Re: [Elecraft] P3 burn-in concerns?

2013-03-11 Thread Alan Bloom
The data sheet for the display we're using specifies an LED lifetime of 
10,000 hours minimum.  I expect that's probably a conservative spec. 
I've had mine on for thousands of hours so far with no noticeable change.


Alan N1AL


On 3/11/2013 10:42 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

I'm not certain, but I believe the backlight on the P3 is an LED panel.
Whatever it is it's in integral part of a sandwich about 0.2 inches thick
comprising the whole display.

73 Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Vic K2VCO
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 9:40 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 burn-in concerns?

Many times when the "backlight burns out" on a computer monitor it is not
the backlight at all, but rather the switching supply for the backlight
that's failed. I've fixed a couple of these.

On 3/11/2013 7:12 PM, david Moes wrote:

That would depend if the backlight is LED or cold cathode. I service

equipment with

LCD displays with both types of backlights and burnout is very very rare.

on small

screens like the P3 the light is not being pushed hard and should last a

long long time.


As for burn in.   One of our machines with a 14 inch LCD display does in

fact burn

in.It takes a many months  of displaying the same image 24/7.  The

customer never

sees the burn as that part of the screen never changes.  but with the

different screens

I use in diagnostics I can see it. If I leave it on a full white

screen over night

it disapears and doesnt seem to come back for another several months so

the burn in

seems to not be permanent.  on the P3 I doubt this will ever be an

issue.


David Moes

dm...@nexicom.net
VE3DVY

On 3/11/2013 6:39 PM, Ralph Parker wrote:

No. The only possible issue is backlight failure, just like your
computer or TV screen.

Tnx, Ron, just what I was hoping to hear.
I usually turn the radio on in the morning, and off in the evening,
longer periods only in a contest.

Should I be concerned about the backlight? I've only had two burn
out, one in a laptop (NEC) and one on a desktop monitor (Dell).
I would suppose that the entire display module would have to be replaced.

Ralph, VE7XF



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 burn-in concerns?

2013-03-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I'm not certain, but I believe the backlight on the P3 is an LED panel.
Whatever it is it's in integral part of a sandwich about 0.2 inches thick
comprising the whole display. 

73 Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Vic K2VCO
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 9:40 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 burn-in concerns?

Many times when the "backlight burns out" on a computer monitor it is not
the backlight at all, but rather the switching supply for the backlight
that's failed. I've fixed a couple of these.

On 3/11/2013 7:12 PM, david Moes wrote:
> That would depend if the backlight is LED or cold cathode. I service
equipment with 
> LCD displays with both types of backlights and burnout is very very rare.
on small 
> screens like the P3 the light is not being pushed hard and should last a
long long time.
>
> As for burn in.   One of our machines with a 14 inch LCD display does in
fact burn 
> in.It takes a many months  of displaying the same image 24/7.  The
customer never 
> sees the burn as that part of the screen never changes.  but with the
different screens 
> I use in diagnostics I can see it. If I leave it on a full white
screen over night 
> it disapears and doesnt seem to come back for another several months so
the burn in 
> seems to not be permanent.  on the P3 I doubt this will ever be an
issue.
>
> David Moes
>
> dm...@nexicom.net
> VE3DVY
>
> On 3/11/2013 6:39 PM, Ralph Parker wrote:
>>> No. The only possible issue is backlight failure, just like your 
>>> computer or TV screen.
>> Tnx, Ron, just what I was hoping to hear.
>> I usually turn the radio on in the morning, and off in the evening, 
>> longer periods only in a contest.
>>
>> Should I be concerned about the backlight? I've only had two burn 
>> out, one in a laptop (NEC) and one on a desktop monitor (Dell).
>> I would suppose that the entire display module would have to be replaced.
>>
>> Ralph, VE7XF
>>

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 burn-in concerns?

2013-03-11 Thread Vic K2VCO
Many times when the "backlight burns out" on a computer monitor it is not the backlight at 
all, but rather the switching supply for the backlight that's failed. I've fixed a couple 
of these.


On 3/11/2013 7:12 PM, david Moes wrote:
That would depend if the backlight is LED or cold cathode. I service equipment with 
LCD displays with both types of backlights and burnout is very very rare.   on small 
screens like the P3 the light is not being pushed hard and should last a long long time.


As for burn in.   One of our machines with a 14 inch LCD display does in fact burn 
in.It takes a many months  of displaying the same image 24/7.  The customer never 
sees the burn as that part of the screen never changes.  but with the different screens 
I use in diagnostics I can see it. If I leave it on a full white screen over night 
it disapears and doesnt seem to come back for another several months so the burn in 
seems to not be permanent.  on the P3 I doubt this will ever be an issue.


David Moes

dm...@nexicom.net
VE3DVY

On 3/11/2013 6:39 PM, Ralph Parker wrote:

No. The only possible issue is backlight failure, just like your computer or
TV screen.

Tnx, Ron, just what I was hoping to hear.
I usually turn the radio on in the morning, and off in the evening, longer
periods only in a contest.

Should I be concerned about the backlight? I've only had two burn out, one
in a laptop (NEC) and one on a desktop monitor (Dell).
I would suppose that the entire display module would have to be replaced.

Ralph, VE7XF



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA board question?

2013-03-11 Thread Gary
Choice #2 Sam. Only one version of the SVGA board has been released. This
option is still fairly new, released just last year. Only firmware updates
have been offered for it since then.
Gary N6RLV

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Subject: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA board question?

I may have a chance to buy a P3 SVGA Board. It was bought shortly after they
were released, but never installed. I don't know if it has a serial number
or exactly when it was bought.

My question is.
Has there been only one version of the board sold?
In other words, are there early boards that would need any parts upgrades,
or are all P3 SVGA boards alike and only the firmware has been updated?

