Re: [Elecraft] Audio output routing confusion

2020-07-27 Thread Nr4c
I think you can only hear Main Rec VFO A or VFO B. The only way to hear VFO A 
and VFO B at the same time is with KRX3 sub-receiver as VFO B. 

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> On Jul 27, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Jim Rhodes  wrote:
> 
> You need to set the "SPKRS" on the Config menu to "1" in order to hear them
> both at once.
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 5:27 AM Eric Rosenberg 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> After 6 months off the air, I find myself confused by the K3's audio
>> output choices.
>> 
>> While I'm able to hear the Main A VFO and Sub RX VFO through my one
>> speaker, I can't figure out how to (or if) hear both the Main RX A and B
>> VFOs through that speaker.
>> 
>> Is there a way to configure this, or do I need a second speaker or must
>> I use headphones?
>> 
>> Thanks & 73,
>> 
>> Eric
>> W3DQ
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Alpha testers sought: Kenwood, Flex, Yaesu exciters

2020-07-27 Thread rocketnj
Hi Dick,

I would be interested in participating. Using a Flex 6700 via the KXUSB
cable from amp direct to USB port on radio. Set up to track the TX slice on
radio. Been working fine. Flex has a setting to auto poll.

I also have written a flow for Node Red to monitor and control the amp via a
web browser. Using the Ethernet IP connection and sending the ^ commands for
control and monitoring/info. Node Red runs on a Raspberry Pi on the network.


I will reply to you via direct email with my direct contact info.

73
Dave wo2x


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Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Alpha testers sought: Kenwood, Flex, Yaesu
exciters

I've made some recent changes to KPA1500 processing of transceiver frequency
messages from Kenwood, Flex, and Yaesu radios.  Icom CI-V is unchanged.

 

If you use one of these radios and use the KPA1500's XCVR SERIAL connection
to communicate the transceiver's frequency to the KPA1500, I'd appreciate
your help in testing a new version. If you generally use a logging program
to poll the radio and the KPA1500 is set up to observe the commands and
responses, that helps, too.

 

Thanks! 

 

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[Elecraft] KPA1500 Alpha testers sought: Kenwood, Flex, Yaesu exciters

2020-07-27 Thread Dick Dievendorff
I've made some recent changes to KPA1500 processing of transceiver frequency
messages from Kenwood, Flex, and Yaesu radios.  Icom CI-V is unchanged.

 

If you use one of these radios and use the KPA1500's XCVR SERIAL connection
to communicate the transceiver's frequency to the KPA1500, I'd appreciate
your help in testing a new version. If you generally use a logging program
to poll the radio and the KPA1500 is set up to observe the commands and
responses, that helps, too.

 

Thanks! 

 

73 de Dick, K6KR

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 problem

2020-07-27 Thread Don Wilhelm

That is why just looking for loose TMP connectors may not be sufficient.
While you are inside the K3, give all the TMP connectors a slight twist 
which should clear some of the corrosion.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/27/2020 6:25 PM, Wes wrote:
I've had TMP connectors badly corroded in my K3. See: 
https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K3/album?id=37256


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Re: [Elecraft] Audio output routing confusion

2020-07-27 Thread Jim Rhodes
You need to set the "SPKRS" on the Config menu to "1" in order to hear them
both at once.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 5:27 AM Eric Rosenberg 
wrote:

> After 6 months off the air, I find myself confused by the K3's audio
> output choices.
>
> While I'm able to hear the Main A VFO and Sub RX VFO through my one
> speaker, I can't figure out how to (or if) hear both the Main RX A and B
> VFOs through that speaker.
>
> Is there a way to configure this, or do I need a second speaker or must
> I use headphones?
>
> Thanks & 73,
>
> Eric
> W3DQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 problem

2020-07-27 Thread Wes
I've had TMP connectors badly corroded in my K3. See: 
https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K3/album?id=37256


Wes  N7WS

On 7/27/2020 12:04 PM, Mike K8CN wrote:

Aye, Wes, indeed you did!  I wasn't thinking of LO drive levels when I first
read your post, but was thinking of common signal paths for TX and RX
through the T/R switch and no deeper into the signal processing chain.
Let's hope your and Martin's suggestion proves to be the true cause of
Per-Tore's issue.

