Re: [Elecraft] Noise Cancelling K3S

[Enzo Adrian-Reyes]

Nobody here have noise problems?
I've spoke to a few VK Hams here they all say they have 9db of noise on 40M

I get power line noise as I am near Kilo Volt power lines and it causes a
lot of noise.

I know the K3S has the diversity transceiver and if its a DSP feature it
could be added to the K3S.

Regards

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Dave Cole  wrote:

> On Wed, 2016-07-13 at 09:53 +1000, Enzo Adrian-Reyes wrote:
> > Hi All
> >
> > I am just wondering since the rise of amount of noise sources, why
> > couldn't elecraft come up with an integrated solution for this, either
> > on the K3 like or perhaps add a unit external to the KX3.
> >
>
> I have often wondered the same thing...
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

[Enzo Adrian-Reyes]

Was thinking of a K3S, although I have a KX3, I am quite surprised as to
how well it performs, the radio is simply amazing, and I am only allowed
10W since I am on the foundation license.

Thinking rather than the 100W amp spend the money on a K3S/10 and slowly
upgrade.

Regards

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Phil Wheeler  wrote:

> I believe you have the KAF2, the audio filter. Likely it will do well
> enough for you -- and it cannot be used with the KDPS2, it's one or the
> other.
>
> It discontinued, may be due to some part obsolescence.
>
> 73, Phil W7OX
>
> On 7/17/16 7:26 PM, Reuben Popp wrote:
>
>> Interesting, but the KDSP2 appears to have disappeared on the order page.
>> Did that part become discontinued for one reason or another?
>>
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[Elecraft] K3 PTT with DEMI Transverters

[Ken Kontor via Elecraft]

Gentlemen,

I am looking for a circuit that one of you K3 users may have designed to 
automatically switch the K3 PTT line between multible external 
transverters as the K3 is switched from band to band.


I presently use the K3 PTT line to key my 6m amp driven with 30 w from 
my K3.


I recently purchased a DEMI 2m HP transverter to drive my 2m 3CX800 amp. 
The DEMI puts out 50 w with 1 mw of drive from the K3. The problem I 
have is when I key the DEMI Transverter from Pin 10 on the K3 15 Pin 
accessory socket, the K3 PTT out on the back of the K3 also Keys my 6m 
Amp even though the K3 is set to 2m. I need a circuit that will decode 
the BCD output from the K3 15 Pin connector to key the 6m Amp when I am 
on 6m and automatically switch the PTT line to the DEMI Transverter when 
I am on 2m. A manual switch would be very inconvenient for VHF 
contesting as one need to quickly QSY between bands with one station for 
multiple points. Also in the future I might add a 432 Transverter and 
would like to auto switch  the PTT for it also. I would only require 
three outputs as I would only switch between 6m, 2m and 70 cm.


I am a Mechanical Engineer with limited Electrical knowledge. I did 
build  a K2 and can breadboard stuff from a schematic and parts list, 
but I am not a circuit designer and have no knowledge of digital logic 
stuff other than I know it exists. I am in need of a designed and tested 
circuit that is know to work reliably. Given the circuit diagram and a 
parts list I could then reproduce it.


Your help is greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance for any 
information you can provide.


73, Ken - W8KEN


PS: you may contact me off line at w8...@yahoo.com


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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

[Phil Wheeler]

I believe you have the KAF2, the audio filter. 
Likely it will do well enough for you -- and it 
cannot be used with the KDPS2, it's one or the other.


It discontinued, may be due to some part obsolescence.

73, Phil W7OX

On 7/17/16 7:26 PM, Reuben Popp wrote:

Interesting, but the KDSP2 appears to have disappeared on the order page.
Did that part become discontinued for one reason or another?


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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

[Don Wilhelm]

Reuben,

I cannot find it on the webpage either, but I do not know why.
You might try phoning the sales office instead of ordering on-line.

The KDSP2 is an enhancement to the K2 - the basic K2 is just fine for 
general use even without the KDSP2.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/17/2016 10:26 PM, Reuben Popp wrote:
Interesting, but the KDSP2 appears to have disappeared on the order 
page.  Did that part become discontinued for one reason or another?




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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

[Byron Servies]

Hi there!

A few thoughts my experience, in case they help.

I am a relatively recent ham, having been first licensed in 2008. At
that time, I bought a lot of appliances: FT-450, remote auto tuners,
ARRL stealth antenna books. It wasn't too long before I realized that
I was not achieving my own personal goals in ham radio: learning about
radio electronics. And HF really wasn't working well for me, which is
no surprise given my HOA QTH and want of understanding.

So, I sold my appliances and bought a K1 kit and learned CW. Building
that kit was great, and I still really enjoy using that radio. You
adjust the VFO frequncy by picking at the windings of an inductor! How
much fun is that! So much fun.

I have since learned a lot more about radio and electronics, built a
K2 with all the features, and have been through several iterations of
antennas. I discovered contesting, which added a new goal. And, I even
presented my failures at Pacificon a couple of years ago. So many
failures!  But it was a fun presentation to give.

Right now, I have a used K3 at Elecraft being upgraded and I think I
am ready for it. But, hey, that's me. Your situation will be
different.

My point is that you need to figure out what you want to do. Just be
prepared for potential failure and a change in direction! Phil gives
solid advice, and I recommend considering it.

Oh, and definitely get a license first.

73, Byron N6NUL

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 7:26 PM, Reuben Popp  wrote:
> Interesting, but the KDSP2 appears to have disappeared on the order page.
> Did that part become discontinued for one reason or another?
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
>
>> Reuben,
>>
>> Since you do not yet have a license, and you *do* have a K2/10, you
>> already have one of the best receivers on the market.  Of course, the K3S
>> and the KX3 are a bit better, but the improvement is marginal.
>>
>> Use the K2 and concentrate on getting your license.
>> Once you have your license coming, examine your ham radio budget and your
>> aspirations.
>> If you can build thru-hole gear, adding the KPA100 to your base K2 will
>> get you a 100 watt transceiver at the lowest cost.  It will be a contest
>> grade 100 watt class transceiver.
>>
>> Yes, the Sherwood ratings of the K3/K3S and KX3 surpass the K2, but not by
>> much.
>>
>> OTOH, if you are into SWLing as well as ham radio, the K2 only has good
>> response at frequencies close to the ham bands.  The K3S with the KBPF3A
>> option is a better choice for SWLing.
>>
>> That is the technical side of things, your K2 is great for ham band
>> reception, and the K3S with KBPF3 is great for receive outside the ham
>> bands.
>>
>> BUT - concentrate on getting your general (or extra) license before you
>> consider an upgrade to your already very good Elecraft K2.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>>
>> On 7/17/2016 1:02 PM, Reuben Popp wrote:
>>
>>> The higher-end SDR is an option I suppose, but I already have too many
>>> receivers as it is.  Two R-390A's, three SP-600 variants, two BC-348s and
>>> in the garage two R-1051-B sets.  Yes, I might have neglected to mention
>>> before that when I first got into the hobby I was instantly drawn to the
>>> boatanchor camp (having been in the Navy myself some years ago).  Needless
>>> to say, my K2/10 is the smallest, and most definitely, _lightest_ radio I
>>> own.  This coming from the guy who moved most of these into storage in the
>>> past two weeks to make room for the baby boy arriving in nine weeks.  Yes,
>>> my back is still recuperating, but my chiropractor?  She loves me.  ;).
>>>
>>> I *will* get my ticket, it's just a matter of when, so if I'm in for a
>>> penny on a receiver, I'm in for a pound and I might as well get a
>>> transceiver.
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

[Reuben Popp]

Interesting, but the KDSP2 appears to have disappeared on the order page.
Did that part become discontinued for one reason or another?

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Reuben,
>
> Since you do not yet have a license, and you *do* have a K2/10, you
> already have one of the best receivers on the market.  Of course, the K3S
> and the KX3 are a bit better, but the improvement is marginal.
>
> Use the K2 and concentrate on getting your license.
> Once you have your license coming, examine your ham radio budget and your
> aspirations.
> If you can build thru-hole gear, adding the KPA100 to your base K2 will
> get you a 100 watt transceiver at the lowest cost.  It will be a contest
> grade 100 watt class transceiver.
>
> Yes, the Sherwood ratings of the K3/K3S and KX3 surpass the K2, but not by
> much.
>
> OTOH, if you are into SWLing as well as ham radio, the K2 only has good
> response at frequencies close to the ham bands.  The K3S with the KBPF3A
> option is a better choice for SWLing.
>
> That is the technical side of things, your K2 is great for ham band
> reception, and the K3S with KBPF3 is great for receive outside the ham
> bands.
>
> BUT - concentrate on getting your general (or extra) license before you
> consider an upgrade to your already very good Elecraft K2.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
> On 7/17/2016 1:02 PM, Reuben Popp wrote:
>
>> The higher-end SDR is an option I suppose, but I already have too many
>> receivers as it is.  Two R-390A's, three SP-600 variants, two BC-348s and
>> in the garage two R-1051-B sets.  Yes, I might have neglected to mention
>> before that when I first got into the hobby I was instantly drawn to the
>> boatanchor camp (having been in the Navy myself some years ago).  Needless
>> to say, my K2/10 is the smallest, and most definitely, _lightest_ radio I
>> own.  This coming from the guy who moved most of these into storage in the
>> past two weeks to make room for the baby boy arriving in nine weeks.  Yes,
>> my back is still recuperating, but my chiropractor?  She loves me.  ;).
>>
>> I *will* get my ticket, it's just a matter of when, so if I'm in for a
>> penny on a receiver, I'm in for a pound and I might as well get a
>> transceiver.
>>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] deoxit

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

I use the canned stuff on noisy potentiometers where I give them a shot
through one of the openings. 

On any contacts, I have a 2 oz bottle with a needle applicator that puts
exactly what I want where I want it. 