TIA
-- 

GB & 73
K5OAI
Sam Morgan
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver Mute

2013-03-11 Thread Don Wilhelm

Grant,

There may be other suggestions, but I believe your proposed setup is 
most effective and adheres to the *KISS* principle.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/11/2013 9:45 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:

Is there a straightforward way to mute the receiver in the K3 from an external 
"mute" line?

I want to use the K3 receivers with some vintage transmitters, and am looking 
for the best way to accomplish RX muting.  Not that an R-390 with a Sherwood 
sync detector isn't a  good receiver, but summer is coming, and there's enough 
heat in the shack from other sources  ;)

All I've managed to conjure up is to put the K3 in TEST and then assert PTT 
from aux contacts on an external antenna relay.  Am I missing something obvious?

Grant/NQ5T
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB net results (3/10/13)

2013-03-11 Thread Phil Shepard
Oops!

Nice net yesterday …


On Mar 11, 2013, at 8:24 PM, Phil Shepard  wrote:

> 
> We had a nice net today, with 32 participants over a 23 minute period.  
> Mostly discussed weather.  See you next week.
> 
> Participants  from the 3/10/13 net follow:
> 
> Station   NameQTH Rig S/N
> 
> N6JW  JohnCA  K3  936
> AG6IS Scott   CA  K3  4117
> NA6Z  Don CA  K3  5495
> KD0HIIBrian   IA  K3  3672
> WC7S  DaleWY  K2  6611
> NT5Q  Don TX  K3  4179
> K5RHD Randy   NM  K3  7170
> W5TTF Charlie TX  K3  4016
> NZ0T  BillMO  IC7200  (K3 1502)
> K4QE  TonyNC  K3  6478
> WB9JNZEricIL  K3  4017
> KM4IK Ian GA  K3  281
> W2RWA DickNY  K3  2603
> K4GCJ Gerry   NC  K3  1597
> WD5M  David   TX  K3  6493
> KC5RY George  TX  K3  5208
> W8OV  DaveTX  K3  3139
> N8OQ  Jim VA  K3  6534
> W4FI  Charlie FL  K3  6779
> K5EJK Ernie   TX  K3  6733
> W7QHD KurtAZ  K2  1538
> AE6JV BillCA  K3  6299
> KE5SZATom OK  KX3 726
> KG0NL/m5  PhilNM  K2  4551
> W4RKS Jim AL  K3  3618
> N1OXA IvanME  K3  4538
> K7BRR BillAZ  K3  5545
> WV5I  Dwayne  TX  K3  5287
> W5KSU MikeOK  K2  3669
> WN8A  Jim MI  K3  3480
> K6VWE/m8  StanMI  IC7000
> NS7P  PhilOR  K3  1826
> 
> 73,
> 
> Phil, NS7P
> 
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB net results (3/10/13)

2013-03-11 Thread Phil Shepard

We had a nice net today, with 32 participants over a 23 minute period.  Mostly 
discussed weather.  See you next week.

Participants  from the 3/10/13 net follow:

Station NameQTH Rig S/N

N6JWJohnCA  K3  936
AG6IS   Scott   CA  K3  4117
NA6ZDon CA  K3  5495
KD0HII  Brian   IA  K3  3672
WC7SDaleWY  K2  6611
NT5QDon TX  K3  4179
K5RHD   Randy   NM  K3  7170
W5TTF   Charlie TX  K3  4016
NZ0TBillMO  IC7200  (K3 1502)
K4QETonyNC  K3  6478
WB9JNZ  EricIL  K3  4017
KM4IK   Ian GA  K3  281
W2RWA   DickNY  K3  2603
K4GCJ   Gerry   NC  K3  1597
WD5MDavid   TX  K3  6493
KC5RY   George  TX  K3  5208
W8OVDaveTX  K3  3139
N8OQJim VA  K3  6534
W4FICharlie FL  K3  6779
K5EJK   Ernie   TX  K3  6733
W7QHD   KurtAZ  K2  1538
AE6JV   BillCA  K3  6299
KE5SZA  Tom OK  KX3 726
KG0NL/m5PhilNM  K2  4551
W4RKS   Jim AL  K3  3618
N1OXA   IvanME  K3  4538
K7BRR   BillAZ  K3  5545
WV5IDwayne  TX  K3  5287
W5KSU   MikeOK  K2  3669
WN8AJim MI  K3  3480
K6VWE/m8StanMI  IC7000
NS7PPhilOR  K3  1826

73,

Phil, NS7P


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 burn-in concerns?

2013-03-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
As David noted, burnout is very rare. Should it happen, you can replace the
LCD yourself with only a screwdriver. Complete replacement instructions are
in the P3 assembly manual which you can download from the Elecraft web site
if you didn't build yours from a kit. The LCD are, of course, available
direct from Elecraft. 

73 Ron AC7AC

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Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 3:40 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 burn-in concerns?

>No. The only possible issue is backlight failure, just like your 
>computer or TV screen.

Tnx, Ron, just what I was hoping to hear.
I usually turn the radio on in the morning, and off in the evening, longer
periods only in a contest.

Should I be concerned about the backlight? I've only had two burn out, one
in a laptop (NEC) and one on a desktop monitor (Dell).
I would suppose that the entire display module would have to be replaced.

Ralph, VE7XF


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build ­ Parts Separation and Day 1 Build

2013-03-11 Thread Nick N1IC
I think that's a good strategy   

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 11, 2013, at 10:02 PM, Bill Coleman  wrote:

> 
> On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Nick Palomba  wrote:
> 
>> Elecraft K3 Build – Parts separation and Day 1 Build
>> 
>> So I will say upfront this is not the most exciting part of the build – I
>> will say that I was not feeling 100% while working on this section so I
>> didn’t get as far as I wanted and I also found that it’s pretty stressful
>> trying to build, read, get things right and be on video ☺
> 
> I'm going to come clean and say that when I built my K3 back in late 
> December, I skipped the inventory. I did scan through the stack and identify 
> all the major components -- but I didn't open any of the bags until I needed 
> them. 
> 
> This worked out very well, and I even had a few extra parts left over after 
> assembly.
> 
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> Web: http://boringhamradiopart.blogspot.com
> Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
>   -- Wilbur Wright, 1901
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 burn-in concerns?

