[Elecraft] K3S S/N 11764 (3 years old) for sale
Price drop: $3,500 + shipping. 73, Bill WE5P > My K3S S/N 11764 has been replaced with K4 S/N 694 and is for sale. It went > on the air 3/17/2019 after purchasing new (invoiced on 12/08/2018). > It includes: > > KAT3A Antenna Tuner > KTCXO3-1 TCXO > KDVR3 Digital Voice Recorder > Roofing Filters: > 2.8 KHz > 2.1 KHz > 400 HZ > 200 Hz > Matching filters in KRX3A subreceiver > including K3FLTMATCH to hand match 200 Hz filters to within 40Hz. > MH4 hand mic > E740243 Fred Cady’s K3S and P3 book > > Original Price: $5612.20 > > I just received unit back from Elecraft service on 3/14 (RSA #11357). R19 in > the KPA3A was replaced and all updates were added bring it up to present > configuration and tested and aligned to factory spec. I had it on the air > for about a month until the K4 arrived on 4/13. > Documentation on the invoice and repair report and answers to all questions > available to any serious buyer. > > Condition: as is. Yes I know that everyone this list is of high moral > character but I get paranoid about parts swappers 😊. > > Asking $3750 + shipping. Preferred method of payment: via Paypal “pay as a > friend or family”. Cashiers check will also be fine. Contact me at my QRZ > email address. > > 73, > Bill WE5P Comfortably Numb __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KX2: Transmit Power 10m Band
Elecraft KX2: If I set the transmit power to 10W on the 10m band, it seems that the output power is 0W if I try to send. At least the RF power display does not display anything. Same with 9.8W. If I set the value to 9.6W (or lower) then everything is back to normal. This does only happen on 10m, all other bands are fine with the 10W power setting. Is this a known bug or is something wrong on my side? Thanks, Michael __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KX2: Transmit Power 10m Band
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[Elecraft] Sherwood Receiver Tests
Reading the Sherwood tests today I noticed the K4D tested ranked below the K and K3s and I started to look at the data published and I am still a little unsure of why it scores lower having assumed it would be significantly better in performance over the K3 and K3s. Perhaps somebody could point out to me if I am not seeing what is important. I believe in if I can hear them, I can work them but like most folk I like a quiet noise floor and a comfy buffer of audio over noise. My current thinking is hold onto my K3 until the K4 is improved as my upgraded #679 has served me so well and is the only transceiver I have ever loved and kept. It's not going anywhere soon hi hi. Gary VK1ZZ/K3NHL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sherwood Receiver Tests
Can't speak to your current or future thinking Gary, but... The K3 and K4 [and some other non-Elecraft radios too] are near the physical limits for most of what we consider important today. Not going to get much better because of that, and who's at the top will depend for some part on the quality of the test equipment, the quality of the tester, and the roll of the dice. Cryogenic cooled front ends next? The odds of someone coming up with a dramatically, no fooling, real advancement in ham receiver performance are lowish, at least in my likely lifetime ... and, I live in Nevada and odds are an important part of our state income. [;=) For now, I've decided to keep my K2 and K3, they seem to be about as good as it gets, and I know how to work them. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County Gary Gregory wrote on 4/28/2022 6:41 PM: Reading the Sherwood tests today I noticed the K4D tested ranked below the K and K3s and I started to look at the data published and I am still a little unsure of why it scores lower having assumed it would be significantly better in performance over the K3 and K3s. Perhaps somebody could point out to me if I am not seeing what is important. I believe in if I can hear them, I can work them but like most folk I like a quiet noise floor and a comfy buffer of audio over noise. My current thinking is hold onto my K3 until the K4 is improved as my upgraded #679 has served me so well and is the only transceiver I have ever loved and kept. It's not going anywhere soon hi hi. Gary VK1ZZ/K3NHL -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sherwood Receiver Tests
I believe the K4HD is the model that is designed to be near the top of the chart. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Apr 28, 2022, at 6:41 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > Reading the Sherwood tests today I noticed the K4D tested ranked below the > K and K3s and I started to look at the data published and I am still a > little unsure of why it scores lower having assumed it would be > significantly better in performance over the K3 and K3s. > > Perhaps somebody could point out to me if I am not seeing what is > important. > > I believe in if I can hear them, I can work them but like most folk I like > a quiet noise floor and a comfy buffer of audio over noise. > > My current thinking is hold onto my K3 until the K4 is improved as my > upgraded #679 has served me so well and is the only transceiver I have ever > loved and kept. It's not going anywhere soon hi hi. > > Gary > VK1ZZ/K3NHL > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sherwood Receiver Tests
Rob has indicated that any of the top radios are fine. Chose the radio for the bells and whistles you want. The difference between them is not worth worrying about. Pick the radio that you like to operate. W0MU On 4/28/2022 8:13 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: I believe the K4HD is the model that is designed to be near the top of the chart. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) On Apr 28, 2022, at 6:41 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: Reading the Sherwood tests today I noticed the K4D tested ranked below the K and K3s and I started to look at the data published and I am still a little unsure of why it scores lower having assumed it would be significantly better in performance over the K3 and K3s. Perhaps somebody could point out to me if I am not seeing what is important. I believe in if I can hear them, I can work them but like most folk I like a quiet noise floor and a comfy buffer of audio over noise. My current thinking is hold onto my K3 until the K4 is improved as my upgraded #679 has served me so well and is the only transceiver I have ever loved and kept. It's not going anywhere soon hi hi. Gary VK1ZZ/K3NHL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w...@w0mu.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Sherwood Receiver Tests
