Re: [Elecraft] KPOD

[turnbull]

Friends,    I use the Kpod  to easily access memory and voice keyer messages.   
 The K3 panel is too tight to reliably hit the right button each time and it it 
is a reach forcing me to keep my arm raised.    Also find it handy to tune the 
K3 as it is again an easier reach.    I am grateful that Elecraft finally 
brought this accessory out.   At one time I had given up hope that it would 
ever be introduced.   TU Elecraft.   73 Doug EI2CN


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 Original message From: Don Butler  Date: 
26/06/2018  05:30  (GMT+00:00) To: Edward , 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPOD 
I bought two KPODs right away Ed.   I’m a DXer and have always enjoyed busting 
pileups … especially the big ones that take up lots of bandwidth.   IMHO the K3 
VFO B knob has always been rather klunky …. Doesn’t spin easily…. Small, etc… 
so has always been awkward to use it while searching through a large split 
pileup while trying to find the station the DX is calling….. so I use the KPOD 
to tune VFO B most of the time…. And it works great …. The P3 and Subreceiver 
are also really great tools for the big pileups.   I use the programmable KPOD 
buttons a lot …. A few for sending recorded DVR messages (both CW and SSB) …. 
And others for switching A/B, A>B, Split +2, Split +5, Split/Unsplit, 
Subreceiver on/off …. And switching power between 100W and 30W (for driving the 
amp) …. Now that I have a KPA1500 which can do the drive power switching for me 
when I go between operate and standby there’s no need for the power switching 
anymore … 

I love my KPODs

Don, N5LZ

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From: Edward via Elecraft
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 10:11 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KPOD

Is anybody using the KPOD and if so, seeing it’s benefit?

73,
Ed NI6S
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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day Report

[Bill Frantz]

The West Valley Amateur Radio Association returned to Mora Hill 
above Los Altos, Ca for field day. We used K6EI for our main 
call and W6ZZZ for GOTA. This year we were 14A, QRP, battery and 
solar panel powered. We had the luxury of lots of panels, so we 
were able to have a 120V utility for running our computers. We 
also had enough extra power to run our fans etc., as the 
temperatures on Saturday were in the high 90s (c36C or so).


Note, we are not permitted to operate generators at night, so we 
don't use them at all.


We were in category 14A with 3 CW stations, 3 SSB stations, and 
2 digital stations on HF. VHF and UHF filled the rest of the 
transmitter slots. We had separate triband antennas for CW, SSB, 
and digital with triband filters to allow use of all three bands 
at once. We also had separate wire antennas for 40M and 80M. 
GOTA had its own set of antennas. Getting all this set up took 
the better part of the daylight on Friday. (Thanks ARRL for the 
rule change that permits early setup Friday when it is cooler.)


We minimize interference between stations on the same band by 
careful antenna placement, running QRP, using Elecraft and Flex 
gear, and providing adequate voltage to the radios. I could see 
our CW stations on the P3 while operating digital, but they were 
just strong CW stations and caused no interference.


Our networked N1MM logging system lets us cheer every time we 
pass a QSO count milepost, as well as providing lots of backup 
for the logs.


Our GOTA operation was quite popular, with QSOs 150% of last 
year. Since we are next to a popular trail in the San Antonio 
Open Space Preserve, we get a lot of bicycle visitors. Some know 
about ham radio and others have never heard of it.


It appears our main operation QSO count was slightly ahead of 
last year, but I haven't seen a full comparison yet.


We got lots of people on the air, with some trying new modes for 
the first time. I counted 21 people who actually made it into 
the group photo. Everyone had a good time and went home tired.


73 Bill AE6JV

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Re: [Elecraft] KPOD

[Don Butler]

I bought two KPODs right away Ed.   I’m a DXer and have always enjoyed busting 
pileups … especially the big ones that take up lots of bandwidth.   IMHO the K3 
VFO B knob has always been rather klunky …. Doesn’t spin easily…. Small, etc… 
so has always been awkward to use it while searching through a large split 
pileup while trying to find the station the DX is calling….. so I use the KPOD 
to tune VFO B most of the time…. And it works great …. The P3 and Subreceiver 
are also really great tools for the big pileups.   I use the programmable KPOD 
buttons a lot …. A few for sending recorded DVR messages (both CW and SSB) …. 
And others for switching A/B, A>B, Split +2, Split +5, Split/Unsplit, 
Subreceiver on/off …. And switching power between 100W and 30W (for driving the 
amp) …. Now that I have a KPA1500 which can do the drive power switching for me 
when I go between operate and standby there’s no need for the power switching 
anymore … 

I love my KPODs

Don, N5LZ

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From: Edward via Elecraft
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 10:11 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KPOD

Is anybody using the KPOD and if so, seeing it’s benefit?

73,
Ed NI6S
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[Elecraft] KPOD

[Edward via Elecraft]

Is anybody using the KPOD and if so, seeing it’s benefit?

73,
Ed NI6S
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S HI SIGNAL

[donovanf]

Hi David, 


My description of our W3AO Field Day antenna configuration was 
simplified to illustrate the benefits of a North/South straight line of 
antennas. 


We actually installed twelve 48 foot masts in two 950 foot North/South 
straight lines separated by 150 feet. We couldn't fit 22 antennas in 
a single 950 foot line! Mast and antenna installation and deployment 
of more than 7000 feet of RG-213 began at 10 a.m. Friday and was 
completed seven hours later. It took less than four hours to dismantle 
the entire site. 


Our site is a school/athletic field complex with more than 25 acres of 
mowed grass and no trees, its slightly elevated above surrounding terrain. 
This type of school/athletic field complex is very common in Maryland. 
Its an ideal Field Day site if you have many portable masts. But our 
VHF ops would still prefer a mountain top location... 


We installed twelve 48 foot masts in two 950 foot North/South lines. 


950 foot line with seven 48 foot masts and 11 antennas broadside E/W: 


0 feet: GOTA Tribander 
80 GOTA dipole 
150 feet: 15 CW 3 element Yagi 
80 RTTY dipole 
300 feet: 20 CW 3 element Yagi 
500 feet: 15 SSB 3 element Yagi 
650 feet: 20 SSB 3 element Yagi 
80 CW dipole 
800 feet: 15 RTTY 3 element Yagi 
80 SSB dipole 
950 feet: 20 RTTY 3 element Yagi 




950 foot line, 150 feet to the East, with five 48 foot masts and 11 antennas 
broadside E/W: 


0 feet: 40 CW 2 element Yagi 
40 CW dipole 
250 feet: 10 CW 3 element Yagi 
40 GOTA dipole 
400 feet: 50/144/432 MHz rotatable Yagis 
40 RTTY dipole 
800 feet: 10 SSB 3 element Yagi 
40 SSB dipole 
950 feet: 40 SSB 2 element Yagi 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 











- Original Message -

From: "david"  
To: donov...@starpower.net 
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 2:23:17 AM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S HI SIGNAL 




At W4UA, we don't have that luxury...the trees are what they are. We have one 
beam and several dipoles. What I think happened is that the beam operator swung 
the beam so it was pointing at the broadside of my doublet, while we were both 
on the same band... poof. 


But, now I'm curious...I know you were 15A, but 15 dipoles 100 feet apart is 
more than 1000 feet... 




On Mon, 2018-06-25 at 12:07 -0400, donov...@starpower.net wrote: 


We routinely operate three or more K3 transceivers on the same band 
at W3AO, four on the band our GOTA station is operating. Not only 
is there no damage to the K3s and no HI SIG warnings, we don't hear 
any cross-station interference at all! 


The trick is to use horizontally polarized antennas installed tip-to-tip 
with at least 100 feet of spacing between each other. 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 


- Original Message -

From: "aj4tf"  
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 10:06:16 AM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S HI SIGNAL 

Thanks for the inputs on and off list. It appears that during FD we may have 
had two rigs on the same band inadvertently. I'll be talking with support 
this week. By the way, I got a personal message from Wayne on this topic. 
Do you think that would happen with Yacomwood? 

David AJ4TF 
Elecraft fan for life 




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Re: [Elecraft] K3S HI SIGNAL

[aj4tf]

Elecraft Service is on the case, the K3S is making the trip back to the
mother ship.  

I forgot to mention,  K2 #7006 worked flawlessly as it always does during
Field Day.  

73, David AJ4TF



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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 / KXPD2 shorting with stuck dots and "ERR KEY"

[Michael Jarvis]

This was it! The screw heads protrude a tiny bit from the back side of the 
housing. The protrusion is a VERY small amount--probably less than a 
millimeter, but that's enough to make contact with the case when tightened 
securely.

I had already left for my camping trip when I received your response, and I 
didn't have adhesive tape handy, but instead I took a very thin piece of 
cardboard and placed it between the KXPD2 and the KX2 housing, and that 
resolved the problem for now.

I will contact support tomorrow about a more permanent fix. In the meantime, 
placing the thin insulating layer between the KXPD2 and the KX2 is a 
satisfactory work-around.  

Thank you very much!

73,
Mike Jarvis - N5MAJ

> On Jun 17, 2018, at 8:42 AM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> It sounds like your KXPD2 may have a 3D printed housing that was prepared 
> incorrectly (sanded too much on the  back side). This could leave the screw 
> heads slightly exposed. You can contact support to obtain a replacement.
> 
> As a temporary workaround, place a bit of adhesive label material on the 
> back, over the screws.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.elecraft.com
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2018, at 11:37 PM, Michael Jarvis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, 
>> 
>> I'm a fairly new owner of a KX2 with a KXPD2 paddle, and I just noticed this 
>> evening that something is causing the paddle to get "stuck" sending dots. I 
>> have backed off the contacts and verified that the little wires aren't 
>> shorted, and I seem to have narrowed down the problem to how snugly it is 
>> attached to the KX2. 
>> 
>> If I tighten then thumb screws finger-snug, it starts sending dits as if 
>> it's shorted. Backing off the thumb screws a bit seems to help with the 
>> issue. Obviously there's a short somewhere, but I'm not sure where to check. 
>> I'm not sure why the tightness of the thumb screws on the KXPD2 would cause 
>> a short. 
>> 
>> Does anyone have any suggestions on what to try next? I'm leaving for a 
>> camping trip tomorrow, and I'm taking the KX2 with me. I had hoped to use 
>> the KXPD2 paddle, but it looks like I may be packing one of my other paddles 
>> for this trip just in case. 
>> 
>> Any suggestions will be appreciated! Thanks!
>> 
>> 73, Mike Jarvis - N5MAJ
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 kit build problem

[ab2tc]

Hi Don,

I know this is OT, I apologize. I have at least three of the bright yellow
meters from Harbor Freight and I love them. I have checked them all against
NIST certified meters at work and they are all accurate to all digits shown.
Not bad for a 3 to 6 dollars (or 0 as you indicate) instrument. In general I
am skeptical about most of Harbor Freight's offerings, but this one is a
winner.