Servicing ancient radars and other shipboard gear with relays and many
connectors, that tiny 2 oz bottle has lasted me more than a decade! 

73, Ron AC7AC

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Reuben
Popp
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 6:33 PM
To: Chris Meagher; Elecraft Reflector Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] deoxit

Hey Chris,

On my older hollowstate stuff, I usually spray a quantity into a small cup
and then use a q-tip to apply deoxit to areas in a controlled manner.  That
might not make as big a difference on newer equipment, but I was always told
it was a good idea around phenolic tube sockets.

GL and 73
Reuben

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> When the can arrives, I plan to deoxit front panel connections on an 
> early
> K3
> which has tinned connectors.
> This is to try to fix erratic VFO behaviour while tuning.
> Any hints on how to do this effectively? thanks
>
> Chris
> VK2ACD
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Re: [Elecraft] deoxit

[Don Wilhelm]

Chris,

Get the gold pin connectors from Elecraft and install them.  That is a 
better solution than DeOxit on the tin-plated connectors.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/17/2016 9:28 PM, Chris Meagher wrote:

Hi
When the can arrives, I plan to deoxit front panel connections on an early
K3
which has tinned connectors.
This is to try to fix erratic VFO behaviour while tuning.
Any hints on how to do this effectively? thanks




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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

[Don Wilhelm]

Reuben,

Since you do not yet have a license, and you *do* have a K2/10, you 
already have one of the best receivers on the market.  Of course, the 
K3S and the KX3 are a bit better, but the improvement is marginal.


Use the K2 and concentrate on getting your license.
Once you have your license coming, examine your ham radio budget and 
your aspirations.
If you can build thru-hole gear, adding the KPA100 to your base K2 will 
get you a 100 watt transceiver at the lowest cost.  It will be a contest 
grade 100 watt class transceiver.


Yes, the Sherwood ratings of the K3/K3S and KX3 surpass the K2, but not 
by much.


OTOH, if you are into SWLing as well as ham radio, the K2 only has good 
response at frequencies close to the ham bands.  The K3S with the KBPF3A 
option is a better choice for SWLing.


That is the technical side of things, your K2 is great for ham band 
reception, and the K3S with KBPF3 is great for receive outside the ham 
bands.


BUT - concentrate on getting your general (or extra) license before you 
consider an upgrade to your already very good Elecraft K2.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/17/2016 1:02 PM, Reuben Popp wrote:

The higher-end SDR is an option I suppose, but I already have too many
receivers as it is.  Two R-390A's, three SP-600 variants, two BC-348s and
in the garage two R-1051-B sets.  Yes, I might have neglected to mention
before that when I first got into the hobby I was instantly drawn to the
boatanchor camp (having been in the Navy myself some years ago).  Needless
to say, my K2/10 is the smallest, and most definitely, _lightest_ radio I
own.  This coming from the guy who moved most of these into storage in the
past two weeks to make room for the baby boy arriving in nine weeks.  Yes,
my back is still recuperating, but my chiropractor?  She loves me.  ;).

I *will* get my ticket, it's just a matter of when, so if I'm in for a
penny on a receiver, I'm in for a pound and I might as well get a
transceiver.


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Re: [Elecraft] deoxit

[Reuben Popp]

Hey Chris,

On my older hollowstate stuff, I usually spray a quantity into a small cup
and then use a q-tip to apply deoxit to areas in a controlled manner.  That
might not make as big a difference on newer equipment, but I was always
told it was a good idea around phenolic tube sockets.

GL and 73
Reuben

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 8:28 PM, Chris Meagher  wrote:

> Hi
> When the can arrives, I plan to deoxit front panel connections on an early
> K3
> which has tinned connectors.
> This is to try to fix erratic VFO behaviour while tuning.
> Any hints on how to do this effectively? thanks
>
> Chris
> VK2ACD
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[Elecraft] deoxit

[Chris Meagher]

Hi
When the can arrives, I plan to deoxit front panel connections on an early
K3
which has tinned connectors.
This is to try to fix erratic VFO behaviour while tuning.
Any hints on how to do this effectively? thanks

Chris
VK2ACD
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 power oddity

[Bob Nielsen]

Running at reduced power for RTTY is probably a good idea.  My TS-570 
died in the middle of a RTTY contact at 100 W. and as bad as that was, 
I'd hate to think of it happening to a K3!


Bob, N7XY

On 7/17/16 7:24 AM, George Kidder wrote:

Thanks Don for the explanation of what is going on with the "ALC" meter.

I have two suggestions relative to using my K3/100.  The first is a 
suggestion I made by email some years ago, with no reply.  When 
changing from "Spkr + Phones" to "Phones" ( that is, spkr off) I need 
differing audio levels due to the different efficiencies of the 
speakers and phones.  So I crank up the gain on when using phones.  So 
far so good.  BUT; the monitor level remains constant, and changing 
that is a different process.  I'm sure that for some, having the two 
audio levels independent is a good thing - for me, it wold be nice to 
link them.  Could a menu option be constructed which would allow for 
linking monitor and receiver audio?


My second problem is that when running CW or SSB, I like to use full 
power  (100 W).  On digital modes or FM, it seems prudent to limit the 
rig to 50 W.  The power level is currently saved "per band" - cold it 
be saved "per mode" as well?  This would save a lot of "oops" time.


Or maybe these functions are already available and I just haven't 
found them!


George, W3HBM. Bar Harbor, ME


On 7/17/2016 9:19 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Lee (and others)

It is normal for the power control circuits to be reset after a band 
change.  That prevents overshoot if you are driving an amplifier.
Normally the power will come up to the requested power level in a 
couple dot times on CW, or several syllables when operating voice.


If the problem is on voice or data, make sure you are driving the 
audio sufficiently.  If you are not driving the K3 audio hard enough, 
power control will be "flaky".


For Voice: With the compression set to zero, you should produce 5 to 
7 bars on the ALC meter.  After adjusting the mic gain for that 
indication, increase the compression as you choose - normally I would 
suggest compression of less than 10dB.


For RTTY, if you are using FSK D mode, the power control should be 
automatic, but if you are using AFSK A (or other soundcard data 
modes), then do check your audio drive - of course compression should 
be set to zero, but the audio drive should drive the ALC meter to 4 
bars solid with the 5th bar flashing.


Note that the K3 controls power differently than other transceivers.  
Ignore the advice on the internet to show no ALC and adjust the power 
with the audio level.
With the K3 (and K3S, KX3, KX2), the "ALC" meter is a combination 
"VU" meter and ALC meter.  The 1st 4 bars are there to help you 
adjust the audio level.  The onset of ALC is indicated by the 5th 
bar.  So 4 bars solid and 5th bar flickering is the "no ALC" point 
for the K3.
In data modes, adjust the power with the Power knob, not the audio 
level.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/17/2016 8:38 AM, Leroy Buller wrote:
Operated RTTY NAQP this weekend.   When changing bands, I noticed my 
power
would drop to 40 watts or so.  After several transmissions, it would 
rise
to 100 watts.  I don't think this is normal.   All antennas are 
matched.

Comments?




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 K144XV for sale

[KK1W]

Jeff, 

If the KFL3B-FM is still available I'd like to purchase it. 

Please let me know and if it's available how you would like payment. 

73...

Jim/KK1W 



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Re: [Elecraft] K-Pod Usability

[Mike Murray]

I've been looking at the K-Pod, but since I already have a PigKnob I
decided to wait a bit and see how things shake out.  While it worked out OK
in the NAQP this weekend, I can see where Ed has used the K-Pod in areas
that the Pig won't mimic and would be very helpful.

Also, I haven't been able to find any reference as yet, but does the K-Pod
also work with the K3/0 mini in remote operations?

73,
Mike - W0AG

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Ed Muns  wrote:

> The K-Pod really enhanced my SO2V operation in the NAQP RTTY contest last
> night.  While running on VFO-A, I used the K-Pod predominantly for VFO-B to
> tune the band, using the P3 as guidance, for finding other CQing stations
> to
> work.  Overall, I felt I did a far better job (faster and more thorough)
> using the K-Pod instead of the normal VFO-B knob.
>
>
>
>
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[Elecraft] NAQCC July Sprint this Wednesday Evening

[Larry W2LJ]

The July sprint is this coming Wednesday evening local time (July 20th,
EDT - 8:30-10:30PM, CDT - 7:30-9:30PM, MDT - 6:30-8:30PM, PDT - 5:30-7:30PM),
which translates as Thursday, July 21st, 0030 to 0230Z in all cases.

For all the "official" information, please go to:

http://www.naqcc.info/sprint201607.html

There you will find all the details as to time, frequencies and other important
information.

Certificates: SWA (simple wire antennas) certificates by call area, VE and DX
for 1st, 2nd and 3rd place finishers (New!). A Certificate for top score in the
GAIN antenna category.

Prizes: Too many to list!! - check out the prizes page on our website.

This is a monthly event that caters to the CW veteran, the CW newcomer, straight
key and bug fans. All are welcome to participate (this includes QRO); but you
must use QRP power levels to compete for awards.

If you've been hesitant to join in our sprints because you hear other sprints
running at breakneck speeds, have no fear. Our sprints are geared to the
newcomer to CW and/or contesting. Virtually everyone including the many veteran
contesters who regularly enter our sprints will slow down to YOUR speed to help
you make your contacts.

If you are not already a member of NAQCC... membership is FREE! Now is your
chance to join the largest QRP CW Club in the world!! We currently have 7100+
members in: All 50 States - 9 VE Provinces - 100 Countries. Sign up on the
NAQCC website today (http://naqcc.info/) and receive a handsome certificate,
with your membership number on it, which is good for life.

Come join us and have a real good time!


72/73 de Larry W2LJ
NAQCC #35

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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

[Charlie T, K3ICH]

Whoa, there are plenty good  "pre-owned" radios out there for WAY under $2k.

