Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B

[Udo Langenohl - DK5YA]

Nuf said, 100% ACK!

Thanks Jim,

happy holidays.

Udo, DK5YA

Am 18.12.2015 um 05:53 schrieb Jim Ewing:

Regarding posts reflecting impatience with KIO3B deliveries, other
displeasure:  I don't agree with you.  I have owned my K3 for about 2
months, after researching matters fully and finally making my decision to
buy.  As a benchmark, I also collect and operate Collins radios, which are
works of art and evoke the character, talent, vision and elegance of Art
Collins.  I love my K3 and greatly admire Elecraft for reasons that
parallel why I love Collins radios and the legacy of Art Collins.  In at
least these respects:



1.Elecraft are people who clearly build these radios as a labor
of love.  They operate cw (sometimes during lunch break!), do QRP, hike and
accordingly know what’s needed to build radios that are a joy to operate –
even outdoors and on the trail where radios are put to the greatest test.
They come from a long line of great radios, having built the NorCal 40 and
the Sierra, among other great radios.  I can tell from the craftsmanship,
design, attention to detail and ergonomics, that my K3 is a labor of love.



2.I admire their story.  I admire how Wayne Burdick left his
day job to start this company, and how Eric also bet his assets on the
venture as well.  They believe in and love what they do, and my K3 sitting
in my shack always reminds me of that powerful story.  They are not
beholden to the bankers who might encourage more massive production, corner
cutting and expediency, next-Q profit mentality over quality.  They have
the discipline to avoid spreading themselves too thin.  They have the
courage to keep their focus on doing things well, even if that sometimes
means we have to wait.  Sometimes, as here, good things come to people who
wait.



3.Their manual is well written, well organized, cogent, and
pleasing-to-read – some of the best technical prose I have ever read (this
I can say after practicing telecoms patent law for 33 years).  The manual
is not just some random listing of buttons and features like you see in
other manufacturers’ manuals, but rather reflects the thought, care and
organization of someone who has put himself or herself in the operator’s
shoes.



4.As a builder, I appreciate the thought, competence and
innovation reflected in how their circuits are designed, for maximum
performance and reliability, and minimal power consumption.  I also think
it’s great they don’t seem to feel compelled to hire a Jony Ive for the
latest cosmetic design in order to sell radios.



5.Their customer support is orders of magnitude above everyone
else.  The other night, for example, I sent an email about some error
messages I was getting, and Elecraft responded with the correct fix early
the next morning.  Turns out I had inadvertently, in boneheaded fashion,
hit the Config button and changed a setting.  The level of care, tact and
patience reflected in the email, on top of the raw technical competence,
were not lost on me.



6.That said, I am doubly dismayed, saddened and annoyed when my
reflector message list is fouled with the whining of people who seem blind
to these great radios and this great company.  People who whine because
they want whatever *right now *so they can dash off to their island without
delay, who are cheesed because the knobs are not sufficiently shiny, who
seem affronted by the notion of having to open their radio up to add some
of the amazing boards and circuits offered by this best-of-planet company
because it might mar the paint job.  I am reminded of that New Yorker
cartoon some years ago that shows a Met Patron standing in front of a Monet
and complaining, reflecting more on herself than on the artist.  Would you
people please *just stop*?



Thank you.



Jim Ewing

N4TMM
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S 15KHz output?

[Per-Tore Aasestrand]

Yes, I've tested it a long time ago.
It worked OK. Think I used SDR#.

Per-Tore / LA7NO



On 18 December 2015 at 03:25, Jeff Schmidt  wrote:

> Not to hijack this thread, but has anyone used the IF out of a K3(s) w/ a
> Funcube Dongle Pro+?
>
> Jeff KC9WSJ
>
> On 12/17/2015 3:16 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>>
>> No 15 kHz output, but better for SDR experimenting, use the IF output at
>> 8.215 MHz.  That gives you a output that is prior to any IF filters in the
>> K3S.
>> If you want baseband I/Q outputs, you can connect a softrock receiver or
>> LPpan2 to that IF output.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B

[Irwin Darack]

Thank you. Elecraft is a world leader in both workmanship and customer
service. They are true Hams designing and building products for Hams.

