Re: [Elecraft] Alternative AMP to KX3 since Elecraft has temporarily stopped making AMPS

2020-05-25 Thread Eric Swartz
Hi Jim,

Your order came in while we we've under the shelter in place order for
Santa Cruz County, which slowed down production on the amps. We never
totally stopped their manufacture, but the rate of production was reduced.
 We're catching up now with the backlog and are certainly still shipping
all of the amps (KXPA100, KPA500 and KPA1500).

I'll check tomorrow and get back to you with what we think the remaining
time will be for your order to ship.

73,
Eric
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On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 7:33 PM HamRadioJim  wrote:

> I have a KX3 and looking for an AMP (besides the elecraft brand) that is
> 100
> watts or more that will work flawlessly with it.
>
> I ordered the 100 amp from elecraft, but have been waiting over two months
> for it, but they are out of stock and will be for some time.
>
> Has anyone purchased something else and has used it for a while with really
> good results?  If you have not tested or used an alternative AMP for the
> KX3, please don't respond to the post.  Just looking for those who have
> actual results instead of suggestions.  Greatly appreciated.  Thank you.
>
> -73
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[Elecraft] Alternative AMP to KX3 since Elecraft has temporarily stopped making AMPS

2020-05-25 Thread HamRadioJim
I have a KX3 and looking for an AMP (besides the elecraft brand) that is 100
watts or more that will work flawlessly with it.

I ordered the 100 amp from elecraft, but have been waiting over two months
for it, but they are out of stock and will be for some time. 

Has anyone purchased something else and has used it for a while with really
good results?  If you have not tested or used an alternative AMP for the
KX3, please don't respond to the post.  Just looking for those who have
actual results instead of suggestions.  Greatly appreciated.  Thank you.

-73



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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day

2020-05-25 Thread Peter Wollan
Class D and E are home stations. They certainly began setting up long
before the Friday of FD weekend. They don’t get the extra hours to operate.

   Peter W0LLN


On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 9:08 AM Andy Durbin  wrote:

> The field day rules need to be reviewed and corrected, not just for
> allowed power sources.
>
> Take this for example -
>
> "3. Date and Time Period: Field Day 2020 will be held June 27-28. Field
> Day is ALWAYS the fourth full weekend, beginning at 1800 UTC Saturday and
> ending at 2059 UTC Sunday.
>  3.1. Class A and B (see below) stations that do not begin setting up
> until 1800 UTC on Saturday may operate the entire 27-hour Field Day period.
>  3.2. Stations who begin setting up before 1800 UTC Saturday may work only
> 24 consecutive hours, commencing when on-the-air operations begin.
>  3.3. No class A or B station may begin its set-up earlier than  UTC
> on the Friday (Thursday afternoon or evening local time) preceding the
> Field Day period. Cumulative set-up time shall not exceed a total of 24
> hours."
>
> This rule set allows a 1E station to operate for almost 27 hours.  The
> contest start and end times are defined in rule 3.0.  None of the
> subordinate rules say that a 1E station that performs all setting up after
> 1800 UTC Saturday is not allowed to operate for the full contest period.
>
> It takes me less than 1 hour to convert from mains power to running the
> entire station on a generator.  The rules, as published, allow me to
> connect and start the generator after 1800 UTC Saturday and continue
> operating until 2059 UTC Sunday.
>
> ARRL representatives have told me that 1E stations may operate only 24
> hours but the rules don't say that.
>
> 73,
> Andy, k3wyc
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Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X and Split operation with transverters

2020-05-25 Thread Nr4c
To put a K3(S) into Split mode for DATA, both VFOs must be in same Mode/Submode 
before initiating Split. Easy way is to tap A=B twice quickly to copy frequency 
and other settings to VFO B. 

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...nr4c. bill


> On May 25, 2020, at 7:56 PM, Conrad PA5Y  wrote:
> 
> Hi all. I use the WSJT-X split mode with my K3S on 6m to ensure that if I 
> wish to TX with a low audio tone I will not have audio harmonics in the 
> passband of the TX filter. This works very well. However when I tried it on 
> 2m with my K3S and a transverter I get a message SPLIT N/A. Is this a menu 
> setting that I am not aware of? I have checked that Diversity is not on for 
> the XV-2 which is what I use for 2m.
> 
> It is a very useful feature when it is busy as I can often find a gap low 
> down or very high.
> 
> Any help appreciated.
> 
> 73
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X and Split operation with transverters

2020-05-25 Thread Don Wilhelm

Conrad,

Make sure VFO A and VFO B are on the same band and mode.  An A>B button 
tap will accomplish that.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/25/2020 7:54 PM, Conrad PA5Y wrote:

Hi all. I use the WSJT-X split mode with my K3S on 6m to ensure that if I wish 
to TX with a low audio tone I will not have audio harmonics in the passband of 
the TX filter. This works very well. However when I tried it on 2m with my K3S 
and a transverter I get a message SPLIT N/A. Is this a menu setting that I am 
not aware of? I have checked that Diversity is not on for the XV-2 which is 
what I use for 2m.


