Re: [Elecraft] K2/100 RS232 trouble

[Andy McMullin via Elecraft]

Bo,

You are using the special RS232 cable aren’t you? You must connect with a cable 
matching the special pinout first. If you try a straight connection it will 
fail.

Try the K2 and its cable into an interface unit such as the Modular Technology 
interfaker (like https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224519972647 
) or something smaller such as 
https://cpc.farnell.com/pro-signal/t-mb460p/rs232-check-tester/dp/CS11237?ost=pro+signal+t-mb460
 

 

Check you have enabled the necessary handshake pins, and are receiving the same 
from the USB interface.

Hope this helps
Andy


> On 10 Sep 2021, at 12:38,   
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> 
> 
> RS232 does not work to K2 / 100 via usb.
> 
> Have tested various rs232 / usb adapters, also brand new.
> 
> The correct values ​​are entered in the computer for the port.
> 
> All measured values ​​of U4 MAX1406 are according to Table 4 IC DC voltage 
> chart.
> 
> Has also changed U4 to a new one.
> 
> Is it the control board on K2 that is faulty?
> 
> How do I investigate this? 
> 
> SM6FPG/Bo
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[Andy McMullin via Elecraft]

In the UK it was called “Technical Drawing” and was a compulsory pre-cursor to 
being allowed to take metalwork. You had to be able to convert between various 
projections and 3D representations before they let you loose on real metal in 
the workshops. Funnily enough, I seem to remember that woodwork and electronics 
were not included; but slide rules, “log tables”, and paper and pencil were the 
calculators of the age.

Regards
Andy, G8TQH

> 
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2021, 4:00 AM Joe K2UF  wrote:
> 
>> In 1955 we were the cool guys with a slide rule in a leather case hanging
>> from your belt and india ink stains on your hands.
>> 
>> 73  Joe K2UF
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
>> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 1:09 AM
>> To: Elecraft Reflector
>> Subject: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975
>> 
>> OK, I've really dated myself now.
>> 
>> Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints,
>> mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering,
>> projections
>> and elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real, but looked
>> like they should be. Did all the math by hand -- on a slide rule, if
>> necessary. Day-dreamed about what we might one day build.
>> 
>> 45 years later, we're using tools we couldn't have imagined. Modeling
>> circuits and objects with millions of parameters and vectors, realizing
>> them
>> in virtual space, manipulating them in real time. Testing finished products
>> before they're even assembled.
>> 
>> The transformation is mind boggling. Yet the best part now, as it was then,
>> is the occasional burst of creative energy that propels an idea forward.
>> The
>> feeling of pieces falling into place. Or forcing them into place out of
>> sheer necessity.
>> 
>> Most of the time, we think of our new tools and techniques as advances in
>> the state of the art. Things we can't live without. But those same defining
>> moments happened just as often in simpler times.
>> 
>> Case in point -- my first real project, a rendition of W7ZOI's
>> Micro-mountaineer. Carefully documenting it took several sheets of
>> 4-squares-per-inch grid paper, which may still be in my cellar, beneath a
>> lifetime of such drawings. With the schematic, I took a lot of pride in
>> making the circuits look well-organized, as if that would somehow improve
>> my
>> odds. On the PC board, I drew large traces and pads with the etch-resist
>> pen, as if that would somehow appease the electrons.
>> 
>> I etched the PCB, soldered two dozen parts, and connected a 12 V lantern
>> battery. Thanks to my paranoia about what would happen if I did it wrong,
>> I'd taken my time and done it right.
>> 
>> I was rewarded with a hiss of band noise and a few CW signals on 40 meters.
>> 
>> Here's to those moments, and to that timeless pursuit: turning abstractions
>> into reality.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 


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Re: [Elecraft] Looking for K2 in the UK

[Andy McMullin via Elecraft]

I have one that has been gathering dust in my garage since I got a KX3.

It’s a standard K2 with a few extras which include the 100W lid as well as the 
low power one with batteries. It has the serial port fitted too and I also have 
a half-finished ATU to go inside it. If you're interested, email me back.

Regards
Andy, G8TQH

> On 29 Jan 2021, at 13:05, Edward  wrote:
> 
> That's not the mountain, I know where that is.  I'm looking to buy a good 
> fully working K2 in the UK if anyone has any thoughts?
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Re: [Elecraft] Not moving your wrist sending CW ?

[Andy McMullin via Elecraft]

Yup. Exactly the same in the maritime world. All ships should be using the same 
prowords all around the world - it makes it easier to deal with maydays and 
cross-language communication, non-native speakers learn the prowords with 
translation to their own language. It goes alongside standard message formats 
to know what to expect next when you’re writing things down. For example the 
word “position” is followed by a lat and long. 