2013-03-11 Thread david Moes
That would depend if the backlight is LED or cold cathode. I service 
equipment with LCD displays with both types of backlights and burnout is 
very very rare.   on small screens like the P3 the light is not being 
pushed hard and should last a long long time.


As for burn in.   One of our machines with a 14 inch LCD display does in 
fact burn in.It takes a many months  of displaying the same image 
24/7.  The customer never sees the burn as that part of the screen never 
changes.  but with the different screens I use in diagnostics I can see 
it. If I leave it on a full white screen over night it disapears and 
doesnt seem to come back for another several months so the burn in seems 
to not be permanent.  on the P3 I doubt this will ever be an issue.


David Moes

dm...@nexicom.net
VE3DVY

On 3/11/2013 6:39 PM, Ralph Parker wrote:

No. The only possible issue is backlight failure, just like your computer or
TV screen.

Tnx, Ron, just what I was hoping to hear.
I usually turn the radio on in the morning, and off in the evening, longer
periods only in a contest.

Should I be concerned about the backlight? I've only had two burn out, one
in a laptop (NEC) and one on a desktop monitor (Dell).
I would suppose that the entire display module would have to be replaced.

Ralph, VE7XF


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Auto Notch distortion

2013-03-11 Thread Bill Coleman

On Jan 26, 2012, at 9:59 AM, gold...@charter.net wrote:

> I also find in SSB that this is the case, but it is also the case on my 
> other mfg radios that I use mobile.
> 
> So maybe its the nature of the math that is used to remove it from the 
> signal.

I have the K2/100 with the KDSP2. In SSB, I leave the auto-notch on all the 
time. I've never noticed any distortion.

However, on the K3/100, the auto-notch appears to produce a barely noticeable 
distortion.

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build ­ Parts Separation and Day 1 Build

2013-03-11 Thread Bill Coleman

On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Nick Palomba  wrote:

> Elecraft K3 Build – Parts separation and Day 1 Build
> 
> So I will say upfront this is not the most exciting part of the build – I
> will say that I was not feeling 100% while working on this section so I
> didn’t get as far as I wanted and I also found that it’s pretty stressful
> trying to build, read, get things right and be on video ☺

I'm going to come clean and say that when I built my K3 back in late December, 
I skipped the inventory. I did scan through the stack and identify all the 
major components -- but I didn't open any of the bags until I needed them. 

This worked out very well, and I even had a few extra parts left over after 
assembly.

Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: aa...@arrl.net
Web: http://boringhamradiopart.blogspot.com
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
   -- Wilbur Wright, 1901

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: beware of strange replies to your ads

2013-03-11 Thread david Moes
Yep  Had one of those years ago.  I had a wanted ad on Eham for a power 
supply for a KW2000b. individual claiming he was from England  replied 
that he had the item I was looking for with some sketchy details  he 
said the tubes had all been tested and were good.  What tubes?.   I 
strung him along for a while asking stupid questions about non existent 
wood trim and other nonexistent features.   Each indicated that the 
features I asked about were all fine. and of course each reply ended 
encouraging  me to wire money.
Finally I sent the whole lot to the fraud dept of the RCMP.   They 
replied thanking me stating that there was already an ongoing 
investigation in similar matters.  after some of my own investigation 
turned out he was in Nigeria.never heard more after that.


David Moes

dm...@nexicom.net
VE3DVY

On 3/11/2013 9:46 PM, Chris Wagner wrote:

Hello Seller,
In reference to your online placed ad on ( www.eham.net ) please
could you tell me whether the advert is still for sale? Also tell me
whether its condition remains as described in your ad? Can i trust
you,Please include the current price too. Write soon.also do get back to me
with the following details about you:

Your Final Price :  ( Compulsory )

Thanks,
Kenneth.

These con artists can't be bothered to recall what your ad was about. They
use a generic reply and send this to countless sellers.

These scammers respond to both, for sale and wanted ads. There was a guy
"in London" who wanted to sell his mint TT Omni VI+ for 150 pounds.
Or some folks who wanted a laptop sent to some conflict region in Africa.
Then there are all those *reverends*... Once someone sent me a hot check.

Try to look up the IP address. This guy is using some private network. *Next
*.

73, Chris KF6VCI
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver Mute

2013-03-11 Thread Mike WA8BXN
Assuming your antenna relay provides enough isolation to protect the K3
receiver front end, what about using an external speaker with the K3 and
accomplish muting by switching the audio out from the K3 to an 8 ohm
resistor instead of the speaker during transmit? You could then perhaps
monitor your transmitter on a P3 if you have one. 
 
73 - Mike WA8BXN 
 
 
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[Elecraft] OT: beware of strange replies to your ads

2013-03-11 Thread Chris Wagner
Hello Seller,
   In reference to your online placed ad on ( www.eham.net ) please
could you tell me whether the advert is still for sale? Also tell me
whether its condition remains as described in your ad? Can i trust
you,Please include the current price too. Write soon.also do get back to me
with the following details about you:

Your Final Price :  ( Compulsory )

Thanks,
Kenneth.

These con artists can't be bothered to recall what your ad was about. They
use a generic reply and send this to countless sellers.

These scammers respond to both, for sale and wanted ads. There was a guy
"in London" who wanted to sell his mint TT Omni VI+ for 150 pounds.
Or some folks who wanted a laptop sent to some conflict region in Africa.
Then there are all those *reverends*... Once someone sent me a hot check.

Try to look up the IP address. This guy is using some private network. *Next
*.