Thanks, and 73,
Mike, K8CN


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Re: [Elecraft] SP3 intermittent A/B switch

2020-07-27 Thread IK4EWX
I had this problem a pair of years ago. 
The same problem, exactly, that could be solved only changing the switch and
the annex internal cabling.
You should require  it to Elecraft.
It need 20 minutes becouse the speaker must be largely disassembled for
changing this part.
Ian IK4EWX



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 problem

2020-07-27 Thread Mike K8CN
Aye, Wes, indeed you did!  I wasn't thinking of LO drive levels when I first
read your post, but was thinking of common signal paths for TX and RX
through the T/R switch and no deeper into the signal processing chain. 
Let's hope your and Martin's suggestion proves to be the true cause of
Per-Tore's issue.

Thanks, and 73,
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 problem

2020-07-27 Thread Wes

I thought I said that.

On 7/27/2020 10:34 AM, Mike K8CN wrote:

I agree with Martin's simpler hypothesis. The sudden change of behavior in
both TX and RX modes could well result from insufficient LO drive to either
the 1st or 2nd mixers.  Check that possibility before launching into
detailed testing of the PIN diode T/R switch.  It may be as simple as a
loose or corroded TMP connector.

Mike, K8CN



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 problem

2020-07-27 Thread Mike K8CN
I agree with Martin's simpler hypothesis. The sudden change of behavior in
both TX and RX modes could well result from insufficient LO drive to either
the 1st or 2nd mixers.  Check that possibility before launching into
detailed testing of the PIN diode T/R switch.  It may be as simple as a
loose or corroded TMP connector.

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 problem

2020-07-27 Thread Mike K8CN
Hi Per-Tore,

I don't know if there's an easy way to check the PIN diodes in the T/R
switch, especially since the SMD components of the switch are mostly on the
underside of the RF board.  Here's where I would start:

1) Find spots on the RF board (top side) where you can measure the control
voltages 7R and 7T.  Verify that these change in opposition to each other,
i.e. if 7R is high, 7T should be low and vice-versa, when changing from RX
mode to TX mode and back.

2) Presuming that both voltages 7R and 7T behave properly in switching from
RX to TX mode and back, I would measure the voltage on the drain of Q7, the
MOSFET switch, when 7R is high.  Assertion of 7R should pull the Q7 drain
voltage low, which causes sufficient current to pass through both PIN diodes
D26 and D27 to enable the RX signal to pass through, presuming there is not
a problem with PIN diode D25.

3) It is possible that the Q7 drain voltage could be pulled low if only one
of PIN diodes D26 or D27 functions properly and the other has failed open,
so test (2) is not conclusive.

4) If you have a scope with a 10X probe, I would check for presence of RF on
the anode of PIN diode D43 when in TX mode - any frequency on the VFO within
the scope bandwidth should suffice.  D43 must be forward-biased by the 7T
voltage in order for RF drive to be coupled to the low power (10 Watt) PA
assembly (Z2 on the block diagram).  The fact that you have not been able to
detect any transmitted power in TX mode whether the 100 watt PA is bypassed
or not may indicate that the low power PA is not receiving drive from the
mixer.  The 7T voltage is supplied to the anode of D43 via the low power PA
input connector, but it's unlikely that the simple path internal to the low
power PA board is at fault, i.e. 7T is not reaching D43.

I haven't had my K3 opened up for many years, nor have I experienced the
problem you described, so I can't easily point out where to access the
circuit points mentioned above.

There is another set of PIN diode switches around the mixer, but I would
start with those closest to the low power PA before going further back up
the signal processing chain.

73,
Mike, K8CN



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 problem

2020-07-27 Thread Martin Sole
Apologies, I just saw the serial number  7818, quite a bit newer so 
maybe not a failed capacitor, yet :)


Martin, H0ZED


On 27/7/63 23:32, Martin Sole wrote:

Hi,

What Serial number?

