[Elecraft] K1 Front Panel Assembly: Potentiometer shaft doesn't fit

[Brian Moran via Elecraft]

I'm in the middle of assembling a K1, and have gotten to the front panel final 
assembly. 
The Potentiometer (type labeled 1-2-3) that I have has a threaded shaft that is 
too large of diameter to fit the K1's front panel. What's the best way to 
enlarge the hole to preserve the nice new paint?Or is there something else that 
I'm missing?  I have Googled for this, however nothing in the first page of 
results seems to mention this issue.Thanks,
Brian N9ADG

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Re: [Elecraft] RTTY

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Back in the 1950's Soviet Hams could not discuss anything but their rigs
(mostly homebrew) with us in the "west". So exchanges were short even
without a contest. And visiting friends in Cuba was off-limits for us
Americans. Still, I believe those contacts had a positive effect.

Just participating in the contest enhances international goodwill in a small
way.  

Yes, the internet and softening of relationships has changed the role Ham
contacts have, but they are still part of the international goodwill
equation. I submit that is true in its small way even of automated context
exchanges. 

And Ham contacts have changed too. Time was, a few weekends a year one might
find a contest in progress. Now it's hard to find a contest-free weekend on
the CW bands where I hang out. But that is what a great many Hams enjoy. 

Personally, as a rag-chewer, I have over the past 60+ years of pounding
brass made several life-long friends by Ham radio. Only a few I have managed
to visit personally since they are scattered world-wide. Most of the
memories are fixed by QSL cards - real paper cards sent via the "burro".
Others by a memento of a personal visit, such as the nice carved AC7AC call
sign I have on my desk from a great fellow in The Netherlands when I visited
him. 

And it is true that instead of many on-air QSOs over a few years as in
decades long past, we often resort to e-mail. Indeed, some started via
e-mail right here on the Elecraft reflector. 

Maybe "enhance international goodwill" as a justification for Ham radio will
come to an end along with rag-chewing, but somehow I doubt that will happen.

People everywhere are more comfortable with others who they know and with
whom they share some common interests.  

73, Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lynn
W. Taylor, WB6UUT
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:44 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RTTY

Okay, Kevin

Here is the appropriate section: 


I was told that basically there was no place for ragchewing in Amateur Radio
-- no place at all.

97.1(e) says there is a place for a good ragchew.  Not sure where contesting
comes in, but I'll stipulate that it can be fit into 97.1 somewhere.

It does not say that every place is a good place for a ragchew, at any time.
It seems intuitively obvious that a DX pileup is neither the time nor the
place.

You then compare typing on a keyboard to using paddles, and going back to
the post just before mine, it was about using pre-programmed macros for a
contest exchange.

The operators aren't really talking.  They're pressing two macro keys and
making an entry in the log.

NO MATTER WHAT IT IS, WHAT YOU LIKE TO DO, SOMEONE WILL SAY "THIS ISN'T 
AMATEUR RADIO." 

I do respectfully disagree.

It may not be what I want to do, but I've seen the Full-Scan TV ops get very
excited about their favored mode.  Moonbounce doesn't excite me, but it
excites moonbounce enthusiasts.  Satellites?  Did it once, happy to know
about it, not enough to really gear-up for it.

There is room for all of this in Amateur Radio.

... and I'm more than happy to do something else on big Contest weekends,
and to steer clear of the pileups.

I won't name the person I quoted, but his technical contributions are
significant.  He'd still rather carry on a conversation than just send
macros.

In my opinion, it is a little bit sad that we have reduced communication to
a couple of macros.

I don't require you to share that opinion, Kevin, nor will I deny you the
pleasure of operating that way if it's what you love.

I won't ridicule it either.

73 -- Lynn

On 3/15/2017 3:45 PM, Kevin wrote:
> Ridiculous!
>
> Just try to "enhance international goodwill" with a human to human 
> conversation in a DX pileup.
>
> The only difference between having the K3 to send the RTTY and your 
> computer/soundcard/software doing it is that the human on the K3 using 
> the keyer is slower and makes mistakes (unless he/she can do 60wpm 
> mistake free, not likely). Same thing applies using the K3 memories. 
> No difference between that and punching a function key on a computer 
> keyboard. Should we outlaw computer sent RTTY and how can you tell the 
> difference other than the computer makes no mistakes?
>
> I would advise whoever sent the email to walk the talk, get off the 
> internet and take up pen and paper again. You know, for that human to 
> human personalization thing.
>
>
> On 3/13/2017 2:40 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
>> I don't claim credit for this comment as it came to me off-list:
>>
>> Section 97.1
>>
>> (e) Continuation and extension of the amateur's unique ability to 
>> enhance international goodwill.
>>
>> Unless we are trying to enhance goodwill between silicon chips 
>> located in various parts of the world -- and since the context of the 
>> origin

Re: [Elecraft] RTTY

[Bill Frantz]

IMHO, all the things we normally do in amateur radio are 
justified under one or more of the sectuib 97.1 Basis and purpose.


Contests simulate emergency communications, where getting a 
message (the contest exchange) through accurately and quickly is 
very important. I enter several contests a year, and retreat to 
the WARC bands when I don't want to play in a contest.