As I was told by our examiner for my civilian maritime licence: “repeating is 
what happens after you eat too many pickled onions, on the radio we say again”

Regards
Andy, G8TQH

> On 30 Mar 2020, at 07:14, Steve Witt  wrote:
> 
> On 03/29, Andy Durbin wrote:
>> "the prosign for "Please repeat,"or "I will repeat."
>> 
>> I was taught over 55 years ago that "repeat" was an artillery fire
>> control instruction that had no place in any communication except
>> for artillery fire control.  Surprising to me that IMI would be
>> defined that way.
>> 
>> In UK Signals, the phone phrases were "say again", "I say again",
>> and "say again words twice".
> 
> Also true in U.S. Army radiotelephone procedure, at least how we
> operated in the Signal Corps in the '70s and '80s when I was in. Never
> heard or was taught 'words twice'. One would realize (with experience)
> when key parts of the transmission should be said twice due to noise
> or other difficulty with the channel, usually because of being asked
> to 'say again' a few times. 
> 
> Asking for a retransmission:
>  'say again your last transmission'   
>  'say again all after'
>  'say again all before'
> 
> The response would be:
>  'I say again ...'
> 
> There is also 'I spell', when the word(s) weren't being received
> correctly. 
> 
> This was published in 'Allied Communications Pub 125: Communications
> Instructions -- Radiotelephone Procedures' (ACP 125), so these
> procedures should be somewhat standardized across NATO forces.
> 
> 
> 73,
> Steve K6ZX
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Wish List

[Andy McMullin via Elecraft]

Hi Both,

This is my issue too — the switching of cables and volume levels when going 
from mic to digital and back. It’s a pain and I’ve been considering the almost 
unheard of move of swapping the KX3 for another make which has a separate 
digital input.

HOWEVER, I have also been experimenting with feeding my audio into the computer 
rather than the rig and letting it “forward” the sound via the soundcards into 
the KX3. It’s not completely there yet, but it does stop all that swapping of 
cables and the computer can handle the levels. You might be able to get it to 
work.

I hope this helps,

Regards
Andy, G8TQH


> On 14 Dec 2019, at 05:14, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Jim,
> 
> Yes, switching between digital and SSB modes on the KX3 is troublesome from 
> the requirements imposed by the single Mic input jack and the single 
> headphone (SPKR) jack.
> 
> For convience in switching between Data modes and speech modes, you will have 
> to go with the K3 which has independent per mode selections.  The KX3 was not 
> designed to have that same capability.
> With the KX3, some form of external switching would be required to switch 
> from microphone input to your digital inputs.  Attenuators in the PC 
> soundcard to KX3 audio input might be requited so you do not have to contend 
> with the differences in audio levels.
> 
> Such switching was not a part of the KX3 design, and you may wnat to upgrade 
> to a K3 for your station instead of the KX3.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 12/12/2019 8:02 PM, Jim Jones wrote:
>> Okay, I'm a 2nd owner of a KX3 and I'm still reading and trying
>> To figure out all the commands and menu options. Yikes. Anyway,
>> I run a lot of digital, mainly on Mars circuits. What I'm finding
>> Is that I have to swap plugs for the mic and speaker each time I
>> Have to go to voice and then back again for digital. What would
>> Be nice to add to a wish list is to put a 6-pin mini-din connector
>> On the KX3. This would have a pin for Mic input, Ground, Key line,
>> And a line out audio level fixed level.
>> This would allow the end user to take his computer/KX3/Signalink
>> Out into the field and run digital fairly easy. This is just a
>> Wish for something in the future. By the way, great rig.
>> 73
>> Jim
>> Jim Jones - N9DIX
>> Waverly, TN
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Re: [Elecraft] Suggestion for the K4

[Andy McMullin via Elecraft]

You’re right Doug. Not everyone is in America, and not everyone has to follow 
American rules, regulations or licenses. There is a world outside the states.

Keep it simple …..

