Re: [Elecraft] Upgrading K3

2017-06-23 Thread Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP
Wouldn't the new subrx also have to have the extra preamp to match the 
one in the KXV3B?


73,
Victor, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
Formerly K2VCO
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
On 24 Jun 2017 02:54, Don Wilhelm wrote:
I believe it has to do with reducing low frequency noise on the 8 volt 
line.


The addition of the capacitor was mentioned by Eric at the FDIM when the 
K3S was introduced.


The new synthesizers made that lower frequency operation possible, and I 
assume that during testing, the noise was noticed.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/23/2017 7:38 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
OK Don, I'll bite:  What does a "220uF Solid Polymer Electrolytic 
Capacitor on the output of the 8 volt regulator" have to do with an 
"extension of the K3 tuning range to 100 KHz?"  Voltage regulators are 
usually found at the far end of the circuit from frequency determining 
components.  Enquiring minds would like to know. [:-)

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Re: [Elecraft] ATU and Bandpass Filter

2017-06-23 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
If one chooses to use band pass filters then one should anticipate using 
an external antenna tuner as well.   This of course depends largely on 
the antenna and the impedance of the antenna at a given frequency.If 
one is using resonant antennas with a reasonably close 50 ohm impedance 
then all is well.  If one is using a multiband antenna the impedance is 
likely to vary widely and be far from 50 ohms.   As to a beam, if it is 
correctly adjusted, it should provide a reasonably close impedance to 50 
ohms on all band for which it is designed.


I find many hams are grossly over concerned with SWR values.  For 
example; 100 ft of RG-8X operating with a 2:1 SWR at 14 MHz will have a 
total loss of 1.5 dB.   Where as the same length of coax with a 1:1 SWR 
will have a loss of 1.2 dB.  A difference of only 0.3 dB.  With the same 
configuration at 28 MHz, the loss with a 2:1 SWR will be 2.1 dB and with 
a 1:1 SWR the loss will be 1.8 dB a difference of 0.3 dB.


My point is..hams are grossly over concerned about having a 1:1 
match.  Factually, it isn't that dang important.   As you can see, there 
is little difference in total loss.  Thus of 100 watts power fed into 
the line at 14 MHz and a 2:1 SWR the power at the antenna will be 70 
watts.  Where as 100 watts fed into the line at 14 MHz with a 1:1 SWR 
the power at the antenna is 75.8 watts.  These are real numbers, thus a 
difference of only ~5 watts.  The only thing affecting loss is the loss 
in the transmission line which is present to some degree regardless of 
the SWR match.


73

Bob, K4TAX



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Re: [Elecraft] ATU and Bandpass Filter

2017-06-23 Thread donovanf
Hi Don, 


The technique you use with monoband horizontal dipoles and 
bandpass filters is exactly what we do at the W3AO Field Day 
site, except we use monoband Yagis rather than dipoles on 40, 
20, 15 and 10 meters. (we also use dipoles on 40M). 


The recent recommendation in the Elecraft Newsletter about using 
two perpendicular horizontal dipoles isn't very effective, and the 
concept was incompletely presented. In order to achieve excellent 
isolation between two perpendicular dipoles, two conditions must 
be met: 


- the second dipole needs to be almost exactly perpendicular 
to the first dipole, even a five degree error significantly reduces 
the isolation. 


- most importantly, the second dipole must be perpendicular 
to the center of the first dipole. An offset of just a few feet 
left or right of center significantly reduces the isolation. 


The advantage of this technique is that two horizontal dipoles can 
be installed in a physically small space with very high isolation, 
but the big disadvantages are that the perpendicular dipoles must 
be precisely positioned a nd inevitably at least one of the dipoles 
is likely to be oriented to an non-optimum azimuth, 


We're fortunate at W3AO to have a 1000 x 200 foot open grass 
field for our Field Days, The technique we use with excellent 
results is to place our antennas for the same band end-to-end with 
300 feet of separation between adjacent antennas. While the 
isolation is significantly less than two precisely positioned 
perpendicular horizontal dipoles, it has the big advantage of having 
both antennas oriented to the same azimuth. 


