Re: [Elecraft] OT: covers vs cases

2012-08-10 Thread Gary Gregory
*Dust Cover = Throw Over Cloth

Case = Over Shoulder Carry Case

Just a thought.

Gary
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On 10 August 2012 15:32, Alan Bloom n...@sonic.net wrote:

 Hi Rose,

 How about just dust cover and carrying case.  That should clear up
 the confusion.

 Alan N1AL


 On Fri, 2012-08-10 at 04:35 +, Rose wrote:
  It's suprising the number of folks who refer to cover or
  dust cover when they actually mean a carrying case or
  carrying bag!
 
  The same appears to be true when referring to a case.
  Many actually mean the dust cover that sets atop a rig
  on the desk.
 
  This can actually become a costly ... for me ... matter.
  Does anyone have a suggestion for better names for my
  products that might help eliminate the confusion?
 
  73!
 
  Rose - N7HKW
  elecraftcov...@gmail.com
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[Elecraft] XV432 kit

2012-08-10 Thread Vic Goncharsky
Are XV432 kits still avaliable?

WTB and assemble one before IARU R1 UHF championship in October


73 Vic US5WE/K1WE (UW5W in VHF contests) KN29AU 
UARL VHF committee 
Chairman, UARL Lvov Branch LKK 
Moderator, UARL VHF portal http://www.vhfdx.at.ua 
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Re: [Elecraft] XV432 kit

2012-08-10 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, Vic Goncharsky us...@yahoo.com writes
Are XV432 kits still avaliable?

WTB and assemble one before IARU R1 UHF championship in October

Yes, Vic, you can see them listed at...

http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm#xvs

73 de David G4DMP

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Re: [Elecraft] splash

2012-08-10 Thread Thomas Horsten
Except it's very easy to change if you know what you're doing :) Better to
rely on the serial number, while not impossible to change it's a lot harder.

For the purpose of proving ownership in case of theft, I have my name,
callsign and email address on Dymo strips a couple of places inside my KX3
and K3 (no details here,  be creative :). But I also have insurance, so if
the worst should happen I'd be covered.

73, Thomas M0TRN

On 10 August 2012 05:00, vk4tux vk4...@bigpond.com wrote:

 This is very useful if your beloved K3 gets stolen (prove ownership), lost
 or otherwise missing.

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[Elecraft] KX3 Setup for portable operation (with picture)

2012-08-10 Thread Heinz Bärtschi
Hi all,

Pleased about the extension of my portable setup for QRP/SOTA operation with
a KX3 (picture added on QRZ.COM).

Many thanks again Hans-Kurt, HB9HVJ, to pass your package containing the KX3
#0975 over  to me.

73 es gl,
Heinz  HB9BCB

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Re: [Elecraft] DSP for K2

2012-08-10 Thread Ariel Jacala
Steve

I have a K2 also.  I have a noise reduction speaker made by BHI out of the UK 
that is very effective in reducing QRN. You can look up the speaker in W4RT.com.

Ariel NY4G

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On Aug 9, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Stephen Roberts steve...@shoreham.net wrote:

 I have a K2 and recently tested a WMR Clrdsp unit and was very disappointed 
 with the results. I think the unit was defective and I returned it. But I 
 wanted to ask the list what outboard DSP units you might use and whether you 
 think they're worth it or not. I have a hard time forking over $250 for the 
 K2 internal DSP unit.
 
 I have the KAF2 installed and it's very effective, but I'd really like to get 
 rid of some of that QRN that's always present 
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Re: [Elecraft] XV432 kit

2012-08-10 Thread Vic Goncharsky
Hi Dave,

It doesn't say KIT in there, I checked this b4 writing to the reflector.

73 Vic





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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] XV432 kit
 
In a recent message, Vic Goncharsky us...@yahoo.com writes
Are XV432 kits still avaliable?

WTB and assemble one before IARU R1 UHF championship in October

Yes, Vic, you can see them listed at...

http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm#xvs

73 de David G4DMP

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Re: [Elecraft] XV432 kit

2012-08-10 Thread David Pratt
I see what you mean, Vic. I think your best bet is to e-mail Eric and 
ask him. He ought to make it clear on the website whether it's a kit or 
ready built. There should of course be a difference in price.

Like you, I like building stuff, would not consider buying a ready built 
rig and was a bit disappointed there was not more detailed assembly 
required for the K3.

I use an XV144 with my K2 and an XV'70' with my K3, both self-assembled.

73

David G4DMP

In a recent message, Vic Goncharsky us...@yahoo.com writes
Hi Dave,
It doesn't say KIT in there, I checked this b4 writing to the
reflector.
73 Vic

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Re: [Elecraft] XV432 kit

2012-08-10 Thread Bruce Beford
The XV series transverters- including the XV432 are all kits- only the
surface mount components have been pre-installed on the PC board. The
builder must solder all the remaining parts, assemble the case and align the
unit. refer to the product description page (not the order page), and/or the
manual.

73,

Bruce, N1RX

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Setup for portable operation (with picture)

2012-08-10 Thread Barry N1EU

Heinz Baertschi wrote
 
 Pleased about the extension of my portable setup for QRP/SOTA operation
 with
 a KX3 (picture added on QRZ.COM).
 
Very nice set up Heinz!  I'd like to do something similar (integrate KX3,
paddle, writing surface, battery, etc) but would really like to be able to
hang it around my neck or otherwise support the rig for operating while I'm
standing.  If anybody has any ideas, I'd really like to hear them.  The KX3
isn't as obviously adaptable to standing operation when compared to the
FT817.

73,
Barry N1EU






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Re: [Elecraft] Lightning damage here

2012-08-10 Thread Greg Buhyoff
Don,

Really sorry to hear that. I empathize.  We lost two major appliances late June 
when the Derecho hit Virginia with 75 mph winds and a lightning show like I 
haven't seen in many years.  That lightning hit was not direct, but we heard 
the snap in the house.  It came through a wall receptacle in the family room 
and literally blew a hole in the hardwood floor. Luckily, all my radio  and 
computer equipment was spared, I think,  due to my running around the house, as 
the storm approached, and unplugging everything I could and having greatly 
improved my grounding system based upon many a good discussion here on this 
reflector.  We got hit, again last night and my vertical took a hit (I saw it), 
it blew out the gas discharge protectors I had in-line and the  2 inch 
grounding strap at outside copper bus plate is black and melted.  But, I also 
had solid 2 AWG going from that plate to ground ( 8 rods,  one every four 
feet).  

I wish you the very best.

73, Greg K2UM
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Re: [Elecraft] splash

2012-08-10 Thread Bob W7AVK
Group - An idea used on my net book and lap top computers.  Any trophy 
shop will have a computer controlled small engraving machine.  These are 
able to scribe any message or logo onto metal or plastic as long as the 
surface is flat.   Perfect for the inside panel of the K3.  Can't say 
for the KX3 as my ordered unit hasn't arrived yet. ;-)

73  Bob  W7AVK




On 8/10/2012 2:32 AM, Thomas Horsten wrote:
 Except it's very easy to change if you know what you're doing :) Better to
 rely on the serial number, while not impossible to change it's a lot harder.

 For the purpose of proving ownership in case of theft, I have my name,
 callsign and email address on Dymo strips a couple of places inside my KX3
 and K3 (no details here,  be creative :). But I also have insurance, so if
 the worst should happen I'd be covered.

 73, Thomas M0TRN

 On 10 August 2012 05:00, vk4tux vk4...@bigpond.com wrote:

 This is very useful if your beloved K3 gets stolen (prove ownership), lost
 or otherwise missing.

.
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Re: [Elecraft] Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

2012-08-10 Thread Ignacy
That RUMped works well with KX3 software scheme means that it can be done.
Even if not perfect, this would stop taking other interfaces/CW keyers,
cables, etc. If KX3 is small but extra boxes take twice as much space, how
good is it?

So it seems that there are 3 approaches to contest CW with KX3:

1. Extra keyers

2. Changes to contest packages

3. Modified USB/serial cable (most likely)

For the last point, it seems that KX3 control port is just serial port with
RX/TX at 4800 baud, changeable to 38.4k.  If one has a plain USB/serial
cable, one needs to concoct two cables: one for RX/TX and the other for CW,
possibly with a  transistor buffer. I am not sure whether something like
this has been suggested in another thread.

4. Option 3 made as new cable by Elecraft. 

Option 2 is best IMHO for KX3 followed by 4 if we convince Elecraft (or
third party) to do it.

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[Elecraft] KX3 and powerful SSB

2012-08-10 Thread Ignacy
My KX3 came yesterday. I used a small, extremely bassy, computer microphone.
Used TX eq to cut basses and boost 1.6k and 2.4k. Used speech processing of
10 and 20. Very nice output when monitored on K3; the monitor of KX3 sounded
different (too sharp). 

Worked a number of Europeans. Max speech processing (30) seemed to generated
the best reports. 

I will do more tests but most likely KX3 excels as SSB radio. Also any mic
works. PTT not much needed as VOX is there and manual PTT too. 

I will do more tests today. It seems that 10W in KX3 may be as good as 50W
in radios without good processor/equalizer. 

