Re: [Elecraft] K3 temperatures?

2013-11-14 Thread Paul Kirley
Sam K5OAI sed:

  room temp 27.7 F

Unless the room is in an igloo, he probably meant 27.7C = 82F.  

Good temperature benchmarks to keep in mind are:
(a) 20C = 68F is normal room temperature; and
(b) 37C = 98.6F is normal body temperature.

Naturally, the K3 temperatures will be higher than the ambient
temperature, as the K3 dissipates part of the energy coming into it
from the PS.  

The K3's PA fans are designed to run unless the PA temperature is 36C
or less, so the PA temperature will tend toward 36C unless the room is
cool.  In a warm room, 36C is a pretty normal PA temperature reading.

In a warm room there *may* be nothing wrong with an FP temperature of
41C after much idling.  With a receive current drain of 1.5A, the K3 is
dissipating 20W continuously.  Of course, the PA fans don't directly
cool the front panel.

Have the Front Panel Temperature Sensor and PA Temperature Sensor
calibrations been performed as detailed in the K3 Owner's Manual?

73,
Paul W8TM

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[Elecraft] It's here ....

2013-11-14 Thread Ken G Kopp
A KXPA100, S/N 0029... a Field Test unit ... arrived today (Thursday).
(:-)))

Now, Rose can finalize her KX3 / KXPA100 carrying case design.

73!

Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 temperatures?

2013-11-14 Thread Sam Morgan

bingo op error  :-/  (why am I not surprised?)

room temp was 27.7 *C* not *F*
although it had actually been 20F outside earlier that morning

Also, thanks for the calibration tip for the PA  FP temps
I found they were both many degrees higher than actual room temp
sm

On 11/14/2013 10:56 AM, Paul Kirley wrote:

Sam K5OAI sed:


  room temp 27.7 F


Unless the room is in an igloo, he probably meant 27.7C = 82F.

Good temperature benchmarks to keep in mind are:
(a) 20C = 68F is normal room temperature; and
(b) 37C = 98.6F is normal body temperature.

Naturally, the K3 temperatures will be higher than the ambient
temperature, as the K3 dissipates part of the energy coming into it
from the PS.

The K3's PA fans are designed to run unless the PA temperature is 36C
or less, so the PA temperature will tend toward 36C unless the room is
cool.  In a warm room, 36C is a pretty normal PA temperature reading.

In a warm room there *may* be nothing wrong with an FP temperature of
41C after much idling.  With a receive current drain of 1.5A, the K3 is
dissipating 20W continuously.  Of course, the PA fans don't directly
cool the front panel.

Have the Front Panel Temperature Sensor and PA Temperature Sensor
calibrations been performed as detailed in the K3 Owner's Manual?

73,
Paul W8TM




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Re: [Elecraft] It's here ....

2013-11-14 Thread Bill W2BLC
Use 7 -9 oz. saddle grade leather - hand-tooled. Looks good and is 
nearly indestructible, while providing good protection to the device.


Bill W2BLC



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 / KPA500 / KAT500 Tuning

2013-11-14 Thread Jim Bennett
Thanks for all the helpful suggestions - the issue has been resolved, and the 
K-Line is now work as it should, per the manual. Had a bad board in the KAT500 
and was unable to run the KAT500 Utility program. And that meant I was not able 
to set it for optimizing for the KPA500. Put in the new board this afternoon 
and bingo - working fine!

73, Jim / W6JHB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Receive Ant Question

2013-11-14 Thread d...@lightstream.net
I use this as well, and it works very well -- and very silently. Excellent
product.

73, Dale
WA8SRA

 I use this on the RX antenna:

 http://www.arraysolutions.com/Products/as_rxfep.htm

 ...works great.

 -Greg NY6C

 On Nov 13, 2013, at 3:16 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Steve,

 The RX antenna input is protected by a Carrier Operated Relay. Other
 than that, there is no relay to disconnect the RX input.
 If your TX antenna is sufficiently separated from the RX antenna, there
 is no problem.
 How much is 'significant' is often a question, and the answer depends on
 your particular antenna installation.
 If you hear the COR relay operating, yours is not providing sufficient
 isolation and you should look into an external device (likely a relay
 will do) to disconnect the RX antenna during transmit.

 73,
 Don W3FPR




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Re: [Elecraft] It's here ....

2013-11-14 Thread george fritkin
I don't get it.  If field test units are now just hitting testers, what about 
the so called full production units date of Nov 13.2 days from nowand 
the statement from Elecraft we will keep you informed

George, W6GF



On Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:15 PM, Ken G Kopp kengk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
A KXPA100, S/N 0029... a Field Test unit ... arrived today (Thursday).
(:-)))

Now, Rose can finalize her KX3 / KXPA100 carrying case design.

73!

Ken Kopp - K0PP
elecraftcov...@gmail.com
http:tinyurl.com/7lm3m5
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Re: [Elecraft] It's here ....

2013-11-14 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi George,

The KXPA100 has been in field test for about two months by approximately 10 
testers, which includes a number of our staff members. Believe me, we've all 
been beating it up. The amps that went out most recently are actually 
production units, but we still refer to them as field-test because the firmware 
and operating manual are still being refined. 