I have found on my own and a friends K3, both very low S/N around 300, 
that the KREF3 board has been the culprit for this exact problem.
First check the all the TMP cables to and from the KREF3 board and the 
synths. If all look good you should examine the K3REF board.


In both cases I have found 100nF (0.1uF) capacitors on this board to 
be essentially a low DC resistance. Look in particular at the 5 volt 
line. This supply affect IC6 the divide by 6 which provides both the 
second LO for the receivers and one input to the mixer for the TXIF1. 
Measure the resistance to ground from either side of L1 and L2 to 
figure out which capacitor is likely the cause of the problem.


Please keep the list posted on what you find.

Martin, HS0ZED



On 27/7/63 19:50, LA7NO wrote:

Hello,

The K3 suddenly stopped working.
One day all OK, the next day serious problems.

Serial no.: 07818.
It has ATU and 100 W PA installed, and also a P3 connected.
Both K3 and P3 were earlier well calibrated.
Supply: 14,5 VDC.

Symptoms:
- Rx seriously reduced sensitivity, only strong signals to be heard.
- No Tx output. Tuning not successful, no SWR indicated (only the 3
hyphens).
- Same on all bands.
- All displays, controls and menus apparently working normal.
- Mic-gain & ALC normal indication on SSB.

All menu settings seem to be OK.

Connected an XG3 and injected a -73 dBm signal.
It showed up on all bands with signal level about -100 dBm, so around 30 dB
attenuation.

Connected a LP-100A and a 50 ohm dummy load.
Whatever we tried, the LP-100A indicated zero power out on all bands.
Same on both Ant1 and Ant2.
Bypassed the ATU: no change.
Set power to < 10 W, effectively bypassing the PA: no change.

It is clearly something that is common for both Rx and Tx.
It is independent of the selected band.
Apparently not related to ATU or PA.

So, it could be some relay problem, or related to the SWR bridge or
LP-filters.

Hope you can give some helpful ideas on how to proceed.

Best regards & 73 from Norway,

Per-Tore / LA7NO




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 problem

2020-07-27 Thread Martin Sole

Hi,

What Serial number?

I have found on my own and a friends K3, both very low S/N around 300, 
that the KREF3 board has been the culprit for this exact problem.
First check the all the TMP cables to and from the KREF3 board and the 
synths. If all look good you should examine the K3REF board.


In both cases I have found 100nF (0.1uF) capacitors on this board to be 
essentially a low DC resistance. Look in particular at the 5 volt line. 
This supply affect IC6 the divide by 6 which provides both the second LO 
for the receivers and one input to the mixer for the TXIF1. Measure the 
resistance to ground from either side of L1 and L2 to figure out which 
capacitor is likely the cause of the problem.


Please keep the list posted on what you find.

Martin, HS0ZED



On 27/7/63 19:50, LA7NO wrote:

Hello,

The K3 suddenly stopped working.
One day all OK, the next day serious problems.

Serial no.: 07818.
It has ATU and 100 W PA installed, and also a P3 connected.
Both K3 and P3 were earlier well calibrated.
Supply: 14,5 VDC.

Symptoms:
- Rx seriously reduced sensitivity, only strong signals to be heard.
- No Tx output. Tuning not successful, no SWR indicated (only the 3
hyphens).
- Same on all bands.
- All displays, controls and menus apparently working normal.
- Mic-gain & ALC normal indication on SSB.

All menu settings seem to be OK.

Connected an XG3 and injected a -73 dBm signal.
It showed up on all bands with signal level about -100 dBm, so around 30 dB
attenuation.

Connected a LP-100A and a 50 ohm dummy load.
Whatever we tried, the LP-100A indicated zero power out on all bands.
Same on both Ant1 and Ant2.
Bypassed the ATU: no change.
Set power to < 10 W, effectively bypassing the PA: no change.

It is clearly something that is common for both Rx and Tx.
It is independent of the selected band.
Apparently not related to ATU or PA.

So, it could be some relay problem, or related to the SWR bridge or
LP-filters.

Hope you can give some helpful ideas on how to proceed.