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Re: [Elecraft] Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

2012-08-10 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

RUMPed/RUMLog is unique because it is written for Apple by one person
for his own use/his own equipment.   It does not support the Windows
environment and multiple transceiver protocols.  Tom can concentrate
on optimizing operation with the K3 (and KX3 to the extent it works
the same as the K3).

  2. Changes to contest packages

While I can't say for Win-Test, I have often heard developers for the
other packages say they will not support a CW over CAT interface
as it is simply not cost effective given the limited number of rigs
that it would serve and the need to do multiple versions to support
Elecraft, Kenwood, and the limited number of Icom models with similar
capability.  All of the big three and most other contest *and* day
to day loggers support CW by DTR and WinKey.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 8/10/2012 9:04 AM, Ignacy wrote:
 That RUMped works well with KX3 software scheme means that it can be done.
 Even if not perfect, this would stop taking other interfaces/CW keyers,
 cables, etc. If KX3 is small but extra boxes take twice as much space, how
 good is it?

 So it seems that there are 3 approaches to contest CW with KX3:

 1. Extra keyers

 2. Changes to contest packages

 3. Modified USB/serial cable (most likely)

 For the last point, it seems that KX3 control port is just serial port with
 RX/TX at 4800 baud, changeable to 38.4k.  If one has a plain USB/serial
 cable, one needs to concoct two cables: one for RX/TX and the other for CW,
 possibly with a  transistor buffer. I am not sure whether something like
 this has been suggested in another thread.

 4. Option 3 made as new cable by Elecraft.

 Option 2 is best IMHO for KX3 followed by 4 if we convince Elecraft (or
 third party) to do it.

 Ignacy, NO9E







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Re: [Elecraft] {K3 KX3} Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

2012-08-10 Thread Ignacy
Chuck,

Sounds great. Lots of functionality in your package.

You write K3 keyer does not provide all of the functionality of the WinKey,
a case in point being the Ultimatic keying mode. What is this mode?

Your software runs for many contests. Can it be adapted to run in DX
pedition mode? Possibly with comments?

Ignacy, NO9E



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Re: [Elecraft] splash

2012-08-10 Thread Ray Sills
Hi Thomas:

Excellent idea.  And, it also brings up the point that if one sells  
an Elecraft product to someone else, it would be a proper gesture to  
notify Elecraft of the new owner's name and contact info, so that  
there is a record of the new ownership.  The second owner would be  
able to draw on that if the equipment happened to be stolen from him.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211

On Aug 10, 2012, at 5:32 AM, Thomas Horsten wrote:

 Except it's very easy to change if you know what you're doing :)  
 Better to
 rely on the serial number, while not impossible to change it's a  
 lot harder.

 For the purpose of proving ownership in case of theft, I have my name,
 callsign and email address on Dymo strips a couple of places inside  
 my KX3
 and K3 (no details here,  be creative :). But I also have  
 insurance, so if
 the worst should happen I'd be covered.

 73, Thomas M0TRN

 On 10 August 2012 05:00, vk4tux vk4...@bigpond.com wrote:

 This is very useful if your beloved K3 gets stolen (prove  
 ownership), lost
 or otherwise missing.

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Re: [Elecraft] splash

2012-08-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
The K3 and KX3 contain a menu entry which holds the serial number, and 
that cannot be changed.  Traceable to the original purchaser at Elecraft.

Yes, the power-on splash is easy to change with K3 Utility..
73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/10/2012 5:32 AM, Thomas Horsten wrote:
 Except it's very easy to change if you know what you're doing :) Better to
 rely on the serial number, while not impossible to change it's a lot harder.

 For the purpose of proving ownership in case of theft, I have my name,
 callsign and email address on Dymo strips a couple of places inside my KX3
 and K3 (no details here,  be creative :). But I also have insurance, so if
 the worst should happen I'd be covered.

 73, Thomas M0TRN

 On 10 August 2012 05:00, vk4tux vk4...@bigpond.com wrote:

 This is very useful if your beloved K3 gets stolen (prove ownership), lost
 or otherwise missing.

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Re: [Elecraft] {K3 KX3} Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

2012-08-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ultimatic is an absolutely wonderful keying mode (and the only one I can 
use with dual lever paddles).  It gives priority to the last paddle closed.
In other words, close the dah lever, and you get dahs - but then close 
the dot lever, and you then get dots even though both paddles are now 
closed.
No alternating nonsense.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/10/2012 9:49 AM, Ignacy wrote:
 You write K3 keyer does not provide all of the functionality of the WinKey,
 a case in point being the Ultimatic keying mode. What is this mode?


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[Elecraft] K3 RF Feedback

2012-08-10 Thread Stewart
Started getting RF feedback on 40m. 

Found that by moving the microphone socket on the K3's front panel I could make 
the problem come and go.

Suspecting a shield earth problem I made a solder connection between the loop 
of tinned copper wire
and the socket metal shield. For extra security I soldered a length of small 
copper braid between the shield
and the GND via on the PCB.

Not only has this got rid of the RF feedback, but the mic connector no longer 
rotates to bug the heck out of me !

73
Stewart G3RXQ


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[Elecraft] K1 - How long to build?

2012-08-10 Thread greg fripp
i am disabled, and  friend is building a two band k1 or me.
i  want to know how long it  takes.
i should also  mention that it also has a back light kit,and an antenna
tuner.
your thoughts appreciated
greg



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Re: [Elecraft] {K3 KX3} Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

2012-08-10 Thread Charles Sanders
 ... the Ultimatic keying mode. What is this mode?
Don has provided a concise description. If you would like more details here
is a nice writeup

http://fermi.la.asu.edu/w9cf/articles/ultimatic.pdf

Your software runs for many contests. Can it be adapted to run in
DXpedition mode? Possibly with comments?
You can setup to log all info typed into the QSO Entry window in a log
separate from the main log. So in that sense the answer is yes. However,
there are probably other aspects of the dxpedition mode that it does not
currently support.

73/Chuck/NO5W
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[Elecraft] K3 PWR jammed

2012-08-10 Thread Benny Aumala
Trying to adjust power output, the potmeter do not react
but VFO B gives reading LOCKED. Power is fixed in 100W.

Difficult to find reason in Owners Manual.

Benny   OH9NB
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 - How long to build?

2012-08-10 Thread Gil G.
Hello Greg,

I built mine in two days… But I would not suggest doing that.
I'd say, the fastest you should go might be:
Front panel: One session.
Filter board: One session.
RF board: Two sessions.
Auto tuner: One session.
Tuning  testing: One session.

So, at one session (a few hours) per day, I would say six days is reasonable.

Gil.
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On Aug 10, 2012, at 11:27 AM, greg fripp wrote:

 i am disabled, and  friend is building a two band k1 or me.
 i  want to know how long it  takes.
 i should also  mention that it also has a back light kit,and an antenna
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 your thoughts appreciated
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[Elecraft] For Sale: Complete K-Line Cover set by Rose Kopp

2012-08-10 Thread David Inger
I have for sale covers for the K3, P3 and KPA500.  These are the covers
crafted by Rose Kopp N7HKW of Elecraft Covers.  If you are not familiar with
these beautiful products, pictures can be seen on the Elecraft website.
Scroll down to the bottom of the main page and you will find a link to her
covers.
 
These covers are in excellent as-new condition from a non-smoking household.
They are black with gold embroidery.  The lettering has the Elecraft logo,
Elecraft name and model number; no callsigns or any other lettering.
 
These covers are excess to my needs.  I want to sell all three as a package
for $60 including Priority Mail Mail shipping to any US ZIP code.
 
Please contact me off-reflector at ingerassocia...@cox.net. 
 
73 de K6SBA
David in Santa Barbara, CA
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 PWR jammed

2012-08-10 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Benny,

CONFIG:PWR SET
tap 1 button

73,
Mike K2MK


Benny Aumala-2 wrote
 
 Trying to adjust power output, the potmeter do not react
 but VFO B gives reading LOCKED. Power is fixed in 100W.
 
 Difficult to find reason in Owners Manual.
 
 Benny   OH9NB
 




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 PWR jammed

2012-08-10 Thread John Chappell G3XRJ
Benny,

CONFIG: PWR SET -  toggle key 1

John G3XRJ


 Trying to adjust power output, the potmeter do not react
 but VFO B gives reading LOCKED. Power is fixed in 100W.

 Difficult to find reason in Owners Manual.

 Benny   OH9NB



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Pets in the Shack

2012-08-10 Thread Jack West
Hi Guys,

Back in my Commodore-64 days I used to run Digicom which was a German Packet 
program. One night my cat PJ
slept on the keyboard. This program would transmit anytime a key was pushed. My 
cat sent endless rows of
various letters and numbers all night long.

I printed a few pages out and sent them to my buddy in Montana and explained 
what 
had happened.

A few days later I received in the mail printouts from
his Digicom station that were simular.

The caption was: :FROM MY CAT TO YOUR CAT

73 de
Jack / W7LD / Lucky Dog


- Original Message - 
From: Dick Roth--KA1OZ raro...@gmail.com
To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 10:40 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Pets in the Shack


I have two furry family members who often visit me when I'm
 operating...and often come into the shack when I'm not there.
 Naturally, being cats, they climb all over the place including my
 operating position.

