Re: [Elecraft] ESSB

2014-11-18 Thread Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE)

It's even kHz, with a lower case k, gentlemen...
mHz (yes millihertz!), Hz, kHz, MHz, GHz, THz


Op 17-11-14 om 19:29 schreef Phil Wheeler:

I think you meant KHz, not MHz, David :-)

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[Elecraft] K3 audio artifacts

2014-11-18 Thread Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO
I know I might be beating a dead horse, but my recent experience in big, 
noisy pileups has made this problem stand out.


The t/r transitions in QSK and semi-QSK CW when there are nearby strong 
signals make a horrible racket -- enough to make me turn down the volume 
when sending, which negates the utility of QSK, of course.


Although the QSK is smooth and quiet on a quiet band, this is not the 
case when there are strong signals around. Here in 4X the EU signals can 
be super-strong, and in recent FT4TA pileups, the banging and crashing 
around my sidetone made operating sheer torture.


Yes, I am using QRQ mode (I listen to the DX on the subrx and the pileup 
on the main so as to make this possible) and New QSK. It doesn't matter.


The problem is as bad or worse in 'simplex' operation when numerous 
stations are calling a DX station on the same frequency.


I understand that this is caused by the limitations of the synthesizers. 
But I have discussed with Wayne and Lyle the possibility of changing the 
RX muting function, which would slow down the QSK but at least make it 
quiet. Fast QSK is worthless if I have to turn down the audio to protect 
my eardrums!


This would do a huge amount to increase the operating pleasure of 
serious CW operators. The feature could be optional so those who like to 
ragchew at high speed in QRM-free spots could turn it off.

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Rehovot, Israel
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Re: [Elecraft] ESSB

2014-11-18 Thread david Moes
Not sure if it was you and I cant even remember what band 40 I think, 
but during the contest I did run across what appeared to be a rather 
wide ssb signal typical of ESSB, rag chewing  The audio was great 
sounding  a little reminiscent of some the AM nets on 40m  I would 
think that it would have less punch or diluted as you well describe it   
but would be much better sounding for rag chew.I find that some ops  
in a contest narrow with EQ the bandwidth  of their signal to give them 
punch but in doing so they are louder but harder to understand  so I 
don't really see the advantage.


David Moes
VE3SD

On 11/17/2014 13:22, David Ahrendts wrote:

Experimented yesterday for a few minutes with ESSB (carefully avoiding weekend 
contesters), and it raised a fundamental question: As bandwidth is broadened, 
is effective radiated power diluted? In other words, will 500 watts with a 
2.6MHz signal be more effective (stronger, punchier, more DBs transmitted) than 
500 watts with a 4MHz ESSB signal?

David Ahrendts, KC0XT



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[Elecraft] how to run multiple antennas with KPA500

2014-11-18 Thread mtnest
Quick question……..

How to you guys, using the KPA500, run 2 antennas? The picture of this unit
doesn’t show any extra antenna ports….is there an option for that? 

I’m running a wire ant. for most HF bands and a separate yagi for 6M. I 
don’t really want to fabricate an external relay system.   

Any comments appreciated.

Tom
W4TMW

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Re: [Elecraft] Tuner

2014-11-18 Thread David Cole
Hi Phil,
I will be using a vertical, and I have decided to get the LDG...  Thanks
for the thought sir!!!
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On Mon, 2014-11-17 at 07:57 -0800, Phil Wheeler wrote:
 What antenna will you be using, David?
 
 Phil W7OX
 
 On 11/17/14 6:14 AM, David Cole wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I am considering the Elecraft KAT500K tuner for my station...  I run
  around 1K to 1.5K for SSB, and 500 to 750 for RTTY/Digital.
 
  Is this pushing the Elecraft too far?
 
  I am looking at an LDG AT-1000 PROII, and the Elecraft KAT500K right now
  as the two possible candidates.  Palstar would be nice, but too
  expensive.  Any other suggestions?
 
  Looking for general input and want your feelings if you have used both,
  or thoughts you might have on the two as a comparison point prior to
  purchase.
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Tuner

2014-11-18 Thread David Cole
Hi Jim,
Thanks for the info...  I will be getting an amp from Elecraft if they
ever come out with a 1K job, and buy the tuner then...  THANK YOU!
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On Mon, 2014-11-17 at 10:28 -0800, Jim Brown wrote:
 On Mon,11/17/2014 6:14 AM, David Cole wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I am considering the Elecraft KAT500K tuner for my station...  I run
  around 1K to 1.5K for SSB, and 500 to 750 for RTTY/Digital.
 
  Is this pushing the Elecraft too far?
 
