayed maps directly to a pixel
> on the screen. Most monitors will find a way to display some
> resolutions lower than their native one, but it may not look pretty
> (either "blurry", or maybe not filling the entire screen).
>
> See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_resolution
>
>  ~iain / N6ML
>
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 VGA output

2011-12-19 Thread Bill K9YEQ 
Jim.

I think it is fair that Elecraft look to newer equipment for developing
drivers, meaning stuff that is in the flat screen vintage and early in the
adaption of 3-5 years ago.  Beyond that, I think the game becomes too
complex.  This is the reason several of us have asked for more wide screen
support for monitors that were 19" and up for widescreen.  

While we don't have unlimited resources for $'s to spend   If one is to get
the adapter, unfortunately that may require more $'s to take advantage.  I
don't find that I need a larger monitor as the P3 does what I need as is,
but may go ahead just for another toy.  You know what I mean?  I will get
the adapter and try it on one of my main screens and see if it is worth
buying the additional monitor.  I have two now that are large, but are not
available for the single purpose of the P3 external display.  Further, an
external display will take up more desk space.  I can add the display via AB
switch, but this would only be on a momentary basis, as I use my displays
for business in my shack. 

73,
Bill
K9YEQ


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 12:13 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 VGA output

On 12/19/2011 9:54 AM, Doug Person wrote:
> Very few monitors today support 1024x768. 1280x1024 is rapidly 
> becoming obsolete.  Useful native resolutions are 1366x768 - also 
> known as 720p, used widely in laptops and lower priced LCD TVs, 
> 1440x900 and 1680x1050 (both used in higher end laptops and lower end LCD
monitors).

While it's important to support these 16:9 resolutions, it should be
remembered that many (most?) ham shacks utilize vintage gear re-purposed
from mainstream use.  Until the last year or two, the computers in my shack
have been 6-8 year old laptops those that I used to use in my business, and
I'm still using slightly newer versions of the same type that I bought as
off-lease refurbs. Thus, while 4:3 display schemes may be disappearing from
NEW equipment, Elecraft is right to support them for compatibility with
older monitors.  Indeed, the only problem I have right now with using a 10
year old 28-in LCD display originally bought for my biz is that it's too big
to fit in the available space above my operating desk.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 VGA output

2011-12-19 Thread Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF 
Hi everyone,
Some people here seem to be losing sight (pun intended) of one of the 
reasons for Elecraft offering and people buying the SVGA adaptor, that is so 
that those people with poor eyesight can see the P3's display which due to 
their eyesight can be rather difficult to see in waterfall mode. (Monochrome 
mode will help a little)

I am one of those poorly sighted people and I can tell you that whilst all 
my computer monitors here are LCD flat panels with a native resolution of 
1440x900 (or significantly better) I operate every single one of them at 
1024 x 768 (even on the widescreen monitors), simply because that is the 
smallest that I can see unaided with any reliability.
A lot of people are in the same boat I believe.
My eye condition cannot be corrected by laser, spectacles or contacts, I 
just have to live with my failing eyesight until I get new corneal grafts 
which will give me another 5 to 10 years of sight.
(At least I can go back under the knife a few times to extend my 'sighted' 
time which is some small comfort.)
I am looking forward to the availabilty of the SVGA adaptor but please Eric, 
keep the 1024 x 768 resolution available. (Dare I ask for 800 x 600 too for 
when my eyes have just about 'croaked'?) :-)

73 de
Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF
East Innisfail
QLD, Australia
K3 #4257, P3#1629, KPA-500 #161

- Original Message - 
From: "iain macdonnell - N6ML" 
To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 VGA output


On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Jim Brown  
wrote:
> On 12/19/2011 1:21 PM, Doug Person wrote:
>> Very few monitors in use today (for web-browsing) can accommodate 1024 x
>> 768 as a native mode.
>
> This is a computer geek's view. So far, I've never seen a monitor sold
> for use with computers that would NOT run at 1024x768. If you would
> like to come by my QTH I can show you ten that DO work at 1024x768.

The key word is "native". LCDs, being digital, have a native
resolution, where each pixel to be displayed maps directly to a pixel
on the screen. Most monitors will find a way to display some
resolutions lower than their native one, but it may not look pretty
(either "blurry", or maybe not filling the entire screen).

See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_resolution

~iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] Searching the reflector archives

2011-12-19 Thread Don Putnick 
Yep. Wamder on over to 
http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/maillist.html
Enter "HRD" into the search box. You'll get 1430 hits. Use the "Refine search" 
link as needed.
 