Best regards & 73 from Norway,

Per-Tore / LA7NO




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Re: [Elecraft] Alpha magnetic loop antenna for sale

2020-07-27 Thread Foster Kartsotis
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On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 12:00 David Ferrington, M0XDF 
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Re: [Elecraft] Alpha magnetic loop antenna for sale

2020-07-27 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
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[Elecraft] Alpha magnetic loop antenna for sale

2020-07-27 Thread Foster Kartsotis
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[Elecraft] Kx3 and px3 for sale

2020-07-27 Thread Foster Kartsotis
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 problem

2020-07-27 Thread LA7NO
Thanks, Mike.

I guess this is the MA4P PIN diodes D26 & D27.
Is there an easy way to check those?

P-T




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 problem

2020-07-27 Thread Mike K8CN
You might check the PIN diode T/R switch.  The high attenuation in RX mode
and no output power even when the 100 W PA is bypassed suggest that one or
more of the PIN diodes in the T/R switch have failed "open."

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 problem

2020-07-27 Thread LA7NO
Yes, all bands are the same.
Received signals are normal in all respects, except signal strength.

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 problem

2020-07-27 Thread George

All Bands?
If receiving a strong station, is it on frequency?

73
George  AI4VZ

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From: LA7NO 
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 8:50 AM 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 problem 


Hello,

The K3 suddenly stopped working.
One day all OK, the next day serious problems.

Serial no.: 07818.
It has ATU and 100 W PA installed, and also a P3 connected.
Both K3 and P3 were earlier well calibrated.
Supply: 14,5 VDC.

Symptoms:
- Rx seriously reduced sensitivity, only strong signals to be heard.
- No Tx output. Tuning not successful, no SWR indicated (only the 3
hyphens).
- Same on all bands.
- All displays, controls and menus apparently working normal.
- Mic-gain & ALC normal indication on SSB.

All menu settings seem to be OK.

Connected an XG3 and injected a -73 dBm signal.
It showed up on all bands with signal level about -100 dBm, so around 30 dB
attenuation.

Connected a LP-100A and a 50 ohm dummy load.
Whatever we tried, the LP-100A indicated zero power out on all bands.
Same on both Ant1 and Ant2.
Bypassed the ATU: no change.
Set power to < 10 W, effectively bypassing the PA: no change.

It is clearly something that is common for both Rx and Tx.
It is independent of the selected band.
Apparently not related to ATU or PA.

So, it could be some relay problem, or related to the SWR bridge or
LP-filters.

Hope you can give some helpful ideas on how to proceed.

Best regards & 73 from Norway,

Per-Tore / LA7NO




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 problem

2020-07-27 Thread LA7NO
Yes, as I said, same problem on both Ant1 & Ant2.




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 problem

2020-07-27 Thread LA7NO
Would not that make the rx dead?
I can hear strong signals.
But the tx is giving no output.




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 problem

2020-07-27 Thread John Simmons

Did you check the antenna selection?


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-John NI0K
https://www.qrz.com/db/NI0K
LA7NO wrote on 7/27/2020 7:50 AM:

Hello,

The K3 suddenly stopped working.
One day all OK, the next day serious problems.

Serial no.: 07818.
It has ATU and 100 W PA installed, and also a P3 connected.
Both K3 and P3 were earlier well calibrated.
Supply: 14,5 VDC.

Symptoms:
- Rx seriously reduced sensitivity, only strong signals to be heard.
- No Tx output. Tuning not successful, no SWR indicated (only the 3
hyphens).
- Same on all bands.
- All displays, controls and menus apparently working normal.
- Mic-gain & ALC normal indication on SSB.

All menu settings seem to be OK.

Connected an XG3 and injected a -73 dBm signal.
It showed up on all bands with signal level about -100 dBm, so around 30 dB
attenuation.

Connected a LP-100A and a 50 ohm dummy load.
Whatever we tried, the LP-100A indicated zero power out on all bands.
Same on both Ant1 and Ant2.
Bypassed the ATU: no change.
Set power to < 10 W, effectively bypassing the PA: no change.