 I'm using a pair in my SO2R station that I run legal limit. My antennas 
 are all fairly well matched. When the KAT500 doesn't like the load or 
 the power, it faults to protect itself.  If you're a reasonably 
 technical guy who won't expect the tuner to do things it cannot do, I 
 think you'll be very happy. I am.  As Don has said, it won't let you run 
 high power to a badly matched load.
 
 The KAT500 has three outputs, and the firmware remembers settings for 
 each on each band (and even multiple frequencies on a band). Like the 
 KPA500 (which I use when not contesting), all it takes is a dit or a 
 bang on the mic to change bands and recall settings. I use no band data 
 for either unit, and only PTT for the KPA.
 
 73, Jim K9YC
 
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Re: [Elecraft] how to run multiple antennas with KPA500

2014-11-18 Thread Dick Dievendorff

I currently have about five antennas connected to the output of my KPA500. I 
have a combination of KAT500 with its three antenna connectors, and one of 
those goes to a DX Engineering 2 x 8 antenna switch mounted at the base of my 
tower.

Dick, K6KR


 On Nov 18, 2014, at 06:12, mtn...@hartcom.net wrote:
 
 Quick question……..
 
 How to you guys, using the KPA500, run 2 antennas? The picture of this unit
 doesn’t show any extra antenna ports….is there an option for that? 
 
 I’m running a wire ant. for most HF bands and a separate yagi for 6M. I 
 don’t really want to fabricate an external relay system.   
 
 Any comments appreciated.
 
 Tom
 W4TMW
 
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Re: [Elecraft] how to run multiple antennas with KPA500

2014-11-18 Thread mcduffie
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 09:12:30 -0500, mtn...@hartcom.net wrote:

 How to you guys, using the KPA500, run 2 antennas? The picture of this unit
 doesn’t show any extra antenna ports….is there an option for that? 

Normally, the output of the amplifier would go to a tuner, like the KAT500, or
whatever flavor your prefer, and then to an antenna switch to select antennas.
Some people only have a couple of antennas and the 3 output connections on the
tuner would suffice, but most serious hams have more than that, plus a dummy
load, multiple radios, etc.  You also need to consider lightning protection,
depending on where in the country you live.

Personally, I have the radio going to the amplifier, which goes to the tuner.
From the tuner, I select either the dummy load or my active antenna, leaving 
one
output port on the tuner unused.  I have the dummy load on the default (power
off) port, so that the load is on the radio/amp if the power fails.  From the
active antenna port on the tuner, I go to a 5 port arc suppressed antenna
switch, selecting one of 4 antennas (I need more ports).  I left out the
multi-radio switching and other complications in this description.

Gary
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio artifacts

2014-11-18 Thread Hank Garretson
I agree with Vic. QSK is sometimes painful.

CW Exuberantly,

Hank, W6SX


On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 4:27 AM, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO 
k2vco@gmail.com wrote:

 I know I might be beating a dead horse, but my recent experience in big,
 noisy pileups has made this problem stand out.

 The t/r transitions in QSK and semi-QSK CW when there are nearby strong
 signals make a horrible racket -- enough to make me turn down the volume
 when sending, which negates the utility of QSK, of course.

 Although the QSK is smooth and quiet on a quiet band, this is not the case
 when there are strong signals around. Here in 4X the EU signals can be
 super-strong, and in recent FT4TA pileups, the banging and crashing around
 my sidetone made operating sheer torture.

 Yes, I am using QRQ mode (I listen to the DX on the subrx and the pileup
 on the main so as to make this possible) and New QSK. It doesn't matter.

 The problem is as bad or worse in 'simplex' operation when numerous
 stations are calling a DX station on the same frequency.

 I understand that this is caused by the limitations of the synthesizers.
 But I have discussed with Wayne and Lyle the possibility of changing the RX
 muting function, which would slow down the QSK but at least make it quiet.
 Fast QSK is worthless if I have to turn down the audio to protect my
 eardrums!

 This would do a huge amount to increase the operating pleasure of serious
 CW operators. The feature could be optional so those who like to ragchew at
 high speed in QRM-free spots could turn it off.
 --
 73,
 Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
 Rehovot, Israel
 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
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Re: [Elecraft] ESSB

2014-11-18 Thread Phil Wheeler
Actually, I still prefer kc, Peter (or was there a 
Mr. Cycle)?:-)


Phil W7OX

On 11/18/14 12:34 AM, Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) wrote:

It's even kHz, with a lower case k, gentlemen...
mHz (yes millihertz!), Hz, kHz, MHz, GHz, THz


Op 17-11-14 om 19:29 schreef Phil Wheeler:

I think you meant KHz, not MHz, David :-)


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Re: [Elecraft] ESSB

2014-11-18 Thread Richard Gillingham
If Hertz had been named Snodgrass, would we be talking Kilo-Snods? 