Don NA6Z
K3 #5495


>
>From: Jack Berry 
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
>Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 8:17 AM
>Subject: [Elecraft] Searching the reflector archives
>Is there a way to search across a range of mail list archives (a years worth 
>for 
>example)? I am trying to find comments on HRD and other loggers by Elecraft 
>subscribers.
>73,
>Jack - WE5ST
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 VGA output

2011-12-19 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML 
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
> On 12/19/2011 1:21 PM, Doug Person wrote:
>> Very few monitors in use today (for web-browsing) can accommodate 1024 x
>> 768 as a native mode.
>
> This is a computer geek's view.  So far, I've never seen a monitor sold
> for use with computers that would NOT run at 1024x768.  If you would
> like to come by my QTH I can show you ten that DO work at 1024x768.

The key word is "native". LCDs, being digital, have a native
resolution, where each pixel to be displayed maps directly to a pixel
on the screen. Most monitors will find a way to display some
resolutions lower than their native one, but it may not look pretty
(either "blurry", or maybe not filling the entire screen).

See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_resolution

~iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 12 v ERR

2011-12-19 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML 
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:59 PM, John  wrote:
> Someone pse point the way to a fix for this probelm.
> Apparently it's due to improper contact at PA module.

The fix involves replacing some pins on both the main RF board and the
KPA3 board with gold-plated ones. It looks like a non-trivial
desoldering job, probably best done at the factory, unless you have
special tools and the skills to use them. Some have suggested contact
cleaner, but the one case of this problem that I've seen looked beyond
cleaning

~iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] Serial data access to Compression Bar Graph Meter?

2011-12-19 Thread n5ge 

CP * (Speech Compression; GET/SET)
SET/RSP format: CPxxx; where xxx is 000-040 (speech compression level).

I know there is one for changing the meter display, but wasn't able to find it.

You can find ALL of the public K3 Commands Here
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3_Pgmrs_Reference_Rev_C14.pdf

 73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

"If somebody has a bad heart, 
they can plug this jack in at 
night as they go to bed and it 
will monitor their heart 
throughout the night. And the 
next morning, when they wake up 
dead, there'll be a record."

--Mark S. Fowler, FCC Chairman,
  1981 - 1987


On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:05:09 -0800, Rob  wrote:

>Hello group,
>Is there a way to access the Compression bar graph display data using 
>RS-232 serial commands? I know to read the RF Power and ALC bar graph 
>meters using the BG command but is it possible to query the meter level  
>while transmitting? And on a related note, is there a way to determine 
>which meter pair is currently being displayed  as set by the DISP/METER 
>switch?
>Thanks,
>--rob-- K6DQ
[snip]

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[Elecraft] FW: P3 VGA output

2011-12-19 Thread Rick Bates 


I'll politely disagree.  I'm not a web designer but I know hams.   If it
works, hams will retask it instead of tossing it.  Web designers are more
concerned with the bleeding edge, not with getting the longest use from
existing hardware.

I have two 1024X768 monitors here, in use for many tasks, including
browsing.  I still have one monitor that is  a CRT (on my text
based IRLP system).  While I've converted to laptops for most of my work,
the old desktops (down to three) still serve a function.

If it works well enough to do what you need, including energy costs, why
toss it?

However, I see no point in a P3 on CGA or an 800x600 display. ;-)

There is a wide variety of display ratios over the last couple decades (no
hard standards).  It's not reasonable to require or request them all.
Going to HDTV standards was a wise move since the market is already there
and will be for a generation to come.  Extra choices are gravy.

If my current monitor collection doesn't work for the P3, I'll go get
another HDTV and that'll give me more use (watch Jeopardy and the P3 using
PIP?) for near the same money.  My laptops can use them too in native
1080p.

Rick WA6NHC. (this time I checked the spell checker 'fixes', sorry)

Tiny iPhone keypad, sorry for typos

On Dec 19, 2011, at 1:21 PM, Doug Person  wrote:

> Very few monitors in use today (for web-browsing) can accommodate 1024 x
> 768 as a native mode.  This is a well-known statistic among
> web-developers.  I didn't say Elecraft shouldn't support this mode.
> But, obviously, I should have just said 1366x768 would be the next most
> important mode and leave it at that.  I don't think its a reasonable
> statement to say any particular monitor type is more likely to be in use
> by hams.  You're just making an assumption not based on any particular
> data.  Industry data says 1024x768 is not used much anymore.  I don't
> think hams are very far out of the mainstream.  End of discussion.
>
> On 12/19/2011 11:02 AM, Rick Bates wrote:
>> "Very few NEW monitors" would be a more accurate statement.  And since
when
>> do most hams through out any functioning device?  In other words, an
older
>> monitor is MORE likely to be in the shack than a new one, regardless of
the
>> new one being cheaper.  We reuse so we can spend on other things.
>>
>> Merry/Happy Christmas
>> Rick WA6NHC
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Doug Person
>>
>> Eric,
>> Very few monitors today support 1024x768. 1280x1024 is rapidly becoming
>> obsolete.