To them and everyone else on this reflector who truly help each other;
thank you and wishes for a warm and joyous holidays.

Irwin KD3TB

On Thursday, December 17, 2015, Jim Ewing  wrote:

> Regarding posts reflecting impatience with KIO3B deliveries, other
> displeasure:  I don't agree with you.  I have owned my K3 for about 2
> months, after researching matters fully and finally making my decision to
> buy.  As a benchmark, I also collect and operate Collins radios, which are
> works of art and evoke the character, talent, vision and elegance of Art
> Collins.  I love my K3 and greatly admire Elecraft for reasons that
> parallel why I love Collins radios and the legacy of Art Collins.  In at
> least these respects:
>
>
>
> 1.Elecraft are people who clearly build these radios as a labor
> of love.  They operate cw (sometimes during lunch break!), do QRP, hike and
> accordingly know what’s needed to build radios that are a joy to operate –
> even outdoors and on the trail where radios are put to the greatest test.
> They come from a long line of great radios, having built the NorCal 40 and
> the Sierra, among other great radios.  I can tell from the craftsmanship,
> design, attention to detail and ergonomics, that my K3 is a labor of love.
>
>
>
> 2.I admire their story.  I admire how Wayne Burdick left his
> day job to start this company, and how Eric also bet his assets on the
> venture as well.  They believe in and love what they do, and my K3 sitting
> in my shack always reminds me of that powerful story.  They are not
> beholden to the bankers who might encourage more massive production, corner
> cutting and expediency, next-Q profit mentality over quality.  They have
> the discipline to avoid spreading themselves too thin.  They have the
> courage to keep their focus on doing things well, even if that sometimes
> means we have to wait.  Sometimes, as here, good things come to people who
> wait.
>
>
>
> 3.Their manual is well written, well organized, cogent, and
> pleasing-to-read – some of the best technical prose I have ever read (this
> I can say after practicing telecoms patent law for 33 years).  The manual
> is not just some random listing of buttons and features like you see in
> other manufacturers’ manuals, but rather reflects the thought, care and
> organization of someone who has put himself or herself in the operator’s
> shoes.
>
>
>
> 4.As a builder, I appreciate the thought, competence and
> innovation reflected in how their circuits are designed, for maximum
> performance and reliability, and minimal power consumption.  I also think
> it’s great they don’t seem to feel compelled to hire a Jony Ive for the
> latest cosmetic design in order to sell radios.
>
>
>
> 5.Their customer support is orders of magnitude above everyone
> else.  The other night, for example, I sent an email about some error
> messages I was getting, and Elecraft responded with the correct fix early
> the next morning.  Turns out I had inadvertently, in boneheaded fashion,
> hit the Config button and changed a setting.  The level of care, tact and
> patience reflected in the email, on top of the raw technical competence,
> were not lost on me.
>
>
>
> 6.That said, I am doubly dismayed, saddened and annoyed when my
> reflector message list is fouled with the whining of people who seem blind
> to these great radios and this great company.  People who whine because
> they want whatever *right now *so they can dash off to their island without
> delay, who are cheesed because the knobs are not sufficiently shiny, who
> seem affronted by the notion of having to open their radio up to add some
> of the amazing boards and circuits offered by this best-of-planet company
> because it might mar the paint job.  I am reminded of that New Yorker
> cartoon some years ago that shows a Met Patron standing in front of a Monet
> and complaining, reflecting more on herself than on the artist.  Would you
> people please *just stop*?
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Jim Ewing
>
> N4TMM
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[Elecraft] K2 Failure - the Sequel

[Dauer, Edward]

Problem solved, thanks principally to Don Wilhelm.