AB2TC - Knut


Don,

I am glad to hear that you solved your problem.
Some DMMs (but very few) reverse the polarity of the red and black probes.

I trust you were using a modern DMM as opposed to an older VTVM or VOM. 
Those older meters have voltages when measuring resistance that will 
turn on semiconductor junctions.
If that is what you are using, get a proper DMM for the K2 and any other 
semiconductor project.  The inexpensive (or free with a coupon) DMMs 
offered by Harbor Freight are adequate for your measurements on a K2.  I 
have 4 of them in various places for when I need a quick reading.  If I 
need real accuracy coupled with speed of response, I use my expensive Fluke.

73,
Don W3FPR





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Re: [Elecraft] Microphone in 12 Watts

[john]

What is KPA3 set to in your K3S?Perhaps your 100w amp (if one is installed) 
is bypassed.

 

John KK9A

 

From: German Duran [mailto:hk3j...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 12:50 PM
To: j...@kk9a.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Microphone in 12 Watts

 

My problem is that my transceiver does not have 100 Watts. It only reaches 12 W 
maximum on the PWR knob. You say "make sure that it is turned on in

the menu. "I ask" turned on in the menu "where ??

German HK3J

 

El dom., 24 jun. 2018 a las 11:00,  escribió:

If the transceiver has the 100 watt amp, make sure that it is turned on in
the menu.

John KK9A

German Duran hk3j wrote: 

Dear friends:
When I did resetting of my Elecraft K3s, the microphone is fixed at 12 W.
How do I make the microphone increase the power? Thank you.
Germán HK3J

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 kit build problem

[Don Wilhelm]

Don,

I am glad to hear that you solved your problem.
Some DMMs (but very few) reverse the polarity of the red and black probes.

I trust you were using a modern DMM as opposed to an older VTVM or VOM. 
Those older meters have voltages when measuring resistance that will 
turn on semiconductor junctions.
If that is what you are using, get a proper DMM for the K2 and any other 
semiconductor project.  The inexpensive (or free with a coupon) DMMs 
offered by Harbor Freight are adequate for your measurements on a K2.  I 
have 4 of them in various places for when I need a quick reading.  If I 
need real accuracy coupled with speed of response, I use my expensive Fluke.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/25/2018 8:07 PM, Don Schroder wrote:

Ok, I’m confused. But I have an excuse (I’m old). I remeasured and both pins were 
> 20K! Problem solved it’s self.

I should have known that touching the probe tips would change the resistance, 
because I have a lot of resistance especially
When the wife “tells me” tp do something! I also played taps at gravesites for 
three years while in high school.

Thank you all for your kind words. I’m excited. A great radio (K2), a great 
reflector, and great friends a-coming!

So, no problem so far (Yea ).

Don, KE0PVQ

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From: Dave Sublette
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 5:18 PM
To: donandde...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 kit build problem

Hello Don,

Welcome to ham radio and to the Elecraft Family.  I am not an official or 
employee of Elecraft.  Watch for an answer from Don, W3FPR.  He is an official 
Elecraft repair guy and he knows what he is doing.

I don't want to insult your intelligence or experience, but I have to ask that 
you make sure you are not touching the metal parts of the probe tips when you 
make these measurements. Your body resistance will lower the readings, 
especially if they are supposed to be more than 20K.  Also, look for solder 
bridges or splashes that aren't supposed to be there.

This is a great reflector and someone will have the answer.  I built a K2 in 
2004 and it is a great rig.

I am 76 and an retired Electronics Engineer.  I was in the Navy from 61-65 as a 
CT M brancher.

I am associated with the local chapter of the Marine Corps League as I play 
TAPS for the military honors at graveside services for veterans.

Sempre Fi!

Dave, K4TO

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 5:57 PM Don Schroder 
mailto:donandde...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Greetings!

I am new to ham radio. I studied and passed the “extra” class. I am now 
building my first radio, a K2. This is my first post to the reflector, too.

I am on page 38 of my build (serial 7818) and just completed the resistance 
checks. Two of the test points have a lower resistance value than suggested.

U1 pin 4 measured 15.06K, should be > 20K
U1 pin 28 measured 5.06K, should be > 20K

I’m heading for the schematics to debug. Any suggestions on where to look would 
be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!

Don, KE0PVQ
(a 75 year old career Marine, retired & disabled)

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 kit build problem

[Don Schroder]

Ok, I’m confused. But I have an excuse (I’m old). I remeasured and both pins 
were > 20K! Problem solved it’s self.

I should have known that touching the probe tips would change the resistance, 
because I have a lot of resistance especially
When the wife “tells me” tp do something! I also played taps at gravesites for 
three years while in high school.

Thank you all for your kind words. I’m excited. A great radio (K2), a great 
reflector, and great friends a-coming!

So, no problem so far (Yea ).

Don, KE0PVQ

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From: Dave Sublette
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 5:18 PM
To: donandde...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 kit build problem

Hello Don,

Welcome to ham radio and to the Elecraft Family.  I am not an official or 
employee of Elecraft.  Watch for an answer from Don, W3FPR.  He is an official 
Elecraft repair guy and he knows what he is doing.

I don't want to insult your intelligence or experience, but I have to ask that 
you make sure you are not touching the metal parts of the probe tips when you 
make these measurements. Your body resistance will lower the readings, 
especially if they are supposed to be more than 20K.  Also, look for solder 
bridges or splashes that aren't supposed to be there.

This is a great reflector and someone will have the answer.  I built a K2 in 
2004 and it is a great rig.

I am 76 and an retired Electronics Engineer.  I was in the Navy from 61-65 as a 
CT M brancher.

I am associated with the local chapter of the Marine Corps League as I play 
TAPS for the military honors at graveside services for veterans.

Sempre Fi!

Dave, K4TO

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 5:57 PM Don Schroder 
mailto:donandde...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Greetings!

I am new to ham radio. I studied and passed the “extra” class. I am now 
building my first radio, a K2. This is my first post to the reflector, too.

I am on page 38 of my build (serial 7818) and just completed the resistance 
checks. Two of the test points have a lower resistance value than suggested.

U1 pin 4 measured 15.06K, should be > 20K
U1 pin 28 measured 5.06K, should be > 20K

I’m heading for the schematics to debug. Any suggestions on where to look would 
be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!

Don, KE0PVQ
(a 75 year old career Marine, retired & disabled)

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 USB cable

[Nr4c]

He already knows this. He asked if it was USB 1.0 or 2.0 compliant. 

I am sure it’s USB 2.0 compliant. I don’t know why anyone would sell a USB 1.0 
or 1.1 cable today. They are backwards compatible I think. 

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> On Jun 25, 2018, at 2:26 PM, Paul Ferguson  wrote:
> 
> Art,
> 
> The USB cable needs a Type-A connector on one end and a Type-B 
> connector on the other end.
> 
> 73,
> Paul
> K5ESW
> 
>> Is the USB A to B cable needed for the connection to the Utility a
>> standard USB or USB 2? I need to order a longer one to accommodate
>> where the amp will be placed relative to the computer.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Art KZ5D
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[Elecraft] K2 kit build problem

[Don Schroder]

Greetings!

I am new to ham radio. I studied and passed the “extra” class. I am now 
building my first radio, a K2. This is my first post to the reflector, too.

I am on page 38 of my build (serial 7818) and just completed the resistance 
checks. Two of the test points have a lower resistance value than suggested.

U1 pin 4 measured 15.06K, should be > 20K
U1 pin 28 measured 5.06K, should be > 20K

I’m heading for the schematics to debug. Any suggestions on where to look would 
be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!

Don, KE0PVQ
(a 75 year old career Marine, retired & disabled)

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[Elecraft] KX3, Monitor volume, and SP3 Speaker

[Phil Hystad]

I discovered a problem I had never had before.  Because I recently had minor 
skin surgery on my head, I was not using my headphones as usual for CW on my 
KX3.  Instead I hooked my SP3 speaker into the headphone jack on the KX3.  
Volume was fine for the actual signal but the monitor sound level was not very 
loud.  Due to the fact that the band was noisy this morning (20 meters, 14.014 
MHz to be more precise) I had significant trouble hearing my own CW via 
monitor.  With monitor volume level turned all the way up, 40 I think, it was 
distorted enough to be causing ill to my sensitive ears.

Is this expected behavior?  No preamp on that SP3 connection, direct headphones 
jack to SP3.  With headphones alone and even with the internal KX3 speaker, 
monitor level is just fine, no problems.  

Thanks for help or comments.

73, phil, K7PEH

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[Elecraft] K3S internal USB sound card seen as microphone since new Win10 release ?

[VE2TZT]

Hi,

It looks like since a recent windows 10 release that my Elecraft K3S USB
Audio Codec input is seen as a "microphone" not as a "line in".

The result is that it is not any longer stereo but mono.

The default USB audio driver seems to be missing to give win 10 the necessary 
info to force a line-in installation and win 10 installs it as a microphone.

Any fix ?

73

Gilles VA2EW

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S HI SIGNAL

[Jim Brown]

On 6/25/2018 11:29 AM, donov...@starpower.net wrote:

No, they are all pointed in exactly the same direction.


Right. The concept is to make them "colinear," so each antenna is in the 
other's null (off the end). We have done exactly that for our CQP county 
expeditions, where we run K3/KPA500 stations on the same band. Running 7 
dB more power requires at least double the separation.


Another important component is an effective ferrite choke at each 
antenna's feedpoint -- that can improve isolation by preventing feedline 
radiation/reception from filling in the nulls.


Careful planning of antenna setup is key to a successful 
multi-transmitter setup. Since we're on the left coast, we do the same 
thing you do - Yagis pointed to W2/W3, dipoles broadside in the same 
direction. Operating from the middle of the country, dipoles are a 
better choice than Yagis, especially for CW, again oriented broadside E/W.


We do QRP FD, CW only, and it's obvious that some stations have paid a 
lot more attention to RX noise than others. Our club's call is W6BX, and 
we worked W3AO on at least three bands. Don't know if we made it on 80 
-- haven't looked at the log.


