[Elecraft] KX3 roofing filter query

2013-07-31 Thread Chris Meagher
Hi,  I have installed the optional roofing filter into my KX3 #4559.

The manual advises that bandwidth switches to 3000Hz when Weaver
demodulation is in use on SSB. However when I reduce the RX passband to
2.4KHz, which is when Weaver is supposed to kick in, it stays on FL1, until
I reach 1.7KHz. At this point, FL2 is activated, however this is so narrow
that it is close to unintelligible.

Is this normal, or am I missing something?  Maybe using width/shift rather
than Hi-lo cut doesn't activate Weaver? I would much appreciate some
enlightenment as to how it all works, as I'm mainly interested in close in
rejection, without having to discern which side the intrusion is coming
from. Also I find anything below about 2KHz bandwidth too difficult to
discern.

Chris  VK2ACD
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 roofing filter query

2013-07-31 Thread Don Wilhelm

Chris,

The fault is in human ears and their perception of human speech.
There must be some content in the 300 to 600 Hz region to maintain 
intelligibility.
Using Hi-Cut only, you should be able to reduce the high end to about 
1500 Hz while still maintaining intelligible speech.
But if one tries to cut the low end much above 400 Hz, you lose 
intelligibility fast.


If you are using width/shift, you will have to reduce the width and then 
use shift to regain intelligibility.  IMHO, it is easier to use Hi-cut 
and just cut the high end while leaving the low end at 300 Hz.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/31/2013 5:24 AM, Chris Meagher wrote:

Hi,  I have installed the optional roofing filter into my KX3 #4559.

The manual advises that bandwidth switches to 3000Hz when Weaver
demodulation is in use on SSB. However when I reduce the RX passband to
2.4KHz, which is when Weaver is supposed to kick in, it stays on FL1, until
I reach 1.7KHz. At this point, FL2 is activated, however this is so narrow
that it is close to unintelligible.

Is this normal, or am I missing something?  Maybe using width/shift rather
than Hi-lo cut doesn't activate Weaver? I would much appreciate some
enlightenment as to how it all works, as I'm mainly interested in close in
rejection, without having to discern which side the intrusion is coming
from. Also I find anything below about 2KHz bandwidth too difficult to
discern.




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Beta firmware rev 1.54: CW transmit in SSB mode (etc.)

2013-07-31 Thread Richard Neese
is there a way to add a option under the firmware to show what the 
current batt charge status is ?

so you know if you need to charge or not.

also I have a 12v 4.58 amp power supply I am using and I get a lower 
supply warning when I try to

charge the batt with  the radio in standby mode 

should 4.58 amp 12v not be enough to charge ? I use the supply to run 
the radio and get no issue

sexecpt when I put it in batt charge mode...
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 deaf on 6m comparing to a FCDP+ ?

2013-07-31 Thread Keith Heimbold
I use a separate 6m preamp for the K3. Helps out tremendously. With the advent 
of the new PR6-10 on sale, you can pick up a PR6 off the reflector for sale. I 
recommend it highly if you want to use the K3 for weak signal work.  I also use 
a Collins laboratory preamp from Dr Jack Smith (he is on this reflector) and 
that works great on 6m plus HF.

Good luck!

Keith 
AK6ZZ

Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos

On Jul 30, 2013, at 10:00 PM, "DK5EW"  wrote:

> Hi everybody,
> since I own a FunVubeDonglePro+  I think my K3 is a bit deaf comparing those 
> 2 rigs on same antenna.
> Even with switched on preamp on the K3 it's sensitivity is worse  to the FCDP+
> I only heard about that the K3 is deaf on 6m but never had a comparison.
> Is there a fix to make the K3 hearing better on 6m ?
> 
> -- 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Beta firmware rev 1.54: CW transmit in SSB mode (etc.)

2013-07-31 Thread Richard Neese
would also be a nice option to see a symbol to show if your on batt or 
plugged-in like on a laptop.

but I have a feeling this is a short coming of the lcd and firmware ?

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Beta firmware rev 1.54: CW transmit in SSB mode (etc.)

2013-07-31 Thread Ralf Wilhelm
Hi Richard,

If it really is 12 V, the voltage might be too low. I don't have the manual for 
the charger at hand in the moment, but I think it says it would like to see 
13.8(?) V or something very close to this.