DXing builds operator skill in pulling information out of very 
weak signals. It also supports an amazing number of 
international trips to put rare entities on the air. I chase DX 
and dream of getting to be a good enough operator to join a 
DXpedition. I think Nigel Jolly would agree that amateur radio 
has helped build international understanding.


Rag chewing builds operator skills, as well as ensuring that 
people's equipment is still working. I like a good rag chew and 
I have been known to chat back and forth for 15 minutes to 1/2 
an hour on PSK-31. (Note that as a retired software guy, I can 
type reasonably well.)


I could go on and on, but you get the picture.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 3/15/17 at 5:44 PM, k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com (Lynn W. 
Taylor, WB6UUT) wrote:



I was told that basically there was no place for ragchewing in Amateur Radio -- 
no place at all.

97.1(e) says there is a place for a good ragchew.  Not sure 
where contesting comes in, but I'll stipulate that it can be 
fit into 97.1 somewhere.


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up the
408-356-8506   | intelligence.  There's a knob called 
"brightness", but

www.pwpconsult.com | it doesn't work. -- Gallagher

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[Elecraft] K3/K3S firmware with several new features & fixes ready; looking for testers

[Wayne Burdick]

Hi all,

We're close to a field-test K3/K3S firmware release with the following new 
features:

   * Preamp 2 (LNA) now usable on 15 and 17 meters (provides significant NF 
improvement)

   * TX monitor level at LINE OUT adjustable

   * Two new remote control commands:  VX SET (VOX on/off) and AR (RX ANT 
on/off)

...and some bug fixes:

   * K-POD tap/hold functions can be used to play/chain/repeat message buffers

   * Transmit start/stop via PTT or XMIT switch removes QSK or VOX delay, even 
if VOX mode was selected

   * AM-sync mode no longer interacts incorrectly with memory store/recall

We have some testers already identified, but could use a few more. Please email 
me directly (wayne at elecraft dot com) if you'll be available to test most or 
all of the above functions in the next day or two.

Thanks--

Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] RTTY

[Don Wilhelm]

"There is a time for every thing, turn, turn, turn.  There is a season 
for every purpose under Heaven" Those words of Pete Seeger ring in my head.


It is the same on the hambands.  There is a time for ragchews and there 
is a time for contests, and there is a time for DX contacts which are 
looking for the maximum number of QSOs.


On contest weekends, do not expect ragchew QSOs with those who are 
contesting.
For DX contacts who are trying to maximize their contacts, the will not 
be willing to ragchew.


If you want to ragchew, then do it with stations that are also willing. 
Send them a bit of personal information and see if they respond.  If 
not, they are not willing to ragchew.


Bottom line - it all depends.  It takes two to make a conversation.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/15/2017 8:44 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:



I was told that basically there was no place for ragchewing in Amateur
Radio -- no place at all.

97.1(e) says there is a place for a good ragchew.  Not sure where
contesting comes in, but I'll stipulate that it can be fit into 97.1
somewhere.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 microphone input selection

[Bob Wilson, N6TV]

Alan,

Do you have MAIN:MIC+LIN set to ON?  If so, try setting it to OFF.

73,
Bob, N6TV


On Mar 15, 2017 3:41 PM, "Alan. G4GNX"  wrote:

I will do that Bill. I'm sure it's was never intended to work that way. I
can't think of any reason it should, so it's either a bug or something I'm
doing wrong.


73,

Alan. G4GNX

-Original Message- From: Nr4c
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:47 PM

To: Alan. G4GNX
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 microphone input selection

You should notify Elecraft. It isn't supposed to work like this I don't
believe.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


On Mar 15, 2017, at 2:35 PM, Alan. G4GNX  wrote:
>
> Absolutely sure, Bill.
>
> This happened once before with our club's K3 and it was definitely the
> issue.
>
> Today on my own K3, I was in QSO and I simply muffled the rear panel
> microphone with my hand and the issue went away. The monitor was set at
> zero.
>
> 73,
>
> Alan. G4GNX
>
> -Original Message- From: Nr4c
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:13 PM
> To: Alan. G4GNX
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 microphone input selection
>
> Are you sure the other signal is from rear mic and not some other source?
>
> Try turning TX monitor to zero and see what happens. You may be picking
> sound from speakers and not the rear mic.
>
> I've had K3 and K3S and have never had both mics "live" at same time.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
> On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Alan. G4GNX 
>> wrote:
>>
>> When I have two microphones connected to the K3, one in the front panel
>> and one in the rear panel, I can select which one I want to use and whether
>> bias is turned on for either or both, via the menu as expected.
>> If I select the rear panel microphone, it works as expected and the front
>> panel mic is muted.
>> If I select the front panel microphone it works OK, but the rear panel
>> microphone is also unmuted and transmission sounds like two voices at the
>> same time, probably due to the two mics being out of phase.
>> Is there any way of selecting the front panel microphone only, with rear
>> panel mic plugged in?
>> As both microphones are electrets, the only way I can think of getting
>> round it temporarily is to turn the bias off on the rear panel mic, when
>> using the front panel mic, which is inconvenient and not a ‘clean’ solution.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Alan. G4GNX
>>
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>
> This happened once before with our club's K3 and it was definitely the
> issue.
>
> Today on my own K3, I was in QSO and I simply muffled the rear panel
> microphone with my hand and the issue went away. The monitor was set at
> zero.
>
> 73,
>
> Alan. G4GNX
>
> -Original Message- From: Nr4c
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:13 PM
> To: Alan. G4GNX
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 microphone input selection
>
> Are you sure the other signal is from rear mic and not some other source?
>
> Try turning TX monitor to zero and see what happens. You may be picking
> sound from speakers and not the rear mic.
>
> I've had K3 and K3S and have never had both mics "live" at same time.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
> On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Alan. G4GNX 
>> wrote:
>>
>> When I have two microphones connected to the K3, one in the front panel
>> and one in the rear panel, I can select which one I want to use and whether
>> bias is turned on for either or both, via the menu as expected.
>> If I select the rear panel microphone, it works as expected and the front
>> panel mic is muted.
>> If I select the front panel microphone it works OK, but the rear panel
>> microphone is also unmuted and transmission sounds like two voices at the
>> same time, probably due to the two mics being out of phase.
>> Is there any way of selecting the front panel microphone only, with rear
>> panel mic plugged in?
>> As both microphones are electrets, the only way I can think of getting
>> round it temporarily is to turn the bias off on the rear panel mic, when
>> using the front panel mic, which is inconvenient and not a ‘clean’ solution.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Alan. G4GNX
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] RTTY