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[Elecraft] KX3 /PX3 package

2020-05-25 Thread barry halterman
Guys, the Panadapter PX3,  has been sold.
I did not mention that the KX3 has the KXPD3 paddle too.
Barry
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[Elecraft] WSJT-X and Split operation with transverters

2020-05-25 Thread Conrad PA5Y
Hi all. I use the WSJT-X split mode with my K3S on 6m to ensure that if I wish 
to TX with a low audio tone I will not have audio harmonics in the passband of 
the TX filter. This works very well. However when I tried it on 2m with my K3S 
and a transverter I get a message SPLIT N/A. Is this a menu setting that I am 
not aware of? I have checked that Diversity is not on for the XV-2 which is 
what I use for 2m.

It is a very useful feature when it is busy as I can often find a gap low down 
or very high.

Any help appreciated.

73

Conrad PA5Y
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Re: [Elecraft] K3s and Kx3 availability

2020-05-25 Thread Joseph McIntire
Pm at 5709566172 I am interested in the k3 and or px3 if the price is right

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behalf of barry halterman 
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 3:57:42 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s and Kx3 availability

Hello! This is my first time posting on this reflector so I hope I am not
doing anything I should not be doing.
I have a K3s/100 and Kx3/Px3 for sale.
If anyone is interested please contact me for the particulars.
Both radios are in excellent shape. I had the K3s listed on qrz but little
interest.
Thanks
Barry
K3BO
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[Elecraft] K3s and Kx3 availability

2020-05-25 Thread barry halterman
Hello! This is my first time posting on this reflector so I hope I am not
doing anything I should not be doing.
I have a K3s/100 and Kx3/Px3 for sale.
If anyone is interested please contact me for the particulars.
Both radios are in excellent shape. I had the K3s listed on qrz but little
interest.
Thanks
Barry
K3BO
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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day

2020-05-25 Thread JP Douglas
75 amp AGM batteries still $140.00 on epay w/free shipping, I prefer them to 
the 105 amp/hr batteries as they weigh a little less.
Use it w/50 watt Solar Panel and have done FD from start to finish with it as 
long as weather cooperates.

73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD

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> On May 25, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Phil Kane  wrote:
> 
> On 5/25/2020 10:09 AM, JP Douglas wrote:
> 
>> I bought an 75 amp/hr AGM deep cycle battery a couple of years ago
>> for $138.00 with free shipping from epay, works fine.
> 
> That was a decent price "a couple of years ago".  It's gone up since
> then.  It's almost time to renew my Trojan 27AGM (75 AH) batts.  We're
> planning to move a year from now and I hope that the existing ones will
> hold out until then.  Makes swapping them easy (local pickup from the
> wholesaler).
> 
> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
> 
> From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
> Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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[Elecraft] WTB: P3SVGA

2020-05-25 Thread benny aumala

Looking for P3 option for large screen.

Benny    OH9NB

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Re: [Elecraft] Questions about KX2 possible purchase

2020-05-25 Thread Doug Daniels
Thank you all, individually and collectively. Lots of great information,
not only about purchasing but also about operating the KX2 to get the most
functionality out of it. I've taken the comments and recommendations and
created a reference document for myself.

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 5:05 PM Doug Daniels  wrote:

> I'm looking at the potential purchase of a KX2. It's primary use will be
> SOTA, and other hiking ops. I've narrowed my choice down to this and one
> other rig. I want to make sure of what is included and what is not, and
> what needs to be added to the base rig and price.
>
> My questions are, does the $829.95 price include a battery and tuner. The
> web site isn't clear. If a battery is included, is a second one a wise
> purchase?
> If the tuner isn't included, how necessary is the tuner (I have an end fed
> 80 and am building an end fed 40).
> Is the AX1 worth it for just 20, 17, 15?
> What else is not included that I should be considering?
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day

2020-05-25 Thread Phil Kane
On 5/25/2020 10:09 AM, JP Douglas wrote:

> I bought an 75 amp/hr AGM deep cycle battery a couple of years ago
> for $138.00 with free shipping from epay, works fine.