For those who offered advice on the evening of the failure, and others who 
later submitted hypotheses about the cause of the problem, my thanks again; and 
here's the diagnosis from Don:

". . . one of [the PA transistors] had a collector-to-base short . . . A bit of 
wire (suspected to be a component lead cutoff) was found on the bottom of the 
board.  It is only speculation, but that wire could [also] have caused the 
initial short."

A lesson there.  Clean up before closing up.

I ought also to mention that Don had the rig repaired, calibrated and aligned, 
and on its way back to me within less than a week of the day I sent it to him.  
Outstanding.

So, stand back everyone:  Next week K2  S/N 7637 will be on the air!

Ted, KN1CBR
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[Elecraft] Microphone/Headset for K3S

[Juliean Galak]

I'm a new ham, just licensed a few months ago, and am planning on a K3S as
my first HF radio.  To that end, I'm a bit confused by the issue of
headphones/microphones.  Specifically, what kind of plugs do I need to use?

For example, I have an excellent, high-quality, computer headset with
mike.  Can I use it?  It has the standard PC 1/8" jacks, so I assume I'd
need some sort of adapters.  For headphones, that's likely just a 1/8"
stereo to 1/4" stereo adapter, right?  But what about for the mike?  And
how do I add a PTT pedal or switch?

Thanks,

-- 
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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone/Headset for K3S

[Cady, Fred]

Lots of us program a function key (PF1) to toggle between SPKR+PH On and Off.
73,
Fred KE7X



From: Elecraft  on behalf of Bill Frantz 

Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 3:29 PM
To: Juliean Galak
Cc: Elecraft List
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Microphone/Headset for K3S

Welcome to the hobby. Mike has it exactly right about the K3S.

With an adapter, you can use the front panel jack for the
headphones. Using it makes it easy to switch to the internal
speaker when you want to. (Just unplug the 1/4 inch adapter.)

73 Bill AE6JV

On 12/18/15 at 1:02 PM, n...@comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L) wrote:

>Hi Juliean -
>
>Welcome to the hobby. You're starting off with the best. Yes,
>you can use your computer headset. The K3s has an 8-band
>equalizer for both receive and transmit, so with a bit of
>tinkering, you can get excellent sound.
>
>My headset came with 1/8 plugs for both mic and phones. I plug
>them into the jacks on the back panel. No adapters needed. And
>I'm not continually bumping them. A foot switch plugs into the
>1/4" jack labeled "PTT In" on the back panel.
>
>73, Mike NF4L
>
>
>>On Dec 18, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Juliean Galak  wrote:
>>
>>I'm a new ham, just licensed a few months ago, and am planning on a K3S as
>>my first HF radio.  To that end, I'm a bit confused by the issue of
>>headphones/microphones.  Specifically, what kind of plugs do I need to use?
>>
>>For example, I have an excellent, high-quality, computer headset with
>>mike.  Can I use it?  It has the standard PC 1/8" jacks, so I assume I'd
>>need some sort of adapters.  For headphones, that's likely just a 1/8"
>>stereo to 1/4" stereo adapter, right?  But what about for the mike?  And
>>how do I add a PTT pedal or switch?
---
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(408)356-8506  |not an add-on feature. - Attr-| 16345
Englewood Ave
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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone/Headset for K3S

[Mike Reublin NF4L]

I have PF1 programmed to toggle spkr+phones, phones are on all the time.