73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day Report

[Dan Presley]

I was part of the W7LT Portland (OR) Amateur Rdaio Club effort again this year, 
and had a blast. We were 4A all qrp at 5 W on a local park that’s on an old 
volcano (Kelley Butte) with elevation and tons of trees. I used my KX3 for 
40,20 and 15 CW coupled to a rhombic/loop antenna copied from the June 2017 
article by WU0I. You can switch the configuration between a rhombic or a full 
loop at the end opposite the feed point (450 ohm line). In the article it’s 
done manually but one of the club guys devised a 24V latching relay we could 
engage /disengage by sending a pulse through the feed line (disconnected!). I 
ended up using it mostly in the rhombic configuration as it loaded better and 
was quieter, and seemed to perform slightly better on 40, my primary band. 
Still I wasn’t too impressed by its’ performance on 40, but I have to say that 
on 20 and 15 it was outstanding! Almost always one call and I had ‘em. 15 
opened very nicely for a big run for me Sunday morning around 9 AM (PDT) and I 
stayed there till the end-worked a ton. Of course the KX3 shone particularly 
with the filtering-I used the APF a lot and guys were blown away how clear it 
was. I also noticed a big difference from last year since I installed the 
roofing filter. I used an amplified speaker system so folks could hear as they 
came in-next year I need to find a small portable mixer so I can use phones but 
still allow others to hear. I had the panadaptor as well which was helpful, but 
I need to learn to use it more effectively in this crowded situation. the other 
thing that was really helpful was the little wooden stand to mount the radio 
and panadaptor from the ‘NOGA’ (North Georgia QRP club) that Marino KE7EMV 
loaned me. All in all I think I did about 2-250 Q’s with only a 3 hour nap, but 
next year I plan to have other operators I’m training on CW to spell 
me.And-there’s another cw station with old gear that I need to switch to 
another KX3 or K3!  My next adventure will be SOTA with the KX2 in Oregon and a 
couple of QRP Foxhounds where I’m the fox-planning to go to some SOTA sites for 
these runs in August. All fun!
Dan Presley  N7CQR
n7...@arrl.net


> On Jun 25, 2018, at 4:40 AM, Rod Hardman  wrote:
> 
> Oakville ARC VE3HB (Ontario, Canada) ran an all KX2 QRP Battery Field Day 
> this year from a a country back yard. Lots of rain but good times. 
> 
> Quite a positive education for all, esp the hardcore CW ops accustomed to 100 
> Watt contest stations. Ended up logging on iPads (Hamlog) syncing to a 
> Raspberry Pi Zero Server - which the Operators found easy in power but the 
> lack of automation proved tedious. (We should have implemented the Piglets) 
> That’s ok, we automated with people!
> 
> Everyone had very good things to say about the KX2. Fantastic experience and 
> the bands were kind to us. 
> 
> Best part was not having to listen to the generators (no end of Field day 
> headache!)
> 
> Rod, VA3ON
> 
> On Jun 24, 2018, at 23:40,  >  > wrote:
> 
> FD was a hoot from the farm here in southside Virginia.  The KX2, an Alpha 
> Delta dipole, and N1MM+ on a $99 Kodak laptop performed flawlessly.  The most 
> amazing thing was 10m!  Since I embarked on my QRP CW adventure 4 years ago I 
> had logged not a single 10m contact. This weekend I bagged 26 Qs on 10m, and 
> as many on 15m.  My total of 212 in 6 hours of operation certainly thrilled 
> me!  I really miss the FD social events of the late 1980's in Greensboro,  
> NC. But when you are trying to bust a pileup with 5-watts who has time for 
> socializing?
> Ken ke4rg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
> Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 6:30 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector 
> Cc: k...@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day Report
> 
> A large group gathered for the K6SRA 3A/SCV FD operation in San Jose. Despite 
> temperatures in the mid-90 s and blistering sunshine, we had many visitors, 
> including a lot of curious non-hams. 
> 
> This tends to be a social event with lots of conversation and ad-hoc 
> experimentation with radios and antennas, so I won t be bragging about our 
> claimed Field Day score. Still, a good time was had by all, with vast 
> quantities of water and other liquids consumed to avoid heat stroke.
> 
> Late Saturday afternoon I undertook a brief solo trek to exercise the KX2. I 
> had intended to climb a nearby hill. Given the outrageous temperatures, I 
> settled for a picnic table on the other side of the parking lot, beneath a 
> large oak. 
> 
> Normally I would have tossed a wire into this tree. Instead I used a 
> prototype 2-band, 4  whip, in keeping with the  two QSOs per foot challenge  
> we proposed in a recent Elecraft newsletter. I made 10 QSOs over the course 
> of about 20 minutes (that s 3.00 Q/ft, for those keeping score), ranging from 
> KH6 to the East Coast. 
> 
> Overall, conditions wer

Re: [Elecraft] K3S HI SIGNAL

[donovanf]

Hi John, 


I forgot to answer your question about the receiving antennas at my 
W3LPL multi-multi contest station. T hey're all verticals. 36 of 
them located one 1000 feet south east of my transmitting antennas. 
Three 8-circle vertical arrays for 160, 80 and 40 meters and Three 
4-square vertical arrays for 20, 15 and 10 meters. 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 

- Original Message -

From: donov...@starpower.net 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Cc: j...@kk9a.com 
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 6:29:03 PM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S HI SIGNAL 

Hi John, 


No, they are all pointed in exactly the same direction. 



To eliminate all interference between multiple K3 transceivers 
operating in the same band, all W3AO HF antennas are deployed in 
a 1000 foot long straight line running north-south with all of our 
3 element HF Yagis and 2 element 40 meter Yagis pointed west. 
All of our dipoles are broadside east-west. 


There's no trace of interference among any of the K3 transceivers 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 

- Original Message - 

From: j...@kk9a.com 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 5:34:37 PM 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S HI SIGNAL 

What does tip to tip mean - pointing 90 degrees apart? 

Don't you use verticals for your mult stations at W3LPL to minimize in 
band interference? How far are they from the Yagis? 

John KK9A 


Frank Donovanf W3LPL wrote: 

We routinely operate three or more K3 transceivers on the same band 
at W3AO, four on the band our GOTA station is operating. Not only 
is there no damage to the K3s and no HI SIG warnings, we don't hear 
any cross-station interference at all! 


The trick is to use horizontally polarized antennas installed tip-to-tip 
with at least 100 feet of spacing between each other. 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S HI SIGNAL

[Jim Miller]

Note that Frank's reply was to a FD (W3AO) setup question.

Frank's W3LPL station has a much different matrix of antennas.

73
jim ab3cv

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 2:31 PM  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
>
> No, they are all pointed in exactly the same direction.
>
>
>
> To eliminate all interference between multiple K3 transceivers
> operating in the same band, all W3AO HF antennas are deployed in
> a 10 00 foot long straight line running north-south with all of our
> 3 element HF Yagis and 2 element 40 meter Yagis pointed west.
> All of our dipoles are broadside east-west.
>
>
> There's no trace of interference among any of the K3 transceivers
>
>
> 73
> Frank
> W3LPL
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: j...@kk9a.com
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 5:34:37 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3S HI SIGNAL
>
> What does tip to tip mean - pointing 90 degrees apart?
>
> Don't you use verticals for your mult stations at W3LPL to minimize in
> band interference? How far are they from the Yagis?
>
> John KK9A
>
>
> Frank Donovanf W3LPL wrote:
>
> We routinely operate three or more K3 transceivers on the same band
> at W3AO, four on the band our GOTA station is operating. Not only
> is there no damage to the K3s and no HI SIG warnings, we don't hear
> any cross-station interference at all!
>
>
> The trick is to use horizontally polarized antennas installed tip-to-tip
> with at least 100 feet of spacing between each other.
>
>
> 73
> Frank
> W3LPL
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S HI SIGNAL

[donovanf]

Hi John, 


No, they are all pointed in exactly the same direction. 



To eliminate all interference between multiple K3 transceivers 
operating in the same band, all W3AO HF antennas are deployed in 
a 10 00 foot long straight line running north-south with all of our 
3 element HF Yagis and 2 element 40 meter Yagis pointed west. 
All of our dipoles are broadside east-west. 


There's no trace of interference among any of the K3 transceivers 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 

- Original Message -

From: j...@kk9a.com 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 5:34:37 PM 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S HI SIGNAL 

What does tip to tip mean - pointing 90 degrees apart? 

Don't you use verticals for your mult stations at W3LPL to minimize in 
band interference? How far are they from the Yagis? 

John KK9A 


Frank Donovanf W3LPL wrote: 

We routinely operate three or more K3 transceivers on the same band 
at W3AO, four on the band our GOTA station is operating. Not only 
is there no damage to the K3s and no HI SIG warnings, we don't hear 
any cross-station interference at all! 


The trick is to use horizontally polarized antennas installed tip-to-tip 
with at least 100 feet of spacing between each other. 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 USB cable

[Paul Ferguson]

Art,

The USB cable needs a Type-A connector on one end and a Type-B 
connector on the other end.

73,
Paul
K5ESW

> Is the USB A to B cable needed for the connection to the Utility a
> standard USB or USB 2? I need to order a longer one to accommodate
> where the amp will be placed relative to the computer.
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] K3S HI SIGNAL

[j...@kk9a.com]

What does tip to tip mean - pointing 90 degrees apart?

Don't you use verticals for your mult stations at W3LPL to minimize in
band interference?  How far are they from the Yagis?

John KK9A


Frank Donovanf W3LPL wrote:

We routinely operate three or more K3 transceivers on the same band
at W3AO, four on the band our GOTA station is operating. Not only
is there no damage to the K3s and no HI SIG warnings, we don't hear
any cross-station interference at all!


The trick is to use horizontally polarized antennas installed tip-to-tip
with at least 100 feet of spacing between each other.


73
Frank
W3LPL

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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day Report

[Howard Hoyt]

Hi all,

Our OCRA (Orange County Radio Amateurs) club ran 9A once again as W4EZ 
this year, trying for a repeat or improvement on our 3rd place national 
effort of last year.  Here was our layout (well, almost):


https://groups.io/g/OCRA-DFMA/photo/39174/1?p=Name,,,20,1,0,0

Installing that many antennas in the requisite 1000 ft circle with 
minimal mutual interference is a real feat, let me tell you! We even had 
a sagging 80M OCF dipole tangle with a beam at one point...


This year we finally achieved our long-term goal of all Elecraft 
transmitters.  Our testing over the last few years agrees with the 
collated test results by K9YC here:


http://audiosystemsgroup.com/TXNoise.pdf

Although a few years old, his results agree with our tests that the K3 
has the lowest in-band phase noise of any we have tested. This has been 
a real problem in past years, with almost all Yaecomwood transmitters we 
tried txing intolerable levels of phase noise like this Kenwood (20M, 
200 KHz spacing) running SSB from last year as recorded in the CW shack:


https://proaudioeng.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Kenwood-tx-phase-noise.mp4 



This year we had 7 Elecraft K3s and two KX3s.  The only phase noise 
issues we had were from the one KX3 running FT8 digi, and mostly ~S3-5 
when a beam was pointed towards the digi antenna from ~300 feet away 
with a 30 KHz spacing.  Other than that we were really pleased to have 
finally been almost free from the band-shattering noise experienced in 
previous years.  Kudos to Elecraft for such great Tx performance!


Overall the band condx were OK although not great from central NC, 
although a surprising appearance of 6 and 10 meter propagation helped!  
It is always a challenge contesting QRP and it is difficult to break 
pile-ups, so running as opposed to S&P is often the best bet.  Of course 
running is not a panacea when QRP, I must have been stomped on a dozen 
times by others who (to give them the benefit of the doubt) didn't hear 
me CQing on channel.