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[Elecraft] K3 12 v ERR

2011-12-19 Thread John 
Someone pse point the way to a fix for this probelm. 
Apparently it's due to improper contact at PA module.
Thanks.
73.
John.
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 VGA output

2011-12-19 Thread Jim Brown 
On 12/19/2011 1:21 PM, Doug Person wrote:
> Very few monitors in use today (for web-browsing) can accommodate 1024 x
> 768 as a native mode.

This is a computer geek's view.  So far, I've never seen a monitor sold 
for use with computers that would NOT run at 1024x768.  If you would 
like to come by my QTH I can show you ten that DO work at 1024x768.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 VGA output

2011-12-19 Thread Doug Person 
Very few monitors in use today (for web-browsing) can accommodate 1024 x 
768 as a native mode.  This is a well-known statistic among 
web-developers.  I didn't say Elecraft shouldn't support this mode.  
But, obviously, I should have just said 1366x768 would be the next most 
important mode and leave it at that.  I don't think its a reasonable 
statement to say any particular monitor type is more likely to be in use 
by hams.  You're just making an assumption not based on any particular 
data.  Industry data says 1024x768 is not used much anymore.  I don't 
think hams are very far out of the mainstream.  End of discussion.

On 12/19/2011 11:02 AM, Rick Bates wrote:
> "Very few NEW monitors" would be a more accurate statement.  And since when
> do most hams through out any functioning device?  In other words, an older
> monitor is MORE likely to be in the shack than a new one, regardless of the
> new one being cheaper.  We reuse so we can spend on other things.
>
> Merry/Happy Christmas
> Rick WA6NHC
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Doug Person
>
> Eric,
> Very few monitors today support 1024x768. 1280x1024 is rapidly becoming
> obsolete.
>
>

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[Elecraft] Thank you Madelyn!

2011-12-19 Thread Woody Hester 
So much has been said about Elecraft's customer service that I almost feel bad 
about cluttering up the list with more... but, I ordered a K3/10 online Friday 
then called Madelyn at Elecraft today to up it to a K3/100 and add another 
filter.  Even though it's probably one of the craziest days of the year for 
her, and even though I'm a silly, undecided old guy, she was glad to hear from 
me and couldn't have been more helpful / friendly.  Thanks Madelyn and MC/HNY 
to you and everyone at Elecraft!! / Woody / WD9F
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[Elecraft] Serial data access to Compression Bar Graph Meter?

2011-12-19 Thread Rob 
Hello group,
Is there a way to access the Compression bar graph display data using 
RS-232 serial commands? I know to read the RF Power and ALC bar graph 
meters using the BG command but is it possible to query the meter level  
while transmitting? And on a related note, is there a way to determine 
which meter pair is currently being displayed  as set by the DISP/METER 
switch?
Thanks,
--rob-- K6DQ
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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA signal as a separate window with VGA2USB? (frame grabber...)

2011-12-19 Thread David Gilbert 

I'm pretty sure most frame grabbers are supplied with their own software 
to do just that.  I think the bigger issue would be what kind of screen 
resolution you'd end up with.  You'd need one with essentially HDTV quality.

Dave   AB7E


On 12/19/2011 5:25 AM, John Ragle wrote:
> Jan...
>
>   Your post is a very interesting one. Thank you! It looks to me like
> the hard step will be "windowing" the frame that has been "grabbed."
> Since you have obviously been following the P3SVGA thread, you know of
> my interest in a windowed version of the P3 output. Many others have
> written me privately (probably so as not to antagonize Elecraft), very
> interested in the same idea. I already run 2 monitors (17", 24") on my
> desk, so adding a 3rd one, dedicated *solely* to the P3, is not really a
> comfortable option. Please keep me (us) abreast of this idea...
>
> John Ragle -- W1ZI
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 birdies in display

2011-12-19 Thread n6wg 


Hi Peter 

Yes, I too have the "marching noise peaks", but mine go away when I disconnect 
the antenna from my K3. 

My problem is the pips that look just like a signal but move across the screen 
at a either the same pace 

as the cursor, or at some multiple of its pace.  I remember Eric saying that 
these are harmonics from 

internal oscillators in the K3. 

