Re: [Elecraft] Ham enthusiast arrested

[web.de]

Hello,

Jacobs Ladder? Great! I'll have it!
Where can I order it?

This will help me in daily work!

73 Christian

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

> Am 02.04.2015 um 00:24 schrieb drewko :
> 
> The retro styling of the K6 is really something--  those massive knife
> switches on the front panel! 
> 
> Can't wait to see the matching 5 KW dummy load/Jacobs Ladder...
> 
> 73,
> Drew
> AF2Z
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 13:54:48 -0700, you wrote:
>> 
>> Super secret documents now reveal that Elecraft intends to skip the K4 and 
>> K5 and move straight to the K6. “Twice as big as the K3 with twice the 
>> knobs, and really big screws!” the design team said in a draft announcement 
>> scheduled for release in a drought-stricken central California town on April 
>> 18th. “Huge…really huge,” one observer with inside knowledge said while 
>> emphasizing the K6 will be water-cooled and peddle self-powered with enough 
>> reserve to power several other devices simultaneously including an optional 
>> ham-equipped self-driving autonomous Tesla specially designed with 
>> Levitation Mode for those occasions when you just need a 500 foot legal 
>> limit perch to break through that pile-up with Asiatic Russia. The same 
>> source produced patent applications from Apple to include an entire remote 
>> system for the K6 on the soon-to-be-released Apple Watch. “Imagine,” he 
>> said, “working DX from your wrist!” 
>> 
>> 
> 
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[Elecraft] ELECRAFT K3/0 FOR SALE

[Paul DeFelice]

FOR SALE: K3/0 Remote control head (NOT THE K3/0 MINI). This box is the same
size as the K3. Includes RRK0CBL cable set. Excellent condition - nonsmoking
environment. $500.00 Plus Shipping (I have the original shipping carton with
foam inserts)   Please contact me off the reflector:k9nu at mchsi dot
com.

73,

Paul K9NU

 

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[Elecraft] K2 plus KPA/KAT for sale.

[Chris Kimball]

My K2 station, a K2 (s/n 4913) plus  a KPA/KAT pair in a separate chassis are
up for sale.  Both in fine current working condition.  Price: $1800.  

Photos are available at  http://www.cvkimball.com/QRP/K2/K2.html
  .



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Re: [Elecraft] Ham enthusiast arrested

[Fred Townsend]

Yes Christian. Because of the roofing filters it was necessary to include a 
Jacobs Ladder for maintenance.
Also, the dual peddles (as opposed to paddles) double up for ambidextrous QLF 
CW.

73, Fred, AE6QL

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Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 3:33 AM
To: drewko
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ham enthusiast arrested

Hello,

Jacobs Ladder? Great! I'll have it!
Where can I order it?

This will help me in daily work!

73 Christian

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

> Am 02.04.2015 um 00:24 schrieb drewko :
> 
> The retro styling of the K6 is really something--  those massive knife 
> switches on the front panel!
> 
> Can't wait to see the matching 5 KW dummy load/Jacobs Ladder...
> 
> 73,
> Drew
> AF2Z
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 13:54:48 -0700, you wrote:
>> 
>> Super secret documents now reveal that Elecraft intends to skip the K4 and 
>> K5 and move straight to the K6. “Twice as big as the K3 with twice the 
>> knobs, and really big screws!” the design team said in a draft announcement 
>> scheduled for release in a drought-stricken central California town on April 
>> 18th. “Huge…really huge,” one observer with inside knowledge said while 
>> emphasizing the K6 will be water-cooled and peddle self-powered with enough 
>> reserve to power several other devices simultaneously including an optional 
>> ham-equipped self-driving autonomous Tesla specially designed with 
>> Levitation Mode for those occasions when you just need a 500 foot legal 
>> limit perch to break through that pile-up with Asiatic Russia. The same 
>> source produced patent applications from Apple to include an entire remote 
>> system for the K6 on the soon-to-be-released Apple Watch. “Imagine,” he 
>> said, “working DX from your wrist!” 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Rig release history

[Phil Wheeler]

Hopefully that definition of "arrival" has become 
obsolete, Dick! But let's see, I wonder what the 
total weight of:


 * K3/100 with options
 * P3
 * KPA500
 * KAT500
 * KX3
 * PX3

(and I guess we could add in power supply for 
KX3/PX3 and K3/P3, too) would be? :-)



73, Phil W7OX

On 4/1/15 10:16 PM, Richard Solomon wrote:
I'll know Elecraft has arrived when they bring 
out a radio that occupies half the desk

and weighs 85# !!