Vy 73

Ralf, DL6OAP



Am 31.07.2013 um 14:37 schrieb Richard Neese :

> is there a way to add a option under the firmware to show what the current 
> batt charge status is ?
> so you know if you need to charge or not.
> 
> also I have a 12v 4.58 amp power supply I am using and I get a lower supply 
> warning when I try to
> charge the batt with  the radio in standby mode 
> 
> should 4.58 amp 12v not be enough to charge ? I use the supply to run the 
> radio and get no issue
> sexecpt when I put it in batt charge mode...
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Beta firmware rev 1.54: CW transmit in SSB mode (etc.)

2013-07-31 Thread Matt Zilmer
You can view the battery voltage using DISP, then dialing to the BT
entry with VFO B.

Your power supply voltage may be set too low to use for charging the
internal battery pack.  If you could raise this voltage to 13.0V or
higher, you wouldn't see the warning when trying to charge.

4.5A at 12V is plenty to run your KX3, but that voltage isn't high
enough to allow the charging circuit to operate.  Just raise the PS
output voltage if possible.  With that supply, you will be able to
charge at the same time as operating the KX3 in any mode.

See the owner's manual section, "KXBC3 Internal NiMH Charger" on p24.

73,
matt W6NIA

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On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:37:43 -0400, you wrote:

>is there a way to add a option under the firmware to show what the 
>current batt charge status is ?
>so you know if you need to charge or not.
>
>also I have a 12v 4.58 amp power supply I am using and I get a lower 
>supply warning when I try to
>charge the batt with  the radio in standby mode 
>
>should 4.58 amp 12v not be enough to charge ? I use the supply to run 
>the radio and get no issue
>sexecpt when I put it in batt charge mode...
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[Elecraft] ok just ordered this and I should have it friday since they are 1 state away

2013-07-31 Thread Richard Neese
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Laptop-AC-Power-Charger-Cord-for-Toshiba-PA3467U-1ACA-PA3468U-1ACA-PA3715U-1ACA-/251134108839?pt=Laptop_Adapters_Chargers&hash=item3a78c264a7 


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[Elecraft] K3 deaf on 6m comparing to a FCDP+ ?

2013-07-31 Thread Johnny Siu
Hello Erwin,
 
No doubt K3 is deaf in 6m.  This is the reason why there is PR-6 or PR6-10 
pre-amp offered by Elecraft.  Upon the installation of those pre-amp, K3 is in 
par with other radios in 6m under the same class.
 
Apart from the choices from Elecraft, you may consider http://www.ha8et.hu/ 
extra-6 which is contest grade pre-amplifier.
 
To be fair to K3, if local RF noise is high in your area, pre-amp will not help 
you anyway.

TNX & 73,


Johnny VR2XMC



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Hi everybody,
since I own a FunVubeDonglePro+  I think my K3 is a bit deaf comparing 
those 2 rigs on same antenna.
Even with switched on preamp on the K3 it's sensitivity is worse  to the 
FCDP+
I only heard about that the K3 is deaf on 6m but never had a comparison.
Is there a fix to make the K3 hearing better on 6m ?

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Erwin/DK5EW

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[Elecraft] ok this unit looks better

2013-07-31 Thread Richard Neese

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Multi-Brands-Compatiable-Universal-Laptop-Notebook-AC-Adapter-Wall-Charger-/170891904858?pt=Laptop_Adapters_Chargers&hash=item27c9f3875a

hunting .
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[Elecraft] CW transmit in SSB mode is also available on the K3

2013-07-31 Thread Wayne Burdick
Just a reminder that the K3 also has CW-in-SSB capability. It is activated the 
same way as on the KX3:  Go into the CW WGHT menu entry and tap '1' to switch 
to "SSB+CW".

This feature is documented in the menu listings in both owner's manuals.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] Fldigi/Flrig and KX3 control investigation. (Before I re-invent the wheel!)