That was a decent price "a couple of years ago".  It's gone up since
then.  It's almost time to renew my Trojan 27AGM (75 AH) batts.  We're
planning to move a year from now and I hope that the existing ones will
hold out until then.  Makes swapping them easy (local pickup from the
wholesaler).

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

>From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day

2020-05-25 Thread stephen shearer

Also see XLOG

73, steve WB3LGC

On 5/25/20 10:57 AM, Bill Frantz wrote:


Does anyone know of good logging software for linux?

73 Bill AE6JV


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[Elecraft] Questions about KX2 possible purchase

2020-05-25 Thread Frederick Dwight
I have been operating QRP portable for about 65 years.  Until about 15 years 
ago when I got my KX1, I mostly used linked dipoles, and other hard to erect 
antennas.  
Often I did not even set up for portable operation in a campground, mountain 
top, or just because it was too much effort.  All that changed with my KX1 with 
a
built in ATU.  A typical antenna for casual portable operation is a simple 26 
foot piece of wire and a 17 foot counterpoise wire laying on the ground.  This 
worked
great for 40, 30, and 20 meters, got me on the air in a few minutes, and 
produced many hundreds of QSO’s from my locations in Europe, the UK, and from
various places around the “lower 48” states.  Now for sure this simple antenna 
was not equivalent to more complex antennas which I sometimes erect for field
day, etc.  So I would get the ATU for sure, since compromise, or very 
compromise antennas are often your only possibility.  There are other “magic” 
lengths
of wire which enable operation on many other bands with an ATU.  I now have and 
enjoy a KX2 with more power and a better ATU.  I bought the AX1 since
money was not a concern, however I suspect that many (most) wire antennas will 
outperform it, especially on 30 and 40 meters.  You need to consider which
modes of operation, the power level, then number of hours of operation in a 
portable expedition, etc. before deciding the battery configuration.  One 
possibility
is one internal pack, then an appropriate external battery pack with enough 
capacity for an activation.  So far I really enjoy my KX2 with the paddle on CW 
and
have even tested it on SSB a few times.  No significant experience yet with the 
AX1.  Rick  KL7CW

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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day

2020-05-25 Thread JP Douglas
Pricey!
I bought an 75 amp/hr AGM deep cycle battery a couple of years ago for $138.00 
with free shipping from epay, works fine.
73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD

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> On May 24, 2020, at 3:59 PM, James Bennett via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dave,
> 
> I’ve been a customer of Northern Arizona Wind & Sun for many years. I have 
> always been partial to the Concorde “Sun Xtender” line. Here is a link:
> 
> https://www.solar-electric.com/residential/batteries-battery-storage.html?manufacturer=369_battery_type=443_battery_voltage=386
>  
> 
> 
> 73, Jim / W6JHB
> 
>> On May 24, 2020, at 12:14 PM, David Lear  wrote:
>> 
>> Now my club is nixing a close  community effort I'm going to operate FD as
>> 2E running K3/P3 at 100W. Neighbor AF4B operating across the road from me
>> with his K3. Vertical antenna on my front lawn and me operating from my
>> garage. Maybe for 12 hours, if I can make it. Any suggestions for a
>> good quality AGM battery(s). Limit to $250.
>> 
>> 73, Dave Lear NE5DL
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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day

2020-05-25 Thread rich hurd WC3T
I have a solution for your NTP tick if you should ever want to avail
yourself.   It involves a time server and a USB connected GPS receiver.
Works FB until the GPS satellites fall from the sky.  :)

https://morsetutor.com/2014/10/jt65jt9-workstation-gps-time-sync/



On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 10:57 Bill Frantz  wrote:

> Back around 1960, when IBM was developing the 360 series, the
> people working on the architecture document adopted a policy of
> not answering questions. Instead they rewrote the appropriate
> section and asked if it now answered the question. The result
> was the best architectural description of a computer ever produced.
>
> I basically agree with Jim about emergency planning. For me, FT
> modes are out (even if they could pass the necessary traffic)
> because they require accurate time. My MacBook Pro doesn't keep
> accurate time without a continuous connection to a NTP source.
> When I'm at home, that comes via Comcast, which requires mains
> power, and will probably fail for other reasons as well. In the
> field I use my cell phone, which has the same problems.
>
> Power is also difficult. At field day, I've used an inverter 12V
> to 120V to power my laptop power adapter. I don't have to
> describe why this solution is bad in so many dimensions to this group.
>
> To solve the laptop power problem, I built a computer using a
> single board computer and a 12V monitor from Adafruit. When
> running it draws 800 mA, but the computer really isn't fast
> enough for the FT modes. Faster single board computers are
> available, but they draw more power.
>
> This computer still doesn't solve all the problems, I haven't
> found a good linux logging program, and it would be nice to have
> a short term internal battery backup to save the computer state
> when it gets accidentally unplugged. The backup battery should
> be relatively easy. One solution just powers the single board
> computer and not the monitor. Then the user knows power has dropped.
>
> Does anyone know of good logging software for linux?
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
> On 5/24/20 at 2:02 AM, j...@audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) wrote:
>
> >I understand the intent of the statement in the FAQ. My point
> >is that these clarifications should be part of the FD RULES,
> >not an FAQ. To me, an FAQ is answering questions raised because
> >the Rules are poorly written or incomplete. If I were running
> >things, I would ban all FAQs and tell the author(s) of the
> >basic document(s) to finish their job!
>
> ...
>
> >The good thing about requiring true backup power for the computer causes
> us as hams to think more seriously about running in emergencies. The bad
> thing is that independent of the mains AND not powered by a generator is
> that most laptops now need 16-20V at their power socket, it's hard to find
> QUIET DC-DC converters, and it probably takes more power to run the laptop
> than to run a KX3.
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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day