73

Gil, W1RG


End of thread, Eric, Promise…






From: Phil Wheeler
Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎November‎ ‎18‎, ‎2014 ‎11‎:‎29‎ ‎AM
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Actually, I still prefer kc, Peter (or was there a 
Mr. Cycle)?:-)

Phil W7OX

On 11/18/14 12:34 AM, Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) wrote:
 It's even kHz, with a lower case k, gentlemen...
 mHz (yes millihertz!), Hz, kHz, MHz, GHz, THz


 Op 17-11-14 om 19:29 schreef Phil Wheeler:
 I think you meant KHz, not MHz, David :-)

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[Elecraft] FS KX3 and KXPA100

2014-11-18 Thread WA7SPY
I am going through some major life changes and need to sell my KX3 and KXPA100 
station. Here is the list:

KX3 S/N 5729
KXAT3 Autotuner installed into KX3
KXPA100 s/n 0790
KXAT100 100 watt auto tuner installed into amp
KXBC3 Internal battery charger installed into KX3
KXFL3 Dual Passband roofing filtert installed into KX3
KX3 PCKT Accessory Cable Set
MH3 Microphone
USB Signalink with KX3 cable
Kooler black anodized installed on KX3
Sidekick panels and cover

Will entertain reasonable offers $2,100.00 plus shipping form 95817 Please 
email me off list if interested.

Thank you,
Glenn WA7SPY
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio artifacts

2014-11-18 Thread Merv Schweigert

Also agree,   everyone brags so much on the K3 QSK that I thought it was
just a problem here.  I have almost stopped using it because of the junk
created when keying with any signals nearby.

Merv K9FD/KH6


I agree with Vic. QSK is sometimes painful.

CW Exuberantly,

Hank, W6SX


On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 4:27 AM, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO 
k2vco@gmail.com wrote:


I know I might be beating a dead horse, but my recent experience in big,
noisy pileups has made this problem stand out.

The t/r transitions in QSK and semi-QSK CW when there are nearby strong
signals make a horrible racket -- enough to make me turn down the volume
when sending, which negates the utility of QSK, of course.

Although the QSK is smooth and quiet on a quiet band, this is not the case
when there are strong signals around. Here in 4X the EU signals can be
super-strong, and in recent FT4TA pileups, the banging and crashing around
my sidetone made operating sheer torture.

Yes, I am using QRQ mode (I listen to the DX on the subrx and the pileup
on the main so as to make this possible) and New QSK. It doesn't matter.

The problem is as bad or worse in 'simplex' operation when numerous
stations are calling a DX station on the same frequency.

I understand that this is caused by the limitations of the synthesizers.
But I have discussed with Wayne and Lyle the possibility of changing the RX
muting function, which would slow down the QSK but at least make it quiet.
Fast QSK is worthless if I have to turn down the audio to protect my
eardrums!

This would do a huge amount to increase the operating pleasure of serious
CW operators. The feature could be optional so those who like to ragchew at
high speed in QRM-free spots could turn it off.
--
73,
Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
Rehovot, Israel
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
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[Elecraft] PX3 Production Firmware Release 1.16

2014-11-18 Thread Paul Saffren N6HZ
PX3 revision 1.16 is now a production release and may now be downloaded 
directly using the PX3 Utility.  This release includes minor improvements
along with several bug fixes.  Be sure to upgrade your KX3 to the latest
revision 2.25 or above.
  

Release notes:

MCU 1.16 / 11/10/2014

* Adds transverter support; two new menu entries XV Gain and XV Invert allow
the user to change the gain and tuning inversion based on the transverter
band.
* Adds 2 more pixels between the top of the decoded text and the frame of
spectrum/waterfall area.
* Separate text sub-menu added.
* Text Enb turns on/off text decode display so it can be used with a
function key.
* AutoTxt menu allows text decode display to follow enables text decode
on/off based on KX3 mode. When enabled going to CW, or data modes
automatically turns on text decode in PX3, then switches off when exiting
back to USB/LSB/AM/FM etc.
* Text window displays “Text Display” when first text window is first
initialized, clears when Rx text is displayed, or after 4 second delay.

Links and instructions can be found at:

PX3 Firmware http://www.elecraft.com/PX3/PX3_software.htm  

KX3 Firmware http://www.elecraft.com/KX3/KX3_software.htm  





73,

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[Elecraft] FOR SALE KX-1

2014-11-18 Thread Tomy
Very nice working QRP KX-1 with 40 and 20 meters installed. 0.1-4 watts output.
Comes with the battery holder,the KXPD1 plug in keyer paddle kit, the KXAT1 
automatic antenna tuner,and all the manuals. Serial number 2247. Lots of QRP 
fun. $375.00 shipped CONUSA. Call Tomy 928-710-9231 Paypal OK. 73! Tomy KF7GC

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and hearing aids

2014-11-18 Thread Phil Kane
On 11/17/2014 3:36 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

 I've wondered if there's a way to feed audio directly into them from the
 K3.  I haven't found one yet, and I don't know if it would be better
 than the headphones.