[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT]

Okay, Kevin

Here is the appropriate section: 



I was told that basically there was no place for ragchewing in Amateur 
Radio -- no place at all.


97.1(e) says there is a place for a good ragchew.  Not sure where 
contesting comes in, but I'll stipulate that it can be fit into 97.1 
somewhere.


It does not say that every place is a good place for a ragchew, at any 
time.  It seems intuitively obvious that a DX pileup is neither the time 
nor the place.


You then compare typing on a keyboard to using paddles, and going back 
to the post just before mine, it was about using pre-programmed macros 
for a contest exchange.


The operators aren't really talking.  They're pressing two macro keys 
and making an entry in the log.


NO MATTER WHAT IT IS, WHAT YOU LIKE TO DO, SOMEONE WILL SAY "THIS ISN'T 
AMATEUR RADIO."	


I do respectfully disagree.

It may not be what I want to do, but I've seen the Full-Scan TV ops get 
very excited about their favored mode.  Moonbounce doesn't excite me, 
but it excites moonbounce enthusiasts.  Satellites?  Did it once, happy 
to know about it, not enough to really gear-up for it.


There is room for all of this in Amateur Radio.

... and I'm more than happy to do something else on big Contest 
weekends, and to steer clear of the pileups.


I won't name the person I quoted, but his technical contributions are 
significant.  He'd still rather carry on a conversation than just send 
macros.


In my opinion, it is a little bit sad that we have reduced communication 
to a couple of macros.


I don't require you to share that opinion, Kevin, nor will I deny you 
the pleasure of operating that way if it's what you love.


I won't ridicule it either.

73 -- Lynn

On 3/15/2017 3:45 PM, Kevin wrote:

Ridiculous!

Just try to "enhance international goodwill" with a human to human
conversation in a DX pileup.

The only difference between having the K3 to send the RTTY and your
computer/soundcard/software doing it is that the human on the K3 using
the keyer is slower and makes mistakes (unless he/she can do 60wpm
mistake free, not likely). Same thing applies using the K3 memories. No
difference between that and punching a function key on a computer
keyboard. Should we outlaw computer sent RTTY and how can you tell the
difference other than the computer makes no mistakes?

I would advise whoever sent the email to walk the talk, get off the
internet and take up pen and paper again. You know, for that human to
human personalization thing.


On 3/13/2017 2:40 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:

I don't claim credit for this comment as it came to me off-list:

Section 97.1

(e) Continuation and extension of the amateur's unique ability to
enhance international goodwill.

Unless we are trying to enhance goodwill between silicon chips located
in various parts of the world -- and since the context of the original
comment was  establishing communications with 300 DX "countries" --
actually speaking with humans might actually be part of the basis and
purpose of Amateur radio, as opposed to pressing two macro keys on a
radio...

I'm sure others will disagree, and I do understand that this is not
how most hams communicate.

... and as I said, it's a little bit sad.

73 -- Lynn

On 3/13/2017 11:44 AM, Jim Brown wrote:

On Mon,3/13/2017 11:12 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:

and not a single actual conversation with another human being.

Sad.


This may come as a shock, but the mission of ham radio does NOT
include rag chewing. Rather, we have licenses and privileges for the
purpose of developing technical skills and knowledge, developing
operating skills, and providing emergency communications. What's sad
to me is the mindless stuff that passes for conversation on our ham
bands and the fact that many hams seem to think that's the purpose of
ham radio.

FWIW, I find email, various online media, and face-to-face
conversation far more satisfying. And I use local repeaters to
maintain community with nearby hams.

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] Traveling Power Supply for KX2?

[Bill Frantz]

My Pro Audio Engineering power supply has a C8 connector. C8 is 
part of a standard for connectors designed specifically to allow 
different cords for different country's electrical plug 
requirements.  (See:  
for details.)