An old Swan 350 should run about $150 - $200.  Sure, there's not much in the 
way of Bells & whistles, but the guy on the other end won't know you're not 
running a rig that costs more than a good used car!

Same for a TS-520/530 or TS-820/830, and others in the under $500 range.

If you look at it strictly from a $ & ¢ aspect, buying a 10 to 15 year old 
radio can probably be sold a year later for what you paid for it.

If you want to go a tad newer, TS-480's are going for under $700.

Some good possibilities are:  TS-570, TS-450, IC-746, IC-756, FT-1000MP, 
TS-590, and many others.

The point is, you won’t throw away a starter radio resulting in a 100% loss.  

73, Charlie k3ICH



-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of a45wg
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 2:34 PM
To: Ian 
Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

No !!! Bad sales pitch - How about spend $3k now - or spend $2k now and $3k 
(when you realised you made a mistake) later….. see spending $3k now much much 
cheaper…..

73, tim - A45WG


> On 17 Jul 2016, at 22:24, Ian  wrote:
> 
> Consider getting a lesser radio first and using that for a while.  
> Then you'll really appreciate what a step (leap) up the K3S is over other 
> radios.
> 
> 73, Ian N8IK
> 
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Jim Brown 
> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun,7/17/2016 10:02 AM, Reuben Popp wrote:
>> 
>>> I*will*  get my ticket, it's just a matter of when, so if I'm in for 
>>> a penny on a receiver,
>>> 
>> 
>> So work on that FIRST. At this point, the cart is well before the horse.
>> Hopefully, while studying for your license, you'll learn more about 
>> radio, and be able to make a more informed decision. AND you'll have the 
>> license.
>> 
>> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

[Reuben Popp]

I hear ya... I was in the middle of studying for the general last.  The
tech is.. well, too easy (IMO), so I was going to sit for both tech and
general IF I can actually make it up to St. Louis before sunrise, or if I
can schmooze a few of the local VEs to do a one-off.

As to my K2, I thought about it, but even with the MAB board, the K2 isn't
exactly cut out for data modes.. at least, not very easily.  Unless I'm
completely missing something here.  AM BC bands are so-so in that you get
what's adjacent.  Not knocking my K2.. I _still_ love it, both for what it
is and the fact that it was one of the more fun projects I did while
working on my undergrad in CSc.  I built it with the audio filter module,
the SSB module, and the 160M module.  I did not purchase either antenna
tuner as it's my understanding that a tuner only really helps in TX, not
RX.  And to be frank, all the above was bought using my federal tax return
from my glorious year as a student worker ;).  The only other module I've
thought of adding is the serial port, if only to dig into the code some and
see if I could write some bits for further integration on a linux/BSD
system.

Right now, I'm looking at a budget of ~3500.  In my line of work, OT
doesn't come around much, but when it does, forty hours is a nice treat for
dad, although the XYL has laid claim to the next OT project's funds.



On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Clay Autery  wrote:

> Listen to Phil, Reuben...  wise man; good advice.
>
> Seriously, get your license...  you're missing so much without it...
> Just ain't that hard...  Study up for all three and take them all in one
> day...
>
> Had I NOT been in the middle of a gall bladder attack on test day, I
> would have passed all three at once instead of having to go back for
> Extra...
>
>
> 73,
>
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> MONTAC Enterprises
> (318) 518-1389
>
> On 7/17/2016 6:44 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
> > Reuben,
> >
> > Since you say you have the K2, I'd get your license before adding any
> > new rig and use the K2 to start out. Even without the amp you can run
> > 10 Watts or so and get your feet wet.
> >
> > After you've operated for a while you'll have a better idea of what
> > you want.
> >
> > OTOH, if you plan to operate SSB 100% of the time (I tend to forget CW
> > is no longer required!), then perhaps you should start with a 100 W
> > rig; 10 Watts on SSB might be a bit discouraging on 20 meters
> > particularly with our current band conditions.
> >
> > If you are willing to start with 10 Watts on SSB, then you might be
> > well advised to add the SSB module to your K2 (assuming it has none
> > now) and get your feet wet with the rig you already own vs. buying the
> > 10W K3s immediately.
> >
> > I consider the K3s/100 to be your best choice if money is no issue.
> > Great rig and great support, both from Elecraft and the user base
> > here. But you should start with it minimally configured (e.g., don't
> > add a bunch of roofing filters -- but do add the ATU because you have
> > a G5RV and will need a good tuner).
> >
> > Below you say "In the past week I found out about the Icom 7300, which
> > for all intents and purposes is one heck of a nifty radio too.". While
> > the IC-7300 has some shortcomings it's a good radio that you could
> > probably be satisfied with for years. So that might be a very good
> > option for you as you first get into ham radio.
> >
> > Whatever you decide, give highest priority to getting your license,
> > Reuben. Then you can start having fun :-)
> >
> > 73, Phil W7OX
> >
> > On 7/3/16 2:44 PM, Reuben Popp wrote:
> >> Hey everyone, happy early 4th to you and yours!
> >>
> >> I'm looking for a bit on input here.  I've had my K2 now for quite some
> >> time now; built it myself and love it still to this day.  But, because
> >> every guy and gal needs a new radio every now and then, I've got that
> >> itch.
> >>
> >> I've had my eye on a K3 probably since I first saw the advertisement
> >> in QST
> >> some years back.  I'm not a contester.. heck, I *still* don't have my
> >> ticket, so my main use is SWL and running up and down the bands to
> >> listen
> >> in on some of the nets.  My antenna is just a half size G5RV slung along
> >> the apex of my roof but I've wanted to get my hands on the K3...
> >> that
> >> is until now.
> >>
> >> In the past week I found out about the Icom 7300, which for all
> >> intents and
> >> purposes is one heck of a nifty radio too.  And at $500 less than
> >> what the
> >> 10W K3S.  That's a nice chunk of cheddar in these days and times,
> >> doubly so
> >> as Popp #2 will be arriving here come September (on my birthday no less,
> >> hah).  The downsides are (at least to me) is that there's little in
> >> the way
> >> for adding on new features to the set short of via software updates.
> >> There's no second antenna option, etc, etc.
> >>
> >> Granted, I'm not looking at getting either one anytime in the immediate

[Elecraft] Rose's KX2 cases and covers

[Ken G Kopp]

Thanks to Matt and Madelyn at Elecraft, Rose has now
received the metal work and other parts to assemble an
(empty) KX2 case to use as a manikin for making KX2
cases and covers.  Not much, other than size, changes.

73!

Ken - K0PP
elecraftcov...@gmail.com
Rose:  406-560-3738
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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

[Clay Autery]

Listen to Phil, Reuben...  wise man; good advice.

Seriously, get your license...  you're missing so much without it... 
Just ain't that hard...  Study up for all three and take them all in one
day...

Had I NOT been in the middle of a gall bladder attack on test day, I
would have passed all three at once instead of having to go back for
Extra...


73,

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On 7/17/2016 6:44 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
> Reuben,
>
> Since you say you have the K2, I'd get your license before adding any
> new rig and use the K2 to start out. Even without the amp you can run
> 10 Watts or so and get your feet wet.
>
> After you've operated for a while you'll have a better idea of what
> you want.
>
> OTOH, if you plan to operate SSB 100% of the time (I tend to forget CW
> is no longer required!), then perhaps you should start with a 100 W
> rig; 10 Watts on SSB might be a bit discouraging on 20 meters
> particularly with our current band conditions.
>
> If you are willing to start with 10 Watts on SSB, then you might be
> well advised to add the SSB module to your K2 (assuming it has none
> now) and get your feet wet with the rig you already own vs. buying the
> 10W K3s immediately.
>
> I consider the K3s/100 to be your best choice if money is no issue.
> Great rig and great support, both from Elecraft and the user base
> here. But you should start with it minimally configured (e.g., don't
> add a bunch of roofing filters -- but do add the ATU because you have
> a G5RV and will need a good tuner).
>
> Below you say "In the past week I found out about the Icom 7300, which
> for all intents and purposes is one heck of a nifty radio too.". While
> the IC-7300 has some shortcomings it's a good radio that you could
> probably be satisfied with for years. So that might be a very good
> option for you as you first get into ham radio.
>
> Whatever you decide, give highest priority to getting your license,
> Reuben. Then you can start having fun :-)
>
> 73, Phil W7OX
>
> On 7/3/16 2:44 PM, Reuben Popp wrote:
>> Hey everyone, happy early 4th to you and yours!
>>
>> I'm looking for a bit on input here.  I've had my K2 now for quite some
>> time now; built it myself and love it still to this day.  But, because
>> every guy and gal needs a new radio every now and then, I've got that
>> itch.
>>
>> I've had my eye on a K3 probably since I first saw the advertisement
>> in QST
>> some years back.  I'm not a contester.. heck, I *still* don't have my
>> ticket, so my main use is SWL and running up and down the bands to
>> listen
>> in on some of the nets.  My antenna is just a half size G5RV slung along
>> the apex of my roof but I've wanted to get my hands on the K3...
>> that
>> is until now.
>>
>> In the past week I found out about the Icom 7300, which for all
>> intents and
>> purposes is one heck of a nifty radio too.  And at $500 less than
>> what the
>> 10W K3S.  That's a nice chunk of cheddar in these days and times,
>> doubly so
>> as Popp #2 will be arriving here come September (on my birthday no less,
>> hah).  The downsides are (at least to me) is that there's little in
>> the way
>> for adding on new features to the set short of via software updates.
>> There's no second antenna option, etc, etc.
>>
>> Granted, I'm not looking at getting either one anytime in the immediate
>> future.  Or, if I miraculously get one somehow, something is seriously
>> wrong, and someone has replaced my XYL with the Stepford model... come
>> please make sure I'm okay, lol.  But in all seriousness, help me decide
>> here.  Which is the better bang for the buck in the long run?  I'm
>> willing
>> to bet that this will be the last rig I get for quite some time yet,
>> so I
>> had best make it count.
>>
>> Thanks in advance to all and 73
>> Reuben
>
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[Elecraft] Thanks for all the feedback regarding Winlink & K3.

