Re: [Elecraft] K3 configuration or control software?

2017-12-25 Thread Jim N7US
Eric,

I believe you're thinking about K3_EZ, which was written by W2BC, who is now
a SK.  I just uploaded three versions to the Files folder in the Elecraft_K3
Yahoo Group.  I think the last version had a bug in the TX audio settings,
but I'm not sure.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Elecraft_K3/files/K3_EZ/ 

The Zip files are each about 7MB.

73, Jim N7US

-Original Message-

Back when I last owned a K3 (2009?), I had a piece of software that would,
among other things plot the SWR of the antenna attached to the radio. 

Now that I've picked up K3, I'd love to find the software in question. It's
not the current Elecraft K3 configuration program, the Win4K3Suite, or
N4PY's software packages. 

Is anyone familiar with the software I'm thinking about?  

 

Thanks, 

Eric W3DQ


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Re: [Elecraft] IC-7610 added to Sherwood's list

2017-12-25 Thread John_N1JM
Nice radio but not a K3s by any stretch of the imagination. I have both.

73, John N1JM


Don Wilhelm-5 wrote
> Rob’s IC-7610 RX performance measurements are now posted, at 
> sherweng.com. The ‘7610 came in twelfth on his list.
> The real shocker is the BDR: only 119 to 122 dB. That’s 30 dB weaker 
> than the K3S and only 1 dB better than the IC-7300. I guess no one is 
> using these rigs in high-signal conditions.
> 
> Bragging rights for the K3, KX3 and K3S owners.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
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[Elecraft] K3 configuration or control software?

2017-12-25 Thread Eric Rosenberg
Back when I last owned a K3 (2009?), I had a piece of software that would,
among other things plot the SWR of the antenna attached to the radio. 

 

Now that I've picked up K3, I'd love to find the software in question. It's
not the current Elecraft K3 configuration program, the Win4K3Suite, or
N4PY's software packages. 

 

Is anyone familiar with the software I'm thinking about?  

 

Thanks, 

Eric W3DQ

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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Heil ProSet K2 with Kenwood TH-D72a HT?

2017-12-25 Thread Don Wilhelm

Bret,

The Proset K2 has an electret microphone, and needs a bias voltage applied.
So if your TH-D72 does not provide bias for the mic element it would not 
produce audio.


The Heil Proset is available in several models, it is important to state 
which one it is.  The Proset-K2 and the Proset-iC both have electret 
emic elements, while the others use dynamic microphone elements and do 
not need bias (should not have it).


Bottom line, I suspect your Proset-K2 will not work with the TH-D72a. 
If you want to check for certain, turn power on and measure the voltage 
between ground and the AF microphone pin.  If you find a positive 
voltage from 5 to 8 volts, the Proset-K2 will work with the proper 
adapter, but if the voltage is zero, that particular Proset will not work.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/25/2017 3:54 PM, MaverickNH wrote:

My Heil ProSet K2 headset works great with my K3S, of course. I just got a
used kenwood TH-D72a HT for some satellite fun and wonder if the Heil
headset will work with the HT? The TH-D72a lists:
Microphone Impedance2 kΩ
Audio Output (at 8 Ω, 10 % distortion)  More than 300 mW (at 7.4 V)

But I don’t know the Heil specs or if I can get an adaptor. Any help
appreciated.

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[Elecraft] If you celebrate it

2017-12-25 Thread Gary Smith
Merry Christmas! 

And if you do not, I hope you had a truly 
wonderful day.

Cheers to all,

73,

Gary
KA1J
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Re: [Elecraft] K3s IF bandwidth?

2017-12-25 Thread K9MA
Yes, they are bandpass filters, to reject the image 16 MHz from the 
desired frequency, among other things.  There are, of course, also low 
pass filters, to reduce transmitted harmonics.


73,
Scott K9MA

On 12/25/2017 16:27, ab2tc wrote:

Hi again,

Heavens no, they are definitely bandpass filters, tailored to each ham band.
I think I have seen a plot of their responses somewhere,  but can't remember
where. Each filter covers 2 bands with a relay to choose which one of the
two.

AB2TC - Knut


David Gilbert wrote

I could be wrong, but I thought they were low pass filters, not band
pass.  I think each filter even covers more than one band if they are
within an octave or something like that.

Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.

Dave   AB7E



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Re: [Elecraft] |KX2 Deaf on 7.0

2017-12-25 Thread K9MA
It might be worth taking a look at the bandpass filters, just to see if 
there's a broken inductor wire, or something else simple.  I've always 
been suspicious of those toroids supported only by their leads.  You 
could also just do some continuity tests, to make sure the relays are OK.