Hi I am no expert but as far as I can tell any of the top radios with narrow dynamic range above 92 db would be fine in most environments. The k4d was measured at 101. A few years ago that dynamic range would have been considered fantastic. I notice that the k3s is at 106. Who is going to notice that difference. The ergonomics on the k4d is much better once you get used to it. Everything you need to know while operating is plainly visible. For example I find I like having a real time UTC clock and date kept accurately automatically. It is also nice to see the code speed and power levels readily visible. etc Richard __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sherwood Receiver Tests
The table is sorted on “Narrow Spaced Dynamic Range” which is only one measure of “best”. To get a better understanding of the overall picture, read through/view some of Rob’s presentations on his website. Very enlightening. 73, Brian, K0DTJ > On Apr 28, 2022, at 18:44, Gary Gregory wrote: > > Reading the Sherwood tests today I noticed the K4D tested ranked below the > K and K3s and I started to look at the data published and I am still a > little unsure of why it scores lower having assumed it would be > significantly better in performance over the K3 and K3s. > > Perhaps somebody could point out to me if I am not seeing what is > important. > > I believe in if I can hear them, I can work them but like most folk I like > a quiet noise floor and a comfy buffer of audio over noise. > > My current thinking is hold onto my K3 until the K4 is improved as my > upgraded #679 has served me so well and is the only transceiver I have ever > loved and kept. It's not going anywhere soon hi hi. > > Gary > VK1ZZ/K3NHL > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to huntin...@coastside.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sherwood Receiver Tests
From what I’ve heard about the K4D, its advantages over the K3 are in areas that probably aren’t tested in Sherwood’s receiver tests. For example: I have heard people say the RX audio is cleaner. People say the UI is better. There are more antenna input/output connections. The voice compression just released gets rave reviews. People like the noise reduction better. There’s more to a radio than just the RX, although if the RX isn’t good, you probably should look at another radio. (Or why I don’t use the Icom 706MII in my car very often.) 73 Bill AE6JV > On Apr 28, 2022, at 21:41, Gary Gregory wrote: > > Reading the Sherwood tests today I noticed the K4D tested ranked below the > K and K3s and I started to look at the data published and I am still a > little unsure of why it scores lower having assumed it would be > significantly better in performance over the K3 and K3s. > > Perhaps somebody could point out to me if I am not seeing what is > important. > > I believe in if I can hear them, I can work them but like most folk I like > a quiet noise floor and a comfy buffer of audio over noise. > > My current thinking is hold onto my K3 until the K4 is improved as my > upgraded #679 has served me so well and is the only transceiver I have ever > loved and kept. It's not going anywhere soon hi hi. > > Gary > VK1ZZ/K3NHL > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to fra...@pwpconsult.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Sherwood Receiver Tests
Gary, There are many factors as important as the 2 kHz dynamic range that Rob sorts his table on. Even Rob has said many times, he has to sort on something so that's the parameter. I happen to own the first sample K3S that Rob tested. I also own a TS-890 (and a K3). Rob tested an '890 but it wasn't mine. He does use one though. If you compare the two radios based on almost any other parameter, the Kenwood "wins." In fact the Kenwood is better in almost any other electrical aspect than any other radio on the chart except for the 2 kHz DR, where there are eight "better" radios. Ergonomically there is no comparison, likewise the Kenwood has better audio and reliability. The K3S has much better noise blanking and reduction, less front panel clutter with the mic and headphone jacks available on the rear panel. I favor the AFSK RTTY of the K3S over the FSK in the Kenwood, but pragmatically speaking they are equal. If you're dependent upon internal coding and decoding of CW/RTTY/PSK then the larger display of the Kenwood is a winner. Personally, I think these things are gimmicks, a waste of the programmer's time and I don't use them. My radios sit side-by-side on the desk. So which one do I use? The Kenwood. I suppose that a K4 will have features comparable to or even better than the Kenwood but I could buy an '890 a year and a half ago and I still can't buy a K4. Wes N7WS On 4/28/2022 6:41 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: Reading the Sherwood tests today I noticed the K4D tested ranked below the K and K3s and I started to look at the data published and I am still a little unsure of why it scores lower having assumed it would be significantly better in performance over the K3 and K3s. Perhaps somebody could point out to me if I am not seeing what is important. I believe in if I can hear them, I can work them but like most folk I like a quiet noise floor and a comfy buffer of audio over noise. My current thinking is hold onto my K3 until the K4 is improved as my upgraded #679 has served me so well and is the only transceiver I have ever loved and kept. It's not going anywhere soon hi hi. Gary VK1ZZ/K3NHL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wes_n...@triconet.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX2: Transmit Power 10m Band
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