[Tony Lyon]

Folks,

I appreciate all the feedback that I have received. I am now able to 
link up to Winlink stations


reliably with my K3 and my SCS DR-7400.


73,

Tony L. (KJ5XF)



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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

[Phil Wheeler]

Reuben,

Since you say you have the K2, I'd get your 
license before adding any new rig and use the K2 
to start out. Even without the amp you can run 10 
Watts or so and get your feet wet.


After you've operated for a while you'll have a 
better idea of what you want.


OTOH, if you plan to operate SSB 100% of the time 
(I tend to forget CW is no longer required!), then 
perhaps you should start with a 100 W rig; 10 
Watts on SSB might be a bit discouraging on 20 
meters particularly with our current band conditions.


If you are willing to start with 10 Watts on SSB, 
then you might be well advised to add the SSB 
module to your K2 (assuming it has none now) and 
get your feet wet with the rig you already own vs. 
buying the 10W K3s immediately.


I consider the K3s/100 to be your best choice if 
money is no issue. Great rig and great support, 
both from Elecraft and the user base here. But you 
should start with it minimally configured (e.g., 
don't add a bunch of roofing filters -- but do add 
the ATU because you have a G5RV and will need a 
good tuner).


Below you say "In the past week I found out about 
the Icom 7300, which for all intents and purposes 
is one heck of a nifty radio too.". While the 
IC-7300 has some shortcomings it's a good radio 
that you could probably be satisfied with for 
years. So that might be a very good option for you 
as you first get into ham radio.


Whatever you decide, give highest priority to 
getting your license, Reuben. Then you can start 
having fun :-)


73, Phil W7OX

On 7/3/16 2:44 PM, Reuben Popp wrote:

Hey everyone, happy early 4th to you and yours!

I'm looking for a bit on input here.  I've had my K2 now for quite some
time now; built it myself and love it still to this day.  But, because
every guy and gal needs a new radio every now and then, I've got that itch.

I've had my eye on a K3 probably since I first saw the advertisement in QST
some years back.  I'm not a contester.. heck, I *still* don't have my
ticket, so my main use is SWL and running up and down the bands to listen
in on some of the nets.  My antenna is just a half size G5RV slung along
the apex of my roof but I've wanted to get my hands on the K3... that
is until now.

In the past week I found out about the Icom 7300, which for all intents and
purposes is one heck of a nifty radio too.  And at $500 less than what the
10W K3S.  That's a nice chunk of cheddar in these days and times, doubly so
as Popp #2 will be arriving here come September (on my birthday no less,
hah).  The downsides are (at least to me) is that there's little in the way
for adding on new features to the set short of via software updates.
There's no second antenna option, etc, etc.

Granted, I'm not looking at getting either one anytime in the immediate
future.  Or, if I miraculously get one somehow, something is seriously
wrong, and someone has replaced my XYL with the Stepford model... come
please make sure I'm okay, lol.  But in all seriousness, help me decide
here.  Which is the better bang for the buck in the long run?  I'm willing
to bet that this will be the last rig I get for quite some time yet, so I
had best make it count.

Thanks in advance to all and 73
Reuben


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Re: [Elecraft] [Kx3] [Kx2] Text decode threshold levels

[Nr4c]

My experience with Elecraft text decode is:

 turn on cwt
 tune station carefully, SPOT is your friend here
 set threshold to 2 or 3 and be sure that the bar is flashing in step with the 
code, adjust threshold until it does. 
 if can get above set threshold one higher and reduce RF Gain 

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> On Jul 17, 2016, at 5:25 PM, Hajo Dezelski  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> comparing these two rigs in the mode "text decode" I had the
> impression that the Kx3 did a better job. But this could be triggered
> by different settings.
> 
> Is the software implementation of the thresholds 1-6 when adjusting in
> both rigs identical or do they differ?
> 
> If they differ what would be comparable settings?
> 
> 73 de
> Hajo dl1sdz
> 
> ---
> Cela est bien dit, mais il faut cultiver notre jardin.
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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

[Nr4c]

No!

Get the radio you want and learn to make it work for you. Buying a $2K radio 
and then buying $4-5K radio just adds $2K to the price and wastes  maybe 2 
years in the process. 

Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 17, 2016, at 2:24 PM, Ian  wrote:
> 
> Consider getting a lesser radio first and using that for a while.  Then
> you'll really appreciate what a step (leap) up the K3S is over other radios.
> 
> 73, Ian N8IK
> 
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Jim Brown 
> wrote:
> 
>>> On Sun,7/17/2016 10:02 AM, Reuben Popp wrote:
>>> 
>>> I*will*  get my ticket, it's just a matter of when, so if I'm in for a
>>> penny on a receiver,
>>> 
>> 
>> So work on that FIRST. At this point, the cart is well before the horse.
>> Hopefully, while studying for your license, you'll learn more about radio,
>> and be able to make a more informed decision. AND you'll have the license.
>> 
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>> 
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[Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

[Dauer, Edward]

I agree 100% with Jim (below).  Take all the energy you’re putting into this 
decision and devote it to getting your ticket.  There’ll be plenty left over 
for shopping.

I am not even sure a K3S is the best rig for SWLing.  It very well might be for 
operating as a licensed ham.  Join the club.

Ted, KN1CBR


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Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 10:58:00 -0700
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On Sun,7/17/2016 10:02 AM, Reuben Popp wrote:
> I*will*  get my ticket, it's just a matter of when, so if I'm in for a
> penny on a receiver,

So work on that FIRST. At this point, the cart is well before the horse. 
Hopefully, while studying for your license, you'll learn more about 
radio, and be able to make a more informed decision. AND you'll have the 
license.

73, Jim K9YC




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 power oddity

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Lee - that is true with many radios. The K3/K3S was designed so that ALC
action starts at 8 bars. More info is in the K3S Owner's manual under "Mic
Gain and Compression Settings" on page 30. 

73, Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Leroy
Buller
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 1:04 PM
To: donw...@embarqmail.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 power oddity

Don...

Thanks for the information. I will check that out.  I was told a long time
ago by that elusive "someone" to keep the K3 linear that the ALC meter
should just flicker.  Obviously, that was bogus advice.  I  will check this
out yet today.

Thanks

Lee


On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Lee (and others)
>
> It is normal for the power control circuits to be reset after a band 
> change.  That prevents overshoot if you are driving an amplifier.
> Normally the power will come up to the requested power level in a 
> couple dot times on CW, or several syllables when operating voice.
>
> If the problem is on voice or data, make sure you are driving the 
> audio sufficiently.  If you are not driving the K3 audio hard enough, 
> power control will be "flaky".
>
> For Voice: With the compression set to zero, you should produce 5 to 7 
> bars on the ALC meter.  After adjusting the mic gain for that 
> indication, increase the compression as you choose - normally I would 
> suggest compression of less than 10dB.
>
> For RTTY, if you are using FSK D mode, the power control should be 
> automatic, but if you are using AFSK A (or other soundcard data 
> modes), then do check your audio drive - of course compression should 
> be set to zero, but the audio drive should drive the ALC meter to 4 
> bars solid with the 5th bar flashing.
>
> Note that the K3 controls power differently than other transceivers.
> Ignore the advice on the internet to show no ALC and adjust the power 
> with the audio level.
> With the K3 (and K3S, KX3, KX2), the "ALC" meter is a combination "VU"
> meter and ALC meter.  The 1st 4 bars are there to help you adjust the 
> audio level.  The onset of ALC is indicated by the 5th bar.  So 4 bars 
> solid and 5th bar flickering is the "no ALC" point for the K3.
> In data modes, adjust the power with the Power knob, not the audio level.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 7/17/2016 8:38 AM, Leroy Buller wrote:
>
>> Operated RTTY NAQP this weekend.   When changing bands, I noticed my
power
>> would drop to 40 watts or so.  After several transmissions, it would rise
>> to 100 watts.  I don't think this is normal.   All antennas are matched.
>> Comments?
>>
>>
>>
>
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[Elecraft] Fwd: Help sell me on the K3S

[Reuben Popp]

These days and times, yes... back when I bought the first one it was $300
from Fair Radio.  I paid more for the CY-979A cabinets, the CV-591A SSB
converter and the accompanying LS-206U.  That said, it took a fair chunk
o'change to get the radio back into shape.  Spare modules in good working
condition are not cheap and not getting any cheaper the longer one waits.
Anyway, the point was when I started down that path I was in the process of
building my K2/10..  I wouldn't get rid of either to fund the purchase of
the other, at least, not at this point.

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Alan Bloom  wrote:

> On 07/17/2016 12:30 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
>
> If one can hear why an R390
>> is a great RX of the era, a low end Icom will not satisfy. For someone
>> who can hear R390 tubes getting soupy, a Flex 6700, an Icom 7851 and a
>> K3 do things right that CAN be heard if you know what to listen for.
>>
>> Flex 6700  $7499
>> Icom 7851  $13099
>> Field upgradeable basic K3S/10 kit $2099
>>
>
> Collins R390A $1500
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Collins-Designed-R-390A-Made-by-Electronic-Assistance-Corporation-/252419777443?hash=item3ac56423a3:g:h9cAAOSwuhhXWhyB
>
> :=)
>
> Alan N1AL
>
>
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[Elecraft] [Kx3] [Kx2] Text decode threshold levels

[Hajo Dezelski]

Hello,

comparing these two rigs in the mode "text decode" I had the
impression that the Kx3 did a better job. But this could be triggered
by different settings.

Is the software implementation of the thresholds 1-6 when adjusting in
both rigs identical or do they differ?

If they differ what would be comparable settings?