I use a Phonak accessory called ComPilot that works with my Phonak
hearing devices.  It hangs around the neck - the loop is the antenna -
to Bluetooth connect to my cell phone on my belt. It also has a 3.5 mm
stereo jack that can bring audio directly to the hearing devices, again
by Bluetooth.  I'm sure that there are similar accessories for other
brands of hearing devices.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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[Elecraft] K2 Lo p on 10 12m when its cold outside.

2014-11-18 Thread EMD
I have had my K2 (7109) for 3 years now and I have noticed something about it
when it gets cold out.  Every year when the temperature falls I lose 10 and
12 meter capability.  I have read the posts on this forum with little
success in resolving this issue.  My K2 sits next to an upstairs window, I
have to admit I have been a little lax in getting the window properly
enclosed since I use a MFJ window adapter for my antenna.  This morning was
particularly cold and when I touched my radio it was very cold.  After
turning it on it was once again dead on 10 and 12m.  I decided to see if
warming it up would help.  I got my wife's hair dryer and blew some hot air
on it and after about 5 minutes 10 and 12m are back.  I had it on 10m dead
and then it came back as if I had just turned it on.  So this makes me
wonder if I have a bad solder joint somewhere in the tuner?  

Any help/ideas are always greatly appreciated.

Ed K3ENV





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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Lo p on 10 12m when its cold outside.

2014-11-18 Thread Don Wilhelm

Ed,

Yes, it could be in the tuner - set the tuner menu to CALP and see if it 
still happens.
CALP bypasses all the L/C elements, so if the problem is in the tuner 
L/C section, it will be bypassed.  If the problem were in the tuner 
wattmeter or thru path, all bands would be affected, so you already know 
that is not it.


More than likely, the problem is in the low pass filter, and yes I would 
expect a solder problem or an inadequately stripped and tinned toroid.  
If you have the KPA100, there is one LPF in the base K2 and yet another 
in the KPA100.


There is also the chance that the problem is in the bandpass filter.

You might try putting it in the refrigerator overnight to induce the 
failure -remove the top cover so you can direct the heated air at one 
particular spot - you my have to fabricate a narrow nozzle for the hair 
dryer.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/18/2014 1:22 PM, EMD wrote:

I have had my K2 (7109) for 3 years now and I have noticed something about it
when it gets cold out.  Every year when the temperature falls I lose 10 and
12 meter capability.  I have read the posts on this forum with little
success in resolving this issue.  My K2 sits next to an upstairs window, I
have to admit I have been a little lax in getting the window properly
enclosed since I use a MFJ window adapter for my antenna.  This morning was
particularly cold and when I touched my radio it was very cold.  After
turning it on it was once again dead on 10 and 12m.  I decided to see if
warming it up would help.  I got my wife's hair dryer and blew some hot air
on it and after about 5 minutes 10 and 12m are back.  I had it on 10m dead
and then it came back as if I had just turned it on.  So this makes me
wonder if I have a bad solder joint somewhere in the tuner?




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and hearing aids

2014-11-18 Thread DGB
I have been using the ComPilot for about 5-years. What a godsend. Never 
use the headphones at all except when I have to operate ssb, because my 
mic is on the headphones! ;-)


You can also use them on TV's, stereos, even on your PC, among many 
other devices.


73 Dwight NS9I

On 11/18/2014 12:02 PM, Phil Kane wrote:

On 11/17/2014 3:36 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:


I've wondered if there's a way to feed audio directly into them from the
K3.  I haven't found one yet, and I don't know if it would be better
than the headphones.

I use a Phonak accessory called ComPilot that works with my Phonak
hearing devices.  It hangs around the neck - the loop is the antenna -
to Bluetooth connect to my cell phone on my belt. It also has a 3.5 mm
stereo jack that can bring audio directly to the hearing devices, again
by Bluetooth.  I'm sure that there are similar accessories for other
brands of hearing devices.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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[Elecraft] K# and FSK

2014-11-18 Thread Terry Burkholder

Trying to get my new K3 set up to work FSK.

When I set DATA MD to FSK D the radio transmits OK but I get no audio 
out of the LINE OUT jack to see  received RTTY signals.


When I set DATA MD to DATA A  I get audio out to the LINE OUT jack and 
can receive fine but the radio will not transmit FSK.


I am sure I have missed something but can't figure out what it is.

Thanks for the help
73 Terry N4TB
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Re: [Elecraft] ESSB

2014-11-18 Thread Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE)
It wasn't about Mr. Hertz it was about the kilo that consistently is 
written by a lot of folks with an upper case K, what I tried to focus 
on. I suppose everyone knows why Hertz was given to the cycles per 
second Phil was referring to...:-)


Op 18-11-14 om 18:04 schreef Richard Gillingham:

If Hertz had been named Snodgrass, would we be talking Kilo-Snods? 