73 Bill AE6JV

On 3/15/17 at 4:18 PM, elecraft@mailman.qth.net (Dave B via 
Elecraft) wrote:



But it looks like it has a non EU compliant AC power lead, (looks like a
standard two blade ungrounded US lead.)  But supplied with an 
adapter. Not sure about the full legality of that practice 
these days.


I suspect at the PSU end of the AC lead, it uses a standard two pole
"C8" connector, so you should be able to source, or already have a
suitable lead for your own country.


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going down,

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Re: [Elecraft] Traveling Power Supply for KX2?

[Howard Hoyt]

Hi Irma!

Pro Audio Engineering products distributor in Europe is Carlo Bianconi 
in Italy:

http://www.carlobianconi.com/
If they are out of stock we do ship internationally from the US.

Cheers & 73,
Howard Hoyt - WA4PSC
www.proaudioeng.com
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[Elecraft] Traveling Power Supply for KX2?

[Dave B via Elecraft]

On 15/03/17 22:45, Irma Linas  wrote:
> Is this fine device available from European dealers, anybody knows?
> I run at the moment a ps from MFJ specifically designed for the FT817, it's
> fine and no noise but it is quite bulky.
>
> Linas LY2H

*http://preview.tinyurl.com/zqw73xp

*Goes to...*
*
http://www.carlobianconi.com/en/catalogo-prodotti.html?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=828&category_id=19

€79.99 from Italy.

But it looks like it has a non EU compliant AC power lead, (looks like a
standard two blade ungrounded US lead.)  But supplied with an adapter. 
Not sure about the full legality of that practice these days.

I suspect at the PSU end of the AC lead, it uses a standard two pole
"C8" connector, so you should be able to source, or already have a
suitable lead for your own country.


Note to others in the EU.  It's the /importers/ responsibility to ensure
products sourced from outside the EU, and placed for sale within the EU,
comply with EU regs.


I have no experience of this particular PSU myself.


73 & Take care.

Dave G0WBX.

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Announcing "The Y-BOX", a new 4-way splitter and breakout box for the K3 and K3S

[W0MU Mike Fatchett]

I ordered one as well.  Actually, I ordered two and Bob explained in 
detail what the box would and would not do in the lock out version.  
After his explanation I decided to get one first to try without the lockout.


Thanks for clarifying before shipping.  It is great to see this high 
level of care and support in a product!


W0MU


On 3/15/2017 9:58 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:

Bob,
 I have ordered three.   Two are for myself and one is for a friend
currently at 9N7EI.   This looks very useful.   Maybe Elecraft will put a
link on their accessories or outside supplier's page.   Good work.

  73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne
Burdick
Sent: 15 March 2017 03:43
To: Bob Wilson, N6TV
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Announcing "The Y-BOX",a new 4-way splitter and
breakout box for the K3 and K3S

Bob,

This looks like cool accessory that should clean up many a tangled web. We
actually had something on paper several years ago, but it didn't have as
much flexibility in wiring signals to RCA jacks, etc.

The only thing I'd do differently is paint it black and put a logo on it. Or
figure out a way to make it portable :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Mar 14, 2017, at 11:53 AM, "Bob Wilson, N6TV"  wrote:


WA6HHQ encouraged me to post this here.

Wanting to replace the tangled chain of multiple Y-Adapters connected to

my

K3 ACC port with something cleaner and more reliable, I designed a new
custom circuit board to fit into a commercial VGA switch box case.  The
result is a new combination 4-way splitter and breakout box for the K3 and
K3S that I'm calling "The Y-BOX".

You can view photos and place an online order here:

http://bit.ly/Y-BOX


Highlights:

   - Splits one ACC port into four DE-15 female connectors - all 15 pins
   plus the shield are wired in parallel to every connector

   - Replaces "VGA splitters" that easily pull apart with reliable
   thumb-screw connections

   - Provides four RCA connectors that may be connected to any of the 15
   ACC port pins (or to each other) with standard wire jumpers, e.g.:  FSK

IN,

   PTT IN, KEYOUT-LP.  Ideal for experimentation and measurements as well

as

   connections to legacy devices

   - Includes six internal jumper wires, pre-installed in one of two
   configurations - the function of each K3 ACC header pin is clearly

labeled

   on the PC board for reference

   - Includes one 10K ohm and one 470 ohm resistor to create a Simple SO2R
   Lockout Circuit (see http://bit.ly/K3lockout and the "Y-BOX Features and
   Uses" page on the Y-BOX web site).

   - Includes one (optional) Amphenol 2.5' (0.76m) Male-to-Male DE-15 cable
   to connect the Y-BOX to the K3 ACC port.

Reviews from early adopters (local club members and K3 Field Testers) have
been very positive.  eHam reviews will appear here:

http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/13296

Note:  the Y-BOX is not an Elecraft product.  It was offered to Eric, but
he doesn't want to take on another project at this time.

The Y-BOX is currently available for immediate shipment, but in limited
quantities.  When the initial inventory sells out, you may add yourself to
the Y-BOX Waiting List at no cost (via the PayPal "Continue Shopping"
button).  Once enough orders are on the waiting list, I'll attempt to
acquire enough parts to meet the demand.