With four 20 meter Yagis sited end-to-end with 300 foot separation 
between adjacent antennas we routinely operate four transmitters 
(CW SSB RTTY and GOTA) on 20 meters with no trace on interference. 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 




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From: "Don Wilhelm"  
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 12:03:29 AM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ATU and Bandpass Filter 

What Matt said is true. However, if your antennas are close to 
resonance, go ahead and use the ATU to "touch up" the tuning. 

If you are trying to use a multiband antenna such as a G5RV and such, 
you might as well forget the advantage of the bandpass filter. 

Our local club discovered that multiband antennas were a major problem 
at multi-transmitter Field Day sites. We now use single band dipoles, 
and yes we use a bandpass filter for each of the FD bands. 

73, 
Don W3FPR 

On 6/23/2017 4:35 AM, Matt Maguire wrote: 
> The problem is that the filter is designed to work with a 50 ohm 
> characteristic impedance (ie. with a 1:1 VSWR). This means you need to put 
> ATU *after* the filter, not before, otherwise the filter will not work 
> properly. 
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Re: [Elecraft] ATU and Bandpass Filter

2017-06-23 Thread Don Wilhelm

Lane,

Yes, you cannot do that.
We are only discussing the need for the filter to have a 50 ohm 
non-reactive load.
So if you are using a bandpass filter designed for a 50 ohm load (most 
are), then you need to use resonant antennas.


What I was saying is that slight variations from a 50 ohm load may be OK 
("fine tuning" the load), but many so called multiband antennas do not 
meet that criteria.


Try measuring the feedpoint impedance of a G5RV antenna on various 
bands, and you will see that it varies considerably.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/23/2017 9:37 PM, Lane wrote:

I think I'm missing something here. I'm not sure I understand putting
the ATU after the filter since the ATU is internal. How does one put
it after the external BP filter?




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Re: [Elecraft] ATU and Bandpass Filter

2017-06-23 Thread Lane
I think I'm missing something here. I'm not sure I understand putting
the ATU after the filter since the ATU is internal. How does one put
it after the external BP filter?

On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> What Matt said is true.  However, if your antennas are close to resonance,
> go ahead and use the ATU to "touch up" the tuning.
>
> If you are trying to use a multiband antenna such as a G5RV and such, you
> might as well forget the advantage of the bandpass filter.
>
> Our local club discovered that multiband antennas were a major problem at
> multi-transmitter Field Day sites.  We now use single band dipoles, and yes
> we use a bandpass filter for each of the FD bands.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 6/23/2017 4:35 AM, Matt Maguire wrote:
>>
>> The problem is that the filter is designed to work with a 50 ohm
>> characteristic impedance (ie. with a 1:1 VSWR). This means you need to put
>> ATU *after* the filter, not before, otherwise the filter will not work
>> properly.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] ATU and Bandpass Filter

2017-06-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
What Matt said is true.  However, if your antennas are close to 
resonance, go ahead and use the ATU to "touch up" the tuning.


If you are trying to use a multiband antenna such as a G5RV and such, 
you might as well forget the advantage of the bandpass filter.


Our local club discovered that multiband antennas were a major problem 
at multi-transmitter Field Day sites.  We now use single band dipoles, 
and yes we use a bandpass filter for each of the FD bands.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/23/2017 4:35 AM, Matt Maguire wrote:

The problem is that the filter is designed to work with a 50 ohm characteristic 
impedance (ie. with a 1:1 VSWR). This means you need to put ATU *after* the 
filter, not before, otherwise the filter will not work properly.

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[Elecraft] K3 memory editor

2017-06-23 Thread G4GNX
I just started using the K3 memory editor (v1.5.7.20 dated 2015) for the first 
time and I find it behaves in a strange way, depending whether a memory has 
content or not.

At present I have general memories 0 thru 23 loaded with data and memories 85 
thru 99 also loaded. All other memories are ‘empty’.

