[Elecraft] STATIONMASTER, K3, P3, AND PC INTERCONNECTION

2023-12-17 Thread greg best
I am confused about the connection and communication between my PC and my 
MicroHam stationmaster (SM), K3, P3 and hope that someone can help clear this 
up.

 

I just modified my K3 to upgrade it to the KIO3B digital I/O board.  Before 
upgrading to the KIO3B,  I had used a custom RS232 cable to the CAT port on the 
and the entire system worked fine using DXLabs, or N1MM as the “logger” 
program.  To reconfigure the cables and connect them in the right order, I 
consulted the SM website and support page which indicates the connection flow 
was from the PC to the SM (all via USB), then to the P3, then to the K3.  To 
implement this, I connected the PC to SM via USB, then used the E980296 
“Y-Cable”, provided by Elecraft, and connected the RS-232 connectors to the 
back of the P3 (ensuring the cables matched the configuration shown in the 
KIO3B upgrade kit), and the other end with “RJ” connector to the K3. When I 
powered this system up, the K3 firmware recognized the KIO3-B board properly.  
However,  this configuration does not work. Upon starting the Router program, 
the Tab indicating the status of the SM shows the usual green check mark.  
Moving to the port tab, the Router program indicates the COM port is open (one 
arrow green) and is sending data but it is not receiving anything back (red 
arrow is not present) from the radio.  

 

Have I configured the system correctly?  BTW No changes were made to the inside 
of the SM. 

 

I had used COM Port 7 in my previous configuration and have not changed that 
either.

 

73’s,

Greg N9GB

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[Elecraft] Elecraft 80M SSB Net Report

2023-12-17 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
3806 kHz (We met on 3803 kHz this evening), 9PM ET Sunday (0200Z 
Monday).


Thanks to the following check ins (w) and relays (rel):

   Call   State Radio/Amp   Name
1  N8SBE  MIK4D/KPA500  Dave (w),(op)
2  K8NU   OHK4D/KPA1500 Carl (w)
3  W9PCS  WIK4D/KPA500  Paul (w)
4  WB9JNZ ILFTdx101d/KPA1500Eric (rel),(w)
5  K1NW   RIK4D/KPA500  Brian (w)
6  AC3CT  PAFT-991A Tim (w)
7  W8KEN  OHK4D/KPA1500 Ken (w)
8  WN9A   INK4D/KPA1500 Larry (w)
9  K5WC   ARK4D/Mercury John (w)
10 KE8TRL MIIC-7300 Blaine (w)
11 WM6P   GAK4D/KPA1500 Steve (w)
12 K1DIH  CTK4D/Tokyo Hi-Power  Brian (w)
13 K2RIG  NJK4/Mercury III  Bill (w)
14 KF4BY  SCK3/Alpha 74AStan (w)
15 WW4JF  TNK3s/KPA500 E F PJOHN (w)
16 K5WA   TXK4D/Alpha 2000A Bob (w)

We had a total of 16 check ins this week (including the NCS). Signals 
were good all around.  Thanks to Eric, WB9JNZ for the relay assist this 
evening.  80M was in good condition.   Very nice hearing from the new 
check ins and hope to see all of you again.  The net concluded at 9:39 
PM ET.


In spite of the recent frequency change, the turnout continues to be 
very encouraging. We ended up on 3803 kHz tonight at Carl's K8NU 
suggestion/observation that 3803 cleared up just before 9pm ET last 
week, and it appeared to do so again this week. We did hear another weak 
(to us) conversation that started to get stronger later in the net, so 
if 80M continues to improve we may not be able to hold 3803, either. 
Time will tell.


I'll continue to monitor adjacent frequencies to see if we can find 
another one close by that will work better for everyone.  In the 
meantime we will continue to attempt to meet on 3806 kHz.  If you go to 
https://netlogger.org at the net starting time, you should see the 
frequency we are using that evening.


Looking ahead, we will NOT meet on Christmas Eve or New Year's eve, so 
this was the last 80M Elecraft SSB Net of this year.


Happy Holidays and see you next year!

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report

2023-12-17 Thread kevin

Good Evening,

   Twenty meters was full of ongoing QSOs when I searched for a 
frequency.  Thank you for finding me; I'm sure propagation assisted you 
all.  Conditions were better than I had hoped for. Noise was low on 
twenty meters and not much higher on forty meters.  QSB was moderate on 
twenty but signals were strong enough to limit any problems.  Forty 
meters had just a little more, some of it fast.  Sunset had passed me 
but the ionosphere had not yet settled down.



