Re: [Elecraft] Fw: KX3 with KX3 Companion application
The original question was not about a PC at all - it was about an Android app called KX3 Companion running on an Android tablet. The application website states in one place that the USB cable that comes with the KX3, plus an OTG cable, are all that is needed. However, later in states that a new feature has been added to display the audio spectrum and waterfall, and this requires one extra cable (from audio outpu of the KX3 to the audio input jack of the Android device). Aubrey, you didn't say whether you got the CAT control functions of the app working or not. I'd advise you to make sure that's working before dealing with the waterfall/spectrum display. It's important with Android apps like this that you have a true "OTG" cable, AND that your Android device includes OTG support (not all do). The OTG cable lets you plug USB devices (like thumb drives, keyboards, etc.) into an Android device. Some cables have the proper connectors but are not wired to support OTG, so make sure you have the right cable. You must also verify that your tablet supports OTG in the first place. Look for an app called USB OTG Checker - this will tell you whether your tablet supports OTG. If so, any OTG cable should work, and you should be able to control the KX3 with the app. Once that works, you can connect the audio output from the KX3 to the tablet's microphone input and see if the spectrum display works. Depending on your tablet, you may need some kind of adapter to split out the microphone input (some tablets and phones combine the mic input with the headphone jack). Near as I can tell, this is strictly a audio spectrum scope and does not take advantage of the quadrature (I/Q) output of the KX3. The author does state that you can use one channel of the I/Q output as your audio feed if you like, or you can take it from the Phones jack. On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 8:57 PM Don Wilhelm wrote: > Bill, > > It depends on the computer and the external soundcard - so the answer is > 'maybe'. > In general, if there is only one input, and it is configured for MIC, it > will be mono. If configured for LINE, it will be stereo. > > So it depends on the soundcard settings. If there are separate MIC and > LINE inputs, check your computer specs. There is no one answer other > than "it all depends". > > My college professor's advice back in 1966 was "Technician/Engineer, > know your equipment and its capabilities as well as its limitations" - > that still applies today. One cannot speak in generalities about any > equipment type unless the specifics are known - study the specifications > for the proper answers to your specific equipment. > > Based on that information, the one answer to your question is "maybe". > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 1/8/2020 8:19 PM, Nr4c wrote: > > Are computer mic inputs still mostly MONO while the LineIn inputs are > usually STEREO? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ...nr4c. bill > > > > > >> On Jan 8, 2020, at 4:56 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > >> > >> Aubrey, > >> > >> Did you enter the menu and set the RX IQ parameter to ON? If set to > OFF (the default) there will be nothing out of the RX IQ jack. > >> > >> 73, > >> Don W3FPR > >> > >>> On 1/8/2020 4:28 PM, Aubrey Mason wrote: > >>> > >>> From: Aubrey Mason > >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:27 PM > >>> To: Walter Underwood > >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application > >>> I need to know the specifics from someone who has already done it.. > >>> None of the written materials say what needs to be done and an audio > cable between Rec IQ and the mic input of the tablet does nothing. > >> __ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dave.w...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information
True but there are tuning solutions that appear safe at low power yet exceed the amp return voltage allowances at high power (it isn’t the best tuning mix) and trip the amp. The amp is re-enabled as soon as the tuning is completed, a risk. So it’s wise to at least test the match after tuning, with the amp on, with just the tuning energy and if ok (medium power out of the amp), then raise to the desired level of output for a ‘final’ test. At least until the tuner has been programmed for all bins in each band. Using resonant antennas is SO much simpler. 😉 Rick NK7I Smell Czech corruptions are inevitable > On Jan 8, 2020, at 6:51 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: > > Jack - > > I don't see any need to do that. The tuner cuts the amp until the new > antenna is tuned. > > 73 > Lyn, WØLEN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Fw: KX3 with KX3 Companion application