73, Chris KF6VCI
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[Elecraft] K3 Receiver Mute

2013-03-11 Thread Grant Youngman
Is there a straightforward way to mute the receiver in the K3 from an external 
"mute" line?  

I want to use the K3 receivers with some vintage transmitters, and am looking 
for the best way to accomplish RX muting.  Not that an R-390 with a Sherwood 
sync detector isn't a  good receiver, but summer is coming, and there's enough 
heat in the shack from other sources  ;)

All I've managed to conjure up is to put the K3 in TEST and then assert PTT 
from aux contacts on an external antenna relay.  Am I missing something obvious?

Grant/NQ5T
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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA board question?

2013-03-11 Thread Sam Morgan
I may have a chance to buy a P3 SVGA Board. It was bought shortly after they 
were released, but never installed. I don't know if it has a serial number or 
exactly when it was bought.


My question is.
Has there been only one version of the board sold?
In other words, are there early boards that would need any parts upgrades,
or are all P3 SVGA boards alike and only the firmware has been updated?

TIA
--

GB & 73
K5OAI
Sam Morgan
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[Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build ­ Parts Separation and Day 1 Build

2013-03-11 Thread Nick Palomba
Elecraft K3 Build – Parts separation and Day 1 Build

So I will say upfront this is not the most exciting part of the build – I
will say that I was not feeling 100% while working on this section so I
didn’t get as far as I wanted and I also found that it’s pretty stressful
trying to build, read, get things right and be on video ☺



http://nicktoday.com/elecraft-k3-build-parts-separation-and-day-1-build/




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Speaker Amp Protection

2013-03-11 Thread Bruce Beford
I also inquired about this mod on the list a couple months ago. No replies
or posting of the relevant info yet.
73,
Bruce N1RX

Last August, Wayne N6KR posted:

>The mod I was talking about is newer (2010, I believe). It involves a
 
>pair of very small-valued resistors in series with the AF output   
>coupling capacitors. This, too, is in production. 
>
>However, I just looked on the K3 mods page, and it appears that we   
>never did turn this into a mod kit. We'll get this corrected right
away. 

http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-speaker-audio-gone-td7561739.htm
l#a7561747

Because I prefer to open my K3 only in low-static months, it's time to
ask about the status of this mod, which hasn't yet appeared on the K3
mod webpage.  Will it be available within the next few months?

73, Paul W8TM




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Re: [Elecraft] P3 burn-in concerns?

2013-03-11 Thread Ralph Parker
>No. The only possible issue is backlight failure, just like your computer or
>TV screen. 

Tnx, Ron, just what I was hoping to hear.
I usually turn the radio on in the morning, and off in the evening, longer
periods only in a contest.

Should I be concerned about the backlight? I've only had two burn out, one
in a laptop (NEC) and one on a desktop monitor (Dell).
I would suppose that the entire display module would have to be replaced.

Ralph, VE7XF


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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Portable Antenna question

2013-03-11 Thread Anthony Marriott
I too use the MP-1 Super Antenna, but replaced the flimsy collapsible whip, 
which I lost one windy evening, with a 10ft Buddypole whip!   It's a bit longer 
but much more robust.  The MP1 needs to be tuned carefully, and collapsed a 
section to resonate on 10m with the Buddypole whip, but otherwise it's a real 
good backup when I don't have my 32ft push-up pole.

Paul
AF5BV

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 11, 2013, at 3:55 PM, ke6...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Lynn,
> 
> 
> 
> I just picked up a KX3 a few weeks back and of course had the same question. 
> I knew wire antennas would work well but wanted to try something different 
> and see what would work if I found myself out in the desert or jumping on the 
> air from the beach, so I went with the super antenna MP1 with the optional 
> tripod base. I set it up in my back yard (in less than 10 min) and added a 
> few more radials onto it than what it came with. Set the KX3 up on the patio 
> table and fired it up. First QSO was to Alaska from the SF bay area on CW 
> using 3 watts on internal batteries. I was excited considering I had very low 
> expectations of the antenna. But it worked. The main thing I like about it is 
> that it setup and break down is very easy, and the foot print is really 
> small. I have limited antenna options at home and am using a hustler 6btv 
> that’s concealed in painted PVC pipe hidden in the trees. My plans for this 
> weekend are to set the MP1 back up and do some a/b comps with the hustler. 
> 
> 
> 
> On a side note, I went to New Mexico the week after I got my KX3. The super 
> antenna breaks down really small and I had no problem sticking it in the 
> pelican case I put together for the setup. Took the whole package radio and 
> all as a carry-on onto the plane with out any problems. Got to New Mexico and 
> set it up and had a blast. Are there other ideas that will work better, 
> definitely, but for $100 for a small vertical it worked wonders. I figure if 
> I find myself in a hotel room it would also work wonders.
> 
> 
> 
> I also picked up one of those MFJ 20 meter loaded telescoping antennas that 
> plugs into the KX3 bnc connector. I added some radials to the KX3 case and 
> started working JT65 while sitting at my kitchen table. Called CQ and started 
> checking the PSKreporter website. Stations all along the east coast were 
> picking me up from the SF bay area. The only issue I had was RFI causing the 
> mousepad to freeze up. With JT65, that’s not a huge problem, but that would 
> be an issue with PSK31 or RTTY. With the MP1 I did not have any RFI issues. 
> 
> 
> 
> As someone else mentioned trying out all different kind of antennas is a lot 
> of fun, and I’m not going to lie, I’ve spent most my free time playing with 
> the KX3 and different antennas and have somewhat abandoned the shack hihi.
> 
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> 
> 
> Steve
> 
> KE6GDA
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Windows Mail
> 
> 
> From: Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
> Sent: ‎March‎ ‎8‎, ‎2013 ‎7‎:‎16‎ ‎PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Portable Antenna question
> 
> 
> My new KX3 is due to arrive on Monday -- with the KXAT3 tuner.
> 
> I saw some discussion of wire lengths that worked well with the tuner, 
> and of course, now I can't find it.
> 
> I plan on mostly portable operation -- no place where I live for a nice 
> antenna (and probably hard to get the OK from management).
> 
> Anyone have any practical experience to share?
> 
> 73 -- Lynn, WB6UUT
> 
> P.S. Hi Lyle
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Portable Antenna question

2013-03-11 Thread Mike WA8BXN
Hi Steve, 
 
Them MP-1 is a pretty neat antenna. You can set it up from the inside of a
tent when its raining (right outside the door). Its a compromise length wise
but well built. 
 