We once again attempted to wireless network N1MM over all 9 stations, 
but it became erratic so logging was done in several networked pods 
instead.  We won't know the total score until the logs are collated.


I would say the biggest challenge we faced is one I heard from other 
groups: it is getting to the point where a lot of heavy lifting (we had 
6 towers) is difficult with a bunch of old fogies.  If large FD efforts 
like W4EZ are to continue youth outreach is not an option.  
Nevertheless, at least this year no one was hurt, except for many a 
branch from lines shot over trees, and many a burger and other 
refreshments were enjoyed as well!


Cheers & 73,

Howie - WA4PSC

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Re: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

[Jim Sheldon]

Thanks to Rich, VE3KI, I got the Windows 10 privacy settings fixed to 
where WSJT-X and MMTTY can now access the K3S internal sound card.  
Turns out Microsoft forced a huge upgrade on all their users but never 
adequately explained that they shut off access to some things for 
"privacy" reasons.


Sure caused me a lot of grief anyway - LOL.

Had all the K3S settings correct in the first place, just Microsoft 
locking things out.  Anyone else having such problems needs to first 
check the Privacy setting in Windows just in case the same thing 
happened to them.


Thanks again to all who tried to help.

Jim Sheldon - W0EB

PS had a quick FT-8 QSO with DG1ABE right after I got it working.

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[Elecraft] KPA-1500 USB cable

[Art via Elecraft]

Is the USB A to B cable needed for the connection to the Utility a standard USB 
or USB 2? I need to order a longer one to accommodate where the amp will be 
placed relative to the computer.


Thanks.


Art KZ5D
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[Elecraft] FD 2018 K3 - MK-II

[Jim AC0E]

Used a K3/100 and microham MK-II this past weekend at our FD site. Sunday 
morning
the MK-II got some RFI into it and hung-up for about a minute until I reset 
the logging
software and cycled the MK-II. The setup worked without flaw for the entire 
weekend

otherwise.
Did anyone else eat way too much food this weekend as part of Field Day?
73 - Jim AC0E

James Douglass, AC0E
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Re: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

[Brian Hunt]

A recent update to Win10 - v1803 - changed the permissions and security 
surrounding "devices" including the microphone. You have to change setting to 
allow the "microphone" to access apps since Windows thinks all sound cards are 
microphones. This little "upgrade" drove me nuts for days before someone posted 
the solution here. 

This may well be your problem. GL!
73,
Brian, K0DTJ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S HI SIGNAL

[donovanf]

We routinely operate three or more K3 transceivers on the same band 
at W3AO, four on the band our GOTA station is operating. Not only 
is there no damage to the K3s and no HI SIG warnings, we don't hear 
any cross-station interference at all! 


The trick is to use horizontally polarized antennas installed tip-to-tip 
with at least 100 feet of spacing between each other. 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 


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From: "aj4tf"  
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 10:06:16 AM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S HI SIGNAL 

Thanks for the inputs on and off list. It appears that during FD we may have 
had two rigs on the same band inadvertently. I'll be talking with support 
this week. By the way, I got a personal message from Wayne on this topic. 
Do you think that would happen with Yacomwood? 

David AJ4TF 
Elecraft fan for life 




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Re: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

[Jim Sheldon]

BINGO!  Thank you very much Rich  I knew it had worked before 
Microshaft had forced the recent "improvement" on me.  Microphone was 
ON, but APP access to it was NOT.  Very subtle change and that's why I 
hadn't figured it out.


All works well now

Jim - W0EB

-- Original Message --
From: "Richard Ferch" 
To: "Jim Sheldon" 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: 6/25/2018 10:39:18 AM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

You mean that in WSJT-X's Settings window under the Audio tab, it won't 
let you select the K3S's USB Audio Codec for input or output? That's 
not how I read your message, but if that is the case, then you may have 
fallen victim to a recent Windows 10 "improvement".


In the Windows 10 Settings window, choose Privacy. Then on the left 
side, choose Microphone. A setting called "Let apps use my microphone" 
should appear. Turn this to On. If this is the problem, turning this 
option to On should permit WSJT-X to get access to the sound card 
again.


73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Jim Sheldon  wrote:
Nope, it's in DATA A.  WSJT-X's CAT control works fine with the K3S, 
setting frequency and DATA mode to DATA A (I forgot to mention that, 
sorry).  The problem has NO relation to the filter controls or any of 
the other stuff.


Thanks Rich, but I already have WSJT-X set up the way you suggest 
except I never touch the equalizations.  I've found in the past that 
it only distorts the signal.


The problem as I have stated twice now is WSJT-X can't open the audio 
device.  Windows 10's device manager reports it is working properly.  
CAT via the same USB connection works properly, reads the K3S 
frequency, sets the mode to DATA A as it should, test CAT and test PTT 
work as they should.  Just no audio input from the K3S.  I have NOT 
tried TX audio to the K3S and won't until I get the audio input 
working in receive first.


Thanks,

Jim - W0EB

-- Original Message --
From: "Richard Ferch" 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: 6/25/2018 10:16:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

It sounds as though you are putting the rig into USB mode. I believe 
you
would be better off putting the rig into DATA A. Set the rig's mode 
to DATA
and the data submode to DATA A. With the rig in DATA A, adjust the 
K3's
filter controls to put the Lo-Cut at around 0.20 and the Hi-Cut 
around 2.8.
With the rig in DATA A mode, set MIC SEL to LIN (this will not affect 
your
microphone setting for voice modes). MIC+LIN will be N/A. Adjust the 
MIC

gain control to somewhere above zero, e.g. LIN 5 or so.

In the WSJT-X Settings window under the Radio tab, if you are not 
using
some other radio control software such as the DXLab Suite Commander, 
then
set the CAT control port to the COM port number that Windows has 
assigned
to the K3S's USB serial port. Set the Mode in WSJT-X to either None 
or
Data/Pkt - not to USB. For PTT, I prefer to set WSJT-X's PTT method 
to VOX

and turn VOX on in the K3, or you can use PTT via CAT. Under Split
Operation, choose either Split or Fake It.

In the WSJT-X Settings window under the Sound tab, select the K3S's 
USB

Audio Codec as the soundcard device for both input and output.

Right-click on the Windows speaker icon in the Windows system tray 
and
select Playback devices, then select the USB Audio Codec (in the K3S) 
and
click on the Properties button. Select the Level tab and adjust the 
level

slider so it is in the middle of the range.

While receiving in WSJT-X with WSJT-X's Monitor function on, adjust 
the
K3S's LIN OUT level so that band noise alone is enough to bring the 
level
indicator on the left side of the WSJT-X window to about 30 dB or so. 
When
receiving actual signals, the level thermometer should not turn red; 
if it
does, reduce the K3S's LIN OUT level. In the Wide Graph window, you 
may
need to adjust the waterfall and spectrum gain and zero controls to 
get a
good looking spectrum and waterfall. I don't check Flatten - if you 
do,

make sure that the Wide Graph window does not display any frequencies
outside the K3S's filter bandpass.

Now transmitting into a dummy load or a dead band at low power or in 
TX
Test mode, put WSJT-X into transmit and adjust the Windows level 
slider
and/or the K3's MIC gain control to get 4-5 bars on the K3's ALC 
meter.
Once this is adjusted correctly, you should no longer need to adjust 
either
of these controls. Use the K3's PWR control to adjust the output 
power. Do
not try to control the output power by changing the audio level. 
Leave the
Pwr slider on the right side of the WSJT-X window at the top of its 
range

and don't change it.

73,
Rich VE3KI


W0EB wrote:

For some reason I can't get WSJT-X to pull the input sound or send 
output
sound to the K3S through the USB port. I know I have some K3S 
parameter(s)
set wrong, but so far I haven't been able to figure out which ones or 
how

to change them.

I had this working

[Elecraft] FS: KAT-100-2 Unbuilt Kit + EC-2 Enclosure

[Jim KO5V]

I have decided to keep my K2-100 stock, so I'm selling this kit. The 
combination is no longer available since Elecraft has stopped selling the EC-2 
enclosure. This "-2" tuner kit comes with replacement front and rear panels to 
fit the EC-2. It can be mounted in the enclosure by itself, or with the 
KPA-100W amplifier. The thinner KAT-100 enclosure is NOT included in this kit, 
so these two items need to be sold together.

I purchased both items in Feb. 2016 for $351.80 including shipping. The current 
KAT-100 price is $325.95. I am asking $300.00 including CONUS shipping, for 
both. Payment by PayPal.

Please email me off-list at: ("mycall" at arrl dot net). If you get a prompt 
from my SPAM filter, please just ignore it. I check that file regularly, and 
will then "approve" you.

Thanks for the band width.

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Re: [Elecraft] P3_SVGA Wireless KB Support?

[Jack Brindle]

Oops. Mine is a K780. 

Note that a keyboard using BLE/Bluetooth won’t work with the P3SVGA, even with 
a BLE dongle due to the lack of the Bluetooth stack on the P3SVGA card.
Thus you must use a keyboard with a Unifying or similar dongle to communicate 
with the keyboard.

73!
Jack, W6FB

> On Jun 25, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Jack Brindle  wrote:
> 
> Logitech keyboards work very well with the P3SVGA. The Logitech Unifying 
> receiver plugs into the P3SVGA’s USB port
> and just work.
> 
> Recent keyboards such as the K380 give you additional features - you can also 
> use the keyboard with up to two additional devices.
> This can be used to control both the P3 and the shack computer (and maybe a 
> second P3 for SO2R). These keyboards have a
> set of three buttons that allow you to select one of three devices they are 
> directly communicating with. In my test setup I have
> the device 1 button switch to the P3 (on my left) while the device 2 button 
> selects the computer. The keyboards can use both 
> Unifying and BLE for communications. For use with my older Mac (which does 
> Bluetooth but not BLE) I acquired a second
> Unifying receiver to allow it to use the keyboard. 
> 
> There are several styles of keyboards at various sizes which allow you to fit 
> the keyboard to your desk. Note that you will
> need one of the newer keyboards that have the Unifying receiver. The company 
> makes quite a few bluetooth-only keyboards
> (mostly for use with iPads and Android tablets). These will not work with the 
> P3SVGA.
> 
> If you have any questions, just give me a shout.
> 
> 73!
> Jack, W6FB
> ps (yes, in fact I am an engineer with Logitech these days).
> 
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2018, at 5:29 AM, N4OI - Ken  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I have a P3 and will be ordering the P3_SVGA.  I assume this will NOT
>> support a wireless USB keyboard, but just thought I would confirm before
>> buying one...  On the topic, any favorite keyboards I should consider - or
>> avoid?   Thanks for your input!
>> 
>> 73  
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

[Richard Ferch]

You mean that in WSJT-X's Settings window under the Audio tab, it won't let
you select the K3S's USB Audio Codec for input or output? That's not how I
read your message, but if that is the case, then you may have fallen victim
to a recent Windows 10 "improvement".