 Heres a tip:  if you leave your radio on when you aren't present, engage
 Tx TEST to prevent accidental carrier transmission if they want to try
 out their fists on your keys.

 Sure, I could shut the station off, but I tend to cling to my old ways
 when I used hollow state gear (last rig before the K3 was a National
 NCX-3) and it required long warm-ups.

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[Elecraft] KDSP2 Audio Filters

2012-08-10 Thread KC9QQ
I recently constructed and installed the KDSP2 in my K2.  I installed it
after I had installed and aligned the KSB2 using Spectrogram.  I notice that
the KDSP2 seems to work wonderful in CW, but when I am listening to SSB
signals the audio sounds as if it is passing through a tin can. 

I saw in another post a discussion on adjusting the AF1..AF4 in addition to
the FL1..FL4.  Is this done using CAL FIL or must this be done within the
KDSP2 menus settings?

I saw the following post on adjusting the KDSP2 audio filters, but the
process to use is not obvious to me:

/You do it just the way you would without the DSP unit. 
First select the pitch you want to have at the center of the filter. 
I use about 550 Hz here. 
Then adjust the KDSP2 for the narrowest setting you want to use, 
say 100 Hz, centered on the pitch you have selected.  Now do 
the adjustments to the crystal filter at its narrowest bandwidth 
until you see the most even symmetrical passband curve. 

Now step the DSP unit to the next wider bandwidth you want, and do 
the same for the crystal filter.  Again adjust the crystal filter 
for the best looking curve at that bandwidth.  Keep doing this up 
to the widest bandwidth of the crystal and DSP filters.  For 
convenience I use the same bandwidth in both filters at a given 
selection setting--XF1=AF1, XF2=AF2, etc. 

Good luck and 73 
Bob N6WG 
The Little Station with Attitude 
/

Thanks,

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[Elecraft] K3: Setting up WriteLog software to toggle KDVR3

2012-08-10 Thread Frederick Atchley
I need help setting up WriteLog ver11 to toggle The KDVR3.

Based on the manual, I've set keyboard shortcuts for four unused keyboard
characters: ( [ ), ( ] ), ( \ ) and ( = ). WriteLog accepted these as:

Rig1Command(10)

Rig2Command(11)

Rig3Command(12) and 

Rig4Command(13)

I then added the following K3 KDVR3 commands (i.e. SWT21 should toggle M1)
to writelog.ini that resides in the Windows file:

[Elecraft_K3_Commands]

Macro_10=SWT21;

Macro_11=SWT31;

Macro_12=SWT35;

Macro_13=SWT39;

When everything is up and running, I get the following indications when I
press the keyboard shortcuts:

[ - Error result 1 sending rig command (10)

] - Error result 1 sending rig command (11)

\ - Error result 1 sending rig command (12)

= - Error result -3 sending rig command (13)

Note: the WriteLog K3 interface driver is working FB for logging, Frequency
tracking and CW messages for F1, F2 . etc.

The K3 firmware version is 4.39 and the hardware interface is a microHam USB
Interface II (serial# 001)

That's it in a nutshell. Thanks in advance for any help from the Elecraft
blog.

73, Fred, ae...@cox.net

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 PWR jammed

2012-08-10 Thread Benny Aumala
Thank you, G3XRJ and K2MK.
You made my day!

// CONFIG:PWR SET
tap 1 button //



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[Elecraft] Headset for K2 K3

2012-08-10 Thread Stanton A. Bailey
I have a K2 and I'm currently building a K1.  I have a KX3 on order (who
doesn't!).
I'm also using a Ten-Tec Orion II but would like a K3 in the near future.

I would like to go with a headset but have heard mixed reviews about the
Heil Pro Set sold by Elecraft.
I had a Pro Set Elite and it was big, hot, uncomfortable and I sold it...
but it had a great mic and loved 
the audio while I could stand wearing them.  BTW to be fair the Pro Set
Elite was OK until I would switch
from my contacts to glasses.  They sat right my your ears and crush my ears
into my eye-glass frames.

So what would you suggest?  

TNX ES 73
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Re: [Elecraft] WTB a MH2 Microphone

2012-08-10 Thread Stanton A. Bailey
Got one!
Thanks John.

Stan AE7UT



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Re: [Elecraft] Headset for K2 K3

2012-08-10 Thread Robert G. Strickland
Stan...

Lots of us have been satisfied with the Yamaha CM500. It costs around 
$50 from various vendors. I wear glasses, and it has been comfortable 
for me. The sound from the mike has received favorable responses in on 
the air evaluations.

...robert


On 8/10/2012 18:35, Stanton A. Bailey wrote:
 I have a K2 and I'm currently building a K1.  I have a KX3 on order (who
 doesn't!).
 I'm also using a Ten-Tec Orion II but would like a K3 in the near future.

 I would like to go with a headset but have heard mixed reviews about the
 Heil Pro Set sold by Elecraft.
 I had a Pro Set Elite and it was big, hot, uncomfortable and I sold it...
 but it had a great mic and loved
 the audio while I could stand wearing them.  BTW to be fair the Pro Set
 Elite was OK until I would switch
 from my contacts to glasses.  They sat right my your ears and crush my ears
 into my eye-glass frames.

 So what would you suggest?

 TNX ES 73
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[Elecraft] KX3 Sherwood RX Test Numbers Posted

2012-08-10 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
See:
http://www.sherweng.com/table.html

:-)

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Re: [Elecraft] Headset for K2 K3

2012-08-10 Thread Dave Hachadorian
Lots of us have been satisfied with the Yamaha CM500.

The CM500 is available now from Amazon at $44.99, with free
shipping, and no tax. That's about as low as it gets.
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-CM500-Headset-Built-Microphone/dp/B000BZ6ZX0


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[Elecraft] [OT] Remoting with iPad/iPhone - Testers Needed

2012-08-10 Thread Nick Garner
Howdy Folks,
I'm N3WG, the HamLog/Pigtail guy.  Something I've been asked for often, and
something I've wanted to do for a while, is get bi-directional audio built
into HamLog on iOS devices.  Over the past week I've got it working to
where I have rig control of a radio at home with audio streaming for both
TX and RX, no Skype needed.  The first implementation of the software that
runs at home with your radio is in the form of a Mac App.

I have a demo video of it up here with a K3 and KX3:
http://youtu.be/2pWIGSrwHwU

I will be needing additional testers (about 5)  in about 2 weeks.  If you
have a Mac computer and an iPhone and/or iPad and would like to help out,
please visit http://etherpig.com and enter your email in the newsletter
form.  If you're not comfortable entering your email address in the
website, feel free to email me directly and I'll add you to my list.

73,
Nick
N3WG
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Sherwood RX Test Numbers Posted

2012-08-10 Thread Mark Kachel
Wow!!!

Mark, NØOKS
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Sherwood RX Test Numbers Posted

2012-08-10 Thread ab2tc
Hi,

Wow, the number 1 spot! That's incredible. Congratulations. I am especially
surprised and impressed by the phase noise performance. I had the impression
that the synth in the KX3 wasn't that great for phase noise, being a DDS
without a cleanup PLL.

AB2TC - Knut


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Setting up WriteLog software to toggle KDVR3

2012-08-10 Thread Jim N7US
The question was answered on the Writelog reflector:

http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/WriteLog/2011-11/msg00064.html 

73, Jim N7US



-Original Message-

I need help setting up WriteLog ver11 to toggle The KDVR3.

Based on the manual, I've set keyboard shortcuts for four unused keyboard
characters: ( [ ), ( ] ), ( \ ) and ( = ). WriteLog accepted these as:

Rig1Command(10)

Rig2Command(11)

Rig3Command(12) and 

Rig4Command(13)

I then added the following K3 KDVR3 commands (i.e. SWT21 should toggle M1)
to writelog.ini that resides in the Windows file:

[Elecraft_K3_Commands]

Macro_10=SWT21;

Macro_11=SWT31;

Macro_12=SWT35;

Macro_13=SWT39;

When everything is up and running, I get the following indications when I
press the keyboard shortcuts:

[ - Error result 1 sending rig command (10)

] - Error result 1 sending rig command (11)

\ - Error result 1 sending rig command (12)

= - Error result -3 sending rig command (13)

Note: the WriteLog K3 interface driver is working FB for logging, Frequency
tracking and CW messages for F1, F2 . etc.

The K3 firmware version is 4.39 and the hardware interface is a microHam USB
Interface II (serial# 001)

That's it in a nutshell. Thanks in advance for any help from the Elecraft
blog.

73, Fred, ae...@cox.net




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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Setting up WriteLog software to toggle KDVR3

2012-08-10 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Fred,

The number between Rig and Command must be your COM port number. So if you
are using COM 1 for the K3 then all four of your macros should say
Rig1Command(xx). (I don't know if a Microham interface affects this
situation).

