[Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

2013-08-26 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka

I was copying RTTY on my P3 SVGA and I found that it was dropping a lot
of characters. I finally figured out how to decode directly on the K3
and it wasn't dropping characters at all.

Is there something I have set up incorrectly?

Thanks.

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Spurii and a cure.

2013-08-26 Thread Richard Fjeld
Perhaps it was for the SVGA adapter, but I remember instructions to secure the 
cable closely along side  the cabinet to prevent a problem of 
interference/radiation.

Dick, n0ce

  - Original Message - 
  From: Roger Crofts 
  To: elecraft reflector 
  Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 5:57 PM
  Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Spurii and a cure.


  I have had 2 problems with my P3 Panadapter, both were the subject of comment 
on the Reflector.

  The first was spurii radiated from the P3 DC cord and picked by my nearby 
antenna on 144 MHz.
  This problem was largely solved by fitting a commercial RFI filter in the DC 
cord and ensuring that all panels were clear of paint in the corners where the 
connections are made.
  The second problem was the occurrence of wideband noise humps which drift 
across the display from time to time obliterating the genuine signals. I dubbed 
the characteristic doubled-humped noise signature as my noise monster. 
Experiment showed that these spurii and noise products were being generated in 
the P3 itself. It was not possible to precisely pin-point the source of these 
signals inside the P3 using a small pick-up loop. The signals were strong 
everywhere inside the P3 box, but, perhaps, were strongest near the processor 
chips. This would seem to make sense, but not everyone has these problems, so 
clearly the mechanism for producing this hash, varies from chip to chip.
  Thanks to everyone who responded. I am now able to report I have found a 
complete cure for these problems which works in my case, but, of course, I can 
not guarantee it will work in every similar case.

  The cure involves the use of conductive foam. This is the black foam that ICs 
are normally pushed into when they are delivered. It is carbon impregnated. You 
can tell the difference between this conductive foam and ordinary foam using an 
ohmmeter. Pressing the probes against the conductive foam will give a reading 
of a few Kohms. Ordinary foam will be open circuit. This foam is available from 
many electronic suppliers. I bought my foam from Farnell Electronics (Now 
called Element 14 in Australia), order code 168-7846. The cost is 89 cents for 
a sheet about the size of the P3 side panel. I cut the foam to form 
compartments to completely isolate the front panel, IF input board, and IO 
board. I even put foam between the folds of the ribbon cable. In doing this I 
was carefully not to allow the foam to actually touch any components or bare 
wires, otherwise a circuit would be formed. I cut the foam panels deliberately 
oversize vertically, so that when the lid was screwed down, th
 er
   e was pressure to make sure the foam had a conduction path to ground. The 
result of this work was that all spurii have disappeared and my noise monster 
has never shown its face again.

  My theory is that the foam is effective because it actually absorbs the RF 
signals and turns them harmlessly into minute amounts of heat. The problem with 
metal screening and chokes/capacitors is that these devices simply reflex the 
RF back. But back to where? The whole P3 box is already abuzz with these 
signals and they will try to get out anyway they can. The foam kills them dead. 
That's my theory anyway. If you have these or similar problems, give it a go.

  73 Roger, VK4YB
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Re: [Elecraft] Use MMTTY with K3/0 to K3

2013-08-26 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Steve,

The K3/0 accepts a standard stereo 1/8" (3.5mm) plug for both the line in
and the line out. The computer is probably the same for it's line out but
could be a mono plug for it's line in (or mic in). He'll have to investigate
his computer. He can likely purchase what he needs at Radio Shack but these
cables would be much cheaper with greater variety on-line from places like:

http://www.cablewholesale.com/index.php

http://www.monoprice.com/

http://www.amazon.com

73,
Mike K2MK


Steven Bertsch wrote
> My friend wants to use MMTTY with his K3/0 remoting to my K3. He wants to
> use AFSK. He is elderly and can't solder anymore so can he just buy the
> cables that will go from his computer sound card to the K3/0 line in and
> out?
> 
> Steve K6SAB





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[Elecraft] P3 Spurii and a cure.

2013-08-26 Thread Roger Crofts
I have had 2 problems with my P3 Panadapter, both were the subject of comment 
on the Reflector.

The first was spurii radiated from the P3 DC cord and picked by my nearby 
antenna on 144 MHz.
This problem was largely solved by fitting a commercial RFI filter in the DC 
cord and ensuring that all panels were clear of paint in the corners where the 
connections are made.
The second problem was the occurrence of wideband noise humps which drift 
across the display from time to time obliterating the genuine signals. I dubbed 
the characteristic doubled-humped noise signature as my noise monster. 
Experiment showed that these spurii and noise products were being generated in 
the P3 itself. It was not possible to precisely pin-point the source of these 
signals inside the P3 using a small pick-up loop. The signals were strong 
everywhere inside the P3 box, but, perhaps, were strongest near the processor 
chips. This would seem to make sense, but not everyone has these problems, so 
clearly the mechanism for producing this hash, varies from chip to chip.
Thanks to everyone who responded. I am now able to report I have found a 
complete cure for these problems which works in my case, but, of course, I can 
not guarantee it will work in every similar case.