In the Windows 10 Settings window, choose Privacy. Then on the left side,
choose Microphone. A setting called "Let apps use my microphone" should
appear. Turn this to On. If this is the problem, turning this option to On
should permit WSJT-X to get access to the sound card again.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Jim Sheldon  wrote:

> Nope, it's in DATA A.  WSJT-X's CAT control works fine with the K3S,
> setting frequency and DATA mode to DATA A (I forgot to mention that,
> sorry).  The problem has NO relation to the filter controls or any of the
> other stuff.
>
> Thanks Rich, but I already have WSJT-X set up the way you suggest except I
> never touch the equalizations.  I've found in the past that it only
> distorts the signal.
>
> The problem as I have stated twice now is WSJT-X can't open the audio
> device.  Windows 10's device manager reports it is working properly.  CAT
> via the same USB connection works properly, reads the K3S frequency, sets
> the mode to DATA A as it should, test CAT and test PTT work as they
> should.  Just no audio input from the K3S.  I have NOT tried TX audio to
> the K3S and won't until I get the audio input working in receive first.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim - W0EB
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Richard Ferch" 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: 6/25/2018 10:16:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S
>
> It sounds as though you are putting the rig into USB mode. I believe you
>> would be better off putting the rig into DATA A. Set the rig's mode to
>> DATA
>> and the data submode to DATA A. With the rig in DATA A, adjust the K3's
>> filter controls to put the Lo-Cut at around 0.20 and the Hi-Cut around
>> 2.8.
>> With the rig in DATA A mode, set MIC SEL to LIN (this will not affect your
>> microphone setting for voice modes). MIC+LIN will be N/A. Adjust the MIC
>> gain control to somewhere above zero, e.g. LIN 5 or so.
>>
>> In the WSJT-X Settings window under the Radio tab, if you are not using
>> some other radio control software such as the DXLab Suite Commander, then
>> set the CAT control port to the COM port number that Windows has assigned
>> to the K3S's USB serial port. Set the Mode in WSJT-X to either None or
>> Data/Pkt - not to USB. For PTT, I prefer to set WSJT-X's PTT method to VOX
>> and turn VOX on in the K3, or you can use PTT via CAT. Under Split
>> Operation, choose either Split or Fake It.
>>
>> In the WSJT-X Settings window under the Sound tab, select the K3S's USB
>> Audio Codec as the soundcard device for both input and output.
>>
>> Right-click on the Windows speaker icon in the Windows system tray and
>> select Playback devices, then select the USB Audio Codec (in the K3S) and
>> click on the Properties button. Select the Level tab and adjust the level
>> slider so it is in the middle of the range.
>>
>> While receiving in WSJT-X with WSJT-X's Monitor function on, adjust the
>> K3S's LIN OUT level so that band noise alone is enough to bring the level
>> indicator on the left side of the WSJT-X window to about 30 dB or so. When
>> receiving actual signals, the level thermometer should not turn red; if it
>> does, reduce the K3S's LIN OUT level. In the Wide Graph window, you may
>> need to adjust the waterfall and spectrum gain and zero controls to get a
>> good looking spectrum and waterfall. I don't check Flatten - if you do,
>> make sure that the Wide Graph window does not display any frequencies
>> outside the K3S's filter bandpass.
>>
>> Now transmitting into a dummy load or a dead band at low power or in TX
>> Test mode, put WSJT-X into transmit and adjust the Windows level slider
>> and/or the K3's MIC gain control to get 4-5 bars on the K3's ALC meter.
>> Once this is adjusted correctly, you should no longer need to adjust
>> either
>> of these controls. Use the K3's PWR control to adjust the output power. Do
>> not try to control the output power by changing the audio level. Leave the
>> Pwr slider on the right side of the WSJT-X window at the top of its range
>> and don't change it.
>>
>> 73,
>> Rich VE3KI
>>
>>
>> W0EB wrote:
>>
>> For some reason I can't get WSJT-X to pull the input sound or send output
>> sound to the K3S through the USB port. I know I have some K3S parameter(s)
>> set wrong, but so far I haven't been able to figure out which ones or how
>> to change them.
>>
>> I had this working before so not sure what I did to change it.
>>
>> Feel like a total dummy, but at 76, I do forget some things - LOL
>>
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Jim Sheldon, W0EB
>>
>> Windows 10 PRO 64bit -I have the USB CODEC in the K3S configured as sound
>> in and out in device manager and nothing plugged in to t

Re: [Elecraft] P3_SVGA Wireless KB Support?

[Bill]

On the rare occasions that I program more macros, I use an old wired 
keyboard and a 10" external monitor.


Dave, did you say they have a 64 key version out now?

I also have a Pigknob I am thinking of attaching to the side of the 
keypad. That would accommodate all my tuning and VFO needs without 
adding to the footprint.


My dream would be a KPod with 48 buttons on it (or 24 dual function 
buttons) would reduce much desktop clutter. In the interim, the 
Genovation rules!


Bill W2BLC K-Line

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Re: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

[Jim Sheldon]

Hi Don,
the answers to your questions were already answered but Yes, the CODEC 
is configured for both input and output, nothing is plugged into the 
back of the K3s and mic is set to LINE


I stated that in my previous posts.

I have tested the transmit audio with the K3S in TEST mode and I'm 
getting TX audio from WSJT-X just fine -- it's the input from the K3S to 
the computer that appears to be broken and I don't know how to check to 
see if it's in the KIO3B or the computer.


Jim

-- Original Message --
From: "Don Wilhelm" 
To: "Jim Sheldon" ; "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 


Sent: 6/25/2018 10:23:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S


Jim,

Do you have WSJT-X configured to use the USB CODEC for both input and
output?
Do you have anything plugged into the LINE IN jack on the back of the
K3S?  Anything plugged in there will take priority over the internal
soundcard.

Is the MIC SEL menu set to LINE?

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/25/2018 10:33 AM, Jim Sheldon wrote:

For some reason I can't get WSJT-X to pull the input sound or send
output sound to the K3S through the USB port.  I know I have some K3S
parameter(s) set wrong, but so far I haven't been able to figure out
which ones or how to change them.

I had this working before so not sure what I did to change it.

Feel like a total dummy, but at 76, I do forget some things - LOL

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jim Sheldon, W0EB

Windows 10 PRO 64bit -I have the USB CODEC in the K3S configured as
sound in and out in device manager and nothing plugged in to the rear 
of

the K3S other than external speakers in the speaker jack - nothing to
MIC or LINE In or LINE Out.

Menu Settings:
MIC SEL is FP.L
MIC + LIN ON

CONFIG Settings:
KIO3B nor
LIN OUT nor 010
MIC BTN OFF
L --MIX -- R  A  B
RS232  USB
SPKRS  2
SPKR+PH  YES



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Re: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

[Jim Sheldon]

Nope, it's in DATA A.  WSJT-X's CAT control works fine with the K3S, 
setting frequency and DATA mode to DATA A (I forgot to mention that, 
sorry).  The problem has NO relation to the filter controls or any of 
the other stuff.


Thanks Rich, but I already have WSJT-X set up the way you suggest except 
I never touch the equalizations.  I've found in the past that it only 
distorts the signal.


The problem as I have stated twice now is WSJT-X can't open the audio 
device.  Windows 10's device manager reports it is working properly.  
CAT via the same USB connection works properly, reads the K3S frequency, 
sets the mode to DATA A as it should, test CAT and test PTT work as they 
should.  Just no audio input from the K3S.  I have NOT tried TX audio to 
the K3S and won't until I get the audio input working in receive first.


Thanks,

Jim - W0EB

-- Original Message --
From: "Richard Ferch" 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: 6/25/2018 10:16:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

It sounds as though you are putting the rig into USB mode. I believe 
you
would be better off putting the rig into DATA A. Set the rig's mode to 
DATA

and the data submode to DATA A. With the rig in DATA A, adjust the K3's
filter controls to put the Lo-Cut at around 0.20 and the Hi-Cut around 
2.8.
With the rig in DATA A mode, set MIC SEL to LIN (this will not affect 
your
microphone setting for voice modes). MIC+LIN will be N/A. Adjust the 
MIC

gain control to somewhere above zero, e.g. LIN 5 or so.

In the WSJT-X Settings window under the Radio tab, if you are not using
some other radio control software such as the DXLab Suite Commander, 
then
set the CAT control port to the COM port number that Windows has 
assigned

to the K3S's USB serial port. Set the Mode in WSJT-X to either None or
Data/Pkt - not to USB. For PTT, I prefer to set WSJT-X's PTT method to 
VOX

and turn VOX on in the K3, or you can use PTT via CAT. Under Split
Operation, choose either Split or Fake It.

In the WSJT-X Settings window under the Sound tab, select the K3S's USB
Audio Codec as the soundcard device for both input and output.

Right-click on the Windows speaker icon in the Windows system tray and
select Playback devices, then select the USB Audio Codec (in the K3S) 
and
click on the Properties button. Select the Level tab and adjust the 
level

slider so it is in the middle of the range.

While receiving in WSJT-X with WSJT-X's Monitor function on, adjust the
K3S's LIN OUT level so that band noise alone is enough to bring the 
level
indicator on the left side of the WSJT-X window to about 30 dB or so. 
When
receiving actual signals, the level thermometer should not turn red; if 
it

does, reduce the K3S's LIN OUT level. In the Wide Graph window, you may
need to adjust the waterfall and spectrum gain and zero controls to get 
a

good looking spectrum and waterfall. I don't check Flatten - if you do,
make sure that the Wide Graph window does not display any frequencies
outside the K3S's filter bandpass.

Now transmitting into a dummy load or a dead band at low power or in TX
Test mode, put WSJT-X into transmit and adjust the Windows level slider
and/or the K3's MIC gain control to get 4-5 bars on the K3's ALC meter.
Once this is adjusted correctly, you should no longer need to adjust 
either
of these controls. Use the K3's PWR control to adjust the output power. 
Do
not try to control the output power by changing the audio level. Leave 
the
Pwr slider on the right side of the WSJT-X window at the top of its 
range

and don't change it.

73,
Rich VE3KI


W0EB wrote:

For some reason I can't get WSJT-X to pull the input sound or send 
output
sound to the K3S through the USB port. I know I have some K3S 
parameter(s)
set wrong, but so far I haven't been able to figure out which ones or 
how

to change them.

I had this working before so not sure what I did to change it.