Also, make sure your macro definitions are in the correct writelog.ini file.
I know there are true ini files and mirror image ini files. I run Vista and
my ini file is in the Windows directory but this may not be true for all
operating systems. Be very careful. And your definitions should be preceded
by the following:
[Elecraft_K3_commands]

73,
Mike K2MK



Fred Atchley-2 wrote
 
 I need help setting up WriteLog ver11 to toggle The KDVR3.
 
 Based on the manual, I've set keyboard shortcuts for four unused keyboard
 characters: ( [ ), ( ] ), ( \ ) and ( = ). WriteLog accepted these as:
 
 Rig1Command(10)
 
 Rig2Command(11)
 
 Rig3Command(12) and 
 
 Rig4Command(13)
 
 I then added the following K3 KDVR3 commands (i.e. SWT21 should toggle M1)
 to writelog.ini that resides in the Windows file:
 
 [Elecraft_K3_Commands]
 
 Macro_10=SWT21;
 
 Macro_11=SWT31;
 
 Macro_12=SWT35;
 
 Macro_13=SWT39;
 
 When everything is up and running, I get the following indications when I
 press the keyboard shortcuts:
 
 [ - Error result 1 sending rig command (10)
 
 ] - Error result 1 sending rig command (11)
 
 \ - Error result 1 sending rig command (12)
 
 = - Error result -3 sending rig command (13)
 
 Note: the WriteLog K3 interface driver is working FB for logging,
 Frequency
 tracking and CW messages for F1, F2 . etc.
 
 The K3 firmware version is 4.39 and the hardware interface is a microHam
 USB
 Interface II (serial# 001)
 
 That's it in a nutshell. Thanks in advance for any help from the Elecraft
 blog.
 
 73, Fred, AE6IC@
 




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Sherwood RX Test Numbers Posted

2012-08-10 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
That's because Its not a DDS. :-)

73,

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On 8/10/2012 12:26 PM, ab2tc wrote:
 Hi,

 Wow, the number 1 spot! That's incredible. Congratulations. I am especially
 surprised and impressed by the phase noise performance. I had the impression
 that the synth in the KX3 wasn't that great for phase noise, being a DDS
 without a cleanup PLL.

 AB2TC - Knut


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Sherwood RX Test Numbers Posted

2012-08-10 Thread Bob
Oh snap -- there goes the value of my K3!

Fantastic job, Elecraft!

73, Bob, WB4SON
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Sherwood RX Test Numbers Posted

2012-08-10 Thread Jon Kåre Hellan
On 08/10/2012 08:09 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
 See:
 http://www.sherweng.com/table.html

 :-)

 73,


Footnote v: At 1 kHz performance is opposite sideband rejection 
limited. On CW consider switching to 8-kHz IF. Note: Roofing filter 
disabled in this mode.

What does that mean?

73
Jon LA4RT
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Sherwood RX Test Numbers Posted

2012-08-10 Thread Jim Brown
Great numbers!  Wayne has outdone himself again.

Can you explain note v?

73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Sherwood RX Test Numbers Posted

2012-08-10 Thread Tony Estep
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft 
e...@elecraft.com wrote:

 See:
 http://www.sherweng.com/table.html

 

Holy cow! I guess the combo of the KX3's cool SDR design and that unique
baseband roofing filter is the winning recipe!

Tony KT0NY

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Sherwood RX Test Numbers Posted

2012-08-10 Thread Keith Heimbold
Double wow! I can't wait to see what they say on some of the other reflectors 
about this game changer!

Congrats Elecraft! 

Keith 
AG6AZ

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On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Mark Kachel kach...@wi.rr.com wrote:

 Wow!!!
 
 Mark, NØOKS
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Sherwood RX Test Numbers Posted

2012-08-10 Thread Wayne Burdick
Jim Brown wrote:

 Can you explain note v?

Hi Jim,

Footnote 'v' (on the 2-kHz IMD) actually refers to a measurement at a  
1-kHz spacing, which is not part of the comparison table:

v:   At 1 kHz, performance is opposite-sideband rejection limited.

As you know, a quadrature direct-conversion receiver (such as the KX3  
or the Flex radios) depends on gain/phase balance to suppress the  
opposite-sideband signal. What Rob is referring to, here, is that when  
you do an IMDDR3 test at a very close offset (say 1 kHz), with the  
roofing filters enabled (i.e., using a zero I.F.), then the opposite- 
sideband signal might dominate the measurement. (This depends on the  
relationship between the interfering signal and the desired signal.)  
In his case this limited the measurement to an equivalent DR of 65 dB.

Our main goal for the KX3 was to provide maximum portability yet all- 
band/all-mode coverage. If your goal is to get the absolute best DR at  
very close spacings, then the K3 would be the better choice, given its  
narrow crystal filters and nearly infinite opposite sideband rejection.

I'll expand on this topic later.

73,
Wayne
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[Elecraft] K3 / 10 / kit for sale

2012-08-10 Thread Mark Kachel
K3 / 10 / Kit for sale. Serial number 4960. Assembled 12/20/2010. Up to date 
firmware. Standard, 2.7 kHz filter. Only options are 1,000 and 400 Hz filters. 
About 2,500 QSOs, mostly CW but some SSB and PSK. Works fine, no issues. 
Includes original manuals, power cord, serial cable, parallel port CW keying 
cable and two cables for computer interface for PSK. Will also include Yamaha 
CM 500 head phones with boom mic. I kept a piece of paper on top of the rig so 
there is no dust inside. Shipped in original box and then a larger box with 
padding all around. $1,600 plus shipping. Mark, NØOKS, kach...@wi.rr.com

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Sherwood RX Test Numbers Posted

2012-08-10 Thread ab2tc
Hi,

I am always curious about synthesizer technology utilized in new radios. If
it's not DDS, then what is is it?

AB2TC - Knut


Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote
 
 That's because Its not a DDS. :-)
 
 73,
 
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[Elecraft] FOR SALE - K3/100 and accessories

2012-08-10 Thread KM5Q
FOR SALE

K3/100  S/N 764 
Perfect condition / non-smoking / never portable or mobile
low mileage / original owner
All original paperwork, invoices, updated manual with handwritten notes.
Heard many times on the Elecraft SSB Net.   

---  Current NEW PRICES SHOWN for reference only:
K3/100  
$2250  (bare)

Options installed:
KAT3 Auto antenna tuner / 2 ant switch  $300

filters: 2.8 kHz 8-pole upgrade $130
2.1 kHz 8-pole  $140
500 kHz 5-pole  $90
13 kHz FM filter (for wide AM SW reception)   $140
KBPF3 General coverage rcv. module  $150
KXV3 Transverter/IF interface   $120
KDVR Digital Voice Recorder $130
KUSB Serial/USB adapter $40

knobs updated from early cracking problem
firmware 4.48

TOTAL 2012 NEW PRICE  $3490
TOTAL SELLING PRICE  $2600  including ground shipping cont. US



Accessories for K3:
Kenwood MC-43 hand mic
external speakers, passive
Gamma HPS1-a micro power supply
Astron SS-25 switching power supply
CW Touch Keyer  

ALL THE ABOVE ACCESSORIES TOTAL $200 IF PURCHASED  with the K3

I'm selling due to waning interest and moving to smaller home.

Windy Dankoff  KM5Q
Santa Fe, NM
(505) 466-4280
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Re: [Elecraft] For Sale: Complete K-Line Cover set by Rose Kopp

2012-08-10 Thread David Inger
The covers have been sold.  Thanks to all those who inquired about them.
 
73 de K6SBA
David in Santa Barbara, CA
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Sherwood RX Test Numbers Posted

2012-08-10 Thread Wayne Burdick
Bob wrote:

 Oh snap -- there goes the value of my K3!

Not :)

The two are very different in ways not apparent by their close  
listings in the table. See my next post.

Wayne
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[Elecraft] KX3 and K3 Performance (and the Sherwood Table)

2012-08-10 Thread Wayne Burdick
You may have noticed that Rob Sherwood, NC0B, has added the KX3 to his  
receiver performance table (http://www.sherweng.com/table.html). Rob's  
test procedure is very similar to our own, so we're not surprised to  
see these excellent results.

Both the K3 and KX3 are near the top of the chart. Like other  
receivers in this range, they can handle crowded band conditions. But  
the two rigs have completely different receiver architectures, with  
different strengths.

The KX3 uses an architecture similar to many PC-based SDRs (software  
defined radios), with direct conversion to base-band (AF) or to a very  
low I.F. This architecture takes fewer components than a multi- 
conversion superhet, facilitating a low-current, ultra-portable  
implementation. That was our primary goal for the KX3. It also allows  
us to provide a direct sound-card output for use with SDR programs  
such as HDSDR that offer a panadapter (spectral display) and other  
features.

(The K3 is also an SDR, in that the DSP and MCU code can be quickly  
and easily udpated to add new modulation/demodulation techniques, etc.  
However, adding a spectral display to the K3 requires other hardware,  
such as the P3 panadapter.)

In contrast, the K3 uses a classic superhet architecture: it down- 
converts to a medium I.F. (in this case 8.2 MHz), where it is possible  
to use very narrow crystal filters. With an appropriate narrow filter  
selected, the K3 can provide extremely high dynamic range at close  
spacings. Its crystal filters and 15-kHz second I.F. provide nearly  
infinite opposite-sideband rejection, as well as very high blocking  
dynamic range.