Unfortunately, the filters are on the main circuit board.  If you can't 
fix it yourself, you'll have to send the whole radio to Elecraft.


73,
Scott K9MA

On 12/25/2017 14:21, Tony G6GLP wrote:

Hi Howard,
Thanks for the info on the closed days
I hadnt tried the RX on 60m but just have and it seems to be similarly 
affected.

The TX on 60 also shows continuous 25.4 swr.
Sounds even more likely the band pass filter now is faulty.

73 de Tony G6GLP



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Re: [Elecraft] K3s IF bandwidth?

2017-12-25 Thread ab2tc
Hi again,

Heavens no, they are definitely bandpass filters, tailored to each ham band.
I think I have seen a plot of their responses somewhere,  but can't remember
where. Each filter covers 2 bands with a relay to choose which one of the
two.

AB2TC - Knut


David Gilbert wrote
> I could be wrong, but I thought they were low pass filters, not band 
> pass.  I think each filter even covers more than one band if they are 
> within an octave or something like that.
> 
> Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.
> 
> Dave   AB7E





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Re: [Elecraft] K3s IF bandwidth?

2017-12-25 Thread David Gilbert


I could be wrong, but I thought they were low pass filters, not band 
pass.  I think each filter even covers more than one band if they are 
within an octave or something like that.


Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.

Dave   AB7E


On 12/25/2017 11:10 AM, ab2tc wrote:

Hi all and Merry Christmas,

Well, the ham band specific HF filters are probably significantly narrower
than 2MHz, tailored to the actual width of the band in question. I don't
know if there is a way to tell the K3(S) to use a general coverage filter,
if installed, even if inside a ham band. That would circumvent the problem.

AB2TC - Knut


tomb18 wrote

HiIf you connect an sdrplay to the if output you can see over  2mhz
bandwidth. 73 Tom






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[Elecraft] [OT] Heil ProSet K2 with Kenwood TH-D72a HT?

2017-12-25 Thread MaverickNH
My Heil ProSet K2 headset works great with my K3S, of course. I just got a
used kenwood TH-D72a HT for some satellite fun and wonder if the Heil
headset will work with the HT? The TH-D72a lists:
Microphone Impedance2 kΩ
Audio Output (at 8 Ω, 10 % distortion)  More than 300 mW (at 7.4 V)

But I don’t know the Heil specs or if I can get an adaptor. Any help
appreciated.

Bret/N4SRN



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Re: [Elecraft] |KX2 Deaf on 7.0

2017-12-25 Thread Tony G6GLP

Hi Howard,
Thanks for the info on the closed days
I hadnt tried the RX on 60m but just have and it seems to be similarly 
affected.

The TX on 60 also shows continuous 25.4 swr.
Sounds even more likely the band pass filter now is faulty.

73 de Tony G6GLP



On 25/12/2017 19:55, Howard Stephenson wrote:

Hi Tony,

It's my understanding that Elecraft will be closed Monday and Tuesday for
the holiday

For your KX2 issue, did you also test into a dummy load on  60M?
The KX2 shares  the LPF on 40M and 60M  (page 14 in the schematics package)



Re: [Elecraft] |KX2 Deaf on 7.0

2017-12-25 Thread Howard Stephenson
Hi Tony,

It's my understanding that Elecraft will be closed Monday and Tuesday for
the holiday

For your KX2 issue, did you also test into a dummy load on  60M?
The KX2 shares  the LPF on 40M and 60M  (page 14 in the schematics package)




73,
Howard K6IA
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 164, Issue 22

2017-12-25 Thread JamesDuffey
Joe - Receiver topology probably doesn’t have a lot to do with the variability 
in Bob’ s measurements.  Note, for example, the similar difference in narrow 
spaced dynamic range, 10dB, between the  K2 measured on 10/03/04 and that 
measured on 2/27/04. - Duffey KK6MC

James Duffey KK6MC
Cedar Crest NM

> On Dec 25, 2017, at 11:17, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
> 
> 
> The other explanation would be simply that direct sampling SDR has a
> far wider measurement variability than traditional receiver topology.
> Note the 12 dB difference in IMDDR3 between Flex 6700 on 9/29/14 and
> the Flex 6700 measured on 3/17/17.
> 
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] |KX2 Deaf on 7.0

2017-12-25 Thread Tony G6GLP

Hi Don, Seasons greeting to you.
The problem is only on 40m (7.0mhz) and I suspect band pass filters as 
nothing wrong with ANT and the same result into a dummy load. When I 
press the tune the display shows 0.0 jumps to 10.0 and straight back to 
0. I am suspecting a trip to the hospital is going to be called for.
I am not sure when the factory will be back from holidays but e message 
in the queue will be dealt with as and when. I am not in a desperate 
hurry so I guess we will work it out. They all deserve holidays.