73

Gil, W1RG


End of thread, Eric, Promise…






From: Phil Wheeler
Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎November‎ ‎18‎, ‎2014 ‎11‎:‎29‎ ‎AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net





Actually, I still prefer kc, Peter (or was there a
Mr. Cycle)?:-)

Phil W7OX

On 11/18/14 12:34 AM, Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) wrote:

It's even kHz, with a lower case k, gentlemen...
mHz (yes millihertz!), Hz, kHz, MHz, GHz, THz


Op 17-11-14 om 19:29 schreef Phil Wheeler:

I think you meant KHz, not MHz, David :-)


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Re: [Elecraft] ESSB

2014-11-18 Thread Fred Jensen
So, why is that?  Most of the abbreviations for metric [i.e. SI] 
prefixes with positive exponents are upper-case ... M [mega], G [giga], 
T [tera], P [peta], X [exa], Z [zetta], Y [yotta].  *All* of the 
abbreviations for prefixes denoting negative exponents are lower-case 
... d [deci], c [centi], m [milli], u [micro, don't know how to get a mu 
in email], n [nano], p [pico], f [femto], a [atto], z [zepto], y 
[yocto].  When I bleed into the plasma machine each Fri, the blood 
center measures my total serum protein in somethings per deciliter


Only da [deca 10^1], h [hecto 10^2], and k [kilo 10^3] violate this 
pattern, which seems very un-metric.  One would think the prefix 
abbreviations would be paired letters, positive exponents get upper-case 
and negative exponents get lower-case.  How hard is that?


The prefixes themselves have some basis in real languages for smaller 
[in absolute value] exponents ... I've always figured milli came from 
a French word but since I speak almost no French, I'm not sure.  I 
struggled through 4 years of Latin in high school and I think I know the 
origins of centi, deca, deci, and several others.  Larger exponents in 
absolute value really appear made up -- I mean, yocto and Yotta?


So, I generally camp on 1406100 daHz looking for folks activating 
summits.  Please call me if you're on a pointy part of the Earth.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org

On 11/18/2014 3:19 PM, Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) wrote:

It wasn't about Mr. Hertz it was about the kilo that consistently is
written by a lot of folks with an upper case K, what I tried to focus
on. I suppose everyone knows why Hertz was given to the cycles per
second Phil was referring to...:-)


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Re: [Elecraft] ESSB

2014-11-18 Thread Walter Underwood
Lower case for kilo and hecto might have been chosen to avoid collisions with 
fundamental and derived units: K is Kelvin, H is Henries. Of course, micro 
collides with m (meters), but Mega was already taken.

Just a guess.

I’m hoping we never have to deal with a TT (teraTesla). Well, that might happen 
in a star.

wunder
K6WRU
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/

On Nov 18, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote:

 So, why is that?  Most of the abbreviations for metric [i.e. SI] prefixes 
 with positive exponents are upper-case ... M [mega], G [giga], T [tera], P 
 [peta], X [exa], Z [zetta], Y [yotta].  *All* of the abbreviations for 
 prefixes denoting negative exponents are lower-case ... d [deci], c [centi], 
 m [milli], u [micro, don't know how to get a mu in email], n [nano], p 
 [pico], f [femto], a [atto], z [zepto], y [yocto].  When I bleed into the 
 plasma machine each Fri, the blood center measures my total serum protein in 
 somethings per deciliter
 
 Only da [deca 10^1], h [hecto 10^2], and k [kilo 10^3] violate this pattern, 
 which seems very un-metric.  One would think the prefix abbreviations would 
 be paired letters, positive exponents get upper-case and negative exponents 
 get lower-case.  How hard is that?
 
 The prefixes themselves have some basis in real languages for smaller [in 
 absolute value] exponents ... I've always figured milli came from a French 
 word but since I speak almost no French, I'm not sure.  I struggled through 4 
 years of Latin in high school and I think I know the origins of centi, deca, 
 deci, and several others.  Larger exponents in absolute value really appear 
 made up -- I mean, yocto and Yotta?
 
 So, I generally camp on 1406100 daHz looking for folks activating summits.  
 Please call me if you're on a pointy part of the Earth.
 