Bill, It depends on the computer and the external soundcard - so the answer is 'maybe'. In general, if there is only one input, and it is configured for MIC, it will be mono. If configured for LINE, it will be stereo. So it depends on the soundcard settings. If there are separate MIC and LINE inputs, check your computer specs. There is no one answer other than "it all depends". My college professor's advice back in 1966 was "Technician/Engineer, know your equipment and its capabilities as well as its limitations" - that still applies today. One cannot speak in generalities about any equipment type unless the specifics are known - study the specifications for the proper answers to your specific equipment. Based on that information, the one answer to your question is "maybe". 73, Don W3FPR On 1/8/2020 8:19 PM, Nr4c wrote: Are computer mic inputs still mostly MONO while the LineIn inputs are usually STEREO? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill On Jan 8, 2020, at 4:56 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Aubrey, Did you enter the menu and set the RX IQ parameter to ON? If set to OFF (the default) there will be nothing out of the RX IQ jack. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/8/2020 4:28 PM, Aubrey Mason wrote: From: Aubrey Mason Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:27 PM To: Walter Underwood Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application I need to know the specifics from someone who has already done it.. None of the written materials say what needs to be done and an audio cable between Rec IQ and the mic input of the tablet does nothing. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information
Jack - I don't see any need to do that. The tuner cuts the amp until the new antenna is tuned. 73 Lyn, WØLEN -Original Message- From: Jack Spitznagel [mailto:kd...@frawg.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 8:06 PM To: Tom KG3V Cc: l...@lnainc.com; Bob McGraw K4TAX; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information Hi Tom, I am also a very happy KPA500/KAT500 user with an IC7000, 7100, and 7300. I home brewed my own interface for the antenna tuner and the “big DIN” connector. They all start an autoswitch routine to memorized frequency values that is fast and accurate. I always put the KPA500 in standby when I change bands that require an antenna switch over. Never owned a better Amp/Tuner combo. Jack - KD4IZ Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 8, 2020, at 19:55, Tom KG3V wrote: > > Lyn, > > That is very interesting. Maybe I have an issue that I do not understand. It > sounds like your setup is working as I would have expected. I also have a > 7300, so I will have to give that a try. I do not usually use the 7300 with > the KAT-500 and I am a little worried about powering the KAT-500 from the > 7300. > > 73, > > Tom, KG3V > > >> On 1/8/2020 4:49 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: >> >> Coming in late on this discussion ... but wanting to add my .02 worth. >> >> I have a setup similar to Tom's, except I have the IC-7300. With that unit, >> the KAT500 does, in fact, follow band changes on the 7300 with the */FIRST >> /*TUNE request. It doesn't matter if I hit TUNE on the KAT, the 7300 or in >> software (FT8). >> >> The KPA is already on the correct band, as it DOES follow band changes on >> the 7300. >> >> Lyn, W0LEN >> >> -Original Message- >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX >> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:19 PM >> To: Tom KG3V >> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information >> >> Check the KAT500 utility to see which antennas are authorized and for which >> bands. You will need to supply RF from the IC7600 in order for the KAT 500 >> to know what to do. >> >> If you have 2 antennas authorized for the same band that will confuse the >> issue. Also selecting LastUsed may be an issue where band data is not >> available. >> >> Bob, K4TAX >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Dec 26, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Tom KG3V wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Don, >> >> > >> >> > Good to hear from you. You helped me many times with K2 questions in the >> > past. Thanks for that! Hope you are enjoying the Holiday Season. >> >> > >> >> > I actually meant the TUNE button on the IC-7600. You must have meant on >> > the KAT-500, since there is not a TUNE button on the KPA-500. It does not >> > seem to matter which TUNE button I press. I think you confirmed that it is >> > working as expected. Still a bit annoying. As soon as the TUNE cycle >> > starts, of course there is RF. I guess the KAT-500 is not sensing >> > frequency DURING the TUNE event. So, any time I switch Bands, I may go >> > through a "complete" Tune cycle with an antenna for the wrong Band. Of >> > course, that most likely will not complete with a match. The second TUNE >> > cycle always selects the desired antenna. >> >> > >> >> > I think I need to send the Band information from the IC-7600 to the >> > KAT-500. My other option will be to use only one antenna with the KAT-500 >> > during Contests. Is it safe to assume that if I send the Band info, this >> > would not happen and the first TUNE cycle would be with the "correct" >> > antenna? >> >> > >> >> > 73, >> >> > >> >> > Tom, KG3V >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> On 12/26/2019 11:15 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >> >> >> Tom, >> >> >> >> >> >> If by "hit the TUNE button", you are referring to the TUNE button on the >> >> KPA500, those results are completely understandable. >> >> >> >> >> >> Changing bands on your transceiver is not communicated to the KAT500 yet >> >> - (it will only be communicated when you provide RF to the KAT500). >> >> >> >> >> >> So the KAT500 will not switch bands and will attempt to tune on the wrong >> >> antenna initially. Once the KAT500 senses RF, it will know that the band >> >> is not correct and will switch to the proper antenna for the band in use. >> >> >> >> >> >> In your second scenerio, you are providing RF to the KAT500 first and it >> >> will behave properly, so use that sequence. >> >> >> >> >> >> You should not have any problems with the KPA500 if you have the keying >> >> cable run correctly - from the transceiver to the KAT500 and then from >> >> the KAT500 to the KPA500. >> >> >> The KAT500 interrupts the keying line to the KPA500 so the tuning is done >> >> only with the exciter power level. >> >> >> >> >> >> 73 and HNY, >> >> >> Don W3FPR >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 12/26/2019 9:39 AM, Tom KG3V wrote: >> >> >