Regards
Andy, G8TQH


> On 1 Nov 2019, at 21:22, Doug Turnbull  wrote:
> 
> Gary,
>This might be fine for the USA market but might well be problematic and
> complicating for overseas markets.Maybe the US market is so large this
> does not matter but I doubt this.What is one man's improvement could be
> another's curse. The user interface needs to be kept straightforward and
> thus not overly complex.
> 
>Fred Cady, KE7X is not with us these days to give a second and perhaps
> more explanatory manual for all of us to reference.
> 
>  73 Doug EI2CN
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary Smith
> Sent: 01 November 2019 19:56
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Suggestion for the K4
> 
> Something I'd mentioned earlier that would 
> be good for the K3 will also apply on the 
> K4 as well: Operating permissions per 
> band. Perhaps an option for license class 
> operating permissions. Select to engage 
> the option for General and you will always 
> be 100% operating properly as a General. 
> An Extra uses the radio, select Extra and 
> forget it. 
> 
> For example, the band segments contain 
> different frequencies in the US for 
> different classes/modes of license. To 
> have a user selectable option in config to 
> prevent a General from Tx in an extra 
> segment would be an asset. 
> Likewise this would prevent an Extra from 
> inadvertently operating a mode outside 
> their permission.
> Another reason if you allow a Technician 
> operator to use your radio say at FD, they 
> might be unused to your radio and this 
> would prevent them from going outside 
> their permissions.
> 
> To be able to select per band where you 
> are allowed to transmit & the mode 
> permissions would allow anyone in the 
> world to configure their K4 properly to 
> meet their country's band plan.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Gary
> KA1J
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX4

[Andy McMullin via Elecraft]

And some of us operate from the passenger seat while the driver is doing all 
that complicated stuff!

Andy, G8TQH 

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> On 1 Jul 2019, at 15:48, Clay Autery  wrote:
> 
> Do NOT "Nanny State" the design of the radio  As a compromise, put in a 
> firmware option that turns the panadapter OFF while the vehicle is in motion 
> or something like that.  But even THEN, make it where the OWNER of the radio 
> may affirmatively take action to disable this nanny-state-like "feature".  
> SOME folks are trained for and perfectly capable of driving and operating 
> radios at the same time
> 
> 73,
> 
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> (318) 518-1389
> 
>> On 01-Jul-19 08:21, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> May I suggest that any Mobile (meaning mounted in a vehicle) transceiver NOT 
>> have a touchscreen or panadapter.
>> It can create additional distracted driver problems, and we have enough of 
>> that already with automotive touchscreens, navigation systems, and the like.
>> 
>> I for one do not operate mobile - my eyes and attention need to be on the 
>> road and not some device in the vehicle.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>> 
>>> On 7/1/2019 7:09 AM, Sergey Zimin wrote:
>>> I meant the 5-watt version of the k4 with a panadapter in a single package
>>> the size of which is like kx3...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> пн, 1 июл. 2019 г., 13:16 Nr4c :
>>> 
 Not mentioned so far.
 
 BTW: What is a “mobile” version?  They’ve so fa not done this for any
 other radio.
 
 
 
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 ...nr4c. bill
 
 
> On Jul 1, 2019, at 12:30 AM, Sergey Zimin  wrote:
> 
> It is interesting to know: will Elecraft issue a mobile version - KX4?
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Re: [Elecraft] Of words and such

[Andy McMullin via Elecraft]

You are so right. So many people seem to guess what words or phrases mean 
without bothering to determine what the rest of society agrees that they mean. 
Then they expect you to understand their personal interpretation. 

However, I’d add that it’s also useful to remember George Bernard Shaw and his 
“two countries divided by a common language”. Try suggesting a “fag break” to 
workers in the USA (as I did one coffee time in the 1970’s). 

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> On 26 Apr 2019, at 21:46, Kevin Cozens  wrote:
> 
>> On 2019-04-26 1:29 p.m., Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Some English words have become completely useless in practice, like
>> "semiannual" and "biannual," either of which can mean "twice a year" or
>> "every other year." In fact if you look up the definition for one, you
>> often see the other shown as a synonym.
> 
> The problem is due to people using words without understanding heir meaning. 
> There should be no confusion between semiannual and biannual. semi means 
> half, and bi is two.
> 
> If you want to really find out how messed up is the English language and the 
> definitions of words, start solving cryptic crossword puzzles. Some words 
> have three completely different sets of meanings.
> 
> -- 
> Cheers!
> 
> Kevin.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Of words and such

[Andy McMullin via Elecraft]

Beyond the pale - outside the safe area protected by the British in Ireland. 
Normally taken to mean immoral, dangerous and probably obscene. 

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> On 26 Apr 2019, at 18:29, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> "Beyond the pale" is an infrequently used idiomatic expression (at least in 
> the U.S.), probably misunderstood by many. I believe it is used in a negative 
> sense for the most part, but clearly that isn't what the writer meant. 
> 
> Some English words have become completely useless in practice, like 
> "semiannual" and "biannual," either of which can mean "twice a year" or 
> "every other year." In fact if you look up the definition for one, you often 
> see the other shown as a synonym.
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2019, at 10:21 AM, Frank Krozel  wrote:
>> 
>> I would be floored and would take a blank paper and a good pen.
>> 
>> De KG9H
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 26, 2019, at 12:08 PM, Andy Durbin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> " When an owner of the company calls to assist, that is beyond the pale. "
>>> 
>>> I wonder if that is what you really thought.
>>> 
>>> https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/beyond-the-pale.html
>>> 
>>> Maybe it means something completely different in other lands.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Andy, k3wy
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed

[Andy McMullin via Elecraft]

Can I just add that at the stage that says reboot, you should really shut down 
the machine, wait a bit, then
Restart. Sometimes a USB port is not physically but just logically reset by a 
reboot. 