 73,
 
 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
 - www.cqp.org
 
 On 11/18/2014 3:19 PM, Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) wrote:
 It wasn't about Mr. Hertz it was about the kilo that consistently is
 written by a lot of folks with an upper case K, what I tried to focus
 on. I suppose everyone knows why Hertz was given to the cycles per
 second Phil was referring to...:-)
 
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Re: [Elecraft] ESSB - SI Rag Chew (sic)

2014-11-18 Thread r j
*k*, kilo (prefix)
*K, kelvin* (degree name), (symbol) °K, before 1967 *degree Kelvin*,
(Kelvin - person's surname)

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 7:24 AM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote:

 So, why is that?  Most of the abbreviations for metric [i.e. SI] prefixes
 with positive exponents are upper-case ... M [mega], G [giga], T [tera], P
 [peta], X [exa], Z [zetta], Y [yotta].  *All* of the abbreviations for
 prefixes denoting negative exponents are lower-case ... d [deci], c
 [centi], m [milli], u [micro, don't know how to get a mu in email], n
 [nano], p [pico], f [femto], a [atto], z [zepto], y [yocto].  When I bleed
 into the plasma machine each Fri, the blood center measures my total serum
 protein in somethings per deciliter

 Only da [deca 10^1], h [hecto 10^2], and k [kilo 10^3] violate this
 pattern, which seems very un-metric.  One would think the prefix
 abbreviations would be paired letters, positive exponents get upper-case
 and negative exponents get lower-case.  How hard is that?

 The prefixes themselves have some basis in real languages for smaller [in
 absolute value] exponents ... I've always figured milli came from a
 French word but since I speak almost no French, I'm not sure.  I struggled
 through 4 years of Latin in high school and I think I know the origins of
 centi, deca, deci, and several others.  Larger exponents in absolute value
 really appear made up -- I mean, yocto and Yotta?

 So, I generally camp on 1406100 daHz looking for folks activating
 summits.  Please call me if you're on a pointy part of the Earth.

 73,

 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
 - www.cqp.org

 On 11/18/2014 3:19 PM, Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) wrote:

 It wasn't about Mr. Hertz it was about the kilo that consistently is
 written by a lot of folks with an upper case K, what I tried to focus
 on. I suppose everyone knows why Hertz was given to the cycles per
 second Phil was referring to...:-)


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[Elecraft] USB-to-Serial cable

2014-11-18 Thread Jim - KE8G
Hi All,
I received a couple of cable from Elecraft today, and I am not having any luck 
getting them to work.  I go into the device manager and it says a driver has 
not been installed.  I tell it to update the driver, it goes out to the 
Internet, but returns nothing.  Any ideas?

Right now, I am trying to get it to work with my Toshiba laptop running Windows 
8.

Thanks in advance,
Jim
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Re: [Elecraft] USB-to-Serial cable

2014-11-18 Thread Fred Townsend
Jim:
By cable I think you mean USB to RS232 cable. Install the driver that comes
with the converter. Don't expect windows to know about your driver.
73
Fred, AE6QL

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KE8G
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:51 PM
To: Elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] USB-to-Serial cable

Hi All,
I received a couple of cable from Elecraft today, and I am not having any
luck getting them to work.  I go into the device manager and it says a
driver has not been installed.  I tell it to update the driver, it goes out
to the Internet, but returns nothing.  Any ideas?

Right now, I am trying to get it to work with my Toshiba laptop running
Windows 8.

Thanks in advance,
Jim
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Re: [Elecraft] USB-to-Serial cable

2014-11-18 Thread Walter Underwood
Go to this page and scroll down to “KUSB” for instructions and downloads.

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

wunder
K6WRU
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/

On Nov 18, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Fred Townsend fptowns...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Jim:
 By cable I think you mean USB to RS232 cable. Install the driver that comes
 with the converter. Don't expect windows to know about your driver.
 73
 Fred, AE6QL
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim -
 KE8G
 Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:51 PM
 To: Elecraft
 Subject: [Elecraft] USB-to-Serial cable
 
 Hi All,
 I received a couple of cable from Elecraft today, and I am not having any
 luck getting them to work.  I go into the device manager and it says a
 driver has not been installed.  I tell it to update the driver, it goes out
 to the Internet, but returns nothing.  Any ideas?
 
 Right now, I am trying to get it to work with my Toshiba laptop running
 Windows 8.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Jim

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Re: [Elecraft] USB-to-Serial cable

2014-11-18 Thread Doug Person via Elecraft
I would recommend downloading the driver from Elecraft.  Then update the 
driver by choosing Browse my computer for driver software. Then, in 
the next step select the directory where the driver has been downloaded 
and unpacked.  That should do - although sometimes Windows can be 
annoying about needing the driver installed first before the adapter is 
plugged in.  If this doesn't work, post what results you get and I'm 
sure someone here will know the next work-around.


73  gl, Doug -- K0DXV

On 11/18/2014 5:50 PM, Jim - KE8G wrote:

Hi All,
I received a couple of cable from Elecraft today, and I am not having any luck 
getting them to work.  I go into the device manager and it says a driver has 
not been installed.  I tell it to update the driver, it goes out to the 
Internet, but returns nothing.  Any ideas?