2020-05-25 Thread David Herring
Take a look at cqrlog, cqrlog.com  and see if that would 
work for you. 

73,
David - N5DCH

> On May 25, 2020, at 8:57 AM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
> 
> Back around 1960, when IBM was developing the 360 series, the people working 
> on the architecture document adopted a policy of not answering questions. 
> Instead they rewrote the appropriate section and asked if it now answered the 
> question. The result was the best architectural description of a computer 
> ever produced.
> 
> I basically agree with Jim about emergency planning. For me, FT modes are out 
> (even if they could pass the necessary traffic) because they require accurate 
> time. My MacBook Pro doesn't keep accurate time without a continuous 
> connection to a NTP source. When I'm at home, that comes via Comcast, which 
> requires mains power, and will probably fail for other reasons as well. In 
> the field I use my cell phone, which has the same problems.
> 
> Power is also difficult. At field day, I've used an inverter 12V to 120V to 
> power my laptop power adapter. I don't have to describe why this solution is 
> bad in so many dimensions to this group.
> 
> To solve the laptop power problem, I built a computer using a single board 
> computer and a 12V monitor from Adafruit. When running it draws 800 mA, but 
> the computer really isn't fast enough for the FT modes. Faster single board 
> computers are available, but they draw more power.
> 
> This computer still doesn't solve all the problems, I haven't found a good 
> linux logging program, and it would be nice to have a short term internal 
> battery backup to save the computer state when it gets accidentally 
> unplugged. The backup battery should be relatively easy. One solution just 
> powers the single board computer and not the monitor. Then the user knows 
> power has dropped.
> 
> Does anyone know of good logging software for linux?
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
> On 5/24/20 at 2:02 AM, j...@audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) wrote:
> 
>> I understand the intent of the statement in the FAQ. My point is that these 
>> clarifications should be part of the FD RULES, not an FAQ. To me, an FAQ is 
>> answering questions raised because the Rules are poorly written or 
>> incomplete. If I were running things, I would ban all FAQs and tell the 
>> author(s) of the basic document(s) to finish their job!
> 
> ...
> 
>> The good thing about requiring true backup power for the computer causes us 
>> as hams to think more seriously about running in emergencies. The bad thing 
>> is that independent of the mains AND not powered by a generator is that most 
>> laptops now need 16-20V at their power socket, it's hard to find QUIET DC-DC 
>> converters, and it probably takes more power to run the laptop than to run a 
>> KX3.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day

2020-05-25 Thread Bill Frantz
Back around 1960, when IBM was developing the 360 series, the 
people working on the architecture document adopted a policy of 
not answering questions. Instead they rewrote the appropriate 
section and asked if it now answered the question. The result 
was the best architectural description of a computer ever produced.


I basically agree with Jim about emergency planning. For me, FT 
modes are out (even if they could pass the necessary traffic) 
because they require accurate time. My MacBook Pro doesn't keep 
accurate time without a continuous connection to a NTP source. 
When I'm at home, that comes via Comcast, which requires mains 
power, and will probably fail for other reasons as well. In the 
field I use my cell phone, which has the same problems.


Power is also difficult. At field day, I've used an inverter 12V 
to 120V to power my laptop power adapter. I don't have to 
describe why this solution is bad in so many dimensions to this group.


To solve the laptop power problem, I built a computer using a 
single board computer and a 12V monitor from Adafruit. When 
running it draws 800 mA, but the computer really isn't fast 
enough for the FT modes. Faster single board computers are 
available, but they draw more power.