I'm wondering if anyone has tackled the problem of reducing or eliminating 
these "birdies". 

thanks for the reply and Merry Christmas, Peter. 

73, Bob N6WG 

The Little Station with Attitude 





- Original Message -


From: "Peter Torry"  
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 9:53:48 AM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 birdies in display 

Hi Bob, 


I 
too have had noise peaks pass from left to right across the screen of 
the 
P3 leaving a diagonal waterfall trace.  First a small one, then one at 
+40 dB above the reference level then another small 
one, all moving slowly across the screen. Nothing is heard on the K3 and occurs 
even when the P3 is disconnected from the K3 and is therefore 
internally generated.   
I cured the noise 
peaks by ensuring all the case connections were clean, the fixing screws 
reasonably tight and re 
installed all of the ribbon and coax connectors in the P3.  The screws holding 
the 
display to the front panel made the most difference as I was careful not 
 to over tighten them originally !! 

 I also have re radiation of 19kHz noise on 2m that still comes and 
goes even though I have filtered the supply lead.  


73 

Peter 
G3SMT 



 
 From: "n...@comcast.net"  
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Saturday, 17 December 2011, 17:13 
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 birdies in display 
  


I’ve dug through the archives looking for info on fixing this. 



So far no luck.   I understand the birdies I’m seeing are harmonics from 



oscillators within the K3.   Has anyone done any experiments in the K3 to 



reduce these birdies?   Maybe moving cables, or adding ground 



straps somewhere? 



Thanks and 73 



Bob N6WG 



The Little Station with Attitude 


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[Elecraft] K1 for sale

2011-12-19 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft 
Forwarded for John, who is having trouble posting. Please reply directly 
to him.
---
Subject:
K1 For Sale
From:
"John Dziedziejko" 
Date:
12/19/2011 10:53 AM

To:



I have K1 serial #1149 with the 4 band module covering 40, 30, 20 and 17 
meters. Includes the noise blanker, backlight mod and tilt stand. 
Excellent Condition.

Asking $430.00 includes shipping.

Please respond off list to my email address: dziedziej...@bellsouth.net 


Regards,

John W9QP
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 VGA output

2011-12-19 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF 
Fantastic - another sale!
:-)

I'd like to take this opertunity to wish all at Elecraft a Merry Christmas and 
a Prosperous New Year with good DX

Have a good holiday chaps - you deserve it.

73 de M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108, KX3 #???)

-- 
If you have the same ideas as everybody else but have them one week earlier
than everyone else then you will be hailed as a visionary. But if you have
them five years earlier you will be named a lunatic. -Barry Jones,
politician, author (1932- )

On 19 Dec 2011, at 17:24, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

> I just posted to that page with some corrections and updates:
> 
> 1. The CW, RTTY, and PSK31 text display window will appear on both the P3 
> internal screen and the external monitor, in addition to the spectral display 
> information. we'll either have this up at release on the SVGA or with a 
> follow up firmware update.
> 
> 2. Pricing looks to be approximately in the mid to high $200 range. Certainly 
> not in the $350-400 range :-)
> 
> 3. Current resolutions supported are 1024x768, 1280x1024 and 1920x1080. We 
> will be adding several more ranges in the wide screen format.
> 
> 4. Its released for purchasing and production now. We will be adding it to 
> the order form in the next couple of weeks (between 12/27 and 1/15) and 
> expect to ship late Jan early Feb.
> 
> 73, Eric
> 
> www.elecraft.com
> 
> 
> On 12/19/2011 4:23 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
>> Ah - now, ~ $300 for the extra features I would definitely go for - 
>> especially being able to use data mode via a keyboard (my CW is very ropey 
>> and S/K only at present)
>> 73 de M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108, KX3 #???)
>> Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New Year with good DX
>> 

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[Elecraft] FS : K1 two band module SOLD

2011-12-19 Thread edward kacura 
GM...the two band module is sold. Thanks again, you Elecraft folks are the best 
!!
 
Happy Holidays to allEd N7EDK
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 VGA output

2011-12-19 Thread Jim Brown 
On 12/19/2011 9:54 AM, Doug Person wrote:
> Very few monitors today support 1024x768. 1280x1024 is rapidly becoming
> obsolete.  Useful native resolutions are 1366x768 - also known as 720p,
> used widely in laptops and lower priced LCD TVs, 1440x900 and 1680x1050
> (both used in higher end laptops and lower end LCD monitors).