Feel like a total dummy, but at 76, I do forget some things - LOL

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jim Sheldon, W0EB

Windows 10 PRO 64bit -I have the USB CODEC in the K3S configured as 
sound
in and out in device manager and nothing plugged in to the rear of the 
K3S
other than external speakers in the speaker jack - nothing to MIC or 
LINE

In or LINE Out.

Menu Settings:
MIC SEL is FP.L
MIC + LIN ON

CONFIG Settings:
KIO3B nor
LIN OUT nor 010
MIC BTN OFF
L --MIX -- R  A  B
RS232  USB
SPKRS  2
SPKR+PH  YES
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Re: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

[Jim Sheldon]

Subject: Re[2]: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

Nope, it's in DATA A.  WSJT-X's CAT control works fine with the K3S, 
setting frequency and DATA mode to DATA A (I forgot to mention that, 
sorry).  The problem has NO relation to the filter controls or any of 
the other stuff.


Thanks Rich, but I already have WSJT-X set up the way you suggest except 
I never touch the equalizations.  I've found in the past that it only 
distorts the signal.


The problem as I have stated twice now is WSJT-X can't open the audio 
device.  Windows 10's device manager reports it is working properly.  
CAT via the same USB connection works properly, reads the K3S frequency, 
sets the mode to DATA A as it should, test CAT and test PTT work as they 
should.  Just no audio input from the K3S.  I have NOT tried TX audio to 
the K3S and won't until I get the audio input working in receive first.


Thanks,

Jim - W0EB

-- Original Message --
From: "Richard Ferch" 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: 6/25/2018 10:16:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

It sounds as though you are putting the rig into USB mode. I believe 
you
would be better off putting the rig into DATA A. Set the rig's mode to 
DATA

and the data submode to DATA A. With the rig in DATA A, adjust the K3's
filter controls to put the Lo-Cut at around 0.20 and the Hi-Cut around 
2.8.
With the rig in DATA A mode, set MIC SEL to LIN (this will not affect 
your
microphone setting for voice modes). MIC+LIN will be N/A. Adjust the 
MIC

gain control to somewhere above zero, e.g. LIN 5 or so.

In the WSJT-X Settings window under the Radio tab, if you are not using
some other radio control software such as the DXLab Suite Commander, 
then
set the CAT control port to the COM port number that Windows has 
assigned

to the K3S's USB serial port. Set the Mode in WSJT-X to either None or
Data/Pkt - not to USB. For PTT, I prefer to set WSJT-X's PTT method to 
VOX

and turn VOX on in the K3, or you can use PTT via CAT. Under Split
Operation, choose either Split or Fake It.

In the WSJT-X Settings window under the Sound tab, select the K3S's USB
Audio Codec as the soundcard device for both input and output.

Right-click on the Windows speaker icon in the Windows system tray and
select Playback devices, then select the USB Audio Codec (in the K3S) 
and
click on the Properties button. Select the Level tab and adjust the 
level

slider so it is in the middle of the range.

While receiving in WSJT-X with WSJT-X's Monitor function on, adjust the
K3S's LIN OUT level so that band noise alone is enough to bring the 
level
indicator on the left side of the WSJT-X window to about 30 dB or so. 
When
receiving actual signals, the level thermometer should not turn red; if 
it

does, reduce the K3S's LIN OUT level. In the Wide Graph window, you may
need to adjust the waterfall and spectrum gain and zero controls to get 
a

good looking spectrum and waterfall. I don't check Flatten - if you do,
make sure that the Wide Graph window does not display any frequencies
outside the K3S's filter bandpass.

Now transmitting into a dummy load or a dead band at low power or in TX
Test mode, put WSJT-X into transmit and adjust the Windows level slider
and/or the K3's MIC gain control to get 4-5 bars on the K3's ALC meter.
Once this is adjusted correctly, you should no longer need to adjust 
either
of these controls. Use the K3's PWR control to adjust the output power. 
Do
not try to control the output power by changing the audio level. Leave 
the
Pwr slider on the right side of the WSJT-X window at the top of its 
range

and don't change it.

73,
Rich VE3KI


W0EB wrote:

For some reason I can't get WSJT-X to pull the input sound or send 
output
sound to the K3S through the USB port. I know I have some K3S 
parameter(s)
set wrong, but so far I haven't been able to figure out which ones or 
how

to change them.

I had this working before so not sure what I did to change it.

Feel like a total dummy, but at 76, I do forget some things - LOL

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jim Sheldon, W0EB

Windows 10 PRO 64bit -I have the USB CODEC in the K3S configured as 
sound
in and out in device manager and nothing plugged in to the rear of the 
K3S
other than external speakers in the speaker jack - nothing to MIC or 
LINE

In or LINE Out.

Menu Settings:
MIC SEL is FP.L
MIC + LIN ON

CONFIG Settings:
KIO3B nor
LIN OUT nor 010
MIC BTN OFF
L --MIX -- R  A  B
RS232  USB
SPKRS  2
SPKR+PH  YES
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Re: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

[Don Wilhelm]

Jim,

Do you have WSJT-X configured to use the USB CODEC for both input and 
output?
Do you have anything plugged into the LINE IN jack on the back of the 
K3S?  Anything plugged in there will take priority over the internal 
soundcard.


Is the MIC SEL menu set to LINE?

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/25/2018 10:33 AM, Jim Sheldon wrote:
For some reason I can't get WSJT-X to pull the input sound or send 
output sound to the K3S through the USB port.  I know I have some K3S 
parameter(s) set wrong, but so far I haven't been able to figure out 
which ones or how to change them.


I had this working before so not sure what I did to change it.

Feel like a total dummy, but at 76, I do forget some things - LOL

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jim Sheldon, W0EB

Windows 10 PRO 64bit -I have the USB CODEC in the K3S configured as 
sound in and out in device manager and nothing plugged in to the rear of 
the K3S other than external speakers in the speaker jack - nothing to 
MIC or LINE In or LINE Out.


Menu Settings:
MIC SEL is FP.L
MIC + LIN ON

CONFIG Settings:
KIO3B nor
LIN OUT nor 010
MIC BTN OFF
L --MIX -- R  A  B
RS232  USB
SPKRS  2
SPKR+PH  YES



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Re: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

[Richard Ferch]

It sounds as though you are putting the rig into USB mode. I believe you
would be better off putting the rig into DATA A. Set the rig's mode to DATA
and the data submode to DATA A. With the rig in DATA A, adjust the K3's
filter controls to put the Lo-Cut at around 0.20 and the Hi-Cut around 2.8.
With the rig in DATA A mode, set MIC SEL to LIN (this will not affect your
microphone setting for voice modes). MIC+LIN will be N/A. Adjust the MIC
gain control to somewhere above zero, e.g. LIN 5 or so.

In the WSJT-X Settings window under the Radio tab, if you are not using
some other radio control software such as the DXLab Suite Commander, then
set the CAT control port to the COM port number that Windows has assigned
to the K3S's USB serial port. Set the Mode in WSJT-X to either None or
Data/Pkt - not to USB. For PTT, I prefer to set WSJT-X's PTT method to VOX
and turn VOX on in the K3, or you can use PTT via CAT. Under Split
Operation, choose either Split or Fake It.

In the WSJT-X Settings window under the Sound tab, select the K3S's USB
Audio Codec as the soundcard device for both input and output.

Right-click on the Windows speaker icon in the Windows system tray and
select Playback devices, then select the USB Audio Codec (in the K3S) and
click on the Properties button. Select the Level tab and adjust the level
slider so it is in the middle of the range.

While receiving in WSJT-X with WSJT-X's Monitor function on, adjust the
K3S's LIN OUT level so that band noise alone is enough to bring the level
indicator on the left side of the WSJT-X window to about 30 dB or so. When
receiving actual signals, the level thermometer should not turn red; if it
does, reduce the K3S's LIN OUT level. In the Wide Graph window, you may
need to adjust the waterfall and spectrum gain and zero controls to get a
good looking spectrum and waterfall. I don't check Flatten - if you do,
make sure that the Wide Graph window does not display any frequencies
outside the K3S's filter bandpass.

Now transmitting into a dummy load or a dead band at low power or in TX
Test mode, put WSJT-X into transmit and adjust the Windows level slider
and/or the K3's MIC gain control to get 4-5 bars on the K3's ALC meter.
Once this is adjusted correctly, you should no longer need to adjust either
of these controls. Use the K3's PWR control to adjust the output power. Do
not try to control the output power by changing the audio level. Leave the
Pwr slider on the right side of the WSJT-X window at the top of its range
and don't change it.

73,
Rich VE3KI


W0EB wrote:

For some reason I can't get WSJT-X to pull the input sound or send output
sound to the K3S through the USB port. I know I have some K3S parameter(s)
set wrong, but so far I haven't been able to figure out which ones or how
to change them.

I had this working before so not sure what I did to change it.

Feel like a total dummy, but at 76, I do forget some things - LOL

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jim Sheldon, W0EB

Windows 10 PRO 64bit -I have the USB CODEC in the K3S configured as sound
in and out in device manager and nothing plugged in to the rear of the K3S
other than external speakers in the speaker jack - nothing to MIC or LINE
In or LINE Out.

Menu Settings:
MIC SEL is FP.L
MIC + LIN ON

CONFIG Settings:
KIO3B nor
LIN OUT nor 010
MIC BTN OFF
L --MIX -- R  A  B
RS232  USB
SPKRS  2
SPKR+PH  YES
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Re: [Elecraft] P3_SVGA Wireless KB Support?

[Jack Brindle]

Logitech keyboards work very well with the P3SVGA. The Logitech Unifying 
receiver plugs into the P3SVGA’s USB port
and just work.

Recent keyboards such as the K380 give you additional features - you can also 
use the keyboard with up to two additional devices.
This can be used to control both the P3 and the shack computer (and maybe a 
second P3 for SO2R). These keyboards have a
set of three buttons that allow you to select one of three devices they are 
directly communicating with. In my test setup I have
the device 1 button switch to the P3 (on my left) while the device 2 button 
selects the computer. The keyboards can use both 
Unifying and BLE for communications. For use with my older Mac (which does 
Bluetooth but not BLE) I acquired a second
Unifying receiver to allow it to use the keyboard. 

There are several styles of keyboards at various sizes which allow you to fit 
the keyboard to your desk. Note that you will
need one of the newer keyboards that have the Unifying receiver. The company 
makes quite a few bluetooth-only keyboards
(mostly for use with iPads and Android tablets). These will not work with the 
P3SVGA.

If you have any questions, just give me a shout.

73!
Jack, W6FB
ps (yes, in fact I am an engineer with Logitech these days).


> On Jun 25, 2018, at 5:29 AM, N4OI - Ken  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have a P3 and will be ordering the P3_SVGA.  I assume this will NOT
> support a wireless USB keyboard, but just thought I would confirm before
> buying one...  On the topic, any favorite keyboards I should consider - or
> avoid?   Thanks for your input!
> 
> 73  
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Re: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

Are you in DATA mode?  MIC SEL should be Line In. 
MIC (Line In ) level abt 30. 