In sum, you can get one right away if you order right away, then it may be
another month or two before I can get all the parts required and build
another batch.

"The Y-BOX, Why Not?"

I look forward to fulfilling your orders soon.

73,
Bob, N6TV
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Re: [Elecraft] RTTY

[Kevin]

Ridiculous!

Just try to "enhance international goodwill" with a human to human 
conversation in a DX pileup.


The only difference between having the K3 to send the RTTY and your 
computer/soundcard/software doing it is that the human on the K3 using 
the keyer is slower and makes mistakes (unless he/she can do 60wpm 
mistake free, not likely). Same thing applies using the K3 memories. No 
difference between that and punching a function key on a computer 
keyboard. Should we outlaw computer sent RTTY and how can you tell the 
difference other than the computer makes no mistakes?


I would advise whoever sent the email to walk the talk, get off the 
internet and take up pen and paper again. You know, for that human to 
human personalization thing.



On 3/13/2017 2:40 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:

I don't claim credit for this comment as it came to me off-list:

Section 97.1

(e) Continuation and extension of the amateur's unique ability to 
enhance international goodwill.


Unless we are trying to enhance goodwill between silicon chips located 
in various parts of the world -- and since the context of the original 
comment was  establishing communications with 300 DX "countries" -- 
actually speaking with humans might actually be part of the basis and 
purpose of Amateur radio, as opposed to pressing two macro keys on a 
radio...


I'm sure others will disagree, and I do understand that this is not 
how most hams communicate.


... and as I said, it's a little bit sad.

73 -- Lynn

On 3/13/2017 11:44 AM, Jim Brown wrote:

On Mon,3/13/2017 11:12 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:

and not a single actual conversation with another human being.

Sad. 


This may come as a shock, but the mission of ham radio does NOT 
include rag chewing. Rather, we have licenses and privileges for the 
purpose of developing technical skills and knowledge, developing 
operating skills, and providing emergency communications. What's sad 
to me is the mindless stuff that passes for conversation on our ham 
bands and the fact that many hams seem to think that's the purpose of 
ham radio.


FWIW, I find email, various online media, and face-to-face 
conversation far more satisfying. And I use local repeaters to 
maintain community with nearby hams.


73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 microphone input selection

[Alan. G4GNX]

I will do that Bill. I'm sure it's was never intended to work that way. I 
can't think of any reason it should, so it's either a bug or something I'm 
doing wrong.


73,

Alan. G4GNX

-Original Message- 
From: Nr4c

Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:47 PM
To: Alan. G4GNX
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 microphone input selection

You should notify Elecraft. It isn't supposed to work like this I don't 
believe.


Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


On Mar 15, 2017, at 2:35 PM, Alan. G4GNX  
wrote:


Absolutely sure, Bill.

This happened once before with our club's K3 and it was definitely the 
issue.


Today on my own K3, I was in QSO and I simply muffled the rear panel 
microphone with my hand and the issue went away. The monitor was set at 
zero.


73,

Alan. G4GNX

-Original Message- From: Nr4c
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:13 PM
To: Alan. G4GNX
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 microphone input selection

Are you sure the other signal is from rear mic and not some other source?

Try turning TX monitor to zero and see what happens. You may be picking 
sound from speakers and not the rear mic.


I've had K3 and K3S and have never had both mics "live" at same time.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Alan. G4GNX  
wrote:


When I have two microphones connected to the K3, one in the front panel 
and one in the rear panel, I can select which one I want to use and 
whether bias is turned on for either or both, via the menu as expected.
If I select the rear panel microphone, it works as expected and the front 
panel mic is muted.
If I select the front panel microphone it works OK, but the rear panel 
microphone is also unmuted and transmission sounds like two voices at the 
same time, probably due to the two mics being out of phase.
Is there any way of selecting the front panel microphone only, with rear 
panel mic plugged in?
As both microphones are electrets, the only way I can think of getting 
round it temporarily is to turn the bias off on the rear panel mic, when 
using the front panel mic, which is inconvenient and not a ‘clean’ 
solution.


73,

Alan. G4GNX

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Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaqAbsolutely sure, Bill.

This happened once before with our club's K3 and it was definitely the 
issue.


Today on my own K3, I was in QSO and I simply muffled the rear panel 
microphone with my hand and the issue went away. The monitor was set at 
zero.


73,

Alan. G4GNX

-Original Message- From: Nr4c
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:13 PM
To: Alan. G4GNX
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 microphone input selection

Are you sure the other signal is from rear mic and not some other source?

Try turning TX monitor to zero and see what happens. You may be picking 
sound from speakers and not the rear mic.


I've had K3 and K3S and have never had both mics "live" at same time.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Alan. G4GNX  
wrote:


When I have two microphones connected to the K3, one in the front panel 
and one in the rear panel, I can select which one I want to use and 
whether bias is turned on for either or both, via the menu as expected.
If I select the rear panel microphone, it works as expected and the front 
panel mic is muted.
If I select the front panel microphone it works OK, but the rear panel 
microphone is also unmuted and transmission sounds like two voices at the 
same time, probably due to the two mics being out of phase.
Is there any way of selecting the front panel microphone only, with rear 
panel mic plugged in?
As both microphones are electrets, the only way I can think of getting 
round it temporarily is to turn the bias off on the rear panel mic, when 
using the front panel mic, which is inconvenient and not a ‘clean’ 
solution.