While it's important to support these 16:9 resolutions, it should be 
remembered that many (most?) ham shacks utilize vintage gear re-purposed 
from mainstream use.  Until the last year or two, the computers in my 
shack have been 6-8 year old laptops those that I used to use in my 
business, and I'm still using slightly newer versions of the same type 
that I bought as off-lease refurbs. Thus, while 4:3 display schemes may 
be disappearing from NEW equipment, Elecraft is right to support them 
for compatibility with older monitors.  Indeed, the only problem I have 
right now with using a 10 year old 28-in LCD display originally bought 
for my biz is that it's too big to fit in the available space above my 
operating desk.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 VGA output

2011-12-19 Thread Doug Person 
Eric,
Very few monitors today support 1024x768. 1280x1024 is rapidly becoming 
obsolete.  Useful native resolutions are 1366x768 - also known as 720p, 
used widely in laptops and lower priced LCD TVs, 1440x900 and 1680x1050 
(both used in higher end laptops and lower end LCD monitors).  But, 
having 1920x1080 is the most important because the overwhelming majority 
of monitors and TVs sold today are at this native resolution (also known 
as 1080I and 1080P).  So you have the important one.  I would go with 
1366x768 as the next one to pick up.  Lots of really inexpensive 
monitors ($80-$90) available using this spec.  I just picked up a 15.2" 
Acer at WalMart to dedicate to this option for about $85 out the door.

73, Doug -- K0DXV

On 12/19/2011 10:24 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
> I just posted to that page with some corrections and updates:
>
> 1. The CW, RTTY, and PSK31 text display window will appear on both the
> P3 internal screen and the external monitor, in addition to the spectral
> display information. we'll either have this up at release on the SVGA or
> with a follow up firmware update.
>
> 2. Pricing looks to be approximately in the mid to high $200 range.
> Certainly not in the $350-400 range :-)
>
> 3. Current resolutions supported are 1024x768, 1280x1024 and 1920x1080.
> We will be adding several more ranges in the wide screen format.
>
> 4. Its released for purchasing and production now. We will be adding it
> to the order form in the next couple of weeks (between 12/27 and 1/15)
> and expect to ship late Jan early Feb.
>
> 73, Eric
>
> www.elecraft.com
>
>
> On 12/19/2011 4:23 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
>> Ah - now, ~ $300 for the extra features I would definitely go for - 
>> especially being able to use data mode via a keyboard (my CW is very ropey 
>> and S/K only at present)
>> 73 de M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108, KX3 #???)
>> Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New Year with good DX
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 birdies in display

2011-12-19 Thread Peter Torry 
Hi Bob,


I
too have had noise peaks pass from left to right across the screen of 
the 
P3 leaving a diagonal waterfall trace.  First a small one, then one at 
+40 dB above the reference level then another small 
one, all moving slowly across the screen. Nothing is heard on the K3 and occurs 
even when the P3 is disconnected from the K3 and is therefore 
internally generated.   
I cured the noise 
peaks by ensuring all the case connections were clean, the fixing screws 
reasonably tight and re 
installed all of the ribbon and coax connectors in the P3.  The screws holding 
the 
display to the front panel made the most difference as I was careful not
 to over tighten them originally !! 

 I also have re radiation of 19kHz noise on 2m that still comes and 
goes even though I have filtered the supply lead.  


73

Peter
G3SMT




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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Saturday, 17 December 2011, 17:13
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 birdies in display
 


I’ve dug through the archives looking for info on fixing this. 



So far no luck.   I understand the birdies I’m seeing are harmonics from 



oscillators within the K3.   Has anyone done any experiments in the K3 to 



reduce these birdies?   Maybe moving cables, or adding ground 



straps somewhere? 



Thanks and 73 



Bob N6WG 



The Little Station with Attitude 


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Re: [Elecraft] How is handkey plug wired for KX-1?

2011-12-19 Thread Don Wilhelm 
Paul,


Yes, to key the KX1 from a hand key or a properly working computer 
keying circuit, you connect between the sleeve and the tip of the 1/8 
inch stereo plug.  Note that a mono plug will not work, it must be stereo.

I cannot equate the "48 character display" to a KX1 problem.  That 
sounds like a computer problem.

If you leave the KX1 set to HND and tap out CW on the dot paddle, does 
your KX1 key properly?  If so, then it should also key with your keying 
interface.