73, Mike NF4L


> On Dec 18, 2015, at 5:29 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
> 
> Welcome to the hobby. Mike has it exactly right about the K3S.
> 
> With an adapter, you can use the front panel jack for the headphones. Using 
> it makes it easy to switch to the internal speaker when you want to. (Just 
> unplug the 1/4 inch adapter.)
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
> On 12/18/15 at 1:02 PM, n...@comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L) wrote:
> 
>> Hi Juliean -
>> 
>> Welcome to the hobby. You're starting off with the best. Yes, you can use 
>> your computer headset. The K3s has an 8-band equalizer for both receive and 
>> transmit, so with a bit of tinkering, you can get excellent sound.
>> 
>> My headset came with 1/8 plugs for both mic and phones. I plug them into the 
>> jacks on the back panel. No adapters needed. And I'm not continually bumping 
>> them. A foot switch plugs into the 1/4" jack labeled "PTT In" on the back 
>> panel.
>> 
>> 73, Mike NF4L
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 18, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Juliean Galak  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm a new ham, just licensed a few months ago, and am planning on a K3S as
>>> my first HF radio.  To that end, I'm a bit confused by the issue of
>>> headphones/microphones.  Specifically, what kind of plugs do I need to use?
>>> 
>>> For example, I have an excellent, high-quality, computer headset with
>>> mike.  Can I use it?  It has the standard PC 1/8" jacks, so I assume I'd
>>> need some sort of adapters.  For headphones, that's likely just a 1/8"
>>> stereo to 1/4" stereo adapter, right?  But what about for the mike?  And
>>> how do I add a PTT pedal or switch?
> ---
> Bill Frantz|Security, like correctness, is| Periwinkle
> (408)356-8506  |not an add-on feature. - Attr-| 16345 Englewood Ave
> www.pwpconsult.com |ibuted to Andrew Tanenbaum| Los Gatos, CA 95032
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[Elecraft] KX3 for Sale - Choose your own Christmas present.

[Buck via Elecraft]

Who needs another tie for Christmas?  Fix yourself up with what you 
really want.


KX3 Equipped as follows:

KX3-KKX3-K 160-6 M Transceiver $999.95
KX3-PCKTKX3-PCKT Accessory Cable Set$19.95
KXAT3KXAT3 ATU for the KX3$179.95
KXBC3Int. NiMH Charger/Clk for KX3$69.95
KXFL3KXFL3 Dual-Passband Roofing Filter$139.95
KXPD3KXPD3 Precision Keyer Paddle$129.95
TOTAL $1,540 plus shipping $21

Very lightly used for a few very enjoyable backyard-picnic-table QSOs.  
Non-smoking (both the rig and myself).  Works great and looks great.  
Tell the family to forget the Santa tie.  You've taken care of Christmas 
for them.


Total package $1,350 including shipping to Continental US.  PayPal OK.  
I will throw in a a nice padded carry case and a bunch of adapters.


K4ia
Buck
Honor Roll 334
8BDXCC


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Re: [Elecraft] K3IOB

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

We were able to accelerate expected date to open orders to begin the middle of 
next week, so I authorized a couple of upgrades for repairs that were holding 
for them here.


Stay tuned! We'll likely have it up on the order form the middle of this next 
week or earlier. Mass shipping will start 5-10 days after that.


73,

Eric
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On 12/18/2015 4:26 PM, Ken Widelitz wrote:

I just received an invoice for two of my K3s that were in the Elecraft shop
for upgrades and repairs. I had asked that they hold the radios for the
KIO3B upgrade. It was done today. They are $389.95 each.

73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT


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Re: [Elecraft] KS3/P3 SWR Display Readings

[Don Wilhelm]

Ferris,

I am assuming that you are referring to the SWR displayed from the P3 
Transmit Monitor which is placed in your feedline to the antenna.  If 
other than that, please correct me.


The SWR displayed on the Transmit monitor is the SWR on the transmission 
line to the antenna - in other words, it is the SWR at the *output* of 
the tuner in the K3S.
The wattmeter in the K3S indicates the SWR at the *input* of the KAT3.  
It tunes to 'keep the K3S finals happy'.  That will not change the SWR 
on the feedline to the antenna.