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 25, 2018, at 9:33 AM, Jim Sheldon  wrote:
> 
> For some reason I can't get WSJT-X to pull the input sound or send output 
> sound to the K3S through the USB port.  I know I have some K3S parameter(s) 
> set wrong, but so far I haven't been able to figure out which ones or how to 
> change them.
> 
> I had this working before so not sure what I did to change it.
> 
> Feel like a total dummy, but at 76, I do forget some things - LOL
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Jim Sheldon, W0EB
> 
> Windows 10 PRO 64bit -I have the USB CODEC in the K3S configured as sound in 
> and out in device manager and nothing plugged in to the rear of the K3S other 
> than external speakers in the speaker jack - nothing to MIC or LINE In or 
> LINE Out.
> 
> Menu Settings:
> MIC SEL is FP.L
> MIC + LIN ON
> 
> CONFIG Settings:
> KIO3B nor
> LIN OUT nor 010
> MIC BTN OFF
> L --MIX -- R  A  B
> RS232  USB
> SPKRS  2
> SPKR+PH  YES
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3_SVGA Wireless KB Support?

[Dave Cole (NK7Z)]

See the link in my original post...  There are 20 or so macros I use 
every day on the K3/P3.


73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
https://www.nk7z.net

On 06/25/2018 07:59 AM, Buck wrote:
What Macros are people putting in the P3?  I only thought they were 
helpful if you were operating remotely.


Buck, k4ia
Honor Roll
8BDXCC
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On 6/25/2018 10:52 AM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote:
I have not found a way to pre-load macros either, but alas, it is the 
same, with or without the Genovation.  The Genovation just forces you 
to load a lot of macros at once, so it feels like it is related.  I 
think, no matter how you use the P3, with or without the Genovation, 
you always need to preload macros by hand.


Like yourself, (here comes a request for a new feature Elecraft 
folks), I would LOVE a way to pretest macros using the P3 utility, 
then select which memory that macro should live in, then blast the 
tested macro into the selected memory on the P3.


73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
https://www.nk7z.net

On 06/25/2018 07:45 AM, David Box wrote:
Still the biggest problem in using the Genovation or P3 macros in 
general is the clunky keyboard interface that requires hand typing in 
all the macros directly into the P3.  I may have missed something but 
have not seen any method where you can create macros, test them, then 
transfer to the P3.  Also have not seen anything that allows me to 
save the macros so I can restore when needed.


Above issues may be due to my on neglect of keeping up, so if someone 
has a way to solve would love to hear it.


Dave K5MWR



On 6/25/2018 8:48 AM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote:
As long as the keyboard appears to be a dumb keyboard it should 
work... I have a Genovation 64 Key programmable keypad working that 
fires macros into the SVGA, at the push of a single button.  See:


https://www.nk7z.net/adding-external-keypad-k3/

I fire all sorts of prebuilt macros into the P3, from reconfiguring 
the rig for various modes, to setting up complex split operations 
for DX, to sending my call in CW.


I program the Genovation once, (and never touch it again programming 
wise), then just add my macros to the P3 after that. Once a macro is 
added, that macro is available at a single button press from then on.


Works great in a pileup.  I press the "Split Plus" button on the 
Genovation and the P3 moves the tuned DX signal to the hard left 
side of the P3 display, sets the span of the P3 to 5 KHz., (showing 
me the 5 KHz. above the DX signal), turns on VFO B for control of my 
my transmit on the K3, narrows the K3 filter to 100 Hz., (centered 
on the DX signal), centers the IF passband on my DX signal, and then 
shows the transmit cursor on the P3.


This lets me find a hole in the pileup, use the VFO B knob on the K3 
to move my transmit to that hole in the pileup, and when I hit the 
ID button it fires off my ID as fast, and as often as I press the 
button for ID.  The entire operation takes about 2 seconds to set 
up, and start calling...


73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
https://www.nk7z.net

On 06/25/2018 05:29 AM, N4OI - Ken wrote:


I have a P3 and will be ordering the P3_SVGA.  I assume this will NOT
support a wireless USB keyboard, but just thought I would confirm 
before
buying one...  On the topic, any favorite keyboards I should 
consider - or

avoid?   Thanks for your input!

73



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[Elecraft] Feature Request for P3

[Dave Cole (NK7Z)]

Device:  P3

Requested new feature:
The ability to build and test a macro, assign it a memory number within 
the P3, and then upload this macro to the P3 directly out of the P3 
Utility software.


Reason for request:
The macro capability of the K3/P3 seems very underused.  In general it 
is an enormously powerful tool, but the process of loading macros into 
the P3 is at best, 1980ish, and and at worst reminds me of keying in 
ones and zeros into my old IMSA 8080 machine to program it way back in 
the day.  I suspect very few folks are using macros launched from the 
P3, because of this.


Something like the Frequency editor, (only for Macros), would be grand, 
but ANYTHING that allows for off-line macro creation and testing, then 
automating the upload precess would be vast improvement over the current 
1970ish process that exists today.


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Re: [Elecraft] P3_SVGA Wireless KB Support?

[Buck]

What Macros are people putting in the P3?  I only thought they were 
helpful if you were operating remotely.


Buck, k4ia
Honor Roll
8BDXCC
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On 6/25/2018 10:52 AM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote:
I have not found a way to pre-load macros either, but alas, it is the 
same, with or without the Genovation.  The Genovation just forces you to 
load a lot of macros at once, so it feels like it is related.  I think, 
no matter how you use the P3, with or without the Genovation, you always 
need to preload macros by hand.


Like yourself, (here comes a request for a new feature Elecraft folks), 
I would LOVE a way to pretest macros using the P3 utility, then select 
which memory that macro should live in, then blast the tested macro into 
the selected memory on the P3.


73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
https://www.nk7z.net

On 06/25/2018 07:45 AM, David Box wrote:
Still the biggest problem in using the Genovation or P3 macros in 
general is the clunky keyboard interface that requires hand typing in 
all the macros directly into the P3.  I may have missed something but 
have not seen any method where you can create macros, test them, then 
transfer to the P3.  Also have not seen anything that allows me to 
save the macros so I can restore when needed.


Above issues may be due to my on neglect of keeping up, so if someone 
has a way to solve would love to hear it.


Dave K5MWR



On 6/25/2018 8:48 AM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote:
As long as the keyboard appears to be a dumb keyboard it should 
work... I have a Genovation 64 Key programmable keypad working that 
fires macros into the SVGA, at the push of a single button.  See:


https://www.nk7z.net/adding-external-keypad-k3/

I fire all sorts of prebuilt macros into the P3, from reconfiguring 
the rig for various modes, to setting up complex split operations for 
DX, to sending my call in CW.


I program the Genovation once, (and never touch it again programming 
wise), then just add my macros to the P3 after that. Once a macro is 
added, that macro is available at a single button press from then on.


Works great in a pileup.  I press the "Split Plus" button on the 
Genovation and the P3 moves the tuned DX signal to the hard left side 
of the P3 display, sets the span of the P3 to 5 KHz., (showing me the 
5 KHz. above the DX signal), turns on VFO B for control of my my 
transmit on the K3, narrows the K3 filter to 100 Hz., (centered on 
the DX signal), centers the IF passband on my DX signal, and then 
shows the transmit cursor on the P3.


This lets me find a hole in the pileup, use the VFO B knob on the K3 
to move my transmit to that hole in the pileup, and when I hit the ID 
button it fires off my ID as fast, and as often as I press the button 
for ID.  The entire operation takes about 2 seconds to set up, and 
start calling...


73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
https://www.nk7z.net

On 06/25/2018 05:29 AM, N4OI - Ken wrote:


I have a P3 and will be ordering the P3_SVGA.  I assume this will NOT
support a wireless USB keyboard, but just thought I would confirm 
before
buying one...  On the topic, any favorite keyboards I should 
consider - or

avoid?   Thanks for your input!

73



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Re: [Elecraft] P3_SVGA Wireless KB Support?

[Dave Cole (NK7Z)]

I have not found a way to pre-load macros either, but alas, it is the 
same, with or without the Genovation.  The Genovation just forces you to 
load a lot of macros at once, so it feels like it is related.  I think, 
no matter how you use the P3, with or without the Genovation, you always 
need to preload macros by hand.


Like yourself, (here comes a request for a new feature Elecraft folks), 
I would LOVE a way to pretest macros using the P3 utility, then select 
which memory that macro should live in, then blast the tested macro into 
the selected memory on the P3.


73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
https://www.nk7z.net

On 06/25/2018 07:45 AM, David Box wrote:
Still the biggest problem in using the Genovation or P3 macros in 
general is the clunky keyboard interface that requires hand typing in 
all the macros directly into the P3.  I may have missed something but 
have not seen any method where you can create macros, test them, then 
transfer to the P3.  Also have not seen anything that allows me to save 
the macros so I can restore when needed.


Above issues may be due to my on neglect of keeping up, so if someone 
has a way to solve would love to hear it.


Dave K5MWR



On 6/25/2018 8:48 AM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote:
As long as the keyboard appears to be a dumb keyboard it should 
work... I have a Genovation 64 Key programmable keypad working that 
fires macros into the SVGA, at the push of a single button.  See:


https://www.nk7z.net/adding-external-keypad-k3/

I fire all sorts of prebuilt macros into the P3, from reconfiguring 
the rig for various modes, to setting up complex split operations for 
DX, to sending my call in CW.


I program the Genovation once, (and never touch it again programming 
wise), then just add my macros to the P3 after that. Once a macro is 
added, that macro is available at a single button press from then on.


Works great in a pileup.  I press the "Split Plus" button on the 
Genovation and the P3 moves the tuned DX signal to the hard left side 
of the P3 display, sets the span of the P3 to 5 KHz., (showing me the 
5 KHz. above the DX signal), turns on VFO B for control of my my 
transmit on the K3, narrows the K3 filter to 100 Hz., (centered on the 
DX signal), centers the IF passband on my DX signal, and then shows 
the transmit cursor on the P3.


This lets me find a hole in the pileup, use the VFO B knob on the K3 
to move my transmit to that hole in the pileup, and when I hit the ID 
button it fires off my ID as fast, and as often as I press the button 
for ID.  The entire operation takes about 2 seconds to set up, and 
start calling...


73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
https://www.nk7z.net

On 06/25/2018 05:29 AM, N4OI - Ken wrote:


I have a P3 and will be ordering the P3_SVGA.  I assume this will NOT
support a wireless USB keyboard, but just thought I would confirm before
buying one...  On the topic, any favorite keyboards I should consider 
- or

avoid?   Thanks for your input!

73



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Re: [Elecraft] P3_SVGA Wireless KB Support?