When you send from CWType, what do you hear with the KX1 sidetone?  That 
should be what is being transmitted.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/19/2011 9:23 AM, Paul wrote:
> Most rigs that allow a hand key require it to be wired to a stereo plug
> using the sleeve and tip only.
> I use CWType software and that sends cw out a serial port to a simple
> circuit with a switching transistor for on/off.
> It works fine with other rigs.
>
> However, when I plugged it into the KX-1, the 48 character index
> wouldn't go down as it sent my message.
> I could hear the CW from CWType so I know that was working. And if I
> plug ina regular three wire paddle, and change the input from Hnd to
> Pdn, the paddle works.
>
> As CWType is sending, I can see the KX-1 LED's blink a little, but the
> display stays on 48 characters.
>
>
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[Elecraft] Catchup on KPA500 and KAT500

2011-12-19 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 
Forgive me for bringing up old stuff, but I've been out-of-touch for a 
while, being a square-rig sailor with little or no internet access.

I see hints of an upgrade to the fastening of the power transformer to 
make it less susceptible to vibration while being transported-  is this 
official, and what exactly is it?

And what's the current projected form factor for the KAT500?  I'd like 
to make provision for it in my specialized "K series" baggage.

73, doug

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 VGA output

2011-12-19 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft 
I just posted to that page with some corrections and updates:

1. The CW, RTTY, and PSK31 text display window will appear on both the 
P3 internal screen and the external monitor, in addition to the spectral 
display information. we'll either have this up at release on the SVGA or 
with a follow up firmware update.

2. Pricing looks to be approximately in the mid to high $200 range. 
Certainly not in the $350-400 range :-)

3. Current resolutions supported are 1024x768, 1280x1024 and 1920x1080. 
We will be adding several more ranges in the wide screen format.

4. Its released for purchasing and production now. We will be adding it 
to the order form in the next couple of weeks (between 12/27 and 1/15) 
and expect to ship late Jan early Feb.

73, Eric

www.elecraft.com


On 12/19/2011 4:23 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
> Ah - now, ~ $300 for the extra features I would definitely go for - 
> especially being able to use data mode via a keyboard (my CW is very ropey 
> and S/K only at present)
> 73 de M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108, KX3 #???)
> Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New Year with good DX
>
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[Elecraft] FS : K1 two band module

2011-12-19 Thread edward kacura 

Hello..I have a built 2 band module for the K1 that covers 80/40 meters. I 
bought it built, but have never got around to using it in the K1, and would 
like to get it to a good home where it can be used. I'll let it go for $50.00 
and I'll pay the shipping. There is also a K1B15 15 M module kit that comes 
with it. Contact me off line at ekac...@yahoo.com.
 
73 de Ed N7EDK in Marana,AZ.
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[Elecraft] clicking on speaker when cw is sent from K1

2011-12-19 Thread km5ps 
Here is an audio mp3 file I made of the noise that I mentioned in 
earlier post.  Audacity may have emphasized it a little bit, but you 
hear the clicking in the speaker.


John   K1 0930
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[Elecraft] P3 birdies in display

2011-12-19 Thread n6wg 


I’ve dug through the archives looking for info on fixing this. 



So far no luck.   I understand the birdies I’m seeing are harmonics from 



oscillators within the K3.   Has anyone done any experiments in the K3 to 



reduce these birdies?   Maybe moving cables, or adding ground 



straps somewhere? 



Thanks and 73 



Bob N6WG 



The Little Station with Attitude 


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[Elecraft] Searching the reflector archives

2011-12-19 Thread Jack Berry 
Is there a way to search across a range of mail list archives (a years worth 
for 
example)? I am trying to find comments on HRD and other loggers by Elecraft 
subscribers.

73,
Jack - WE5ST
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Re: [Elecraft] [P3] P3+Microham USB III - 13.8v connection

2011-12-19 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF 
how about making up a little relay box, power the relay (coil) from the K3 aux 
out and the other units from your PSU via the relay - then when you turn off 
the K3, the other units go off too. Don't forget a protection diode across the 
relay.
73 de M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108, KX3 #???)
-- 
It takes a great deal of bravery to stand up to our enemies, but just as much 
to stand up to our friends. -J.K. Rowling, author (b. 1965) 

On 19 Dec 2011, at 13:55, Giuseppe Sorrentino wrote:

> Hy to all, perhaps there's someone has already done this. I must wire the 
> microham usbIII interface to my K3/P3. Now i have the P3 that take the 13.8v 
> from the back of my K3 but also the interface has a cable to connect to that 
> jack on the back of K3. Is it a particular reason to leave the P3 cable on 
> the 13.8 conn on the back of K3 and wire the microham to a power supply or 
> nothing particular???

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[Elecraft] How is handkey plug wired for KX-1?