73 de
Hajo dl1sdz

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[Elecraft] 6 Meter Antenna

[John Hendricks]

After getting several direct inquiries about adding 6 meters to a tribander
I decided to post for everyone to see.  The best link is to use DX
Engineering (you don't have to be a ARRL member) and look for the QST
article from September 2011 titled "Add 6 Meters to Your Triband Trap
Yagi".  I added only two elements, because I had all the parts in my junk
box, so my measurements were a little different from the artical, but it
worked great on my very old Mosley tribander.

John K7JLT
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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

[Alan Bloom]

On 07/17/2016 12:30 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:


If one can hear why an R390
is a great RX of the era, a low end Icom will not satisfy. For someone
who can hear R390 tubes getting soupy, a Flex 6700, an Icom 7851 and a
K3 do things right that CAN be heard if you know what to listen for.

Flex 6700  $7499
Icom 7851  $13099
Field upgradeable basic K3S/10 kit $2099


Collins R390A $1500

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Collins-Designed-R-390A-Made-by-Electronic-Assistance-Corporation-/252419777443?hash=item3ac56423a3:g:h9cAAOSwuhhXWhyB

:=)

Alan N1AL


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[Elecraft] KX2

[Andy Clift]

First thanks for all the responses (especially those that managed to avoid the 
far more interesting topic of antennas and tried to answer my query ).
Apologies I realised my mistake as soon as i re-read my original - I did of 
course mean an end fed wire not EFHW! That's why I had to tune it. I'm pretty 
certain the problem doesn't lie with the antenna as it works fine with other 
equipment. I'll contact Elecraft direct to see if they can offer any advice. 
The settings on my KX2 all look ok. Yes it was the Gemsproducts panels I fitted.
73

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[Elecraft] Fwd: Topband: 160m arrival angles

[Wes Stewart]

Considering the previous thread, "Sloping Terrain vs Feedline Losses", I thought 
this might be of interest.




 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Topband: 160m arrival angles
Date:   Sun, 17 Jul 2016 15:00:17 -0400
From:   Carl Luetzelschwab 
To: topb...@contesting.com



BIll (AA7XT),

There's some (but not much) measured data at HF of arriving elevation
angles (for example, Wilkins et al, Epstein et al, Utlaut et al,
Wilkins again et al, and Hallborg et al).

But I've never seen any measurements at MF. The only paper that comes
close (at least that I'm aware of) is by LaBelle. He measured arriving
polarization from 50 KHz to 5 MHz.

The only thing I can add are results of doing ray traces of the
ordinary wave (the extraordinary wave is heavily attenuated on 1.8
MHz) with electron-neutral collisions and the magnetic field included.
There appears to be three ranges of angles for propagation on
160-Meters at night. Low angles (roughly 0 to 15 degrees) give E hops.
Medium angles (roughly 15 to 20 degrees) can give ducting. Higher
angles (roughly above 20 degrees) give F hops. Whether ducting on
160-Meters occurs likely depends on the factors tied to the magnetic
field.

For a picture of these ray trace results, go to http://k9la.us. Click
on the "160m" link on the left, and look at the "ray tracing on 160m"
file at the top.

As for E hops, it's tough for most of us to put lots of energy at very
low elevation angles - but guys like VE1ZZ with take-offs over salt
water may be able to take advantage of these very low angles.

Carl K9LA
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 power oddity

[Leroy Buller]

Don...

Thanks for the information. I will check that out.  I was told a long time
ago by that elusive "someone" to keep the K3 linear that the ALC meter
should just flicker.  Obviously, that was bogus advice.  I  will check this
out yet today.

Thanks

Lee


On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Lee (and others)
>
> It is normal for the power control circuits to be reset after a band
> change.  That prevents overshoot if you are driving an amplifier.
> Normally the power will come up to the requested power level in a couple
> dot times on CW, or several syllables when operating voice.
>
> If the problem is on voice or data, make sure you are driving the audio
> sufficiently.  If you are not driving the K3 audio hard enough, power
> control will be "flaky".
>
> For Voice: With the compression set to zero, you should produce 5 to 7
> bars on the ALC meter.  After adjusting the mic gain for that indication,
> increase the compression as you choose - normally I would suggest
> compression of less than 10dB.
>
> For RTTY, if you are using FSK D mode, the power control should be
> automatic, but if you are using AFSK A (or other soundcard data modes),
> then do check your audio drive - of course compression should be set to
> zero, but the audio drive should drive the ALC meter to 4 bars solid with
> the 5th bar flashing.
>
> Note that the K3 controls power differently than other transceivers.
> Ignore the advice on the internet to show no ALC and adjust the power with
> the audio level.
> With the K3 (and K3S, KX3, KX2), the "ALC" meter is a combination "VU"
> meter and ALC meter.  The 1st 4 bars are there to help you adjust the audio
> level.  The onset of ALC is indicated by the 5th bar.  So 4 bars solid and
> 5th bar flickering is the "no ALC" point for the K3.
> In data modes, adjust the power with the Power knob, not the audio level.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 7/17/2016 8:38 AM, Leroy Buller wrote:
>
>> Operated RTTY NAQP this weekend.   When changing bands, I noticed my power
>> would drop to 40 watts or so.  After several transmissions, it would rise
>> to 100 watts.  I don't think this is normal.   All antennas are matched.
>> Comments?
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 K144XV for sale

[Jeff Griffin]

I forgot to mention that it is the module  for the 100 watt K3. I also have
the FM/AM filter, KFL3B-FM available separately for $90 shipped, or included
for $80...

I have a little used K144XV 2m internal module for sale. It is working
perfectly, I just never use it and as I have my K3 apart doing the K3s
upgrades I decided it's a good time to offer it for sale. $275.00 shipped,
insured US. I will also ship overseas, pre-paid, shipping actual additional
cost. I will out of convience, also include the KREF3MDKT mod in the sale.

 

73 Jeff kb2m 


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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

If I had a dollar for every time I dreamed beyond my present reach,
I'd be rich now. Dreaming out loud on a ham reflector before license
obtained is just a modern retread of an ancient pastime.

For someone who has high end boat anchor RX in his house, a rig with
an inferior RX will be readily apparent. If one can hear why an R390
is a great RX of the era, a low end Icom will not satisfy. For someone
who can hear R390 tubes getting soupy, a Flex 6700, an Icom 7851 and a
K3 do things right that CAN be heard if you know what to listen for.

Flex 6700  $7499
Icom 7851  $13099
Field upgradeable basic K3S/10 kit $2099

Of course if $2k is six months of spare money, a little more dicey.

But dreaming beyond your current reach ain't bad

73, Guy K2AV

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Clay Autery  wrote:
> Roger that!  Buy the best tool you can afford and never have to buy
> again is what my Dad taught me 40+ years ago
>
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> On 7/17/2016 1:34 PM, a45wg wrote:
>> No !!! Bad sales pitch - How about spend $3k now - or spend $2k now and $3k 
>> (when you realised you made a mistake) later….. see spending $3k now much 
>> much cheaper…..
>>
>> 73, tim - A45WG
>>
>>
>>> On 17 Jul 2016, at 22:24, Ian  wrote:
>>>
>>> Consider getting a lesser radio first and using that for a while.  Then
>>> you'll really appreciate what a step (leap) up the K3S is over other radios.
>>>
>>> 73, Ian N8IK
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Jim Brown 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 On Sun,7/17/2016 10:02 AM, Reuben Popp wrote:

> I*will*  get my ticket, it's just a matter of when, so if I'm in for a
> penny on a receiver,
>
 So work on that FIRST. At this point, the cart is well before the horse.
 Hopefully, while studying for your license, you'll learn more about radio,
 and be able to make a more informed decision. AND you'll have the license.

 73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

[Bob Novas]

meh.  Buy the HF tool and if you use it and it breaks, buy the Snap-On variant.

> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Clay
> Autery
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 2:58 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S
> 
> Roger that!  Buy the best tool you can afford and never have to buy again is
> what my Dad taught me 40+ years ago
> 
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> MONTAC Enterprises
> (318) 518-1389
> 
> On 7/17/2016 1:34 PM, a45wg wrote:
> > No !!! Bad sales pitch - How about spend $3k now - or spend $2k now and $3k
> (when you realised you made a mistake) later….. see spending $3k now much
> much cheaper…..
> >
> > 73, tim - A45WG
> >
> >
> >> On 17 Jul 2016, at 22:24, Ian  wrote:
> >>
> >> Consider getting a lesser radio first and using that for a while.
> >> Then you'll really appreciate what a step (leap) up the K3S is over other
> radios.
> >>
> >> 73, Ian N8IK
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Jim Brown
> >> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sun,7/17/2016 10:02 AM, Reuben Popp wrote:
> >>>
>  I*will*  get my ticket, it's just a matter of when, so if I'm in
>  for a penny on a receiver,
> 
> >>> So work on that FIRST. At this point, the cart is well before the horse.
> >>> Hopefully, while studying for your license, you'll learn more about
> >>> radio, and be able to make a more informed decision. AND you'll have the
> license.
> >>>
> >>> 73, Jim K9YC
> >>>
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[Elecraft] K-Pod Usability

[Ed Muns]

The K-Pod really enhanced my SO2V operation in the NAQP RTTY contest last
night.  While running on VFO-A, I used the K-Pod predominantly for VFO-B to
tune the band, using the P3 as guidance, for finding other CQing stations to
work.  Overall, I felt I did a far better job (faster and more thorough)
using the K-Pod instead of the normal VFO-B knob.

(For SO2V, another configuration is to run on VFO-B so that S is done on
VFO-A.  While this has the advantage of a larger tuning knob, it still
requires the hand to reach over the keyboard.)

First, it was much easier to simultaneously tune VFO-B with the K-Pod next
to my keyboard so that my hand could more easily move between it and the
keyboard as needed.  Of course, with my RTTY contest configuration, I seldom
need both hands on the keyboard.  Nearly all keyboard usage is simply
tapping keys to which messages are mapped, so one hand is sufficient.  (This
also makes SO2R RTTY easier than CW and SSB where more touch typing is
needed.)  RTTY callsigns are grabbed automatically without typing them.