73,

Alan. G4GNX

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 microphone input selection

[Nr4c]

You should notify Elecraft. It isn't supposed to work like this I don't 
believe. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Mar 15, 2017, at 2:35 PM, Alan. G4GNX  wrote:
> 
> Absolutely sure, Bill.
> 
> This happened once before with our club's K3 and it was definitely the issue.
> 
> Today on my own K3, I was in QSO and I simply muffled the rear panel 
> microphone with my hand and the issue went away. The monitor was set at zero.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Alan. G4GNX
> 
> -Original Message- From: Nr4c
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:13 PM
> To: Alan. G4GNX
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 microphone input selection
> 
> Are you sure the other signal is from rear mic and not some other source?
> 
> Try turning TX monitor to zero and see what happens. You may be picking sound 
> from speakers and not the rear mic.
> 
> I've had K3 and K3S and have never had both mics "live" at same time.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
> 
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Alan. G4GNX  wrote:
>> 
>> When I have two microphones connected to the K3, one in the front panel and 
>> one in the rear panel, I can select which one I want to use and whether bias 
>> is turned on for either or both, via the menu as expected.
>> If I select the rear panel microphone, it works as expected and the front 
>> panel mic is muted.
>> If I select the front panel microphone it works OK, but the rear panel 
>> microphone is also unmuted and transmission sounds like two voices at the 
>> same time, probably due to the two mics being out of phase.
>> Is there any way of selecting the front panel microphone only, with rear 
>> panel mic plugged in?
>> As both microphones are electrets, the only way I can think of getting round 
>> it temporarily is to turn the bias off on the rear panel mic, when using the 
>> front panel mic, which is inconvenient and not a ‘clean’ solution.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Alan. G4GNX
>> 
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> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaqAbsolutely sure, Bill.
> 
> This happened once before with our club's K3 and it was definitely the issue.
> 
> Today on my own K3, I was in QSO and I simply muffled the rear panel 
> microphone with my hand and the issue went away. The monitor was set at zero.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Alan. G4GNX
> 
> -Original Message- From: Nr4c
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:13 PM
> To: Alan. G4GNX
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 microphone input selection
> 
> Are you sure the other signal is from rear mic and not some other source?
> 
> Try turning TX monitor to zero and see what happens. You may be picking sound 
> from speakers and not the rear mic.
> 
> I've had K3 and K3S and have never had both mics "live" at same time.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
> 
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Alan. G4GNX  wrote:
>> 
>> When I have two microphones connected to the K3, one in the front panel and 
>> one in the rear panel, I can select which one I want to use and whether bias 
>> is turned on for either or both, via the menu as expected.
>> If I select the rear panel microphone, it works as expected and the front 
>> panel mic is muted.
>> If I select the front panel microphone it works OK, but the rear panel 
>> microphone is also unmuted and transmission sounds like two voices at the 
>> same time, probably due to the two mics being out of phase.
>> Is there any way of selecting the front panel microphone only, with rear 
>> panel mic plugged in?
>> As both microphones are electrets, the only way I can think of getting round 
>> it temporarily is to turn the bias off on the rear panel mic, when using the 
>> front panel mic, which is inconvenient and not a ‘clean’ solution.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Alan. G4GNX
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 microphone input selection

[Alan. G4GNX]

Absolutely sure, Bill.

This happened once before with our club's K3 and it was definitely the 
issue.


Today on my own K3, I was in QSO and I simply muffled the rear panel 
microphone with my hand and the issue went away. The monitor was set at 
zero.


73,

Alan. G4GNX

-Original Message- 
From: Nr4c

Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:13 PM
To: Alan. G4GNX
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 microphone input selection

Are you sure the other signal is from rear mic and not some other source?

Try turning TX monitor to zero and see what happens. You may be picking 
sound from speakers and not the rear mic.


I've had K3 and K3S and have never had both mics "live" at same time.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Alan. G4GNX  
wrote:


When I have two microphones connected to the K3, one in the front panel 
and one in the rear panel, I can select which one I want to use and 
whether bias is turned on for either or both, via the menu as expected.
If I select the rear panel microphone, it works as expected and the front 
panel mic is muted.
If I select the front panel microphone it works OK, but the rear panel 
microphone is also unmuted and transmission sounds like two voices at the 
same time, probably due to the two mics being out of phase.
Is there any way of selecting the front panel microphone only, with rear 
panel mic plugged in?
As both microphones are electrets, the only way I can think of getting 
round it temporarily is to turn the bias off on the rear panel mic, when 
using the front panel mic, which is inconvenient and not a ‘clean’ 
solution.


73,

Alan. G4GNX

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 microphone input selection

[Nr4c]

Are you sure the other signal is from rear mic and not some other source? 

Try turning TX monitor to zero and see what happens. You may be picking sound 
from speakers and not the rear mic. 