Re: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information
Tom - There is no problem in powering the KAT500 from the IC7300. Works like a charm, and powers as the Icom AH4 tuner does. 73 Lyn, WØLEN -Original Message- From: Jack Spitznagel [mailto:kd...@frawg.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 8:06 PM To: Tom KG3V Cc: l...@lnainc.com; Bob McGraw K4TAX; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information Hi Tom, I am also a very happy KPA500/KAT500 user with an IC7000, 7100, and 7300. I home brewed my own interface for the antenna tuner and the “big DIN” connector. They all start an autoswitch routine to memorized frequency values that is fast and accurate. I always put the KPA500 in standby when I change bands that require an antenna switch over. Never owned a better Amp/Tuner combo. Jack - KD4IZ Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 8, 2020, at 19:55, Tom KG3V wrote: > > Lyn, > > That is very interesting. Maybe I have an issue that I do not understand. It > sounds like your setup is working as I would have expected. I also have a > 7300, so I will have to give that a try. I do not usually use the 7300 with > the KAT-500 and I am a little worried about powering the KAT-500 from the > 7300. > > 73, > > Tom, KG3V > > >> On 1/8/2020 4:49 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: >> >> Coming in late on this discussion ... but wanting to add my .02 worth. >> >> I have a setup similar to Tom's, except I have the IC-7300. With that unit, >> the KAT500 does, in fact, follow band changes on the 7300 with the */FIRST >> /*TUNE request. It doesn't matter if I hit TUNE on the KAT, the 7300 or in >> software (FT8). >> >> The KPA is already on the correct band, as it DOES follow band changes on >> the 7300. >> >> Lyn, W0LEN >> >> -Original Message- >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX >> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:19 PM >> To: Tom KG3V >> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information >> >> Check the KAT500 utility to see which antennas are authorized and for which >> bands. You will need to supply RF from the IC7600 in order for the KAT 500 >> to know what to do. >> >> If you have 2 antennas authorized for the same band that will confuse the >> issue. Also selecting LastUsed may be an issue where band data is not >> available. >> >> Bob, K4TAX >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Dec 26, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Tom KG3V wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Don, >> >> > >> >> > Good to hear from you. You helped me many times with K2 questions in the >> > past. Thanks for that! Hope you are enjoying the Holiday Season. >> >> > >> >> > I actually meant the TUNE button on the IC-7600. You must have meant on >> > the KAT-500, since there is not a TUNE button on the KPA-500. It does not >> > seem to matter which TUNE button I press. I think you confirmed that it is >> > working as expected. Still a bit annoying. As soon as the TUNE cycle >> > starts, of course there is RF. I guess the KAT-500 is not sensing >> > frequency DURING the TUNE event. So, any time I switch Bands, I may go >> > through a "complete" Tune cycle with an antenna for the wrong Band. Of >> > course, that most likely will not complete with a match. The second TUNE >> > cycle always selects the desired antenna. >> >> > >> >> > I think I need to send the Band information from the IC-7600 to the >> > KAT-500. My other option will be to use only one antenna with the KAT-500 >> > during Contests. Is it safe to assume that if I send the Band info, this >> > would not happen and the first TUNE cycle would be with the "correct" >> > antenna? >> >> > >> >> > 73, >> >> > >> >> > Tom, KG3V >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> On 12/26/2019 11:15 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >> >> >> Tom, >> >> >> >> >> >> If by "hit the TUNE button", you are referring to the TUNE button on the >> >> KPA500, those results are completely understandable. >> >> >> >> >> >> Changing bands on your transceiver is not communicated to the KAT500 yet >> >> - (it will only be communicated when you provide RF to the KAT500). >> >> >> >> >> >> So the KAT500 will not switch bands and will attempt to tune on the wrong >> >> antenna initially. Once the KAT500 senses RF, it will know that the band >> >> is not correct and will switch to the proper antenna for the band in use. >> >> >> >> >> >> In your second scenerio, you are providing RF to the KAT500 first and it >> >> will behave properly, so use that sequence. >> >> >> >> >> >> You should not have any problems with the KPA500 if you have the keying >> >> cable run correctly - from the transceiver to the KAT500 and then from >> >> the KAT500 to the KPA500. >> >> >> The KAT500 interrupts the keying line to the KPA500 so the tuning is done >> >> only with the exciter power level. >> >> >> >> >> >> 73 and HNY, >> >> >> Don W3FPR >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 12/26/2019 9:3