2013-07-31 Thread g8kbvdave
On 29 Jul 2013 at 12:00, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:

> --
> 
> Message: 25
> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 08:46:48 -0500
> From: Nate Bargmann 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re:  Fldigi/Flrig and KX3 control investigation.
>   (Before I re-invent the wheel!)
> Message-ID: <20130729134648.gb27...@n0nb.us>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> * On 2013 29 Jul 08:03 -0500, g8kbvd...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > Hi All.
> > 
> > Before I dive in, and go about creating or fixing drivers for people 
> > who seem to have trouble with the KX3 and Fldigi(Flrig) etc, I took 
> > a look at the current state of things.
> > 
> > On Windows (XP SP3) with Fldigi (V3.21.70, the *Latest* is 3.21.72)
> > 
> > The built in Hamlib driver (V1.2.12) for the K3 works as far as I 
> > can tell (A plesant suprise, no audio connections, and no RF 
> > launched, just basic rig control tried.) 
> 
> Dave did a bunch of work about six weeks ago to be able to include the
> current development branch of Hamlib in Fldigi for Windows builds.  The
> problem is a library we use in Hamlib and we are considering removing
> that library which should allow Fldigi to use Hamlib in the future
> without so much trouble.
> 
> The 1.2.12 release of Hamlib was from before I bought my K3 and then
> fixed up a lot of issues in our Hamlib code.  Since Hamlib 1.2.13 the K3
> support is fairly stable and I may well change it "Stable".  I added the
> KX3 based on Wayne's comment at the time that the two radios would
> support the same command set.  However, the KX3 may benefit from its own
> definition as in the future some things (not used by Fldigi) will be
> slightly different as in a couple of places I rely on emulating button
> presses on the K3, but those will probably be different on the KX3.
> 
> > Even the PTT via Hamlib 
> > command worked, as did tuning and frequency control, also mode 
> > changing but you need to select PKTUSB to get the rig into DATA A 
> > mode.
> 
> That is pretty much a Hamlib quirk of naming.  PKTUSB is intended to
> support radios that have a difference between AFSK and FSK.  Perhaps we
> may look toward either adding a new name or renaming this value to be
> more clear.
> 
> > I also tried on Linux (Lubuntu with Fldigi and Flrig.)  That machine 
> > has a later version of Hamlib (V1.2.15) also the needed driver is 
> > listed as "K3/KX3 Beta", not just "K3".  Again, as it is, it all 
> > seems to work at present, no code changing done at all.
> > 
> > The K3 selection in Flrig works the KX3 too, PTT control, mode and 
> > bandwidth settings seem to work OK.
> 
> I appreciate the feedback.  For Fldigi users the radios are close enough
> that the same definition works.  For other software things like reading
> the S-Meter are likely different due to testing the K3 firmware version
> for SM versus SMH command support.
> 
> > I will check things later when I get home (domestic management 
> > permitting) on Win7 (Home Premium, 32 bit) if the place hasn't been 
> > washed away in the storms, or suffered a direct lightening zap.
> 
> The Win7 support should be the same as for XP as far as Hamlib is
> concerned.
> 
> 73, de Nate >>
> 

Hello Nate (and others) long time etc.

Nate. Not sure if you remember, but you gave me guidance/encouragment some 
time back, when I was trying to get into Hamlib, for other needs.  Sadly, that 
opportunity passed by, as much caused by me using Cygwin on Win2k, and the 
yawningly long build times as a result..  Also, as I found the Skanti radio I 
had 
that time, was also very slow to respond to commands, so.

Anyway.

All understood re the above K3/KX3 history in Hamlib, function/filter naming 
and 
such, and indeed for the same version Fldigi, Hamlib's use with the KX3 is 
about 
the same on Windows (XP..7 and Linux.)

I'm going to look at the filter selection options, as the K3.xml file for 
Fldigi does 
much the same as Hamlib (selects RTTY filters, for "Data" modes)  OK for RTTY, 
but useless for anything else (unless you like to monitor two PSK signals 
perhaps)

I'll see what I can discover and do with the .xml file first off, then report 
back.  
But for general use "USB" cut's it at present, so long as you have manually 
disabled compression, and equalisation etc.   Tuning and TX/RX control all work 
fine.

The better option for KX3 users, is to use Flrig as the radio interface for 
Fldigi, 
(select the K3 option in the radio configuration dialog) as it is posible to 
get the 
"DATA" filter set correctly with that, then AFIK any manually set equalisation 
(TX 
and/or RX) plus compression etc, is automaticaly disabled in DATA mode, but the 
settings remain for when you revert to manual voice modes.

