Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
Dave, Et. Al. On the ergonomics front, as a former TS850 user for years, I disagree. I find the learning curve from my mindless habitual use of my TS850 and TS570 almost painless. The basic controls function in very similar ways. This commonality with Kenwood ergonomics was one of the reasons I selected the K3 over competitive Icom, TenTec and Yaesu products (as Kenwood no longer makes a real, contest quality transceiver... Now If I could have bought a brand new TS950SDX...) Regarding the following: One is the simple - from the user's perspective, I appreciate not so simple for the firmware developer - matter of disabling equalization when DATA mode is used. I've been browsing online manuals of radios from Yaesu, Kenwood and Icom and they all do that. Until the K3 also does, those of us who use data modes a lot will continue to have to leave equalization flat unless we want to fiddle about setting / unsetting it whenever we change modes. While I agree it would be nice to manage that issue in the radio, the solution lies in K3-EZ. Simply store your Digimode TX/RX Equalization setups in a memory called "Digimode", your CW setups in a memory called "CW", your SSB setups in a memory called "SSB"... You get the picture! Recall them as you need them. It takes about 5 seconds to do. Of course you need a computer... But I know you already have one! Hey, at least the fastening hardware is all the same and not a mixture of SAE, Whitworth and Metric like on my former Triumph Spitfire... I always knew where I parked it by the pool of transaxle fluid :) -lu-W4LT K3 S# 3192 Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote: > > >> The band switching, VFO management, mode switching and many >> aspects of its front panel design needs a rework. Most of the >> contest operators that I know seem to own a FT2000, they will >> all acknowledge that its no K3, however they all feel the >> same as I do about the K3 and its ergonomics. > > Having used the FT-1000D, Mark V, and FT-2000 series of radios > for nearly 20 years before moving the K3, the "front panel > design" and "ergonomics" issues are completely bogus. There > are other transceivers with user interfaces very similar to > the K3 - including some from Yaesu - and, while different than > the FT-990/1000/2000/9000 the K3 User interface is no less usable. > > Anyone who makes the size/user interface argument is simply > making an excuse for not learning a new user interface based > prejudice. Any contester or DXer who uses one of the popular > contest or day to day logging packages with "point and shoot" > features is insulated from the transceiver's user interface > to such an extent that the differences among user interfaces > is largely irrelevant anyway. > > 73, > >... Joe, W4TV > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of juergen piezo >> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:42 AM >> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do >> >> >> K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do? >> >> I still dont own a K3. I just cant bring myself to buy the >> K3 because >> of its front panel layout and its operation. Although I would >> very much like its receiver performance. >> >> I have used one at a contest station and all that I can >> say is that I would not buy one until a new front panel layout is >> designed. >> >> The band switching, VFO management, mode switching and many >> aspects of its front panel design needs a rework. Most of the >> contest operators that I know seem to own a FT2000, they will >> all acknowledge that its no K3, however they all feel the >> same as I do about the K3 and its ergonomics. Most of us are >> just not portable operators, so dont need small size 12 volt radios. >> >> There are many good radios that would be a good front panel >> design model for the K3a. The FT950, FT920, Icom 737series, >> TS850 etc all have a very workable ergonomic front panel >> layouts that are easy to use. The FT950 is so well layed out >> and very attractive and it would be a good one to copy for a >> new K3 front panel. >> >> If the K3 is so modular, why would it be so hard not to >> offer a bigger box with a new front panel? There are many off >> the shelf 19 inch rack >> boxes that could be used with a new front panel styling. >> >> I would suggest that a new K3 panel with built in P3, power >> supply and 200 watt PA stage would be a big hit. Everyone >> seems to be so over the moon with the K3's small size, I must >> be a freak with alien genes to not like the radios front >> panel layout and operational ergonomics. >> >> The firmware feature list or lack of progress I can live >> with. However a awkward panel layout and poor ergomics thats >> carved in rock I cant really live with. When I used the K3 >> all that I ever used was the band s
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware preview: Much-improved receive AF bass response