Thanks for the pointers.

73 de Tony G6GLP



On 25/12/2017 17:38, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Tony,

The SWR of 25 tells me there is a problem with either your antenna or 
the ATU.  Try it into a dummy load (do an ATU TUNE into the dummy load 
first).


If you still get a high SWR with the dummy load, I would contact 
Elecraft support for assistance.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/25/2017 6:08 AM, Tony G6GLP wrote:

Hi All,
My KX2 seems to be both deaf and mute on 40m. 80m is alive and well 
as are other bands. The KX2 is pre loved (I hope) and is fitted with 
the atu and clock. Any suggestions on where to start. I tried moving 
the antenna plug but no difference.
When I press the atu button it displays 25-1  all through the tune. 
No RF comes out at any point. 40m is the band I wanted to use but 
thats a bust for now till it is fixed.




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Re: [Elecraft] K3s IF bandwidth?

2017-12-25 Thread ab2tc
Hi all and Merry Christmas,

Well, the ham band specific HF filters are probably significantly narrower
than 2MHz, tailored to the actual width of the band in question. I don't
know if there is a way to tell the K3(S) to use a general coverage filter,
if installed, even if inside a ham band. That would circumvent the problem.

AB2TC - Knut


tomb18 wrote
> HiIf you connect an sdrplay to the if output you can see over  2mhz
> bandwidth. 73 Tom 
> 





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Re: [Elecraft] K3s IF bandwidth?

2017-12-25 Thread Jim Miller
Thanks all!

Jim ab3cv

On Dec 25, 2017, at 12:37 PM, tomb18  wrote:

Hi
If you connect an sdrplay to the if output you can see over  2mhz bandwidth. 
73 Tom 



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

 Original message 
From: Don Wilhelm 
Date: 2017-12-25 12:31 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Jim Miller , Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3s IF bandwidth?

Jim,

The IF takeoff point in the K3 is right after the 8.215mHz mixer, so at 
that point, it has a very wide bandwidth.
The K3 filtering is after that IF takeoff point, so any filtering in the 
K3 will not affect that bandwidth.

I don't know how much wider than 200kHz the IF takeoff might be.
200kHz is a substantial portion of any band.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/25/2017 12:17 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
> The P3 displays a maximum of 200khz. Is that the maximum useful K3 IF 
> bandwidth or is it wider?
> 
> 73
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] |KX2 Deaf on 7.0

2017-12-25 Thread Don Wilhelm

Tony,

The SWR of 25 tells me there is a problem with either your antenna or 
the ATU.  Try it into a dummy load (do an ATU TUNE into the dummy load 
first).


If you still get a high SWR with the dummy load, I would contact 
Elecraft support for assistance.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/25/2017 6:08 AM, Tony G6GLP wrote:

Hi All,
My KX2 seems to be both deaf and mute on 40m. 80m is alive and well as 
are other bands. The KX2 is pre loved (I hope) and is fitted with the 
atu and clock. Any suggestions on where to start. I tried moving the 
antenna plug but no difference.
When I press the atu button it displays 25-1  all through the tune. No 
RF comes out at any point. 40m is the band I wanted to use but thats a 
bust for now till it is fixed.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3s IF bandwidth?

2017-12-25 Thread tomb18
HiIf you connect an sdrplay to the if output you can see over  2mhz bandwidth. 
73 Tom 


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 Original message From: Don Wilhelm  
Date: 2017-12-25  12:31 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Jim Miller , 
Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3s IF bandwidth? 
Jim,

The IF takeoff point in the K3 is right after the 8.215mHz mixer, so at 
that point, it has a very wide bandwidth.
The K3 filtering is after that IF takeoff point, so any filtering in the 
K3 will not affect that bandwidth.

I don't know how much wider than 200kHz the IF takeoff might be.
200kHz is a substantial portion of any band.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/25/2017 12:17 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
> The P3 displays a maximum of 200khz. Is that the maximum useful K3 IF 
> bandwidth or is it wider?
> 
> 73
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Re: [Elecraft] K3s IF bandwidth?

2017-12-25 Thread Don Wilhelm

Jim,

The IF takeoff point in the K3 is right after the 8.215mHz mixer, so at 
that point, it has a very wide bandwidth.
The K3 filtering is after that IF takeoff point, so any filtering in the 
K3 will not affect that bandwidth.