73, Dick, W1KSZ


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Re: [Elecraft] Rig release history

[Wayne Burdick]

Not :)

W


On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:16 PM, Richard Solomon  wrote:

> I'll know Elecraft has arrived when they bring out a radio that occupies half 
> the desk
> and weighs 85# !!
> 
> 73, Dick, W1KSZ



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Re: [Elecraft] Is there a K4 on the horizon? Car radio

[Paul Gordon N6LL]

The user interface of VHF mobiles does need to be improved "back to the 
1940s" for safety so that basic functions are completely tactile - 
without need to look at the radio. My Metrum II was mounted under the 
driver's seat and could be fully controlled without taking my eyes off 
the road. This would also be popular with blind operators, perhaps as an 
accessory for their autonomous vehicle. 


73 Paul N6LL

On 3/31/2015 5:18 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
If Elecraft makes a car radio, and I would definitely interested in 
replacing my IC-706, I hope it follows the lead of car entertainment 
radios going back to the 1940s and has single button tuning for at 
least 5 presets. If it is like the more modern radios, it may have 
both push and hold tuning for each button. A serious attack on driver 
distraction with ham mobile radios would be a very valuable feature.


Another nice feature for a mobile rig is automatic tuning for 
screwdriver antennas.


73 Bill AE6JV 


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[Elecraft] Is there a K4 on the horizon? Car radio

[Dick Dickinson]

For mobile use, I like a head that is mountable on the steering wheel
column.  My current setup allows me to view the display with minimal eye
diversion.  Controls can be accessed through the open upper portion of the
steering wheel.  

 

 

Dick - KA5KKT

 



 

The user interface of VHF mobiles does need to be improved "back to the 

1940s" for safety so that basic functions are completely tactile - 

without need to look at the radio. My Metrum II was mounted under the 

driver's seat and could be fully controlled without taking my eyes off 

the road. This would also be popular with blind operators, perhaps as an 

accessory for their autonomous vehicle. 

 

73 Paul N6LL

 

On 3/31/2015 5:18 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:

> If Elecraft makes a car radio, and I would definitely interested in 

> replacing my IC-706, I hope it follows the lead of car entertainment 

> radios going back to the 1940s and has single button tuning for at 

> least 5 presets. If it is like the more modern radios, it may have 

> both push and hold tuning for each button. A serious attack on driver 

> distraction with ham mobile radios would be a very valuable feature.

> 

> Another nice feature for a mobile rig is automatic tuning for 

> screwdriver antennas.

> 

> 73 Bill AE6JV 

 

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[Elecraft] April 1st !!

[Richard Jubinville]

I must admit, the submissions for April 1st were all excellent, it only goes to 
show the fantastic creativity of the authors. I am impressed ! However, at age 
76, it doesn’t take too much to impress me any longer LOL Great job guys !!!

73 / Dick

W1REJ  (from still buried under 2 feet of snow New England)
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Re: [Elecraft] Is there a K4 on the horizon? Car radio

[Kenneth Talbott]

My FT-857 control head is mounted to top of sun visor.  Folded up it is out
of sight.  Folded down it is in field of view of the highway.  Perhaps 15
degree above.  I can rest left elbow on window and operate by tactile
feedback.

BTW, I worked on diagnostics for GM's first in-dash touchscreen controller
for radio and HVAC.  This was the GM30 body ('86 Riviera).  It was abruptly
withdrawn from sale.  We were told the decision was made because the lack of
tactile feedback and parallax viewing issues were considered too dangerous
(driver was forced to lean over and LOOK AT the screen).   This was all part
of GM's first generation computer assisted diagnostic tool, CAMS (a hardened
PC with touchscreen in roll-around cabinet with hundreds of diagnostic
cables).  This ALDL interfaced tool was replaced by OBD-II.
Ken - ke4rg

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dick
Dickinson
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 1:00 PM
To: 'Elecraft Reflector '
Subject: [Elecraft] Is there a K4 on the horizon? Car radio

For mobile use, I like a head that is mountable on the steering wheel
column.  My current setup allows me to view the display with minimal eye
diversion.  Controls can be accessed through the open upper portion of the
steering wheel.  