It is clearly something that is common for both Rx and Tx.
It is independent of the selected band.
Apparently not related to ATU or PA.

So, it could be some relay problem, or related to the SWR bridge or
LP-filters.

Hope you can give some helpful ideas on how to proceed.

Best regards & 73 from Norway,

Per-Tore / LA7NO




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 problem

2020-07-27 Thread Wes

May be a LO problem.  Check all of the TMP cables.

Wes  N7WS



On 7/27/2020 5:50 AM, LA7NO wrote:

Hello,

The K3 suddenly stopped working.
One day all OK, the next day serious problems.

Serial no.: 07818.
It has ATU and 100 W PA installed, and also a P3 connected.
Both K3 and P3 were earlier well calibrated.
Supply: 14,5 VDC.

Symptoms:
- Rx seriously reduced sensitivity, only strong signals to be heard.
- No Tx output. Tuning not successful, no SWR indicated (only the 3
hyphens).
- Same on all bands.
- All displays, controls and menus apparently working normal.
- Mic-gain & ALC normal indication on SSB.

All menu settings seem to be OK.

Connected an XG3 and injected a -73 dBm signal.
It showed up on all bands with signal level about -100 dBm, so around 30 dB
attenuation.

Connected a LP-100A and a 50 ohm dummy load.
Whatever we tried, the LP-100A indicated zero power out on all bands.
Same on both Ant1 and Ant2.
Bypassed the ATU: no change.
Set power to < 10 W, effectively bypassing the PA: no change.

It is clearly something that is common for both Rx and Tx.
It is independent of the selected band.
Apparently not related to ATU or PA.

So, it could be some relay problem, or related to the SWR bridge or
LP-filters.

Hope you can give some helpful ideas on how to proceed.

Best regards & 73 from Norway,

Per-Tore / LA7NO




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[Elecraft] Elecraft K3 problem

2020-07-27 Thread LA7NO
Hello,

The K3 suddenly stopped working.
One day all OK, the next day serious problems.

Serial no.: 07818.
It has ATU and 100 W PA installed, and also a P3 connected.
Both K3 and P3 were earlier well calibrated.
Supply: 14,5 VDC.

Symptoms:
- Rx seriously reduced sensitivity, only strong signals to be heard.
- No Tx output. Tuning not successful, no SWR indicated (only the 3
hyphens).
- Same on all bands.
- All displays, controls and menus apparently working normal.
- Mic-gain & ALC normal indication on SSB.

All menu settings seem to be OK.

Connected an XG3 and injected a -73 dBm signal.
It showed up on all bands with signal level about -100 dBm, so around 30 dB
attenuation.

Connected a LP-100A and a 50 ohm dummy load.
Whatever we tried, the LP-100A indicated zero power out on all bands.
Same on both Ant1 and Ant2.
Bypassed the ATU: no change.
Set power to < 10 W, effectively bypassing the PA: no change.

It is clearly something that is common for both Rx and Tx.
It is independent of the selected band.
Apparently not related to ATU or PA.

So, it could be some relay problem, or related to the SWR bridge or
LP-filters.

Hope you can give some helpful ideas on how to proceed.

Best regards & 73 from Norway,

Per-Tore / LA7NO




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Re: [Elecraft] Pelican case for K3?

2020-07-27 Thread john



AE9K has Pelican case information on his website that you may find helpful:
http://www.ae9k.com/home/elecraft-k-line/transport

John KK9A


eric norris WD6DBM wrote:

Does anybody know what model Pelican case is the best fit for a K3?  Thanks!

73, Eric WD6DBM

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[Elecraft] Audio output routing confusion

2020-07-27 Thread Eric Rosenberg
After 6 months off the air, I find myself confused by the K3's audio 
output choices.


While I'm able to hear the Main A VFO and Sub RX VFO through my one 
speaker, I can't figure out how to (or if) hear both the Main RX A and B 
VFOs through that speaker.


Is there a way to configure this, or do I need a second speaker or must 
I use headphones?


Thanks & 73,

Eric
W3DQ

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