If you were to place the TX monitor sensor between the K3S PA and the 
KAT3 (impossible to connect there), then the TX monitor and the K3S 
should agree.
In other words, the term "Antenna Tuner" is not an entirely correct 
term.  It does not change the SWR on your antenna and feedline, but 
instead transforms the SWR at the output into a low SWR at its input.
An ATU is a system of lumped components that compensates for the SWR on 
the antenna and feedline and transforms it to a low SWR at its input to 
match the 50 ohms resistive match wanted for maximum efficiency from the 
transceiver PA transistors.


In other words, the K3S is showing you the SWR at the *input* of the 
KAT3, but the SWR at the *output* of the KAT3 will not be changed. If 
you want to change that, you will have to work on your antenna and 
feedline system.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/18/2015 7:35 PM, Ferris Jennings wrote:

Hell-o Everyone -

  


Finished building my K3S and P3 (with TX Mon), and I'm starting to play with
the configuration/menus.

I have the KAT3 ATU installed, and it works great. But I do have a question
regarding the SWR displays.

  


I'm running a simple diploe, and the KAT3 tunes it down to 1.0-1 in a second
flat. However, the SWR meter on the PS display always reads way higher,
something like 2.9 - 1. I've swapped antennas and lead (another dipole), and
I get the same results.

  


Question is: why the discrepancy in SWR from the K3S display to the P3
display? Am I missing a configuration setting?

  



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[Elecraft] K3IOB

[Ken Widelitz]

I just received an invoice for two of my K3s that were in the Elecraft shop
for upgrades and repairs. I had asked that they hold the radios for the
KIO3B upgrade. It was done today. They are $389.95 each. 

 

73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT

 

 

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[Elecraft] KS3/P3 SWR Display Readings

[Ferris Jennings]

Hell-o Everyone -

 

Finished building my K3S and P3 (with TX Mon), and I'm starting to play with
the configuration/menus.

I have the KAT3 ATU installed, and it works great. But I do have a question
regarding the SWR displays.

 

I'm running a simple diploe, and the KAT3 tunes it down to 1.0-1 in a second
flat. However, the SWR meter on the PS display always reads way higher,
something like 2.9 - 1. I've swapped antennas and lead (another dipole), and
I get the same results.

 

Question is: why the discrepancy in SWR from the K3S display to the P3
display? Am I missing a configuration setting?

 

Thanks

-Ferris NB6T-

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[Elecraft] IF out and FunCube

[Doug Ellmore]

Jeff,

Regarding funcube and IF of K3.

I use a fun cube pro and NAP3 with a tap from my second receiver.

I use win4k3 an LPpan IF to IQ to a Steinberg UR22 or Xonar U7 soundcars to
display my main receiver.  Win4k3 works great for station integration.

All works fine.

Doug NA1DZ
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[Elecraft] K3S data modes

[Juliean Galak]

Wanted to check my understanding of one other thing:  

Doing data modes, especially RTTY, PSK31, and JT65, doesn't require any special 
connections between pc and radio, right?  No mic to headphone wires or USB 
sound cards?  It's all handled by the codec over the USB connection?

What about computer-generated and decoded CW?  Can that also be handled by the 
codec?

Thanks,
Juliean
KD2JPF 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S data modes

[Juliean Galak]

I should add that I'm running Windows though I can easily run Linux instead.

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 8:05 PM, Juliean Galak  wrote:
> 
> Wanted to check my understanding of one other thing:  
> 
> Doing data modes, especially RTTY, PSK31, and JT65, doesn't require any 
> special connections between pc and radio, right?  No mic to headphone wires 
> or USB sound cards?  It's all handled by the codec over the USB connection?
> 
> What about computer-generated and decoded CW?  Can that also be handled by 
> the codec?
> 
> Thanks,
> Juliean
> KD2JPF
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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B

[Gary]

I don't care, Merry Xmas everybody
Gary 

-Original Message-
From: "Irwin Darack" 
Sent: ‎18/‎12/‎2015 11:40 PM
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B

Thank you. Elecraft is a world leader in both workmanship and customer
service. They are true Hams designing and building products for Hams.