Re: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information
Hi Tom, I am also a very happy KPA500/KAT500 user with an IC7000, 7100, and 7300. I home brewed my own interface for the antenna tuner and the “big DIN” connector. They all start an autoswitch routine to memorized frequency values that is fast and accurate. I always put the KPA500 in standby when I change bands that require an antenna switch over. Never owned a better Amp/Tuner combo. Jack - KD4IZ Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 8, 2020, at 19:55, Tom KG3V wrote: > > Lyn, > > That is very interesting. Maybe I have an issue that I do not understand. It > sounds like your setup is working as I would have expected. I also have a > 7300, so I will have to give that a try. I do not usually use the 7300 with > the KAT-500 and I am a little worried about powering the KAT-500 from the > 7300. > > 73, > > Tom, KG3V > > >> On 1/8/2020 4:49 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: >> >> Coming in late on this discussion ... but wanting to add my .02 worth. >> >> I have a setup similar to Tom's, except I have the IC-7300. With that unit, >> the KAT500 does, in fact, follow band changes on the 7300 with the */FIRST >> /*TUNE request. It doesn't matter if I hit TUNE on the KAT, the 7300 or in >> software (FT8). >> >> The KPA is already on the correct band, as it DOES follow band changes on >> the 7300. >> >> Lyn, W0LEN >> >> -Original Message- >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX >> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:19 PM >> To: Tom KG3V >> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information >> >> Check the KAT500 utility to see which antennas are authorized and for which >> bands. You will need to supply RF from the IC7600 in order for the KAT 500 >> to know what to do. >> >> If you have 2 antennas authorized for the same band that will confuse the >> issue. Also selecting LastUsed may be an issue where band data is not >> available. >> >> Bob, K4TAX >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Dec 26, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Tom KG3V wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Don, >> >> > >> >> > Good to hear from you. You helped me many times with K2 questions in the >> > past. Thanks for that! Hope you are enjoying the Holiday Season. >> >> > >> >> > I actually meant the TUNE button on the IC-7600. You must have meant on >> > the KAT-500, since there is not a TUNE button on the KPA-500. It does not >> > seem to matter which TUNE button I press. I think you confirmed that it is >> > working as expected. Still a bit annoying. As soon as the TUNE cycle >> > starts, of course there is RF. I guess the KAT-500 is not sensing >> > frequency DURING the TUNE event. So, any time I switch Bands, I may go >> > through a "complete" Tune cycle with an antenna for the wrong Band. Of >> > course, that most likely will not complete with a match. The second TUNE >> > cycle always selects the desired antenna. >> >> > >> >> > I think I need to send the Band information from the IC-7600 to the >> > KAT-500. My other option will be to use only one antenna with the KAT-500 >> > during Contests. Is it safe to assume that if I send the Band info, this >> > would not happen and the first TUNE cycle would be with the "correct" >> > antenna? >> >> > >> >> > 73, >> >> > >> >> > Tom, KG3V >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> On 12/26/2019 11:15 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >> >> >> Tom, >> >> >> >> >> >> If by "hit the TUNE button", you are referring to the TUNE button on the >> >> KPA500, those results are completely understandable. >> >> >> >> >> >> Changing bands on your transceiver is not communicated to the KAT500 yet >> >> - (it will only be communicated when you provide RF to the KAT500). >> >> >> >> >> >> So the KAT500 will not switch bands and will attempt to tune on the wrong >> >> antenna initially. Once the KAT500 senses RF, it will know that the band >> >> is not correct and will switch to the proper antenna for the band in use. >> >> >> >> >> >> In your second scenerio, you are providing RF to the KAT500 first and it >> >> will behave properly, so use that sequence. >> >> >> >> >> >> You should not have any problems with the KPA500 if you have the keying >> >> cable run correctly - from the transceiver to the KAT500 and then from >> >> the KAT500 to the KPA500. >> >> >> The KAT500 interrupts the keying line to the KPA500 so the tuning is done >> >> only with the exciter power level. >> >> >> >> >> >> 73 and HNY, >> >> >> Don W3FPR >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 12/26/2019 9:39 AM, Tom KG3V wrote: >> >> >>> I am using a KAT-500 Tuner with an ICOM IC-7600. I am not providing BAND >> >>> data, which is in line with recommendations for connecting this radio in >> >>> the Elecraft manuals. The documents tell me that RF Frequency-sensing >> >>> overrides all other information. I have two antennas enabled. ANT 1 is a >> >>> vertical for 10-40 meters. ANT 2 is an 80 meter d
Re: [Elecraft] Fw: KX3 with KX3 Companion application