I used to reach for the VFO-B knob on the K3 front panel which worked fine
but is much more awkward and time consuming than using the K-Pod next to the
keyboard.  It is easier to fine tune with the K-Pod than the normal VFO-B
knob, reaching over the keyboard with my hand suspended in mid-air.

Second, the rocker switch beneath the K-Pod tuning knob is ergonomically
excellent.  When a station would call me offset from my VFO-A frequency, I
simply used my thumb to temporarily define the K-Pod knob for RIT, zero-beat
the calling station, then move the rocker switch back to VFO-B, all while my
hand was still near the keyboard with minimal movement.  Since my QSL
message clears the RIT offset, I was ready for the next caller, hopefully
closer to zero-beat.  I also have one of the K-Pod buttons programmed to
clear the offset when needed, so again not having to reach over the keyboard
to press CLR on the K3 front panel.

The K-Pod is capable of much, much more functionality, but it is first
important that it perform basic functions like these in a significantly
better way than the radio front panel.  That's what I experienced!

Ed W0YK

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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

[Clay Autery]

Roger that!  Buy the best tool you can afford and never have to buy
again is what my Dad taught me 40+ years ago

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On 7/17/2016 1:34 PM, a45wg wrote:
> No !!! Bad sales pitch - How about spend $3k now - or spend $2k now and $3k 
> (when you realised you made a mistake) later….. see spending $3k now much 
> much cheaper…..
>
> 73, tim - A45WG
>
>
>> On 17 Jul 2016, at 22:24, Ian  wrote:
>>
>> Consider getting a lesser radio first and using that for a while.  Then
>> you'll really appreciate what a step (leap) up the K3S is over other radios.
>>
>> 73, Ian N8IK
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Jim Brown 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun,7/17/2016 10:02 AM, Reuben Popp wrote:
>>>
 I*will*  get my ticket, it's just a matter of when, so if I'm in for a
 penny on a receiver,

>>> So work on that FIRST. At this point, the cart is well before the horse.
>>> Hopefully, while studying for your license, you'll learn more about radio,
>>> and be able to make a more informed decision. AND you'll have the license.
>>>
>>> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

[a45wg]

No !!! Bad sales pitch - How about spend $3k now - or spend $2k now and $3k 
(when you realised you made a mistake) later….. see spending $3k now much much 
cheaper…..

73, tim - A45WG


> On 17 Jul 2016, at 22:24, Ian  wrote:
> 
> Consider getting a lesser radio first and using that for a while.  Then
> you'll really appreciate what a step (leap) up the K3S is over other radios.
> 
> 73, Ian N8IK
> 
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Jim Brown 
> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun,7/17/2016 10:02 AM, Reuben Popp wrote:
>> 
>>> I*will*  get my ticket, it's just a matter of when, so if I'm in for a
>>> penny on a receiver,
>>> 
>> 
>> So work on that FIRST. At this point, the cart is well before the horse.
>> Hopefully, while studying for your license, you'll learn more about radio,
>> and be able to make a more informed decision. AND you'll have the license.
>> 
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>> 
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

[kev...@coho.net]

Hello,

The sun has repopulated with a few large spots, some of them 
active.  While the summer noise is still audible there are more signals 
than there have been for over a week.  I'll check each net against the 
reverse beacon net to see where my signal lands.  Lately I've been 
covering the East Coast much better than I have been covering the 
heartland; it seems everything was long.  Maybe this week will be better.


   While the sun may be more active it is still cold and wet here.  The 
dry season is late this year.


Please join us on:
14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
 7045 kHz at 0100z Monday (6 PM PDT Sunday)

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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

[Ian]

Consider getting a lesser radio first and using that for a while.  Then
you'll really appreciate what a step (leap) up the K3S is over other radios.

73, Ian N8IK

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Jim Brown 
wrote:

> On Sun,7/17/2016 10:02 AM, Reuben Popp wrote:
>
>> I*will*  get my ticket, it's just a matter of when, so if I'm in for a
>> penny on a receiver,
>>
>
> So work on that FIRST. At this point, the cart is well before the horse.
> Hopefully, while studying for your license, you'll learn more about radio,
> and be able to make a more informed decision. AND you'll have the license.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

[Jim Brown]

On Sun,7/17/2016 10:02 AM, Reuben Popp wrote:

I*will*  get my ticket, it's just a matter of when, so if I'm in for a
penny on a receiver,


So work on that FIRST. At this point, the cart is well before the horse. 
Hopefully, while studying for your license, you'll learn more about 
radio, and be able to make a more informed decision. AND you'll have the 
license.


73, Jim K9YC

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[Elecraft] KP500 Display

['DGB']

My KPA started having a problem with it's display. The lettering 
sometimes displays abt. 1/2, sometime not at all, but the backlight 
always lights. Sometimes it's fine.


What do I look for before taking it apart. Wouldn't surprise me if it's 
some connector problem.


TIA 73 Dwight NS9I

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Re: [Elecraft] Failed K3 Firmware update DSP1

[Matthew Lawson]

I have the current one only (1.16.6.25). I don't have any older files. just
what I have been able to download lately.

*Matthew Lawson*
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On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Nr4c  wrote:

> Do you have the last utility?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
> > On Jul 17, 2016, at 3:58 AM, Matthew Lawson  wrote:
> >
> > Please help, went to update my K3 to the latest Firmware (was running
> 2.19)
> > all updated fine until DSP1.
> >
> > 00:33:01 Loaded DSP1 firmware revision 02.86
> > K3 responded with revision ??.??
> > 00:33:01 DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
> > 00:33:01 Error code 0xE246: Revision number verification failed
> > 00:33:01 DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
> > 00:33:01 Click "Close" to close this window
> >
> > More detailed verbose:
> >
> > LoadDspDataTableState Response "A"   0 ms
> > ResetMcuState Send "LDD2;"
> > Waiting 6 seconds for reset to complete
> > ResetMcuState Response "A"  15 ms
> > ResetMcuState Timer Elapsed 5500 ms
> > DetermineSpeedState Send ";"
> > DetermineSpeedState Response ";"  15 ms
> > QueryMainDspRevisionState Send "RVD;"
> > QueryMainDspRevisionState Response "RVD00.00;"  16 ms
> > Loaded DSP1 firmware revision 02.86
> > K3 responded with revision ??.??
> > DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
> > Error code 0xE246: Revision number verification failed
> > DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
> > Click "Close" to close this window
> >
> > Computer I am using has hardware RS232 ports, two of them, and I have
> tried
> > either one with the same results. I am using the latest K3 Utility
> > 1.16.6.25.
> > My K3's serial number is 01341.
> > Everything seems to load fine but fails the DSP1.
> >
> > I have tried reloading and re-downloading, rebooting, both computer and
> K3.
> >
> > I also looked into downgrading to an older firmware, but I can not find
> an
> > older archive that goes back far enough to my working configuration,
> 2.19.
> >
> > I did try what was archived and got the same results. (ftp directory)
> >
> > Please help. I also searched the forums with no avail. most were USB
> > adapter problems.
> >
> > 73
> >
> >
> > This has rendered my K3 useless.
> >
> > *Matthew Lawson*
> > *KC7EQO*
> > *442.100 + 100 Hz PL Blyn Mt Repeater*
> >
> >
> > *http://www.qrz.com/db/KC7EQO/R *
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[Elecraft] K3 K144XV for sale

[Jeff Griffin]

I have a little used K144XV 2m internal module for sale. It is working
perfectly, I just never use it and as I have my K3 apart doing the K3s
upgrades I decided it's a good time to offer it for sale. $275.00 shipped,
insured US. I will also ship overseas, pre-paid, shipping actual additional
cost. I will out of convience, also include the KREF3MDKT mod in the sale.

 

73 Jeff kb2m73 Jeff kb2m

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Got the gear, need the garb!

[Jim Miller]

Thanks for all the leads.

73

jim ab3cv

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Jim Miller  wrote:

> Where do I order Elecraft shirts and hats?
>
> Can't find any on their website.
>
> 73
>
> Jim ab3cv
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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

[Clay Autery]

Figure out your MAX budget for initial purchase...

Are you comfortable with a no solder assembly?

Buy a K3s and a P3...

Using your budget as a guide, put everything you can in the K3s first
(except the sub-receiver... that can wait)
Just use the 2.7 5 pole stock filter for now...
Add a 6kHz AM filter IF you get the General Coverage board so you can
hear AM radio stations well.

Stop adding things when the budget is topped...

Bottom Line...  just get the K3s/P3 and stop agonizing over it.  You
won't be sorry...

LOVE my (growing) K-Line!

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On 7/17/2016 12:02 PM, Reuben Popp wrote:
> I'm curious to see/hear what the breakdown on primary operating mode for
> most K3S users is:  voice, cw, data, [like me, just] swl... mixed?  How
> many use it strictly for contesting, and how many use it as their "daily
> driver"?
>
> The KX{2,3} is appealing as well, but as nice as they are, they don't offer
> me an upgrade path, or rather, it's limited, and there's no general
> coverage module; signal reception is (from what I understand) similar to
> the K2 in that regard.  Portable, yes, and quite possibly lower down on the
> list, but not something I want or need immediately.
>
> I figured that I can get a K3S/10 with the K3 Panadapter, the general
> coverage module, the 2.8Khz filter,  and the SVGA kit for the P3 for
> ~3400... the approximate cost (or a little under) for a used IC7700 or a
> FTDX5000.  Argh, choices!!
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

[Reuben Popp]

I want to express my thanks to all who replied to my original question; my
apologies in the slow response.. It's been a nutty two weeks and I wanted
to take a bit of time to mull things over and do some more research.  With
that in mind... my head hurts .  I've read reviews, looked at specs, and
pretended I knew an ounce of what the Sherwood Engineering lab reports
actually are indicating and/or mean and watched a few [nonstop] days worth
of Youtube videos on various rigs.  Needless to say, I'm in over my head a
bit.