To them and everyone else on this reflector who truly help each other;
thank you and wishes for a warm and joyous holidays.

Irwin KD3TB

On Thursday, December 17, 2015, Jim Ewing  wrote:

> Regarding posts reflecting impatience with KIO3B deliveries, other
> displeasure:  I don't agree with you.  I have owned my K3 for about 2
> months, after researching matters fully and finally making my decision to
> buy.  As a benchmark, I also collect and operate Collins radios, which are
> works of art and evoke the character, talent, vision and elegance of Art
> Collins.  I love my K3 and greatly admire Elecraft for reasons that
> parallel why I love Collins radios and the legacy of Art Collins.  In at
> least these respects:
>
>
>
> 1.Elecraft are people who clearly build these radios as a labor
> of love.  They operate cw (sometimes during lunch break!), do QRP, hike and
> accordingly know what’s needed to build radios that are a joy to operate –
> even outdoors and on the trail where radios are put to the greatest test.
> They come from a long line of great radios, having built the NorCal 40 and
> the Sierra, among other great radios.  I can tell from the craftsmanship,
> design, attention to detail and ergonomics, that my K3 is a labor of love.
>
>
>
> 2.I admire their story.  I admire how Wayne Burdick left his
> day job to start this company, and how Eric also bet his assets on the
> venture as well.  They believe in and love what they do, and my K3 sitting
> in my shack always reminds me of that powerful story.  They are not
> beholden to the bankers who might encourage more massive production, corner
> cutting and expediency, next-Q profit mentality over quality.  They have
> the discipline to avoid spreading themselves too thin.  They have the
> courage to keep their focus on doing things well, even if that sometimes
> means we have to wait.  Sometimes, as here, good things come to people who
> wait.
>
>
>
> 3.Their manual is well written, well organized, cogent, and
> pleasing-to-read – some of the best technical prose I have ever read (this
> I can say after practicing telecoms patent law for 33 years).  The manual
> is not just some random listing of buttons and features like you see in
> other manufacturers’ manuals, but rather reflects the thought, care and
> organization of someone who has put himself or herself in the operator’s
> shoes.
>
>
>
> 4.As a builder, I appreciate the thought, competence and
> innovation reflected in how their circuits are designed, for maximum
> performance and reliability, and minimal power consumption.  I also think
> it’s great they don’t seem to feel compelled to hire a Jony Ive for the
> latest cosmetic design in order to sell radios.
>
>
>
> 5.Their customer support is orders of magnitude above everyone
> else.  The other night, for example, I sent an email about some error
> messages I was getting, and Elecraft responded with the correct fix early
> the next morning.  Turns out I had inadvertently, in boneheaded fashion,
> hit the Config button and changed a setting.  The level of care, tact and
> patience reflected in the email, on top of the raw technical competence,
> were not lost on me.
>
>
>
> 6.That said, I am doubly dismayed, saddened and annoyed when my
> reflector message list is fouled with the whining of people who seem blind
> to these great radios and this great company.  People who whine because
> they want whatever *right now *so they can dash off to their island without
> delay, who are cheesed because the knobs are not sufficiently shiny, who
> seem affronted by the notion of having to open their radio up to add some
> of the amazing boards and circuits offered by this best-of-planet company
> because it might mar the paint job.  I am reminded of that New Yorker
> cartoon some years ago that shows a Met Patron standing in front of a Monet
> and complaining, reflecting more on herself than on the artist.  Would you
> people please *just stop*?
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Jim Ewing
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone/Headset for K3S

[Bill Frantz]

Welcome to the hobby. Mike has it exactly right about the K3S.

With an adapter, you can use the front panel jack for the 
headphones. Using it makes it easy to switch to the internal 
speaker when you want to. (Just unplug the 1/4 inch adapter.)