I would suggest NOT putting any antenna on the BNC connector of the KX-3
because of the strain on the BNC connector in the radio. (I would not use
any hard connector like an 90 degree BNC to connect an antenna either). Use
some coax between the rig and the antenna and find a suitable and cheap to
fix if needed way to support the antenna. 
73/72 - Mike WA8BXN 
 
 
 
 
---Original Message--- 
 
From: ke6...@gmail.com 
Date: 3/11/2013 4:55:17 PM 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Portable Antenna question 
 
Hi Lynn, 
 
 
 
I just picked up a KX3 a few weeks back and of course had the same question.
I knew wire antennas would work well but wanted to try something different
and see what would work if I found myself out in the desert or jumping on
the air from the beach, so I went with the super antenna MP1 with the
optional tripod base. I set it up in my back yard (in less than 10 min) and
added a few more radials onto it than what it came with. Set the KX3 up on
the patio table and fired it up. First QSO was to Alaska from the SF bay
area on CW using 3 watts on internal batteries. I was excited considering I
had very low expectations of the antenna. But it worked. The main thing I
like about it is that it setup and break down is very easy, and the foot
print is really small. I have limited antenna options at home and am using a
hustler 6btv that’s concealed in painted PVC pipe hidden in the trees. My
plans for this weekend are to set the MP1 back up and do some a/b comps with
the hustler. 
 
 
 
On a side note, I went to New Mexico the week after I got my KX3. The super
antenna breaks down really small and I had no problem sticking it in the
pelican case I put together for the setup. Took the whole package radio and
all as a carry-on onto the plane with out any problems. Got to New Mexico
and set it up and had a blast. Are there other ideas that will work better,
definitely, but for $100 for a small vertical it worked wonders. I figure if
I find myself in a hotel room it would also work wonders. 
 
 
 
I also picked up one of those MFJ 20 meter loaded telescoping antennas that
plugs into the KX3 bnc connector. I added some radials to the KX3 case and
started working JT65 while sitting at my kitchen table. Called CQ and
started checking the PSKreporter website. Stations all along the east coast
were picking me up from the SF bay area. The only issue I had was RFI
causing the mousepad to freeze up. With JT65, that’s not a huge problem, but
that would be an issue with PSK31 or RTTY. With the MP1 I did not have any
RFI issues. 
 
 
 
As someone else mentioned trying out all different kind of antennas is a lot
of fun, and I’m not going to lie, I’ve spent most my free time playing with
the KX3 and different antennas and have somewhat abandoned the shack hihi. 
 
 
 
73, 
 
 
 
Steve 
 
KE6GDA 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Portable Antenna question

2013-03-11 Thread ke6gda
Hi Lynn,

 

I just picked up a KX3 a few weeks back and of course had the same question. I 
knew wire antennas would work well but wanted to try something different and 
see what would work if I found myself out in the desert or jumping on the air 
from the beach, so I went with the super antenna MP1 with the optional tripod 
base. I set it up in my back yard (in less than 10 min) and added a few more 
radials onto it than what it came with. Set the KX3 up on the patio table and 
fired it up. First QSO was to Alaska from the SF bay area on CW using 3 watts 
on internal batteries. I was excited considering I had very low expectations of 
the antenna. But it worked. The main thing I like about it is that it setup and 
break down is very easy, and the foot print is really small. I have limited 
antenna options at home and am using a hustler 6btv that’s concealed in painted 
PVC pipe hidden in the trees. My plans for this weekend are to set the MP1 back 
up and do some a/b comps with the hustler. 

 

On a side note, I went to New Mexico the week after I got my KX3. The super 
antenna breaks down really small and I had no problem sticking it in the 
pelican case I put together for the setup. Took the whole package radio and all 
as a carry-on onto the plane with out any problems. Got to New Mexico and set 
it up and had a blast. Are there other ideas that will work better, definitely, 
but for $100 for a small vertical it worked wonders. I figure if I find myself 
in a hotel room it would also work wonders.

 

I also picked up one of those MFJ 20 meter loaded telescoping antennas that 
plugs into the KX3 bnc connector. I added some radials to the KX3 case and 
started working JT65 while sitting at my kitchen table. Called CQ and started 
checking the PSKreporter website. Stations all along the east coast were 
picking me up from the SF bay area. The only issue I had was RFI causing the 
mousepad to freeze up. With JT65, that’s not a huge problem, but that would be 
an issue with PSK31 or RTTY. With the MP1 I did not have any RFI issues. 

 

As someone else mentioned trying out all different kind of antennas is a lot of 
fun, and I’m not going to lie, I’ve spent most my free time playing with the 
KX3 and different antennas and have somewhat abandoned the shack hihi.

 

73,

 

Steve

KE6GDA



Sent from Windows Mail


From: Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
Sent: ‎March‎ ‎8‎, ‎2013 ‎7‎:‎16‎ ‎PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Portable Antenna question


My new KX3 is due to arrive on Monday -- with the KXAT3 tuner.

I saw some discussion of wire lengths that worked well with the tuner, 
and of course, now I can't find it.

I plan on mostly portable operation -- no place where I live for a nice 
antenna (and probably hard to get the OK from management).