Are computer mic inputs still mostly MONO while the LineIn inputs are usually STEREO? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jan 8, 2020, at 4:56 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > Aubrey, > > Did you enter the menu and set the RX IQ parameter to ON? If set to OFF (the > default) there will be nothing out of the RX IQ jack. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 1/8/2020 4:28 PM, Aubrey Mason wrote: >> >> From: Aubrey Mason >> Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:27 PM >> To: Walter Underwood >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application >> I need to know the specifics from someone who has already done it.. >> None of the written materials say what needs to be done and an audio cable >> between Rec IQ and the mic input of the tablet does nothing. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information
Lyn, That is very interesting. Maybe I have an issue that I do not understand. It sounds like your setup is working as I would have expected. I also have a 7300, so I will have to give that a try. I do not usually use the 7300 with the KAT-500 and I am a little worried about powering the KAT-500 from the 7300. 73, Tom, KG3V On 1/8/2020 4:49 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: Coming in late on this discussion ... but wanting to add my .02 worth. I have a setup similar to Tom's, except I have the IC-7300. With that unit, the KAT500 does, in fact, follow band changes on the 7300 with the */FIRST /*TUNE request. It doesn't matter if I hit TUNE on the KAT, the 7300 or in software (FT8). The KPA is already on the correct band, as it DOES follow band changes on the 7300. Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:19 PM To: Tom KG3V Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information Check the KAT500 utility to see which antennas are authorized and for which bands. You will need to supply RF from the IC7600 in order for the KAT 500 to know what to do. If you have 2 antennas authorized for the same band that will confuse the issue. Also selecting LastUsed may be an issue where band data is not available. Bob, K4TAX Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 26, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Tom KG3V wrote: > > Don, > > Good to hear from you. You helped me many times with K2 questions in the past. Thanks for that! Hope you are enjoying the Holiday Season. > > I actually meant the TUNE button on the IC-7600. You must have meant on the KAT-500, since there is not a TUNE button on the KPA-500. It does not seem to matter which TUNE button I press. I think you confirmed that it is working as expected. Still a bit annoying. As soon as the TUNE cycle starts, of course there is RF. I guess the KAT-500 is not sensing frequency DURING the TUNE event. So, any time I switch Bands, I may go through a "complete" Tune cycle with an antenna for the wrong Band. Of course, that most likely will not complete with a match. The second TUNE cycle always selects the desired antenna. > > I think I need to send the Band information from the IC-7600 to the KAT-500. My other option will be to use only one antenna with the KAT-500 during Contests. Is it safe to assume that if I send the Band info, this would not happen and the first TUNE cycle would be with the "correct" antenna? > > 73, > > Tom, KG3V > > > >> On 12/26/2019 11:15 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >> Tom, >> >> If by "hit the TUNE button", you are referring to the TUNE button on the KPA500, those results are completely understandable. >> >> Changing bands on your transceiver is not communicated to the KAT500 yet - (it will only be communicated when you provide RF to the KAT500). >> >> So the KAT500 will not switch bands and will attempt to tune on the wrong antenna initially. Once the KAT500 senses RF, it will know that the band is not correct and will switch to the proper antenna for the band in use. >> >> In your second scenerio, you are providing RF to the KAT500 first and it will behave properly, so use that sequence. >> >> You should not have any problems with the KPA500 if you have the keying cable run correctly - from the transceiver to the KAT500 and then from the KAT500 to the KPA500. >> The KAT500 interrupts the keying line to the KPA500 so the tuning is done only with the exciter power level. >> >> 73 and HNY, >> Don W3FPR >> >>> On 12/26/2019 9:39 AM, Tom KG3V wrote: >>> I am using a KAT-500 Tuner with an ICOM IC-7600. I am not providing BAND data, which is in line with recommendations for connecting this radio in the Elecraft manuals. The documents tell me that RF Frequency-sensing overrides all other information. I have two antennas enabled. ANT 1 is a vertical for 10-40 meters. ANT 2 is an 80 meter dipole. I only ENABLE ANT 2 for 80 meters and only ENABLE ANT 1 for all other Bands, in the KAT Config. >>> >>> If I change Bands and hit the Tune button, KAT-500 will not change to the correct antenna Instead, it tries to Tune with the wrong antenna. The second time I hit TUNE, it will go to the correct antenna. If instead, I change Bands and hit the Key, the correct antenna is selected. That is fine on CW, but not great for other Modes. Is this a bug? I don't see how this could be desirable. I think this would be especially bad if I have the KPA-500 powered-ON. >>> > -- > Get on the Air and make some noise > Ham Blog at WWW.KG3V.COM > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.ne
Re: [Elecraft] Fw: KX3 with KX3 Companion application