This computer still doesn't solve all the problems, I haven't 
found a good linux logging program, and it would be nice to have 
a short term internal battery backup to save the computer state 
when it gets accidentally unplugged. The backup battery should 
be relatively easy. One solution just powers the single board 
computer and not the monitor. Then the user knows power has dropped.


Does anyone know of good logging software for linux?

73 Bill AE6JV

On 5/24/20 at 2:02 AM, j...@audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) wrote:

I understand the intent of the statement in the FAQ. My point 
is that these clarifications should be part of the FD RULES, 
not an FAQ. To me, an FAQ is answering questions raised because 
the Rules are poorly written or incomplete. If I were running 
things, I would ban all FAQs and tell the author(s) of the 
basic document(s) to finish their job!


...


The good thing about requiring true backup power for the computer causes us as 
hams to think more seriously about running in emergencies. The bad thing is 
that independent of the mains AND not powered by a generator is that most 
laptops now need 16-20V at their power socket, it's hard to find QUIET DC-DC 
converters, and it probably takes more power to run the laptop than to run a 
KX3.


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(408)348-7900  | Voice and CW. | 150 Rivermead 
Rd #235
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NH 03458


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[Elecraft] Field Day

2020-05-25 Thread Andy Durbin
The field day rules need to be reviewed and corrected, not just for allowed 
power sources.

Take this for example -

"3. Date and Time Period: Field Day 2020 will be held June 27-28. Field Day is 
ALWAYS the fourth full weekend, beginning at 1800 UTC Saturday and ending at 
2059 UTC Sunday.
 3.1. Class A and B (see below) stations that do not begin setting up until 
1800 UTC on Saturday may operate the entire 27-hour Field Day period.
 3.2. Stations who begin setting up before 1800 UTC Saturday may work only 24 
consecutive hours, commencing when on-the-air operations begin.
 3.3. No class A or B station may begin its set-up earlier than  UTC on the 
Friday (Thursday afternoon or evening local time) preceding the Field Day 
period. Cumulative set-up time shall not exceed a total of 24 hours."

This rule set allows a 1E station to operate for almost 27 hours.  The contest 
start and end times are defined in rule 3.0.  None of the subordinate rules say 
that a 1E station that performs all setting up after 1800 UTC Saturday is not 
allowed to operate for the full contest period.

It takes me less than 1 hour to convert from mains power to running the entire 
station on a generator.  The rules, as published, allow me to connect and start 
the generator after 1800 UTC Saturday and continue operating until 2059 UTC 
Sunday.

ARRL representatives have told me that 1E stations may operate only 24 hours 
but the rules don't say that.

73,
Andy, k3wyc

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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day

2020-05-25 Thread Jim Brown

Bill,

I understand the intent of the statement in the FAQ. My point is that 
these clarifications should be part of the FD RULES, not an FAQ. To me, 
an FAQ is answering questions raised because the Rules are poorly 
written or incomplete. If I were running things, I would ban all FAQs 
and tell the author(s) of the basic document(s) to finish their job!


When I first did FD in 1957, we logged on paper and kept paper dupe 
sheets. One guy operated, a second kept the log and the dupe sheet. The 
rules have not changed much since then, and to some extent, those days 
are still the mindset of both the League and many club participants.


BTW -- my question about the monitor was rhetorical, and I don't agree 
with your logic about it. It's part of the computer's user interface -- 
we humans can't operate the computer to control a radio without it.


The good thing about requiring true backup power for the computer causes 
us as hams to think more seriously about running in emergencies. The bad 
thing is that independent of the mains AND not powered by a generator is 
that most laptops now need 16-20V at their power socket, it's hard to 
find QUIET DC-DC converters, and it probably takes more power to run the 
laptop than to run a KX3.


There's the interpretation of another contesting rule that is the basis 
of "split site" operation during Sweepstakes. Two operators run one day 
from their own QTH, then trade QTHs for the second day. This was 
originated by our own big club, NCCC, and has since been adopted by 
other clubs. The RULES says that 1) each operation needs to use a 
different call (usually a Club call) and 2) a TRANSMITTER may be used 
with only one call during a contest. This means four calls and four 
transmitters. Starting out in broadcasting a few years after that first 
FD, I've always viewed a power amp as part a transmitter, but the Rules 
are not interpreted that way -- they apply it only to the transceiver!


73, Jim K9YC

On 5/24/2020 5:09 PM, Nr4c wrote:

The monitor does not control anything, so it can be powered anyway you want.  
But if you push buttons on the Winkeyer and it’s not connected to the computer 
then you are ok. But if you let n1mm do the keying ( Winkeyer or not) then the 
computer must be on battrry or some form of emergency power.


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