I've had K3 and K3S and have never had both mics "live" at same time. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Mar 15, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Alan. G4GNX  wrote:
> 
> When I have two microphones connected to the K3, one in the front panel and 
> one in the rear panel, I can select which one I want to use and whether bias 
> is turned on for either or both, via the menu as expected.
> If I select the rear panel microphone, it works as expected and the front 
> panel mic is muted.
> If I select the front panel microphone it works OK, but the rear panel 
> microphone is also unmuted and transmission sounds like two voices at the 
> same time, probably due to the two mics being out of phase.
> Is there any way of selecting the front panel microphone only, with rear 
> panel mic plugged in?
> As both microphones are electrets, the only way I can think of getting round 
> it temporarily is to turn the bias off on the rear panel mic, when using the 
> front panel mic, which is inconvenient and not a ‘clean’ solution.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Alan. G4GNX
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2/KX3 phone ops during QRPTTF?

[Stephen Shearer]

My plan is to operate QRPTTF...  YES, digital would be nice, too.  SSB 
for sure.


I seem to always have conflicts with other events.  This year is no 
different as DE Hamfest is the same day.


I have not decided what river I will operate from, yet.  Delaware, 
Brandywine, Red Clay, White Clay are all nearby.  I need to see how 
close is required as all but the Delaware are in "deep" valleys.


Look for club call NR3I or personal WB3LGC.
73, Steve


On 3/10/2017 6:12 PM, Ryan Noguchi via Elecraft wrote:

Unlike past QRPTTF events, this one has the potential to include a lot of SSB 
activity. In the pre-KX2/3 days most rigs used in this annual event were 
CW-only. I hope non-CW owners of these rigs will consider participating this 
year and, like NPOTA ops who used these rigs, make QRPTTF a multi-mode event.




Why not digital modes too?

73, Ryan AI6DO
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[Elecraft] K3 microphone input selection

[Alan. G4GNX]

When I have two microphones connected to the K3, one in the front panel and one 
in the rear panel, I can select which one I want to use and whether bias is 
turned on for either or both, via the menu as expected.
If I select the rear panel microphone, it works as expected and the front panel 
mic is muted.
If I select the front panel microphone it works OK, but the rear panel 
microphone is also unmuted and transmission sounds like two voices at the same 
time, probably due to the two mics being out of phase.
Is there any way of selecting the front panel microphone only, with rear panel 
mic plugged in?
As both microphones are electrets, the only way I can think of getting round it 
temporarily is to turn the bias off on the rear panel mic, when using the front 
panel mic, which is inconvenient and not a ‘clean’ solution.

73,

Alan. G4GNX

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Announcing "The Y-BOX", a new 4-way splitter and breakout box for the K3 and K3S

[Doug Turnbull]

Bob,
I have ordered three.   Two are for myself and one is for a friend
currently at 9N7EI.   This looks very useful.   Maybe Elecraft will put a
link on their accessories or outside supplier's page.   Good work.

 73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne
Burdick
Sent: 15 March 2017 03:43
To: Bob Wilson, N6TV
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Announcing "The Y-BOX",a new 4-way splitter and
breakout box for the K3 and K3S

Bob, 

This looks like cool accessory that should clean up many a tangled web. We
actually had something on paper several years ago, but it didn't have as
much flexibility in wiring signals to RCA jacks, etc. 

The only thing I'd do differently is paint it black and put a logo on it. Or
figure out a way to make it portable :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Mar 14, 2017, at 11:53 AM, "Bob Wilson, N6TV"  wrote:

> WA6HHQ encouraged me to post this here.
> 
> Wanting to replace the tangled chain of multiple Y-Adapters connected to
my
> K3 ACC port with something cleaner and more reliable, I designed a new
> custom circuit board to fit into a commercial VGA switch box case.  The
> result is a new combination 4-way splitter and breakout box for the K3 and
> K3S that I'm calling "The Y-BOX".
> 
> You can view photos and place an online order here:
> 
> http://bit.ly/Y-BOX
> 
> 
> Highlights:
> 
>   - Splits one ACC port into four DE-15 female connectors - all 15 pins
>   plus the shield are wired in parallel to every connector
> 
>   - Replaces "VGA splitters" that easily pull apart with reliable
>   thumb-screw connections
> 
>   - Provides four RCA connectors that may be connected to any of the 15
>   ACC port pins (or to each other) with standard wire jumpers, e.g.:  FSK
IN,
>   PTT IN, KEYOUT-LP.  Ideal for experimentation and measurements as well
as
>   connections to legacy devices
> 
>   - Includes six internal jumper wires, pre-installed in one of two
>   configurations - the function of each K3 ACC header pin is clearly
labeled
>   on the PC board for reference
> 
>   - Includes one 10K ohm and one 470 ohm resistor to create a Simple SO2R
>   Lockout Circuit (see http://bit.ly/K3lockout and the "Y-BOX Features and
>   Uses" page on the Y-BOX web site).
> 
>   - Includes one (optional) Amphenol 2.5' (0.76m) Male-to-Male DE-15 cable
>   to connect the Y-BOX to the K3 ACC port.
> 
> Reviews from early adopters (local club members and K3 Field Testers) have
> been very positive.  eHam reviews will appear here:
> 
> http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/13296
> 
> Note:  the Y-BOX is not an Elecraft product.  It was offered to Eric, but
> he doesn't want to take on another project at this time.
> 
> The Y-BOX is currently available for immediate shipment, but in limited
> quantities.  When the initial inventory sells out, you may add yourself to
> the Y-BOX Waiting List at no cost (via the PayPal "Continue Shopping"
> button).  Once enough orders are on the waiting list, I'll attempt to
> acquire enough parts to meet the demand.
> 
> In sum, you can get one right away if you order right away, then it may be
> another month or two before I can get all the parts required and build
> another batch.
> 
> "The Y-BOX, Why Not?"
> 
> I look forward to fulfilling your orders soon.
> 
> 73,
> Bob, N6TV
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[Elecraft] Elecraft K3, P3, and accessories for sale