Right now, I am trying to get it to work with my Toshiba laptop running Windows 
8.

Thanks in advance,
Jim
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Re: [Elecraft] USB-to-Serial cable

2014-11-18 Thread hsherriff
Jim
You should be able to get the drivers from the download section of the Elecraft 
site

Harlan 
NC3C


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k...@cox.net /divdivDate:11/18/2014  7:50 PM  (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: 
Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net /divdivSubject: [Elecraft] 
USB-to-Serial cable /divdiv
/divHi All,
I received a couple of cable from Elecraft today, and I am not having any luck 
getting them to work.  I go into the device manager and it says a driver has 
not been installed.  I tell it to update the driver, it goes out to the 
Internet, but returns nothing.  Any ideas?

Right now, I am trying to get it to work with my Toshiba laptop running Windows 
8.

Thanks in advance,
Jim
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Re: [Elecraft] USB-to-Serial cable

2014-11-18 Thread Don Wilhelm
Download the FTDI drivers fromhttp://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm 
and install them.
Yes, it surprises me that Windows 8 does not find and load them 
automatically, but then there have been some recent changes on the FTDI 
drivers from what I have read.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/18/2014 7:50 PM, Jim - KE8G wrote:

Hi All,
I received a couple of cable from Elecraft today, and I am not having any luck 
getting them to work.  I go into the device manager and it says a driver has 
not been installed.  I tell it to update the driver, it goes out to the 
Internet, but returns nothing.  Any ideas?

Right now, I am trying to get it to work with my Toshiba laptop running Windows 
8.




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Re: [Elecraft] USB-to-Serial cable

2014-11-18 Thread Jim - KE8G
Hi All,
Thanks for replying!

I had an old timers problem and forgot about going to the Elecraft web site 
for the needed driver!!!  I was able to download it and got things working.  
The big test will be tomorrow running the CWOps mini test with this new cable.  
I had been using a straight RS232 cable with my desktop that I built which has 
4 serial ports.  

Thanks again,
Jim - KE8G


 hsherriff hsherr...@reagan.com wrote: 
 Jim
You should be able to get the drivers from the download section of the Elecraft 
site

Harlan 
NC3C


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

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k...@cox.net /divdivDate:11/18/2014  7:50 PM  (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: 
Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net /divdivSubject: [Elecraft] 
USB-to-Serial cable /divdiv
/divHi All,
I received a couple of cable from Elecraft today, and I am not having any luck 
getting them to work.  I go into the device manager and it says a driver has 
not been installed.  I tell it to update the driver, it goes out to the 
Internet, but returns nothing.  Any ideas?

Right now, I am trying to get it to work with my Toshiba laptop running Windows 
8.

Thanks in advance,
Jim
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[Elecraft] Strange K3 KPA500 Issues fixed with a longer coax cable?

2014-11-18 Thread Jim Kvochick
I've stumbled into a strange problem.

I have 4 friends with similar K3 stations to my own; K3  KPA500 
KAT500.  The stations are powered with similar power sources.

One station sounds fine, works great.  The other 4 had strange issues that
manifested themselves as audio distortion when running the amplifier.  After
looking all over for RF and grounding issues, we swapped the coax cable from
the K3 to the amplifier, with a longer cable (about 6 to 7 feet - largely
because that was the only free cable we had handy).

Making the cable from the K3 to the amplifier longer eliminated the issue.
putting the cable back brought the problem back.  Making a new short cable
still left us with audio distortion.   The only thing that seemed to solve
the issue in all 4 cases was making the K3 to amplifier cable longer. 

This got me to investigate my own station.  It turns out that the cable I
used between the amplifier and the radio was about 6 feet long.  Swapping
this cable for a shorter length brought about audio distortion symptoms.

Does anyone have any thoughts about this?

Cheers

Jim K8JK

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[Elecraft] KX3 Voice Monitor (MON)

2014-11-18 Thread David Ahrendts
Newby KX3 question: how accurate a representation of voice and transmission 
characteristics does the Voice Monitor provide on SSB (with accurate 
headphones, not the KX3 speaker)? Is it approximate, or actual? 

David Ahrendts, KC0XT, LA
KX3, KXPA500, PX3



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW conector Problem

2014-11-18 Thread david Moes
This happened to me  not on a K3 but in a headphone conector on a mixing 
board.but the same connectors. when the tip came off the 
connector the tip  was attached to a  pin that extended trough the ring 
a sleve.  so what was left inside the mixer was not so deep down the 
hole.with a flashlight and very fine long needle nose pliers I was 
able to grab it and pull it out.  no damage done.


David Moes
President: Peterborough Amateur Radio Club.
dm...@nexicom.net
VE3DVY,  VE3SD

On 11/17/2014 16:56, Oli, DL1OLI wrote:

Hello,
a friend of mine, also a Ham, bought his new K3 some weeks ago. He is still 
leaning all the functions, but has a Problem.