If you're considering purchasing a K3 or KX3, but you're not sure  
which one would be best for you, I'd offer this advice: If you plan to  
do a lot of portable operation, or have limited space at home, the KX3  
is ideal. If you want the absolute best possible close-in dynamic  
range performance in contest or pile-up conditions (under 2 kHz  
spacing), go with the K3.

The K3 also has an internal 100-W amplifier option. The KX3's 100-W  
amp will be external--well suited to a mobile installation, for example.

73,
Wayne
N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] {K3 KX3} Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

2012-08-10 Thread W2RU - Bud Hippisley
Yay!  I second that motion, Don!

I've been a fan of Ultimatic mode since it first came out in QST as a vacuum 
tube keyer from a W6 in the mid-50s.  Later I built the transistorized version 
that was in QST in the early 60s.  But nothing's as easy as building a WinKeyer 
kit with it in it!  Steve did all the heavy lifting.

Ultimatic mode also includes dot or dash insertion.  Make a Q, for 
instance, by holding the dash lever closed through the entire character 
formation and flick the dot lever after the start of the second dash to insert 
the single dot.

It's nice to have the K3's built-in keyer when going portable.  But -- like Don 
-- I have a lot of trouble using the Iambic algorithms with dual-lever paddles, 
so at the home station I use a WK2 and when I'm traveling I use a single-lever 
paddle.

Bud, W2RU

On Aug 10, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Ultimatic is an absolutely wonderful keying mode (and the only one I can 
 use with dual lever paddles).  It gives priority to the last paddle closed.
 In other words, close the dah lever, and you get dahs - but then close 
 the dot lever, and you then get dots even though both paddles are now 
 closed.
 No alternating nonsense.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 8/10/2012 9:49 AM, Ignacy wrote:
 You write K3 keyer does not provide all of the functionality of the WinKey,
 a case in point being the Ultimatic keying mode. What is this mode?
 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Sherwood RX Test Numbers Posted

2012-08-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2012 10 Aug 13:09 -0500, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
 See:
 http://www.sherweng.com/table.html

Well, I guess it's time to dump the old K3...


:-D


Good show, Eric and Wayne.

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[Elecraft] K1 Frequency range.

2012-08-10 Thread Stan AE7UT
I'm getting to the point I have to choose the frequency range.
I'm pretty new to CW, with about 5 months operating.
My favorite places have been 7.050'ish and 7.115'ish.
I would say 90% of my operating has been there because I'm usually on late
at night.
I'm probably going to be using this rig for camping with a portable antenna
so I'm sure I'll be using more of 30, 20 and 15 meters.  

Any help would be very welcome.

TNS ES 73
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Sherwood RX Test Numbers Posted

2012-08-10 Thread Matt Maguire
Jim,

This is my understanding of note v:

The KX3 is a direct conversion architecture, and relies of the I  Q signals to 
cancel out opposite sideband. For this cancellation to work, the balance of 
amplitude and phase needs to be very precise, and it looks like Elecraft have 
managed to get the image to be 65dB down, which is very good.

Based on the note v comment, it seems for the case of CW, this image will 
normally occur 1kHz away from the desired signal. If you have a close-in signal 
1kHz away, then what you can do is enable 8kHz shift, which means the image is 
now 16 kHz away. Now the close-in dynamic range is 96dB, since the roofing 
filter can't be used with the 8kHz IF. Of course, if you are unlucky enough to 
have a strong signal 16kHz away (on the other side of your LO), then this 
signal will be down 65dB.

73, Matt VK2ACL

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 Great numbers!  Wayne has outdone himself again.
 
 Can you explain note v?
 
 73, Jim K9YC
 
 
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[Elecraft] K1 Frequency range.

2012-08-10 Thread Gil G .
 
 Hi Stan,
 
 I set mine up for 150kHz. I don't find it difficult at all to use, the only 
 exception being for LSB signals on 40m. Otherwise, no problem. For 15m, 
 you'll be happy to have the extra bandwidth.
 
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 On Aug 10, 2012, at 5:21 PM, Stan AE7UT wrote:
 
 I'm getting to the point I have to choose the frequency range.
 I'm pretty new to CW, with about 5 months operating.
 My favorite places have been 7.050'ish and 7.115'ish.
 I would say 90% of my operating has been there because I'm usually on late
 at night.
 I'm probably going to be using this rig for camping with a portable antenna
 so I'm sure I'll be using more of 30, 20 and 15 meters.  
 
 Any help would be very welcome.
 
 TNS ES 73
 Stan AE7UT.

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[Elecraft] FS New K3/10

2012-08-10 Thread Alan Price

I am selling my brand new K3/10.  Serial number 06584.  I won the radio and 
really want a K2, so I am selling the K3 fully built.  I am asking $1500 for 
the radio delivered to your front door.  No shipping (and no tax if you happen 
to live in California).  Please respond to Alan, w1...@arrl.net off of the 
reflector.
 
73
Hank  
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Sherwood RX Test Numbers Posted

2012-08-10 Thread Wayne Burdick
DDS-driven PLL, like the K3. Just a different, highly integrated  
version of it.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Aug 10, 2012, at 1:39 PM, ab2tc wrote:

 Hi,

 I am always curious about synthesizer technology utilized in new  
 radios. If
 it's not DDS, then what is is it?

 AB2TC - Knut


 Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote

 That's because Its not a DDS. :-)

 73,

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[Elecraft] Sherwood ranking

2012-08-10 Thread Buck k4ia
Very well done indeed.  But, I am confused.  How is the ranking decided? 
  Is it subjective or is there a formula?
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Re: [Elecraft] Sherwood ranking

2012-08-10 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Buck k4ia k...@aol.com wrote:
 Very well done indeed.  But, I am confused.  How is the ranking decided?
   Is it subjective or is there a formula?

As it says at the top, the table is sorted by Dynamic Range Narrow Spaced.

73,

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Re: [Elecraft] Sherwood ranking

2012-08-10 Thread Barry N1EU

Buck k4ia wrote
 
 How is the ranking decided?  Is it subjective or is there a formula?
 

It's ranked by Rob's narrow spaced dynamic range measurement.

Barry N1EU




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Re: [Elecraft] Sherwood ranking

2012-08-10 Thread Gary Gregory
*Barry,

Perhaps more to the point..How does the measurement from Sherwood relate to
real time performance and usability for the operator?

In what way does an operator detect a difference so small between say the
top 3 on the list?

Is the price differential worth buying say position one in the rankings
over a transceiver ranked at 2 or 3?

Whilst the ranking may be valid in the single measurement as shown, in the
real world the vast majority are unlikely to ever detect such a small
difference if all the top 3 ranked units were sitting in the shack side by
side etc.

I guess it comes down to which one looks the prettiest:-)

Oh yeah, beauty IS in the eye of the beholder right? (I say this everyday
when looking in the mirror in the hope I don't scare myself too much)

Gary
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On 11 August 2012 07:53, Barry N1EU barry.n...@gmail.com wrote:


 Buck k4ia wrote
 
  How is the ranking decided?  Is it subjective or is there a formula?
 

 It's ranked by Rob's narrow spaced dynamic range measurement.

 Barry N1EU




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[Elecraft] VFO A = VFO B

2012-08-10 Thread Scott Dunlavey
I am not sure what I changed...  The receivers are NOT linked... checked 
that
If I change frequency by manually entering it in... it will change the 
sub rx as well...  for example... in VFO A  14.300 VFO B 14.300... If I 
enter 14.050 they both change to 14.050same happens if I use 
BAND..they both change  ( I can however change frequency if I use 
the tuning nob

I was in the CONFIG earlier... so good chance I changed something... I 
did a look but just not sure


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Re: [Elecraft] Sherwood ranking

2012-08-10 Thread Wayne Burdick
Rob sorts the table based on IMDDR3 at a 2-kHz spacing. This is the  
second-to-last column of the table.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Aug 10, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Buck k4ia wrote:

 Very well done indeed.  But, I am confused.  How is the ranking  
 decided?
  Is it subjective or is there a formula?
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[Elecraft] Elecraft] {K3 KX3} Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

2012-08-10 Thread Mercury
Maybe I'm missing something, Bud, but I send the letter Q the same way with 
Iambic B keying. Hold the dah paddle for the duration of the letter and tap the 
dit at the appropriate place. No need to let up on the dah paddle. Is there 
some other characteristic that distinguishes Ulimatic from Iambic B? I've never 
used Ultimatic keying but hear a lot of folks rave about it. I do just fine 
with Iambic B but mess up big time with Iambic A. To each his own.