I hope this helps

Regards
Andy, G8TQH

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> On 14 Apr 2019, at 18:17, Tom  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Sometimes driver software can be a pain...
> Try this.
> 1) Open the device manager and select the comport by right clicking on it.
> 2) Check the box to delete the driver software and uninstall.
> 3) Unplug the USB cable.
> 4) Reboot
> 5) Next run the FTDI driver installation.  When prompted or when complete, 
> plug the USB cable back in.
> Sometimes, windows will keep reinstalling the same driver if the files have 
> not been deleted.
> 73 Tom
> va2fsq.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
> Behalf Of HB
> Sent: April 14, 2019 12:47 PM
> To: donw...@embarqmail.com; 'Dick Dievendorff' 
> Cc: 'Elecraft list' 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed
> 
> I have done all of those things and no change.  As I said every other piece 
> of software that needs the KXUSB grabs it and uses it fine – just not the 
> utility software.
> 
> There is something to the driver installation – it shows as incomplete, but 
> reinstalling the FTDI drivers from the FTDI website still does not fix the 
> problem.  There is still an event message saying that the installation did 
> not complete.
> 
> I realizer this is not an Elecraft issue, I’m just looking for help.
> 
> Hank
> K4HYJ
> 
> From: Don Wilhelm
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 11:09 AM
> To: h...@optilink.us; 'Dick Dievendorff'
> Cc: 'Elecraft list'
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed
> 
> Hank,
> 
> Installing KX3 Utility will do nothing for changing what your computer does 
> about COM Ports vs USB port assignment.  It is now apparent that your 
> computer is not properly recognizing the FTDI USB to Serial adapter.
> 
> Download and install the FTDI drivers from the FTDI website.
> What you are trying to deal with is an FTDI USB to Serial adapter.  Just 
> because the KXUSB cable is sold by Elecraft does not change that fact - the 
> FTDI chipset is not an Elecraft device, but an FTDI device even though it is 
> included in the KXUSB.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 4/14/2019 10:06 AM, h...@optilink.us wrote:
>> Reinstalling the KX3 utility software from the Elecraft site did nothing.
>> 
>> How can I check the registry values on the PC to know if that is the cause?
>> 
>> Hank
>> K4HYJ
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dick Dievendorff 
>> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 12:47 AM
>> To: donw...@embarqmail.com
>> Cc: HB ; Elecraft list 
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility problem: serial port is closed
>> 
>> The kx3 gets its inventory of com ports from registry values populated by 
>> complete device driver installation.
>> 
>> Dick, K6KR
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

[Andy McMullin via Elecraft]

I’m sorry Keith but is there any evidence to support that assertion. That a 64 
bit version will be available before the next MacOS revision is released? 

I know it’s a nice thing to think. But have the developers said that’s what’s 
happening? They seem to be completely missing from this thread. 

I’m sure there’s something in the works but I see nothing from the developers 
themselves to say so and the next version of MacOS seems to be only weeks away. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Mar 2019, at 20:22, Keith Onishi  wrote:
> 
> K3 Utility is 64 bit version but other Elecraft utilities are 32 bit version.
> So, I guess the 32 bit versions will be migrated to 64 bit version later but 
> before the future MacOS is released.
> 
> 73 de JH3SIF, Keith
> 
>> 2019/03/29 0:17、Don Wilhelm のメール:
>> 
>> My understanding is that a 64 bit version of the Mac and Linux Utilities is 
>> "in the making".
>> But for now, you will have to put up with the messages from Apple that the 
>> current Utility will not work on the next OS release.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>> 
>>> On 3/27/2019 7:15 PM, Jack Brindle via Elecraft wrote:
>>> Guys;
>>> Realize that Mac versions of the utilities are important to us “insiders” 
>>> also. This is something that will be addressed in due time.
>>> 73!
>>> Jack, W6FB
 On Mar 27, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Grant Youngman  wrote:
 
 It’s kind of the way things go.  I’d like to be able to run some 8-bit 
 Z-80 apps I wrote in the 1970’s (in FORTH) without pulling my old Digital 
 Group system out of the attic,  but I can’t.
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