I'm curious to see/hear what the breakdown on primary operating mode for
most K3S users is:  voice, cw, data, [like me, just] swl... mixed?  How
many use it strictly for contesting, and how many use it as their "daily
driver"?

The higher-end SDR is an option I suppose, but I already have too many
receivers as it is.  Two R-390A's, three SP-600 variants, two BC-348s and
in the garage two R-1051-B sets.  Yes, I might have neglected to mention
before that when I first got into the hobby I was instantly drawn to the
boatanchor camp (having been in the Navy myself some years ago).  Needless
to say, my K2/10 is the smallest, and most definitely, _lightest_ radio I
own.  This coming from the guy who moved most of these into storage in the
past two weeks to make room for the baby boy arriving in nine weeks.  Yes,
my back is still recuperating, but my chiropractor?  She loves me.  ;).

I *will* get my ticket, it's just a matter of when, so if I'm in for a
penny on a receiver, I'm in for a pound and I might as well get a
transceiver.  I can never seem to make it out of the house early enough for
the tests, most (if not all) of which are scheduled at some ungodly hour of
the morning, usually long before even the birds start waking.  Okay, maybe
not that early, but it sure seems awfully close...  Either way, that puts
the kabosh (for a bit at least) on contesting, let alone ragchewing.

The KX{2,3} is appealing as well, but as nice as they are, they don't offer
me an upgrade path, or rather, it's limited, and there's no general
coverage module; signal reception is (from what I understand) similar to
the K2 in that regard.  Portable, yes, and quite possibly lower down on the
list, but not something I want or need immediately.

I figured that I can get a K3S/10 with the K3 Panadapter, the general
coverage module, the 2.8Khz filter,  and the SVGA kit for the P3 for
~3400... the approximate cost (or a little under) for a used IC7700 or a
FTDX5000.  Argh, choices!!

Thanks again to all and 73
Reuben




On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Reuben Popp  wrote:

> Hey everyone, happy early 4th to you and yours!
>
> I'm looking for a bit on input here.  I've had my K2 now for quite some
> time now; built it myself and love it still to this day.  But, because
> every guy and gal needs a new radio every now and then, I've got that itch.
>
> I've had my eye on a K3 probably since I first saw the advertisement in
> QST some years back.  I'm not a contester.. heck, I *still* don't have my
> ticket, so my main use is SWL and running up and down the bands to listen
> in on some of the nets.  My antenna is just a half size G5RV slung along
> the apex of my roof but I've wanted to get my hands on the K3... that
> is until now.
>
> In the past week I found out about the Icom 7300, which for all intents
> and purposes is one heck of a nifty radio too.  And at $500 less than what
> the 10W K3S.  That's a nice chunk of cheddar in these days and times,
> doubly so as Popp #2 will be arriving here come September (on my birthday
> no less, hah).  The downsides are (at least to me) is that there's little
> in the way for adding on new features to the set short of via software
> updates.  There's no second antenna option, etc, etc.
>
> Granted, I'm not looking at getting either one anytime in the immediate
> future.  Or, if I miraculously get one somehow, something is seriously
> wrong, and someone has replaced my XYL with the Stepford model... come
> please make sure I'm okay, lol.  But in all seriousness, help me decide
> here.  Which is the better bang for the buck in the long run?  I'm willing
> to bet that this will be the last rig I get for quite some time yet, so I
> had best make it count.
>
> Thanks in advance to all and 73
> Reuben
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Failed K3 Firmware update DSP1

[Nr4c]

Do you have the last utility?

Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 17, 2016, at 3:58 AM, Matthew Lawson  wrote:
> 
> Please help, went to update my K3 to the latest Firmware (was running 2.19)
> all updated fine until DSP1.
> 
> 00:33:01 Loaded DSP1 firmware revision 02.86
> K3 responded with revision ??.??
> 00:33:01 DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
> 00:33:01 Error code 0xE246: Revision number verification failed
> 00:33:01 DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
> 00:33:01 Click "Close" to close this window
> 
> More detailed verbose:
> 
> LoadDspDataTableState Response "A"   0 ms
> ResetMcuState Send "LDD2;"
> Waiting 6 seconds for reset to complete
> ResetMcuState Response "A"  15 ms
> ResetMcuState Timer Elapsed 5500 ms
> DetermineSpeedState Send ";"
> DetermineSpeedState Response ";"  15 ms
> QueryMainDspRevisionState Send "RVD;"
> QueryMainDspRevisionState Response "RVD00.00;"  16 ms
> Loaded DSP1 firmware revision 02.86
> K3 responded with revision ??.??
> DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
> Error code 0xE246: Revision number verification failed
> DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
> Click "Close" to close this window
> 
> Computer I am using has hardware RS232 ports, two of them, and I have tried
> either one with the same results. I am using the latest K3 Utility
> 1.16.6.25.
> My K3's serial number is 01341.
> Everything seems to load fine but fails the DSP1.
> 
> I have tried reloading and re-downloading, rebooting, both computer and K3.
> 
> I also looked into downgrading to an older firmware, but I can not find an
> older archive that goes back far enough to my working configuration, 2.19.
> 
> I did try what was archived and got the same results. (ftp directory)
> 
> Please help. I also searched the forums with no avail. most were USB
> adapter problems.
> 
> 73
> 
> 
> This has rendered my K3 useless.
> 
> *Matthew Lawson*
> *KC7EQO*
> *442.100 + 100 Hz PL Blyn Mt Repeater*
> 
> 
> *http://www.qrz.com/db/KC7EQO/R *
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Re: [Elecraft] Follow-Up: Adafruit Mini Wireless Keyboard

[Bob N3MNT]

The recently released firmware  beta 1.45 now offers a second option for the
insert function therefore the lack of an insert key is no longer an issue. 
Note: there is a minor bug in beta 1.45 which looks like it should be
corrected this week.




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 power oddity

[George Kidder]

Thanks Don for the explanation of what is going on with the "ALC" meter.

I have two suggestions relative to using my K3/100.  The first is a 
suggestion I made by email some years ago, with no reply.  When changing 
from "Spkr + Phones" to "Phones" ( that is, spkr off) I need differing 
audio levels due to the different efficiencies of the speakers and 
phones.  So I crank up the gain on when using phones.  So far so good.  
BUT; the monitor level remains constant, and changing that is a 
different process.  I'm sure that for some, having the two audio levels 
independent is a good thing - for me, it wold be nice to link them.  
Could a menu option be constructed which would allow for linking monitor 
and receiver audio?


My second problem is that when running CW or SSB, I like to use full 
power  (100 W).  On digital modes or FM, it seems prudent to limit the 
rig to 50 W.  The power level is currently saved "per band" - cold it be 
saved "per mode" as well?  This would save a lot of "oops" time.


Or maybe these functions are already available and I just haven't found 
them!


George, W3HBM. Bar Harbor, ME


On 7/17/2016 9:19 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Lee (and others)

It is normal for the power control circuits to be reset after a band 
change.  That prevents overshoot if you are driving an amplifier.
Normally the power will come up to the requested power level in a 
couple dot times on CW, or several syllables when operating voice.


If the problem is on voice or data, make sure you are driving the 
audio sufficiently.  If you are not driving the K3 audio hard enough, 
power control will be "flaky".


For Voice: With the compression set to zero, you should produce 5 to 7 
bars on the ALC meter.  After adjusting the mic gain for that 
indication, increase the compression as you choose - normally I would 
suggest compression of less than 10dB.


For RTTY, if you are using FSK D mode, the power control should be 
automatic, but if you are using AFSK A (or other soundcard data 
modes), then do check your audio drive - of course compression should 
be set to zero, but the audio drive should drive the ALC meter to 4 
bars solid with the 5th bar flashing.


Note that the K3 controls power differently than other transceivers.  
Ignore the advice on the internet to show no ALC and adjust the power 
with the audio level.
With the K3 (and K3S, KX3, KX2), the "ALC" meter is a combination "VU" 
meter and ALC meter.  The 1st 4 bars are there to help you adjust the 
audio level.  The onset of ALC is indicated by the 5th bar.  So 4 bars 
solid and 5th bar flickering is the "no ALC" point for the K3.

In data modes, adjust the power with the Power knob, not the audio level.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/17/2016 8:38 AM, Leroy Buller wrote:
Operated RTTY NAQP this weekend.   When changing bands, I noticed my 
power
would drop to 40 watts or so.  After several transmissions, it would 
rise

to 100 watts.  I don't think this is normal.   All antennas are matched.
Comments?




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 power oddity

[Mike Murray]

Thanks Don! I suspected as much, but a little disconcerting first time
around.

Mike - W0AG

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Lee (and others)
>
> It is normal for the power control circuits to be reset after a band
> change.  That prevents overshoot if you are driving an amplifier.
> Normally the power will come up to the requested power level in a couple
> dot times on CW, or several syllables when operating voice.
>
>>
>>
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[Elecraft] Follow-Up: Adafruit Mini Wireless Keyboard

[Joel Black]

I suspected this was indeed a 2.4 GHz keyboard. After contacting the seller, 
they confirmed it.

Noting the lack of an INSERT key (thanks Joe, KF5WBO), I think I will go ahead 
and order it to pair with my PX3. Don, I appreciate the wired keyboard advice 
but I’m not sure that will lend itself well to how I want to lay out my 
operating position once it’s finished.