In addition to requiring a stereo input (Mic or Line In), an internal soundcard may not have sufficient bandwidth for a panadapter application, and an external soundcard may be needed. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/8/2020 5:01 PM, Barry wrote: Aubrey, A point that I missed, make sure your mic input is actually stereo and not mono, many are. It must be stereo. 73, Barry K3NDM -- Original Message -- From: "Don Wilhelm" To: "Aubrey Mason" ; "Elecraft Reflector" Sent: 1/8/2020 4:51:04 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fw: KX3 with KX3 Companion application Aubrey, Did you enter the menu and set the RX IQ parameter to ON? If set to OFF (the default) there will be nothing out of the RX IQ jack. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/8/2020 4:28 PM, Aubrey Mason wrote: From: Aubrey Mason Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:27 PM To: Walter Underwood Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application I need to know the specifics from someone who has already done it.. None of the written materials say what needs to be done and an audio cable between Rec IQ and the mic input of the tablet does nothing. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to barrylaz...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Fw: KX3 with KX3 Companion application
Aubrey, A point that I missed, make sure your mic input is actually stereo and not mono, many are. It must be stereo. 73, Barry K3NDM -- Original Message -- From: "Don Wilhelm" To: "Aubrey Mason" ; "Elecraft Reflector" Sent: 1/8/2020 4:51:04 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fw: KX3 with KX3 Companion application Aubrey, Did you enter the menu and set the RX IQ parameter to ON? If set to OFF (the default) there will be nothing out of the RX IQ jack. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/8/2020 4:28 PM, Aubrey Mason wrote: From: Aubrey Mason Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:27 PM To: Walter Underwood Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application I need to know the specifics from someone who has already done it.. None of the written materials say what needs to be done and an audio cable between Rec IQ and the mic input of the tablet does nothing. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to barrylaz...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Fw: KX3 with KX3 Companion application
Aubrey I've done a lot of things with KX3. But first, you need to tell me what companion app you are using. The best that I've used so far is Win4K3 with com0com. Win4K3 acts as the center of integration for what you are going to do on your computer, Com0com is the port replicator that creates all of the virtual ports you will use to connect almost everything. There are two cables you will need, one is the cable for the I&Q output and the other is the serial cable that plugs into the radio. You will use the I&Q data to drive a good sound card for spectrum display and to drive apps like CW Skimmer; Skimmer will use one of those virtual ports. The first thing you will need to know is what "real" port the radio is using. You tell Win4K3 what that is. You will need to create virtual port pairs using com0com, and I would create a naming scheme for them like starting at com10. And next decide which side of the pairs you will use for Win4K3 and which side goes to the app that you need to control. I use even numbers for Win4K3 and odd number for the app. It's all pretty straight forward once you see it. And, the serial cable plugs into ACC1. Lastly. write down what you've set up for reference; it will save you in the future. 73, Barry K3NDM -- Original Message -- From: "Aubrey Mason" To: "Elecraft Reflector" Sent: 1/8/2020 4:28:56 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Fw: KX3 with KX3 Companion application From: Aubrey Mason Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:27 PM To: Walter Underwood Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application That part is understood... I have read all the materials from Elecraft and the publisher of KX3 Companion And I've called Elecraft Customer Support. That said; Receiver spectrum data is on the Rec IQ jack and I've been told by someone that they think the KX3 ACC1 should be connected to the USB of the display device using the KX3 serial cable with a USB adapter to fit the USB port of the display device, then the Rec IQ of the KX3 connected to the microphone input of the display device to complete the connections for a Spectrum display... I need to know the specifics from someone who has already done it.. None of the written materials say what needs to be done and an audio cable between Rec IQ and the mic input of the tablet does nothing. Aubrey Mason WA6DMI San Antonio From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on behalf of Walter Underwood Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:00 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application From the website for KX3 Companion: "It connects to your KX3 by using the USB Serial cable that comes with the radio. You’ll also need an inexpensive OTG Cable adapter to connect the serial USB to your mobile device. You can find them for a very few dollars. No other cables are needed!” https://kx3companion.com I don’t know any other details. I don’t use that app and I don’t have any Android devices. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) On Jan 8, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Aubrey Mason wrote: As someone who just bought a KX3 - I am ignorant of how they connect to other devices... I recently purchased a KX3 Companion app for my tablet to use as a waterfall display and I'm having difficulty finding cables to connect the two together. Has anyone else used the KX3 Companion app with the KX3 and how did you connect them? Aubrey Mason WA6DMI San Antonio __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to akengineer...@live.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to barrylaz...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: ht