73 Bill AE6JV

On 12/18/15 at 1:02 PM, n...@comcast.net (Mike Reublin NF4L) wrote:


Hi Juliean -

Welcome to the hobby. You're starting off with the best. Yes, 
you can use your computer headset. The K3s has an 8-band 
equalizer for both receive and transmit, so with a bit of 
tinkering, you can get excellent sound.


My headset came with 1/8 plugs for both mic and phones. I plug 
them into the jacks on the back panel. No adapters needed. And 
I'm not continually bumping them. A foot switch plugs into the 
1/4" jack labeled "PTT In" on the back panel.


73, Mike NF4L



On Dec 18, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Juliean Galak  wrote:

I'm a new ham, just licensed a few months ago, and am planning on a K3S as
my first HF radio.  To that end, I'm a bit confused by the issue of
headphones/microphones.  Specifically, what kind of plugs do I need to use?

For example, I have an excellent, high-quality, computer headset with
mike.  Can I use it?  It has the standard PC 1/8" jacks, so I assume I'd
need some sort of adapters.  For headphones, that's likely just a 1/8"
stereo to 1/4" stereo adapter, right?  But what about for the mike?  And
how do I add a PTT pedal or switch?

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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone/Headset for K3S

[Mike Reublin NF4L]

Hi Juliean -

Welcome to the hobby. You're starting off with the best. Yes, you can use your 
computer headset. The K3s has an 8-band equalizer for both receive and 
transmit, so with a bit of tinkering, you can get excellent sound.

My headset came with 1/8 plugs for both mic and phones. I plug them into the 
jacks on the back panel. No adapters needed. And I'm not continually bumping 
them. A foot switch plugs into the 1/4" jack labeled "PTT In" on the back panel.

73, Mike NF4L


> On Dec 18, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Juliean Galak  wrote:
> 
> I'm a new ham, just licensed a few months ago, and am planning on a K3S as
> my first HF radio.  To that end, I'm a bit confused by the issue of
> headphones/microphones.  Specifically, what kind of plugs do I need to use?
> 
> For example, I have an excellent, high-quality, computer headset with
> mike.  Can I use it?  It has the standard PC 1/8" jacks, so I assume I'd
> need some sort of adapters.  For headphones, that's likely just a 1/8"
> stereo to 1/4" stereo adapter, right?  But what about for the mike?  And
> how do I add a PTT pedal or switch?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- 
> Juliean Galak
> jga...@gmail.com
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Re: [Elecraft] K3IOB

[Dr. William J. Schmidt, II]

Son of a bitch.


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email:  b...@wjschmidt.com
 

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 7:26 PM, Ken Widelitz  wrote:
> 
> I just received an invoice for two of my K3s that were in the Elecraft shop
> for upgrades and repairs. I had asked that they hold the radios for the
> KIO3B upgrade. It was done today. They are $389.95 each. 
> 
> 
> 
> 73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KS3/P3 SWR Display Readings

[Nr4c]

No. You have just discovered the second law of SWR, "The confusion factor goes 
up exponentially with number of SWR meters in the system."

In other words the SWR reading in the K3S (via KAT3) is the result of 
"matching" antenna to the output of the amplifier in the radio (LPA or KPA3). 
Your sensor for the TXMON is between the antenna and the radio so does not know 
of the "match" and reports the un-matched SWR of the antenna. 

Oh, the first law, "You can never have too many SWR meters, in the closet."

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Dec 18, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Ferris Jennings  
> wrote:
> 
> Hell-o Everyone -
> 
> 
> 
> Finished building my K3S and P3 (with TX Mon), and I'm starting to play with
> the configuration/menus.
> 
> I have the KAT3 ATU installed, and it works great. But I do have a question
> regarding the SWR displays.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm running a simple diploe, and the KAT3 tunes it down to 1.0-1 in a second
> flat. However, the SWR meter on the PS display always reads way higher,
> something like 2.9 - 1. I've swapped antennas and lead (another dipole), and
> I get the same results.
> 
> 
> 
> Question is: why the discrepancy in SWR from the K3S display to the P3
> display? Am I missing a configuration setting?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> -Ferris NB6T-
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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone/Headset for K3S

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

> For example, I have an excellent, high-quality, computer headset with
> mike.  Can I use it?