The cure involves the use of conductive foam. This is the black foam that ICs 
are normally pushed into when they are delivered. It is carbon impregnated. You 
can tell the difference between this conductive foam and ordinary foam using an 
ohmmeter. Pressing the probes against the conductive foam will give a reading 
of a few Kohms. Ordinary foam will be open circuit. This foam is available from 
many electronic suppliers. I bought my foam from Farnell Electronics (Now 
called Element 14 in Australia), order code 168-7846. The cost is 89 cents for 
a sheet about the size of the P3 side panel. I cut the foam to form 
compartments to completely isolate the front panel, IF input board, and IO 
board. I even put foam between the folds of the ribbon cable. In doing this I 
was carefully not to allow the foam to actually touch any components or bare 
wires, otherwise a circuit would be formed. I cut the foam panels deliberately 
oversize vertically, so that when the lid was screwed down, ther
 e was pressure to make sure the foam had a conduction path to ground. The 
result of this work was that all spurii have disappeared and my noise monster 
has never shown its face again.

My theory is that the foam is effective because it actually absorbs the RF 
signals and turns them harmlessly into minute amounts of heat. The problem with 
metal screening and chokes/capacitors is that these devices simply reflex the 
RF back. But back to where? The whole P3 box is already abuzz with these 
signals and they will try to get out anyway they can. The foam kills them dead. 
That's my theory anyway. If you have these or similar problems, give it a go.

73 Roger, VK4YB
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[Elecraft] Use MMTTY with K3/0 to K3

2013-08-26 Thread Steven Bertsch
My friend wants to use MMTTY with his K3/0 remoting to my K3. He wants to use 
AFSK. He is elderly and can't solder anymore so can he just buy the cables that 
will go from his computer sound card to the K3/0 line in and out?

Steve K6SAB

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and whats next from Elecraft - my 2 cents

2013-08-26 Thread AD6XY
How about a serious VHF/UHF radio ?



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Re: [Elecraft] K-2 observation

2013-08-26 Thread Gary W. Hvizdak
Moments ago Don (W3FPR) wrote ...
 
... you might try re-flowing the solder on the Front Panel board with a hot
iron (750 degF) and add just a touch of solder - actually all you need is
the flux.
 
--
 
Vern,
 
Just to emphasize what Don means, you should NEVER REHEAT/REFLOW A SOLDER
JOINT WITHOUT ADDING SOME "FRESH" FLUX as this will result in a very poor
and very unreliable solder joint.  And a flux pen is a better source than
using additional solder, because you don't want too much solder.  Yes,
solder can be used as a source of "fresh" flux in a pinch -- in the absence
of a flux pen -- but you might first want to remove some of the existing
solder.
 
Elaborating a bit further, a blob of solder on the tip of your iron isn't a
solution, as the flux would have already burned off by that point.  Instead,
Don is suggesting that the solder would need to be feed directly into the
joint once it's hot.
 
If you have to resort to reheating every joint on the Front Panel, then I
suggest a flux pen (or other similar flux dispenser) is a must!
 
73,
Gary  KI4GGX
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and whats next from Elecraft - my 2 cents

2013-08-26 Thread F5vjc
I think it's time for a K3 firmware update...

73, F5VJC


On 22 August 2013 23:25, Lee Buller  wrote:

>
>
> The K3 is a fine radio and not much could be added to such a
> fine piece of work.
>
>
> But, doing research on the internet I found that if you
> could degauss the ion slip stream, ratchet up the electronobulator, and
> then
> put in some plasticized radionic grease on the shafts …Elecraft could
> increase
> the affection factor by 1278.3410.  Now…we’re
> talking.
>
> Of course, you would have to add a situational magna-inducer
> to the final stage that would increase the efficiency to 178.6 percent
> while
> reducing the total joules per second to a minimal and safe level.  This
> would make the FCC very happy because
> the Frozone Zone would be infinitesimally small thus saving millions of
> lives.
>
> Coupled with the new radically opposed singularity, the K3
> could take an operator to the far reaches of propagation with resounding
> clarity and brightness.   Work could be done to super-charge the
> eletronobulator to increase the density of the induction Hickcock field
> coils
> which would give you enormous amounts of gain both transmit and receive
> throughout the spectrum, here and on worlds not yet discovered.
>
> Now we know that the flux-capacity is old hat and should not
> even be considered, but the new cranial cold fusion super flux capacitor
> would
> fit well into the box and provide output that we’ve never seen as amateur
> radio
> operators.  Then, there is the possibility
> that you could run two cranial cold fusion super flux capacitors in
> parallel
> without marginalizing the receiver but keeping the QSO rate well above
> 1,000
> per hour.
>
> I will continue to research new developments on the Internet
> to see what new features could be incorporated in the K3 in the far
> distance
> future.
>
> Lee - K0WA
>
>
> In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you
> don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you
> can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common
> Sense.  Is Common Sense divine?
>
> Common Sense is the image of the Creator expressing revealed truth in my
> mind. -  John W. (Kansas)
>
> Never interfere with anything that isn't bothering you.
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[Elecraft] PR6-10