2011-12-19 Thread Paul 
Most rigs that allow a hand key require it to be wired to a stereo plug 
using the sleeve and tip only.
I use CWType software and that sends cw out a serial port to a simple 
circuit with a switching transistor for on/off.
It works fine with other rigs.

However, when I plugged it into the KX-1, the 48 character index 
wouldn't go down as it sent my message.
I could hear the CW from CWType so I know that was working. And if I 
plug ina regular three wire paddle, and change the input from Hnd to 
Pdn, the paddle works.

As CWType is sending, I can see the KX-1 LED's blink a little, but the 
display stays on 48 characters.

I haven't found any words or wiring diagrams for a straight key; just 
"... plug it in ..." so maybe if Hnd is selected as input, it expects 
the ring connection to be shorted against the shaft; that is, a mono-plug.

And insights, advice as to why this software to serial port to switching 
circuit to stereo plug with ring unused to KX-1 with input set to Hnd 
wouldn't work.

Thank you and 73,
Paul, K7NHB
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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

2011-12-19 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy 
Morning Fred,

When you see what appear to be the harmonics of WWV's audio tones, have you 
tried reducing the level of the signal reaching the K3 - P3 (e.g. by turning 
on the K3's ATT)?  If ATT is switched ON, does the amplitude of each tone 
harmonic seen decrease by the same amount (in db) as the tones themselves 
and the carrier ?

This test would help to narrow the search for the source of tones' 
harmonics, i.e. at WWV, or between WWV and your K3's attenuator, or 
somewhere after your K3's attenuator.

Up to the time when I had some useful antennas, July 2011, I cannot recall 
seeing any harmonic of WWV's tones when using WWV or WWVH to check the 
frequency calibration of my Perseus SDR, even when WWV's carrier level was a 
good S9 or higher.

Best wishes for Christmas, and a Happy New Year when it comes.

73,

Geoff
LX2AO


On December 19, 2011 1:30 AM, Fred Jensen wrote:


> Yes, one in particular ... WWV :-)  I still cannot explain what appear
> to be harmonics of the audio tones at levels I sure didn't expect.  I
> corresponded with someone at the station, he said they are sine waves
> derived from the cesium standards, asked for a photo, and thanks to the
> P3 Utility, I sent him two, one at about 5 KHz span, and one zeroed in
> on the carrier which clearly shows the 100 Hz sub-carrier and the IRIG-H
> time code modulation.  He assured me they were "on frequency" and I hope
> I explained that that was *not* the issue.  I have yet to hear back.  If
> anyone can explain what several of us see on the P3 when looking at WWV
> at narrow spans, I'd sure like to know.  I'm baffled.

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[Elecraft] [P3] P3+Microham USB III - 13.8v connection

2011-12-19 Thread Giuseppe Sorrentino 
Hy to all, perhaps there's someone has already done this. I must wire the 
microham usbIII interface to my K3/P3. Now i have the P3 that take the 13.8v 
from the back of my K3 but also the interface has a cable to connect to that 
jack on the back of K3. Is it a particular reason to leave the P3 cable on the 
13.8 conn on the back of K3 and wire the microham to a power supply or nothing 
particular???
 
TNX
 
MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY 2012 TO ALL

IZ2NYY
Giuseppe "Pippo" Sorrentino
Milano ITALY
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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA signal as a separate window with VGA2USB? (frame grabber...)

2011-12-19 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF 
My only problem with a dedicated screen is no room for anything really large, 
but I might be able to get something around 15" behind the K3.
I already have a 24" iMac (personal) and two 19" screens (business connected to 
PC) on my desk and can't figure out how I could get more desk space...

hmmm, a thought, switch the lounge and the study - hmmm station manager needs a 
BIG xmas present :-)

I too will be interested in developments around this idea.

73 de M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108, KX3 #???)
Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New Year with good DX

-- 
The ostrich roams the great Sahara. Its mouth is wide, its neck is narra.
It has such long and lofty legs, I'm glad it sits to lay its eggs. 
- Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

On 19 Dec 2011, at 12:25, John Ragle wrote:

> Jan...
> 
> Your post is a very interesting one. Thank you! It looks to me like 
> the hard step will be "windowing" the frame that has been "grabbed." 
> Since you have obviously been following the P3SVGA thread, you know of 
> my interest in a windowed version of the P3 output. Many others have 
> written me privately (probably so as not to antagonize Elecraft), very 
> interested in the same idea. I already run 2 monitors (17", 24") on my 
> desk, so adding a 3rd one, dedicated *solely* to the P3, is not really a 
> comfortable option. Please keep me (us) abreast of this idea...

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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA signal as a separate window with VGA2USB?