Yes, you will likely need to have bias on for whichever mic jack you
use.


It has the standard PC 1/8" jacks, so I assume I'd need some sort of
adapters. But what about for the mike?  And how do I add a PTT pedal
or switch?


You can either plug it directly into the 3.5mm jacks on the rear panel
and program a function key (typically PF1) to turn the speaker(s) On/Off
or you can use an 1/8" to 1/4" adapter for the headphones and a Heil
AD1-K (Kenwood) adapter to connect the mic to the front panel (Foster)
mic jack.  You could also build your own equivalent of the AD1-K with
an 8 pin mic plug and a couple in-line female jacks for the 1/8" mic
plug and PTT.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 12/18/2015 2:58 PM, Juliean Galak wrote:

I'm a new ham, just licensed a few months ago, and am planning on a K3S as
my first HF radio.  To that end, I'm a bit confused by the issue of
headphones/microphones.  Specifically, what kind of plugs do I need to use?

For example, I have an excellent, high-quality, computer headset with
mike.  Can I use it?  It has the standard PC 1/8" jacks, so I assume I'd
need some sort of adapters.  For headphones, that's likely just a 1/8"
stereo to 1/4" stereo adapter, right?  But what about for the mike?  And
how do I add a PTT pedal or switch?

Thanks,


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Re: [Elecraft] KS3/P3 SWR Display Readings

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Ferris, is the sensor for the TX MON mounted directly on the ANT connector
on your K3S? (no coax jumper to the sensor). 

The reason for the question is this. The tuner in the K3S adjusts the
impedance the K3S's finals see to 50 ohms at the input to the KAT3 inside
the K3S, but the impedance the KAT3 sees at the ANT connector to the coax
might be quite different. That's what the KAT3 does. It transforms whatever
impedance it sees at the ANT connector to 50 ohms, non reactive or as close
as it can get and that's the SWR you see reported. It tells you the K3S
finals are delivering power most efficiently to your antenna system. But it
does nothing about the SWR on your coax feedline to the antenna. 

Unless your feed line is exactly 50 ohms and it is seeing exactly 50 ohms at
the antenna, there will be standing waves on the feed line. The idea is to
keep them low enough to prevent excessive feed line losses, but the SWR is
virtually never zero.

The impedance at any point along your feed line will vary as you move from
the rig to the antenna. That's dependent upon the SWR on the feed line and
the frequency. 

Any feed line between the sensor in the KAT3 and the sensor for the P3 TX
MON will cause them to see different impedances and so they will report
different SWRs.  

The best way to check the two is to mount your P3 TX MON sensor right at the
K3S ANT connector with a double male adapter so there's an absolute minimum
of feed line between the KAT3's SWR bridge in the one in the IX MON sensor. 

Ideally terminate the TX MON sensor in a good 50 ohm dummy load instead of
connecting it to the antenna. 

Then both SWRs should agree within a reasonable range. 

73, Ron AC7AC



-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ferris
Jennings
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 4:36 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KS3/P3 SWR Display Readings

Hell-o Everyone -

 

Finished building my K3S and P3 (with TX Mon), and I'm starting to play with
the configuration/menus.

I have the KAT3 ATU installed, and it works great. But I do have a question
regarding the SWR displays.

 

I'm running a simple diploe, and the KAT3 tunes it down to 1.0-1 in a second
flat. However, the SWR meter on the PS display always reads way higher,
something like 2.9 - 1. I've swapped antennas and lead (another dipole), and
I get the same results.

 

Question is: why the discrepancy in SWR from the K3S display to the P3
display? Am I missing a configuration setting?

 

Thanks

-Ferris NB6T-

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