Anyone have any practical experience to share?

73 -- Lynn, WB6UUT

P.S. Hi Lyle
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 burn-in concerns?

2013-03-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
No. The only possible issue is backlight failure, just like your computer or
TV screen. 

There is no high-energy electron beam smashing into phosphorous atoms like
used to illuminate told CRT-type displays. 

73 Ron AC7AC


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ralph Parker
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 11:57 AM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 burn-in concerns?

Now that the P3 is my favourite accessory, I've wondered about this.
If I leave it on for hours, maybe even days, is there any danger of
'burn-in' or eventual fade-out like there used to be on the old CRT devices?

Ralph, VE7XF

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Re: [Elecraft] General coverage bandpa

2013-03-11 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


I put BPF boards in both receivers but if I had only one it would
go in the sub RX.  1) I am more likely to use the out of band Rx
for listening to the "AM Band" and using the Sub RX with a separate
antenna eliminates the losses associated with the pin diode T/R switch.
2) I am likely to want to use the main RX for normal ham operations
while listening to something else (WWV, route weather, SW BC, etc.)
and having the second RX available for the SWLing even when using the
transceiver normally "just makes sense".

On the other hand, if I had a need to *transmit* outside the ham bands
I would have no choice other than to put the BPF in the main RX.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/11/2013 3:15 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:

Harlan,

I chose the main receiver since I assumed most casual listening outside
the ham bands would not involve both Rx.  Also, I use the main receiver
on the 500-KHz band for operating with an experimental license.  The
general coverage board is required to operate out of a ham band in TEST
mode.  That is how I transmit on the 600 meter band; taking 1mw level RF
to drive a modified surplus NDB transmitter (the K3 replaces the
original xtal osc.).

But I guess it would reduce to a personal decision for deciding which
receiver to install it in.

73, Ed - KL7UW

From: Harlan 
To: Elecraft Email 
Subject: [Elecraft] General coverage bandpass module
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

For those with the sub receiver and only one bandpass module...

Which receiver is it assigned to and why did you pick that receiver?

Harlan
NC3C

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[Elecraft] General coverage bandpa

2013-03-11 Thread Edward R Cole

Harlan,

I chose the main receiver since I assumed most casual listening 
outside the ham bands would not involve both Rx.  Also, I use the 
main receiver on the 500-KHz band for operating with an experimental 
license.  The general coverage board is required to operate out of a 
ham band in TEST mode.  That is how I transmit on the 600 meter band; 
taking 1mw level RF to drive a modified surplus NDB transmitter (the 
K3 replaces the original xtal osc.).


But I guess it would reduce to a personal decision for deciding which 
receiver to install it in.


73, Ed - KL7UW

From: Harlan 
To: Elecraft Email 
Subject: [Elecraft] General coverage bandpass module
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

For those with the sub receiver and only one bandpass module...

Which receiver is it assigned to and why did you pick that receiver?

Harlan
NC3C

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[Elecraft] P3 burn-in concerns?

2013-03-11 Thread Ralph Parker
Now that the P3 is my favourite accessory, I've wondered about this.
If I leave it on for hours, maybe even days, is there any danger of
'burn-in' or eventual fade-out like there used to be on the old CRT devices?

Ralph, VE7XF

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Re: [Elecraft] What did I do wrong with my headphones??

2013-03-11 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV



I had the same problem (and still have) with my old Heilsound
headset: the 3.5 mm plug doesn't fit perfectly in the rear phone
socket. Fortunately my new Heilsound headset does.


If it was old enough, the old headset probably had 1 1/8" (3.175 mm)
plug instead of a 3.5 mm plug.  The difference isn't much - but just
enough that a 1/8" plug is "sloppy" in most 3.5mm jacks.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/11/2013 2:22 PM, Piero wrote:

Il 10/03/2013 17:33, tomb18 ha scritto:

...
So, a long story, but what's up with the 3.5mm that it doesn't fit in the
phone plug adapter?  Is it something different than a 3.5?  Why do
manufactures like heil use such cheap connectors like an mp3 player??They
always break.
Thanks, Tom VA2FSQ



I had the same problem (and still have) with my old Heilsound headset:
the 3.5 mm plug
doesn't fit perfectly in the rear phone socket.
Fortunately my new Heilsound headset does.
Same brand, same plugs but just little different diameters!:-(
73 de IK2VTJ, Piero.
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Re: [Elecraft] What did I do wrong with my headphones??

2013-03-11 Thread Piero

Il 10/03/2013 17:33, tomb18 ha scritto:

...
So, a long story, but what's up with the 3.5mm that it doesn't fit in the
phone plug adapter?  Is it something different than a 3.5?  Why do
manufactures like heil use such cheap connectors like an mp3 player??They
always break.
Thanks, Tom VA2FSQ


I had the same problem (and still have) with my old 
Heilsound headset: the 3.5 mm plug

doesn't fit perfectly in the rear phone socket.
Fortunately my new Heilsound headset does.
Same brand, same plugs but just little different diameters!:-(
73 de IK2VTJ, Piero.
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[Elecraft] Hunt in the 40 acre woods!

2013-03-11 Thread Dale Putnam
The 40 acre hunt with NK6A and N0UR, Don and Jim, as Foxii will begin Tueday 
evening (local time) at the same local time as always.. so set your zulu  alarm 
clock to wake the zulu folks at 0100. That way they won't be late (r).   ;-)
Good Luck to each and every one of us hounds.. and of course to the two 
FOXii...  
May the Props be EVER in  YOUR favor!! 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RE: S Meter

2013-03-11 Thread Fred Jensen
I must be missing something in this recurring "RF Gain" thread.  In the 
"olden days" before product detectors [think SX-28], for CW, you turned 
AGC off, AF gain to max, and used the RF gain.  The BFO produced a 
constant signal that activated the AGC if it was on, and with the RF 
gain at max, the received signal was way too high at the mixer compared 
to the BFO level which was constant.  The S-meter didn't work for CW and 
that funny sounding new mode called SSB.