  On 14049.5 kHz at 2300z:

W0CZ - Ken - ND

K0DTJ - Brian - CA

K6XK - Roy - IA

W8OV - Dave - TX

NO8V - John - MI

K4JPN - Steve - GA

AB9V - Mike - IN


  On 7047.5 kHz at 0100z:

W0CZ - Ken - ND

K0DTJ - Brian - CA

WM5F - Dwight - ID

K9FN - Dave - IN


Until next week 73,

   Kevin.  KD5ONS




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sign of weakness, and sincerity is always subject to proof. Let us never 
negotiate out of fear.  But let us never fear to negotiate.”





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[Elecraft] For Sale K-POD $350 plus shipping. New in box. Selling due to QTH relocation. Contact off list for questions, photos, shipping, pickup/delivery, phone call, etc. Thank you. 73, Jim WI6X

2023-12-17 Thread WI6X Jim
For Sale K-POD $350 plus shipping. New in box.
Selling due to QTH relocation.
Contact off list for questions, photos, shipping, pickup/delivery, phone call, 
etc.  
Thank you.
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[Elecraft] For Sale K-POD $350 plus shipping. New in box. Selling due to QTH relocation. Contact off list for questions, photos, shipping, pickup/delivery, phone call, etc. Thank you. 73, Jim WI6X

2023-12-17 Thread James Dahl
For Sale K-POD $350 plus shipping. New in box. 
Selling due to QTH relocation.
Contact off list for questions, photos, shipping, pickup/delivery, phone call, 
etc.  
Thank you. 
73, 
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[Elecraft] For Sale K4D with KAT4 ATU asking $5, 700 plus shipping. For Sale K4D with KAT4 Auto-Tuner asking $5, 700 plus shipping. Excellent condition. Original owner. Original shipping boxes. Sellin

2023-12-17 Thread WI6X Jim
For Sale K4D with KAT4 Auto-Tuner asking $5,700 plus shipping.
Excellent condition.
Original owner.
Original shipping boxes.
Selling due to QTH relocation.
Contact off list for questions, photos, shipping, pickup/delivery, phone call, 
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Jim WI6X
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[Elecraft] For Sale KPA1500 asking $6, 700 plus shipping. New in 2023. Excellent condition. Original owner. Original shipping boxes. Selling due to QTH relocation. Contact off list for questions, phot

2023-12-17 Thread James Dahl
For Sale KPA1500 asking $6,700 plus shipping.
New in 2023.
Excellent condition.
Original owner.
Original shipping boxes.
Selling due to QTH relocation.
Contact off list for questions, photos, shipping, pickup/delivery, phone call, 
etc.
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[Elecraft] For Sale PX3-K

2023-12-17 Thread Mike Maloney
I have complete PX3-K as packaged by Elecraft for sale.  Panadapter kit for the 
KX3.   Asking $560 ppd CONUS.    Contact off list.
73, Mike AC5P
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Re: [Elecraft] P3

2023-12-17 Thread Jim Brown

On 12/17/2023 1:12 PM, Brian Hunt wrote:

I’ve discovered that it’s easier to see a very weak signal on the
waterfall than in the amplitude plot. Setting the SVGA screen for 25%
spectrum and 75% waterfall gives lots of space to see dim traces. You
may have to adjust the threshold a bit.


YES! The settings I've described will optimize that visibility in the 
waterfall. Increasing the time in the waterfall to the max, especially 
with the SVGA (about 2 minutes), is great help in finding empty spots to 
call CQ in a contest, and to find running (CQing) stations to work.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] P3

2023-12-17 Thread Brian Hunt
Hi Jim,
I’ve discovered that it’s easier to see a very weak signal on the waterfall 
than in the amplitude plot. Setting the SVGA screen for 25% spectrum and 75% 
waterfall gives lots of space to see dim traces. You may have to adjust the 
threshold a bit. 