 

 

Dick - KA5KKT

 



 

The user interface of VHF mobiles does need to be improved "back to the 

1940s" for safety so that basic functions are completely tactile - 

without need to look at the radio. My Metrum II was mounted under the 

driver's seat and could be fully controlled without taking my eyes off 

the road. This would also be popular with blind operators, perhaps as an 

accessory for their autonomous vehicle. 

 

73 Paul N6LL

 

On 3/31/2015 5:18 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:

> If Elecraft makes a car radio, and I would definitely interested in

> replacing my IC-706, I hope it follows the lead of car entertainment

> radios going back to the 1940s and has single button tuning for at

> least 5 presets. If it is like the more modern radios, it may have

> both push and hold tuning for each button. A serious attack on driver

> distraction with ham mobile radios would be a very valuable feature.

> 

> Another nice feature for a mobile rig is automatic tuning for

> screwdriver antennas.

> 

> 73 Bill AE6JV

 

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[Elecraft] April 1st belated

[Richard Jubinville]

How did I ever forget this ??  I was able to run my OCF Dipole under the High 
Voltage power lines behind my house, which run from Niagara Falls station to 
Millbury, Massachusetts. The RF coupled to the 6 power lines and now I have the 
longest Dipole antenna in the world according to Guinness Book of Records!! I 
was actually able to contact a Ham on Alpha Centauri !!! And this is a DX 
record .

73 / Dick

W1REJ
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Re: [Elecraft] Is there a K4 on the horizon? Car radio

[Jim Brown]

On Thu,4/2/2015 10:19 AM, Kenneth Talbott wrote:

My FT-857 control head is mounted to top of sun visor.


Elecraft already makes a superb mobile rig. The KX3 with the 100W amp 
and tuner is perfect for mobile use. One of my old buddies, K9IKZ, 
recently put one into his Audi. The KX3 fit quite nicely into a space in 
the dash.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] April 1st belated

[Phil Hystad]

Dick,

That must also be a world-record for the longest QSO ever.  Alpha Centauri is 
4.37 light-years distant from Earth so a round trip would be approximately 8.74 
years just to establish a firm contact.  Technically, if you guys exchanged the 
typical signal report, name, qth, and other information you should still be 
working on waiting for his name.  Then, you could have done that in your CQ 
call itself and saved some time.

73, phil, K7PEH


> On Apr 2, 2015, at 10:28 AM, Richard Jubinville  wrote:
> 
> How did I ever forget this ??  I was able to run my OCF Dipole under the High 
> Voltage power lines behind my house, which run from Niagara Falls station to 
> Millbury, Massachusetts. The RF coupled to the 6 power lines and now I have 
> the longest Dipole antenna in the world according to Guinness Book of 
> Records!! I was actually able to contact a Ham on Alpha Centauri !!! And this 
> is a DX record .
> 
> 73 / Dick
> 
> W1REJ
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Re: [Elecraft] April 1st belated

[David Ahrendts]

The soon to be announced K6 (see the April 1st posts) will routinely manage 
HDCWH mode (Hyper-Drive Cosmic Worm Hole mode), a perfect match for the W1REJ 
OCF High Voltage power line Dipole. Oh, and it’s in the new 10kHZ super ESSB 
mode.


> On Apr 2, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Phil Hystad  wrote:
> 
> Dick,
> 
> That must also be a world-record for the longest QSO ever.  Alpha Centauri is 
> 4.37 light-years distant from Earth so a round trip would be approximately 
> 8.74 years just to establish a firm contact.  Technically, if you guys 
> exchanged the typical signal report, name, qth, and other information you 
> should still be working on waiting for his name.  Then, you could have done 
> that in your CQ call itself and saved some time.
> 
> 73, phil, K7PEH
> 
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2015, at 10:28 AM, Richard Jubinville > > wrote:
>> 
>> How did I ever forget this ??  I was able to run my OCF Dipole under the 
>> High Voltage power lines behind my house, which run from Niagara Falls 
>> station to Millbury, Massachusetts. The RF coupled to the 6 power lines and 
>> now I have the longest Dipole antenna in the world according to Guinness 
>> Book of Records!! I was actually able to contact a Ham on Alpha Centauri !!! 
>> And this is a DX record .
>> 
>> 73 / Dick
>> 
>> W1REJ
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[Elecraft] Dummy loads for sale

[Carl Yaffey]

Just found these at the SK estate:

Two Ten-Tec model 239 300w dummy loads $20 each
One Elecraft 2003 circuit board 20w dummy load. $15.