If I try to read all memories from the K3, the editor program reaches memory 24 
(empty) and stalls. If I click the Cancel button, it reports ‘cancelling’ but 
does nothing. I can abort the action by clicking the red close icon.
When I check the ‘spreadsheet’ I find that memories 0 thru 23 are filled and 
displayed, but not memories 85 thru 99. The only way to read memories 85 thru 
99 is to ‘select’ them first, then read selected.
Attempting to read any empty memory individually results in the function 
stalling.

I also tried clearing a single memory entry and uploading it to the K3, which 
seems to work OK, but attempting to read it back, results in a stall.

Is this normal behavior – a bug, or do I have an old or corrupted memory editor.

73,

Alan. G4GNX

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Re: [Elecraft] Upgrading K3

2017-06-23 Thread Don Wilhelm

I believe it has to do with reducing low frequency noise on the 8 volt line.

The addition of the capacitor was mentioned by Eric at the FDIM when the 
K3S was introduced.


The new synthesizers made that lower frequency operation possible, and I 
assume that during testing, the noise was noticed.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/23/2017 7:38 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
OK Don, I'll bite:  What does a "220uF Solid Polymer Electrolytic 
Capacitor on the output of the 8 volt regulator" have to do with an 
"extension of the K3 tuning range to 100 KHz?"  Voltage regulators are 
usually found at the far end of the circuit from frequency determining 
components.  Enquiring minds would like to know. [:-)

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Re: [Elecraft] For Sale - KX2 Carry Case CS-60

2017-06-23 Thread pkhjr via Elecraft
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Re: [Elecraft] Upgrading K3

2017-06-23 Thread Fred Jensen
OK Don, I'll bite:  What does a "220uF Solid Polymer Electrolytic 
Capacitor on the output of the 8 volt regulator" have to do with an 
"extension of the K3 tuning range to 100 KHz?"  Voltage regulators are 
usually found at the far end of the circuit from frequency determining 
components.  Enquiring minds would like to know. [:-)


73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn

On 6/23/2017 3:21 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Mike,

The KRX3A includes the 220uF Solid Polymer Electrolytic Capacitor on 
the output of the 8 volt regulator.
As far as I know, there is no other difference.  This capacitor allows 
extension of the K3 tuning range (with the modified KBPF3 option) to 
100kHz.  See 
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740264%20KBPF3%20Modification%20Kit%20Instructions%20Rev%20A2.pdf

If you have a KRX3 and KBPF3 to modify.

73,
Don W3FPR


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Re: [Elecraft] Upgrading K3

2017-06-23 Thread Don Wilhelm

Mike,

The KRX3A includes the 220uF Solid Polymer Electrolytic Capacitor on the 
output of the 8 volt regulator.
As far as I know, there is no other difference.  This capacitor allows 
extension of the K3 tuning range (with the modified KBPF3 option) to 
100kHz.  See 
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740264%20KBPF3%20Modification%20Kit%20Instructions%20Rev%20A2.pdf

If you have a KRX3 and KBPF3 to modify.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/23/2017 5:44 PM, Mike Harris wrote:
An interesting question is just what is the difference between the KRX3 
and the KRX3A.

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Re: [Elecraft] Upgrading K3

2017-06-23 Thread Mike Harris
An interesting question is just what is the difference between the KRX3 
and the KRX3A.


Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 23/06/2017 17:57, Gmail - George wrote:

The above assumes the new sub-receiver will operate with the old style
synthesizer!

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Re: [Elecraft] Upgrading K3

2017-06-23 Thread Gmail - George
Christopher,
Many of us who have upgraded have extra old style synthesizers with no plans 
for them.

If the cost of upgrading your main synthesizer is stopping you from getting 
a sub-receiver, I and many others would be glad to loan or give you an old 
style one.

In the long run a sub-receive with new style synthesizers is the way to go; 
but maybe the budget would rather go in 2 steps rather than all at once.

The above assumes the new sub-receiver will operate with the old style 
synthesizer!

73
George
AI4VZ

-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Soames
... if this is the case do I then have too upgrade the existing with the new 
K3S
synthesiser card also?