I don't know how much wider than 200kHz the IF takeoff might be.
200kHz is a substantial portion of any band.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/25/2017 12:17 PM, Jim Miller wrote:

The P3 displays a maximum of 200khz. Is that the maximum useful K3 IF bandwidth 
or is it wider?

73

Jim ab3cv
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[Elecraft] K3s IF bandwidth?

2017-12-25 Thread Jim Miller
The P3 displays a maximum of 200khz. Is that the maximum useful K3 IF bandwidth 
or is it wider?

73

Jim ab3cv 
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Re: [Elecraft] IC-7610 added to Sherwood's list

2017-12-25 Thread Michael Walker
Yes,

And while you can do SO2R with the dual antenna configuration, you can't
really do SO2R the way it should be as it doesn't handle OTRSP to handle
the audio switching.  At least, from what I have seen.  That can limit some
contesting features.

Mike  va3mw

On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 7:31 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:

>
> Be careful!  The IC-7610 lacks a second "Line Out" connection for the
> sub-receiver.  That means that the user can not feed each receiver to
> the left/right channels of the  soundcard and decode data modes on both
> receivers at the same time ... think monitoring a DX station and
> listening for callers in the (split) pile up at the same time, etc.
>
> 73,
>
>... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 12/25/2017 12:37 AM, a**@sbcglobal wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Dave. I used that extra word “full” for no reason. Thanks for
>> confirming that it does diversity. I had heard that the VFOs weren’t
>> actually phase-locked. Glad to hear they are.
>>
>> Merry Christmas,
>>
>> Al. W6LX
>>
>> On Dec 24, 2017, at 8:56 PM, David Bunte  wrote:
>>>
>>> Al -
>>>
>>> The published specs indicate "diversity" (not just dual watch). If there
>>> is a difference between "diversity" and "full diversity" it is not
>>> something of which I am aware.
>>>
>>> Dave - K9FN
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 11:12 PM, Al Lorona 
 wrote:
 Does anybody know if the "dual RX" is full diversity reception?

 Al  W6LX




 ...to support the "dual RX" capability of the 7610.
>>>
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[Elecraft] The Icom touch screen??

2017-12-25 Thread Bill
My only experience with a touch screen is my iPhone - which I find to be 
very inaccurate, ineffective, and is most certainly addressed with many 
four letter word invectives. My hands are not large, I do not shake, I 
am a reasonable sketch artist, and was, at one time, a world class 
shooter. With that in mind, I have pretty much written the 7300 and 7610 
off as something I would not be happy with - due to the touch screen.


I control my K3 with a KPod and a Genovation keypad. Accurate and 
repeatable operation/control at all times.


OK - that is my take. I have not tried a 7300/7610 first hand. The only 
way I can do that is to purchase same and have it sent to me. So - any 
experienced comments out there? Am I wrong in my touch screen 
assumptions? Or, is the touch screen really the greatest thing since 
sliced bread?


Bill W2BLC K-Line


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Re: [Elecraft] IC-7610 added to Sherwood's list

2017-12-25 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


Be careful!  The IC-7610 lacks a second "Line Out" connection for the
sub-receiver.  That means that the user can not feed each receiver to
the left/right channels of the  soundcard and decode data modes on both
receivers at the same time ... think monitoring a DX station and
listening for callers in the (split) pile up at the same time, etc.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 12/25/2017 12:37 AM, a**@sbcglobal wrote:

Thanks, Dave. I used that extra word “full” for no reason. Thanks for 
confirming that it does diversity. I had heard that the VFOs weren’t actually 
phase-locked. Glad to hear they are.

Merry Christmas,

Al. W6LX


On Dec 24, 2017, at 8:56 PM, David Bunte  wrote:

Al -

The published specs indicate "diversity" (not just dual watch). If there is a difference between 
"diversity" and "full diversity" it is not something of which I am aware.

Dave - K9FN


On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 11:12 PM, Al Lorona  wrote:
Does anybody know if the "dual RX" is full diversity reception?

Al  W6LX





...to support the "dual RX" capability of the 7610.

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[Elecraft] |KX2 Deaf on 7.0

2017-12-25 Thread Tony G6GLP

Hi All,
My KX2 seems to be both deaf and mute on 40m. 80m is alive and well as 
are other bands. The KX2 is pre loved (I hope) and is fitted with the 
atu and clock. Any suggestions on where to start. I tried moving the 
antenna plug but no difference.
When I press the atu button it displays 25-1  all through the tune. No 
RF comes out at any point. 40m is the band I wanted to use but thats a 
bust for now till it is fixed.


73 de Tony G6GLP

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