Carl Yaffey  K8NU
Recording studio.
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614 268 6353, Columbus OH
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http://www.grassahol.com








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[Elecraft] K4 Already!

[Hunsdon Cary III]

A K4?  With all the upgrades Elecraft has supplied and the options I've added, 
there's no doubt in my mind that my K3-100, serial #3448, is now a K4. I sold 
my first K3, #0178, and that was the worst radio decision I've ever made - w/o 
doubt!  If I still had it, it'd be the equal of my #3448 - no question!
Thanks, Elecraft, my K3 just keeps getting better!
73 & keep the improvements coming!
H. Cary, K4TM
Lynchburg VA
K3-100 #3448
KPA-500 #698
P3 Panadaptor, too, but can't recall serial #!

Sent from Clovelly Cottage, home of amateur radio station K4TM and the most 
creative Sue Cary, with my iPhone 6 in Lynchburg VA - a great place to live, 
work, play, and retire!
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[Elecraft] Ten-tec dummy loads sold. Elecraft still available.

[Carl Yaffey]

Ten-tec dummy loads sold. Elecraft still available.
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Re: [Elecraft] April 1st belated

[Charlie T, K3ICH]

Tars Tarkas is quite active on Barsoom.  Tune around 1296 MHz and point your 
array at the orange dot that is currently on the arc about half way between 
the Sun and Venus


73, Charlie k3ICH


- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Jubinville" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 1:28 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] April 1st belated


How did I ever forget this ??  I was able to run my OCF Dipole under the 
High Voltage power lines behind my house, which run from Niagara Falls 
station to Millbury, Massachusetts. The RF coupled to the 6 power lines 
and now I have the longest Dipole antenna in the world according to 
Guinness Book of Records!! I was actually able to contact a Ham on Alpha 
Centauri !!! And this is a DX record .


73 / Dick

W1REJ
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[Elecraft] P3 Beta Firmware

[Jim KS7S]

I can't seem to find the latest beta firmware for the P3 - I downloaded the
1.21/1.34 version (NB on SVGA) but didn't download the 1.22/1.35 version
when it came out.  I don't see it in the P3/beta firmware directory now -
what happened or what am I doing wrong?

 

Jim KS7S

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Beta Firmware

[Rick WA6NHC]

You aren't doing anything wrong.  But, per Howard at Elecraft, it was so 
bug ridden that it and the .33 version were removed from public sight.  
Use the current version, you'll be fine until they have the staff time 
to put into the P3-ware.


Once I went back to the 1.29, all was well with the SVGA card.

Rick nhc


On 4/2/2015 4:20 PM, Jim KS7S wrote:

I can't seem to find the latest beta firmware for the P3 - I downloaded the
1.21/1.34 version (NB on SVGA) but didn't download the 1.22/1.35 version
when it came out.  I don't see it in the P3/beta firmware directory now -
what happened or what am I doing wrong?

  


Jim KS7S


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[Elecraft] KX3 6 meter repeater memory channel programming

[John Watkins]

All, I am missing something or having a senior moment.  I have tried the memory 
editor to put in a -1.7 mhz offset 6 meter repeaterno luck.  Only get -1 
mhz offset.
Must be missing something or assuming something.  Anyone been here before and 
know the best way to store this in a KX3 memory channel?
Thanks, John N0EVH
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[Elecraft] All dummy loads sold

[Carl Yaffey]

Thanks, folks. More stuff coming soon.

Carl Yaffey  K8NU
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 6 meter repeater memory channel programming

[Matt Zilmer]

Hi John,

I had a similar issue with an odd High-VHF split.  For odd splits, we
have to use the KX3 itself.  The utility allows only standard tx/rx
splits to be entered..

1. Enter the transmit freq into VFO A;
2. Tap the A/B switch;
3. Enter the receive freq into VFO A;
4. Tap the A/B switch;
5. Hold SPLIT to allow different tx and rx frequencies.

When this is done properly, VFO B will show your tx frequency, and VFO
shows your rx frequency.

If you'd like to you can memorize the channel.  I would.  Set the PL
frequency first if the repeater needs it.

73!

matt
W6NIA

On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 01:12:11 + (UTC), you wrote:

>All, I am missing something or having a senior moment.  I have tried the 
>memory editor to put in a -1.7 mhz offset 6 meter repeaterno luck.  Only 
>get -1 mhz offset.
>Must be missing something or assuming something.  Anyone been here before and 
>know the best way to store this in a KX3 memory channel?
>Thanks, John N0EVH
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Re: [Elecraft] Visalia

[Jim Lowman]

And I'll be at the Contest Academy, Jim.
You aren't presenting this time?