73 - Will, AI4VE

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[Elecraft] K3 Filter Settings

2012-08-10 Thread Thomas Rieff
I have 2 K-3's in SO2R configuration with a basic 2.7 Khz and 400 hz
filters.
When listening to RTTY and the filter is wide open there will be a lot of
signals.
Turning the filter to 400 Hz the signals seem to just about disappear with
only the very strong ones audible/visible. Where am I a miss in my setup???
Tom
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Re: [Elecraft] Sherwood ranking

2012-08-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
In real world operating, it is an indicator of how much a signal 1 kHz 
away will interfere with the desired signal you are trying to copy.  The 
greater the dynamic range, the stronger that undesired signal can be and 
still allow you to copy.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/10/2012 6:06 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
 *Barry,

 Perhaps more to the point..How does the measurement from Sherwood relate to
 real time performance and usability for the operator?

 In what way does an operator detect a difference so small between say the
 top 3 on the list?

 Is the price differential worth buying say position one in the rankings
 over a transceiver ranked at 2 or 3?

 Whilst the ranking may be valid in the single measurement as shown, in the
 real world the vast majority are unlikely to ever detect such a small
 difference if all the top 3 ranked units were sitting in the shack side by
 side etc.

 I guess it comes down to which one looks the prettiest:-)

 Oh yeah, beauty IS in the eye of the beholder right? (I say this everyday
 when looking in the mirror in the hope I don't scare myself too much)

 Gary
 *
 On 11 August 2012 07:53, Barry N1EU barry.n...@gmail.com wrote:

 Buck k4ia wrote
 How is the ranking decided?  Is it subjective or is there a formula?

 It's ranked by Rob's narrow spaced dynamic range measurement.

 Barry N1EU




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter Settings

2012-08-10 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Thomas Rieff k0yr...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have 2 K-3's in SO2R configuration with a basic 2.7 Khz and 400 hz
 filters.
 When listening to RTTY and the filter is wide open there will be a lot of
 signals.
 Turning the filter to 400 Hz the signals seem to just about disappear with
 only the very strong ones audible/visible. Where am I a miss in my setup???

Disappear where?

I suspect you're using software that's configured with a different
mark frequency than the K3 (use the PITCH) control in AFSK A or FSK D
data sub-modes.

73,

~iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] {K3 KX3} Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

2012-08-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
Will,

The distinguishing characteristic is that it does not alternate between 
dits and dahs.
You are correct, that a dingle dot insertion can work the same way in 
either case, and by the same reasoning, a single dash insertion. but if 
you send a character like Z, you close the DAH paddle and get the 
first DAH off, then after the 2nd DAH starts, close the DIT paddle (you 
do not have to take your finger off the DAH paddle) and it will begin 
sending a string of DITS - get both fingers off the paddle after the 2nd 
dit has started.

Or take the letter B - DAH first, then close the DIT paddle - it does 
not mater much whether you take your finger off the DAH paddle or not, 
it will send 3 dits as long as you do not lift the finger from the dit 
paddle.  The last paddle closed takes priority.

There are many other examples where Ultimatic is easier - but the timing 
is not as critical as it is for the Iambic alternating dots and dashes 
system.

I think Iambic was a mistake created by the Curtis chip manufactures and 
salesmen (OK, I am ignoring the Accukeyer, I admit that) - but the 
original Ultimatic mode was easier to my mind, and it is more like bug 
keying that any other keyer mode - except the bug will not do a string 
of DAHs, only dits.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/10/2012 6:13 PM, Mercury wrote:
 Maybe I'm missing something, Bud, but I send the letter Q the same way with 
 Iambic B keying. Hold the dah paddle for the duration of the letter and tap 
 the dit at the appropriate place. No need to let up on the dah paddle. Is 
 there some other characteristic that distinguishes Ulimatic from Iambic B? 
 I've never used Ultimatic keying but hear a lot of folks rave about it. I do 
 just fine with Iambic B but mess up big time with Iambic A. To each his own.

 73 - Will, AI4VE

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[Elecraft] Swap towards a KX3 I have a P3 Panadapter

2012-08-10 Thread David Perrin
Hi-
I am interested in swapping my near new Elecraft P3 panadapter towards a KX3.  
A bare bones KX3 would be fine. I have used the P3 with both the K3 and the 
Orion II, it works as it should. non smoking environment.
Reply off list: dbper...@gmail.com

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[Elecraft] Mic Gain Help Needed

2012-08-10 Thread goldtr8


MIC SEL  command question

According to the manual I should be able to turn on and off the 
additional gain setting by tapping the 3 key.  It no longer appears to 
work as I get N/A on the display.

Is this no longer working with the production release of software?

I need to try and lower the gain and I think its on the high position 
for the additional gain stage.

Manual info below.

Mic/line transmit audio source, mic gain range, and mic bias. Source 
selections:
FP (front panel 8-pin MIC jack), RP (rear panel 3.5 mm MIC jack), and 
LINE IN
(rear-panel LINE IN jack). Tap 1 to toggle between .Low and .High mic 
gain range
for the selected mic. Tap 2 to turn mic BIAS on/off (turn on for 
electret mics).
For the front-panel mic only, tap 3 to turn on an additional gain stage. 
Use this only
with very low-output mics. An apostrophe will appear after the H, e.g. 
H’ .

~73
Don
KD8NNU
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Re: [Elecraft] Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

2012-08-10 Thread W2RU - Bud Hippisley
Hi, Will --

Q was probably not the best choice I could have used to distinguish between 
the two modes.

My biggest problem with Iambic and a dual-lever paddle is the number 2, which 
I do have to send occasionally:-)  It typically comes out as  
dit-dit-dah-dit-dah.

For me, at least, I think the crux of the difference between the two algorithms 
is that I can be sloppier about when I get my thumb or fingers off the first 
lever squeezed on a large number of characters, such as the A, W, J, 1 and N, 
D, B, 6 families.   This timing becomes increasingly critical as sending speed 
increases.  For instance, I can send a 2 quite consistently using dual-lever 
Iambic at slow speeds.

I freely admit that my difficulties with Iambic may be influenced by the 
characteristics of keyers I first used, prior to introduction of the Iambic 
algorithm.  In other words, if your first electronic keyer was Iambic, you may 
not have as much trouble as I with it.   An aside:  One of those early keyers I 
loved, the POO-keyer from K2POO, was a (vacuum tube!) dash priority or dash 
override design -- not so much by deliberate design, perhaps, as by the 
reaction of the analog circuit to having dot and dash contacts simultaneously 
closed.

Ultimately (get that?), I think the answer is this:  If you're perfectly happy 
with the Iambic algorithm in conjunction with a dual-lever paddle, and it's 
making good characters for you, or if you use only a single-lever paddle, stick 
with the Iambic.  If it's giving you fits, however, an Ultimatic keyer might 
be just the ticket for you.

Bud, W2RU


On Aug 10, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Mercury merc...@pooshee.net wrote:

 Maybe I'm missing something, Bud, but I send the letter Q the same way with 
 Iambic B keying. Hold the dah paddle for the duration of the letter and tap 
 the dit at the appropriate place. No need to let up on the dah paddle. Is 
 there some other characteristic that distinguishes Ulimatic from Iambic B? 
 I've never used Ultimatic keying but hear a lot of folks rave about it. I do 
 just fine with Iambic B but mess up big time with Iambic A. To each his own.
 
 73 - Will, AI4VE
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] {K3 KX3} Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

2012-08-10 Thread Brian Alsop
Guys,

I'd like to point out that the transition being made when electronic 
keyers started coming on line was:

BUG ---KEYER

What was being solved is not having to make all those dashes manually. 
That in itself was a huge help.  Transmitting speeds could be increased 
20% or more.  Many guys at that time could copy way faster than they 
could send.

For most of us, the first electronic keyer paddles were bugs with the 
dit arm constrained (rubber band).  Yeah you could HB something.  You 
supplied all the timing between dots and dashes.

Modes like Iambic et al came about when somebody thought a bit out of 
the box:  Would two levers make things easier? (for others maybe, not 
for me)  I'm not sure whether iambic or dual levers keys came first. 
  Obviously one couldn't work without the other.

Don't forget the Cootie key!

73 Brian/K3KO



On 8/10/2012 22:52, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Will,

 The distinguishing characteristic is that it does not alternate between
 dits and dahs.
 You are correct, that a dingle dot insertion can work the same way in
 either case, and by the same reasoning, a single dash insertion. but if
 you send a character like Z, you close the DAH paddle and get the
 first DAH off, then after the 2nd DAH starts, close the DIT paddle (you
 do not have to take your finger off the DAH paddle) and it will begin
 sending a string of DITS - get both fingers off the paddle after the 2nd
 dit has started.

 Or take the letter B - DAH first, then close the DIT paddle - it does
 not mater much whether you take your finger off the DAH paddle or not,
 it will send 3 dits as long as you do not lift the finger from the dit
 paddle.  The last paddle closed takes priority.

 There are many other examples where Ultimatic is easier - but the timing
 is not as critical as it is for the Iambic alternating dots and dashes
 system.

 I think Iambic was a mistake created by the Curtis chip manufactures and
 salesmen (OK, I am ignoring the Accukeyer, I admit that) - but the
 original Ultimatic mode was easier to my mind, and it is more like bug
 keying that any other keyer mode - except the bug will not do a string
 of DAHs, only dits.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 8/10/2012 6:13 PM, Mercury wrote:
 Maybe I'm missing something, Bud, but I send the letter Q the same way with 
 Iambic B keying. Hold the dah paddle for the duration of the letter and tap 
 the dit at the appropriate place. No need to let up on the dah paddle. Is 
 there some other characteristic that distinguishes Ulimatic from Iambic B? 
 I've never used Ultimatic keying but hear a lot of folks rave about it. I do 
 just fine with Iambic B but mess up big time with Iambic A. To each his own.