2011-12-19 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF 
That's interesting, especially for use with my Mac. I've asked the vendor the 
question.
I would think using the higher ratio grabber would probably be required.
73 de M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108, KX3 #???)
-- 
Man is the best computer we can put aboard a spacecraft and the only one
that can be mass produced with unskilled labour.
-Wernher von Braun, rocket engineer (1912-1977)

On 19 Dec 2011, at 12:05, Jan, SM5FQQ wrote:

> Is it possible to use a VGA2USB device ,external frame grabber, connected to
> your computer and to show the P3-signal as separate window on your monitor?
> See http://www.vgacapture.com/
> 
> If it is possible does anyone know of a software to use to generate the
> separate window? 

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[Elecraft] P3SVGA signal as a separate window with VGA2USB? (frame grabber...)

2011-12-19 Thread John Ragle 
Jan...

 Your post is a very interesting one. Thank you! It looks to me like 
the hard step will be "windowing" the frame that has been "grabbed." 
Since you have obviously been following the P3SVGA thread, you know of 
my interest in a windowed version of the P3 output. Many others have 
written me privately (probably so as not to antagonize Elecraft), very 
interested in the same idea. I already run 2 monitors (17", 24") on my 
desk, so adding a 3rd one, dedicated *solely* to the P3, is not really a 
comfortable option. Please keep me (us) abreast of this idea...

John Ragle -- W1ZI
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 VGA output

2011-12-19 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF 
Ah - now, ~ $300 for the extra features I would definitely go for - especially 
being able to use data mode via a keyboard (my CW is very ropey and S/K only at 
present)
73 de M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108, KX3 #???)
Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New Year with good DX

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On 19 Dec 2011, at 12:11, Mike K2MK wrote:

> Hi Dave,
> 
> Take a deep breath and follow this link.
> 
> http://nefl-dstar.com/blog/2011/09/15/elecraft-p3-pan-adapter-upgrades/
> 
> 73,
> Mike K2MK
> 
> 
> M0XDF wrote
>> 
>> 
>> And ballpark cost please? I don't remember seeing that and don't think
>> it's listed on the order page yet?
>> 
>> 73 de M0XDF
>> 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 VGA output

2011-12-19 Thread Mike K2MK 
Hi Dave,

Take a deep breath and follow this link.

http://nefl-dstar.com/blog/2011/09/15/elecraft-p3-pan-adapter-upgrades/

73,
Mike K2MK


M0XDF wrote
> 
> 
> And ballpark cost please? I don't remember seeing that and don't think
> it's listed on the order page yet?
> 
> 73 de M0XDF
> 


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[Elecraft] P3SVGA signal as a separate window with VGA2USB?

2011-12-19 Thread Jan, SM5FQQ 
Is it possible to use a VGA2USB device ,external frame grabber, connected to
your computer and to show the P3-signal as separate window on your monitor?
See http://www.vgacapture.com/

If it is possible does anyone know of a software to use to generate the
separate window? 

73 de Jan SM5FQQ
Http://qrz.com/db/SM5FQQ

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Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA Display

2011-12-19 Thread David Windisch 
Dave Gilbert wrote:
" . . I don't own a P3, but if I did I'd like to have the option to make the 
waterfall scroll from right to left like CW Skimmer does in Blind Mode.   
With a bit of practice, you can teach yourself to visually decode CW . . "

Hehheh.  Turn it on its side.  One side makes it more challenging than the
other.

MC&hny to all concerned.
Brgds,
Dave, N3HE 


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[Elecraft] KPA500

2011-12-19 Thread radiobuf 
My Christmas present should be here in two days! P3SVGA will be next. 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 VGA output

2011-12-19 Thread Gary VK4FD 
David,

I wonder when we will see the wider bandwidth option appear?

It would be nice to see the whole amateur band of interest to see quickly what 
is happening on the CW and SSB portions of the band.

73

Gary


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  From: David Ferrington, M0XDF 
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  Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 7:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 VGA output


  And ballpark cost please? I don't remember seeing that and don't think it's 
listed on the order page yet?
  73 de M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108, KX3 #???)
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  On 17 Dec 2011, at 21:48, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

  > It is being released to production right now. With lead times on parts 
  > etc, I expect it to be assembled and in-house around the end of January.

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 VGA output

2011-12-19 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF 
And ballpark cost please? I don't remember seeing that and don't think it's 
listed on the order page yet?
73 de M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108, KX3 #???)
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On 17 Dec 2011, at 21:48, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

> It is being released to production right now. With lead times on parts 
> etc, I expect it to be assembled and in-house around the end of January.

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