I went to a similar contest academy at SeaPac last June.

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 3/31/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Brown wrote:


Visalia is also a contester hangout. NCCC does a Contest Academy on 
Friday.


73, Jim K9YC


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[Elecraft] Question K3 ALC w/SPE Expert 1.3K-FA amp

[AB2E Darrell]

Hello all,
   I am the proud new owner of a new K3. I am also the proud new owner of 
an SPE Expert 1.3K-FA solid state amp, and I have a question for the group 
regarding interfacing the K3 to the amp.

My current setup is using my Icom 756 Pro III with the SPE Expert 1.3K-FA. The 
recommended setup for Icom was to connect both the Relay and ALC cables between 
the rig and amp. This is because the software in the amp automatically reduces 
the power in the rig to the best output level for the amp (on the amp LOW=500W 
out= 3W drive, MID= 1000W out= 6W drive, HIGH = 1500W out = 9W drive). It works 
flawlessly. Actually, I could leave the power on the Pro III untouched, and the 
amp reduces the power accordingly.

My question for the group is, is there a way to allow the K3's output to be 
controlled by the amp? I see the note on p27 about not using an amp to control 
the K3's output, but wonder if there is a safe way to do it. For instance, 
could the K3 be set to say 15W out on all bands via the menu, then allow the 
amp to control the output via ALC for optimum drive? 

Any info and comments appreciated. 
73 Darrell AB2E

  
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Re: [Elecraft] Question K3 ALC w/SPE Expert 1.3K-FA amp

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

This is because the software in the amp automatically reduces the
power in the rig to the best output level for the amp (on the amp
LOW=500W out= 3W drive, MID= 1000W out= 6W drive, HIGH = 1500W out =
9W drive). It works flawlessly. Actually, I could leave the power on
the Pro III untouched, and the amp reduces the power accordingly.


Is SPE shipping amplifiers that violate type acceptance or did you
modify that amplifier?  Any commercial amplifier sold in the US can
have a maximum gain of 15 dB.  Your Expert 1.3K-FA shows 22 dB -
nearly 6 dB above the limit.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-04-02 10:34 PM, AB2E Darrell wrote:

Hello all,
I am the proud new owner of a new K3. I am also the proud new owner of 
an SPE Expert 1.3K-FA solid state amp, and I have a question for the group 
regarding interfacing the K3 to the amp.

My current setup is using my Icom 756 Pro III with the SPE Expert 1.3K-FA. The 
recommended setup for Icom was to connect both the Relay and ALC cables between 
the rig and amp. This is because the software in the amp automatically reduces 
the power in the rig to the best output level for the amp (on the amp LOW=500W 
out= 3W drive, MID= 1000W out= 6W drive, HIGH = 1500W out = 9W drive). It works 
flawlessly. Actually, I could leave the power on the Pro III untouched, and the 
amp reduces the power accordingly.

My question for the group is, is there a way to allow the K3's output to be 
controlled by the amp? I see the note on p27 about not using an amp to control 
the K3's output, but wonder if there is a safe way to do it. For instance, 
could the K3 be set to say 15W out on all bands via the menu, then allow the 
amp to control the output via ALC for optimum drive?

Any info and comments appreciated.
73 Darrell AB2E


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Re: [Elecraft] Question K3 ALC w/SPE Expert 1.3K-FA amp

[Wayne Burdick]

Hi Darrell,

Nearly all ALC systems cause splatter, and some are horrible. Letting the amp 
control a radio's drive level is pretty much worst-case. This just about 
guarantees clicky, distorted ALC response as well as poorly shaped CW keying.

Instead, we recommend adjusting the K3's drive level per-band (see CONFIG:PWR 
SET) to just reach the desired power level at the amp's output. This way, 
little if any ALC is used. The per-band levels are stored at the K3 and 
recalled as you change bands.

The K3 has its own very clean internal, slow ALC to compensate for minor gain 
variations. We also apply ALC and compression within the DSP, at the audio 
stages--again with intent to minimize splatter. All gain-controlled stages are 
pre-crystal filter, ensuring that any dynamics are entirely band-limited before 
they ever get to an output stage.