[Ramon Tristani]

Elecraft K3 and Accessories for Sale
by NQ9V

K3/100 Serial #4416 Equipped with:
KBPF3 General Coverage Receive Module
KFL3A-500 
KTCX03-1 K3 TCXO (1 ppm)
KXV3A K3 RX Antenna, IF Out & Transverter Interface
KAT3 - Internal Auto Tuner with additional antenna port
P-3K Panadapter Serial# 315 
Padded Travel Bag by Rose for K3 with extra pockets
Power cable e/w power poles
RS232 cable from P3 to K3
IF cable between P3 and K3
DC cable from K3 to P3
Spiral bound Manuals for K3, P3, K3 and P3 Programmer’s Reference, Fred Cady’s 
K3 Design, Configuration, and Operation (no extra cost)
Both P3 and K3 updated to last firmware (done with K3/P3 Utility)

Total original cost: .. $3579.65
Sale Price: ………   $2027.79
Shipping to USA …  $50.00

Total Sale Price: $2077.79

Since returns are not accepted, I prefer the equipment to be demonstrated and 
tested in front of the future owner or designated witness prior to delivery. 
All systems are in perfect shape, no scratches, always in Air Conditioned 
Environment. 

Payment via PayPal only to:

Ramon Tristani
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[Ramon Tristani]

Test. Please delete.

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Announcing "The Y-BOX", a new 4-way splitter and breakout box for the K3 and K3S

[Bill Johnson]

The jumpers are what make this really clean.  

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne 
Burdick
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 10:43 PM
To: Bob Wilson, N6TV 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Announcing "The Y-BOX", a new 4-way splitter and 
breakout box for the K3 and K3S

Bob, 

This looks like cool accessory that should clean up many a tangled web. We 
actually had something on paper several years ago, but it didn't have as much 
flexibility in wiring signals to RCA jacks, etc. 

The only thing I'd do differently is paint it black and put a logo on it. Or 
figure out a way to make it portable :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Mar 14, 2017, at 11:53 AM, "Bob Wilson, N6TV"  wrote:

> WA6HHQ encouraged me to post this here.
> 
> Wanting to replace the tangled chain of multiple Y-Adapters connected 
> to my
> K3 ACC port with something cleaner and more reliable, I designed a new 
> custom circuit board to fit into a commercial VGA switch box case.  
> The result is a new combination 4-way splitter and breakout box for 
> the K3 and K3S that I'm calling "The Y-BOX".
> 
> You can view photos and place an online order here:
> 
> http://bit.ly/Y-BOX
> 
> 
> Highlights:
> 
>   - Splits one ACC port into four DE-15 female connectors - all 15 pins
>   plus the shield are wired in parallel to every connector
> 
>   - Replaces "VGA splitters" that easily pull apart with reliable
>   thumb-screw connections
> 
>   - Provides four RCA connectors that may be connected to any of the 15
>   ACC port pins (or to each other) with standard wire jumpers, e.g.:  FSK IN,
>   PTT IN, KEYOUT-LP.  Ideal for experimentation and measurements as well as
>   connections to legacy devices
> 
>   - Includes six internal jumper wires, pre-installed in one of two
>   configurations - the function of each K3 ACC header pin is clearly labeled
>   on the PC board for reference
> 
>   - Includes one 10K ohm and one 470 ohm resistor to create a Simple SO2R
>   Lockout Circuit (see http://bit.ly/K3lockout and the "Y-BOX Features and
>   Uses" page on the Y-BOX web site).
> 
>   - Includes one (optional) Amphenol 2.5' (0.76m) Male-to-Male DE-15 cable
>   to connect the Y-BOX to the K3 ACC port.
> 
> Reviews from early adopters (local club members and K3 Field Testers) 
> have been very positive.  eHam reviews will appear here:
> 
> http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/13296
> 
> Note:  the Y-BOX is not an Elecraft product.  It was offered to Eric, 
> but he doesn't want to take on another project at this time.
> 
> The Y-BOX is currently available for immediate shipment, but in 
> limited quantities.  When the initial inventory sells out, you may add 
> yourself to the Y-BOX Waiting List at no cost (via the PayPal "Continue 
> Shopping"
> button).  Once enough orders are on the waiting list, I'll attempt to 
> acquire enough parts to meet the demand.
> 
> In sum, you can get one right away if you order right away, then it 
> may be another month or two before I can get all the parts required 
> and build another batch.
> 
> "The Y-BOX, Why Not?"
> 
> I look forward to fulfilling your orders soon.
> 
> 73,
> Bob, N6TV
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