73,
Brian, K0DTJ

> On Dec 17, 2023, at 12:13, Fred Jensen  wrote:
> 
> Can't speak to the K3s, but the K3 required a modification to the 1st IF [8 
> MHz] gain for my P3 to show weaker signals.  It was just a resistor change.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
> 
> Jim Murray via Elecraft wrote on 12/17/2023 12:05 PM:
>> Hello all,  Having acquired a fully loaded K3s fairly recently I am behind 
>> the curve of those fortunate enough to have a K4.  Its taken several weeks 
>> to get a decent handle on the K3s and now on to the P3.  I have all the 
>> manuals including Fred Cadys K3s and P3.  I find the K3s to be excellent and 
>> pretty remarkable compared to the many other transceivers I've owned over 
>> nearly 50 years.  The P3 has the vga board and is connected up.  All is well 
>> Except;  weak signals do not show up on the P3.  I can hear a rather weak 
>> signal but nothing at that point on the P3.  My thought is at this point the 
>> P3 is not doing me much good looking for a weak dx signal.  I have to think 
>> I have something not set up right etc..  Any help on what I'm missing would 
>> be appreciated.Thanks,Jimk2hn
>> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3

2023-12-17 Thread Jim Brown

On 12/17/2023 12:05 PM, Jim Murray via Elecraft wrote:

  My thought is at this point the P3 is not doing me much good looking
for a weak dx signal.  I have to think I have something not set up right
  etc..


What is required is careful (and ongoing) adjustment of P3 controls. For 
everyday operation, I set the display range to 32 dB, set Averaging to 
max (20), and adjust the noise floor to the bottom of the display. The 
first two adjustments are more or less set and forget; the noise floor 
will change from day to day and from band to band. On CW and RTTY, I 
typically use display widths of 50 to 100 kHz, or whatever covers the 
activity; on SSB, I usually set it to the 200 kHz max. In both cases, 
setting the center so that I'm seeing that activity.


What Averaging does is cause random noise to cancel, but causing signals 
to be reinforced. Averaging is the power tool that lets us see weak 
signals. Averaging also emphasizes electronic noise, that's acting like 
miniature radio transmitters. It's also important to set the P3 so that 
the frequency limits of the display remain fixed as we tune the band; if 
we set it to always be centered, averaging will re-start as we tune, 
rendering it useless.


If I'm going for very weak signals on a quiet band, I'll change that 32 
dB display range to 24 dB; in a contest, with lots of big signals, to 42 
dB.


I do NOT recommend averaging of the waterfall itself.

These applications notes on different topics include P3 and P3/SVGA 
screen grabs. The first two are "on-the-air;" the third was done in my 
shack, looking at the bandwidth of various rigs and amps. If you know 
what you're doing, the P3 and P3/SVGA are very good test instruments, 
that are with respect to frequency resolution, far superior to HP 
spectrum analyzers!


http://k9yc.com/K6XXAmpTalk.pdf

http://k9yc.com/KillingReceiveNoise.pdf

http://k9yc.com/P3_Spectrum_Measurements.pdf

73, Jim K9YC






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Re: [Elecraft] P3

2023-12-17 Thread Fred Jensen
Can't speak to the K3s, but the K3 required a modification to the 1st IF 
[8 MHz] gain for my P3 to show weaker signals.  It was just a resistor 
change.


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

Jim Murray via Elecraft wrote on 12/17/2023 12:05 PM:

Hello all,  Having acquired a fully loaded K3s fairly recently I am behind the 
curve of those fortunate enough to have a K4.  Its taken several weeks to get a 
decent handle on the K3s and now on to the P3.  I have all the manuals 
including Fred Cadys K3s and P3.  I find the K3s to be excellent and pretty 
remarkable compared to the many other transceivers I've owned over nearly 50 
years.  The P3 has the vga board and is connected up.  All is well Except;  
weak signals do not show up on the P3.  I can hear a rather weak signal but 
nothing at that point on the P3.  My thought is at this point the P3 is not 
doing me much good looking for a weak dx signal.  I have to think I have 
something not set up right etc..  Any help on what I'm missing would be 
appreciated.Thanks,Jimk2hn





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[Elecraft] P3

2023-12-17 Thread Jim Murray via Elecraft
Hello all,  Having acquired a fully loaded K3s fairly recently I am behind the 
curve of those fortunate enough to have a K4.  Its taken several weeks to get a 
decent handle on the K3s and now on to the P3.  I have all the manuals 
including Fred Cadys K3s and P3.  I find the K3s to be excellent and pretty 
remarkable compared to the many other transceivers I've owned over nearly 50 
years.  The P3 has the vga board and is connected up.  All is well Except;  
weak signals do not show up on the P3.  I can hear a rather weak signal but 
nothing at that point on the P3.  My thought is at this point the P3 is not 
doing me much good looking for a weak dx signal.  I have to think I have 
something not set up right etc..  Any help on what I'm missing would be 
appreciated.Thanks,Jimk2hn 
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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-AX/KX/KH] Elecraft 80M SSB Net Announcement

2023-12-17 Thread Dave New, N8SBE




David,

Point taken.  We did meet below 3.8 MHz, but there were complaints from 
US amateurs that we were excluding General class amateurs stateside.  
Considering that I've never heard anyone trying to check in from GB when 
we were lower in frequency, I wouldn't expect to see any that early in 
the evening US-time, although in the winter it is almost 3 hours past 
sunset for the Midwest USA.