He lost the tip of then 1/4 connector of his More-key in the K3 rear connector, 
After removing of the 1/4 (6.3mm) plug  from his K3 he noticed that the tip is 
missing and still in the Connector in the K3.

Has anyone a good idea, how to remove this without destroying the connector?

vy 73
Oli
DL1OLI/AJ4UR
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and hearing aids

2014-11-18 Thread Phil Wheeler

One thing. The ComPilot manual includes:

Persons using medical devices such as pacemakers 
are not permitted to use this device.


Perhaps they're overly conservative, but worth a 
discussion with cardiologist first.


Likely is conservative. I've had a pacemaker for 7 
years and my KPA500 at full power seems to have no 
effect on it -- nor on my Phonak hearing aid. 
Using a 5 W HT also has no effect.


Phil W7OX

On 11/18/14 12:24 PM, DGB wrote:
I have been using the ComPilot for about 
5-years. What a godsend. Never use the 
headphones at all except when I have to operate 
ssb, because my mic is on the headphones! ;-)


You can also use them on TV's, stereos, even on 
your PC, among many other devices.


73 Dwight NS9I

On 11/18/2014 12:02 PM, Phil Kane wrote:

On 11/17/2014 3:36 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

I've wondered if there's a way to feed audio 
directly into them from the
K3.  I haven't found one yet, and I don't know 
if it would be better

than the headphones.
I use a Phonak accessory called ComPilot that 
works with my Phonak
hearing devices.  It hangs around the neck - 
the loop is the antenna -
to Bluetooth connect to my cell phone on my 
belt. It also has a 3.5 mm
stereo jack that can bring audio directly to 
the hearing devices, again
by Bluetooth.  I'm sure that there are similar 
accessories for other

brands of hearing devices.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon


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Re: [Elecraft] ESSB - SI Rag Chew (sic)

2014-11-18 Thread norrislawfirm2
To pick nits, it isn't degrees Kelvin it's just Kelvin or Kelvins.  I don't 
know why.

73

Eric WD6DBM


Sent on a Heathkit HW-16 at nearly 400 Kelvin.

div Original message /divdivFrom: r j 
rjinsp...@gmail.com /divdivDate:11/18/2014  4:46 PM  (GMT-08:00) 
/divdivTo: elecraft@mailman.qth.net /divdivSubject: Re: [Elecraft] ESSB 
- SI Rag Chew (sic) /divdiv
/div*k*, kilo (prefix)
*K, kelvin* (degree name), (symbol) °K, before 1967 *degree Kelvin*,
(Kelvin - person's surname)

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 7:24 AM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote:

 So, why is that?  Most of the abbreviations for metric [i.e. SI] prefixes
 with positive exponents are upper-case ... M [mega], G [giga], T [tera], P
 [peta], X [exa], Z [zetta], Y [yotta].  *All* of the abbreviations for
 prefixes denoting negative exponents are lower-case ... d [deci], c
 [centi], m [milli], u [micro, don't know how to get a mu in email], n
 [nano], p [pico], f [femto], a [atto], z [zepto], y [yocto].  When I bleed
 into the plasma machine each Fri, the blood center measures my total serum
 protein in somethings per deciliter

 Only da [deca 10^1], h [hecto 10^2], and k [kilo 10^3] violate this
 pattern, which seems very un-metric.  One would think the prefix
 abbreviations would be paired letters, positive exponents get upper-case
 and negative exponents get lower-case.  How hard is that?

 The prefixes themselves have some basis in real languages for smaller [in
 absolute value] exponents ... I've always figured milli came from a
 French word but since I speak almost no French, I'm not sure.  I struggled
 through 4 years of Latin in high school and I think I know the origins of
 centi, deca, deci, and several others.  Larger exponents in absolute value
 really appear made up -- I mean, yocto and Yotta?

 So, I generally camp on 1406100 daHz looking for folks activating
 summits.  Please call me if you're on a pointy part of the Earth.

 73,

 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
 - www.cqp.org

 On 11/18/2014 3:19 PM, Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) wrote:

 It wasn't about Mr. Hertz it was about the kilo that consistently is
 written by a lot of folks with an upper case K, what I tried to focus
 on. I suppose everyone knows why Hertz was given to the cycles per
 second Phil was referring to...:-)


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Re: [Elecraft] ESSB - SI Rag Chew (sic)

2014-11-18 Thread Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE)
Well Eric, Kelvin is an absolute number, so there is no less than zero 
whereas Celsius is a relative number. That's why.



Op 19-11-14 om 08:16 schreef norrislawfirm2:

To pick nits, it isn't degrees Kelvin it's just Kelvin or Kelvins.  I don't 
know why.

73

Eric WD6DBM



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