 73 - Will, AI4VE

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[Elecraft] KX3 BETA firmware release (rev 1.12)

2012-08-10 Thread Wayne Burdick
KX3 beta firmware rev 1.12 (with DSP rev 0.94) is now available. See  
release notes below.

You'll need the KX3 Utility application to download and install  
firmware. For full instructions, refer to our KX3 software page:

http://www.elecraft.com/KX3/KX3_software.htm

73,
Wayne
N6KR

* * *

MCU 1.12, 7-25-2012

* MIN SUPPLY VOLTAGE NOW 7.5 V (was 8.0): Increases operating time  
when using an 8-cell NiMH battery pack. Recommended max power output  
is 3 W when operating from less than 9 volts, although 5 watts is  
possible in most cases.

* KEY OUT (ACC2) FOLLOWS CW DELAY SETTING: Prevents excessive  
switching of external equipment being keyed by the KX3’s KEY OUT line.  
Set desired delay using DLY switch.

* VOX AUTO-OFF OPTION AT POWER-UP: Tap '4' in CW WGHT menu entry to  
select VOX NOR or VOX AUTO OFF. With AUTO OFF selected, VOX for CW,  
voice, and audio-based data modes will all be disabled on power-up.

* IMPROVED HANDLING OF UNINTENTIONAL KEYING ON POWER-UP: Includes two  
new error messages: ERR VOX (voice or audio-data mode VOX was  
activated) and ERR ACP (PTT was activated via the ACC2 jack with the  
given setting of the ACC2 IO menu entry). In the ERR VOX case, VOX is  
turned off. In the ERR ACP case, ACC2 IO is set to OFF.

* UP/DN MIC FUNCTIONS DISABLED IN AF DATA MODES: In this case the user  
will have a PC audio cable, not an MH3, plugged in at the mic jack.  
Eliminates the need to change the MIC BTN menu setting when switching  
from voice to audio data modes.


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Sherwood RX Test Numbers Posted

2012-08-10 Thread Doug Person
Congratulations Wayne, Eric and the E team.  You guys are just 
amazing. What an incredible product.

73, Doug -- K0DXV

On 8/10/2012 12:09 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
 See:
 http://www.sherweng.com/table.html

 :-)

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[Elecraft] KX1 Displayed voltage question

2012-08-10 Thread Phil Townsend
I have applied 13.66 volts from my HP lab power supply... also I measured it 
with the Fluke 179 and a Fluke 2840. Both Flukes are more or less in agreement.
The KX1 battery display says it is 13.3vdc when it is powered up.

A... is there a way to adjust the display voltage on the KX1 so that it 
more closely matches the Flukes etc?  OR

B...is the .3 vdc difference  about the correct voltage drop for the KX1 
and then the KX1 is more or less correct and no adjustment not needed?

Thank You

Phil
Santa Fe
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[Elecraft] NR of my dreams

2012-08-10 Thread Tony Estep
When the new firmware 4.51 came out there were some postings commenting on
the improvement in the NR. However, I didn't really pay attention. The
previous versions of NR had proven to be of little use with the particular
kind of noises that plague my QTH, so I hadn't even turned on NR for
months.  I am almost entirely a CW op and have had no occasion to try the
NR on SSB until tonight. The D64 station has been on CW, easy enough to
work, but tonight he is on 17 meter phone. I tuned to his frequency and I
could tell that he was talking, but he was buried in atmospheric noises. NB
did little good, and I was about to give up and go watch the Olympics when
I thought to try NR. Magic! Using the same settings I had left over from
the previous firmware version (5--1) the noise just disappeared, and the
op's voice came loud and clear in my phones. Big improvement. This promises
to be a boon to my operations. Thanks very very much to all who worked on
this!

Tony KT0NY

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Yellow or orange display ?

2012-08-10 Thread Fred Jensen
On 8/8/2012 1:58 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 It does not change color.  The color is Amber.  What does change is the
 brightness.
 I think that is why the videos you see appear to have different colors.

For those of us without color vision [there must be at least two of us 
on this list:-)] a black character on white background looks really 
good. :-)  I doubt this would be a firmware option however as Alan's 
monochrome waterfall for the P3 was.  But, I don't have any problem 
reading my K3 display.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Pets in the Shack

2012-08-10 Thread Fred Jensen
Sometimes, it seems like my dummy load is my best antenna.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
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On 8/9/2012 4:31 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

 Actually, the best prevention is to arrange your station antenna
 switching to connect a dummy load - then when you leave the operating
 position, just switch the antenna to the dummy load position and be
 done with it - no worries.


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[Elecraft] KX3 Sherwood RX Test Numbers Posted

2012-08-10 Thread George O'Brien
I think this effectively answers the question on whether the KX3's performance 
is adequate as a Base Rig.  This also confirms
what my ears heard during Field Day on my #151.  Great engineering, Elecraft!
de AB4FH, George
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Pets in the Shack

2012-08-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
Fred,

I was very glad that all my ham equipment had dummy loads connected 2 
nights ago - we had a thunderstorm, and a very close lightning event.  
Many circuit breakers tripped, 4 computers died, and I had to replace 
the network router and all switches as well as the NAS storage device I 
use as a file server.  No data was lost, but I am in limp-along 
condition until I can get the file server up and running.

The strike apparently was mostly confined to the Ethernet connection, 
although it took out a printer locally attached to my computer too.

The network is back up and running and I am waiting for a couple of 
replacement computers for critical places in the network - the other two 
(media center and ham shack) will wait for a bit because I do not view 
them as critical.

The bottom line is that it did not hurt any of the ham gear.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/10/2012 8:19 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
 Sometimes, it seems like my dummy load is my best antenna.

 73,

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[Elecraft] K3 and EasyPal

2012-08-10 Thread david Moes
I have a question for any EasyPal users out there

I am using my K3 to send digital images with EasyPal  with great success 
but Id like to simplify my world

since many EasyPal  users talk about the images being sent between 
pictures I
find that I have to manually change between DIGI-A and SSB manually before
and after sending. sure I could send with the rig in SSB but this would 
not be
good as it would include any EQ and signal processing I have set up for 
the mic.
Id like to change modes automatically when I transmit images

to do this could I use EasyPal CAT PTTIs there anyone that has done 
this
successfully using.  The CAT setup menu in EasyPal has Initial string 
and exit string.
are these sent at the start of each transmission? or at the initial 
launch of
easypal?  I was thinking of using this to send a mode change command at
the start and end of each picture.   Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Dave
VE3DVY

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Re: [Elecraft] Sherwood ranking

2012-08-10 Thread John K9UWA
I would love to see Rob do the K3 radio AGAIN with the latest goodies in it. 
Notice that it shows as tested in 2008. I would suspect some things are 
better than the 2008 setup.

John k9uwa


 Rob sorts the table based on IMDDR3 at a 2-kHz spacing. This is the  
 second-to-last column of the table.
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
John Goller, K9UWA  Jean Goller, N9PXF 
Antique Radio Restorations
k9...@arrl.net
Visit our Web Site at:
http://www.JohnJeanAntiqueRadio.com
4836 Ranch Road
Leo, IN 46765
USA
1-260-637-6426

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Re: [Elecraft] KDSP2 Audio Filters

2012-08-10 Thread Chuck Teague
Fred, 
I would use spectrogram to set the audio filters--it helps me to get a
visual of what the pass band will look like, and it's just easier to keep
track of what you're doing.  Use the DSP menu settings for the audio filter
setup--your xfilters are already set.

Chuck
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Re: [Elecraft] Mic Gain Help Needed

2012-08-10 Thread Howard Stephenson
Don,
It's a typo in the manual.
Tap 7 to turn on the additional gain stage for the front-panel mic.

-- 
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73's  Howard Stephenson  K6IA
Customer Support
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 MIC SEL  command question

 According to the manual I should be able to turn on and off the
 additional gain setting by tapping the 3 key.  It no longer appears to
 work as I get N/A on the display.

 Is this no longer working with the production release of software?

 I need to try and lower the gain and I think its on the high position
 for the additional gain stage.

 Manual info below.

 Mic/line transmit audio source, mic gain range, and mic bias. Source
 selections:
 FP (front panel 8-pin MIC jack), RP (rear panel 3.5 mm MIC jack), and
 LINE IN
 (rear-panel LINE IN jack). Tap 1 to toggle between .Low and .High mic
 gain range
 for the selected mic. Tap 2 to turn mic BIAS on/off (turn on for
 electret mics).
 For the front-panel mic only, tap 3 to turn on an additional gain stage.
 Use this only
 with very low-output mics. An apostrophe will appear after the H, e.g.
 H’ .