This goes counter to instructions for some amps. They assume you are not 
capable of properly adjusting the drive to compensate for per-band variations, 
so they instruct you to crank it to the max at the rig. But the proof can be 
heard on the air. A K3 properly adjusted per-band will be exceptionally clean.

73,
Wayne
N6KR




On Apr 2, 2015, at 7:34 PM, AB2E Darrell  wrote:

> Hello all,
>   I am the proud new owner of a new K3. I am also the proud new owner of 
> an SPE Expert 1.3K-FA solid state amp, and I have a question for the group 
> regarding interfacing the K3 to the amp.
> 
> My current setup is using my Icom 756 Pro III with the SPE Expert 1.3K-FA. 
> The recommended setup for Icom was to connect both the Relay and ALC cables 
> between the rig and amp. This is because the software in the amp 
> automatically reduces the power in the rig to the best output level for the 
> amp (on the amp LOW=500W out= 3W drive, MID= 1000W out= 6W drive, HIGH = 
> 1500W out = 9W drive). It works flawlessly. Actually, I could leave the power 
> on the Pro III untouched, and the amp reduces the power accordingly.
> 
> My question for the group is, is there a way to allow the K3's output to be 
> controlled by the amp? I see the note on p27 about not using an amp to 
> control the K3's output, but wonder if there is a safe way to do it. For 
> instance, could the K3 be set to say 15W out on all bands via the menu, then 
> allow the amp to control the output via ALC for optimum drive? 
> 
> Any info and comments appreciated. 
> 73 Darrell AB2E
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Question K3 ALC w/SPE Expert 1.3K-FA amp

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

Do not use ALC to throttle K3 power levels. Regardless of what amp
manufacturers say, ALC used in that fashion is one of the worst generators
of splatter and key clicks around. They say that to keep amps from being
blown up by severe overdrive and returned under warranty.

Just don't connect it. Power levels are remembered by band/mode/ant on your
K3 and you can set power output for safe clean rated operation of your amp.

73, Guy K2AV

On Thursday, April 2, 2015, AB2E Darrell  wrote:

> Hello all,
>I am the proud new owner of a new K3. I am also the proud new owner
> of an SPE Expert 1.3K-FA solid state amp, and I have a question for the
> group regarding interfacing the K3 to the amp.
>
> My current setup is using my Icom 756 Pro III with the SPE Expert 1.3K-FA.
> The recommended setup for Icom was to connect both the Relay and ALC cables
> between the rig and amp. This is because the software in the amp
> automatically reduces the power in the rig to the best output level for the
> amp (on the amp LOW=500W out= 3W drive, MID= 1000W out= 6W drive, HIGH =
> 1500W out = 9W drive). It works flawlessly. Actually, I could leave the
> power on the Pro III untouched, and the amp reduces the power accordingly.
>
> My question for the group is, is there a way to allow the K3's output to
> be controlled by the amp? I see the note on p27 about not using an amp to
> control the K3's output, but wonder if there is a safe way to do it. For
> instance, could the K3 be set to say 15W out on all bands via the menu,
> then allow the amp to control the output via ALC for optimum drive?
>
> Any info and comments appreciated.
> 73 Darrell AB2E
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Question K3 ALC w/SPE Expert 1.3K-FA amp

[AB2E Darrell]

Guy, 
Thanks for the tip, and a couple others who say the same thing.
I'll forget using ALC and use the internal power levels per band for driving 
the amp.

Thanks all and 73,
Darrell AB2E


Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 23:00:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Question K3 ALC w/SPE Expert 1.3K-FA amp
From: k2av@gmail.com
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CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Do not use ALC to throttle K3 power levels. Regardless of what amp 
manufacturers say, ALC used in that fashion is one of the worst generators of 
splatter and key clicks around. They say that to keep amps from being blown up 
by severe overdrive and returned under warranty.
Just don't connect it. Power levels are remembered by band/mode/ant on your K3 
and you can set power output for safe clean rated operation of your amp.
73, Guy K2AV

On Thursday, April 2, 2015, AB2E Darrell  wrote:
Hello all,

   I am the proud new owner of a new K3. I am also the proud new owner of 
an SPE Expert 1.3K-FA solid state amp, and I have a question for the group 
regarding interfacing the K3 to the amp.