Today, I run my K3 with RF gain at max, AF gain controls the volume, AGC 
is on ... SLOW for SSB, FAST for CW ... all the time.  After all the 
comments in this thread, I've tried "riding the RF gain" with AGC off on 
very weak signals.  CW signal readability doesn't change.  If I could 
barely copy him with AGC on, I can equally barely copy him without AGC. 
 The only effects I can find are:  1) I'm fiddling with the controls a 
whole lot more and if QSB occurs he disappears until I manage to bring 
up the gain; and 2) A strong station that appears in the passband is 
really really loud in the cans.


I leave my P3 set with dBm on the ordinate.  Except on RTTY, the P3 
averaging prevents the apparent peaks from actually matching the peaks 
on the S-meter and I kind of like to see the real baseline noise level 
at the receiver input.


Based on this thread, I must be doing something really wrong.  My K3's 
AGC does a super job of controlling the RF gain, far better than I can 
do manually, and my S-meter works in all modes.  Explanations on what 
I'm missing are welcome.


My "rememberer" remembers a receiver that had both a real RF gain 
control and an IF gain control separately.  I don't remember the name 
however.  I'll look in Fred Cady's book this afternoon and see if the K3 
HW AGC is actually applied to the RF stage [not sure there is one], the 
first mixer, or just the first IF amp chain.  I remember audio-derived 
AGC ... it was OK for phone, not so much so for CW.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
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On 3/11/2013 3:08 AM, Mike Rodgers wrote:


By the way, I don't want to incur the cost of a P3 to "fix" the RF Gain PAIN.
I'm just having to live with it.



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Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

2013-03-11 Thread Fred Smith


Ron

I could not agree more the days of twist and shout are over for the shack,
but for portable with my KX3 it's fine.

Fred/N0AZZ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 11:29 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

For better or for worse, most Hams have moved beyond the days of sitting
quietly in front of the receiver and tuning very slowly across a seemingly
"dead" band listening for the whisper of a signal. 

For me it was at once a frustrating and a magical experience far removed
from today's shacks filled with huge flat panels displaying the activity
across the band at a glance, the computer screens showing the latest
activity reported on the internet, and rigs that QSY anywhere in the
spectrum at the touch of a single button.  

As an old pilot, for me it's the difference between floating through the sky
in my J3 "Cub" with little more than an altimeter and a big windshield in
from of me and visiting a modern airliner cockpit filled with glass panel
displays and computers actually doing the flying while the pilot sips a cup
of coffee.

73 Ron AC7AC

 

-Original Message-

It's still as tough as it's always been, just like a hailstorm of callers
for which you need a good rx and even better ears to sort out.  As the
population of P3s and other panadapters expands, more random listening might
help, rather than ploughing a furrow.

David
G3UNA
T32C


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Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

2013-03-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
For better or for worse, most Hams have moved beyond the days of sitting
quietly in front of the receiver and tuning very slowly across a seemingly
"dead" band listening for the whisper of a signal. 

For me it was at once a frustrating and a magical experience far removed
from today's shacks filled with huge flat panels displaying the activity
across the band at a glance, the computer screens showing the latest
activity reported on the internet, and rigs that QSY anywhere in the
spectrum at the touch of a single button.  

As an old pilot, for me it's the difference between floating through the sky
in my J3 "Cub" with little more than an altimeter and a big windshield in
from of me and visiting a modern airliner cockpit filled with glass panel
displays and computers actually doing the flying while the pilot sips a cup
of coffee.

73 Ron AC7AC

 

-Original Message-

It's still as tough as it's always been, just like a hailstorm of callers
for which you need a good rx and even better ears to sort out.  As the
population of P3s and other panadapters expands, more random listening might
help, rather than ploughing a furrow.

David
G3UNA
T32C


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Speaker Amp Protection

2013-03-11 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


> http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/AF_Output_Mod_Rev_C.pdf

This is an entirely different (and older) modification.  Output Mod
Rev C is designed to prevent damage to the right channel of the AF
amp when it is "open circuit" as it is when SPEAKERS=2 with a single
speaker attached.

The modification that Paul is inquiring about is designed to protect
the AF amplifier when the output is short circuited - e.g. connecting
a *mono* plug with SPEAKERS=2 - or in case of overload (a sudden static
"crash" or high level carrier with AGC=OFF) when using low (4 Ohm)
impedance speakers.

The latter modification has never been documented but I assume it
involves adding 2R2 or 2R7 resistors in series with the blocking
capacitor - perhaps replacing L13 and L16 on the KIO3 Audio Board.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/11/2013 10:41 AM, David G4DMP wrote:

I wouldn't have thought this needed a mod kit, Paul. It only requires
two 470 ohm resistors which the application note states will be supplied
by sending an e-mail if required.

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/AF_Output_Mod_Rev_C.pdf

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Paul Kirley  writes


http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-speaker-audio-gone-td7561739.htm
l#a7561747

Because I prefer to open my K3 only in low-static months, it's time to
ask about the status of this mod, which hasn't yet appeared on the K3
mod webpage.  Will it be available within the next few months?

73, Paul W8TM



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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Portable Antenna question

2013-03-11 Thread wa5pok
My favorite is a 20 meter DEZ, 86 feet fed in the center with open wire 
line. Works OK on 80, good on 40 and 30, excellent on 20 and 10 and ok on 
17, 15, and 10. Now in my current apartment I hid 43' up a tree and hid 43' 
horizontally. I feed it with open wire line from a balun connected to the 
back of my K3. I have Just started DXCC on RTTY and in three days have WAC 
and 20 countries.