The firmware will continue to be refined this weekend, which my wife isn't all 
that happy about. But we're down to really minor nits, based on feedback from 
testers.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


George wrote:

 I don't get it.  If field test units are now just hitting testers, what about 
 the so called full production units date of Nov 13.2 days from nowand 
 the statement from Elecraft we will keep you informed
 
 George, W6GF


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Re: [Elecraft] It's here ....

2013-11-14 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
We continue shipping to some field testers even after the production units ship. 
Ken is not one of the early FTs.


More info tomorrow. :-)

Eric
elecraft.com

On 11/14/2013 5:57 PM, george fritkin wrote:

I don't get it.  If field test units are now just hitting testers, what about the so 
called full production units date of Nov 13.2 days from nowand the statement from 
Elecraft we will keep you informed

George, W6GF



On Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:15 PM, Ken G Kopp kengk...@gmail.com wrote:
  
A KXPA100, S/N 0029... a Field Test unit ... arrived today (Thursday).

(:-)))

Now, Rose can finalize her KX3 / KXPA100 carrying case design.

73!

Ken Kopp - K0PP
elecraftcov...@gmail.com
http:tinyurl.com/7lm3m5
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 temperatures?

2013-11-14 Thread Sam Morgan

fyi .. after calibration
room temp = 80F
RX (dual) current drain 1.4-1.5A
PA temp = 91.4F  (no tx for last 2 hrs)
FP temp = 100F  (rx with dual rx for last 4 hrs)

On 11/14/2013 12:24 PM, Sam Morgan wrote:

bingo op error  :-/  (why am I not surprised?)

room temp was 27.7 *C* not *F*
although it had actually been 20F outside earlier that morning

Also, thanks for the calibration tip for the PA  FP temps
I found they were both many degrees higher than actual room temp
sm

On 11/14/2013 10:56 AM, Paul Kirley wrote:

snip

In a warm room there *may* be nothing wrong with an FP temperature of
41C after much idling.  With a receive current drain of 1.5A, the K3 is
dissipating 20W continuously.  Of course, the PA fans don't directly
cool the front panel.

Have the Front Panel Temperature Sensor and PA Temperature Sensor
calibrations been performed as detailed in the K3 Owner's Manual?

73,
Paul W8TM


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K5OAI
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[Elecraft] kat500 in bypass mode with a kpa500

2013-11-14 Thread bill . va3ol
will the interrupt feature work even when the tuner is in the bypass mode?

For example: at 3.550 I don't need a tuner, so I put it into bypass. I then
move  to 3.750 but forget to reset the tuner to auto. will the KPA500 be
protected with the key-line interrupt even when I am in bypass mode?

Thanks, I looked in the manuals but didn't find a definitive answer.

Bill, VA3OL
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Re: [Elecraft] kat500 in bypass mode with a kpa500

2013-11-14 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Bill:

The intent is that you can keep the tuner in auto or perhaps better manual.  
When you tune initially at 3550 and press ATU tune, the tune search quickly 
finds the ATU bypassed setting is appropriate because the SWR when L and C are 
bypassed is 1.2 or better.  It saves bypassed as the preferred tuner solution 
for that frequency,. Thereafter when you transmit on 3550 in Mode Auto or 
Manual, the ATU loads the bypassed tuner solution.

Further up the band the ATU finds that a little L and C helps, so when you 
first tune there, the ATU stores that solution for that frequency.  Without 
changing mode, the ATU can load the appropriate tuner setting, which may be 
bypassed on 3550.

In mode manual and auto the bypassed tuner solution is exactly the same relay 
settings as you get with mode bypass; all the inductors and capacitor relays 
are bypassed. There is no ATU loss advantage to being in mode bypass vs mode 
manual or auto and the bypassed tuner solution.

To answer you other question, in mode bypass the ATU won't retune.  If the SWR 
exceeds a configurable threshold, it can interrupt your amp.  That is the VSWR 
threshold for amp interrupt. I think we default it high, but you can set it to 
3 or 5 to 1.  Some amps are touchy about having the key line changed with RF 
flowing. 

But to avoid having to remember, consider letting the ATU tune at 3550.  The 
KAT500 Utility operate page will help you understand the tuner solution found.  
The bypass VSWR shown is the VSWR measured with the ATU bypassed, the SWR of 
your antenna without correction. The full search tune algorithm tries 
Bypassed as its very first try.

If you would prefer a different SWR threshold for the bypassed tune solution, 
it can be changed in Edit Configuration, VSWR threshold, bypass SWR.  I think I 
have mine at 1.5 or so. Some people like to see really low SWR, some prefer 
fewer changes as long as the amp stays happy. 

73 de Dick, K6KR


 On Nov 14, 2013, at 20:39, bill.va...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 will the interrupt feature work even when the tuner is in the bypass mode?
 
 For example: at 3.550 I don't need a tuner, so I put it into bypass. I then
 move  to 3.750 but forget to reset the tuner to auto. will the KPA500 be
 protected with the key-line interrupt even when I am in bypass mode?
 
 Thanks, I looked in the manuals but didn't find a definitive answer.
 
 Bill, VA3OL
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