Select DATA in the filter control dropdown, then the bandwidth you want, and 
use the IF Shift control to center it where you want.  Typically, 3000Hz width, 
and 1500Hz center.  (The shift defaults to 1000.)
The KX3 of cou

Re: [Elecraft] K3 deaf on 6m comparing to a FCDP+ ?

2013-07-31 Thread Oliver Dröse

Hi Erwin,

second that. I use the Extra-6 by HA8ET for the K3 and you already have an 
Extra-2 so you know their quality. ;-) Besides this it is way cheaper than 
the PR6 by Elecraft. ;-)


73, Olli - DH8BQA



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From: "Johnny Siu" 

To: ; "Elecraft Reflector" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:52 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 deaf on 6m comparing to a FCDP+ ?



Hello Erwin,

No doubt K3 is deaf in 6m. This is the reason why there is PR-6 or PR6-10 
pre-amp offered by Elecraft. Upon the installation of those pre-amp, K3 is 
in par with other radios in 6m under the same class.


Apart from the choices from Elecraft, you may consider 
http://www.ha8et.hu/ extra-6 which is contest grade pre-amplifier.


To be fair to K3, if local RF noise is high in your area, pre-amp will not 
help you anyway.


TNX & 73,


Johnny VR2XMC



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Hi everybody,
since I own a FunVubeDonglePro+ I think my K3 is a bit deaf comparing
those 2 rigs on same antenna.
Even with switched on preamp on the K3 it's sensitivity is worse to the
FCDP+
I only heard about that the K3 is deaf on 6m but never had a comparison.
Is there a fix to make the K3 hearing better on 6m ?

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 deaf on 6m comparing to a FCDP+ ?

2013-07-31 Thread DK5EW

Hi Olli,
right I will do so !
73's Erwin/DK5EW

Am 31.07.2013 18:56, schrieb Oliver Dröse:

Hi Erwin,

second that. I use the Extra-6 by HA8ET for the K3 and you already 
have an Extra-2 so you know their quality. ;-) Besides this it is way 
cheaper than the PR6 by Elecraft. ;-)


73, Olli - DH8BQA



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Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:52 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 deaf on 6m comparing to a FCDP+ ?



Hello Erwin,

No doubt K3 is deaf in 6m. This is the reason why there is PR-6 or 
PR6-10 pre-amp offered by Elecraft. Upon the installation of those 
pre-amp, K3 is in par with other radios in 6m under the same class.


Apart from the choices from Elecraft, you may consider 
http://www.ha8et.hu/ extra-6 which is contest grade pre-amplifier.


To be fair to K3, if local RF noise is high in your area, pre-amp 
will not help you anyway.


TNX & 73,


Johnny VR2XMC



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Hi everybody,
since I own a FunVubeDonglePro+ I think my K3 is a bit deaf comparing
those 2 rigs on same antenna.
Even with switched on preamp on the K3 it's sensitivity is worse to the
FCDP+
I only heard about that the K3 is deaf on 6m but never had a comparison.
Is there a fix to make the K3 hearing better on 6m ?

--
best regards
Erwin/DK5EW

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[Elecraft] ok just ordered this and I should have it friday since they are 1 state away

2013-07-31 Thread Edward R Cole
Did you read the voltage spec on the listing?  This charger is rated 
for 19vdc at 3.95 a  Your KX3 is rated for 8-15vdc.
You should NEVER turn on the KX3 with this power source 
connected!  Otherwise it will be Bye-Bye KX3 and Bye-Bye waranty (I 
would guess).


Same CAUTION goes for using "wall wart" types of charger 
cubes.  Typically they rise very high in voltage unloaded.  Use a 
voltmeter to measure any power supply before connecting to an 
expensive piece of equipment (note if the voltage polarity is 
correct).  Experience of 45-years and a million miles of workbench 
riding!  DON'T ASSUME - Measure!


The MFJ charger that was cited sounds like a better-safer way to 
go.  If you need voltage about 14.2vdc to get good charging most of 
these have an internal voltage adjust pot.  Again measure it if you 
decide to "adjust"!