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Re: [Elecraft] Upgrading K3

2017-06-23 Thread David Bunte
Chris -

The new sub receiver comes with the new synthesizer, so you will only need
to replace the one in your main receiver, if you have not already done
that. The synthesizers must both be the same.

73 de Dave - K9FN

On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Matthew George 
wrote:

> I assume you mean sub receiver?  If so, yes you will need two of the new
> synthesizers.  It's all in the FAQ from 2015 located here on the elecraft
> website: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KSYN3A%20FAQ-ver-C-2.pdf
>
> Well worth the upgrade by the way!
>
> Mg NG7M
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> > On Jun 23, 2017, at 1:59 PM, Christopher Soames 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi I am looking to upgrade my K3 with a sun receiver, to do this am I
> correct in assuming that the new part will come as per K3S spec? if this is
> the case do I then have too upgrade the existing with the new K3S
> synthesiser card also?
> >
> > What else do I then need?
> > regards
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Re: [Elecraft] 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)

2017-06-23 Thread Edward R Cole

Leroy and all,

Guess this opinion is from those who only work HF with a random wire 
dropped over the tree in the backyard.  Sure many tuners can load it 
and you can make some contacts, but it would not compare well with a 
"real yagi" designed for the frequency (which usually means its resonant).


Typical 3-element beam has 6-7 dB gain (not including ground gain 
effects) and my 6-element 6m yagi has 13 dBi free-space gain.  Gain 
provides more than more signal strength is also rejects noise from 
off-point directions.  Most HF wires loaded by atu on 6m produce 
mult-lobe patterns and have terrible efficiency.  You can even use a 
dummy load but it does not make a very good antenna.


A simple resonant half-wave dipole is way better antenna and how hard 
is it to make?  Should not take more than 20 minutes to have one up for FD.


I have quite a bit experience working ground-wave over 70-100 miles 
on 6m and it s**ks.  Of course most of the stations I am trying with 
have either verticals (for 52.50 FM) or loading their HF antenna. Yet 
this same 6-element yagi has worked ZS4TX via 6m eme!  Better believe 
ZS4TX was not loading his 80m dipole for that!


My neighbor 15 miles from me tries to use his G5RV on 6m with 100w 
but I can hardly hear him.  I'm using either my KX3 or K3 + PR6-10 
... with a real 6m antenna.


BTW 2m works way better for ground wave and tropo than 6m; 222 is 
often better than 2m.  VHF propagation is a different "animal" than 
working on HF (10m is closer to 6m in behavior).


BTW, Paul - K7CW is a dedicated 6m operator and runs with four 
stacked 6m yagis (long time friend).


73, Ed - KL7UW



From: "lmarion" 
To: , "Bob McGraw K4TAX"

Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095
(CW)

Yes the tuners are great, and my 160 mtr full wave loop makes a good  6mtr
antenna, especially on receive.

But something about 6 mtrs on a beam, magic.

Hf beams, yeah they do mostly what you expect.  But something about the
short wave length, maybe.

Maybe 2 mtrs is that way too, I don't know.

But every 6 meter beam I have kicks butt.

My KX3 and a portable MFJ 6 meter 3ele beam works like a big gun station.

Leroy AB7CE


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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Noise reduction Test

2017-06-23 Thread Gary Smith
I too would like the NR to use the A & B 
knobs and even greater options with the B 
knob. I think I would find it much easier 
to select the right settings on the fly.

Maybe user selectable in the next or 
upcoming K3/K3s update?

73,

Gary
KA1J

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Re: [Elecraft] Upgrading K3

2017-06-23 Thread Matthew George
I assume you mean sub receiver?  If so, yes you will need two of the new 
synthesizers.  It's all in the FAQ from 2015 located here on the elecraft 
website: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KSYN3A%20FAQ-ver-C-2.pdf

Well worth the upgrade by the way!