2013-08-26 Thread Mike Harris
Thinking of swapping out my PR6 for the PR6-10.  Would be interested in 
any comments from those who have already made the change to a 6-10 or 
10.  There have been a few PR6 for sale notices on the list.


Quiet location here.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO
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Re: [Elecraft] K-2 observation

2013-08-26 Thread Don Wilhelm

Vern,

The display has no relationship to any band.  My guess is that there is 
a bad solder connection on the front panel - unfortunately, it is 
intermittent and that makes it difficult to fine.
If it happens again, you might try re-flowing the solder on the Front 
Panel board with a hot iron (750 degF) and add just a touch of solder - 
actually all you need is the flux.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/26/2013 1:04 PM, Vern%2C AA7VW%40comcast.net wrote:



The other day I was operating my K-2 at about 10 watts on 20 meters. After 
operating without troubles for a couple of years suddenly the meter display 
stopped showing any information, meaning there was no indication of power and 
no indication of even strong received signals. The rig itself was operating 
fine other than the meter. This didn't happen on any other band just 20 meters. 
I turned the rig off and back on several times with no change. Then while the 
rig was receiving on 20 meters the meter display came back on. It seems to be 
operating fine again however I thought I would ask for any advic e on what 
problem I might have. Thank you.




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[Elecraft] For Sale P3

2013-08-26 Thread Steve

I'm offering this to list members first:


P3. Assembled by me.
4 months old.
Perfect condition.
Elecraft receipt included.
$650.

Steve N4LQ
Private email please: n...@carolina.rr.com

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[Elecraft] K-2 observation

2013-08-26 Thread Vern%2C AA7VW%40comcast.net



The other day I was operating my K-2 at about 10 watts on 20 meters. After 
operating without troubles for a couple of years suddenly the meter display 
stopped showing any information, meaning there was no indication of power and 
no indication of even strong received signals. The rig itself was operating 
fine other than the meter. This didn't happen on any other band just 20 meters. 
I turned the rig off and back on several times with no change. Then while the 
rig was receiving on 20 meters the meter display came back on. It seems to be 
operating fine again however I thought I would ask for any advic e on what 
problem I might have. Thank you. 

Vern Lovelace 

aa...@comcast.net 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and whats next from Elecraft - my 2 cents

2013-08-26 Thread Bill
You mean you don’t already have these?
Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:38 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and whats next from Elecraft - my 2 cents

If this trend continues, not only will we need aluminum foil hats, but our 
computer display screens will need an aluminum foil covering as
well.:-)

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/22/2013 5:25 PM, Lee Buller wrote:
>
> The K3 is a fine radio and not much could be added to such a fine 
> piece of work.
>
>
> But, doing research on the internet I found that if you could degauss 
> the ion slip stream, ratchet up the electronobulator, and then put in 
> some plasticized radionic grease on the shafts …Elecraft could 
> increase the affection factor by 1278.3410.  Now…we’re talking.
>
> Of course, you would have to add a situational magna-inducer to the 
> final stage that would increase the efficiency to 178.6 percent while 
> reducing the total joules per second to a minimal and safe level.  
> This would make the FCC very happy because the Frozone Zone would be 
> infinitesimally small thus saving millions of lives.
>
> Coupled with the new radically opposed singularity, the K3 could take 
> an operator to the far reaches of propagation with resounding
> clarity and brightness.   Work could be done to super-charge the
> eletronobulator to increase the density of the induction Hickcock 
> field coils which would give you enormous amounts of gain both 
> transmit and receive throughout the spectrum, here and on worlds not yet 
> discovered.
>
> Now we know that the flux-capacity is old hat and should not even be 
> considered, but the new cranial cold fusion super flux capacitor would 
> fit well into the box and provide output that we’ve never seen as 
> amateur radio operators.  Then, there is the possibility that you 
> could run two cranial cold fusion super flux capacitors in parallel 
> without marginalizing the receiver but keeping the QSO rate well above 
> 1,000 per hour.
>
> I will continue to research new developments on the Internet to see 
> what new features could be incorporated in the K3 in the far distance 
> future.
>

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[Elecraft] Email address change

2013-08-26 Thread Alan Price

As of the 10th of next month my email address will be:
 
w1...@verizon.com
 
Have a great day.
 
73
Alan
W1HYV 
  
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