73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
dubus...@gmail.com
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[Elecraft] K3 deaf on 6m comparing to a FCDP+ ?

2013-07-31 Thread Edward R Cole
Another source of good preamps is Advanced Receiver Research.  I am 
using their P50VDG preamp which has similar specs to the PR6 for NF 
and gain (But not for strong signal handling or for signal pass thru 
when not running the preamp).

http://www.kl7uw.com/K3-ARR-6mPreamp.jpg

Also, I recently tested both the KX3 and K3 for receiver 
performance.  Tables found here:

http://www.kl7uw.com/HF.htm

I used the XG3 with a 30-dB step attenuator to make these measurements.

73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 deaf on 6m comparing to a FCDP+ ?

2013-07-31 Thread hb9...@bluewin.ch
Hi Erwin,

I own an "old" K3 (#1212) and a FCDP+ too.
Without a PR-6 (or an other low noise preamp)
i admit that the 

FCDP+ is better on 6m, speaking of sensitivity only.
I bought the PR-6 after the K3, when i was
a little bit 
disappointed with the K3 6m 
sensitivity.

My best 73,
Rudi, HB9ARI

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De: dk...@mmmonvhf.de

Date: 31.07.2013 06:59
À: 
"Elecraft Reflector"
Objet: [Elecraft] K3 deaf on 6m comparing to 
a FCDP+ ?

Hi everybody,

since I own a FunVubeDonglePro+  I think my K3 is a bit deaf comparing 
those 2 rigs on same 
antenna.
Even with 
switched on preamp on the K3 it's sensitivity is worse  to the 
FCDP+
I only heard about that the 
K3 is deaf on 6m but 
never had a comparison.
Is there a fix to make the K3 hearing better on 6m ?

-- 
best regards

Erwin/DK5EW

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 deaf on 6m comparing to a FCDP+ ?

2013-07-31 Thread DK5EW

Hi dear Rudi,
yes so far I learned that a preamp is needed for serious 6m operation 
with the K3. TNX for your info as well.

*
As you write you use also the FCDP+. How do you use it together with the 
K3 ? Is there any circuit out there ?

Or better is there any hint to connect it to the K3?
*
Would be nice to have such a solution.
*
73's Erwin/DK5EW


Am 31.07.2013 20:54, schrieb hb9...@bluewin.ch:

Hi Erwin,

I own an "old" K3 (#1212) and a FCDP+ too.
Without a PR-6 (or an other low noise preamp)
i admit that the

FCDP+ is better on 6m, speaking of sensitivity only.
I bought the PR-6 after the K3, when i was
a little bit
disappointed with the K3 6m
sensitivity.

My best 73,
Rudi, HB9ARI

Message d'origine
De: dk...@mmmonvhf.de

Date: 31.07.2013 06:59
À:
"Elecraft Reflector"
Objet: [Elecraft] K3 deaf on 6m comparing to
a FCDP+ ?

Hi everybody,

since I own a FunVubeDonglePro+  I think my K3 is a bit deaf comparing
those 2 rigs on same
antenna.
Even with
switched on preamp on the K3 it's sensitivity is worse  to the
FCDP+
I only heard about that the
K3 is deaf on 6m but
never had a comparison.
Is there a fix to make the K3 hearing better on 6m ?



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[Elecraft] KAT 2 Woes

2013-07-31 Thread Tom Field
I was reaching the final stages of installing the KAT2 to my K2. When I
added power, I heard some sizzling and smelled smoke, This didn't happen
with previous power up testing and the build and testing seemed to go
without problems. I noticed that U1 was warm.
Careful inspection showed that when I plugged J8 into the Control Board of
the k2, I inadvertently shifted the plug up one space, causing the wrong
signals/voltage to go down the wire. Corrected that and proceeded to test.
The menu for the ATU appeared without problems and the Ant1/2 cycled on and
off appropriately. When Checking voltage on U4, during TUNE at 5 , I only
get 0.3 to 0.4 volts.
The manual suggests that there is a problem with the build of the SWR
bridge. Will check that, but my question is did I fry U1 and could that be
the cause of what I see?

Tom Field
KI6NRD
K2 # 7432

Note: The K2 was working fine as a QRP CW machine prior  to this.
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