Sorry that you feel excluded.  I would suggest trying the 20M net on 
14.303.5 at 1800 UTC every Sunday.  K1NW who is in Rhode Island, 
frequently turns his antenna towards GB to pick up a station that checks 
in from there regularly.


Hope to hear you on the 20M net.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

On 2023-12-17 13:34, David Pratt wrote:

It might be best to refer it as a 75m net, Dave. 3806 kHz excludes 
folks in the rest of the world where the band is 3.5 to 3.8 MHz.


73 de David G4DMP

David Pratt on a Huawei phone.

On 17 Dec 2023 17:54, "Dave New, N8SBE"  wrote:


Please join us on 3806kHz (NOTE THE NEW FREQUENCY WHICH MOVES US INTO
THE GENERAL CLASS BAND)plus or minus QRM (see the Netlogger 
discussion,

below), 9PM ET Sunday (0200Z Monday). Note that the net stays on the
same local time, when we switch back and forth to/from Daylight time, 
so

the UTC time changes, but not the local time.

Now that we have moved into Standard time and have shorter daylight
hours, 80M should be stronger now during the winter.

Your net control this week will be Dave, N8SBE.

I'm using Netlogger, so if you go to netlogger.org and look for the 
80M

Elecraft SSB Net, you will be able to see the exact frequency we've
settled on for the evening.

Hope to see you this evening on the net.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE


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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-AX/KX/KH] Elecraft 80M SSB Net Announcement

2023-12-17 Thread David Pratt


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[Elecraft] Elecraft 80M SSB Net Announcement

2023-12-17 Thread Dave New, N8SBE
Please join us on 3806kHz (NOTE THE NEW FREQUENCY WHICH MOVES US INTO 
THE GENERAL CLASS BAND)plus or minus QRM (see the Netlogger discussion, 
below), 9PM ET Sunday (0200Z Monday). Note that the net stays on the 
same local time, when we switch back and forth to/from Daylight time, so 
the UTC time changes, but not the local time.


Now that we have moved into Standard time and have shorter daylight 
hours, 80M should be stronger now during the winter.


Your net control this week will be Dave, N8SBE.

I'm using Netlogger, so if you go to netlogger.org and look for the 80M 
Elecraft SSB Net, you will be able to see the exact frequency we've 
settled on for the evening.


Hope to see you this evening on the net.

73,

-- Dave, N8SBE
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[Elecraft] merry chrsitmas and happy new year to all

2023-12-17 Thread jackie Green
merry christmas and new year to all i hope ya have blessed week as well i
been on 60 on my kx2 alot now for my frist time late tgis years lots of fun

73 to all
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Re: [Elecraft] User's Dilemma

2023-12-17 Thread John Canfield
Early in my career at SW Bell (then management with AT Info Systems) I 
was a Teletype tech. We worked on Model 28, 33, 35, 40, 3274 bisync 
terminals, printers, tape punch, readers and tape printers. Classes on 
each model were five days a week, eight hours a day for three weeks. It 
took me at least a year to become proficient on most models. After two 
years I could pull a mainshaft on a Model 28/35 to replace clutch parts 
and have it back in service in 20 minutes. At that point as a TTY tech I 
was called on and traveled to assist others in a difficult repairs.


My standard to become up to speed (maybe 90%) is about six months for 
the many jobs I had at AT


Sidebar: The model 33s were the 'economy' models. Adjustments were made 
by bending various parts, arms, levers, etc. From a technician point of 
view they were junk.


John WB5THT

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Re: [Elecraft] User's Dilemma
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Send it to Watsonville for the best service. Let me give you a story of
my personal experience.

When I started with K2 repairs, I had Gary Surrency to bounce any
difficult situations off of.? Gary was kind enough to lead me 'by the
hand' through the initial process.? I was on the east coast area working
remotely with both Gary (Arizona) and Watsonville. After about 6 months,
Gary asked me why I only asked about difficult questions, and I told him
that the easy ones I had already solved.

Go on to my 'retirement' from repairs.? Dave Van Wallaghen W8FGU took
over.? Dave already had experience with the legacy gear that I was
working on. Still, it took about 6 months before Dave was fully
on-board, and after almost 2 years, he still asks about some of the
'really strange stuff' that he encounters, and I may or may not be able
to offer any additional information..