Mg NG7M

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> On Jun 23, 2017, at 1:59 PM, Christopher Soames  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi I am looking to upgrade my K3 with a sun receiver, to do this am I correct 
> in assuming that the new part will come as per K3S spec? if this is the case 
> do I then have too upgrade the existing with the new K3S synthesiser card 
> also?
> 
> What else do I then need?
> regards
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[Elecraft] Upgrading K3

2017-06-23 Thread Christopher Soames
Hi I am looking to upgrade my K3 with a sun receiver, to do this am I 
correct in assuming that the new part will come as per K3S spec? if this 
is the case do I then have too upgrade the existing with the new K3S 
synthesiser card also?


What else do I then need?
regards
G0TZZ
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[Elecraft] For Sale - KX2 Carry Case CS-60

2017-06-23 Thread pkhjr via Elecraft
I have a CS-60 which is the large carry case for the KX2.  It's never been
used other than to test the fit. $30 shipped Conus. Paypal preferred

73 Tex
ka5y



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Article on Web pertaining to Telecommunications.

2017-06-23 Thread Raymond Sills
So much for "Nothing new under the sun".   ;)   This news could be huge for the 
future.  Fundamental research scores yet again.  Carl Sagan once said that your 
cannot tell beforehand where advances in research will take you.  (As in solid 
state electronics, lasers, etc).


73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211




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From: Richard Fjeld 
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Sent: Fri, Jun 23, 2017 1:49 pm
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Article on Web pertaining to Telecommunications.

Maybe you saw this. They say the applications are near infinite.

Phys.org: A 100-year-old physics problem has been solved. 
http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwq7GPnjU


Rich, n0ce

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[Elecraft] K3 6M power out

2017-06-23 Thread Mark N2QT via Elecraft
Is it normal for the 6M output to be about 10 watts less than indicated (i.e. 
90w for 100w
setting).  If I do the 50w wattmeter cal on 20 M all bands but 6 are pretty 
much right on.
Conversely if I cal on 6 then all the lower bands are (not surprisingly) 10 
watts high. 

Mark. N2QT
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[Elecraft] Elecraft KX2 Spinner Knob

2017-06-23 Thread jim.gmforum

You may want to look into this more. Shaft design may not be able to support 
such a knob cause of what bearings type it is. May cause damage that you may 
not want on your KX2.

Jim K9TF

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[Elecraft] OT: Article on Web pertaining to Telecommunications.

2017-06-23 Thread Richard Fjeld
Maybe you saw this. They say the applications are near infinite.

Phys.org: A 100-year-old physics problem has been solved. 
http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwq7GPnjU


Rich, n0ce

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[Elecraft] KX2 and Omnirig ...

2017-06-23 Thread john mcleod
Has anybody had any experience with coming up with an omnirig ini file for
the KX2 ? Failing that, any pointers to how to come up with a new file ?
I've read the Afreet readme files, but am still no wiser as to how to go
about this.

Thanks !!

John  N6RCD
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S USB audio output needs to be adjustable in Menu

2017-06-23 Thread Nr4c
There is a Lin Out setting in menu. 

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...nr4c. bill


> On Jun 22, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Dick via Elecraft  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello Elecraft,
> 
> When feeding the audio from the K3S USB port to the CPU, the K3S audio  
> level is extremely high and way too hot for good performance  on many digital 
> modes.  
> 
> Example, even with my CPU's sound card set at the lowest possible level of  
> "01" my K3S is hitting the JT-65 software with a super strong signal that 
> is  much higher than the software wants to see and performance is degraded.   
> The same is true when operating RTTY using MMTTY or 2Tone software.
> 
> The USB audio output on the K3S needs to be adjustable in the K3S Menu as  
> it was on the K3 Serial port.
> 
> I wrote to you a few months ago about this without a positive  reply.  
> Please address this serious issue.
> 
> Thank you-
> 
> Richard Van Zandt- K9OM
> 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 6/2/2017 7:28:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net writes:
> 
> If you  are using Line Out with a fixed gain setting to feed audio to
> WSJT-X,  adjusting the AF control will not do anything. What I do is leave
> my RF  gain control at its normal position (around 3 o'clock) and use the
> slider  at the lower left in the WSJT-X window to compensate for  gain
> variations.
> 
> 73,
> Rich VE3KI
> 
> W3FPR wrote:
> 
>> Bret,
>> 
>> You may have better luck with running the RF Gain full  and adjusting
>> with the AF gain.  That way the RX AGC will smooth  out variations in the
>> signal level.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don  W3FPR
> 
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[Elecraft] K3S/100 - Add a KPA500/KAT500?