 ~73
 Don
 KD8NNU

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Re: [Elecraft] Sherwood ranking

2012-08-10 Thread Phil Hystad
But, when you look at those top three entries you have to ask the question Are 
these measurements effectively the same?  I mean, is there any true 
discernible difference between those top radios.


On Aug 10, 2012, at 6:14 PM, John K9UWA j...@johnjeanantiqueradio.com wrote:

 I would love to see Rob do the K3 radio AGAIN with the latest goodies in it. 
 Notice that it shows as tested in 2008. I would suspect some things are 
 better than the 2008 setup.
 
 John k9uwa
 
 
 Rob sorts the table based on IMDDR3 at a 2-kHz spacing. This is the  
 second-to-last column of the table.
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 John Goller, K9UWA  Jean Goller, N9PXF 
 Antique Radio Restorations
 k9...@arrl.net
 Visit our Web Site at:
 http://www.JohnJeanAntiqueRadio.com
 4836 Ranch Road
 Leo, IN 46765
 USA
 1-260-637-6426
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Mic Gain Help Needed

2012-08-10 Thread goldtr8
Thanks that was it

~73
Don
KD8NNU


On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Howard Stephenson wrote:

 Don,
 It's a typo in the manual.
 Tap 7 to turn on the additional gain stage for the front-panel mic.

 -- 
 --
 73's  Howard Stephenson  K6IA
 Customer Support
 --


 MIC SEL  command question

 According to the manual I should be able to turn on and off the
 additional gain setting by tapping the 3 key.  It no longer appears 
 to
 work as I get N/A on the display.

 Is this no longer working with the production release of software?

 I need to try and lower the gain and I think its on the high position
 for the additional gain stage.

 Manual info below.

 Mic/line transmit audio source, mic gain range, and mic bias. Source
 selections:
 FP (front panel 8-pin MIC jack), RP (rear panel 3.5 mm MIC jack), and
 LINE IN
 (rear-panel LINE IN jack). Tap 1 to toggle between .Low and .High mic
 gain range
 for the selected mic. Tap 2 to turn mic BIAS on/off (turn on for
 electret mics).
 For the front-panel mic only, tap 3 to turn on an additional gain 
 stage.
 Use this only
 with very low-output mics. An apostrophe will appear after the H, 
 e.g.
 H’ .

 ~73
 Don
 KD8NNU

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[Elecraft] VFO A = VFO B

2012-08-10 Thread Scott Dunlavey
I found the problem... I had BSET on... I must have gone into 
Config... and set VFO IND to NO...  it needed to be set to YES...



THANKS
Scott
w2ntv
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Displayed voltage question

2012-08-10 Thread Mike Morrow
Phil wrote:

 I have applied 13.66 volts from my HP lab power supply...
 also I measured it with the Fluke 179 and a Fluke 2840. Both
 Flukes are more or less in agreement.
 The KX1 battery display says it is 13.3vdc when it is powered up.

The difference between the external supply DC voltage and that 
indicated by the MPU-controlled LED is due to the voltage drop
across the reverse polarity and external/internal DC power
auctioneering diode D2.

What the LED shows is, in fact, the voltage at which the KX1
internal electronics are operating.  It's all perfectly correct.

Congratulations on your new license.

73,
Mike / KK5F

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Re: [Elecraft] Sherwood ranking

2012-08-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2012 10 Aug 21:24 -0500, Phil Hystad wrote:
 But, when you look at those top three entries you have to ask the
 question Are these measurements effectively the same?  I mean, is
 there any true discernible difference between those top radios.

While Rob sorts his table by 'Dynamic Range Narrow Spaced (dB)' I look
at 'Filter Ultimate (dB)' as I detest filter blowby.  Filter blowby
renders all the other numbers moot, IMO.  I tend to think that for SSB
operations 'Dynamic Range Wide Spaced (dB)' is important, if I
understand it correctly, and '100kHz Blocking (dB)' seems to be a
measure of how well the receiver handles the band with a lot of strong
signals.

Taken as a whole of all the numbers in the table, it seems Elecraft has
the top two spots well in hand.  The difference being what you intend to
use your radio for.

73, de Nate, N0NB 

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Re: [Elecraft] Sherwood ranking

2012-08-10 Thread Wayne Burdick
Phil Hystad wrote:

 But, when you look at those top three entries you have to ask the  
 question Are these measurements effectively the same?  I mean, is  
 there any true discernible difference between those top radios?

The short answer: In most operating situations they would all perform  
equally well.

The long answer: They're vastly different radios. The '5000 is  
definitely a nice rig, if a bit on the Statuesque end of the spectrum  
at 50+ pounds. Both the K3 and KX3 have much better blocking dynamic  
range than the '5000, yet are virtually equal to it in 2 kHz IMDDR3.  
Between the K3 and KX3, the K3 would be the better choice for serious  
contest work given its superhet architecture and narrow crystal  
filters. The K3 also has the highest-performance panadapter option of  
any radio.

The KX3 would be the better choice for hand-held operation, and it  
will run much longer from a 9-volt lithium ultralife battery.

73,
Wayne
N6KR




 On Aug 10, 2012, at 6:14 PM, John K9UWA  
 j...@johnjeanantiqueradio.com wrote:

 I would love to see Rob do the K3 radio AGAIN with the latest  
 goodies in it.
 Notice that it shows as tested in 2008. I would suspect some things  
 are
 better than the 2008 setup.

 John k9uwa


 Rob sorts the table based on IMDDR3 at a 2-kHz spacing. This is the
 second-to-last column of the table.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 John Goller, K9UWA  Jean Goller, N9PXF
 Antique Radio Restorations
 k9...@arrl.net
 Visit our Web Site at:
 http://www.JohnJeanAntiqueRadio.com
 4836 Ranch Road
 Leo, IN 46765
 USA
 1-260-637-6426

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] {K3 KX3} Software CW in K3 and KX3 and contesting

2012-08-10 Thread Mercury
Thanks for the explanations, Don and Bud. I think I understand how an Ultimatic 
keyer works now and can see how it would be less timing critical for many 
characters and most numbers. Except for the obvious iambic characters like 
'c', 'k', 'r', and the period, it would require less practice to send most 
code. I'd like to try it sometime. Wonder why it isn't more widely used?

73 - Will, AI4VE

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Re: [Elecraft] Sherwood ranking

2012-08-10 Thread Phil Hystad
Wayne,

Thanks for the summary.  Actually, the column that makes the most sense and the 
one that should rank first in ordering is the name of the company providing the 
rig and Elecraft comes first in that ordering because of course it starts with 
the letter E which is the most frequently occurring letter in general English 
prose.

73, phil, K7PEH

On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

 Phil Hystad wrote:
 
 But, when you look at those top three entries you have to ask the question 
 Are these measurements effectively the same?  I mean, is there any true 
 discernible difference between those top radios?
 
 The short answer: In most operating situations they would all perform equally 
 well.
 
 The long answer: They're vastly different radios. The '5000 is definitely a 
 nice rig, if a bit on the Statuesque end of the spectrum at 50+ pounds. Both 
 the K3 and KX3 have much better blocking dynamic range than the '5000, yet 
 are virtually equal to it in 2 kHz IMDDR3. Between the K3 and KX3, the K3 
 would be the better choice for serious contest work given its superhet 
 architecture and narrow crystal filters. The K3 also has the 
 highest-performance panadapter option of any radio.
 
 The KX3 would be the better choice for hand-held operation, and it will run 
 much longer from a 9-volt lithium ultralife battery.
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 
 
 
 On Aug 10, 2012, at 6:14 PM, John K9UWA j...@johnjeanantiqueradio.com 
 wrote:
 
 I would love to see Rob do the K3 radio AGAIN with the latest goodies in it.
 Notice that it shows as tested in 2008. I would suspect some things are
 better than the 2008 setup.
 
 John k9uwa
 
 
 Rob sorts the table based on IMDDR3 at a 2-kHz spacing. This is the
 second-to-last column of the table.
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 John Goller, K9UWA  Jean Goller, N9PXF
 Antique Radio Restorations
 k9...@arrl.net
 Visit our Web Site at:
 http://www.JohnJeanAntiqueRadio.com
 4836 Ranch Road
 Leo, IN 46765
 USA
 1-260-637-6426
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Sherwood ranking

2012-08-10 Thread Wayne Burdick
On behalf of the entire staff, I'll take this as a meta-compliment :)

Wayne

On Aug 10, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:

 Wayne,

 Thanks for the summary.  Actually, the column that makes the most  
 sense and the one that should rank first in ordering is the name of  
 the company providing the rig and Elecraft comes first in that  
 ordering because of course it starts with the letter E which is the  
 most frequently occurring letter in general English prose.

 73, phil, K7PEH
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Sherwood RX Test Numbers Posted

2012-08-10 Thread k3ndm
Eric, 
I was under the impression the the KX3 would not perform as well as the K2, but 
would be a better trail radio with some gee whiz features. Looks like you guys 
over-achieved. Good show!! 

73, 
Barry 
K3NDM 

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From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft e...@elecraft.com 
To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 2:09:17 PM 
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Sherwood RX Test Numbers Posted 

See: 
http://www.sherweng.com/table.html 

:-) 

73, 

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