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Re: [Elecraft] User's Dilemma

2023-12-17 Thread Gerry leary via Elecraft
Hello Don, I was a car mechanic for about 40 years before I became a coffee 
roaster. I ran my own shop for about 20 years. It was the same way in the 
automotive industry, it took me a while to train new people. Even if they were 
experienced mechanics, although the experienced ones were much easier to train 
than the apprentices. My problem was in my shop I fixed whatever came by. So 
people had to learn all of the older cars. Good explanation, I have sent my KX 
three to Ella craft once for repairs. I don’t necessarily abuse it, but I’m 
bounced around a lot and take it a lot of places. It’s been the best 
transceiver I’ve ever had, and Ella craft has been the best company I’ve ever 
worked with on any  Sort of project. Whether radios or other things that may 
need repair or upkeep. 
Gerry Leary Wb6ivf

On Dec 16, 2023, at 6:51 PM, W3FPR  wrote:

Send it to Watsonville for the best service. Let me give you a story of my 
personal experience.

When I started with K2 repairs, I had Gary Surrency to bounce any difficult 
situations off of.  Gary was kind enough to lead me 'by the hand' through the 
initial process.  I was on the east coast area working remotely with both Gary 
(Arizona) and Watsonville. After about 6 months, Gary asked me why I only asked 
about difficult questions, and I told him that the easy ones I had already 
solved.

Go on to my 'retirement' from repairs.  Dave Van Wallaghen W8FGU took over.  
Dave already had experience with the legacy gear that I was working on. Still, 
it took about 6 months before Dave was fully on-board, and after almost 2 
years, he still asks about some of the 'really strange stuff' that he 
encounters, and I may or may not be able to offer any additional information..

Bottom line is that it takes about 6 months to a year before a good technician 
can be so familiar with the gear that he is working on to be proficient on his 
own.  He still needs some support that can only come from the designers or 
those long experienced with the product.

Training new techs can be more efficient in Watsonville than in remote 
locations.  Keith is the current expert there (as well as Vic). and support 
from them can be as quick as walking over to their 'office'.  So, yes, it takes 
a bit more postage to ship to Watsonville, but that is where the expertise to 
properly do the K3, Kx2, Kx3, and K4 repair resides.  If you are talking about 
the legacy gear (K1, KX1, K2), then that expertise is currently in Michigan.  
We have shown that remote work works, but for other than the legacy gear, the 
best place is still Watsonville, CA.

For the best service, accept the delays that are inevitable.  It would be nice 
to turn a repair in a day or two from receipt, but from personal experience, 
when I had 14 repairs lined up, I was forced to take them on a first-in, first 
out basis.  If I had a difficult repair in-line, it slowed down my 
expectations.  When the number got over 10, I became anxious and tried to get 
them out as soon as possible, but not compromising my goal of making all 
repairs complete and tested when done.

73 and have a great Christmas (0r Happy Holidays if you prefer),
Don W3FPR



On 12/15/2023 5:46 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
> Sorry, Adrian - I hear you but I am not willing to accept that location 
> trumps everything.  Sure it costs money to train new techs, and I'm sure it's 
> hard to recruit them, but what is the alternative? Continue to be without a 
> very expensive and essential piece of equipment for weeks/months?
> 
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> 
> On 12/15/2023 3:41 PM, KJ7SOY wrote:
>> Pete:
>> 
>> I can understand your frustrations. However I think your sentiment that “the 
>> current situation needs to be addressed, either in Watsonville or otherwise” 
>> doesn’t recognize current global business realities.
>> 
>> As background, I lived in Monterey, just down the road from Watsonville, for 
>> three years (2013-2016) and I know the area well. Watsonville has a 
>> population of about 50,000 and the primary industry (about 80% of the 
>> business in the area) is agriculture. People won’t move to small/medium 
>> sized agricultural communities because there isn’t a lot there for them, so 
>> importing skilled staff isn’t feasible. Domestically there aren’t skilled 
>> persons around who could be hired to work on the radios because again it’s 
>> primarily an agricultural community.
>> 
>> The company itself isn’t large, I understand, and they’re going as fast as 
>> they can all the time. With the current global labor shortage it’s close to 
>> impossible to hire people in ANY industry, and electronics fabrication and 
>> repair is no exception.
>> 
>> So basically what you’re saying is the company should buck the global trend 
>> and import or train staff who are willing to move to a small agricultural 
>> community in north central California to work on skilled electronics repair. 
>> It just won’t happen. There IS no way to “address the situation”. This