My current setup is using my Icom 756 Pro III with the SPE Expert 1.3K-FA. The 
recommended setup for Icom was to connect both the Relay and ALC cables between 
the rig and amp. This is because the software in the amp automatically reduces 
the power in the rig to the best output level for the amp (on the amp LOW=500W 
out= 3W drive, MID= 1000W out= 6W drive, HIGH = 1500W out = 9W drive). It works 
flawlessly. Actually, I could leave the power on the Pro III untouched, and the 
amp reduces the power accordingly.



My question for the group is, is there a way to allow the K3's output to be 
controlled by the amp? I see the note on p27 about not using an amp to control 
the K3's output, but wonder if there is a safe way to do it. For instance, 
could the K3 be set to say 15W out on all bands via the menu, then allow the 
amp to control the output via ALC for optimum drive?



Any info and comments appreciated.

73 Darrell AB2E





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Re: [Elecraft] Question K3 ALC w/SPE Expert 1.3K-FA amp

[Igor Sokolov]

Darrell,
I have exactly the same setup. Before that I had used K3 and Expert 1K-FA. 
Never used ALC,  just power per band. ALC backward regulating output power 
is the cause of interference.


73, Igor UA9CDC

- Original Message - 
From: "AB2E Darrell" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 7:34 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Question K3 ALC w/SPE Expert 1.3K-FA amp



Hello all,
  I am the proud new owner of a new K3. I am also the proud new owner 
of an SPE Expert 1.3K-FA solid state amp, and I have a question for the 
group regarding interfacing the K3 to the amp.


My current setup is using my Icom 756 Pro III with the SPE Expert 1.3K-FA. 
The recommended setup for Icom was to connect both the Relay and ALC 
cables between the rig and amp. This is because the software in the amp 
automatically reduces the power in the rig to the best output level for 
the amp (on the amp LOW=500W out= 3W drive, MID= 1000W out= 6W drive, HIGH 
= 1500W out = 9W drive). It works flawlessly. Actually, I could leave the 
power on the Pro III untouched, and the amp reduces the power accordingly.


My question for the group is, is there a way to allow the K3's output to 
be controlled by the amp? I see the note on p27 about not using an amp to 
control the K3's output, but wonder if there is a safe way to do it. For 
instance, could the K3 be set to say 15W out on all bands via the menu, 
then allow the amp to control the output via ALC for optimum drive?


Any info and comments appreciated.
73 Darrell AB2E


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Re: [Elecraft] Question K3 ALC w/SPE Expert 1.3K-FA amp

[Igor Sokolov]

Joe,
As I was told, they ship it with the pad at the input to meet FCC 
requirement of  max 15db gain. But the pad can be easily bypassed. Just 
wonder, what is the reason for such a requirement?


73, Igor UA9CDC
- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Question K3 ALC w/SPE Expert 1.3K-FA amp





This is because the software in the amp automatically reduces the
power in the rig to the best output level for the amp (on the amp
LOW=500W out= 3W drive, MID= 1000W out= 6W drive, HIGH = 1500W out =
9W drive). It works flawlessly. Actually, I could leave the power on
the Pro III untouched, and the amp reduces the power accordingly.


Is SPE shipping amplifiers that violate type acceptance or did you
modify that amplifier?  Any commercial amplifier sold in the US can
have a maximum gain of 15 dB.  Your Expert 1.3K-FA shows 22 dB -
nearly 6 dB above the limit.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-04-02 10:34 PM, AB2E Darrell wrote:

Hello all,
I am the proud new owner of a new K3. I am also the proud new 
owner of an SPE Expert 1.3K-FA solid state amp, and I have a question for 
the group regarding interfacing the K3 to the amp.


My current setup is using my Icom 756 Pro III with the SPE Expert 
1.3K-FA. The recommended setup for Icom was to connect both the Relay and 
ALC cables between the rig and amp. This is because the software in the 
amp automatically reduces the power in the rig to the best output level 
for the amp (on the amp LOW=500W out= 3W drive, MID= 1000W out= 6W drive, 
HIGH = 1500W out = 9W drive). It works flawlessly. Actually, I could 
leave the power on the Pro III untouched, and the amp reduces the power 
accordingly.


My question for the group is, is there a way to allow the K3's output to 
be controlled by the amp? I see the note on p27 about not using an amp to 
control the K3's output, but wonder if there is a safe way to do it. For 
instance, could the K3 be set to say 15W out on all bands via the menu, 
then allow the amp to control the output via ALC for optimum drive?


Any info and comments appreciated.
73 Darrell AB2E

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