Re: [Elecraft] Fw: KX3 with KX3 Companion application
Aubrey, Did you enter the menu and set the RX IQ parameter to ON? If set to OFF (the default) there will be nothing out of the RX IQ jack. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/8/2020 4:28 PM, Aubrey Mason wrote: From: Aubrey Mason Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:27 PM To: Walter Underwood Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application I need to know the specifics from someone who has already done it.. None of the written materials say what needs to be done and an audio cable between Rec IQ and the mic input of the tablet does nothing. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information
Coming in late on this discussion ... but wanting to add my .02 worth. I have a setup similar to Tom's, except I have the IC-7300. With that unit, the KAT500 does, in fact, follow band changes on the 7300 with the FIRST TUNE request. It doesn't matter if I hit TUNE on the KAT, the 7300 or in software (FT8). The KPA is already on the correct band, as it DOES follow band changes on the 7300. Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:19 PM To: Tom KG3V Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Using KAT-500 without BAND Information Check the KAT500 utility to see which antennas are authorized and for which bands. You will need to supply RF from the IC7600 in order for the KAT 500 to know what to do. If you have 2 antennas authorized for the same band that will confuse the issue. Also selecting LastUsed may be an issue where band data is not available. Bob, K4TAX Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 26, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Tom KG3V wrote: > > Don, > > Good to hear from you. You helped me many times with K2 questions in the > past. Thanks for that! Hope you are enjoying the Holiday Season. > > I actually meant the TUNE button on the IC-7600. You must have meant on the > KAT-500, since there is not a TUNE button on the KPA-500. It does not seem to > matter which TUNE button I press. I think you confirmed that it is working as > expected. Still a bit annoying. As soon as the TUNE cycle starts, of course > there is RF. I guess the KAT-500 is not sensing frequency DURING the TUNE > event. So, any time I switch Bands, I may go through a "complete" Tune cycle > with an antenna for the wrong Band. Of course, that most likely will not > complete with a match. The second TUNE cycle always selects the desired > antenna. > > I think I need to send the Band information from the IC-7600 to the KAT-500. > My other option will be to use only one antenna with the KAT-500 during > Contests. Is it safe to assume that if I send the Band info, this would not > happen and the first TUNE cycle would be with the "correct" antenna? > > 73, > > Tom, KG3V > > > >> On 12/26/2019 11:15 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >> Tom, >> >> If by "hit the TUNE button", you are referring to the TUNE button on the >> KPA500, those results are completely understandable. >> >> Changing bands on your transceiver is not communicated to the KAT500 yet - >> (it will only be communicated when you provide RF to the KAT500). >> >> So the KAT500 will not switch bands and will attempt to tune on the wrong >> antenna initially. Once the KAT500 senses RF, it will know that the band is >> not correct and will switch to the proper antenna for the band in use. >> >> In your second scenerio, you are providing RF to the KAT500 first and it >> will behave properly, so use that sequence. >> >> You should not have any problems with the KPA500 if you have the keying >> cable run correctly - from the transceiver to the KAT500 and then from the >> KAT500 to the KPA500. >> The KAT500 interrupts the keying line to the KPA500 so the tuning is done >> only with the exciter power level. >> >> 73 and HNY, >> Don W3FPR >> >>> On 12/26/2019 9:39 AM, Tom KG3V wrote: >>> I am using a KAT-500 Tuner with an ICOM IC-7600. I am not providing BAND >>> data, which is in line with recommendations for connecting this radio in >>> the Elecraft manuals. The documents tell me that RF Frequency-sensing >>> overrides all other information. I have two antennas enabled. ANT 1 is a >>> vertical for 10-40 meters. ANT 2 is an 80 meter dipole. I only ENABLE ANT 2 >>> for 80 meters and only ENABLE ANT 1 for all other Bands, in the KAT Config. >>> >>> If I change Bands and hit the Tune button, KAT-500 will not change to the >>> correct antenna Instead, it tries to Tune with the wrong antenna. The >>> second time I hit TUNE, it will go to the correct antenna. If instead, I >>> change Bands and hit the Key, the correct antenna is selected. That is fine >>> on CW, but not great for other Modes. Is this a bug? I don't see how this >>> could be desirable. I think this would be especially bad if I have the >>> KPA-500 powered-ON. >>> > -- > Get on the Air and make some noise > Ham Blog at WWW.KG3V.COM > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/e