2017-06-23 Thread MaverickNH
I figure when that KPA1500 comes out there will be a few KPA500/KAT500 units
up for sale ;-) I'm thinking to add a used set to my K3S/100 and would like
advice on adapting my system. 

At present, my remote ATUs are only rated to 100W (LDG RC/RT100 at base of
G5RV) and 200W (MFJ-927), so I'll need to bump those up. In fact, I might
recall the WA2NAN True-Talk 102ft G5RV was rated to 100W maximum, but I'm
not sure and can't find information on the internet. Might be used of a 500W
rated remote ATU at base will allow 500W or could the antenna construction
of that G5RV be limiting?

My other antenna is a DX Engineering 43ft vertical which looks to be rated
to 1500W with a different remote base ATU.

All of my Common Mode Chokes are rated to 500W or more. My current
connectors are PL-259/SO239. I might need to replace a few lightning
arresters rated 400W PEP?

Appreciate advise and comments - especially if the bump from 100W to 500W
will be worth the trouble!

BRET/N4SRN



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Re: [Elecraft] 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)

2017-06-23 Thread Charlie T, K3ICH
I think a lot of that comes from the fact that the average active 6M station 
runs a modest beam & 100 W.
So, any less than that average is at a disadvantage.
Obviously some run yuge beams and legal limit. Those station get through 1st, 
followed by the average stations and finally the rest.
6M offers every propagation mode known at one time or another. However, some 
openings only last a matter of minutes.
This is especially true for multiple hop sporadic E, not so much as when the 
MUF makes it to 50 MHz for true F2 openings.
F2 seems to last a tad longer.  Sporadic E can also be very localized where 
stations 50 miles apart are not in the "skip-zone".
During very active times, a few of us in the DC area keep in touch on 2M FM. We 
have all found for example, many times a station in Baltimore MD will hear the 
DX fine but someone in say, in no. Virginia hears nothing.
Give it twenty minutes and the situation reverses.
I have been active on 50MHz for over 50 years.  Taking advantage of the 6M 
propagation requires much more listening than transmitting because, relating to 
the comment above, calling a station in the noise is probably just clobbering 
the guys who CAN hear it.
Listen 1st. Analyze who's working what and where before just blasting away.
The beacons around 50.05 to 50.08 will tell you where the propagation is 
favoring. These beacons are all over the world, so use them to your advantage.

73, Charlie k3ICH



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of lmarion
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:55 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Bob McGraw K4TAX 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6 meters open this morning; listening 50.095 (CW)

Yes the tuners are great, and my 160 mtr full wave loop makes a good  6mtr 
antenna, especially on receive.

But something about 6 mtrs on a beam, magic.

Hf beams, yeah they do mostly what you expect.  But something about the short 
wave length, maybe.

Maybe 2 mtrs is that way too, I don't know.

But every 6 meter beam I have kicks butt.

My KX3 and a portable MFJ 6 meter 3ele beam works like a big gun station.

Leroy AB7CE



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Re: [Elecraft] ATU and Bandpass Filter

2017-06-23 Thread Matt Maguire
The problem is that the filter is designed to work with a 50 ohm characteristic 
impedance (ie. with a 1:1 VSWR). This means you need to put ATU *after* the 
filter, not before, otherwise the filter will not work properly.

73 de Matt VK2RQ

> On 23 Jun 2017, at 1:13 pm, Lane  
> wrote:
> 
> A question about the K2. Taking it to the club for FD and I have a
> bandpass filter (CF-20) which says "Never use radio's internal tuner
> with filter."
> 
> I have the internal ATU installed. Is there a way to bypass that? Or
> should I just use the "main antenna" jack (manual says never use if
> ATU installed) on the bottom left, instead of the two midway in the
> middle?
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