[David Box]

Still the biggest problem in using the Genovation or P3 macros in 
general is the clunky keyboard interface that requires hand typing in 
all the macros directly into the P3.  I may have missed something but 
have not seen any method where you can create macros, test them, then 
transfer to the P3.  Also have not seen anything that allows me to save 
the macros so I can restore when needed.


Above issues may be due to my on neglect of keeping up, so if someone 
has a way to solve would love to hear it.


Dave K5MWR



On 6/25/2018 8:48 AM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote:
As long as the keyboard appears to be a dumb keyboard it should 
work... I have a Genovation 64 Key programmable keypad working that 
fires macros into the SVGA, at the push of a single button.  See:


https://www.nk7z.net/adding-external-keypad-k3/

I fire all sorts of prebuilt macros into the P3, from reconfiguring 
the rig for various modes, to setting up complex split operations for 
DX, to sending my call in CW.


I program the Genovation once, (and never touch it again programming 
wise), then just add my macros to the P3 after that. Once a macro is 
added, that macro is available at a single button press from then on.


Works great in a pileup.  I press the "Split Plus" button on the 
Genovation and the P3 moves the tuned DX signal to the hard left side 
of the P3 display, sets the span of the P3 to 5 KHz., (showing me the 
5 KHz. above the DX signal), turns on VFO B for control of my my 
transmit on the K3, narrows the K3 filter to 100 Hz., (centered on the 
DX signal), centers the IF passband on my DX signal, and then shows 
the transmit cursor on the P3.


This lets me find a hole in the pileup, use the VFO B knob on the K3 
to move my transmit to that hole in the pileup, and when I hit the ID 
button it fires off my ID as fast, and as often as I press the button 
for ID.  The entire operation takes about 2 seconds to set up, and 
start calling...


73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
https://www.nk7z.net

On 06/25/2018 05:29 AM, N4OI - Ken wrote:


I have a P3 and will be ordering the P3_SVGA.  I assume this will NOT
support a wireless USB keyboard, but just thought I would confirm before
buying one...  On the topic, any favorite keyboards I should consider 
- or

avoid?   Thanks for your input!

73



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[Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

[Jim Sheldon]

For some reason I can't get WSJT-X to pull the input sound or send 
output sound to the K3S through the USB port.  I know I have some K3S 
parameter(s) set wrong, but so far I haven't been able to figure out 
which ones or how to change them.


I had this working before so not sure what I did to change it.

Feel like a total dummy, but at 76, I do forget some things - LOL

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jim Sheldon, W0EB

Windows 10 PRO 64bit -I have the USB CODEC in the K3S configured as 
sound in and out in device manager and nothing plugged in to the rear of 
the K3S other than external speakers in the speaker jack - nothing to 
MIC or LINE In or LINE Out.


Menu Settings:
MIC SEL is FP.L
MIC + LIN ON

CONFIG Settings:
KIO3B nor
LIN OUT nor 010
MIC BTN OFF
L --MIX -- R  A  B
RS232  USB
SPKRS  2
SPKR+PH  YES



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Re: [Elecraft] P3_SVGA Wireless KB Support?

[rich hurd WC3T]

Thanks for the tip, Marc.  Can't wait to try this out.  Hadn't even
considered it.  :)

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 10:01 AM Marc Veeneman via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> To conserve desk space, I’ve purchased “compact thin” wireless keyboards
> for the P3SVGA and for the PX3.  They all seem to work well.
>
> And don’t forget the P3/PX3 ability to trigger macros from the function
> keys on these keyboards.  Very handy and I’m pleased Elecraft saw fit to
> include that.
> —
> Marc W8SDG
>
> > On Jun 25, 2018, at 9:47 AM, Mark E. Musick 
> wrote:
> >
> > Ken,
> > I use a Logitech K360 wireless keyboard with my P3. It works great.
> > I've used it to make many RTTY QSOs.
> >
> > 73,
> > Mark, WB9CIF
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
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> >
> >
> > I have a P3 and will be ordering the P3_SVGA.  I assume this will NOT
> > support a wireless USB keyboard, but just thought I would confirm before
> > buying one...  On the topic, any favorite keyboards I should consider -
> or
> > avoid?   Thanks for your input!
> >
> > 73
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] P3_SVGA Wireless KB Support?

[Marc Veeneman via Elecraft]

To conserve desk space, I’ve purchased “compact thin” wireless keyboards for 
the P3SVGA and for the PX3.  They all seem to work well.  

And don’t forget the P3/PX3 ability to trigger macros from the function keys on 
these keyboards.  Very handy and I’m pleased Elecraft saw fit to include that.
— 
Marc W8SDG

> On Jun 25, 2018, at 9:47 AM, Mark E. Musick  wrote:
> 
> Ken,
> I use a Logitech K360 wireless keyboard with my P3. It works great. 
> I've used it to make many RTTY QSOs.
> 
> 73,
> Mark, WB9CIF
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On
> Behalf Of N4OI - Ken
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 12:29 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] P3_SVGA Wireless KB Support?
> 
> 
> I have a P3 and will be ordering the P3_SVGA.  I assume this will NOT
> support a wireless USB keyboard, but just thought I would confirm before
> buying one...  On the topic, any favorite keyboards I should consider - or
> avoid?   Thanks for your input!
> 
> 73  
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3_SVGA Wireless KB Support?

[Dave Cole (NK7Z)]

As long as the keyboard appears to be a dumb keyboard it should work... 
I have a Genovation 64 Key programmable keypad working that fires macros 
into the SVGA, at the push of a single button.  See:


https://www.nk7z.net/adding-external-keypad-k3/

I fire all sorts of prebuilt macros into the P3, from reconfiguring the 
rig for various modes, to setting up complex split operations for DX, to 
sending my call in CW.


I program the Genovation once, (and never touch it again programming 
wise), then just add my macros to the P3 after that.  Once a macro is 
added, that macro is available at a single button press from then on.


Works great in a pileup.  I press the "Split Plus" button on the 
Genovation and the P3 moves the tuned DX signal to the hard left side of 
the P3 display, sets the span of the P3 to 5 KHz., (showing me the 5 
KHz. above the DX signal), turns on VFO B for control of my my transmit 
on the K3, narrows the K3 filter to 100 Hz., (centered on the DX 
signal), centers the IF passband on my DX signal, and then shows the 
transmit cursor on the P3.


This lets me find a hole in the pileup, use the VFO B knob on the K3 to 
move my transmit to that hole in the pileup, and when I hit the ID 
button it fires off my ID as fast, and as often as I press the button 
for ID.  The entire operation takes about 2 seconds to set up, and start 
calling...


73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
https://www.nk7z.net

On 06/25/2018 05:29 AM, N4OI - Ken wrote:


I have a P3 and will be ordering the P3_SVGA.  I assume this will NOT
support a wireless USB keyboard, but just thought I would confirm before
buying one...  On the topic, any favorite keyboards I should consider - or
avoid?   Thanks for your input!

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Re: [Elecraft] P3_SVGA Wireless KB Support?

[Mark E. Musick]

Ken,
I use a Logitech K360 wireless keyboard with my P3. It works great. 
I've used it to make many RTTY QSOs.

73,
Mark, WB9CIF

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] P3_SVGA Wireless KB Support?


I have a P3 and will be ordering the P3_SVGA.  I assume this will NOT
support a wireless USB keyboard, but just thought I would confirm before
buying one...  On the topic, any favorite keyboards I should consider - or
avoid?   Thanks for your input!

73  



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Re: [Elecraft] P3_SVGA Wireless KB Support?

[Don Wilhelm]

Ken,

It will work with SOME wireless keyboards.  Best if you can try them 
before buying.  It must be a PC keyboard, those for the Mac will not work.


73,
Don W3FPR

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[Elecraft] P3_SVGA Wireless KB Support?

[N4OI - Ken]

I have a P3 and will be ordering the P3_SVGA.  I assume this will NOT
support a wireless USB keyboard, but just thought I would confirm before
buying one...  On the topic, any favorite keyboards I should consider - or
avoid?   Thanks for your input!

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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day Report

[Rod Hardman]

Oakville ARC VE3HB (Ontario, Canada) ran an all KX2 QRP Battery Field Day this 
year from a a country back yard. Lots of rain but good times. 

Quite a positive education for all, esp the hardcore CW ops accustomed to 100 
Watt contest stations. Ended up logging on iPads (Hamlog) syncing to a 
Raspberry Pi Zero Server - which the Operators found easy in power but the lack 
of automation proved tedious. (We should have implemented the Piglets) That’s 
ok, we automated with people!

Everyone had very good things to say about the KX2. Fantastic experience and 
the bands were kind to us. 

Best part was not having to listen to the generators (no end of Field day 
headache!)

Rod, VA3ON

On Jun 24, 2018, at 23:40,   
wrote:

FD was a hoot from the farm here in southside Virginia.  The KX2, an Alpha 
Delta dipole, and N1MM+ on a $99 Kodak laptop performed flawlessly.  The most 
amazing thing was 10m!  Since I embarked on my QRP CW adventure 4 years ago I 
had logged not a single 10m contact. This weekend I bagged 26 Qs on 10m, and as 
many on 15m.  My total of 212 in 6 hours of operation certainly thrilled me!  I 
really miss the FD social events of the late 1980's in Greensboro,  NC. But 
when you are trying to bust a pileup with 5-watts who has time for socializing?
Ken ke4rg

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Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day Report

A large group gathered for the K6SRA 3A/SCV FD operation in San Jose. Despite 
temperatures in the mid-90 s and blistering sunshine, we had many visitors, 
including a lot of curious non-hams. 

This tends to be a social event with lots of conversation and ad-hoc 
experimentation with radios and antennas, so I won t be bragging about our 
claimed Field Day score. Still, a good time was had by all, with vast 
quantities of water and other liquids consumed to avoid heat stroke.

Late Saturday afternoon I undertook a brief solo trek to exercise the KX2. I 
had intended to climb a nearby hill. Given the outrageous temperatures, I 
settled for a picnic table on the other side of the parking lot, beneath a 
large oak. 

Normally I would have tossed a wire into this tree. Instead I used a prototype 
2-band, 4  whip, in keeping with the  two QSOs per foot challenge  we proposed 
in a recent Elecraft newsletter. I made 10 QSOs over the course of about 20 
minutes (that s 3.00 Q/ft, for those keeping score), ranging from KH6 to the 
East Coast. 

Overall, conditions were not thrilling. 20 meters was pretty much single-hop 
until Saturday evening. 15 m was deceased until this morning when, back at the 
home QTH, I noticed things picking up on this band around the same time as some 
sporadic-E kicking in on 6 m.

Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S HI SIGNAL

[aj4tf]

Thanks for the inputs on and off list.  It appears that during FD we may have
had two rigs on the same band inadvertently.  I'll be talking with support
this week.  By the way,  I got a personal message from Wayne on this topic. 
Do you think that would happen with Yacomwood?

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