[Elecraft] Fw: KX3 with KX3 Companion application
From: Aubrey Mason Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:27 PM To: Walter Underwood Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application That part is understood... I have read all the materials from Elecraft and the publisher of KX3 Companion And I've called Elecraft Customer Support. That said; Receiver spectrum data is on the Rec IQ jack and I've been told by someone that they think the KX3 ACC1 should be connected to the USB of the display device using the KX3 serial cable with a USB adapter to fit the USB port of the display device, then the Rec IQ of the KX3 connected to the microphone input of the display device to complete the connections for a Spectrum display... I need to know the specifics from someone who has already done it.. None of the written materials say what needs to be done and an audio cable between Rec IQ and the mic input of the tablet does nothing. Aubrey Mason WA6DMI San Antonio From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on behalf of Walter Underwood Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:00 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application >From the website for KX3 Companion: "It connects to your KX3 by using the USB Serial cable that comes with the radio. You’ll also need an inexpensive OTG Cable adapter to connect the serial USB to your mobile device. You can find them for a very few dollars. No other cables are needed!” https://kx3companion.com I don’t know any other details. I don’t use that app and I don’t have any Android devices. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jan 8, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Aubrey Mason wrote: > > As someone who just bought a KX3 - I am ignorant of how they connect to other > devices... > > I recently purchased a KX3 Companion app for my tablet to use as a waterfall > display and I'm having difficulty finding cables to connect the two together. > > Has anyone else used the KX3 Companion app with the KX3 and how did you > connect them? > > > Aubrey Mason > WA6DMI > San Antonio > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to akengineer...@live.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WBN: Restartable Server Operation for Elecraft Remote Apps
If you don't mind a little simple programming check out the program AUTOIT (do a google search). It allows you to automate windows programs even simulating mouse clicks on specific buttons and such, might be able to do what you want. Pete Borders WB4TKA On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 1:24 AM Rick Tavan wrote: > It would be nice if KPA500 Remote, KAT500 Remote, and KPA1500 Remote could > be set up to operate as *automatically restartable servers*. I don't think > they can do this today, but if I'm wrong, someone please enlighten me! > > Here's the scenario: These apps all have Host Remote capability. When > enabled, they listen for connection from a client-side instance of the same > app. But it takes two or three mouse clicks to set this up AFTER launching > the server-side programs. If the server computer on which they run suffers > a power failure, it can reboot automatically when power is restored (not > all computers will do this, but many can). However, it's necessary to > restart the app manually, tell it to start hosting, and, at least for > KPA1500, turn the amp back off since the app turns it on during its > initialization process. It would be nice if they had a setting that means > "Automatically go into remote hosting mode and turn OFF the device (or > don't turn it on) upon startup." Then, unattended power failures would be > largely transparent to the control-side user. > > 73, > > /Rick N6XI > > -- > -- > > Rick Tavan > Truckee and Saratoga, CA > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to pwbord...@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application
From the website for KX3 Companion: "It connects to your KX3 by using the USB Serial cable that comes with the radio. You’ll also need an inexpensive OTG Cable adapter to connect the serial USB to your mobile device. You can find them for a very few dollars. No other cables are needed!” https://kx3companion.com I don’t know any other details. I don’t use that app and I don’t have any Android devices. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jan 8, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Aubrey Mason wrote: > > As someone who just bought a KX3 - I am ignorant of how they connect to other > devices... > > I recently purchased a KX3 Companion app for my tablet to use as a waterfall > display and I'm having difficulty finding cables to connect the two together. > > Has anyone else used the KX3 Companion app with the KX3 and how did you > connect them? > > > Aubrey Mason > WA6DMI > San Antonio > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application
As someone who just bought a KX3 - I am ignorant of how they connect to other devices... I recently purchased a KX3 Companion app for my tablet to use as a waterfall display and I'm having difficulty finding cables to connect the two together. Has anyone else used the KX3 Companion app with the KX3 and how did you connect them? Aubrey Mason WA6DMI San Antonio __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