Wayne: Yay! And while I would LOVE to be involved in the Beta, you have my radio since last Thursday :( I look forward to its return with new, tight encoders and more bass response. Regards Lu Romero - W4LT K3 3192 wayne burdick wrote: > > The next K3 beta firmware release will include dramatically better > bass response in receive mode (50-200 Hz). The result is fuller, > richer audio, which many of you have asked for. > > Lyle (KK7P) and I are completing the full beta test suite, and hope to > do the release early next week. But we could also use a couple of > volunteers--who really like low bass--to try the field-test release. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-firmware-preview-Much-improved-receive-AF-bass-response-tp3667622p3675697.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 NR
Lyle: Just played with the NR in both SSB and CW, on 80 and 40. First, I can hear the change of the filters now without turning things on and off, as you mentioned it would work. The frequency response is decidedly less "flat" (less bassy) than the sound of 3.25. For CW, the 3 and 4 settings are much more efficient, not so in SSB, where the 1 and 2 settings are much cleaner sounding and better copy. I found that with no antenna and with the RF gain turned to 12 o'clock... Turn on the NR and all receiver white noise mutes and slowly ramps up. That's a recursive effect, I guess. I prefer the sound of the 3.25 version for ssb, its cleaner and somewhat less bright (flatter in response). I had to tweak the RX EQ to add some bass in the 3.27 version or it sounds "harsh" in my headsets (I dont use speakers hardly ever, btw). Inteligibility is marginally better with 3.27 on ssb and quite a bit better on CW, so you have drifted a bit to the CW side of the equation, but with a decent compromise for SSB. No more boingy peakyness in any mode, which is good, and the level while it still drops a bit, is better behaved. Can I assume from some comments I have read here that the NR process is pre EQ and AGC? How exactly do the processes "stack" in the radio architecture? If NR is at the top of the stack, a decent "fix" might be to somehow gang these three processes using presets so that they can be set up ahead of time and recalled from a memory button by the user. As an old brodcaster, we used to preset things in Switchers (vision mixers to UK readers) using a process called E-MEM... Which could recall preset parameters in "salvos" to preset multiple settings. This might work here. This would be handy in a contest environment where a minimum of tweaking and rapid adaptation to changing conditions is needed... You could play outside of a contest and create the settings then in the heat of battle, recall them with a single button push from a "canned" setup. It wouldnt be perfect for any environment, but it might mean the difference between working a mult and not working a mult. And multipliers, after all, are :) As you said, every receiving environment is different, but some generalizations can be made and being able to recall the multiple settings would be a definite plus feature of the radio. Thanks for letting us test these iterations. Lu Romero - W4LT K3 # 3192 Lyle Johnson wrote: > >> ...For now I'll treat the parameter as an opaque >> series of magic numbers. > > The way the new beta NR works is: > > Fx-y > > x selects the length of the filter. > > F1 = 121 taps, F2 = 91 taps, F3 = 61 taps, F4 = 31 taps > > (The Beta 3.25 release used FIR filters of 61 taps.) > > y selects values of Beta (gain), decay, and delay (how long the NR > algorithm waits to process a signal) > > (The Beta 3.5 release used the "x" parameter for these selections) > > 73, > > Lyle KK7P > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-NR-tp3515659p3520809.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Channel Hopping
Yes, this is exactly the point. Moving the Multi/CH knob on my TS570 resets the vfo to 5kHz steps from wherever I was previously. That is handy for quick QSY. Brett describes how I use the feature exactly (nice to know Im not unique!) -lu-w4lt- Wes Stewart wrote: > > > > --- On Fri, 8/21/09, Brett Howard wrote: > > From: Brett Howard > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Channel Hopping > To: lrom...@ij.net > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 7:41 PM > > You know you can use the RIT knob as a fast band move knob with a simple > menu setting so that it works like the M.CH knob does on the Kenwoods. > > Not quite. I use the RIT knob set to 5 KHz steps all of the time, but it > steps 5 KHz from where it's currently setting, and if that isn't a 5KHz > multiple then it isn't the same as the Kenwood. > > Let's face it, on many bands these days we are almost channelized. The DX > calls on 14.195 not 14.196789. With my Kenwood, if I'm listening on > 14.003 and decide to check 14.195 I just turn the VFO CH knob and easily > land on freq. BTW, the radio knows to change modes from CW to USB at > 14.150. And if I think I may want to return to the CW freq, before moving > I hit Quick Memory and it's saved and I can return to it with one button > push. > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Channel-Hopping-tp3493248p3494144.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