Thanks,
Joel - W4JBB

> On Jul 11, 2016, at 05:38, Joel Black  wrote:
> 
> Wondering if anyone has tried this mini wireless keyboard with their PX3:
> 
> https://www.adafruit.com/products/1737?gclid=Cj0KEQjwh428BRCnvcyI-5nqjY4BEiQAijebws3eF9yt7A1so9Xw44_K2fCnlGD2uOQ6gPBS8FtpPMoaAgfi8P8HAQ
>  
> 
> 
> Yes, I know there is a list on Elecraft’s website, but it is not all 
> inclusive and does not seem to include many “mini” wireless keyboards.
> 
> Thanks,
> Joel - W4JBB

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 power oddity

[Don Wilhelm]

Lee (and others)

It is normal for the power control circuits to be reset after a band 
change.  That prevents overshoot if you are driving an amplifier.
Normally the power will come up to the requested power level in a couple 
dot times on CW, or several syllables when operating voice.


If the problem is on voice or data, make sure you are driving the audio 
sufficiently.  If you are not driving the K3 audio hard enough, power 
control will be "flaky".


For Voice: With the compression set to zero, you should produce 5 to 7 
bars on the ALC meter.  After adjusting the mic gain for that 
indication, increase the compression as you choose - normally I would 
suggest compression of less than 10dB.


For RTTY, if you are using FSK D mode, the power control should be 
automatic, but if you are using AFSK A (or other soundcard data modes), 
then do check your audio drive - of course compression should be set to 
zero, but the audio drive should drive the ALC meter to 4 bars solid 
with the 5th bar flashing.


Note that the K3 controls power differently than other transceivers.  
Ignore the advice on the internet to show no ALC and adjust the power 
with the audio level.
With the K3 (and K3S, KX3, KX2), the "ALC" meter is a combination "VU" 
meter and ALC meter.  The 1st 4 bars are there to help you adjust the 
audio level.  The onset of ALC is indicated by the 5th bar.  So 4 bars 
solid and 5th bar flickering is the "no ALC" point for the K3.

In data modes, adjust the power with the Power knob, not the audio level.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/17/2016 8:38 AM, Leroy Buller wrote:

Operated RTTY NAQP this weekend.   When changing bands, I noticed my power
would drop to 40 watts or so.  After several transmissions, it would rise
to 100 watts.  I don't think this is normal.   All antennas are matched.
Comments?




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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] "GT" Command

[Joel Black]

Bob,

After experimenting with my macros, you are correct. The first command in my 
macro string is MD6; and AGC is off after that. Just issuing MD6; in the KX3 
Utility turns off AGC. To turn it back on, I put GT004; into the next macro 
string which turns AGC-S on.

Actually, just setting MD2; turns AGC back on either FAST or SLOW depending on 
the last known setting which means I can just take GT004; out of my second 
macro string.

Thanks,
Joel - W4JBB

> On Jul 15, 2016, at 20:44, Bob N3MNT  wrote:
> 
> If I remember correctly, AGC is set to off automatically in data modes.
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 power oddity

[David Anderson via Elecraft]

Have you got enough audio level going in to drive the ALC meter up to 4.5 bars?

73 from David GM4JJJ

> On 17 Jul 2016, at 13:38, Leroy Buller  wrote:
> 
> Operated RTTY NAQP this weekend.   When changing bands, I noticed my power
> would drop to 40 watts or so.  After several transmissions, it would rise
> to 100 watts.  I don't think this is normal.   All antennas are matched.
> Comments?
> 
> Lee
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 power oddity

[Mike Murray]

I noticed the same thing with my K3.  I tried reconfiguring the sound setup
(I'm using AFSK) thinking that I had screwed something up, but still did
the same thing.

Mike W0AG

On Jul 17, 2016 7:39 AM, "Leroy Buller"  wrote:

> Operated RTTY NAQP this weekend.   When changing bands, I noticed my power
> would drop to 40 watts or so.  After several transmissions, it would rise
> to 100 watts.  I don't think this is normal.   All antennas are matched.
> Comments?
>
> Lee
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Re: [Elecraft] A955 = λ

[Andy McMullin]

But much better advice from Knut. 

Wonderful if you're in the limited group of Word users under Windows. Not so 
useful for the much larger group of email users on every platform. 

Sorry if there are any typos,
this is sent from my iPad
Andy

> On 17 Jul 2016, at 12:33, Alan Slusher  wrote:
> 
> Good advice from Charlie, K3ICH.
> 
> Check the following website:
> www.asciitable.com/index/extend.gif
> 
> Scroll down to "Extended ASCII Codes"
> 
> Hold the "ALT" key and type the three-digit number on the right-hand-side
> number pad on a standard keyboard (not the numbers across the top of the
> keyboard - I have not yet figured out how to access the number pad on the
> reduced-size laptop keyboard).  Good idea to print the section.  Very
> useful for tech- and language-writing in WORD.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Alan V31FA
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH  wrote:
>> 
>> Instead of typing out "lambda", just hold down the "ALT" key and type 955
>> = λ
>> 
>> Same for :
>> Alt 171 = ½
>> Alt 172 = ¼
>> Alt 0216 = Ø
>> Alt 227 = π
>> Alt 234 = Ω
>> 
>> There's lots more where those came from...
>> 
>> 73, Charlie k3ICH
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Hank
>> Garretson
>> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 12:38 PM
>> To: Elecraft Reflector 
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Power Supplies
>> 
>> Counterpoises are good.
>> 
>> Also very helpful is to adjust total length of flattop and feedline to be
>> an odd multiple of Lambda/4 for the bands of interest. This keeps max RF
>> voltage peaks out of the shack. Not always convenient to do if you want
>> multiple bands.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Hank, W6SX
>> 
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[Elecraft] K3 power oddity

[Leroy Buller]

Operated RTTY NAQP this weekend.   When changing bands, I noticed my power
would drop to 40 watts or so.  After several transmissions, it would rise
to 100 watts.  I don't think this is normal.   All antennas are matched.
Comments?

Lee
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Re: [Elecraft] A955 = λ

[Alan Slusher]

Good advice from Charlie, K3ICH.

Check the following website:
www.asciitable.com/index/extend.gif

Scroll down to "Extended ASCII Codes"

Hold the "ALT" key and type the three-digit number on the right-hand-side
number pad on a standard keyboard (not the numbers across the top of the
keyboard - I have not yet figured out how to access the number pad on the
reduced-size laptop keyboard).  Good idea to print the section.  Very
useful for tech- and language-writing in WORD.

Cheers,

Alan V31FA

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH  wrote:

> Instead of typing out "lambda", just hold down the "ALT" key and type 955
> = λ
>
> Same for :
> Alt 171 = ½
> Alt 172 = ¼
> Alt 0216 = Ø
> Alt 227 = π
> Alt 234 = Ω
>
> There's lots more where those came from...
>
> 73, Charlie k3ICH
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Hank
> Garretson
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 12:38 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Power Supplies
>
> Counterpoises are good.
>
> Also very helpful is to adjust total length of flattop and feedline to be
> an odd multiple of Lambda/4 for the bands of interest. This keeps max RF
> voltage peaks out of the shack. Not always convenient to do if you want
> multiple bands.
>
> 73,
>
> Hank, W6SX
>
>
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[Elecraft] Failed K3 Firmware update DSP1

[Matthew Lawson]

Please help, went to update my K3 to the latest Firmware (was running 2.19)
all updated fine until DSP1.

00:33:01 Loaded DSP1 firmware revision 02.86
K3 responded with revision ??.??
00:33:01 DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
00:33:01 Error code 0xE246: Revision number verification failed
00:33:01 DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
00:33:01 Click "Close" to close this window

More detailed verbose:

LoadDspDataTableState Response "A"   0 ms
ResetMcuState Send "LDD2;"
Waiting 6 seconds for reset to complete
ResetMcuState Response "A"  15 ms
ResetMcuState Timer Elapsed 5500 ms
DetermineSpeedState Send ";"
DetermineSpeedState Response ";"  15 ms
QueryMainDspRevisionState Send "RVD;"
QueryMainDspRevisionState Response "RVD00.00;"  16 ms
Loaded DSP1 firmware revision 02.86
K3 responded with revision ??.??
DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
Error code 0xE246: Revision number verification failed
DSP1 verification failed. Reload DSP1.
Click "Close" to close this window

Computer I am using has hardware RS232 ports, two of them, and I have tried
either one with the same results. I am using the latest K3 Utility
1.16.6.25.
My K3's serial number is 01341.
Everything seems to load fine but fails the DSP1.

I have tried reloading and re-downloading, rebooting, both computer and K3.

I also looked into downgrading to an older firmware, but I can not find an
older archive that goes back far enough to my working configuration, 2.19.

I did try what was archived and got the same results. (ftp directory)

Please help. I also searched the forums with no avail. most were USB
adapter problems.

73


This has rendered my K3 useless.

*Matthew Lawson*
*KC7EQO*
*442.100 + 100 Hz PL Blyn Mt Repeater*


*http://www.qrz.com/db/KC7EQO/R *

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Re: [Elecraft] Did calibration

[Dick Lindzen]

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Mark E. Musick [mailto:markmus...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 5:58 AM
To: Dick Lindzen; 'Reflector Elecraft'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Did calibration

With the firmware upgrade the VFO linking was moved from the sub receiver 
button to the config menu.
Look in the firmware upgrade notes. There you will find the information you 
need to link the VFOs.

Mark Musick, WB9CIF

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Lindzen
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 5:19 AM
To: Reflector Elecraft 
Subject: [Elecraft] Did calibration

The power issue was solved with a calibration.  Any suggestions for the 
inability in link vfo's?
73, Dick, WO1I K3 911
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Re: [Elecraft] Did calibration

[Mark E. Musick]

With the firmware upgrade the VFO linking was moved from the sub receiver
button to the config menu.
Look in the firmware upgrade notes. There you will find the information you
need to link the VFOs.

Mark Musick, WB9CIF

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Lindzen
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 5:19 AM
To: Reflector Elecraft 
Subject: [Elecraft] Did calibration

The power issue was solved with a calibration.  Any suggestions for the
inability in link vfo's?
73, Dick, WO1I K3 911
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