73 es GL! Mike WA5POK

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From: "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" 
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 11:16 PM
To: 
Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] Portable Antenna question


My new KX3 is due to arrive on Monday -- with the KXAT3 tuner.

I saw some discussion of wire lengths that worked well with the tuner, and 
of course, now I can't find it.


I plan on mostly portable operation -- no place where I live for a nice 
antenna (and probably hard to get the OK from management).


Anyone have any practical experience to share?

73 -- Lynn, WB6UUT

P.S. Hi Lyle
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Speaker Amp Protection

2013-03-11 Thread David G4DMP
I wouldn't have thought this needed a mod kit, Paul. It only requires
two 470 ohm resistors which the application note states will be supplied
by sending an e-mail if required.

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/AF_Output_Mod_Rev_C.pdf

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Paul Kirley  writes

>http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-speaker-audio-gone-td7561739.htm
>l#a7561747
>
>Because I prefer to open my K3 only in low-static months, it's time to
>ask about the status of this mod, which hasn't yet appeared on the K3
>mod webpage.  Will it be available within the next few months?
>
>73, Paul W8TM

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Re: [Elecraft] K-3 S meter

2013-03-11 Thread Toby Pennington
Mike,  I also would like to see the S-meter deflection done away with.  

It is not practical to use the P3 to indicate signal strength because of 
constant looking back and forth from the rig to the P3.  It's "another step" 
from just being able to look at the K3 S meter.  Some may not find that a 
problem,  but for me it is not intuitive. 
   
Not only that,   but the P3 is expensive,  especially if you have the SVGA 
board.

Someone posted here that this would take a hardware mod and is not doable by 
firmware.  

So,  I have decided to try one of Ten Tec's rigs,   maybe the Omni 7.  
Quadruple band stacking registers sounds nice,  and no more S meter deflection. 
 Not a highly rated rig according to Sherwood,  and certainly not the best for 
CW because the BW is limited at 300hz.  (maybe 200hz)  But,  for casual 
operating this might be nice. 

Something to doToby  
W4CAK

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[Elecraft] K3 Speaker Amp Protection

2013-03-11 Thread Paul Kirley
Last August, Wayne N6KR posted:

>The mod I was talking about is newer (2010, I believe). It involves a
 
>pair of very small-valued resistors in series with the AF output   
>coupling capacitors. This, too, is in production. 
>
>However, I just looked on the K3 mods page, and it appears that we   
>never did turn this into a mod kit. We'll get this corrected right
away. 

http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-speaker-audio-gone-td7561739.htm
l#a7561747

Because I prefer to open my K3 only in low-static months, it's time to
ask about the status of this mod, which hasn't yet appeared on the K3
mod webpage.  Will it be available within the next few months?

73, Paul W8TM

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Re: [Elecraft] General coverage bandpass module

2013-03-11 Thread hawley, charles j jr
Main receiver. Didn't think about it, could move it if a reason came up.


Sent from my iPad
Chuck, KE9UW 
(Jack for BMW motorcycles)

On Mar 10, 2013, at 9:58 PM, "Harlan"  wrote:

> For those with the sub receiver and only one bandpass module...
> 
> Which receiver is it assigned to and why did you pick that receiver?
> 
> Harlan
> NC3C
> 
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[Elecraft] [K3] RE: S Meter

2013-03-11 Thread Mike Rodgers
I'll second the comments below. 

By the way, I don't want to incur the cost of a P3 to "fix" the RF Gain PAIN. 
I'm just having to live with it. 


ate: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 10:30:51 -0500
From: drewko 
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 S-Meter
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Don,

I always seem to have my RF gain adjusted by ear to below where the
s-meter will deflect on a particular signal. So I will most always
have to readjust the gain to see an s-meter reading. The RF gain can
be adjusted much lower than the signal's meter deflection point but
still have an audible signal. A moderate strength signal can still be
heard when the RF gain has been turned down to the point where the
s-meter incicates s9+40 db. 

The more I think about it the less useful it seems to have the meter
deflect upward with a lowered RF gain setting. Does anyone find this
action useful for tuning in a signal? 

I know that I would be fiddling around with the RF gain control a lot
less if the s-meter display was not affected by the gain control. Why
not make the s-meter "absolute mode", which is independent of the
attenuation setting, also independent of the RF gain control? That
seems more consistent and logical to me.

73,
Drew
AF2Z


73
Mike R


Play me some fiddle, but no stinkin' violin!

Amateur/Ham Radio KE5GBC
HF & Echolink mobile
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Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

2013-03-11 Thread David Cutter
It's still as tough as it's always been, just like a hailstorm of callers 
for which you need a good rx and even better ears to sort out.  As the 
population of P3s and other panadapters expands, more random listening might 
help, rather than ploughing a furrow.


David
G3UNA
T32C




Perhaps this is why DXpeditions seem to play "spin the dial" more; having 
many stations converge on the last rx frequency probably tends to slow 
their rate.  I experienced this effect at PZ5RO.  It would be interesting 
to get feedback from DXpedition ops.


73, Redd - AI2N


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Re: [Elecraft] 5mHz

2013-03-11 Thread G4LNA
Thank you for the replies, I will contact Elecraft support.

73 Paul G4LNA



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Re: [Elecraft] 5mHz

2013-03-11 Thread Tom H Childers
Send Elecraft an email and they will tell what you need to do to get
software that will open all the HF bands except CB and near the IF
frequency.

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member 

On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 16:01:09 -0700 (PDT), G4LNA 
wrote:

>I have searched for this question and I can't seemed to see if it has been
>asked before, which I'm surprised about.
>My K3 presently tunes from 5330.00 kHz to 5407.00kHz but the UK band now has
>a range of frequencies from 5258.50kHz to 5403.50kHz, so when I tune below
>5330.00kHz I get the out of band message if I try and transmit below that
>frequency.
>
>Are there any plans to update the firmware to take into account the extra
>frequencies?

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